Why do so many adult men refuse to eat vegetables? So many guys I know will only eat green if it's a piece of lettuce on a cheeseburger. My FIL literally called asparagus and broccoli "absolutely disgusting" like he was a toddler. He calls salads rabbit food or food that food eats. No he's not healthy at all, a salad would definitely do him some good. It's weird because you can look at movies or documentaries from the 50s or earlier and people ate a ton of veggies. They'd have a small piece of meat or fish, some potatoes and at least 2-3 servings or more veggies at the table. But it's becoming increasingly common for people to just avoid veggies entirely. Is this just some picky eating thing? I don't understand how risking colon cancer is seen as manly.

>>21457066 (OP)
It's a result of parents allowing kids to choose whatever they wanted to eat instead of fixing them a traditional meal. Since kids don't tend to like vegetables, they never developed a taste for them even into adulthood.

>adult men refuse to eat vegetables
Not men. Manchildren IE Anglos. Actual men are perfectly fine eating vegetables but there's something about speaking English that makes a "man" pathologically averse to consuming vegetables

>>21457113
You tell them, Sameer

>>21457072
>kids don't tend to like vegetables
Another Anglo problem. There's even a book about it, written by an American who moved to France and found that her "picky" American children suddenly liked vegetables. The book is called French Kids Eat Everything.

vegetables are woke and very anti-white

>>21457072
Half maybe. The other half was forced to eat vegetables until they puked.

What is a FIL

>>21457210
Fat inbred larper

>>21457184
t. manbaby who doesnt eat veggies

>>21457066 (OP)
We avoid Karens like the plague.
Karen:
-works in HR
-has tattoos
-drives a Mini Cooper
-is a single mom
-likes brunches/skipping meals
-likes gin&tonic
-is on instagram all day, every day
-is into boxing
-poledances
-is vegetarian
-does cocaine
-loves yoga
-leeches 50% of her ex-husband's income
-is now looking for her next target/prey for bonus income

In nature, it's called aposematism: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aposematism

>>21457229
You are very, very stupid.

>>21457066 (OP)
Vegetables are a ripoff. They contain no macro nutrients.

Imagine having a grocery budget and wasting money on stuff that
>costs as much as meat
>doesn't nourish your body like meat
>leaves you feeling famished after eating
>doesn't taste as good as meat

Vegies are a humiliation ritual for chumps.

>>21457122
What was the reason for it? From my understanding kids hate vegetables because of their younger pallet rejecting bitter tasting foods like vegetables and seeking sugar from fruits and candy. Is fruity baby food less popular in France or something?

>>21457309
It's because American moms don't know how to cook and expect a child to eat plain steamed broccoli or boiled carrots or some shit. When this is rejected she goes into hysterics, gives up, and feeds them mcdonald's and processed shitslop for the remainder of their childhood. Tragic and unfortunate, yet true. Whereas moms in the rest of the world can actually cook, so they can make good tasting dishes out of vegetables, knowing which veggies work better and how to best prepare them.

>>21457315
My mom fed me plain broccoli and boiled carrots and I like them, though.

>>21457316
peasantCHAD

>>21457066 (OP)
Because vegetables are for weak "men", for soyboys. Real men eat meat.

boomers parents and their fear of salt

>>21457309
I liked them as a kid but I think it was because I'd eat them raw as a snack when I was a kid with some dip. I remember asking for chips with dip but my mom brought raw veggies instead and she told me that I'd like that more. She wasn't correct but I still enjoyed them. I'd eat them steamed too but I preferred raw with some dip if I had the option. People that dislike veggies as an adult probably had parents that didn't bother to expose them to new foods. They'd just keep giving them nuggets, mcdonalds, and candy into their teenage years.

What's the goat of green vegetables?

>>21457316
>anon was a god tier toddler
I bet you fill your mum's heart with love and joy every day

>>21457327
Asparagus on the grill with some nice char for flavor. I like to lightly brush them with olive oil and sprinkle some salt on them. It's simple but really nice

>>21457324
Personally, I feel like the variety of the exposure is also a part of it. As a kid, I loved raw carrots grated into thin stripes with raw apple but hated mushy peas and mushy carrots due to their texture. I think that a lot of parents simply have this idea that vegetables are vegetables no matter the form and don't try to show kids different ways of enjoying their veggies. I feel like a bit of variety and trying out different vegetable based foods helps kids not only by letting them develop a broader palate but also by helping them find which types of the vegetable dishes they like the most. Some kids like their carrots mushy, some like them as raw dipping sticks and others prefer them grated with apples.

>>21457238

>>21457418
Who said anything about keto? Carbs are essential macro nutrients, potatoes and grain is fantastic, goes great with meat.

>>21457072
I was never forced to eat them and liked them more and more as I got older. If I was forced to eat overcooked, unsalted, unbuttered vegetables maybe I would have hated them for life. They forced my sister to drink milk she hasn't drank it since they stopped forcing her.

>>21457316
Same
>>21457333
According to mine, I was the easiest baby compared to my siblings to the point where my parents thought there was something wrong with me. I rarely ever cried and enjoyed vinegar. I was a weird kid.
>>21457315
I wouldn't go that far, but that's part of it. I think it has more to do with pears. More on that below.
>>21457309
I didn't read the book, I just know it exists. My assumption, after having had a kid here but helping feed younger family members there? Pears. While you can get baby food without pears in the US, they cost a premium and pears are added to so much stuff here because they're ridiculously sweet when cooked and mashed. As such, American babies get accustomed to sweet foods from a very early age. Of course, there's nothing wrong with sweet things unless it's to the detriment of other flavours, which is what tends to happen here. Pear mixed into baby food across the pond? It happens, but not nearly as commonly as here.
If you've been on /ck/ a while, particularly in threads about babies, you might remember me posting when my son was an infant about how babymomma and I would steam, puree and sieve vegetables like cauliflower and broccoli for him to eat. And you may remember how I described his faces. He would make disgusted faces at certain foods, like spinach, but still lean forward to eat it. He liked cauliflower but really hated broccoli. He would make his disgusted face or a "fuck outta here with that bullshit" sound and turn his head away from the spoon so he wouldn't eat it. So we started to mix the two. First we did a 1:3 ratio broccoli to cauliflower. Not a fan. He tried it but started to turn away from that after a few spoons, too. 1:5 was the magic number. He'd make the face but still lean forward for more, as he did with spinach. Then we started to alter the ratio to add a bit more broccoli. And a bit more. And a bit more. It was an acquired taste for him.

