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Previously on /plant/ >>4987681

So for overwintering succulents, you just don't water them at all and give them shorter days? Should I still be blasting them with their grow light, just for less time?

>>4998975
You need to keep them cool as well, below 15C, or even below 10C if they can tolerate it, not all species can.
Otherwise they will keep growing and get all etiolated and keep drinking up their water.
As for growlights I've never used them so will leave that for other Anons to advise.

>>4998980
>Put them outside, they get stolen
>Keep them inside, they're really cold but not actually properly cold enough because the lich that owns the place needs to keep their body from decaying in the warmth of summer
So I just can't keep these fucking plants then?

>>4998982
>So I just can't keep these fucking plants then?
That is a possibility yes, if you have bought some especially needy plants.
But a lot of plants do just fine in a houseplant setting without any kind of forced dormancy, so I wouldn't worry about it too much.

>>4998989
I don't care if they flower or not, but it's my nightmare to grow them for like a year or 2 only for them to THEN start etiolating because they didn't take their winter break, propped/pruned cacti look hideous
maybe I just shouldn't keep cacti, they seem absurdly fussy compared to other succulents

>need to keep succulents cool
what

Does anyone else pick seeds off of the plants in garden centres? Am I a thief? Should I feel bad? I took 5 torch lilly seeds last time and i have them in my fridge. I enjoy seeing if things grow. I picked a bunch of Aquilegia seed heads last year but they'll probably mostly be all hybrids but that's the fun in it. They haven't flowered yet

>>4999026
If you want to force dormancy during Winter, yes.

>>4999045
Anon, you are a thief!

So last year these were two small pods of day lillies that I received as cuttings, and planted several years ago. They needed split up again so bad i only had one or two blooms all year. So out they came, got chopped in to a bunch of smaller plants, and relocated. I was confident in the fact that it might take a few years for them to bounce back, get any size, or put decent blooms.
The very next spring they exploded in to this. I may be thinning them out as early as next year.

>>4998970 (OP)
nice lil project starting with these soon. gonna put them all in one 1m trough, top them all off with sand and grit, add some rocks and line the inner lip of the trough with LEDs. pheonix electric desert inspired i guess

>>4999153
That will look great. You can use some crushed lump charcoal in your medium to replace things like perlite and vermiculite. It will look more natural and you'll save a bit of money.

>>4999153
Nice haul, keep us updated with the project :)

I'm trying to learn how to propagate from food scraps. Carrots, lettuce, and cabbage consistently fail for me. I can get them to grow very small new leaves, but they never get roots. I've tried different containers with banana peel fertilizer water, well water, filtered water, and aquarium water. I've also tried room temperature and in full sunlight. I've never gotten roots for those three veggies.

>>4999182
>He fell for it

>>4999110
AM I though? Have you seen the price of plants these days? Who's the real thief?

>>4999202
>>4999110
Anon those plants were stolen from nature and had a price tag put on them
Whos the real thief?

>>4999201
But everything else worked, including growing pinto beans from store bags. :(

>>4999206
I suppose that would make us all thieves

I often think about stealing cuttings of the snake plants and whatever the ones with the big flat leaves that always get spider mites are from the malls near me
Feels like something that no one would bat an eye at if you didn't ask, but the moment you went up and asked someone they'd be like "no, what the fuck you can't do that, that's like, our property" as the poor things sit there mutilated and stretched but still spreading and growing strong through the abuse, probably through sheer force of how many are stuffed into the pot

>>4999339
Just do it. No one will care. I do that shit all the time lol

Am I supposed to keep perlite in these giant horrible chunks or break it up into little specs

>>4999373
just throw it in the trash

>>4999373
Perlite chunks should be small to not block root growth, break it down

>>4999373
The dust will ruin your lungs

>>4999393
I got it free and pumice doesn't exist in the real world
>>4999447
ok
>>4999448
my lungs were already destroyed by diatomaceous earth when I was young

>>4998151
Surely this can't be true, can it?

Started gardening last year and didn't go very well but my raised bed is looking a lot better this year. Cilantro I bought from the store last year reseeded itself and took over the corner.

>>4999045
I pick seeds off the plants in intact local native ecosystems because that's where all the good shit is, but yeah garden centres are fine if you're going for that grandma's windowsill / psychiatrist waiting room aesthetic

>>4999805
What kind of plants be in your local garden centres?

>>4999510
Summer sunlight, max of around 12000 footcandles
phone right up next to the grow light, nearly 35,000 footcandles

>Aloe has literally turned blue red and purple with sun stress, but no visible burns and the leaves are showing no bad signs
>pull it up because it's always flopped around a bit, even when I bought it
>basically no roots at all, but there's a little semi-thick bright green shoot under the soil
Weirdest plant I've owned so far

>>4999817
>footcandles

>>4999820
A foot-candle (or foot-candle, fc, lm/ft2, or ft-c) is a measurement of light intensity. One foot-candle is defined as enough light to saturate a one-foot square with one lumen of light.

>>4999824
That's surprisingly sensible for an imperial unit, I expected something like light flux equivalent of a number of candles from a foot away

Spider mites aren't LITERALLY microscopic, right?
If you sprayed them with poison, you'd see them moving, right? If you wiped the leaves with poison, you'd see something on the paper towel or your finger, right? If you see webbing, you'd see SOMETHING in it, right?

My terrarium has mushrooms growing in it.

>plant bougainvillea, petunia, and sweet basil seeds
>The 72 hour mark is coming up and still no signs of life
Please tell me this is normal...

This might be a stupid question, but how are you supposed to fertilize outdoor potted plants that get their water from the rain?
Surely you don't just spray it onto the dirt like a normie, right?

>>4999964
>3 days
nigga really thought you just dropped seeds in the ground and they instantly sprouted lmao

>best outdoor spot to not have to wake up early to move them around is near someone else's night light providing 20 lux and not letting my plants sleep
It never ends

>>5000030
Pour onto topsoil when raining or in water between rain

Grow lights for a plant collection is such a pain in the ass. I have to move my lights around and at different distances to make sure they all get their share of the light, and my plants are quickly outgrowing their pots which makes it even harder to fit them all.

>>5000118
>Nyoooooo my hobby makes me do things

>>4999846
Yeah. You can even tell if they're the two spotted variety or not without magnification. If you're just seeing a few strands of web here and there then it's probably just a jumping spider. Spider mites will mummify your plants to keep it humid enough for them to live.

>>4999339
This is how I got my snake plants.

>>4999182
Try sticking them directly into soil or change their water every day. You're basically practicing cloning, which can be pretty tricky for new growers. If you want an easy win then plant the bottom half inch of an onion under about an inch of soil and keep the soil moist, but not waterlogged. Cloning store varieties is a lot more work than raising your own vegetables from seed or buying plants from a greenhouse in the spring. Try cloning some herbs and make yourself and herb garden. Pothos makes rooting hormone so you can put a cutting of it in the same water as your clones and they'll root better. Good luck!

