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Anonymous No.33488573 >>33488595 >>33488597 >>33488630 >>33488707 >>33488709 >>33488729 >>33490265
Lost purpose
So i am just gonna beginnt. A few weeks ago i did something that caused me a lot of anxiety, i started overthing everything to unhealthy levels. My brain is fucking Fried right now. ChatGPT says my brain wilm recover with time but thats not what i came here for. Just thought i mentioned it.
All my life i saw myself as a warrior of good fighting for what is right and had a rgibg hatred for evil, evil people.
But because of the overthinking i came to the conclusion that maybe evil doesnt exist or free will dont exist. Both are equally terrifiying. I will explain myself, imagine someone has to choose between good and evil, obviesly they choose good. Now imagine the bad option gives them a benefit. They might choose evil. Does this make them evil. Yes one might say but what made them choose. This means everyone would have been born evil or good and it was no ones choice wich means there was no free will to beginn with.
There must be some higher form of conciousnes wich we do not unverstand in wich we choose for whatever reason good or evil.
I am writing this out of a selfish reason myself. If no one choose ro be good or evil, we have no free will wich is not a rwality i ever beliefed we live in nor wanna live in. On the other hand, if good and evil dont exist and are just societal constructs, what am i even fighting for. And hiw do i justiyfy the hatred against some people i have if i now know that they did nothing wrong in terms of morality.
Anonymous No.33488590 >>33488597
Sorry for the mistakes like i said my brain is fried.
Anonymous No.33488595
>>33488573 (OP)
>A few weeks ago i did something that caused me a lot of anxiety

what did you do?
Anonymous No.33488597 >>33488613
>>33488590
>>33488573 (OP)
What advice do you want
Anonymous No.33488613 >>33488647
>>33488597
I need to know if free will really exist and how good and evil work, i know its impossible to answer but i need to share it.
Anonymous No.33488630 >>33488657
>>33488573 (OP)
Unless you're religious, it's not really possible to think that "good" and "evil" are universal forces. This doesn't mean that people can't do great or horrible things and be judged by other people accordingly.

>And hiw do i justiyfy the hatred against some people i have if i now know that they did nothing wrong in terms of morality.
Well, we have no idea if they did anything wrong. What did they do? Maybe we can give an objective view on whether you or they are in the wrong, which is more useful than fretting about whether they're "evil" or not.
Anonymous No.33488647
>>33488613
That's not a question of advice
Anonymous No.33488657 >>33488672
>>33488630
Imagine someone who enjoys suffering of other people. Thats prime evil. But what made them choose this. If nothing atvall that would mean there is no free will. And if they did choose this for whatever reason, whats the thougtprocess here. If its just some trauma for example then it has nothing to fo with good or evil. They dont exist. If if there is no enemy for me to fight for my anger, the fire inside of me its all for nothing for an Illusion.
Anonymous No.33488672
>>33488657
>f if there is no enemy for me to fight for my anger, the fire inside of me its all for nothing for an Illusion.
I think you can hate people who do bad things and who enjoy the suffering of others, if both of those things are true. Them being objectively or metaphysically "evil" has nothing to do with it. Almost every serial killer had a horrible upbringing that shaped who they were, but the harm they caused by brutally killing dozens of people outweighs, in most people's minds, the harm they were caused as children, so everyone hates them just fine. You can even call them "evil," as long as you recognize that's a useful descriptive label, not a magic truth.

That all being said, dedicating your entire life to fighting "enemies" doesn't sound all that useful or healthy, even if your enemies are genuinely bad people. You might be best-served by calming down and using your newfound insights to find a new direction. But that's just what I think.
Anonymous No.33488707 >>33488735
>>33488573 (OP)
>maybe evil doesn't exist
Evil does exist. You watch the news, and you see crime and atrocities everywhere.

>free will dont exist
Debatable. I would like to quote pic related.
Does God let evil roam free? Yes, he does, and it is evident in the Bible. You can get a summary for the book of Job. But the tldr is that there was a good, honest man named Job who worshipped God. Satan convinced God to punish Job, and God, who was supposedly an all-knowing and omnipotent being, agreed. God then punishes job by killing his family and taking his riches. Job then asks God why he punished him.
Here's the kicker, should God tell the man why he punished him or ask for forgiveness? No, he didnt explain. Instead, God brags about his omnipotence and that Job's understanding was miniscule compared to him. You are then meant to think that this God is merciful.

I still believe in a God though. Just a cruel one. I also like this video essay about God. Apologies if the link is fucked up since I am on mobile.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=-Z3kC_V2PNU&si=EpqVHFsGAhuHCZ_a
Anonymous No.33488709
>>33488573 (OP)
You are not "overthinking" you are just discovering morality doesn't exist. We do not have free will it just feels like we do.
Anonymous No.33488729
>>33488573 (OP)
>imagine someone has to choose between good and evil, obviesly they choose good
According to research, people define good and evil based on their decisions. Not the other way around.
Anonymous No.33488735 >>33488973
>>33488707
This sort of reaality condems me to fight against evil people who didnt choose to be evil. Its not really theyr fault. That would be an unstaysfying battle.
I also would be in constant doubt of my own thoughts.
Though i would know my fight is for the greater good me just beeing a robot made of flesh, is not somethkng i want nor understand.
Anonymous No.33488973
>>33488735
You speak of evil acts committed by those who have no other choice but to lash out. I understand you, though I cannot fully debate with you on that since I am not the best man for philosophical debates but i will share what i learned from others.
I once met an atheist anon who i discussed misantrophy with. He said that we only have each other. I think he must mean that there is so much evil in this world and God may not be real, and so we only have each other to rely on and we must be kind to those who deserve it.

I know of a quote from a movie and it is from Hitman:2007 which is based on the famous hitman video games.
The story goes like this:
Agent 47 confronts the inspector and he asks the man "How does a good man decide when to kill?"
Inspector answers, "If i think that a man wants to do me or my family harm then I will do everything i can to stop him, but beyond that.. it's a crap shit."

Here is the snippet:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=gx9zBAu5NhQ&si=gol01DPmdcWxQWDr

I try to keep that same view of both the movie and the atheist anon. When it comes to those in my proximity, like relatives and friends, i try to be helpful and friendly to those around me. If i ever hear news about someone getting killed or raped erhherm like in Brit*in, then i just think that "i cannot help in any of that since i am from a different country." I just try to help those i can. I mean you can go online and help the bri'ish and spread the word that their country is under attack or donate to any charities there but thats beside my point.

Sometimes i just wish to end my life whenever i hear a horrible news but i am still here.

Not saying that i am a good man, i'm just trying my best. Help those you care for but take care not to let that light inside you get snuffed out by evil. Just try your best anon
Anonymous No.33490265
>>33488573 (OP)
I wont' read wall-of-text autobiographies. Get to the point next time.