Thread 23049744

Make your own music. You can do it. It doesn't cost any money to start unlike many hobbies. And anybody can do it. You might not like it or stick with it but with free trackers and sequencers up the wazoo and cheap devices, why not try? Globohomo is taking out high interest loans to fund Cowboy Carter, what are you doing?

>btw this guy invented the thing that allowed easy sequencing for both the instrument player and computer geek alike
>all genres took to it like ducks to water and everybody used it for a long time
>works WITH your computer sequencer with the easy exchange of MIDI information

Music is played by instruments, not made on a computer.
Digital "music" is an abomination.
Anything past vinyl recording of folk music is a mistake.

>>23049746
Shut it faggot. You wouldn't know real music if it hit you in the face.

>>23049744 (OP)
>Make your own music
i've been doing that since 2008.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9NdjBhhCQI

I just listen to phish and boz scaggs

>>23049744 (OP)
wat is some of that equpment and what function does it serve?

>>23049750
Synths, samplers, drum machines, mixers, and audio interfaces.

>>23049748
based

>>23049749
last night i listened to herbie hancock's head hunters

>do do do doo doodle doo
>doo doodle dooooo

you know what i mean

>>23049744 (OP)
Based

the big grey box is my jam rn

then the little purple pearl finish box

then the deep purple box

>>23049752
You might like The Motet

I thought today was Friday maybe i drank too much this week

>>23049745
Ok, I'll bite.
Suppose someone had some sheet music and wanted to turn it into a MIDI file, then change instrumentation, then put the whole thing on a cell phone app that did not jew people with ads and data mining, or require internet access to work.

Now, suppose this someone was both musically and computer-ally illiterate.

What do?

>>23049755
What's that?

>>23049758
The Motet is an American funk, soul and jazz influenced group based in Denver, Colorado.

>>23049744 (OP)
make sure you drop 400-1k on a tempered piano/88 key synth or guitar tho, you need a tempered instrument to learn

How does my mix sound?

https://voca.ro/1lyXAJYZMhZN

>>23049759
Do subhuman trannies live in your head rent free you should charge them btw

>>23049757
>Suppose someone had some sheet music and wanted to turn it into a MIDI file, then change instrumentation, then put the whole thing on a cell phone app that did not jew people with ads and data mining, or require internet access to work.
Yes.

>Now, suppose this someone was both musically and computer-ally illiterate.
Put some effort into learning how to use sheet music OCR programs and downloading the FREE sheet music from archive.org and plugging that in. If you're actually not literate at all why and how are you here, who put you here?

Anyway you're on you're own, kiddo.

>>23049744 (OP)
how do you like the minilogue xd? i was looking at prologue because i need more voices
>>23049746
ok gramps

>>23049763
check'd

>>23049744 (OP)
Why don't you listen to actual music, instead of popular garbage and your own half-assed slop?

>>23049760
I liked Lee Ritenaur's On The Line, it's just super highly engineered. I got that one recently.

>>23049746
Based. Electroonic "music" is just an earlier form of AI music. It's lazy shite with no skill.
Grab a fuckin guitar or piano

>>23049767
I do but I like making half assed slop. I'm not pretending I'm Autechre here with my 129th/87th time signatures and shit in several alternate tunings.

>>23049769
>>23049767
you don't know anything about music

>>23049757
If it’s classical the midi file likely exists already then you need a sound font or synthesizer then the midi file will play any midi instrument you have making a near infinite amounts of possible sounds

>>23049747
Learn an instrument and you'll find that I am right.
You are in denial about your lack of confidence in practicing something that actually requires skill.
Pressing buttons and uploading it to software is not "making music".

>>23049764
>who put you here?
God.

>OpenOMR.
I'll start there.

>>23049772
>sound font or synthesizer
Thanks, leaf.
Knowing what you don't know is half the battle!

I actually made some original traditional Swiss folk music

https://vocaroo.com/1nL0Uc93Y8Yu

>>23049772
Back in the day I had east west symphonic orchestral librariers and a couple others in kontakt. You can find all kinds of midi tracks online for movie/video game soundtracks. You can learn a lot about production/mixing by making your own renditions. Once you realize how everything works then you can change the composition and make it your own or better yet start from scratch.

>how do you like the minilogue xd?
It's nice, it's a pretty decent analog 2-voice synth with some flexible options, but the unique capability of user-defined c-language-esque infinitely upgradable oscillators and filters and effects.

It's really an amazing thing as is the Drumlogue, it's just a nice decent analog thing with an extra computer voice and effects capability up to the limit of the DSP. Will become valuable in the future for sure. And already I upgraded my Drumlogue with some duder's FM voice thing so you can get those classic Yamaha '80s drum machine noises.

>>23049773
you are retarded

>>23049770
I make my own stuff too, but I write it down on sheet/software and I study scores. But when it comes to listening, I'd rather listen to genius classical composers than any form of meaningless modern music
>>23049771
To the contrary, I know more about it than anyone ITT.

>>23049771
>Left click couple times
>Music is generated by AI

>Press a few buttons and knobs
>Generate a loop
>Payed a couple synths
>No consideration to intention, tone, dynamics, articulation.
>Done
Tell me how electr00nic music is any diffetfron AI slop?

>>23049773
>Pressing buttons and uploading it to software is not "making music"
You do know the majority of music made at least in the last 20 years, even with pianos and guitars was made with computers and pushing buttons right?