>>5000172
I've heard they take an eternity to propgate from leaves as opposed to pups

>move to new house with a small back garden
>finally have space to put all my succs in all day sun for the summer
>within less than 24 hours they are under siege from aphids spidermites and caterpillars

fucking shit

>>5000194
Just do what I do and put them on hot pavement instead of comfortable grass

>>4999468
>pumice doesn't exist in the real world
literally what did bro mean by this

>>4999468
>>5000264
Nta but drugs are bad mkay

>>5000264
Can only be bought online for large markups and shipping costs

>>5000271
This is only available in the fake world right?

>>5000274
Correct

>>5000284
Damn you real world now i have to travel to the fake world through astroprojection to get a bag of pumice

>>4999931
Can anyone ID this mushroom? I live in the Pacific Northwest.

>>5000295

Why is it raining so fucking much holy shit its a third of the way through june and scorching whenever its not raining

>>5000299
Where you at dog? It barely feels like summer has started near me

>>5000354
Yesterday it was 25 and beating down all day, rained a little bit at night
today it was like 15 and overcast all day long,
tomorrow it's supposed to be 30 degrees and clear, and then they're saying it's going to be mild and overcast the entire rest of the week

My cucumbers are barely holding on after we got about three months worth of rainfall in a week and now it's getting cold again
My peppers and tomatoes are still smaller than they were last year in the middle of may

This year is a fucking disaster

>>5000182
They rooted fairly quickly but they haven't grown too much.

>>5000484
From what I've seen the leaf doesn't really grow, it's spending all its energy making a new rhizome to grow new leaves

I finally understand the benefit of putting bark in your potting soil:
1. It doesn't get as moist as fucking peat
2. It doesn't compact easily (inefficient packing)
However, I live in a third world country, and I cannot find any around me. I know I could get it myself from the forest, but I've also read that fresh bark is bad for soil since it saps all the nitrogen or something like that, and I don't feel like waiting for 6 months to age it properly.
Is there any alternative you know of that's easier to source? I already use (pre-limed, pre-fertilized) peat with a lot of perlite and some chicken grit (local limestone) but I don't think that's enough for large pots. Think citrus.

>>5000517
>inb4 crushed lump charcoal
I've been lurking for a year and I'm still not sure if that's a meme or not.

Snake plant cutting from the mall in da wata fo today

>>5000517
the only trouble with bark in the soil is that it will rot, which can be an issue in a houseplant setting
i use fine bark chips as a top dressing for my foliage plants though, great at keeping fungus gnats away, and looks nice

>>5000559
I assume since light is the answer to every single plant question, giving it a strong grow light will make it root and snake faster?
I think it's probably too delicate a process to move it outside before it's planted

>>5000271
where the hell do you live bruh
I'm in >Poland and it's easily available online in many different sizes and quantities
cheap as well and with free shipping

>>5000524
not a meme lol, I always add some to my soil mixes

>>5000599
I was going to say nothing about snake plants are delicate, but that's a lie
There's a beautiful irony to how the cockroach of plants have these very very delicate leaf tips that will just stop the entire leaf from growing at all if they get touched slightly too hard

I talked a lot of shit about the miracle grow cactus mix but it's unironically really decent once it's dried out, actually very light and you can see/feel the sand. Still a pathetic amount of perlite but not the joke I thought it was. Totally dry after a night of rain and a day of sun in terra cotta.

>2025
>buying pre-made soil mixes
>buying soil mixes with perlite

>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO YOU NEED THIS EXACT MIX OF PUMICE, THIS SPECIFIC POTTING SOIL FROM THIS ONLINE SELLER, AND COARSE WASHED ORGANIC BUILDER'S SAND MIXED IN THIS EXACT WAY!!! IT'S SOOOOO MUCH CHEAPER AND EASIER THAN BUYING ONE 5 DOLLAR BAG FROM ANY STORE, AND IF YOU DON'T KEEP YOUR PLANTS THAT LITERALLY GROW IN ROCK CREVICES IN THIS EXCT APPROVED MIX THAT I TOOK FROM A YOUTUBER THEY WILL DIE OF ROOT ROT AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>5000688

Are Mother of Thousands more of a headache than they're worth? Is it irresponsible to keep them outside even if you get snow in winter?

what do I even do about frosts? I live in tropical australia and I'm waking up every morning to literal ice all around the place. No one knows what to do here because as far as anyone knows it's never happened before
do I have to bring plants inside every night or what? I have tomatoes and cactuses and shit. What do I do for the plants I can't bring in cause they're in the ground? I have a bunch of chillies. Are they just gonna die?

>>5000699
I mean, yes? The apocalyptic implications of your area getting snow doesn't change the basic fact that you're getting snow, and have to treat your plants accordingly. If you can't protect them they'll probably be damaged or die because the climate is no longer suitable for them.

>>5000700
>treat your plants accordingly
how does one do this? I gather that I'm right about bringing them in right? is there nothing I can do for the ones I can't bring in?

>>5000701
Yes, you'd bring them inside, and might have to invest in some grow lights.
You could like, pitch tents or do other stupid things to try to protect your outdoor ones, you just don't want dew or snowfall getting on them at night, so you'd need physical obstructions.

>>5000703
>pitch tents
that's not too bad I guess I'll try and set up a tarp. I was reading all this shit online about how I had to prune all the leaves off and was worried that'd just kill it. I'll probably prune off all the fruits though

>>5000706
>about how I had to prune all the leaves off and was worried that'd just kill it.
it'd probably kill your chances of getting tomatoes, but every part of a plant can photosynthesize, even wood.
If they can take the weight, covering them with thick blankets or towels or something would unironically probably be your best bet. The cold air won't really matter THAT much if it's not sustained, but the frost sitting on them biting into them will kill them.

>>5000707
thanks anon
I might take my chances of leaving some of the pot plants outside but under cover if the dew is the main issue since my house is pretty small

I was given a beat-up agave pup as a gift to rehab. Are agaves all too similar looking to get a reliable species ID from here or reddit? I want to know if it's going to become a 10 foot monster that I physically can't move

>>4999153
I specialize in petunias, of late, and find the range and subtlety of colors in them kind of insane. Pretty fond of impatiens too, particularly for the weirdly cool, even frosty, way, their generally warm colors register around dawn or in shady places.

>>5000699
>do I have to bring plants inside every night or what?
Yes

>What do I do for the plants I can't bring in cause they're in the ground
Place upside down pot over them if they are still small
For larger plants you can place white frost protection fabric over them
Both of those methods are only good enough for light frost, hard freeze will probably still kill your plants even if they are protected

>>5000688
Don't think anybody has actually said this.

>>5000688
>He plants his cacti in peat
Get out of my sight.

>>4999817
What growlight is it?

>>5000139
Not what I said.

>>5000811
Tell me the issue if it dries out the next day. Go on.

>>5000699
Try the deep mulch method in Ruth Stout's "No Work Garden Book". She had issues with unseasonal frosts too.