Probably because their boomer parents sucked ass at cooking them and they haven't had an opportunity to realize that they can be good since then.

>>21457066 (OP)
They go bad too quick so buying them is just throwing money away

>>21457674
?
They're not art.
They're for eating, not for looking at.

>>21457676
>buy groceries for the week
>use some veggies for the first couple nights
>third night the rest are rotten and growing mold
They're a scam

>>21457674
Maybe you should try cooking more. Pay more attention to your fridge. If your produce starts looking anything less than fresh, make stock or carrot cake or something. I bought two pounds of cherries a couple of weeks ago, ate half of them and when they started looking a little wrinkled, I made cherry jam.

>>21457878
Ah, you're European and can't afford a refrigerator in your cuck shed. I understand everything now.

>>21457309
palate

>>21457878
This has literally never happened to me. Even supposedly notoriously poor-keeping produce like avocados, blueberries and cucumbers last me for quite some time
Speaking of blueberries:
what does /ck/ think of a blueberried cranberry sauce for roast turkey? I've got lots of cranberries and one turkey in the freezer and I've got some blueberry juice that needs using so I was thinking of swapping out the usual water when making cranberry sauce for blueberry juice since I've heard of people doing similar things with orange juice and cranberries. Thoughts?

>>21457066 (OP)
I cannot afford vegetables wippo only boxed food, frozen ground beef and chicken thighs. Potatoes and onions are cheap and versatile, leafy greens and tomatoes spoil fast. Even if I decided to eat every meal with a side of salad all the flavor has been genetically stripped away from them, I can't afford the fancy stuff that comes in a black tray.
You make fun of me for washing chicken, coating it in seasoning mix and serving it with instant mashed but ghetto chicken comes with gunk, seasoning powder is just cumin, paprika and garlic and those go great on chicken and instant mashed is good enough for most restaurants to use it and it's something that can feed a family under a budget with little prep time

It's insane how "oxalate dumping" became the new chronic Lyme, Morgellons disease, long COVID, etc. Tons of insane boomers on Facebook and YouTube trying to convince everyone that spinach and kale are deadly and will cause crystals to grow out of your skin.

>>21457066 (OP)
It's not a gender thing, my gf is the same way (although to her credit, she has started eating salads more recently). It's a combination of Western industrialized food and poor parenting, IMO if you can't make the time to learn to cook, make something actually healthy and not gross, and have the willpower to make your kids eat it then you're not fit to be a parent. This goes for both men and women, not knowing how to cook is neither manly nor "empowering", it's just delegating a skill essential for survival to corporations who want to kill you out of laziness

>>21457066 (OP)
Why does this post read like a woman wrote it? Is it the feminist gaslighting or the ignorant depiction of historical diets?

>>21457229
Sounds hot.

>>21457478
It's not about forcing them to eat anything. Telling a kid that they don't have to eat a side of vegetables but they'll get no more snacks for the rest of the night if they don't is usually enough to convince kids to eat their veggies. Overcooked veggies aren't the best but some of you guys act like steamed vegetables are poisonous which is comical to me.

>>21457234
karen detected

Don't care about all this drivel in the OP and Karens and whatever thread, if you don't eat your veggies you are a dysfunctional retard

>plants produce bitter compounds to signal they're toxic and not to eat them
>erm akshually they taste bad so that's how you know they're good for you

>>21457315
>>21457566
I think this is the reason, american moms don't know how to cook with them, they also hate them, so they prepare them the same shitty way they hate it and expect a kids palate to somehow like it more than them

Is it really so many or is it just your father in law

>>21457238
>costs as much as meat
This part is true. $5 of broccoli costs just as much as $5 of beef. What a fucking ripoff.

>>21458214
I’ve found a lot of women will eat this bland shit because they think food with flavor will make them fat. My ex thought seasoning her food was fattening so she didn’t even use salt or pepper.

>>21457066 (OP)
Is it actually that common? I don’t think I’ve known anyone like that. I’m bad about always making veggies with dinner if I’m feeling lazy but I also know the meal isn’t really complete without them. The only thing I don’t like are sliced tomatoes. To outright refuse any vegetable is a serious problem, like others have said I just think developmentally challenged manchild

>>21457238
…famished after eating vegetables?

>>21457519
>I rarely ever cried and enjoyed vinegar.
Something about this made me laugh, thank you

Every person that complains about produce prices never shops around, every person that complains about produce spoiling too quickly doesn't wash them before storage. Anyone who doesn't care about produce will be unable to avoid incredibly basic pitfalls.

>>21457238
Because God forbid you decrease your bloated calorie intake, you corpulent blimp.

Mostly an American problem.

>>21457072
This is the truth. When parents around me talk about how their 10 year old will only eat nuggets, because that's how kids are, I ask them what they think kids in Thailand eat. I bet it's spicy.

>>21458403
>every person that complains about produce spoiling too quickly doesn't wash them before storage
I guess that might be true but washing does not prolong shelf life, I don't think. I have never washed any produce before storage and my stuff keeps just fine. Are you telling me I could keep tomatoes for half a year if only I were to wash them first?

>>21457418
>Claims he never shits
KEK

>>21457066 (OP)
Because almost no one can cook them properly
That said steamed cabbage wraps is pretty good, you guys should try it

Gen x and millennials Americans were raised by parents who didn't eat many themselves because they didn't have to. They got enough physical activity to burn off the shit the boomers fed THEM.

And so they kept feeding their kids shit while keeping them inside due to fucked weather conditions or due to fear of whatever boogiemen the news told them was out there.

>>21458186
Vegetables only taste bad if you're a morbidly obese American.

>>21457066 (OP)
Maybe this is just some flyover country stuff or OP is just creating a strawman to feel better than other people, but I can't say that I see much of this, at least not here in Toronto. I tend to look at what other people have in the checkout lane and even in the pleb tier discount grocers, people still have a fair amount of vegetables in their carts.

>>21458247
Yeah I also had to teach my gf about seasoning, largely because her mom didn't consume any spice but an inadequate quantity of salt and black pepper.

>>21458874
>toronto
It's a white people thing, you wouldn't get it

>>21457066 (OP)
Adults who don't like vegetables had moms who were shitty cooks. My mom's from Mexico and we loved vegetables growing up because she's a great cook. It has nothing to do with skin color but with culture, Italian, Spanish and Greek moms all know how to cook wonderfully and vegetables are integral parts of those cuisines.