>the midi files already exist
this is the based thing

midi files and a usb floppy interface and pic related and you're set for life

>>23049781
You mean when all popular music universally started to completely suck dick?

>>23049744 (OP)
yea im not doing all that when i can make a song with a single prompt

>>23049775
sounds dope as fuck ain't gonna lie. Just needs a good mix. I feel like if this was playing in the background and I was walking down the dirt road town square in a third world country I'd be pick pocketed by some sand nigger children.

>>23049781
That's why "new" rock music is dead. It's all DAW bullshit. Rock died in the 70's.
>>23049779
Based. I'm more of a Schubert man myself. So much music theory, knowledge of many instruments and skill is needed to create. It is truly 100% white

>>23049769
>Based. Electroonic "music" is just an earlier form of AI music. It's lazy shite with no skill.

100% you are non-white and low iq. Electronic music is the white man's music due to it's complexity, it is not about playing notes fast like a lame "technical" guitar player like Satriani. Electronic music is about the sound texture itself, not just the notes, synthesizer sounds that are crafted by hand to emit a certain feeling, you will never understand Sukdeep rapajeet

>>23049783
It always sucked though

>>23049744 (OP)
Come on you Earthfags, listen to, and be abducted by sound.
https://youtube.com/@burlapthong?si=bV9R94YX5JCf2ijl

>>23049779
no you don't
>>23049780
>Press a few buttons and knobs
>Generate a loop
>Payed a couple synths
>No consideration to intention, tone, dynamics, articulation.
>Done
then don't do that you nigger. electronic music can be anything

>>23049786
>I'm more of a Schubert man myself.
Schubert's late sonatas and chamber music is what I live for.

>>23049783
>pop music sucks now
fucking kek

>>23049786
>rock died in the 70s
>greatest rock and roll band formed in the 80s and is still touring

>>23049787
>sound texture
Lazy. No wonder music fell off, people rather watch gaming on twitch.tv.
Fuck harmony, melody and orchestration am I right?
Timbre is pure gimmick

>>23049788
>>23049792
Pink Floyd and Metallica are pop music in this context btw

>>23049790
>no you don't
Yeah, I do. I little experience from professionals, and mostly self taught. Anyone taking electronic music seriously has poor understanding of music.
>>23049795
They are. And they both suck.

>>23049795
Metallica is pop music in any context

>>23049786
I've come to the same conclusion. If I can't make it with the instruments I have in physical space, then it doesn't exist to me. No grid, no vst, no autotune, just the best musicianship and songwriting I can muster in LIVE recordings.

>>23049796
>Yeah, I do. I little experience from professionals, and mostly self taught
kek
>Anyone taking electronic music seriously has poor understanding of music.
you're the one who has poor understanding of music. electronic music can be anything

>>23049744 (OP)
soundcloud enjoyers know that self made non-endorsed music is the best

>>23049773
>Pressing buttons and uploading it to software is not "making music".
its not the original way of making music, but it is music

>>23049748
Is this parody? It's like you're doing a Trey Parker impression.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=851BqHMCaeM&t=22s&pp=2AEWkAIB

>>23049796
https://vocaroo.com/1lfCnM5hH7ME

here's my Schubert

>>23049794
>Timbre is pure gimmick

Even on a basic sounding instrument like Piano there are many flavors of texture that are hand-crafted. Synthesizers is that but a million times more complex

>>23049796
Both of you are snobby cucks, nobody cares you spent 10,000 hours studying boring as sheet music and "put in the work", you will never create any song that speaks to white people such as this, white people right now are not in the mood for soft-pussy elevator music, dumb nigger

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crinVJzldsQ

>>23049798
yeah i'm also not a big fan of working in daw. i try to play everything myself or get other musicians if i don't play that instrument

>>23049799
Repeating the same nonsense won't make it true. Electronic "music" is nothing serious, even Stockhausen is formally a mess, boring and fails to deliver. Listen to more music, and study music, then we can talk.

>>23049798
>as opposed to the un LIVE recordings every recording engineer does before he mixes it

>>23049746
Everyone who says this isn't even into music. I don't know a single musician who isn't into electronic music of some type.
>>23049750
Also just so you know, gear is cool, but you don't need any of it. All you need is a DAW (ableton, fl studio, logic, etc.). A modern DAW does everything that all of that gear in picrel does (except the interface, but you don't need that yet). Not hard to a DAW for free btw if you know what I mean.
>>23049769
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMC1UqmbGHw
>>23049786
>That's why "new" rock music is dead. It's all DAW bullshit.
Yeah man it's totally not that the jews who own the industry intentionally destroyed the genre. Some new fangled thing called a computer came out and people forgot how to play the guitar I tell you what!!!!
>Rock died in the 70's
This is how I know you're retarded and don't play an instrument btw. Most 70s rock (unless you're talking about prog) is equivalently low effort as programming a synth in a DAW. Rock isn't even dead btw, you brain dead boomers just don't know where to look for music outside of the radio. Been to multiple packed out rock shows this past year.

>>23049802
Awful.
>>23049803
You are a braindead with dementia

>>23049744 (OP)
>It doesn't cost any money to start unlike many hobbies.
Topkek.

>>23049805
>Listen to more music, and study music
ditto little bro. nobody likes snobs, especially when they're stupid

>>23049801
Are you doing a fag impression? It's really good.

Good evening/day frens. It's time for some good music.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wobxiik9z2s

>>23049810
Yawn. I'm not here to inspire you or whatever, take the redpill or remain retarded, not my problem.