>>5000517
>>5000524
Coir chips are pretty similar, but they absorb about 3 times as much water as bark chips. Crushed lump charcoal would work too, but it would absorb about twice as much water as the bark but it would have better aeration than either. It's only a meme if Milhouse is a meme.

>>5000811
What do you plant it in? Serious question.

>>5000890
3 part mix of organic material from this online seller, organic washed coarse builder's sand and pumice, mixed in the exact ratios this youtuber told me

>>5000906
>not organic pumice
pathetic.

is it wrong to have a favorite plant that you give the best lit spot to bros

I want to pick one type of plant that hits the following criteria:

>fast growing annual
>flowers quickly
>easy to pollinate (has conspicuous flowers)

Marigolds would be a good fit but they are a challenge to pollinate because the flowers are so small. Any other ideas?

>>5000931
opium poppies

Had to sort through produce with mealybugs at work, they were sluggish from being in the fridge, how worried do I have to be about them hitchhiking on my clothes, under my nails, in my hair if I scratched my head, etc?

>>5000848
Dry peat compacts and when it fully dries out it just turns into this really hard block that traps the roots and repells water, takes a lot of effort to remove.

>>5000890
Coir as the organic component, rest is pumice, perlite and whatever else you want to use that isn't organic. I don't use sand at all.

>>5001003
I've actually seen this from the cacti at the store, but the miracle gro really doesn't have this issue either. It's still very loose and airy when it's dry, it gets everywhere because of it.

>>5001004
I think it takes a few cycles for it to have the potential to dry out like that. When my spider plants get dry, they completely repel water. And I had one with damp soil fall from 4 feet high onto the ground and no dirt spilled out.
The work it took to get my cacti out of what they were in at the store is a nightmare.

>>5001010
I'll keep that in mind then

>>5001003
>>5001004
dammit I planted like 30 seeds outside and was wondering why only 4 were thriving

>>5000174
>pothos give rooting hormone
is this real or a meme?. got a dwarf zinnia with stacked crown, making it almost infertile since the stamen doesnt get exposed. i keep growing it from cutting with different degree of success.

>>5001003
>pumice and perlite
rich 1st worlder. in here i use river sand, coarse river sand and coco coir, with composted chicken manure. i water it with ultra diluted (1:20) fermented pisswater. if it aint growing with this treatment it never meant to be grown where i live

>>4999817
In general I find 6000K color temperature just right for most indoor purposes. Maybe about 200 watts per square meter at 90% efficiency, to the general effect of a bright June overcast at around 45 degrees of north latitude.

>>5001096
You're trying way too hard with sarcasm.

>>4998970 (OP)
In terms of close-up appearances, violas/pansies are out of this world, particularly when grown in a mix of this year's easily available two-dozen commercial varieties and last year's cross-pollinated volunteers.

>>5000908
Anon he must be planting in the real world. I found out itt you need to be in the fake world for organic pumice

This is where I get my organic pumice https://www.amazon.com/Organic-Pumice-Horticultural-Natural-gallons/dp/B0DDC4VVV4?th=1
Do you guys have any better alternatives?

>>5001093
It's real. The hormone it produces is called auxin. Willows produce auxin in their bark too. You can always just buy rooting hormone if you don't believe it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auxin

>>5000931
Nasturtium

>>5001176
Is this from the fake world?

>>5000853
Thanks for the info

>>5001183
Must be

>>5001202
Is there a way to access this fake world? Is there a portal or a ship to get there?

>>5001208
I think they let you in when you become a plant youtuber

>>5001209
I'd sow my seeds in Desert Plants of Avalon if you know what I mean

birdplant update, one of the chicks hatched

>Big Charcoal Shills are back

>>5001334
My birdplants are getting big and I'm thinking about trying to transplant them out in the yard soon.

i just planted 2 japanese plum trees in what i hope will become my bountiful orchard

>>5000931
Partridge pea.

>>5001601
You didn't plant too deep, did you?

>>5000931
Zinnias, california poppy

>>5001649
I hope not
The flare on one of them was non existant, just plumb straight then root

My main grocery store has birds nest snake plants in their indoor garden section
Is it worth the risk of a snip if its a product for sale as opposed to a decoration

I use poultry grit (granite) instead of perlite/pumice

it also makes good top dressing

>>5000688
>go to amazon
>google "cactus dirt"
>buy first result
>it worked fine
i never mixed anything with it lel

yesterday I traveled the unpaved backroads to obtain spicebush, shrubby st johns wort and red twig dogwood

today, I shall plant

What happens to plant roots that are just in the open air too long, like if it gets knocked over or something, do they just shrivel and die?

>>5001858
error during planting: large boulder unearthed. I levered it up to the side of the hole with 2x4s (snapped one) but I can't push it out. Amazon delivering straps today and I'll try to make a pull lever to get it up. Then just leave it on the ground as an accent stone.

ok it's not that big but I'd guess it's at least 200lb and I can't get a good angle to hold it. Standing in the hole to push it seems too precarious, I'll drop it and break my legs.

>just pick another spot
no fuck you, I already spent so much time digging out this huge rock and getting so close to getting it out, it's coming out.

>>5002061
Usually that's exactly what happens. It depends on the plant, the type of roots, and how long the roots are exposed for.

Just learned and rectified that because of my bad first-time technique and having "soil bad, rocks good, well draining well draining well draining" drilled into my head my poor succs were basically trying to live in pure perlite instead of any actual dirt

My full sun spot has ants and tiny black bugs crawling all around my pots all the time, getting a flytrap would actively make this worse, right?

>>5002188
>>5002189
>>5002190
I got it out

If you're wondering why the hole is filled with water, I was trying to mix together the native soil with some 2cf bag of topsoil and some fertilizer, so I wet it all thoroughly and stirred with a shovel.

>>5002190
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WXuejg7fwU

What are lithops doing with all that sun? Do they ever get bigger? Is it just random chance if they multiply when they split?

>>5002425
that is a foundation stone. your house is going to collapse

>>5002585
It's about 175ft away from my house though. I have 150ft of hose on my reel and I had to hook up another one to reach the hole.

>>5002268
Why would it?

>>5002624
They attract way more insects than they eat

>>5002514
The real question is why they're not called vagina plants.

>reabsorb damaged leaves and turn them into new pretty looking ones
>make offshoots if something goes horribly wrong and you need to start again from scratch
I love hens and chicks bros, these immortal little things are gonna stay with me forever

>>5002268
>It's actually my cactus attracting ants to protect it from pests
cooooooooooooooooooooooooool

>>5002250
How did you rectify it?

>>5002724
...I replaced some of the perlite with dirt?

>>5002737
>dirt
Actual dirt, or peat?

>>5002250
A lot of succulent growers use pure Pumice or 50/50 pumpice/akadama. All you need to do is water and fertilise more frequently. The major benefit for this system is for more northerly growers that experience colder winters, keeping roots generally drier and more exposed to air helps reduce the risk of root and basal rot. Closer to the equator or in more controlled environments you can usually afford to use finer loam and compost as the risk of rotting is far lower.