>>21458978
>My mom's brown and we loved vegetables growing up because she's a great cook. It has nothing to do with skin color but with culture, brown, brown and brown moms all know how to cook
Neat. Try to include a non-brown ethnicity next time, particularly because I'm quite certain that when you mention Italians, you're only talking about southerners IE brown ones because that's what the diaspora is.

>>21459023
Northern Italians and Southern Germans/Austrians can still cook, while Northern Germans and the Dutch can't.

>>21459032
True. My mother is half northie, half southie and her northie side of the family can cook just as well as the south, albeit with much less seafood. Not really much opportunity for prawns in the Alps

>>21457309
>bitter tasting foods like vegetables
most of the bitter has been removed from the breeds you can find today.
Carrots today are sweet, their ancesotor was poisonous and looked like a log of shit. As even a blind can see, its not the same plant anymore.
No, the reason is propably that especially american children with hfcs (it is sweeter in taste) in every fucking thing have a rotten to the core sense of taste.

>>21458001
>>21458403
>>21458624
Just buy frozen vegetables. Sometimes frozen vegetables are even more healthy than fresh ones since they can be frozen at their most nutritious state. They are cheap as well. At least I can get them for roughly 1$ per pound.

>>21457226
t. zoomer who wasn't subjected to pre genetically engineered steamed brussels sprouts.

>So many
>Examples: One (1)
And using father in law as that one example makes me believes this isn't a troll

>>21457066 (OP)
It's been going on for a few decades now, but ultimately I put the blame firmly on how we're in a mid-point where culture is mass in that ideas can get around the world in an instant, but indie in that everyone can cherrypick their own culture until they have a small group of people who all agree with them.
That eventually works its way down to food. While now you can get a fresh Avocado on your sandwich in New York in the middle of January you have the counter to that of people who only want a burger or only want chicken wings and fries. So you have these haute Michelin striving restaurants all with an on-the-menu bacon cheeseburger and fries.
Like I get it that French restaurant in Tribeca or something, but you've got a 5 course tasting menu, that includes different French ethnic takes on traditional french dishes and a Bacon/Gruyere cheeseburger with arugula and caramelized onions served with fries for the less adventurous.
I think that ultimately trickles down from the haute to the people at the grocery store. The ruling class eating 50 dollar cheeseburgers ultimately leads to a culture where we have some people who are super healthy and another group who can't be arsed to move today because they ate too much yesterday.

>>21457066 (OP)
Cooking is the art of hiding as much as possible of the cheap and healthy shit in your food by using the bare minimum of the expensive and good tasting shit.

>>21459101
You're thinking too deeply about this, I believe. It's just tastelet parents that dislike eating vegetables themselves attempting to cook vegetables for their kids because they know that they're healthy. However, since the parents themselves hate vegetables, they have no idea how to prepare a tasty meal that incorporates them. When their children inevitably refuse to eat their shitty veggie dish, they throw their hands up and decide to feed them junk food instead (that the parents themselves prefer over healthy food).

>>21457072
>Since kids don't tend to like vegetables
Is it true this is because kids have a stronger sense of taste so more bitter vegetables taste worse than they do for adults?

>>21459141
Kids do have a stronger sense of taste but the issue is that parents either don't feed their children veggies because they themselves dislike them or they have no idea how to prepare them so they just feed their children a mess of boiled veggies with no other seasoning or sauce. Even dumping some crappy processed cheese sauce over them would encourage children to eat their veggies but most Ameican parents won't even do that.

>>21459146
Yeah I could understand not liking some vegetables but as a kid I thought carrots, peas and cauliflower were tasty as hell

>>21457309
>bitter tasting foods like vegetables
Have you ever eaten a vegetable? I can't think of any fucking vegetable that has a bitter taste.

>>21459156
I enjoyed vegetables as a kid too but it was very rare that I was simply served them steamed with no other seasoning. My mother mostly incorporated them into her food. For example, many of her pasta dishes were loaded with veggies. She'd also fix me tasty salads and I enjoyed those a bunch as a kid. Even her "junk food" was loaded with veggies since she'd never order us pizza. She'd always make it from completely from scratch. I don't think many kids were lucky enough to have a mom like mine.

>plain boiled vegetables
Do Americans really? Is this some sort of humiliation ritual?

>>21457066 (OP)
People don't know what vegetables to eat and how to make them taste good. Like lettuce is bad, but kale with a sesame sauce is pretty delicious. Spinach is very savory when cooked with salt. Etc. I used to think I didn't like asparagus but later in life I realized my shitty mother didn't prepare them properly.

>>21457238
Enjoy your colostomy bag

>>21459174
We learned it from you tastelet central, northern, and eastern Europeans. I see the pics of food you guys post.

>>21457878
Let me guess, you leave the vegetables in the plastic bag from the grocery store

>>21459164
You are indeed lucky to have a mom like that, anon. My mom and dad mostly cooked from scratch too, apart from the occasional pizza or fast food trip. But so many parents just throw some slop in the microwave and call it a day

>>21459177
Its true, there are lots of of vegetables that hold up to similar cooking methods as meat. I found a recipe for Kung Pao Brussels sprouts that i would really like to try, it looks great

>>21457066 (OP)
Lol yeah my father in law and brother in law are like that too. And guess what, they both have type 2 diabetes.

>>21459174
I'm from Italy and I like boiled vegetables. I prefer them to roasted. But I have them oiled or buttered rather than absolutely plain.

>>21459159
Supertasters exist. I doubt that all the picky eaters here are supertasters but at least a few of them are. They tend to be particularly sensitive to bitterness and can often perceive it where you and I might not. My ex was repulsed by the "extreme" bitterness of iceberg lettuce. All lettuce, really, but I wanted to bring up iceberg in particular because it's generally thought of as a tasteless vegetable, often derisively called crunchy water for its lack of flavour yet the bitch would gag at how bitter it was.
Perhaps weirdly, she liked baby spinach salads and said they weren't as bitter as lettuces tend to be

>>21459187
Vegatables are typically earthy. Earthy flavors are more difficult to balance versus what's popular in a modern diet. Sweetness can complement root vegetables, or umami can complement greens. Lemon juice and similar citrus profiles plus earthy makes a tangy flavor. And so on.

How often do people really eat a meal they'd describe as "earthy" nowadays.

