Thread 938909308

Why are atheists so gullible?

>>938909308 (OP)
Why are theists so ignorant?

>>938909380
Your ilk literally believe men can be women.

>>938909547
No, that isn't a universal belief of atheists.
Your lot thinks people go to hell for eating shrimp and wearing more than one type of fabrics though.

>>938909750
>muh mixed shellfish
>muh mixed fabrics
Stale atheist comeback is stale.

>>938909863
And your iron age view of the world isn't stale?

>>938909885
God's Truth will never be stale, fedora

>>938910145
Prove that your god and your religion is more than a story made by humans please.

>>938909308 (OP)
Where do you think humans came from, and what evidence is there of this origin?

>>938910185
Prove that the big bang is more than a story made by humans.

Religitards are truly pathetic. Imagine being so gullible you think a magic invisible man is watching everything you do and made everything. On an unrelated note, I have a bridge in the sky to sell you

>>938909308 (OP)
>An angel told Mary she was carrying the son of God.
>told
Why did the Christian god impregnate an underage girl without her consent?

>>938910275
Your turn religitard

>>938910412
At what i am seeing? No proof so.

>>938910275
The big bang has actual evidence behind it and in spite of what you might think, isn't an explanation of how the universe started, it just describes how the universe acted shortly after it came to be. No one has any definite evidence on what caused it to exist in the first place.
Not unless you can prove that your god actually created it that is.
In that case we would know what caused the universe to exist, because you would have proven it.

>>938910452
>im retarded, spoon feed me

>>938909308 (OP)
do one for whales its even more fucked up

>>938910472
>Trust me, bro! This abstract drawing proves it!

>>938910472
You claim that gods don't exist and that they came from a so-called big bang, and that as a result of that marine species were created by I don’t the fuck how (lmao), and that they became monkeys because one of them decide to go out the waters and that we are their evolution... well now I'm waiting for proof, which will never come of course

>>938910808
You are talking to another anon than the one you were initially arguing with, which is me.
My reply to your challenge is here >>938910471

>>938909547
No, we believe gender as a social construct is open to change and people have the freedom to live as they please.

>>938909308 (OP)
One is based on a century of science, which you won't read of course, while your argument is basically just "god did it" with not a shred of curiosity in that empty mind of yours.

>>938910452
This is an image of cosmic microwave background radiation, used as the key piece of evidence for the big bang. Basically there's this massive amount of very old red shifted electromagnetic waves, all propagating outwards in all directions. It's hypothesized that if you turned back the clock 14 billion years or so, you'd reach a very dense point from where it started from. That's all the big bang really is, it's playing our understanding of physics backwards until the point our model breaks down.

>>938910808
Science makes no claims as to where the universe came from, only how we think it happened as the evidence shows. There's room for a god to create everything, but it's also just an extra step with no evidence so why would science include it in the model?

Oh Almighty, forgive them their pathetic ignorance.

>>938910917
>One is based on a century of science
Science didn't start until 1925?

>>938910917
So when's your reassignment surgery?

>>938910275
Cosmic microwave background radiation; redshift of distant galaxies.

>>938911037
It started earlier than that, but didn't stop making unfounded claims about a hypothetical god until 1925, hope this helps.

>>938910808
This guy has an IQ under 70 if he's not trolling. This reads like something I heard at church in 2005.

>>938909308 (OP)
>”CHECKMATE ATHEISTS LE LEFT BRAIN IS HECKIN RARDED!!!”
>”EWWW RELIGIONOID OBVIOUSLY THE RIGHT BRAIN IS RARDER!”
Like you need both. You are both halfbrained.

>>938911145
He's Kent Hovind'ing alright.

>>938911183
So god exist or not?

>>938911183
Lemme guess, you think agnosticism is a position instead of a statement of a lack of knowledge in what you believe in.
Gnostic theists and atheists are retards sure, but admitting to not knowing for sure is respectable in both theists and atheists.

>>938911108
Helps what? You don't even know when "On the Origin of Species" was published, do you?

>>938911268
What does the exact date that Darwin published it have to do with anything in particular? Evolution is true entirely independent of Darwin and whatever he said and believed.

>>938911268
>You don't even know when "On the Origin of Species" was published, do you?
November 24th 1859, as far as I know Darwin wasn't an atheist though.

>>938911037
It wasn't really a fixed date dude, I was simply stating that there's a LOT of evidence of evolution, to the point that it's frankly not refutable in the slightest if you had even the slightest comprehension of what we know about modern genetics. Just take a class, that's literally all you'll really need. Or skip the middle man and get a textbook, the library might have one. One thing to remember: All science is based upon factual observation. There's no guesses. A scientific model is simply framing our evidence into the simplest model that works with all evidence. God is ultimately the most complex model possible, so it's really stupid to suggest we jump straight to god did it whenever we don't know something yet.

>>938911099
I'm comfortable in my body, some people aren't. Freedom of expression means that you can change yourself if you wish. Basic human decency means you don't hate somebody simply for changing their outward expression, they're innocent to anything.

>>938911268
I wasn't born in 1800 retard

>>938911342
>All science is based upon factual observation. There's no guesses.
Blatantly false. Scientists make shit up all the time.

>>938911327
Congrats on using google.
Darwin never came out and said it, but he became extremely embittered with religion do to the death of his daughter, and pretty much divorced himself from the church in his later life.

>>938911491
Okay, none of that invalidates what he discovered though.

>>938911491
>i owned you, checkmates

>>938911369
>Trust the science guy doesn't know basic things about the history of philosophy of science
>Likely never took a science class that wasn't a freshman intro class
>His belief in science has more to do with his politics and ideology than any understanding of it

>>938911401
Name one time. Reminder of the difference between theory and hypothesis. Hypothesis is an educated guess(read: not made up, they're guessing what will happen) on the nature of something for a given model, and a theory is this model put together into a coherent pattern based on observed evidence.