I hate peat. Why do people use it?

>>5002767
Is pumice more nutritious than perlite or something or is it solely just for practical purposes like being less dusty/fragile etc? Every serious grower I've seen swears by pumice as the absolute god substrate and barely mentions perlite as anything but an afterthought. What are they eating if they're literally only growing in rocks that aren't being eroded by constant rain?

>>5002772
What else could you use when growing inside containers?

>>5002773
The primary difference is the structure. Open versus closed cells. Pumice has open cells, facilitating water and fertiliser uptake, while perlite is closed cell - its primary use in horticulture is holding and retaining air, and is mixed into heavier organic composts, peat or coir to increase air fill porosity.

Pumice is also stronger and more robust, generally much slower weathering and can be reused indefinitely. Beside that, pumice and perlite are very similar minerally speaking - being primarily silica. Virtually everyone will be watering with a soluble fertiliser so the baseline fertility of the media is not really a consideration, just it's ability to grab and hold the fertiliser until the plant needs it.

>>5002782
you'd think people would mention things like "perlite doesn't hold on to any fertilizer" when going on about the superiority of pumice instead of just repeating "ew its dusty i dont like how it floats to the top" over and over and over.

>>5002772
Insanely enormous water holding capacity and CEC. The microstructure of the moss fibres makes it a unique growing media that is nigh impossible to replicate.

>>5002787
Perlite does hold fertiliser, but only really the outermost surface. It's pretty strongly hydrophobic and so saturating it is very difficult. Perlite has it's place, and in your classic peat perlite mix when repotting you can immediately see how deeply a plant will root into perlite to breathe.

>>5002789
>peat
AIEEEEEEE¡!!!!! GET IT AWAY!!!

>>5002643
because they weren't described by linnaeus

Recommend me some frost hardy succulents that I can grow in a container but leave outside on the patio.
I have a Crassula ovata, and an Aloe 'Christmas Carol' that have both been thriving for the past two years.
South coast of England, almost never gets colder than -5C during the winter here.

Aloe ferox is on my list, since I have seen a couple of mature specimens in the ground in my city, so next time I spot one in the garden centre I will snap it up.

>>5002893
Sedums and sempervivums would be the obvious go to. Aeoniums can pretty hardy. I've heard of some haworthias (mutica, cymbiformis, retusa) surviving pretty well outside too, but they should probably be kept on virtually pure grit.

>>5002893
Sempervivums were literally named "always living" because snow and ice doesn't kill them

>>5002907
>>5002909
Aeonium is a good shout, now that I think of it I have seen other people growing them here.
Semps and Haworthia are maybe a bit small for what I am looking for though.

>>4998970 (OP)
This year I discovered alyssum, especially in combination with linaria. Also recommend impatiens in combination with Verbena in conditions otherwise too sunny and hot for the former alone.

>>5003000
I have a New Guinea Impatiens (potted) and I love how utterly dramatic it is when you miss it's water by 30 seconds

I'm so depressed right now. I live with my parents because autistic NEET and I have nearly an acre of garden but most of it is trees so have nearly nothing to work with and i'm not allowed to change or touch anything or shape it the way I want. I really want my own place but the time I find my way in life i'll probably be 40 years old and then i'll have to buy a house if its even a thing by then and by that time i'll be like 50 years old and then i'll have to shape and grow the garden and by the time it's grown i'll be like 60 years old, and by then, my parents would either be dead or senile so It would all be for nothing
I feel trapped. I wanna kms rn. I just want to garden. I want to shape the place I live in, it gives me some sense of purpose to my miserable small life but it seems unattainable

Guys what do you live for? The only thing I have to live for currently is family, its the only reason I don't just kms

>>5002641
It's not like they summon them from across the world.

>>5002772
>>5002774
>>5002788
You can use coconut coir. It doesn't hold quite as much water, but it's cheaper and better for the environment than using peat moss.

>>5002773
>>5002782
>>5002787
>>5002789
Crushed lump charcoal has an open structure of varying pore sizes which gives it a high CEC, good drainage properties, good water retention, and it can house more diverse soil microbes than perlite. One disadvantage to it is that the ash from pyrolysis can cling to it and make it quite alkaline. I use it in every soil mix I make.

>>5003096
Can't help with your emotional issues, but check out farmer managed natural regeneration or the concept of forest gardening for managing your acre.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agroforestry#Farmer-managed_natural_regeneration

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agroforestry#Forest_gardening

THE LITTLE CIRCULAR BUGS ON ALL MY POTS AND PLANTS *WERE* SPIDER MITES
IT WASN'T JUST LITTLE STRAY PIECES OF WEB FROM SPIDERS
THEY'RE NOT BARELY VISIBLE AT ALL THEY'RE VERY VISIBLE
EVERYONE SAYS YOU NEED A GOD DAMN MAGNIFYING GLASS TO SEE THEM SO I IGNORED WHAT'S BEEN RIGHT IN FRONT OF ME
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>5003114
Well this is kinda what I wanted to do. I wanted to plant a willow on a marshy part of the lawn so it would suck up the moisture and then I could cut it to a stump and let it grow sticks for me for frames to use in my vegetable garden. Two birds one stone. Not allowed. I also wanted to plant some apple trees, since I was a child, must had been well over 15 years now I have been trying but there simply isn't any room because there are big beech trees my father planted about 35 years ago and he really likes them. Probably because he waited that long for them to grow and they are a connection to his youth or something sentimental, idk, but the canopy is joining, they are pretty big now. Any thing I plant is just a temporary place until I find a better spot, but I never find a better spot, because there is none. I don't have any say in where I plant things or make things or do anything

We made a rockery and planted a bunch of stuff in it, the only place were there is room, but now a couple of years later a beech tree is starting to overcast it. This shouldn't be a problem, I could just cut the branches back, or cut the fucking tree and put a tree in that is more suited but nope

I have no agency over my own life, nor in the garden, which is mainly my own hobby and not really his. It isn't my garden, it never will be. I have no control over anything in my life. I am not happy. I think i'm just gonna forget about the one thing that gave me joy in life because now every time I think about it, It only makes me feel frustrated, depressed and miserable. I'm just going to try and get rich as quick as I can now so that I can finally just get my own place with a few acres and retire and boomermaxx in my garden as early as I possibly can

>>5003096
>>5003121
I know how you feel. My gardening is confined to pots in a shady part of the yard because everywhere else gets mowed, weed wacked, or raked to bare soil. The only reason I have to go outside is to check on the stupid little pots of trees I saved from being mowed down.

>>5003167
Depressing. What is it with gen-xers/boomers and lawns? Seriously

>>5003020
Lulz. I suppose my favorite impatiens variety is Beacon Orange, I'm particularly addicted to the white Madagascar Periwinkle with the red center. In most conditions it's easy to grow, and in some looks like heaven.

>>5003171
It takes less thought to make the yard look neat and tidy. We're also taught that leaves amd weeds mean ticks, mosquitos, and other vermin.