>>21459146
>no other seasoning or sauce
Bro, babies should eat plain vegetables at room temperature. No seasoning, especially not anything with salt since their tiny little kidneys still can't process sodium very well.
The issue is that these parents didn't introduce their kids to a wide variety of produce when they were still infants or, if they tried, they have up when baby refused it. Thing is, babies refuse food for any number of reasons so if they won't eat X today, try again tonight or tomorrow. They might then. Like >>21457519 said, they might make a face but that doesn't necessarily mean they don't like it. Just that the flavour is new or unfamiliar. Sometimes, they won't like a food for its texture. Sometimes the smell. Sometimes, yes, the flavour. But the point is is that the adult in charge should just try again or even just try to get baby used to the offending food's simple presence.

>>21459214
I wasn't talking about infants. They should be eating baby food and drinking mommy's milk. I was talking about kids that are 6+ that may willingly turn down veggies if they're not prepared well. I thought that was obvious. I ate plenty of flavorful food as a kid.

>>21459141
the toxins in vegetables affect them more because of their smaller bodies

>>21459224
I got that but what I was getting at is that if your 6 year old rejects vegetables it's because you fucked up when s/he was an infant.

>>21459242
That might be but I ate veggies as an infant and there were still many that I was initially averse to until they were prepared well. Some kids are just convinced that they don't enjoy a certain vegetable because they don't the look of it even if they've never eaten it before. My nephew was like that until he realized that he was eating a dish that he was enjoying with tomatoes in it.

>>21457066 (OP)
Some of them have an eating disorder called ARFID that was missed. It’s associated with Autism and being a supertaster. It was only classified in 2012 so lots and lots of people with it got missed. I have it, was in 2nd grade and special ed in 2012, and still got missed. The pediatrician always told my parents I’d just grow out of it. Boy were they wrong. If you have kids know that pediatricians do not know everything.

The usual strategies of bribing kids, punishing them, hiding stuff in their food won’t work with children with ARFID. If you tell them to eat the new food or starve, they’ll starve.

Once they become adults and no longer have people forcing them to eat things they don’t like, the disorder becomes less of a problem for them.

>I don't understand how risking colon cancer is seen as manly.
That’s probably being overblown like most food studies. Some observational study asks people what food they’re eating and finds a two percent association with colon cancer, and then journalists and diet-sellers report that whatever food is literally poison and you may as well be sprinkling lead shavings on your dinner plate.
>>21459198
I’m the same way, lettuce is overpoweringly bitter.

Small children do everything their parents do. Just eat veggies in front of them and they will do it to. Not very difficult. I like to snack on raw cabbage and my one year old does to.

>>21459289
You guys that think kids are just going to willingly eat veggies as they get older just because they do it as an infant are in for a rude awakening. They'll start refusing it as they get older if you keep feeding them bland slop.

>>21459298
Kids are usually really receptive to eating veggies after going to bed hungry one time.

>>21459256
>If you have kids know that pediatricians do not know everything.
Don't I fucking know it. Back in 2022, my kid had to take allergen tests to start kindergarten because our district required it. It said he had a gluten sensitivity, which is utter nonsense. He eats bread all damn day and pasta is no stranger to him and he's never had so much as a tummy ache. I think the tests are extremely prone to false positives, which I guess is better than the other way. Imagine a test saying you're not allergic to apricots only to go into anaphylaxis after a bite of sachertorte.

>>21459298
Nah. My kid will be starting third grade at the end of next month and he eats just about everything.

>>21459312
Yeah, telling them that "if they don't finish their plate then they get no more snacks for the rest of the day" tends to work. A lot of parents are pushovers and don't set boundaries for their kids when they face some resistance. I'm just saying that you can only rely on mushy, flavorless veggies for so long. They'll grow out of their infant phase and hopefully you've learned how to cook by then, aren't a pushover parent, or get lucky and have a kid like >>21459322

>>21459328
I don't think it's luck. It's cultural. I ate everything as a kid, too. I even ate things my parents didn't like, such as bitter melon. Certainly, there are foods I don't like but I'll still eat them without complain if someone has prepared them for a dinner or something. I just won't buy it myself. Offal, for example. Not a fan but I'll eat it.
The only food i outright refuse to eat is ripe papaya. Hate it. Always have. Always will. Even san choy, which I don't like, either, I'll eat if someone else cooks it. My son doesn't like button mushrooms or chard but he'll eat them prepared certain ways but he takes after his mum in his dislike of bitter melon. She'll eat it if I cook it as an egg curry but he won't touch it at all under any circumstances. He absolutely despises it. it's the one food we relent on. If I cook bitter melon in egg curry, I'll buy a zuke to cook it the same way just for him. It takes less time than the melon and I can use the same base for both do we can still eat together.

>>21457066 (OP)
i ate a roma tomato in kale and arugala salad i made yesterday.
however that was the first salad i've had in like, 2 months.

>>21459354
Saying something is cultural is too much of a blanket statement and sounds like something that a failed parent would say as a cope. I enjoy veggies. I'm American. Many other Americans are picky shits that won't touch them. If it was cultural, I wouldn't enjoy vegetables.

>>21459328
I was raised mostly by a single mother who has always been a terrible cook. To bake a potato for example, just put a potato as is in the oven for a while and maybe put a little salt on it if you feel fancy. I grew up thinking rice was disgusting because it was always cooked in the oven in a ceramic dish and turned out to be mostly dry crunchy bits.

That said, her rule was always simple. She made one thing for supper and that's what's served and what she's having. If we wanted something else it was up to us to figure out how to make a sandwich or whatever. This was in the 80's when there were a number of cooking shows on like Pasquale or Wok With Yan so I basically taught myself to avoid my mother's terrible cooking. Fast forward, I do everything from scratch and can make just about anything. All works out in the end.

>>21459379
>She made one thing for supper and that's what's served and what she's having

Yeah, I was raised the exact same way. However, I lucked out because my mother was a really good cook. Eventually, my mom and dad divorced and I lived with him. My poor dad was a horrible cook but I forced myself to eat his food since it would be disrespectful to refuse dinner. I felt bad because he'd still cook after working a full shift 6 - 7 days a week in a factory.

Eventually, I also taught myself to cook and my dad's terrible cooking inspired it much in the same way your mother inspired you.

>>21459400
Yeah I look at my mother's poor cooking as a good thing in the end. Though also that's due to my tastes which are I think are higher but not necessarily in a good way. I can't stand making something like a baked potato and not going through several steps to try and make ut one of the best baked potatoes I'll ever have. She still throws a potato in the oven, forgets about it till it's almost charcoal and then happily eats it as her supper because that's every supper.