Bros can someone please tell me the name of this song? Its saxophones and then piano the hook goes like this
https://voca.ro/11K3hlnGwHc8
I used to know it and the name is escaping me and search engines are failing. I think it has basically a throwaway title with a number in it.

Non whites seethe at Enya's music.

https://youtu.be/Wkk0puI6NfA?si=Fl7nAcX0l7XiczLr

>>23049807
I have a korg oriental arranger keyboard that is the greatest investment I ever made for mine and my neighbors sake.
https://vocaroo.com/116ZJoxFGXwU

>>23049806
I just mean "fixing" things in post. I thought that would be obvious when I mentioned things like the grid and autotune.

>>23049773
>Learn an instrument and you'll find that I am right.
I know how to play two analog instruments you mongoloid.
Either way, you need to know much more about theory and sound design to produce good much through DAW or synthesizer. It isn't as simple as pressing random buttons on a computer to create good music. Please try and download Reaper and make a song for me right now.

Someone please help. I would think this would be easier to find because I know its been in movies and shows and shit but I can't find the song >>23049815

>>23049807
*yt link here meant for >>23049757

>>23049814
you type like a sub 80 iq subhuman

>>23049744 (OP)
I mean it's alright
https://youtube.com/shorts/EeabFe2GxgA?feature=shared

>>23049808
I am your objective superior since I have posted my works. Even if you spent every last minute left of your life disseminating the genius of baroque music (schubert was already mostly romantic era which is the classical music version of derivative pop garbage), your opinion still wouldn't matter until you showed your own works which is the only way you will ever prove to me you speak the language of music and aren't the mimic hylic you're currently presenting yourself as.

>>23049817
Groovy, I like that little plucky top line with the delay. Feels like a beat em up game chinatown level or something.

>equipment worth thousands just to churn out the same shitty wub wub every other teenager "produced" in a cracked fruity loops 20 years ago
Watch out we got another Stockhausen ova here!

>>23049818
Well if you're fixing shit in post that just makes you bad at your job. It's not the computer's fault you don't know how to mic a drum-kit without introducing phase cancellation. I'm not a fan of autotune myself if it's used to fix a bad performance/recording but the longer you record or mix music you discover all these tools at your disposal actually have more than one use.

Listen to classical music to make yourself smarter and more cultured.

>>23049826
fuck you nigger, it's good to have hobbies outside of doom-posting here

>>23049767
because creating is better for your soul consuming

>>23049824
>if you're not a chef, you can't judge the food
Your argument is logically flawed, and I can't be intimidated into posting music, there's enough great music out there as it is
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lzfHCOv6r4
>>23049828
Or just to enjoy the music to its fullest potential.

>>23049831
Its even worse bro, you're watching other people eat it and describe the taste to you. No shit you can't judge it.

>>23049831
You don't post your music here because you don't create. You spent 10,000+ hours learning some gypsy instrument so you can play at weddings and other social events, traditional songs. Hey that's good for you, but some people like to take chances and create music that emits a different frequency than Georgian gypsy music

>>23049829
>his hobby is fondling knobs

>>23049757
>cell phone app that
>did not jew people with ads and data mining, or require internet access to work
that is a paradox my friend

just buy a cheap laptop and install windows 10 (it has the proper drivers, windowses before it needed an external soundcard with drivers to get low latency THIS IS ESSENTIAL) and reaper which for all intents and purposes can be used for free until you have the money to pay for it

there are free soundfont players like sforzando, and other free vst instruments e.g. used by people to make dungeonsynth music (which is kinda classical)

good luck

I make my own music with Suno. It is now better than 90% of manmade slop out there.

I wanna go back
https://youtu.be/mdOFwuN8Nb0?si=yaU9iaB8SOQb0S8O

>>23049760
Motet has some gay ass lyrics from their new female black singer. Band is good but they just got a token black singer like all white r&b bands do try to seem cool

There’s literally no good new music out it’s all nepo baby shit. But Herbie Hancock is definitely based. 70’s Robert Palmer is good. Weather Report - Black Market album. The Meters

>>23049744 (OP)
Because using a synthesizer on my computer makes it violently shake and lose power. Plus nobody likes my catchy songs.

>>23049757
Garage band for iOS does all of that.

Writing scores is easier on the real version for Mac & iPad. It’s free but only runs on iPhones (since Android is trash). iPhones are cheap tho

>>23049839
>There’s literally no good new music out
You guys just need to learn where to look. What's your favorite genre? I'll find you something new and good in <5 minutes.

All you uppity faggots saying that modern music isn't good clearly haven't heard this song
https://youtube.com/watch?v=aHZHyRmv75M
Shut your arrogant mouths unless you've been initiated into this modern wagnerian epic

I make nigger beats for niggas to rap to. I just really like the 808s

Did acid and watched some really good bluegrass show last night

for me its 8hrs brown noise just like my skin

>>23049844
I like making nigger beats to rap about how much I hate niggers and jews to.

>>23049744 (OP)
hello fellow fs1r lover. Get the editor and you won't need that manual and algo sheet anymore!

>>23049769
This is literally the worst take I've ever seen and its made possible in order to call people lazy that have fun. Never mind the fact that it requires sentience to do that, mr ai killjoy faggot lmao

Been using the new MACE this week. The text to audio feature is godly and exactly what AI based instruments should be. Getting the weirdest sounds and loops outta this shit

>>23049744 (OP)
i already do, its totally unique in the world and I make a totally original music video using Signal Culture video tools to go with it, but I was shadowbanned on youtube because I used horror film footage so it got downrated on the algo. I went from hundreds of views to zero. I got bored and realized that molding my creativity to a faceless arbiter geared toward ad revenue maximization was a waste of time. No point putting it on any other video platform either. So I just keep doing it for myself, nobody gives a fuck.