Take gravity, this is the theory that waves give objects mass and that an acceleration is applied based on mass alone. Plenty of experiments have confirmed this behavior, and we've never observed an inconsistency in how gravity behaves at various distances. The theory of gravity, dictated by the gravitational equations, is considered fact as there's years and years of observed confirmations, and no refutations.

For it to have been a guess, it would mean scientists just saw shit fell down, and then made up a reason and pretend they had evidence that doesn't really exist. It's a retarded notion.

>>938909863
>muh
isn't an argument.
>>938910185
>>938910248
Neither of you can prove these things.

>>938911538
Never said it did.

>>938909547
2nd post in and you resorted to a strawman.

>>938911587
>Neither of you can prove these things.
I admit that anon, get the theist to admit the same though, I dare you.

>>938911576
I used to get in these sort of debates all the time when I was in grad school. At some point, I realized that like 90+% of the people arguing knew fuck all about the topic, and it was largely a bunch of dipshits who trusted different authorities arguing with each other.

>>938911637
I know, he won't. Worst post is, he made his claim first, and nobody brought up the big bang until he did

>>938909308 (OP)
God is real and he loves you
people that disagree tend to have issues with thier parents

>>938911727
People that agree with you tend to have been molested in a pickup truck.

>>938911713
>and nobody brought up the big bang until he did
Why would they, the big bang doesn't explain how the universe came to be.

>>938911727
I love my parents and they love me, yet I'm an atheist, what now anon?

>>938911757
>People that agree with you tend to have been molested in a pickup truck.
You are angry with your life, but that doesnt make you special. The human condition is universal

i assume it is because the need to tell people you are something stems from a belief that most people are similar, and if presented with information they too will make a conclusion. the reality is that even as children the kids will avoid certain children.

>>938911786
Good for you outlier.
Enjoy arguing with people on the internet about things you hate since you are so happy with your life.

>>938911763
Theists think it does, though. They feel as if science is blasphemy because they think we're trying to explain the world without god, and therefore we're opponents to their entire way of life and worldview.

Of course, science can't know the unknowable and never claims to. The best science can do is use theory and hypothesis; taking what we know, and finding something that explains it all. Cosmic microwave background doesn't have a rationale to exist, but it's explained by the idea that, if the universe is expanding, maybe it was small at one point.

>>938911232
I’m pretty dead certain he does, but he is capable of hiding his existence from anyone he feels like. Really its irrelevant, whether or not god exists, the game exists, and there is a optimal way to play the game. And its not all numbers, its a game of love, of art, of poetry too. Man has evolved to be irrational, to cope with an irrational condition.

>>938911873
>Enjoy arguing with people on the internet about things you hate
I don't hate theists or religion, I just don't think they're correct in their assertions.

>>938911913
Evolution is not goal oriented. Man didn't evolve to be rational or irrational. He evolved to survive and reproduce within this environment.

>>938911727
If he loves me, why does he offer no reassurance? He could just say "Yo I'm here", or let the world know a little reminder in some fashion. You know how much peace would be caused in an instant if god spoke up in the modern day?

Another issue is that there's just no evidence to any miracles. Every last one is hearsay, there's no confirmable or repeatable miracles. If you study medical records, you'll find that christians don't get well faster or better, or have less diseases. That alone seems to defeat the idea that god's looking out, imo.

>>938911974
Belief is a human condition.
You believe atoms exist despite the fact you have never measured one yourself. You believe that enough people have measured it and confirmed it that it must be true. That is were you put your faith

>>938911763
It also doesn't prove your claim.
>>938911830
You lost your virginity to your uncle, but that doesn't make you special. It just makes you republican.

>>938911580
>Name one time.
Climatologists and paleontologists make stuff up in every study because they have a sufficiently low amoumt of information to draw from that they can come up with desired results by tweaking variables.

>>938912115
>It also doesn't prove your claim.
What claim? That I don't see any evidence of any god existing?

>>938912028
Wich is definition of life, peoples tend to separate human from the rest

>>938911873
>asserted without evidence
dismissed without evidence

>>938911727
He seems pretty inactive for a supposedly all-powerful and all-loving being.

>>938911913
> but he is capable of hiding his existence from anyone he feels like
The problem with this argument is that it's circular, this is an equally valid statement:
>Santa Claus is only real to true believers, he is invisible to all observation but he really is the one leaving the toys under the tree, the parents just think they did through christmas magic.

Do you really not see the problem with the concept that god can only exist for people who already are convinced he exists? How can anyone possibly become a believer if the ONLY way is indistinguishable to delusion?

>>938912109
There is no "faith" involved. It's a fact that atoms exist.

>>938912045
God isn't some old testament entity that will just give you bread. You have to believe.
>Look at the birds of the air, for they neither sow nor reap nor gather into barns; yet your heavenly Father feeds them. Are you not of more value than they?
Mathew 6:26
God doesn't put birds in masturbation chambers even if they ask for it.

>>938912109
I don't need faith in atoms when an electron microscope exists anon.

>>938912144
I thought you were claiming God existed. I read it wrong, my bad.

>>938911873
And that why here is a thread about atheist either

>>938912028
It is goal oriented. The goal is survival. Those who do not pass go do not continue on. So if the environment that molded man was perfectly rational, why is man a schizophrenic ape with a god delusion?

>>938912242
No worries anon, friendly fire happens in these discussions.

>>938912261
Incorrect. There is no goal. If you think there is, you're badly misunderstanding what evolution is. It's no more goal oriented than gravity or relativity.