>>5003111
>One disadvantage to it is that the ash from pyrolysis can cling to it and make it quite alkaline
So do you wash it first?

>>5003115
>THEY'RE NOT BARELY VISIBLE AT ALL THEY'RE VERY VISIBLE
Yup, that's been my experience as well. Tiny red dots that move around when disturbed.

>>5003180
Mine are brown, every image of them on the internet is white, and nobody ever fucking actually zooms in enough in any "are these spider mites"? posts or "how to get rid of spider mites" videos for you to actually see what they god damn look like, I thought they were exclusively white and you wouldn't even be able to see them until they started making webs. I posted my plants in this very thread in the last thread and people said that they were definitely spider threads, but they're not, and I'm seeing more and more of them. And I can't even spray them with soap because it's still daytime and they'll get incinerated.

And the worst of it is, I see some webs on the grass near them, so they either live out there or have expanded. I'll literally never get rid of them.

I'm done with gardening outside. I don't care about muh suboptimal growth seasons and muh summer explosions, or my slightly acidic rainwater, if I have them sitting in my room under a grow light I know exactly where they are and what's happening to them, and pests can be dealt with instead of being literally infinite facts of reality. Half of them blew over in the wind the other day and half of their potting mix blew out of their pots and all over them because their roots aren't super established yet.

Nature wins, I'm too high-strung to just leave them out to the elements.

>>5003183
>I posted my plants in this very thread in the last thread and people said that they were definitely spider threads
I apparently never did this, I am schizophrenic and pieced this together from other related memories and information.

>>5003188
>I am schizophrenic
No worries, that was clear from your previous post.

>>5003200
ok but the mites are still real.

Plants similar to plams that aren't palms?

Got new growth on my cattleya :)

Do you think it will make good fertilizer if I dump my full ant trap onto the plants

they're already mostly degraded into black sludge. maybe I could mix them in a watering can...

>>5003430
oh not ants I mean flies
like this

>>5003430
>>5003431
Better throw it into a compost pile

>>5003433
I don't exactly have one I just throw my organic waste into the woods without regards to what will compost quickly or take years. Like broken tree limbs and such.

>>5003435
You are missing out on a lot of free compost then

>>5003436
it's ok I can get manure for quite cheap, $5/20lb

>>5002772
>>5003109
I use peat to dab on the hippies telling me not to use it

>>5003382
Seaweed

>>5003178
I don't, I just mix it in knowing that the rest of the soil will fix it before it becomes an issue. It would be pretty difficult to wash it effectively because it has such a high CEC. If you think it will be a problem then you could soak it in water with a pH indicator like red cabbage juice and add vinegar or another acid until the cabbage juice turns the right color. If you're worried about salinity then you can change the water until a TDS meter reads low enough. I'd let each change of water sit at least overnight.

>>5003121
I think we all know how that feels. Good luck, anon.

>>5003382
cycads, tree ferns, bananas

>gave a halfhearted spray wwith 3-in-1
>rained all day today
>no sign of mites
I may have overreacted very slightly
I'm still keeping my favorite inside though.

A bit of a "I have no idea what I'm doing"
Just to see what would happen I germinated a few loquat seeds a few months ago. out of the three only two germinated and this one was the only one not killed by mold. A bit of its roots and the tip of a stem are dead but I can see new roots and as you can see another stem has grown quite nicely besides its first leaf being a bit deformed at the tip.

I know loquats take over five years to fruit, but I want to try growing the thing on a pot, I've researched around but since I was just going by feel at the beginning I have no idea where I should start. Should I replant this now? Should I trim the main stem that fell behind?

I added dry tabaco a few weeks ago because I dunno and it said it helped as fertilizer, after a few days it smelled like dirt so I guess it didn't to any damage. There is a bit of water at the bottom, I only water it to keep the bottom damp.

I have no garden, but I will soon move to a house with a small backyard (no direct sunlight because of how small it is and how tall the surrounding walls are), but I would rather keep it indoors if possible, and prune it to keep it as a small tree.

>>5003382
Beaucarnea

>>5003582
>Pumice
What's it like living in the fake world

>>5003582
I know nothing about loquats but you might want drainage holes

TODAY I LEARNED PINEAPPLES DONT GROW ON TREES

>>5003625
meds

Whats a good price for pumice

>>5003625
There's a pear that tastes like pineapple.

Are mineral substrates ever depleted of nutrients? Wouldn't they just be like, gone and eroded to nothing if they were?

>>5003612
>fake
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=volcanic+pumice

is there a version of roundup that works on animals?

>>5004017
Yes, it's called .22

Are hens and chicks just constantly reabsorbing one or more of their bottom leaves? I read it's a good thing because they do it to power new growth, but I never see other peoples' doing it.

>>5003930
>Are mineral substrates ever depleted of nutrients?
Yes and most straight mineral substrates have low baseline nutrient content to begin with. Most will either repot annually, top dress with slow release fertilisers/manure/compost every 4 months or so, or use a dilute soluble fertiliser mix in with their watering.

>>5004368
Huh.
Makes me wonder why it seems like the more professional/specialized/knowledgable into succulents someone is, the more they reccomend minerals down to nearly a straight mineral mix, and yet it seems that their only actual advantage is negated if you actually water them properly?

>>5004082
all my sempers do it over time

>>5004379
I've put it together that they're basically like Agaves, or aloes, whichever makes the skirt out of their own dead skin, and don't care whatsoever about their oldest leaves. Which is weird, considering they're the biggest ones that would be getting the most light, but I'm not evolution.
I assume it serves as protection of some kind for the cold or something considering how they'll squeeze up and protect their cores during winter.

>>5004377
Succulents have a miniscule nutrient demand, a coarse mineral media has no real downsides for them, they literally evolved to exploit barren topsoil stripped clay, sand and rockface. You can of course micromanage moisture levels for more organic heavy mixes but that is 1. an unnecessary effort and 2. unrealistic the more plants you're managing.

>>5004382
all I know is every couple of months I like to give them a haircut removing all them crispy bottom leaves when they're all desiccated. it's irl ASMR

>>5004385
i wonder if they'd be worth making into compost or if there's basically nothing left but celulose

>>5004389
Everything must be composted anon. Just mix in with kitchen scraps, balance the dry carbons with wet nitrogens.

>>5004391
too complex, made a swamp in a garbage bin

it's been very fun googling "[literally any rock] succulents reddit" and getting a long list of stuff i'll never be able to buy
having every individual rock in the pot be different will be funny

hello /plant/, I got a question

how do I measure a tree's height?

>>5004450
I do it mostly by comparison to rooftop height. and loosely by loose triangulation: There's a certain cottonwood near me that must at least 120 by now. In any case it's about 150 feet away, and its top branches look about 45 degrees up in the sky.

>>5003115
Outdoors, spider mites are a non-issue in my (long) experience. Indoors, they're pretty easy to exterminate utterly, along with aphids, if you prepare a mixture of Seven then add Malathion to it in the same proportion its directions indicate dilution in water, then spray heavily. No ill effects whatever to the plants.