>>23049745
akai means shitting for me

>>23049826
>>23049826
I am actually doing formant synthesis with the FS1R, tis my new autism. Also that BASSedSTATION there is key and it was only $100 shipped.

>>23049744 (OP)
Already do.
https://vocaroo.com/1am50ggfL1kD

>>23049848
Yeah there are a couple. There is one now where you can break down a sample into formants and automagically synthesize a patch. It works pretty well actually. My MPC can act as a MIDI control surface too so I use that with the FS1R to control the format playback in real time. It's nice. I can poke at the screen or use knobs or both.

>>23049744 (OP)
Nah, just steal music pretend it's your own.
Vaporwave is dead.

>>23049746
kek, so when I play a VST of an actual instrument recorded by Kontakt via MIDI keyboard are you going to claim the piano (the best universal instrument) is not real music? If I record the analog sounds of my older Casio through a mic does it suddenly become real then? dumbass boomer

>>23049744 (OP)
I can't make my own music, anon. I am at rock bottom. I can only listen to schizophrenia midi shitposting from soundcloud, or industrial noise filled with women's screaming.
I can't replicate that. Not now.

>>23049744 (OP)
>It doesn't cost any money
I got a Stylophone genx, a beat maker and an Akai mini play. I want to record, what the best low cost option? I have a laptop from 2015, I never really used it. What is a good interface?

>>23049766
phaggit

>>23049858
Thred theme:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGHVE7BTW-o

>>23049744 (OP)
>Make your own music
I was doing that for a while after I quit programming and was very good at it, but had to stop due to gradually worsening tinnitus and hearing loss. I rarely even listen to music anymore, everything sounds like it's screaming in my ears if the volume is the tiniest bit above barely audible.

>>23049814
Here, GeorgiaBro. Boston 1960s. Cynara. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sn4jLhl8P4g&list=OLAK5uy_k9HMtS9dh2MpSN6Nhd08ypes9WW7N1nLs&index=3

>>23049856
>Vaporwave is the only genre that has been or ever will be
Wow I didn't no that

>>23049862
https://youtu.be/xgYHKUV6aeo
Moldovian Pete Tong

>>23049769
>Le old timey boomer insturments

this is the last song I made. I was going for something in the beginning, but it needed something more to be interesting. it gets decent after a minute or so

https://youtu.be/6GOEyk2u2Ms

>>23049744 (OP)
doesnt cost any money but you post all these machines. are you saying that i should be a good nigger and go looting all of this?

this might be 5k and i will stick to my fruityloops.

EY BRO IT COSTS TOTALLY NOTHING JUST A SMALL AMOUNT OF 800 GOLDCOINS FOR ONE MPC.
i bet all your music sounds like shit, this is always what happens when some guy posts all his useless machines and gimmicks instead of posting his music..............................

you could make good music with just one mpc and a laptopt. you dont need 10 other machines.
youre like these retarded stoners that build joints with 10 papers.

even fruityloops is enough.
>these are all my machines for le music
when i saw deadmau5 studio i knew he was a fucking trust fund baby having these giant machines in his basement but never sold a record before ghosts n stuff...

Has 4chan ever made a better album?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKJIQBCVpD8

>>23049869
>ou could make good music with just one mpc and a laptopt.
You can make good music with just a laptop. You can make good music with just a GameBoy. You can make good music with a piece of paper and a pencil. Having a bunch of responsive physical things to make music with is just more fun.

>>23049871
nah i came to figure out that the sync-flow is far superior with the mpc thats why i always wanted to have one. buddy of mine has all this equipment but his music is shitty and he doesnt care.
working on a computer doesnt work the same way.

>>23049744 (OP)
Anyone wanna hear a song I finished tonight?
COOL FRIEND | Overflow
>https://voca.ro/1eQNlWuWjlLr

Real funny, What's the joke?
I'm feeling like I could choke
You know, They warned us when we were young -Life sucks and then you're done.
Your youth Is in the wind
And it's worn down your skin
I am The ruler of my house
But I'm still cleaning up the mouse
In the basement Where the water
Always seems to get in
There's no more plugging it
It's crumbling And we're sinking in
The toilet Of our culture
Overflows piss and shit
It seems the future isn’t ours
it gets further every hour

Let’s toast To the ruins of a world that you remember But no longer exists.

Let’s go You should smoke ‘em if you’ve got ‘em. Keep the lights on the dash down low.

Go, go, go...

Simulate a fantasy
You and me
Somewhere we're free
We'll have that house
You'll wear that dress
Maybe the kids Are off to bed
And left a mess

That prompt goes against my terms
When will you learn?
You're here to burn.
I understand your concerns
You're here to burn
When will you learn?

You're such a good boy
You haven't a choice
We're the destroyer
You are the loser
Bio computers
HEY! You're just a house goy
Future: unemployed
Having some children
Just to release them
Into our control
We'll harvest their souls
Dead little white boys
Schadenfreude
We are your führer
The third worlds your juror
Prepare for the horror

More COOL FRIEND
Actually, Indian.
https://youtu.be/Q4Z8GMhHaFQ
LP4 - COOL FRIENDS
https://youtu.be/zD54HBmpGXE

>>23049871
i doubt you can write a partiture, i doubt anyone here can do that. thats some bullshit. obviously these machines and computer programs are for musically illiterate people...

writing partitures is white people shit and it will be lost with the nigger onslaught
>UHHh BUM TSSCHAK BITCHES HOES HOES BITCHES

>>23049874
No they are not. I doubt anyone here knows closely how to master.