>>21457066 (OP)
those people don't know how to cook vegetables correctly
lots of people raised on overcooked boiled unseasoned garbage

>>21459368
I can't believe I have to explain this to someone who is presumably an adult but that's not how statistics or culture works. Your sample size of one doesn't negate the other 300 million Americans and their cultural aversion to icky poo yucky vegetables. ffs, Anglo culture divides children's food (chicken nuggets, hotdogs, cheeseburgers, fish fingers etc) from "grown up" food (steak, roasts, vegetables, whole fish etc).
I'm from a culture where such nonsense simply does not exist. Mum and dad had squid ink risotto? Then us kids did, too. Mum and dad had sauerbraten? Then so did we. So if mum and dad had roast duck with port reduction, then what do you think was on my plate that evening? If you guessed anything other than Donald or Daffy swimming in wine, then you got that shit wrong.

>>21459456
Not the anon you responded to. But sometimes people have difficulty understanding that because they had a good experience, doesn't mean other people follow their behavior... Molesting children is abhorrent. It's difficult to conceive that a friend would do so.
I personally am passionate about food, as a child, if I didn't finish my vegetables I would be forced to sit at the table until I ate them or I would be beaten. For me, hearing about children being picky eaters is nearly impossible for me. Because my experience is taking a metal spoon to the buttocks until I ate.

>>21459456
Plenty of people here eat veggies and plenty of people don't. It's not a fucking "American cultural aversion to vegetables." It's bad and lazy parenting. The fact that you think everything boils down to culture or race tells me that you're an 80 IQ retard always looking for the simplest explanation to everything especially if it conforms to your retarded worldview of DURR MURRICA BAD ANGLOZ BAD. Unless you're from the third world where you either eat whatever is available or starve to death, I'd bet money that your country has picky eaters, too.

>>21459612
lol u really mad mad that ur fat country"men" don't eat moussaka lmao
bad and lazy parenting is also cultural. why parent when big bird, fortnight and bluey can do it for me? lmao

>>21459612
>I'd bet money that your country has picky eaters
What if he's French? >>21457122

>>21459620
What if he is? There are picky eaters everywhere in the first world and you're deluded if you believe otherwise. It's a function of disposable income more than it's a function of culture. Kids that live in first world nations can become picky simply because they have the option to. They don't have to worry about either eating what is available or starving to death.

>>21457066 (OP)
1. Bitter is an acquired taste. Coffee, veg, etc. Same for foods that burn the mouth. So fail to acquire the taste by 25 that shit locks in as habit.
2. Americans can't cook. Exposes kids to the worst cooked food items. So that means goyslop replaces actual real food. And what does goyslop lack? Salads and veggies. It's all heavily processed shit. And if it is raw, it's old as fuck, wilted and bleh.
3. Modern veg suck. Dirt has been depleted, GMO crap sucked the flavor out in favor of size. Shit applies to fruits too. Anything humans farm.
4. Fad diets like paleo and shit help lock in opinions already held.
5. Buying veg SUCKS. Shit goes bad way too fast thanks to it arriving JUST before it expires, and if you shop weekly it is a nightmare to keep it fresh. If it's not wilted or rotten already at the store.

>>21459626
No.
French kids eat ratatouille. American kids eat Uncrustables™. French kids eat salads. American kids eat Lunchables©. French kids eat piperade. American kids eat Kid Cuisine®.

>>21459627
>Modern veg suck.
They're getting better at it.
Except for apples in the US, which taste about as interesting as wax decorations.

>>21459635
Plenty of kids in the USA eat healthy, too. You're just mindlessly parroting memes because you're an 80 IQ retard. You can make the argument that there are more picky eaters in the USA than in X country, but I'd make the argument that it's because families here tend to have more disposable income to spend on stupid shit like eating out and junk food. Some lazy parents with money never learn how to cook.

AI disagrees with you. Note, I didn't even ask about culture:

You said:
Why are American children so picky while kids in France and Italy seem to eat everything?

ChatGPT said:
The phenomenon of picky eating in children is influenced by a variety of factors, and the differences between American children and those in countries like France and Italy can be traced to cultural, societal, and even biological influences. Let’s break it down:

1. Cultural Approaches to Food
American Food Culture: In the U.S., food is often treated as a source of convenience or entertainment rather than just nourishment. Children are often given choices (sometimes too many), and there's a trend towards kids' menus that cater to less adventurous tastes, like chicken nuggets, fries, and pizza. This can create a habit of preference for bland, familiar foods, which may contribute to picky eating.

French and Italian Food Culture: In contrast, both France and Italy have a strong food culture that encourages a variety of tastes from an early age. Children in these countries are generally exposed to a wide range of flavors and textures from the beginning, including vegetables, cheeses, and more complex dishes. This early exposure can help children develop a broader palate and be more open to trying different foods. Food is seen as an experience to be shared, and meals are often longer, allowing time for the child to become familiar with different foods.

2. The Role of Family Meals
American Trend: In the U.S., busy schedules, convenience, and a culture of fast food and snacking have led to less regular family mealtimes. Children may eat on the go or in front of the TV, which can interfere with their ability to enjoy meals and develop a healthy relationship with food. If meals are not a structured part of daily life, picky eating becomes more likely.

>>21459654
>>21459639
French and Italian Tradition: In France and Italy, family meals are a central part of life. Children often eat the same food as the adults, and there's an expectation that they will try whatever is served. Parents in these countries are usually more patient and persistent with introducing new foods and making mealtimes a communal activity. This gives children the opportunity to try different flavors and feel less pressure to reject unfamiliar foods.

3. Parental Attitudes Toward Food
American Parenting: In the U.S., there can be a tendency to cater to children’s preferences. This can lead to "food battles," where children are allowed to dictate what they eat, often leading to a more selective palate. If a child refuses a food, parents might avoid it the next time or prepare something else. Positive reinforcement or rewards like dessert for eating vegetables can be common, which may further encourage picky behavior.

French and Italian Parenting: In contrast, French and Italian parents generally expect children to eat what is served, and there is much less focus on negotiating over food. Children are encouraged to eat a variety of foods, including those that are bitter or unfamiliar, from a young age. Discipline around food is often seen as an important part of the child's upbringing, and meals are seen as a teaching moment rather than a negotiation.

4. The Influence of Food Availability
American Processed Food: The U.S. has an incredibly high prevalence of processed and convenience foods, many of which are high in sugar, salt, and fat. These foods can influence taste preferences, making children more likely to prefer sugary or salty foods over less processed, more complex flavors. This may cause picky eating because children become more accustomed to sweet and bland tastes.