>>5000670

>>5004450
Measure the shadows and the angle of the sun.

Sand niggers in Egypt could figure this shit out 5000 years ago, niggers.

Thoughts on buying live plants online?

>>5004693
Lottery, sometimes you get good quality, sometimes you get something on the verge of death
You might have no choice if you want something rare though

Planted 62 corn stalks and 22 pumpkins last month, they started out well but have been really struggling with this wet pacific northwest summer. I'd take another 100+ degree heat dome over all of this rain.

>>5004716
my spot seems pretty barren in terms of both stores and local hobbyists (just like with everything else i've ever been into), so i may need to just do online for everything.
Are seeds generally reliable or are they their own separate monster to deal with?

would buying a moon cactus just to take it off and grow the pitaya be a stupid idea

>>5004810
It will work, but you are buying a pitaya with a damaged apex, so it will probably look like shit as it grows

>>5004831
woah apex????
like the game??????

>>5004840
The top of the plant. Outisde of branching/pupping, cacti only grow from their tips
So your ungrafted dragonfruit will most likely branch from the cut and look like Sid from Ice Age

Forgot to mention, but if you intend to grow it for its fruit, dragonfruit come in self-pollinating and non-self-pollinating cultivars, and there's no way to know which one you have

>>5004802
Seeds are generally made and packaged by large vendors and only resold by online shops, as long as you go with reputable seed vendor you should be fine
Although they can still send you expired or close to expiring seeds, you can't check the date online like you can in a store

>Had to move into a new place
>Yard has no good full sun spot
>Have to use growlights and fear that they're not doing good enough for my cacti
Is a greenhouse the ultimate endgame for the plant hobby?

>>5005069
Duh

Rabbits have absolutely wrecked my shit this year. Ate the growth points down on my lillies (I hope it killed them) and my sarracenia. Even the sundews got eaten. It was a rough spring, the moss got all torn up too, I think I need to put up some fencing.

Pic is one of the lillies that came back up after getting eaten down.

Is "Maifan stone" just decomposed granite
I saw someone say it is but the only things google tells me about it is third world nigger garbage about it being a magical anti aging healing rock

>>5005345
Look up trapping laws in your state and put out snares. Free rabbit.

>I'll let animals eat my nuts so they can shit out my kids somewhere else
Plants are weird

>i let your mom eat my nuts to spit out my kids somewhere else
sounds pretty normal to me

>>5003096
I get it. Two years ago I decided to live in a tiny overpriced studio apartment because it came with a tiny yard and nearly no rules. I basically traded a second room for some square feet of weeds and snails.
At least you have time so you could pirate some unkempt common space green and treat it as your garden. It's worth a try and most native plants will survive the eventual city mowdown.
>The only thing I have to live for currently is family
Not a bad reason at all though. Maybe add friends and a pet (snail?).

>tfw favorite plant is basil
>tfw no matter how i prune it, i always end up with small narrow leaves
How do people prune basil to get it bushy?

>>5006422
Just the common rule of above the node, you can also follow the rule of 3 nodes before the point of cut, but that way you're getting more of a tree shaped basil.
My personal advice is that the problem isn't the pruning, weatherer soil you are using hasn't enough Nitrogen and calcium for the plant to develop big leaf, try to get a fertilizer which prioritized these elements.
Also don't compare it with TikTok video, most of them use Neapolitan Basil.

>>5006455
ive been pruning like that, so i think it's probably the fertilizer thats the problem. I'll look into that

I have an eastern redbud in my backyard which is splitting. I think it’s mature age, but I don’t know exactly how old. There is like a hole in the middle of 3 main branches. Is it possible to do anything to fix it?

Why is it such common practice to hack echeverias apart, beheading them whenever they start growing their stem and propagating all their offsets, instead of letting them turn into the little trees they naturally grow into?
Mature echeverias are so beautiful but it feels like everyone is horrified of the slightest bit of stem, even though they'll eventually become thick impressive trunks

>>5006422
Are you growing one plant? Or is it those things from the supermarket with 20+ seedling in a pot that inevitably get crowded and stunted?

>>5006422
More light

>>5006660
Yeah I never got this myself unless they've gotten ill for some reason. The leaves propagate easy enough if you want pups.

All mine are in full Australian sun so people's mileage may var w/r/t etiolation.

>>5006718
Do you have any older specimens to post? I'd love to see them!

The fuck happened to this Foxglove?

I still don't get why plants don't grow exponentially faster as they get bigger and able to metabolize more light and have bigger root systems.

I have very hard water. Does the plant use the extra calcium when I water?

I am in awe at how absurdly hard I was going to be ripped off buying from etsy rather than an online store.

>>5006987
when they're larger it takes more time for nutrients to move throughout the plant, i bet that's the main constraint. for example sap only moves like 3cm per minute
but also to grow bigger they have to spend resources on supportive tissue like wood, they encounter more diseases and get damaged, they can't always find the resources they need

>>4998970 (OP)

bought seeds for the first time, gonna try to grow echeveria affinis, and hopefully eventually cross it with something red and make the edgiest most metal echeveria of all time
:DD

>>5007199

>>5007055
It uses as much as it needs. The rest builds up as salt in the soil.

>>5007254
Based

>>5006957
Fasciation

I bought this guy at a local supermarket and he came with like no name on the pot or a little tag or anything like that to help me identify what it is. Was just two bucks and i figured its gonna be alright.
Placed him in the middle of my room first with little direct sunlight and the leaves started to die off and produce some REALLY sticky sap that covered the table and its own leaves that then started to die off.
Put him on the window now for more direct sunlight but he isn't doing any better.
I keep the earth slightly moist, no excessive watering but not letting it dry up either. Been at my place for about three weeks now.

So yeah, dunno what this plant is called and what I should do with it before it dies off for good.

>>5007440
I'll have to follow in the footsteps of every other cultivar by giving it a stupid name that completely oversells what it looks like like Echeveria Agavoides Overdeath Nightmare "Blood Blade"

>>5007481
It's a Fatsia japonica. They do best outside really.

>>5007487
I see.
Best I can do is keep it at the window now I guess.
And maybe I guess just spray it from the top with water occasionally from what I read just now.

>>5007488
The thing that murders the most indoor plants is overwatering in those decorative pots, as since they can't drain, water pools and rots the roots and base of the plant. Best way to avoid it to do is take it out of the decorative pot, water it under the tap, then let all the excess drain out. Make sure it stops dripping before putting it back into the decorative pot.

The die back you encountered is probably just because your house is a lot less humid than the nursery it was grown in. New leaves should be adapted to your house and have a thicker waxy cuticle to protect them.

>>5007495
oh yeah that could've been it
its been very warm and dry here for the past month and I guess the fella really didn't like that

>>5007497
Woah its a maple tree

I grew this plant from a supermarket avocado. Why are the leaves turning black? In all the pictures I've found online, the blackening/browning seems to start from the tips. Is this simply a sunburn?