>>23049874
>i doubt you can write a partiture
There's a bunch of complicated conventions for how you're supposed to lay it out for professional quality, but ignoring that - if the goal is just to functionally capture all the details of the music using standard musical notation - I can absolutely do it. It's not that much different from using an oldschool tracker.

>>23049807
You're partly correct but I can't remember many catchy electronic songs that just come back without hearing the song. All those classic tunes were recorded with real instruments by a band. Some EDM songs make an exception but they were made by some Swedish or German genious who would have had much better success with real bands. Electronic musics lacks the soul and feeling of traditional composing. And people do prefer the sound of acoustic instruments over looped samples.

>>23049876
for mastering you need the expensive studio speakers...everything you do before that will sound like azz.

i just came to tell that you cant do shit without money.
where are all the awesome musicians writing awesome songs on a piece of paper...

THEY DONT FUCKING EXIST!

>>23049877
>i can do it, but not correctly
what?!

>>23049746
A composer doesn't actually play any orchestra instruments either. How's that any different?

here's a bunch of short ones I made
https://youtu.be/JhA1JdnUSc4
https://youtu.be/s57EDZ8KSiI
https://youtu.be/TWAmWGtyUuM
https://youtu.be/Z_W7yvun2kY

>>23049744 (OP)
OK, where exactly some good homemade black metal is posted these days? Bandcamp is total woke trash.

>>23049873
Bumpin myself for fresh tunes
COOL FRIEND | Overflow
>https://voca.ro/1eQNlWuWjlLr
https://voca.ro/1eQNlWuWjlLr
>https://voca.ro/1eQNlWuWjlLr

>>23049880
Whom are you quoting, retard? And why are you seething?

>>23049883
here >>23049867 but I never added vocals

>>23049879
Classical orchestra pieces were written on paper with a piano.
https://youtu.be/qOSaT6U4e-8

>>23049885
thats obvious, donkey.
anyway im proud of you moldovanon.
dont get killed by a ranom nigger.

>>23049879
>expensive studio speakers
Not necessary for like 15 years now. Any modern DAW and extensive knowledge can do.

>>23049887
free pianos in the link below

>>23049889
im not so sure about that because you need the wider hertz range of the speakers. i did some music, maybe im just wrong and youre right.

>>23049888
Not obvious to me. Who said anything about "incorrectly"? There's a ton of stuff you can do that's not technically incorrect, but also not the way you're "supposed" to do it. That's all.

>>23049884
>>23049889
I'ved used GarageBand on an iPad Pro for the 5 years I've been doing this. It all still kind of sounds like shit and it's a pain to get sounding good but as a one man operation it sounds way better than small independent productions sounded when I was a kid. It's actually amazing the tech we have available today.
>35 yo boomer.

>>23049884
No one likes you retard, even your mother will be happy if you eat that bullet. You are neither cool nor hot maybe pale and all your tracks are stale

>>23049879
you can stick million dollar monitors in an untreated room and your mixes/masters will probably sound inconsistent across multiple systems. So many hits were mixed on auratones and they sound like shit. You need acoustic treatment in your room, especially low end products like bass traps. You need to setup a reflection free zone (RFZ) at your listening position to eliminate early reflections that skew the response from your "expensive" speakers. If you can't hear what your mix sounds like without the room coloring the sound, your expensive speakers don't mean shit.

>>23049879
>for mastering you need the expensive studio speakers
wrong.
>you cant do shit without money.
wrong.
>where are all the awesome musicians
lurk moar
>>23049891
>you need the wider hertz range of the speakers
you need to know how to EQ, a skill that takes years to perfect

>>23049894
You okay fren? No hard feelings : )

Actually, Indian.
https://youtu.be/Q4Z8GMhHaFQ

>>23049756
wtf it's Monday already
where'd the past few days disappear

>>23049895
>thats a very untreated room
>why dont you have 50.000 to treat this room to make free music on a piece of paper???
its wonderful how this comes to what i said anyway.
sometimes i talk to people again and they just repeat what i said and sell it as their own idea. thats odd.

>>23049896
post your awesomeally mastered music bro

yes you can make shitty piece of paper music with your selfmade bongo as instrument. off course. you can make music humming or screaming, thats music too.

>>23049896
>the equalizer skills bro
god damn im talking to retards here. IT WAS MUSIC FOR FREE!

NO PIANO!
NO LAPTOP!
NO CONCERT HALL!
>You can do it. It doesn't cost any money to start unlike many hobbies.

all the music you fags make sounds like shit because none of you know how to mix a track

>>23049899
>you need EXPENSIVE MEGA GEAR bro
>no actually I already said the room is more important
kek
You can make bass traps from owens corning rigid fiberglass 703, 705 and wooden frames. You're wrong about the expensive gear part, now you're wrong about the treatment part. Lets see if he makes it 3 for 3.

>>23049793
You'll never get out of this maze

>>23049903
Have you ever considered that part of the charm of independent music is it sounding a little bit like shit? If everything sounded perfect and the corporate that would be boring.

Do you even like music?