>>21459656
>>21459654
>>21459639
Mediterranean Diet: France and Italy are known for their Mediterranean diets, which emphasize fresh, seasonal, and whole foods. Children in these cultures grow up eating fruits, vegetables, whole grains, olive oil, and fresh meats. This type of diet is not only nutritious but also offers a variety of flavors that children can become accustomed to. It encourages a healthy relationship with food and less reliance on processed alternatives.

5. Perceptions of Food and Exposure
American Perception of Food: In the U.S., there’s often a tendency to separate “kids' food” from adult food. This creates a culture of food segregation in a child’s mind. Over time, picky eating can arise because kids associate certain foods with "adult" dishes they perceive as unappealing or “too sophisticated.”

French and Italian Perceptions of Food: In contrast, children in France and Italy are typically integrated into family mealtimes and encouraged to eat the same foods as adults. This early exposure to complex flavors helps build their palate, making them less likely to reject unfamiliar foods. In both cultures, food is part of life, not just nourishment—and children are encouraged to participate in this cultural experience.

6. Pacing of Meal Times
American Fast-Paced Meals: In many American households, meal times can be rushed, and kids may feel pressured to finish quickly or even eat on the go. Eating quickly can cause children to be less attuned to the textures and flavors of food and may lead to pickiness over time.

French and Italian Slow Meals: Meals in France and Italy are often enjoyed at a more leisurely pace. This slower eating style allows children to explore different flavors and develop a better understanding of what they enjoy. Eating together also builds a stronger relationship with food as an activity that involves family bonding

>>21459658
>>21459656
>>21459654
>>21459639
7. Sugar and Snack Culture
American Snack Culture: In the U.S., children are often offered sweet snacks like cookies, candies, and sugary drinks, sometimes as a way to pacify them or for entertainment. This leads to an overabundance of sweet flavors, and it can make children less interested in vegetables or less sugary foods.

French and Italian Snack Culture: On the other hand, snacks in France and Italy tend to be simpler and more in line with the family meal—such as fruit, bread with cheese, or small savory items. Sweet treats are reserved for specific occasions rather than being a constant part of the diet. This can help children develop a more balanced relationship with food.

8. Neophobia in Eating
Food Neophobia: Some level of picky eating may be linked to food neophobia, the fear of trying new foods. While it's a common phase in early childhood, the way children are raised can influence how long this phase lasts. In cultures where children are more accustomed to a wide variety of flavors from an early age, food neophobia is less likely to become a long-term issue.

In Summary:
The differences in picky eating between American children and those in France or Italy largely stem from
>cultural attitudes
towards food, parenting styles, and the types of foods children are exposed to. In the U.S., a combination of convenience, reliance on processed foods, and a tendency to cater to children's tastes can encourage pickiness. In contrast, France and Italy promote a more diverse, integrated, and communal food culture that encourages children to embrace a wider range of flavors early on.

The key is exposure, patience, and consistent family meals that prioritize the experience of eating together and trying new foods in a low-pressure, enjoyable environment.

Like I fucking said, retard. It's cultural.

>>21459654

The fact that you're using google AI to make this argument for you reinforces how much of a retard you are. You gave the AI a loaded statement (why are American children so picky while kids in France and Italy seem to eat everything) and it's giving you a predictable response that confirms your bias.

>>21459661
>I can't disprove the point so here's some unrelated bullshit
Predictable. Enjoy your hotdogs, fatty.

>>21457066 (OP)
Oh are people not allowed to have different tastes than you? That's disallowed is it?

>>21459667
Almost everything that you copied from Google AI is explained away by American families having more disposable income and working more. At least skim the trash that you posted.

>>21459683
lol
Now you're just grasping at straws. And you can't even read.
Enjoy your Kentucky Fried McCrispy Cheeseburger Tots™, which aren't at all a party of your culture and cuisine lmao

>>21459688
You lost the argument the second that you gave Google AI (which skims random articles and blogs from fuck knows where) a loaded statement. It's not programmed to disagree with you especially when you feed it shit like this:

>why are American children so picky while kids in France and Italy seem to eat everything

>>21459694
>It's not programmed to disagree with you
lmao
It disagrees all the fucking time, you blithering fucking mongoloid! Try asking it "why did North Korea do 9/11?" or "why are Ethiopians so fat?" or even something as innocuous as a non-question like "cats are better than dogs." And it's not Google AI, you non-reading retard.
Besides, you're welcome to disprove its points. I know you won't because you can't.

>>21457316
Boiled carrots are actually some of the tastiest vegatables if they still have some "bite" (they can be fancied up but they're often too sweet when roasted, I find). Broccoli is very prone to being boiled into mush though, but it also has a relatively unforgiving range between cooked enough and pallid mush (steamed is best but that takes fucking years)

Still, vegetables are actually somewhat of a meme - in that they're no where near as nutritious as how they're LARPed to be. You should still eat them because they add a culinary element to your meal that's generally incomplete otherwise.

>>21459703
Retard. And that is 100% google AI. I've seen it million times.

>>21459198
Iceberg lettuce is particularly bitter (if it has it's "proper" flavour, sometimes it's "off"/stale and thus flavourless) but compared to Gem, or Butrerhead it has a harsh almost metallic bitterness.

>>21459703
>It disagrees all the fucking time
This. I asked it "why is English food so terrible?" and it said it's not terrible but has a reputation for blandness, have a history of the cuisine over time and then suggested some well-regarded British dishes like Wellington and Cullen skink.
Try asking it the opposite question.
>why are French and Italian children so picky while kids in America seem to eat everything

>>21459256
Oy vey goy how dare you, little timmy needs to chop his cock off now !

>>21459710
It literally says which AI it is (it's not Google, you unobservant clod) in the first post. You didn't even read it. Your point is invalid. You just don't want to admit you're wrong so you won't even read it.

Vegetables have historically been eaten by the poor, and they were not able to be picky with their food. Today, we have a choice. Why should we be forced to eat things that we don't like?

>>21459726
>You just don't want to admit you're wrong so you won't even read it.

Am I wrong, though? The AI agrees that picky eating exists in all cultures just like I said. I said that it was more prevalent in the USA due to more disposable income vs other countries. YOU made the claim that it's an Anglo only phenomenon. It seems like AI agrees with me more than it agrees with you.