>>938912266
checked

>>938912217
Irrelevant.
You have never measured one yourself. You have faith that people aren't lying to you.
>>938912177
You have do believe to receive
>>938912173
>>asserted without evidence
>dismissed without evidence
Said the happy man with a fulfilled life
>>938912115
You are angry with your life and project it onto other. It's okay, we were all kids once.

>>938912232
>You have to believe.
How? How can this possibly happen in literally anyone, ever? The only option is to begin deluded to a mental illness level.

I can't simply go along with it until god shows himself, that's not believing. You expect me simply to believe without any reason or evidence, and apparently that magically causes evidence to appear. I can only get assurance after already assured. It's literally fucking impossible without being the very definition of delusional.

You cannot convince someone of something without a reason that only exists after the convincing. There's no way to distinguish between rationality at that point. How do I know I didn't just hallucinate it out of sheer desire?

Might as well do that native american thing where you live alone in the woods until you see a spirit. Is that proof the indians are right? There's plenty who experienced that. You just have to stay in the woods dude, get out there.

>>938912381
You make a lot of stupid assumptions for someone who started a troll thread.

>>938912381
>You have never measured one yourself.
Have you measured god and if so, would you mind sharing your findings?

>>938912397
You have to admit that you can be wrong.
At least that is how it started with me.
Think less, thank more. You have a lot given to you. You should show more appreciation for it to get more value from it.
>>938912431
I noticed you didn't prove me wrong

>>938912339
This seems kind of blackpilling. I’m no fan of reason but I can’t help but feel like we’ve been put on this earth to serve some kind of purpose. The human brain is one of the most complex structures in the universe, and the enemy and law of the universe is entropic decay into simplicity. Doesn’t that fill you with some sense of duty?

>>938912483
"Because there's bugger all to find here on Earth".

>>938909308 (OP)
Why would they be gullible? Atheist literally means to not believe in a god.
Seems to me like theists are the gullible ones. Faith is blind after all.

>>938912471
>You shall not put the Lord your God to the test.
Deuteronomy 6:16
God isn't some Zeus flying around shooting lightning out his ass. If you want that out of a religion go be a muslim.

God is dead and boiling in Satan's feces because my wyvern vore content is better

>>938909308 (OP)
Nigger evolved from monkeys, I think that is obvious

>>938912598
>Gittin 57a
If you are going quote something provide the source

>>938912501
>but I can’t help but feel like we’ve been put on this earth to serve some kind of purpose.
Purpose and meaning is something humans imbue into things and that fact doesn't diminish how important it is for them.
Even if we're here by accident and the universe doesn't hand us meaning and a purpose inherently, the things we find important are still valid and worthwhile.
Needing the universe to be made for you specifically is an egotistic foible. You shouldn't need everything to be about the human race in order to find purpose and contentment anon, in fact needing that is a recipe for disappointment.

>>938912501
At it's most basic, evolution is a description of how self replicating information is shaped do to the constraints of the medium and environment in which it exists.
It has no statements on existence or purpose, either scientific or theological. Such things are entirely human philosophy.

>>938912593
>If you want that out of a religion go be a muslim.
I don't want anything from religion, because in my perspective it isn't strictly needed to live a good life.

>>938912640
Ew. Don't be racist. White people are known as mayo monkeys for a reason

>>938912736
>do to
due to

>>938912500
Here's a very simple logical flow:
1. To be convinced of something, you must have evidence of its existence
2. God shows evidence of existence to believers
3. For you to know god exists, you must know god exists

Chicken or the egg, dude. Did you get evidence first, or did you believe in his existence and follow along for absolutely no reason until you got it? If god requires curiosity to be gone before curiosity can be sated, it is fundamentally impossible for anyone skeptical to ever believe in god. So why do you bother talking online if this is the end result of your beliefs? It's literally impossible to save anyone with a rational mind by your own admission.

>>938912744
>Don't be racist
>Bes a racist
kek

>>938912759
Don't care didn't read

Reminder no religion in the world can stand up to two simple words. Prove it.

>>938912598
You're jewish.

>>938912744
ChrisChan is that you?

>>938912738
Why choose to be handicapped and avoid the wisdom from your ancestors?
>>938912700
You are one in a million. Not just as a human, but as a solar system, as a galaxy.
Your life has meaning.
>>938912759
Show me the atom you measured and there can be an end to this madness

>>938912177
it's not necessary that God be all-loving
that's a Christian concept
in the Hebrew scriptures, God isn't even mostly loving; he lets HaSatan torture the fuck out of Job and kill all his kids, and when Job is about to tell God to go kick rocks, God basically says, "Where the fuck were you when I laid the foundations of the Earth? Huh? Oh, you were nowhere? Because you ain't shit? You little punk ass bitch, I do what I want."
God killed everyone on Earth except for one family, and most of the animals because the humans were wicked (this derives from an older Mesopotamian story where the gods killed everybody but Utnapishtim and a slightly larger group of people than just his family with a flood for being too noisy, preventing the gods from sleeping)
God promises never to kill all humans again with water, apparently reserving fire, big fucking rocks, or TurboAIDS as options, i guess
Esau pops out his momma's pussy, followed by Jacob, and God was like, "I love Jake, but I hate that little faggot Esau." why? i refer you to Job
some kids are making fun of Elijah for being bald, and God sends a bear to tear them to pieces
not very loving

>>938912500
>Think less, thank more. You have a lot given to you. You should show more appreciation for it to get more value from it.
In my mind I appreciate life more if it happens to be a fluke, because then I won the cosmic lottery and I got to think about things instead of being a piece of unthinking lichen on a rock somewhere.
I could have been unthinking life, but I got to be the sort of life that appreciates beauty and for that I am grateful.

