Thread 33487812

>spooning with girl
>penis gets erect
>she pushes her butt up against my erect penis
>start groping her tits and ass
>ask her, "want to fuck?"
>she says, "EW WHAT THE FUCK?!"
>she moves away from me on the bed and goes to sleep
O-oh :(
What did I do wrong? I thought I was supposed to ask for consent?...
Am I autistic or something? What the hell is wrong with me. Is this one of those social things that I'm supposed to inexplicably and inherently know the answer to?
I'm just tryna get my pp wet

>>33487812 (OP)
It's over.

>>33487812 (OP)
As a femanon I think that maybe you were too straightforward, u know? But it's just my guess. "But I'm autistic" ok but try not to be so straightforward, maybe she wasn't ready yet idk

>>33487812 (OP)
Too much too quick. Women want to play or cuddle, next time just let her wiggle into you for a while and start touching her more. If she settles she just wanted a little contact, if she moves more or leans into your hands do more.

>>33487812 (OP)
You killed the moment. You were supposed to just roll with it.
It happens. Now you know.
You may or may not have blown this one. There'll be other girls.

So what should have been done in this situation? Maybe thrust against her with your penis a bit? Undress her? I’m confused

>>33487843
>>33487837
>>33487833
>>33487823
Man, fuck this, I wish prostitution was legal, I can't handle these stupid mind games
Why can't it be as simple as asking for consent and then intercourse?
How am I supposed to know if she's not going to change her mind afterwards and accuse me of rape if I don't get her verbal or written consent?
At least with verbal consent, I'll know in my heart that I didn't do a rape even if she changes her mind later about it
I can't wait for robowAIfus, fuck bioholes and their bullshit

>>33487859
yes you dumbass, grope her more, slide your hand beneath her shirt, pinch her nipples, go through her thighs, carress her pussy, kiss and kiss and then start undressing her, eat her out a little and then just do the deed
if at any point she doesn't want to she'll say stop but she's pressing into your erect boner so it's not possible to detect where she wants it to stop

>>33487860
life is difficult, don't be a manchild

>>33487812 (OP)
You killed the mood by cussing. Don't ask girls to “fuck”, it makes you sound like you think she's a cheap whore.

>>33487812 (OP)
idk, but I was in a similar situation where I was spooning with a girl in bed, and I started to slide her pajama bottoms off and she was like, "what the fuck are you doing???", and I was like, "o-oh, my bad" and just rolled over and went to sleep
>>33487860
>I can't wait for robowAIfus, fuck bioholes and their bullshit
same

>>33487860
>I can't wait for robowAIfus, fuck bioholes and their bullshit
Spoiled

>>33487860
The grinding was the consent.
You had already grabbed her "without consent".

The odds of her turning that against you are incredibly low, and these cases are way harder to prove than internet horror stories have you believe.

99.9% chance you were fine just going as you were. Not to mention you just picked the wrong line "wanna fuck?" Is panzy ass. "I wanna fuck you", she'd have definitely told you what she wanted at that moment, and it doesnt sound like a puppy dog asking for a bone.

>I cant wait for robowaifus
Bro I get it though, me too.

>>33487812 (OP)
You're supposed to ask
>Can I kiss you?
Or
>Do you want to be closer?
Something none aggressive unless the girl you're with is into that. Consent isn't just one and done seal of approval, you need to communicate and make sure both of you are alright with what's happening.

>>33487888
>>Can I kiss you?
That's also super cringe. You have to just do it and then she can say no if she doesn't want it. The whole idea of asking for consent is pushed by people who never had sex.

>>33487893
>You have to just do it
Not a good look anon

>>33487898
What you're saying is virtue signalling and has no relation to how people interact in real life.

>>33487903
Not people, that's how you act.

>>33487910
Ask any male who has sex.

>>33487812 (OP)
The butt push is the universal signal for lets fuck so I don't think you really did anything too bad OP, maybe she just was nervous about it or didn't want to commit its all good

>>33487915
The next morning, she asked me how I slept and I said, "okay, how did you sleep?", and she said, "I slept great! But I had this awful dream that you asked me 'want to fuck?'". And I was like, "oh..." And the topic kinda just changed to something irrelevant or whatever, I don't remember

>>33487910
Not him, but 150% the vast grand majority of people are operating on non verbal consent. Women speak up and say no if they dont want to, and the cases you hear on the internet of women just accusing someone of SA because they didnt technically say yes even though its clear they wanted to are boogeyman tales. Rare occurrences that dont reflect real life.