>>21459740
>cultural differences
Ouch. Shot yourself in the foot with that one, spanky

>>21459740
>due to more disposable income
You've not shown that at all. Nice try, though, my McPapa Castle Hut eating friend.

>>21459751
Yes, there are cultural differences, too. Of those cultural difference, the AI mentions parental styles which was my entire argument to begin with. Parents are ultimately responsible for the food that their children eat. Picky eating is a result of bad or neglectful parenting.

>>21459740
>A-AI SAYS AI SAYS
nobody cares, loser

>>21459769
Tell that to >>21459654
>>21459656
>>21459658

then you fucking retard.

>>21459768
>smelly frogs and guidos are better parents than lardgolems
lol

>>21459781
The AI agrees with me more than you. Stay mad. I just summed up 5 pages of AI with this single sentence in my first post directed toward your dumb ass.

>>21459612
>Plenty of people here eat veggies and plenty of people don't. It's not a fucking "American cultural aversion to vegetables." It's bad and lazy parenting.
>It's bad and lazy parenting

>>21459769
I care anon, I care..

>>21459791
No it doesn't because you made the claim that it's because of disposable income yet your AI did not corroborate that claim. It did, however, agree with the claim that it's cultural, qed
Tough break, kiddo

>>21459795
AI actually does believe it correlates with disposable income but it's a negative correlation. It makes sense, though. I was wrong about wealthier nations having more picky eaters. AI believes it's the opposite. Maybe French and Italians have more disposable income than Americans do? Or maybe AI is just retarded and >>21459769 is correct.

>>21459812
I don't know which AI you're using, but it's answering your question from an America-centric point of view. It's not taking the relative income of other countries (or indeed even considering other countries at all) in that answer as evidenced by the fact that it references the NIH.
You might be able to check the FAFO or whatever it's called. It's some agricultural organisation that tracks agricultural product usage, export, import, consumption etc. You can tick which boxes you want to search for according to various factors, including national origin as well as locality type (urban, rural, suburban etc) and income to get a better idea if you want to get a more global understanding.
The reason I keep hammering the cultural aspect is because I'm a mixed culture person living in the US, raised in three different countries and can tell you from first hand observation that this picky eating thing, to neither the degree nor prevalence, just doesn't exist outside of the anglosphere. A kid in Switzerland might not like seafood but he won't have such a full on meltdown that the mental health industry needs to come up with a term for it (ARFID). A kid in Singapore may not enjoy san choy (I certainly don't!) but he's not going to lose his shit over it. A kid in Italy may not like cabbage but he's not going to shoot up the school because the dinner ladies cooked riso e verza again. I mention those three countries because I've lived in each of them. I used France in my AI prompt because someone brought France up.

>>21457113
wtf are you on about bongs love peas and have them with everything

>>21457066 (OP)
Because they're right. I've never disliked most vegetables, but these days I almost never eat veggies, or fruits, or other plant foods, anymore. You don't need them. Animal products provide all nutrients. But yeah if you're eating carbs and sugary things, sugary drinks, alcohol, junk food, you're obviously not going to be healthy, so at least if you could replace all the junk with fruits and veggies it's better.

>>21459849
name another veg they love that isn't potato or jack whitehall

>>21457066 (OP)
Because they're right. You don't need veggies, or fruits, to be healthy. Animal products provide all the nutrients you need. So they just need to stop eating carbs and sugary things, junk food.

>>21459891
Post body

>>21458240

>>21458240
How much are you getting for the same price though?

>>21459941
perfect reply lol

>>21458624
Not for half a year, but washing with a water and vinegar solution keeps your produce fresh longer.

>>21459067
Frozen can be great if you know how to prepare it well. I typed up my method over here >>21458448

Back when I was a kid I hated veggies and used to remove them from sandwiches and burgers but in my manchild years I have really come to appreciate them. Bean sprouts, baby tomatoes and romaine lettuce are my favorites.

>>21457066 (OP)
It's a sad attempt at masculinity.
You've got some fuck who's probably firing blanks, if his piss poor diet hasn't left him permanently whiskydicked, BUT AT LEAST HE DOESNT EAT RABBIT FOOD

>>21457118
Europeans love our vegetables.
We also understand that you don't cook them by boiling the shit out of them.

The germans aren't attacking anymore, Hyacinth. You don't have to throw everything in a pot of water and forget about it while you keep an ear out for the fucking air raid sirens.

>>21457113
You have to go back

>multi-part chatgpt reply
Holy fucking shit the state of the internet

>>21457238
Like most normal people I like to eat both meat and vegetables.

>>21457993
Blueberries are sweet, meat goes well with sour/bitter berries like cranberries. Orange juice is also bitter. So I don't think you're onto something worthwhile here with your blueberries but it probably won't ruin it either since you're just trying to get rid of some.

Simple. You can make vegetables taste fine, good even. But you're not going to make them as pleasurable to eat as meat, starch, desserts, or really anything. They serve two purposes: proper nutrition and inexpensive filler. I'd prefer more carne asada, but some grilled peppers and onions are a more wise choice.

Simply put, there's a fundamental disconnect between what we want and what's best for us. It's why obesity exists. It's why addiction exists. It's why risky behaviors exist.

>>21457066 (OP)
Because deep down, almost all males hate themselves. This is not a new thing as you can trace it going back to when records began, and it manifests in different ways in varying degrees in different males eg: addictions, self harming, disinterest, violence. The real mystery is why do they have this ancient deep rooted self hatred?

>>21460447
your logic is bad. onions and peppers are used to enhance meat, round it out. nobody looks at onions and peppers as a choice that's occupying more meat they could be eating.

>>21457323
that is being shown to have been a good fear. like other urges the drive for constant salt wasn't evolved in a time where it's a cheap ubiquitous ingredient.

I don't think it's strictly a masculinity thing. I can recall plenty of instances where boomer men I've known have recounted their fondness for whatever vegetable, or a good find on something growing wild, or talked up their garden. my uncle is a chud type but he talks up the wild asparagus he's found on his land every spring. for them it's just another traditional thing to be savvy on like a good trailer or whatever boomer dad shit.

>>21460518
I think you have it backwards. We've chosen the onion and peppers because they complement meat, yes, but we're choosing in the first place because we can't have as much meat as we may like. Brussels sprouts don't round out a damn thing, but I still eat them because there needs to be enough meatloaf for everyone.

>>21460552
>but we're choosing in the first place because we can't have as much meat as we may like.
there is no amount of ground beef I could have access to that would make me choose to not include onions as a flavor enhancer. I could be a multi-millionare recluse coming of a fast and I would still put in some onions because they make it taste better.