>>938912500
>prove me wrong
That's not how it works. I'm sorry you were molested, trumphick.

>>938912879
>Why choose to be handicapped and avoid the wisdom from your ancestors?
I haven't made that choice, I've taken the good advice I could from the bible, I just left the fantastical stuff from it to be a story we used to convey that good advice.
>You are one in a million. Not just as a human, but as a solar system, as a galaxy.
>Your life has meaning.
I know, because I have things I find important and good, I don't need the universe to be about me to have that though.

>>938912879
What? How does the measurement of an atom even change anything? We don't need to know atoms exist for sure to model their behavior. We knew about neutrons decades before they were formalized and isolated simply because we realized things were heavier and larger than they should be, and there was a stability in atoms that the math didn't yet check out for.

I don't need direct measurements to know an atom exists, I just need to know what is impossible without atoms that exist. Science 101

>>938912938
>trumphick.
You're in the wrong discussion thread Trump derangement anon.

>>938912884
>and God sends a bear to tear them to pieces
That'll teach the little bastards to respect their elders.

>>938912994
He's mentally ill and basically does this sort of thing his every waking moment.

>>938912593
>don't ask questions, goyim

>>938912828
Yes I am Jewish and you are a goy cattle >>938912841
*Gasps* How did you know?

>>938912889
I am grateful to be live and be able to talk to so many people over the internet. I am grateful for you.
Though, being an unthinking lichen would be a pretty chill life.
>>938912969
If what you say is true, then you are an outlier. Another blessing.
Other people think differently and simply don't understand things the same way.
Though you are still missing something by not believing in a higher power
>>938912992
Show me the atom you measured or admit you trust millions of people to not be lying to you.

>>938913045
Because you are enormous faggot I would tell to commit suicide, also Shadow the hedgehog.

>>938912994
I notice that you didn't try to prove that you're not a trumphick and that you weren't molested.

>>938912994
I'm sorry you were molested anon

>>938913263
Same, it handicaps them for life and gives them Stockholm syndrome.

>>938913132
>Though you are still missing something by not believing in a higher power
What am I missing though? No one can prove that a higher power exists.
In my opinion a world without a higher power necessitates having to take responsibility for how you act and think, because there is no devil to blame for your sins and there is no god to take the credit for when you do good, there is only you acting in a good or a bad manner and you are responsible for both.
I do good not because a higher power tells me to, but because I recognize it as being good and I avoid doing bad not because it is prohibited by god, but because I know that doing bad will lead to negative outcomes for me and the people around me.
I understand that some people need to lean on the idea of a higher power to do the same, but that doesn't equate to evidence of that higher power existing to me, it just shows me that some people benefit from the idea that someone knows what they are doing at all times and that this hampers their bad inclinations.
>>938913203
Go back to /pol/.
>>938913263
>>938913348
I was never molested nor did I ever have a belief in god that was subverted by bad experiences, I just grew up without religious faith.

>>938913348
Can't be that bad, he hasn't started speaking Swedish... For now.
>>938913489
But are you Swedish? Do you like surströmming?

>>938913489
>I was never molested
proof?
>>938913548
kek

>>938913548
I'm Danish and I prefer pickled herring, but how does that relate to the rice harvest in Vietnam?

>>938913585
>proof?
How the hell would I prove that? That's like me demanding that you show me concrete evidence of your specific god existing.

>>938913606
Butterfly effect

>>938913743
Elaborate please. Also in order to provide credible evidence of me being Danish, rød grød med fløde.

>>938913489
Nothing about believing in god absolves people of their shitty actions. Only morons think that god or not.
Everyone has different reasons to do things, whether it be god or not doesn't matter to god.

From my understanding/point of view, believing in god is having eternal hope for the future. That no matter what happens, it will all work out even when times seem dark.

>>938913606
Oh shit, he has got Copenhagen Syndrome, that hasn't even been discovered yet.
Your real name is Cheng Xing Ping, your job is to harvest hundred tons of rice to the West for a nice clunk of pennies or your family starves to death.
You also have to sing this while planting and harvesting the rice. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-LX7swcN-0

God must have a scat fetish because why else would he design every single living being the need to shit fat logs?

>>938913835
>From my understanding/point of view, believing in god is having eternal hope for the future. That no matter what happens, it will all work out even when times seem dark.
And from my perspective all you need to have hope is to look at the incremental success of humans throughout history in order to have hope and outside of us making ourselves go extinct in some major fuck up, we'll manage to solve any problems we come across or create, even when times are dark.

>>938913873
>Oh shit, he has got Copenhagen Syndrome, that hasn't even been discovered yet.
I'm from Jutland and not Swedish Congo, I don't have Copenhagen anything.
>Your real name is Cheng Xing Ping, your job is to harvest hundred tons of rice to the West for a nice clunk of pennies or your family starves to death.
>You also have to sing this while planting and harvesting the rice. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-LX7swcN-0 [Embed]
Nah, if I was to do a harvest of anything, I'd listen to this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZY6jC5Dh6c

Why does God have a scat fetish? An omnipotent being could easily design the universe without the need to shit.

>>938913959
Counter point>rape
>murder
>women
>addiction
>war
>nukes
And any combination of the above. There are to many humans with fucked up beliefs for me to be 100% humans can fix their own problems

>>938914059
So you don't even know your own capital, fake Dane.
>I'd listen to this
Very shitty version of Kinky Boots.
Your music taste is shit even for a Dane, more like some nigger immigrant pretending to be Danish.
Here is some Danish government approved listening.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jf1fkWKf3x8

>>938914112
>Why does God have a scat fetish? An omnipotent being could easily design the universe without the need to shit.
How would that work?