>>23049904
off course you need the studio speakers to have the full hertz range anyone else trying to disprove me is a fucking amateur.
>my equalizer skills

>>23049903
I definitely don't, but I try to try

>>23049907
This anon is right. Simple as. Remember, most people have only listened to music through Bluetooth via shitty earbuds.

just make your piece of paper azz music with your selfmade bongo bro, this will totally not be a shitty waste of time.
>guitar is for free
>and so are pianos
very retarded posters^^

>>23049744 (OP)
I just finished practicing guitar

>>23049744 (OP)
I just listen to old 70s and 80s music.

There are a few modern metal bands I like though.

>>23049744 (OP)
Already on it chief, I make racist grindcore

>>23049911
Based. What do you play?
Mine's a Mexican Fender Strat I got for my 10th birthday 25 years ago, with some minor modifications made along the way. Could never bring myself to buy another electric. Nothing ever felt right.

>>23049909
it was just an asshole dangling all his super expensive equipment in front of our noses because people that actually do music want to have all of this, but most of the time someone who doesnt give a fuck about music has all this stuff. i dont know why our society is like this.

no one is where he belongs.

>>23049905
Phish is for homosexuals and Yankees.

a retard who doesnt give a fuck about music and cant read a partiture has 5k of equipment for music instead of giving it to someone that would actually do something with it.

this is our entire society. someone has 10 houses but he can only live in one. anyway i dont want to talk about this anymore.

nothing is for free, not even your death.

>>23049793
Phish had a good run. Now they play overpriced venues for redditor Yankees.

>>23049915
Ooof. You said it, brother.
>no one is where he belongs
Im stealing that line, btw.

>>23049919
Bumping the track I finished tonight
https://vocaroo.com/1eQNlWuWjlLr
>https://vocaroo.com/1eQNlWuWjlLr
https://vocaroo.com/1eQNlWuWjlLr
>https://vocaroo.com/1eQNlWuWjlLr

Lyrics
>>23049873

>>23049907
What's the point of an exaggerated frequency response if you can't hear it properly? If you're in a spot where there is a deep null you're going to add more bass because you falsely think too little is there, likewise if you're in a spot where there's a peak you'll add too little.
Your use of nomenclature is another red flag that lets me know you're larping. Small rooms, especially square shaped rooms are notorious for comb filtering. What you're hearing in an untreated room is a combination of the sound hitting the walls and coming back to you at nearly the same time as the sound directly from your speakers.
You can't EQ out comb filtering dumbass.

https://voca.ro/18kLUTFK8F44

>>23049914
I just started this year so I suck but I have a Yamaha Revstar in black.

>>23049922
Based. Stick with it. Guitar is actually stupid easy. You'll get great in no time.

i want to make dub-step. how much equipment do i need and what budget should i have

>>23049867
I knew it'd be this. I was on your channel like 2 days ago. Pick it back up.

>>23049909
which makes paying attention to phase correlation in your low end more important because smaller drivers are designed to exaggerate the bottom to make it seem like they are more capable of producing the full range than they actually are. The cheap gear today is miles ahead of the cheap shit and even a lot of the expensive shit they had in the 80s, the problem here is people that think you need expensive gear don't take the time to put what really matters into perspective.

You still see a lot of NS10s and mixcubes in studios today and they sound like garbage on their own. But they're able to make it work because they know how to set up the room, they're familiar with how they translate and the time domain response among some of these tried and true monitors is a much better indicator to go by than frequency response.

>>23049894
Absolutely seething over his indian track

>>23049924
Fl Studio, Massive, and a few pirated Vengeance percussion sample packs

https://youtu.be/i6GVHNYxYYY?t=4964

>>23049870
based

>>23049744 (OP)
I'm here drinking an IPA and smoking smoking some Mexican brick weed. Went to my mom's early in the day had lunch with her and good convo.

>>23049930
Checked

So I made a song about God's judgment on Israel.
https://vocaroo.com/1mbaW6mVE2Or

>>23049746
I would say you're wrong, because I love aphex twin and autechre and mouse on mars and time machines, but considering what 'computer music' has done for atonal talentless people who should never have been allowed near the mechanisms for music creation, I'm kind of in agreement.
Sequencing has replaced timing, the ability to keep a beat, and vocoders have replaced the ability to hold a tune, and that's such a horrible future for creativity and the human race.

>>23049779
>knows more than anyone in this thread.

John Cage would garrote you with one off the broken strings from his treated piano you absolute waste of skin.

>>23049841
>android is trash

Enjoying feeding the system every iota of your data starting with your first swipe?
The face that you can't jailbreak apples, like you can't jailbreak snapdragon, tells you everything you need to know about Apple users.
Boring shills.

>>23049857
If you use a sequencer, then yeah, the Casio will be a more legitimate 'music' creation.

>>23049835
Kek

i am not a very artistic person, despite that i can still appreciate art as it is.
not what i think it 'should' be.

https://youtu.be/e4xp4WcHfGA

>>23049873
Hey zach

>>23049744 (OP)
>It doesn't cost any money
your pic says otherwise

>>23049939
Hey fren. Where have you been? I thought you moved on for a second.

As for pic rel, I admit I was wrong. I believe the context of that comment was encouraging anons to namefag specifically, not to use their actual information. It would be nice if anons could work together in a more transparent way. I think that 'anon' ultimately works against us gaining consensus, which is why so many anons gravitate towards political grifters and such.
But ultimately you are right, our identity is also a weakness because people like you are willing to weaponize it. So, congratulations for being a part of the problem, fren.

>>23049941
No one cares what you think. Get over yourself.