A woman grinding her ass on your dick is "lets fuck". If she changes her mind she'll tell you. And there are ways to "ask consent" that isnt "wanna fuck?"

>>33487940

That was a good sign ya mook. She wants to talk about it. She might have even been giving you another shot. A "if i grind my ass on you in a minute dont say that again" if you will. You should have yes anded her and said "i would NEVER" or something to be playful.

>>33487941
Asking for consent verbally dries the pussy up instantly every time. Women do not like it at all.
Consent is to gradually progressing from touching to kissing to sex without her saying no.
They teach verbal consent in school because it sounds good on paper, not because it's real.

>>33487950
Op is too retarded and probably has spent too much time consuming /pol/ slop while having almost none social interactions. Many such cases. Guess what? Leave your room and stop consuming slop.

>>33487980
Youre saying the same thing I am. Not sure the point of your post.

>>33488027
You have it backwards, I browse this site and never leave my room as a result of these bullshit social interactions

>>33487898
i get that it's cringe to say stuff instead of just assuming it but i've had bad experiences before so i just play safe and say i am going to kiss you and move slowly
it's cringe but not turn-off tier cringe

>>33487860
You're an idiot. All you had to do was keep going, instead you decided to say "HEY WANNA FUCK" like a retard. Enjoy cockblocking yourself due to autism, I guess.

>>33487903
NTA but you obviously has very little if any real life experience hooking up with women.
"Can I kiss you?" You sound like a fucking faggot, use your actions, not your words.

>>33488038
I think he was replying to agree with you

>>33488338
How in the hell was I supposed to know that consent is a turn off for women? I've never in my life heard that you're not supposed to ask for consent to fuck a woman

>>33488369
She sounds shallow... shrug it off!!! Find another girl that's less shallow

>>33487812 (OP)
What seemed a sexual invitation to you was cuddling-for-its-own-sake to her. Your trying to move past that stage seemed like a rejection of what she was valuing

>>33487882
>The grinding was the consent
good luck with that in court bro

>>33488772
>start groping her tits and ass
>she didn’t say anything

>>33487893
idk man, every time ive asked they smile before they indulge me, soooo

>>33487812 (OP)
>What did I do wrong?
She wasn't in the mood for sex. Are you expecting her to say yes when she doesn't want to? That kind of negates the whole consent thing, don't you think?

It's *possible* she might have been up for sex if you had taken things a bit slower and worked up to it more gradually. It is also possible that she just didn't want to do anything other than make out; that happens. Some women think they need to be be married before they have sex; maybe she was one of them.

>>33488054
Then you're a weak bitch

>>33487812 (OP)
My last girlfriend used to giggle and say "Yes sweetie" when I asked her if she wanted to fuck. Why did I dump her? Every day the negatives seem less and the good moments more and more golden.

>>33487980
It CAN be a bad thing, but only if it feels like a question to her. If it feels like an order or a strong suggestion it's not cringe to her. You want to sound like Chad demanding, not Beta asking.

>>33489269
I don't think it makes me a weak bitch for realizing a game is rigged and choosing not to play it. I think it takes a lot of strength to resist this fallen world and all of its temptations and to not follow the herd, and to go against the grain.
Your adversary the devil prowleth about like a roaring lion seeking whom he may devour. Women, money, status, these things are just vehicles for the devil to manipulate you and bring you down. Real strength comes from within you, not from putting up with bullshit social interactions so that you might get laid
If God wants me to find companionship and sex, then he'll make it happen for me. I'm not going to let anything in this world try to control me, especially not women's petty social bullshit.
The fact that you think it's some kind of epic ownage to say I'm weak for choosing not to be controlled by mundane bullshit is a reflection of your values in your life and how you think people should act, and it doesn't look good for you. You should really rethink your values and life. Sit down, meditate, think about what's really important to you. Because if you put even a modicum of thought into it, you'd realize that jumping through hoops to appease bioholes so that they might fuck you, is actually a pathetically weak thing to be doing with your God given life.

>>33487812 (OP)
your mom sounds like a tease

>>33487812 (OP)
You don't go from 0 to hundred like that, there's this thing called foreplay which you don't see in porn.

You should've been groping her tits and ass and kissing her neck and teasing her pussy and going every inch of her body several times over for as long as needed until SHE is the one asking for some dick, begging for it.