>>5007905
that means it's turning ripe and will be ready to eat soon.

>>5007907
Funny
>>5007905
Or perhaps the pot's too small for it?

>>5007911
The pot is 7.5 inches btw

Here are my questions about seeds/seedlings because information on this is surprisingly thin and contradictory.

I know they need it warm to sprout, but once the leaves are out of the dirt, do they still need to be kept warm all the time?
So they need to constantly be kept humid? Is it a humid environment but dry soil deal? So many people I see say "I use 50% seed soil and 50% perlite" but isn't perlite explicitly for drainage?
If they need to be kept wet and don't need much nutrients, why isn't a soil of nearly all vermiculite more common? It retains water but stays loose and airy for root development. I see everyone saying perlite but no special attention is given to vermiculite.
How intense of light is too much light? Should they be close under my strong grow light?
How important is getting seedling soil specifically? How important is cooking it first?
Do they have a tendency of just dying for no reason in the middle of the night? Should I keep as many as alive as possible for as long as possible even if I'm only planning on keeping one?

>>5007917
Those people are fucking autistic dude. I just plant seeds in dirt and put them in a window during the day.

>>5007917
unless you're trying to grow a rare bonsai from a seed, this is not worth the fucking effort
slam that shit into dirt and spray some water on it

>>5007917
>plant in
Just use dirt. I like happy frog. People using sterile, dead seed mix and then fertilizing a mix of special rocks strike me as just trying to flex their plant knowledge.
>germination temps
Are real. Black containers +window light+plastic wrap does the job.
>do seeds have to be wet to start?
yes
>how much light
Feel it out. Windows are usually just enough.

>>5007905
It could be that the pot is too small or it doesn't receive enough sunlight, or also not enough Zinc and Phosphorus.
>>5007911
How long the plant takes to dry the soil? do any root escape from the bottom? a bigger pot (22cm or 25cm if there are many root at the bottom) isn't a bad idea.
Try to avoid making "hills" with soil, a donut tends to work much better. And don't put that much perlite, you still want your soil to retain some water, otherwise the plant will not be able to gather nutrients.

I have this pot, is quite cool looking and very big but it has this raised drainage hole, it stand at 2cm above the bottom, what should i do? should I fill the bottom with expanded clay/gravel, put a cloth and then put soil above losing 15-20 Liters of soil or I can put soil without worrying?

>>5007953
Is it plastic? You could just punch more holes into it.

>>5007917
Hello, I work at a commercial seed wholesaler that performs viability tests on stock of over 1000 species and 3000 cultivars every 3 months. Virtually every test is sown onto a half a cm thick layer of silver sand over about 1 cm of moist 50/50 peat/perlite, in a small clear plastic lidded tray, then kept at room temperature.

>do they still need to be kept warm all the time?
Warm = growing season temps, i.e. a minimum 15 to 18 degrees soil temp.

>So they need to constantly be kept humid?
70 to 80% humidity is perfect. Basically any lidded propagator will keep seedlings happy.

>Is it a humid environment but dry soil deal? Yes to humidity, no to dry soil. Soil should be moist but not wet.

>why isn't a soil of nearly all vermiculite more common?
Cost.

>So many people I see say "I use 50% seed soil and 50% perlite" but isn't perlite explicitly for drainage?
Perlite in this instance is more about creating air cavities.

>How intense of light is too much light? Should they be close under my strong grow light?
Direct sunlight is generally too intense, particularly combined with glass, it can cook windowsill propagators. Any indirect sunlight (i.e. north facing windows) is fine. Virtually any artificial light will be substantially less intense than sunlight.

>How important is getting seedling soil specifically?
Very dependant on your local topsoil, and how many seeds you're sowing.

>How important is cooking it first?
Not important, unless you're already working in a sterilised laboratory environment.
>Do they have a tendency of just dying for no reason in the middle of the night?
Sometimes. Damping off and botrytis are the major enemies of seedlings. Both can be prevented by intermittently airing the seedbed. Otherwise, dilute copper sulphate solution is the answer.

>Should I keep as many as alive as possible for as long as possible even if I'm only planning on keeping one?
That's generally sensible.

>>5008226
:DD

>>5007953
>gravel
Will just raise the internal water table. Just drill more holes.

Or fill with concrete?

>Sun is so harsh right now that my flytrap is struggling with it.
Incredible.

>>5008301
one of my sempervivums got bleached during the heatwave a little while back :(

>>5008303
Really sorry to hear that, I hate any sort of wide damage like that on a plant.

The literal day after being driven to buy Affinis seeds due to a nonexistent plant market and exhorbitant etsy prices my research has let me identify that the grocery store 5 minutes away from me has been selling Affinis all summer, they are simply neglected to the point of being unrecognizable, completely green, flat, and only having their little claw tips on their innermost leaves.
right after i spent the money
D:

>>5008418
Buy the store affinis, then grow the seeds up, then breed them with the store affinis. Collect seeds, rinse repeat. Produce your own select lineage.

>>5008422
couldn't i just do this with only the seed ones?

>>5008429
The store one is probably mass veg propped so will probably be an actual named cultivar, albeit an old one, even if it looks like shit right now. F1 Seed grown in comparison tend to all be very similar, you need numbers, a bit of line breeding and several successive generations to see decent variety pop up. So the store one will give you a decent leg up in your breeding project.

>>5008439
sorry but a lot of your post is going over my head
>so will probably be an actual named cultivar
i can see that it's not a black knight or prince, and other varieties like serrana are even more expensive than those two common ones which are already inflated due to their fame, so would they really grow them and sell them to a grocery store in a pot with a random other plant, label them 'succulents' and charge like 7 dollars for it?
>F1 Seed grown in comparison tend to all be very similar
here's where im confused and im trying to research but it's not explained very accessibly
so the seeds i would get from the eventual pollination of my seedlings would be f1s? which will all be similar and wont produce visual mutations?

i thought i could just rub the pollen from 2 different looking echeverias together and hope the hybrid seedlings look nice, i'm really not educated at all on this kind of thing DD:

I wrote a python script that scrapes iNaturalist and generates a collage image. I'm going to use it to better learn the differences between species in my favorite genera. Here's a little sample. Any requests?

>>5008441
>so would they really grow them and sell them to a grocery store in a pot with a random other plant, label them 'succulents' and charge like 7 dollars for it?
Yeah. Veg propping echeverias and most succulents is extremely easy and faster than sowing seed. It takes about 10 or so years for a named variety to be mass propped to the point of saturation, and that is only accelerating with the increasing ease and accessibility of tissue culturing. It could be an old cultivar from the early 2000s but it'll be a cultivar.

>here's where im confused and im trying to research but it's not explained very accessibly so the seeds i would get from the eventual pollination of my seedlings would be f1s? which will all be similar and wont produce visual mutations?

Yeah in 99% of cases, they'll be very generic. You need numbers. Commercial breeders will have polytunnels filled 10s or 100s of thousands of trial seedlings to select through every year. Smaller scale can work but you'll need more focus and luck.