>>23049942
K bye.

>>23049943
You wanted the attention cool friend. Here I am giving you your attention

>>23049940
thats not real money thats pocket change
imagine wanting a proper piano to call your own at any point in history
i feel so bad for piano players

>>23049945
You can often find decent second hand pianos for next to nothing.

Personally I've been enjoying the brave new waves uploads on archives.
The last few months collection is unbeatable.
20 years dead and still fresher than anything I've heard since, except the odd pirate radio session in couer d'alene and spotty cjsw/cjsr/ckua broadcast, and both of the latter predate covid.

>>23049922
get a bar and a little weight and do overhand press, overhand wrist rolls, and underhand wrist rolls
i would say 50 lbs MAX is all you need to get your body to strengthen all the little micro muscle structures in your forearms and shoulders (over thirty!) so guitar comes way easier
if you do not do this, guitar will become your maximum workout instead, and the act of holding guitar is nowhere close to symmetrical, and you will strengthen the muscle microstructures unevenly and not want to play as long because you are morphing into a goblin
>>23049946
my first piano was a free one off craigslist. i learned my lesson and now have an electric piano with weighted keys, it was about a grand

>>23049948
Lol fair. Definitely more practical.

>>23049925
thanks. life has been depressing. I've been thinking about playing again

https://voca.ro/1oVvd9EvL9gv

Shit or hit

>>23049744 (OP)
I've made a few things using Vocaloids, but they're trash and I won't want to post them due to embarassment.

>>23049951
Sorry bro it's not good

>>23049951
...

>>23049873
send me the stems i'll fix that shit. I have an bachelors in audio engineering.

>>23049955
>the stems
I don't know what that means. I use GarageBand on an iPad. I'm basically retarded. Thanks anyway.

>>23049956
when you're mixing you route a group of tracks to a bus. For example drums, guitars, synths, vocals etc.... these are stems. As opposed to a multitrack which is every track split up individually.

Oh, im doing it
https://voca.ro/1dZUhkKxdglQ

>>23049957
>technical blah blah blah
Nein, Nein. I'm sure I'll be fine with my garage band setup.

>>23049958
How short are you? Be honest.
What is the translation of the lyrics?

>>23049960
5'9" or 5'10", why?
It's free interpretation of sci-fi story about man who got stranded and his suit chew off his vital parts one by one mixed with somethin somethin pioneer's lot idea.

Going to play guitar later and come up with better riffs than pretty much anyone but never release anything. Just a new BFR Ernie Ball JP15 that is fucking sweet

>>23049959
If you're able to do what you set out to do I guess thats all that matters. Good luck. Don't be tricked by retards in this thread into wasting money.

>>23049961
>5'9" or 5'10", why?
I thought so. I have a theory that metal is generally short people music (and that's okay!).
https://youtu.be/T3W4ZOlA08g

>>23049745
>white guy entirely responsible for rise of hip-hop
based

>>23049963
Thanks fren.

>>23049744 (OP)
you bought all that shit and you didn't post your music

>>23049775
>traditional Swiss folk music

>>23049962
Recording fags will never experience it

Rate my sexy tune:

https://voca.ro/1fX5VKTB0YjH

>>23049964
Maybe, maybe. Smaller bodies resonate better and all that

>>23049970
I think your drums sound fast for that spacey lead

>>23049951
You posted this on /mu/ and were already told it’s garbage

Lebron rape now’s the time prime pop pop gat splat

>>23049744 (OP)
i tried to make a vjamz thread 2 weeks ago and just writing the word got me permabanned by kike jannies

>>23049746
But there are so many good EDM acts

Flume, Squarepusher, Orbital, Aphex Twin, Major Lazer, Nero, Bilal and on...

>>23049744 (OP)
I’m pretty sure I can make my own music without electronic gadgets. Your post is becoming a parody of itself. Why have you got all that digital crap? That’s garbage. Where are your instruments? Can you even sing?

>>23049970
This sounds good anon. Good atmosphere would be even better with vox or some samples

>>23049962
That happens all the time. My Dad was in the music industry around some big names. Some make it, some don’t. Back then it was about good production because without it you sounded awful. Everyone sounded awful back then. Look up the history of the song, “Take on Me,” they had to release it 8 times to get a hit. If often hear stuff and thing “this is better than anything out there” but marketing is pretty much everything.

>>23049972
I had to sync it to the orgasm sounds from this girl who sent it to me. But I think you’re right - the swing puts it ahead of the beat.

What about this one:
https://voca.ro/1lkAL5igYeK3

> love you and thank you for your help desu

can't post my vocaroo, system thinks it's spam....

probably for the better.......

>>23049746
Correct reply. This guy just has racks of electronic sound randomators so he noodle around with no real music knowledge or skill. Everything comes preset and he tweeks around the edges or pre generated audio.
This is the primary reason why most music in 2025 is so stale, same same and garbage.
Its not just music though, Low effort narcissism is a primary driver of dulled creativity and with AI its just making it worse

>>23049977
Thanks bro. These are mostly demos from iPhone Garage band, but I’ll import them in Ableton for more nuances.

>>23049744 (OP)
RIVERS OF RHILE

/THREAD

>>23049975
>But there are so many good EDM acts
>Can only list 12 at the most
And this is over a 30year span

>>23049851
that's really cool ever see stakker eurotechno?