>>938914177
All of those things are obviously bad without a god telling me so, all of those things would be bad for me, so I wouldn't wish them on anyone else.
I accounted for it not being at a 100% hope by mentioning our extinction by fuck up, I'm at a 90% hope for humanity solving things based on our history.
>>938914282
>So you don't even know your own capital, fake Dane.
How did you arrive at that retarded take?
I know Copenhagen is the capitol of my country, that doesn't mean I have to like that fact.
>Very shitty version of Kinky Boots.
>Your music taste is shit even for a Dane, more like some nigger immigrant pretending to be Danish.
>Here is some Danish government approved listening.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jf1fkWKf3x8 [Embed]
Pis af anon, du bestemmer ikke hvilken slags fjollet musik jeg må lytte til.

Could you breed the most sinless human existence like an animal, like animal husbandry? Could you select traits like the smallest penis possible and the palest white skin and could it be considered our god on Earth?

>>938914402
>piss off anon, you don't decide what gay music I listen to
I just did

>>938914454
silly music, fjollet doesn't mean gay.

>>938914452
Go away schizo anon, you are a regular human.

>>938914486
In your case it does.

>>938914512
Such my dick then anon, since you are so hooked on me being gay.

>>938914357
Can you like imagine yourself not shitting?????????

>>938914357
by not needing to eat in the first place?
by having no intestinal system, or at least one that isn't a festering stink tube?
by making the process of eating 100%, creating no waste?
if humans were designed by an omnipotent, omniscient, omnibenevolent being, one wonders about the appendix getting jam packed with shit and exploding in people's bodies
so either God couldn't design us better, he didn't know better than to design us better, or he didn't care to design us better
or, the simplest explanation, we weren't designed at all

>>938914402
I can't predict the future, I thought I could in the past, so I can't have hope either way for humanity to survive and stop having rape gangs and so on.
What I can do is have faith in the lord, do the best I can and go to heaven.

>>938914402
Oh, and just because YOU know they are bad doesn't mean everyone else does.

>>938914501
Could you breed the most sinless human existence like an animal, like animal husbandry? Could you select traits like the smallest penis possible and the palest white skin and could it be considered our god on Earth?

>>938914544
If god has a scat fetish then that would explain it. So maybe theists are right about the existence of god.

>>938914540
I just said it once and you are already telling me to suck your dick without even buying me a drink first. I never seen such a raging homosexual

>>938914542
Not forever
>>938914544
Show me one form of life that doesn't feed
Tell me what plants would do without our poop. Think before you meme nigger

>>938914552
>What I can do is have faith in the lord, do the best I can and go to heaven.
That's fine and dandy anon, as long as you don't force me to believe the same to be there doing my best with you, without needing that sort of reward.
>>938914599
The people who can't figure it out for themselves are more than welcome to believe in god to reach the same way of acting anon, I wouldn't stop them from doing so if it meant that they turn into monsters from it.
>>938914619
Go away schizo anon.
>>938914652
Don't fret anon, I just said that to talk shit to you, I wouldn't even fuck you with the dick of another man.

>>938914665
>Show me one form of life that doesn't feed
i can't, which is why either God couldn't design us better, he didn't know better than to not design us better, or he didn't care to design us better
or, the simplest explanation, we weren't designed at all
not the sharpest tool in the shed, are you?

>>938914665
We could fertilize the plants with the corpses of our enemies
>>938914725
>wouldn't even fuck you with the dick of another man
What other man? Your boyfriend?

>>938914839
>What other man? Your boyfriend?
Nah, just a hypothetical other man who would fuck you, I wouldn't go out of my way to make that happen. So there is no need for you to be worried about that with me.

>>938914725
>>938914725
>reward
Not really a reward. You have to work for a reward.
The alternative is thinking I can solve the worlds problems, when it is up the world to do that.
God is a father. If your first father taught you to steal and kill, that is your first god, satan. If your firat father raised to to be kind then that is your first god and you got lucky.
People have freewill to do and think good or evil, whether they say they believe in god is irrelevant

>>938914839
>>938914912
Also, I am gratified that you took the effort to find a danish meme to post for me, that was really nice of you to do.

>>938914800
You are mad that there are rules of nature? Because you have to participate with the universe?
Think nigger think
>>938914839
How would they grow into enough fertilizer without needing to poop first?

>>938914921
My first and only father isn't satan or god anon, he is a human man who took an active and positive part in raising me alongside my mother.
What I was saying is that I can join you in doing my best to live a good life without making any assumptions about good or bad afterlives.

>>938915030
My my "rules of nature" why didn't I think of that? It's not like god could change that so you're right anon

>>938915030
>You are mad that there are rules of nature?
nope, just pointing out reality
if we were designed, it looks a lot more like we were designed by Ialdabaoth than by a 3x-omni creator
but the simplest explanation is that we weren't designed at all

>>938915055
He created you. Gave you life, food, shelter, education. Without him, you would be nothing. He gave you the gift of life.
The afterlife is real. The one in your mind and the corporeal one on earth.

>>938915055
>a human man who took an active and positive part in raising me alongside my mother
holy shit, how young WAS she

>>938914912
So you are making fake and empty threats? Why would that scare anyone?
>>938914958
I'm very nice like that when I feel sorry for people, sometimes I smile at people with downs so they think I am friendly.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-mOy8VUEBk
To me Danish sound like they have downs.
>>938915030
Not only poop can be used as fertilizer. If you chop down a plant or tree it fertilizes the soil, ash can also fertilize the soil. You are a big boy, I'm sure you can figure it out.