Girls absolutely hate it when dudes just poke them with their boner and are just like "I have initiated the sex protocols, let us commence the sex now."

>>33489327
>ppl hurt my feefees so I won't leave my room
Yes, you're a weak bitch

>>33489339
What? So I'm supposed to go out and socialize with people and jump through all their social hoops? For what reason? If it's for pussy, I could just go find a prostitute. You're arguing that I should go and do something that makes no sense for the sake of simply suffering
Why put myself in a bad position knowing that I'm not going to get anything out of it?

>>33487860
>Why can't it be as simple as asking for consent and then intercourse?
Zoomers unironically don't know about consent? For real?

You think you can just walk up to a girl and be like DO YOU CONSENT TO SEX, YES/NO and then her pussy is magically wet?

>>33489327
>unironically being the target audience for evangelion
Yes, human interaction and the world can be cruel and painful. Often they are. But such is life, you just have to try your best.

>>33489363
do you really think socializing is only about reproduction? I pity you, but you're so shallow idk dude touch grass. God would never want his creations to be /pol/ creatures who call women "bioholes", don't leave their room, don't socialize and blame people for their own failures. Life is about getting over the difficulty and not becoming a shut in. Becoming a meet shut in and blaming other ppl is actually the easiest way out of life. Good luck with the robotAIwaifu thing.

>>33489322
>You want to sound like Chad demanding
that's still not true

you want to sound like Chad offering, because he's got other things he could do, doesn't know when another opportunity like this might even come up for her, etc.

>>33489619
Wrong. She should feel like you want her despite what she says. You should always push a little bit.

>>33489582
>do you really think socializing is only about reproduction?
Yeah, usually. If not about reproduction, then it's about some other temporary worldly thing like status, money, or ego. Everyone has some ulterior selfish motive for socializing, and if you don't see that then you're going to be a victim to some sociopath who will exploit your ignorance

>>33489680
>You should always push a little bit.
Prisons are full of people like you.

>>33487812 (OP)
Her reaction was extreme, a normal girl wouldn't spaz out like that, she would just say no.

Chances are she has a lot of hangups about sex. Many women do, but her case sounds severe.

The retarded thing about women is, most of them have a big schism between conscious thoughts and subconscious desires. Most likely what happened here was, her body and subconscious were horny, but when you said it out loud, it became too real, and the thought of actually admitting she wanted to fuck you was too much, she denied it to herself and got mad at you for forcing her to do that.

So, as idiotic as all this is, it's all too common for women, this is how their minds work. Asking for consent is an enormous meme feminists came up with. I have never verbally asked a woman if she wanted to fuck. What you do is just work your hands all over her body, and keep going further to see what she lets you do. If she stops you at any point then you respect that. That's pretty much it. Asking if she wants to have sex is a little bit autistic yeah. But forgive yourself, you didn't really do anything wrong. Better luck next time.

>>33487837
bro i once hooked up with a girl and she literally jumped me and we kissed for like 20 seconds before she pulled my dick out . she was just too horny

>>33487860
it is legal here

>>33487812 (OP)
>ask her, "want to fuck?"
this is where you fucked up, you were supposed to keep easing it and just fuck her confidently. gave her the ick by asking.

>>33489908
Nah, I'm just a working adult who has responsibilities. Someone who stays 24/7 inside a room on 4chan knows shit, you're shallow and definitely not a Christian.

>>33487812 (OP)
>I thought I was supposed to ask for consent?
You missed multiple steps of flirting, supposed to ask her to help remove her shirt because she's laying on it, then ask to help remove her bra, then pants, then underwear, move her hand in the direction of your dick see if she grabs right at it like an aircraft homing missile, then ask if you need to wear a condom, etc. Don't forget that old classic of giving her a nice sensual back rub, slowly working your way to massaging the fun parts, she's supposed to play with your dick and balls for awhile, etc. Expect 5, 10 minutes of slowly softly playing with each tit, for example, assuming she likes boob play. Not the worst idea if she's multi-orgasmic, to get her off before even trying to stick it in. I assume you were already kissing, kissing under her ear on her neck by her jaw, kissing each nipple, before even starting your story of woe, etc.
You missed, like 15, maybe 20 steps of slow burn back and forth foreplay to get her fired up.
Getting a guy ready is pretty simple and fast and easy, as per your story all it took was "spoon with girl" and you're ready to go, but girls take like an hour of making out and slowly progressing before you can tell her to "spread em" or whatever romance you attempted LOL..