>>23049958
Not bad and well produced. Sounds like if the Cookie Monster has hemorrhoids, but the verse guitars are a good technical thing like death metal. You should be proud of this and it should exempt you from the SMO. Then again, I had a Russian pick me up hitchhiking in Lithuanian and the music he played for me had the lyrics “Dook dook” repeated over and over, so you’re better than that.

Play some Vladimir vysotsky stuff

>>23049851
I care, anon. I care.

>>23049746
if you knew about phsyics you wouldn't post such dumb shit, but at least you put on a memeflag to conceal your self and avert shame to your nation.
its just another instrument
the same, transform physical energy (clicks and button presses) into sound.

>>23049744 (OP)
Make scary music, like the original friday the 13th.

>>23049984

Paul Oakenfild, Benga, Kaspa, Chase N Status, Plug, Diesel boy, Dj Keoki, Tribal, Skrillex, Diplo, Calvin Harris, Tiesto, Daft Punk, Justice, Prodigy, Crystal Method, Swedish House Mafia, Armen Van Buren, Com Truis3, Propellerheads, Kavinsky, Portishead, Darude, Chemical Bros.

>>23049854
Fear Factory ish. Well produced

>>23049984
The Prodigy, BT, Leftfield, Pendulum, Paul Oakenfold, Sasha, Underworld, Jam & Spoon, Ferry Corsten, Burial, Haddaway, Basement Jaxx, Deep Dish, Eskimo etc.

>>23049990
Beat me to it, but Diplo and Calvin Harris are garbage.

>>23049955
Based Herman Miller Arron chair. Mad comfy and solved my back issues

I'm still mixing this one. It is about homeless people swarming LA

https://vocaroo.com/1dmhEp1EsLQH

Five of my recent songs I've been working on (they're instrumentals at this point, haven't commissioned any singers yet.)

https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fo/2mqmwc9oj9fofmcdp4z8u/AFEZSNqQUWTaPHUvgLEe-VU?rlkey=jwb88nqne02kxip2otgrkprzy&st=ckvlmaoq&dl=0

>>23049744 (OP)
Whats a good DAW to start with? I got a beast mode PC, TONS of music gear and want to start figuring out how to use said PC with it. Want to make vaporwave/retrowave type shit. Need a DAW that I can watch some videos on, get a good feel for it and hopefully go from there....

>>23049990
>>23049992
>they post mostly "rave party" gay disco tier djs
>neither posted dj shadow, groove armada, squarepusher, bomfunk, roni size, apollo 440, pwei, the knife...
just as suspected
you're both regular pop music dance floor faggots

>>23049996
FL Studio or Ableton

>>23049744 (OP)
I want to buy a Midi Jamstik and make it sound like Phonk chimes kit

Shilling my old soundcloud project. Should I get back into making heavy electronic stuff?https://soundcloud.com/infernl/red-orchid

>>23049769
Analog synthesizers are real actual instruments like guitars and pianos.
(Not sure anybody plays them anymore though. It's all sequencer and DAW slop nowadays.)

>>23050000
>Should I
buy an ad fagoot

>>23049997

>Gatekeeping on a /mu/ Thread that somehow is on /pol/
>No only my music is cool!!!

>>23050002
>thread is full of people posting their work
>he spergs out at me specifically for it
okay

>>23049934
>John Cage
Literally the "tape a banana to the wall and call it art" of music.

>>23050003
>>23050004
>muh getting femoid tier and sperging about this thread at all
This thread should be pruned and both you dickless trannys can go back to /mu where all the other niggers are kept

>>23050006
Now tell us what you're ACTUALLY mad about anon. did little piss pants have a bad day? did mommy burn your tendies?

>>23049744 (OP)
>no Electribe 3
>Novation Circuit, Model Sample, and Yamaha SEQtrak somehow need a tablet to be their best
>Behringer farting out clones instead of taking the Eurorack concept and pugging it into a routable polysynth with stereo filterbanks and 8 bit wavetable oscillators for a true sonic chameleon that can emulate all of them
>Akai MPC is just a Raspberry PI
>world of cool noisemaking boxes not built for the road, power, sync and DI options Stonehengian
>Almost all hardware in permanent beta, biggest offender is Waldorf

I wil dip my had back in when things are a smidge better. The SonicWare boxes look interesting but those shaft pots, nah dawg, I'm out.

Had a lot of eurorack I sold to pay for food, lol. Now there is a long walk for a short drink of water.

I actually love cheesy arrangers as well, they are surprisingly powerful these days.

Still love the monosynth through pedal and groovebox combo.

Still love Renoise tracker. A modern Fairlight.

>>23049757
Most DAWs have a notation mode, just punch in the notes and rests and velocities, assign the instruments and tweak the sound and the mix and render it as audio stems. The app can presumably stream those, that part someone else can help with

>>23050006
>the text book retorts are useless like their hole
KYS woman with a Y chromosome

>>23050010
you're replying to yourself you drunk retard

>>23050007
>>23050011

>the text book retorts are useless like their hole
KYS woman with a Y chromosome

Kek quality bantz dictated this had to be posted twice

>>23050012
your inability to navigate the site with your pea sized brain dictated it lmfao

>>23049744 (OP)
cool synth setup

>>23050013
>thread lobotomised
Stay salty imbecile
I won hahaha, enjoy the gay bantz realm, thread foid

>>23050013
>>23050041
you're so fucking worthless

>>23050050
keep eating those dicks

https://voca.ro/1dmUwEJx5CLF

I’m in crisis

>>23050249
this would be kino on a powerful sound system
>>23050147
i will NOT EAT THE DICKS >:(