>>938915174
If you think you can control the fabric of time and space to create a single existence without the need for interaction go ahead
>>938915196
your argument is you think life should be possible without pooping. You haven't shown this to be true anywhere yet you demand it to be possible

>>938915197
I see no evidence of that being true and with all due respect, you'd have to provide me extraordinary evidence for me to believe that anon.
>>938915230
I'm pretty sure my mom was in her mid 20's when she had me, why are you assuming she was super young anon?
Are you mistaking my words as my dad raising my mom as well, instead of him raising me alongside her while they were adults or something?

>>938915291
We wouldn't be alive without tree poop retard

>>938915291
>To me Danish sound like they have downs.
That's very Swedish of you anon.

>>938915291
>So you are making fake and empty threats? >Why would that scare anyone?
I was bantering back at you anon, it's not my fault that you are overly serious.

>>938915329
>you think life should be possible without pooping.
you don't seem to understand the concept of omnipotence

>>938915351
Imagine what your life would be like if you never had a mother or father.
How would you be created? If you magically generated somewhere, how would you interact with the world? How would you learn right and wrong? Who would tell you otherwise?

>>938915329
You're right. It is impossible for an onmipotent being to create a universe without scat. The shit is just too powerful.

>>938915501
easy ask orphans lol

>>938915291
Also, that youtube video is related to befriending a Norwegian to me, once they feel comfortable around Danes they show them that admittedly hilarious sketch.
"Suddenly I realized that I had bought ten thousand liters of milk" a right knee slapper that is.

>>938915501
But anon, I did have breakfast.

>>938915487
you want the impossible and can't even provide a possibility
I did
>>938915509
Poop is the real gods this whole times!

>>938915351
i didn't mistake your words at all
you said what you said
perhaps you meant to say
>he is a human man who--alongside my mother--took an active and positive part in raising me
if you were married to English grammar, you'd be facing domestic violence charges right now

>>938915386
I manage just fine, you tree poop retard.
>>938915398
That is very everyone-who-is-not-Danish of me.
>>938915439
Yes I am as serious as the Joker, the Heath Ledger one plz.
>>938915552
Funny how they do that

>>938915653
English is my second language, sue me anon.

>>938915533
You mean the kids created by a man and a women, but then left to life in a world full of men and women that created society?
That doesn't answer the "random human generation" question

>>938915644
>you want the impossible
you don't seem to understand the concept of omnipotence

>>938915691
>That is very everyone-who-is-not-Danish of me.
Nah, most people who aren't Swedes don't know enough about Danes to be properly bigoted towards us, most people who aren't Swedes go "Danish? Isn't that something you eat?".
>Yes I am as serious as the Joker, the Heath Ledger one plz.
Really? You came across like the Jared Leto version.
>Funny how they do that
Danes and Norwegians make fun of each other while bonding over how Swedes are assholes, it's just a thing that is.

>>938915761
What is it?

>>938915829
>danish isn't that something you eat
I will never understand how you managed to make americans know your mediocre pastries and not your country.
I rather be Jared Leto in Lord of War.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28syOw5NDBg
>swedes are assholes
Finally we can agree on something

>>938916198
>Finally we can agree on something
It's always nice to bond with people about Swedes being assholes.
To me Jared Leto is a shitty version of Nick Cage, he too plays himself acting like he is someone else, only he's up his own ass about it.
The funny thing is that Danishes are called Wienerbrød in danish, which translates to Vienna bread.

>>938916293
Norwegians and Swedes also have wienerbrød.
You are not that as special as you may think, it's only retarded American who call it danishes, because they don't know it's winnerbread.

>>938916428
>Norwegians and Swedes also have wienerbrød.
I know.
>You are not that as special as you may think
I don't think that I am particularly special at all.
>it's only retarded American who call it danishes, because they don't know it's winnerbread.
Winnerbread, kek that sounds like a Trumpism, I like it.

>>938909308 (OP)
This is an obvious logfag thread so all of you are gullible. Religious threads are such a total waste of time.

>>938916293
Nicolas Cage is a national treasure, take it back!
>>938916516
I think you are very special anon, special needs

>>938916762
>Nicolas Cage is a national treasure, take it back!
I was handing him love anon, when he play himself pretending to be someone else it's great. When Jared Leto does it it comes across as pretentious and self congratulatory.
>I think you are very special anon, special needs
With all of the love you deserve, fuck you too anon.

>>938916746
that's because god is not real and religious people are retarded

>>938909308 (OP)
>gullible?
>a magic sky wizard did it
lol

>>938912884
God supposedly killed everyone on earth because they were wicked and starts repopulation with the same stock (Noah and his family) that he killed.

>>938916746
4chan is a total waste of time

>>938917304
Not only that, he killed most people because they weren't following the rules that he hadn't given them yet, which makes his genocidal flood extra evil.

>>938917352
>4chan is a total waste of time

>>938917304
>>938917362

God killed everyone in Sodom and Gommorah for being extremely wicked...except for the guy who said a mob could rape his daughters so long as they left his house guests alone.

>>938917386
Wrong

>>938915761
What is it?

>>938917424
Yeah and he apparently killed his wife and the rest of the pantheon that he used to be a part of too.
>>938917437
You lost the game?

>>938917479
>the game
What game?

>>938917557
The game.

>>938917569
qrd?

We could've had have this, but God is not kind and loving.

>>938917424
This loving god really enjoys killing things.

This post is sussy

>>938917754
Tbf Amerimutts love killing things too

>>938917799
You actually think this is a clever comeback?

>>938917754
He sent bears down out of the mountains to rip 42 kids to pieces for making fun of his favourite prophet (Ezekiel) for being a baldy.
So yeah...big fan of gratuitous slaying.

>>938917615
How do you titillate an ocelot?
You oscillate your tits a lot.

>>938917915
yes

>>938917919
Did the bear eat them though? I need to know whether or not the bible has vore fot my gooning sess

>>938918129
>muslim
>furfag
What is it with this new combo spreading so much?