>>33490498
It's so obvious that you don't know anything that you have to resort to trying to make me look bad by assuming I don't work and I'm not a christian
You're incredibly ignorant and naive, just stop talking before you make yourself look even worse

AYYY BBYGURL U WAN SUM FUCK????

>>33490498
>>33489582
ive been thinking this topic and i think youre right, i think socializing can be a good thing and like not everyone is a sociopath, it's not good to isolate

>>33493502
Nice, fren. I wish you good luck, life outside is not easy but we all have our demons to fight.

Its so much easier to pertend that you're someone else if you don't talk

>>33487812 (OP)
Maybe your breath was really bad lol

You don't have to pretend to be someone else, you just have to find yourself.

>>33487812 (OP)
>She wanted you to fondle and kiss her until she was sopping before escalating, but you went in straight for the kill (killed the build up)
>She actually did just want to cuddle for a while
>She had a burst of mental clarity after being straight-up asked for sex like she is some common ho, felt like a slut (she probably is), and felt ashamed/insulted
Or
>After scooting closer she felt your penis and judged it as small, hoping after some fondling with no engagement from her side you would give up

Not to self, just don't ask for consent. Just pretend I'm raping every single time, and hope for the best.

>>33487812 (OP)
Next time enjoy heating the girl and shut up.
If you do the thing right she will take your dick by herself.
Get good.

>>33487812 (OP)
you asked for consent retard. women all want to be raped.

>>33487812 (OP)
Years ago I was talking to an older married guy and he said one thing you will learn is that women can turn on a dime when it comes to anything sexual. He said one night you can spoon with her, grab a boob and she'll enjoy it. The next night you do the same thing and it's "CAN'T YOU KEEP YOUR HANDS TO YOURSELF?"

A few weeks ago I was laying in bed with my wife and she cuddled against my back, slid her hand under my t-shirt and rubbed my chest. I started getting hard and after about five minutes I took her hand, slid it into my shorts and wrapped it around my cock. She started stroking me and a few minutes later I blew my load. Before I could say anything she got up.

I got up a few minutes later, walked out to the kitchen and said "thanks for this morning" and she exploded. "THAT WAS DISGUSTING!" and sulked for the rest of the day.

You will never figure them out.

>>33487860
Majority of women don't like blunt and rude language like "want to fuck?". Some do, but they're a minority They want their horniness to be painted in more romantic and softened colors. Normally you don't have to say anything. Just keep going. And if you have to just say something like "That feels sooo good!" whispered in her ear. Get it?

>>33487812 (OP)
>What did I do wrong?

You put her on the spot by asking her directly.
Remember that girls are very well aware that any guy they get close to could always also overpower them and just take what he wants. For this reason they don't like verbally guaranteeing sex if they don't know you yet as this makes them feel they can't back out of it if they do have a change of heart.

Its the same reason why girls will give you the
>b-but no sex tonight tee-hee
before they come to your place with the clear intent to have sex there.

>>33487888
>>Can I kiss you?
IDK, CaN YOu?

>>33487898
There is a thing called non-verbal communication. This is lost to autists of course who think every step has to be spelled out like some sort of Chinese AC instruction manual. You make eye contact, you move in closer, you lay your hand on the side of her head etc. Her moving towards you, NOT AWAY gives you non-verbal cues of consent. This doesn't have to be said.

>>33487812 (OP)
Women aren't direct. You having asked her to have sex as a question leads to a direct answer that she doesn't want to say because it makes them look slutty.

Should've just kept going with the foreplay.

>pushes butt against guy's dick
>gets offended when he ASKS to have sex
I would have understood if OP just took her pants off and went to town, but he asked before going to work. Further reading ITT I have concluded that foids are confusing and retarded.

>>33500666
>I would have understood if OP just took her pants off and went to town

Other way round, dingus. One thing is "it just happened" territory, asking her makes her feel trated like a street hooker. I also think shes probably quite young and still thinks she needs to avoid being "slutty" and openly agreeing to sex at any cost. Its not that hard to understand.

>>33500666
>Further reading ITT I have concluded that foids are confusing and retarded.
if you can't figure out that interrupting escalating intimacy to ask questions is not the move you are in fact confused and retarded

you've spent so much time obsessing over the 0.0002% of sjws on the Internet that demand affirmation every single time that you've totally missed the overwhelming preference of women

>>33500825
>you've totally missed the overwhelming preference of women
And that preference is??