>I thought i could just rub the pollen from 2 different looking echeverias together and hope the hybrid seedlings look nice, i'm really not educated at all on this kind of thing DD:

These things happen and can create interesting plants. Sometimes it takes crossing the F1s back to the parents, or crossing F1s amongst themselves, then F2s, F3s etc. You might strike gold first go, never know.

Complex hybrids involving many different species may also be achieved but I don't know flowering times, how readily echeverias cross or the consequential fertility of the offspring. Sometimes you encounter polyploid offspring that will have doubled chromosomes, and will only be fertile amongst others of the same chromosome count. They usually come with interesting characteristics.

>>5008550
ty

Any suggestions on how to avoid mold/damp in a room I plan to humidify the shit out of to grow mushrooms? I know they're not technically plants but hope that's ok.

have you tried humidifying a local area instead of keeping your entire living space at 100% humidity

>>5008583
Set up your shrooms in a grow tent and have a proper compressor or desiccant dehumidifier running outside the tent, do not use peltier dehumidifier

>>5008583
Dude. Do not attempt to cultivate mushrooms in an open room. Either use plastic tubs or bags. You will destroy your house.

>>5007486
Based i hope to one day cross a plant and put a really edgy name to it \m/

>>5008473
Temperate droseras that grow in North America.

I'm obsessed with brugmansia and datura. Not because >dude drugs lmao, but because I genuinely think they're the most beautiful flowers on the planet. I really want to plant some but my fear is that some dumbass kid will steal some from my yard and his parents will sue me after he goes on a nightmare trip and/or dies. How worried should I be about this?

>>5008758
If you can be in the clear to shoot people by putting up a sign you can be in the clear if someone trespasses onto your yard and fucks with your garden by putting up a sign

>>5007354
I'll take that as a compliment.
>>5008758
I'm obsessed with petunias, common as the species is as a garden variety--much as I prefer rather a lot of other flowering plants for scent. The range of colors and patterns in them is kind of insane, never mind the intrigues thereof.

>>5008789
For instance:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orange_petunia

>>5008758
I love datura flowers too. They look menacing and beautiful at the same time. The fruits look pretty cool.

>>5008800
Datura is pretty spectacular,,a little otherworldly, and easy to grow if you let it go from one year to the next, in the right site. The seeds, for some reason, in my experience, never germinate unless exposed to winter conditions.

>>5008809
It's also highly immune pests, and is renowned as as dangerous ordeal type of hallucinogen.

there appear to be some creatures on my violets. Anyone know what they are? I think I might just leave them out for the lizards to eat them all

>>5008583
>>5008590
Kek. Reminds me of that dude who had mushrooms growing out of his toilet

fuck yo pot nigga

>got into plants
>after a year ended up with 250+ potted plants
>thrip infestation pretty much killed all but 2-3 plants
>over a year of no plants
>getting the urge to start again but just 1 or two plants
>know it will get out of hand again

Bros..

>>5008987
Grow natives from seed. I got into foraging seed on hikes, so I don't pay for shit. I scratch my collector's itch that way.

>>5008992
I've got my kick out of that, grew corms everywhere. Propagated a ton.
Currently have 17 tabs of plants I'd like to get.. It's over.

>>5009018
I don't have the problem of compulsively shopping anymore. I used to collect vinyl records, but I gave that up too. I get more enjoyment walking around my garden and seeing insects in all my flowers and taking nice photos of them than arranging a whole bunch of exotic plants on a shelf. I've tamed my collector/hoarding instincts this way. It has saved me a lot of money.

Bzzzzz

Been out of town for two hot dry weeks, didn't water didn't worry.

I did miss most of my lillies blooming tho

Petunias are tough, considering this nest has already hatched 2 birds and will have another 2 eggs shortly.

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>>5009139
rabbits ate all my black eye susans :(((((

I put a cutting slightly to the side of a reptile UVB T5 and it's developed a rather weird growth pattern but seems to be loving life

Worth getting pinguiculas or should I just.. stick.. to using yellow gluettaps?

>>5009563
I grow Drosera capensis and they do a good job of capturing small gnats and flies. It's not insignificant.

>>5009563
Carnivorous plants are not a form of pest control.

>>5009732
I used to have fungus gnats but then I grew a bunch of sundews from seed and now I don't. I improved my watering technique also, but tiny flying pests are not a problem in my house anymore.

>I improved my watering technique also,

>>5009757
Okay. I'll pretend the hundreds of little dead flies on them are just decoration if it makes you happy.

>Sunburnt the echeveria i rescued from the store with a grow light because "it's still not putting on its sun stress colors and not pointing up all the way yet so it still wants more light jesus this thing is hungry"

Saved this girl from going in the trash today, now to find a place for her. Thinking outside in the meshed lean-to down the side

>>5010021
oops

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>>5009732
Pinguicula specifically target thrips, the nr1 worst pest you can get. They love the bright green color since it signifies new growth ripe for feeding and breeding.

They're kinda difficult to buy herr, only finding them on amazon out of all places.
Want to put one in each of my potted plants in it's own pot.

>>5010021
Better isolate it to check for infestation. They are thrown out if any small amount of pest is found(if its a store you got it from).

>>5009902
>colors start coming in the very next day
I'm sorry my beautiful boy. I couldn't have waited just one more day

Look at all that California poppy

Fucking spider mites on my palm AGAIN

and by AGAIN I Mean why the fuck do palms ALWAYS get spider mites no matter WHAT the fuck you do?
NEVER have an indoor palm. It's gay.

>>5010376
what the fuck ass kind of palm gets enough light indoors? probably something to do with why it's so vulnerable to pests

>>5010397
ive got floor to ceiling windows. but yeah, palms dont really belong indoors, though some try. its an areca palm. but it even happened to my cat palm too, repeatedly.

>>5010399
>areca palm
to be fair, that shit doesn't belong outdoors either. it's a fucking plague and so are the house flipping parasites that plant that shit in gardens

>>5010401
im assuming this is a florida thing, sounds gay. it looks pretty nice in the corner of my place, but honestly you are right on one point which is i dont expect it to last. when it inevitably dies i wont be replacing it with another palm.

>>5010402
it's an australia thing too. maybe move it closer to the window desu. also send me some of those spider mites so I can release them here

>>5010403
you want spider mites? thats insane, i hate them. what good are they for?

>>5010376
I think spidermites love plants that have a ton of tiny crevices to hide in to start the infestation. Plants that grow leaves vertically, along the stem are perfect, tiny crevice that is difficult to inspect.

>>5010404
killing areca palms

>>5010406
kek

I feel like in any other context, spider mites would be a very interesting terrarium pet
Imagine watching them mummify a pothos and being like 'yeah you go my little guys'

>>5010563
Could probably be an interesting terrarium project.
Intentionally infest a plant with some pest, shove it in a big glass container with plants and also put in a predator.
In the end, you release the predators in your normal plants.

Black swan poppy

I planted this over a year ago

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