Me when I see the demigod of chaos>>938918153

>>938918199
Please stop replying to yourself anon to farm browniepoints. It's embarassing

>>938918268
Eww, thats what you niggers do here?

>>938918268
Shut up newfag furry nigger

Ahhggggg I'm burning in hell and it's so hot and painful. I should have been spending my life worshipping the god that niggerfart on 4chan told me is real instead of sinning so much. Please help me!

>>938918307
>>938918342
Still replying to yourself?

because athiests are gay and stupoid

>>938909863
this is what true mental retardation looks like, kids

>>938918474
>and stupoid
Behold, a theist!

>>938918413
Too late you already outed yourself as a newfag
You get nothing

Ahhggggg I'm freezing in heaven and it's so cold and painful. I should have been spending my life hating the god that niggerfart on 4chan told me is real instead of sharing the gospel so much. Please help me!

I just want Satanic gospel to be a thing to balance out Christian metal.

>>938909308 (OP)
I'll provide an observation.
For decades 'fashion' was just middle aged marketing men with advertising budgets.
The more atheist someone is, the more they follow the prompts.

>>938918742
Could you share that observation in a way that makes sense?

>>938918772
Makes sense to me, what's your problem?

>>938918840
Of course it makes sense to you, you knew what you meant when you posted it.
How does fashion that was marketed by middle aged marketing men with advertising budgets, make people are more atheist follow prompts?

>>938918983
I'm not the guy that posted it. What is your problem?

>>938919041
A lack of understanding of what he meant by saying what he said.

>>938919066
What parts are you struggling with?

>>938919194
All of his post really.

>>938918381
And to think this horrific place was conceived of and created by a 'kind, merciful, and loving god'. The mind boggles.

>>938909308 (OP)
gimmicks and sticks

>>938923161
If the person were to say 'the bible is fake' I agree

>>938909308 (OP)
>this is somehow less believable than a jewish deity creating a man out of some dirt and taking one of his ribs to make a woman who somehow lead to 7 billion people
you are retarded.

>>938926360
>I praise you because I am fearfully and wonderfully made; your works are wonderful, I know that full well.

>>938923161
That's because there is MORE evidence of God than there is of Evolution! You're just to stupid to open your eyes because you're afraid of what you might actually see! FYI, what if God used your so called evolution to create man??? Maybe God set off the big bang to create the universe? SO stupid, you can't see past your nose!

>>938911580
social sciences make up shit all the time - econ student

>>938909547
So god couldn't turn a man into a woman if he wanted to, god is powerless over gender constructs?

>>938910275
Big bang isn't atheist, it was made by priests to reinforce their monad worldview.

>>938926732
They don't believe it enough

>>938926731
>MORE evidence of God
Which god?
Hindu miracles outnumber abrahamic miracles 10 to 1.
Are you admitting to being a street shitting cow worshiper?

>>938926917
>it was made by priests to reinforce their monad worldview.
Ah, no. It was made by scientists based on observations. The term "big bang" was one of derision invented by other scientists who believed in the "steady state" model of the universe.
Priests did recognize it as being consistent with their theological beliefs, but it was scientists like Edwin Hubble that came up with it.

>>938909308 (OP)
Because their faith is dead, they try to live by their words but really it's just words, empty words.

>>938909308 (OP)
Yeah, I know. The cosmos was clearly created by a flying magical sky wizard.

Fuck all that ignorant science shit. Bronze age Jews from 2000 years ago taught everything we need to know.

>>938928769
If we didn't have secular intelligent people carrying society for these bronze age primitive Christians; you bet your ass they'd be shitting in the street without internal plumbing, living in mud huts, and eating bugs.

And personally, I say let them do it.

We need to give the fundamentalists their own state and wall that motherfucker off. Let them go back to the fucking stone age like they want. I'm sick of carrying civilization for those dumb motherfuckers only to get their knives in my back for it.

Christ cattle are honorless ignorant slime and they do not belong amongst civilzed people. Given how radically they're trying to implement their religion into law, we need to stop handling these destructive chimps with kids gloves.

>>938909308 (OP)
We didn't vote for Trump, you did.

>>938930603
>it was scientists like Edwin Hubble
No, expanding universe and big bang are two different things, Georges Lemaître the priest came up with big bang theory saying the expansion had to have a singular origin point.

>>938930747
Amish already did that and they have a much better quality of life than you will.

>>938930747
>bronze age
>Christians
You need to study up on your history, friend. Christianity came long after the bronze age by many centuries.

>>938930842
Based on observation of the universe. Hubble fleshed it out and provided a lot more data in support.
But it doesn't really matter who it was that came up with it, what matters is that it was based on observation and then predictions about it were supported with data.
Your argument is a "genetic fallacy"

>>938930932
No, nobody has ever measured Lemaître's "primeval atom", the only thing they have confirmed through observation is redshift.

You are still just conflating expanding universe with big bang, they are not the same thing, I am not dismissing it simply because I don't like the source, I am dismissing it because singularities have never actually been observed as you claim, being an atheist has nothing to do with believing in singularities that priest came up with to validate their monad obsession.

>>938931041
No anon. The expanding universe suggests a big bag. And the "big bang" was later confirmed with observation of predicted phenomena.

>>938931103
>bag
bang

>>938931103
>The expanding universe suggests a big bag
No, not necessarily, and there are also alternative ways to explain redshift other than infinitely expanding universe.

>And the "big bang" was later confirmed with observation of predicted phenomena.
No, singularities have not been observed nor measured, they are simply mathematical projections regarding diverging calculations.

>>938931103
JWST debunked many of the assumptions as well since there are numerous distant old galaxies that would be impossible under big bang cosmology.

if god made humans who made god? if god always existed then why the universe cannot?

>>938931180
>>938931203
The universe itself keeps on expanding and expanding, in all of the directions it can whiz

>>938931242
That isn't big bang it is eternal inflation, big bang says that its not an eternal expansion because there was a very hot dense singularity from which everything expanded from a few billion years ago.

>>938931297
As fast as it can go, that’s the speed of light, you know,
Twelve million miles a minute and that’s the fastest speed there is.

>>938931457
That isn't big bang, big bang is the theory that all that expansion started from one point, not just that the current universe is in a state of expansion.

>>938931541
So remember, when you're feeling very small and insecure,
How amazingly unlikely is your birth;

>>938931584
So remember, when you are trying to make a false claim, just change the subject when you are called out and hope everyone forgets how retarded and wrong you are.

>>938931664
I got the tism, you got the tardism.

>>938909308 (OP)
You tell em. I didn't evolve from no damn monkey or no damn fish. If fish evolved into monkeys and monkeys evolved into people then why are there monkeys and fish? When was the last time you saw a human evolve and grow a pair of wings? Huh? That's right, never.

>>938932702
Your mom was retarded yet here you are with a highly evolved retardation even though your mom is still retarded too.

>>938911727
>thier

>>938936081
Atheists never make typos

>>938909308 (OP)
>Believes when you die, you magically transport to another body in another dimension where you get pushed into a pit of lava because of all the times you jacked off.

>>938910145
god doesn't exist retard.

>>938910275
>Has no evidence of how to universe began from their own religion.
>Claims atheists have evidence of how the universe began, when they don't.
>Demands evidence of how the universe began from atheists.

>>938909308 (OP)
Google "na'aseh v'nishma" retard. The root of all religions require it. Do first. Don't ask too many questions.

Who is the gullible one, again?

>>938912109
>>Belief is a human condition.

No, that's a learned practice. You dont pop out of a a vagina believing in a god. People tell you that shit.

>>938938215
Define "instinct".

>>938909308 (OP)
God's plan: Hitler, Pol Pot, Stalin, Mao, Kim Il Sung, The black death, Polio, Smallpox, Aids, Influenza pandemic, The Haiti earthquake, The Indian ocean tsunami, Timothy Mcveigh, Columbine.

Man, atheists are gullible.

>>938938314
>The Haiti earthquake
God is based.

>>938938215
In the absence of a religion, people make on up. It is human nature

>>938909308 (OP)
I wonder what gods the tribe on North Sentinel Island have created? They haven’t been polluted with religious proselytizing so it would be their own OC.

>>938910917
>we believe
You don't speak for us, you delusional fucking faggot.

>>938939520
Agree with it or not, atheists share core beliefs. If you disagree then you are not a true atheist

>>938939774
>atheists share core beliefs
Only a lack of belief in any God(s) is shared, retard; Atheists are about as similar to each other as humans are to other humans.

>>938939900
You know that means you have a lot in common right?

>>938940042
>You know that means you have a lot in common right?
With other humans? Yes. That doesn't mean that every human is the same, though.

>>938940273
Every human can experience the exact same thing flatearther

>>938938341
why did he create brownoids?

>>938940426
>Every human can experience the exact same thing flatearther
Not if they're brain-dead, sufficiently low-IQ, have some type of disability...

>>938940540
>why did he create brownoids?
I don't believe that he did nor that he exists.

>>938940543
Even more so true, they juat have a harder time explaining it to you, because you think you know everything

>>938940686
>they juat have a harder time explaining it to you, because you think you know everything
You're telling me that picrel can experience the same things that Newton did.

>>938940795
Emotions? Yes
Thought? I don't know.
That would make them the exception to the rule that proves the rule

>>938934017
When was the last time you saw a human mutate and grow wings or a beak? Faggot.

>>938940970
>Emotions? Yes
Emotions are governed by the same regions in the brain as cognition, and cognition also influences emotion.
>the exception to the rule that proves the rule
Any exception to a rule disproves that rule.

>>938909308 (OP)
Most atheists aren’t deep thinkers, they’re just normie raised on pop culture.

>>938941294
Evolution is just descent with modification and selection. Why would humans grow wings out of nowhere? They would need some incredibly costly mutations and would likely become unfit way before those mutations would start to provide any reproductive advantage.
Could you explain to me what caused you to believe that evolution would dictate that humans should suddenly grow wings?
>>938941393
>Most atheists aren’t deep thinkers, they’re just normie raised on pop culture.
Yes?

>>938941325
You don't understand what "exception to the rule that proves the rule" means
If what you're telling me is true that if they can feel then they can think, then yes they can feel everything you can.

>>938941781
>You don't understand what "exception to the rule that proves the rule" means
Yes, I do, and it's incorrect.
>>938941781
>If what you're telling me is true that if they can feel then they can think, then yes they can feel everything you can.
I was writing that both cognition and emotion are inextricably linked; They have lower cognitive ability therefore they have lower emotional ability.

>>938942127
So do you agree that they are humans and can think and feel like humans do?

>>938942333
No, they're brain dead flesh muppets, your god doesn't exist, and you're a fucking retard.

>>938942406
>They have lower cognitive ability therefore they have lower emotional ability.
>they're brain dead flesh muppets,
Make up your mind you angery brownie boy

>>938942333
>So do you agree that they are humans
Yes.
>and can think and feel like humans do?
Of course there's some level of similarity to other humans, but that doesn't mean that they're on the same cognitive/emotional level as other humans.
>>938942560
>Make up your mind you angery brownie boy
Otherfag

>>938942934
>same cognitive/emotional level as other humans.
That was never the discussion. Every squirrel is different from another, but at the end of the day they are all still squirrels