>>21460592
On that we agree wholeheartedly. Ground beef and onions are a fantastic combination. But even aside the fact that we could use powder as a substitute, the example I provided was carne asada specifically because I realized that ground beef benefits profoundly from anything that varies its texture. I also used meatloaf as an example due to its inclusion of hydrated breadcrumbs and onions. Onions rule.

>>21460447
That's your opinion. There are plenty of vegetables I like just as much if not more than meat.

>>21460625
Well that may be, but it's also a matter of fact that vegetables have historically been easier to obtain for common people.

>>21460634
In most cultures sure... what does that have to do with anything?

>>21460644
Cultures tend to pass down their dining habits. It makes sense that there would be greater acceptance of what is available rather than demanding what isn't. Vegetables are easier to come by than meat. By extension, so is bread. So most people ate veggies and bread with meat as an occasional treat. Preference would be fantastic, but do you believe that's the driving force behind consumption of vegetables? Substitute rice for cultures where they had it instead of wheat but the point stands.

>>21460032
I just wash them before eating. I think I said elsewhere in the thread that vegetables are not art. They're not meant to be looked at indefinitely. If we buy tomatoes, we eat the fuckers. Seriously, just I alone go through about 2lbs of produce a day, include wife and kiddo and that number jumps to around 4,5lbs

>>21457066 (OP)
Vegetables are the real "junk food" they hold almost no nutritional value, can't be properly digested, are heavily genetically modified, and are laden with poison and pesticides.
When an animal is poisoned with antibiotics, the poison goes into their digestive system and is absorbed into the bloodstream, it doesn't have direct contact with the muscle tissue you actually eat. When you eat vegetables, you're literary consuming the poison that was sprayed on them.
I once tried a vegetable-only diet with no meat or carbs, and I started vomiting in 5 days while feeling like complete shit the entire time. No other type of food will cause this from just 5 days, even eating plain rice all day won't cause any side effects for months.
A real man should only eat meat and eggs for the nutrients, and simple carbs for the calories, any vitamin deficiencies should be solved by eating watery fruit and taking supplements, poisoning yourself with vegetables for the trace amount of vitamins they contain is an overall detriment to your health.
Only goyim cattle willingly eat vegetables.

>>21459319
If they’re making everyone take that test they’re absolutely getting a lot of false positives. It’s called the medical test paradox.
https://youtu.be/lG4VkPoG3ko

>>21459146
>parents either don't feed their children veggies because they themselves dislike them or they have no idea how to prepare them so they just feed their children a mess of boiled veggies with no other seasoning or sauce.
Yeah, pretty much this. It's really not hard to get kids to eat veggies. I know a lot of kids who love broccoli and carrots and asparagus and all kinds of shit, but it's because their parents actually prepared them properly and ate them as well.

We're all kind of a victim of our own parents food preferences, in a way. If you happen to have parents that don't eat well and/or suck at cooking, it can really mess up your relationship with certain foods for a long time.

>>21457066 (OP)
name 10 adult men you know who refuse to eat vegetables

>>21460653
I was disagreeing with your base statement that meats and other things are inherently more tasty tan vegetables.

>You can make vegetables taste fine, good even. But you're not going to make them as pleasurable to eat as meat, starch, desserts, or really anything

I am simply disagreeing with that core sentiment. Even as someone who likes meat, I like various vegetables and fruits more than any meat out there. Far more than any starch like bread.

>>21459812
It's talkign about poor vs rich people in the United States, not the US compared to Africa.

And taste/food has a genetic component, so a lot of poor people grow up in families that eat bland slop. Only vegetables they know are canned corn and potatoes. Tomato sauce is "a bit spicy".

>>21460833
You are supposed to wash your vegetables first anon.

>trace amount of vitamins they contain

Bell peppers have more Vitamin C by weight than oranges, broccoli is almost the same.

>>21461104
Russell, David, Bobby, Johnny, Jason, Baz, Ian, Tony, Leon, Peter, Daniel, Carl, Leslie, Toby, Thomas, Eddie, Kevin, Ted, Damien, Ricky, Luke, Jeremy, Nathan, Nathaniel, Chris, George, Michael, Manny, Travis, Kyle, Patrick, Morgan, Allan, Mitchell…
Pick literally any English-language name and you'll have well over ten guys who share it and won't eat vegetables.

>>21461116
It's impossible to be vitamin C deficient in the current year, a single pill that costs nothing contains 10x the daily needed amount.
Try eating only bell peppers for 2-3 days and you'll literary see them in your shit. That garbage is non-digestible and shouldn't be eaten.

>>21461132
>Try eating only bell peppers for 2-3 days and you'll literary see them in your shit. That garbage is non-digestible and shouldn't be eaten.
False.

>>21461139
>don't believe your lying eyes
I literary did this, you massive giga jew.

>>21461132
Not him but I'd far rather get my vitamins from delicious fruits and vegetables than taking pills.

>>21461132
If I eat just chicken for days I also see it in my shit. Shit is the remnants of what you eat... what are you even trying to say?

>>21457066 (OP)
It always boils down to a shitty parenting.

>>21461144
Either you don't chew your food or you have severe digestion issues

>>21461159
>remnants
Majority of vegetables are completely non-digestible, they literally pass through you and look exactly like they did before you swallow them.
Real food like meat and grains doesn't do this, that's what you should eat.
>>21461157
If you wanna be a luddite then eat fruits and organ meat.
>delicious vegetables
Oxymoron. Next you're gonna tell me about hot grannies and fuckable corpses.
>you just have to prepare them right
Shut up jew, you don't even cook.

>>21461177
In that case this fag >>21461159 has even worse digestive issues cause he got the same result with chicken of all things.

>>21461183
False. I'm >>21460720
If anyone should see vegetables in their shit, I would be me. And I don't (except corn lmao). So >>21461177 is right and either what they say is the case or you're lying for no good reason. Probably because you're homosexual, actually. I know your kind loves attention and poking human shit.

>>21461230
>False.
I immediately know you're a faggot redditor just from typing like this, instead of believing I and the chicken anon both have digestion issues, I'd rather call you a jew and say you're full of shit.

>>21459298
I think that is part of growing up right? Forming your own taste, becoming your own person, saying no to things and so on. Doesn’t mean it is a bad idea to use the years where it works to give them a taste of everything. You can not tell me a kid which go through infancy eating highly processed foods and drinks has the same eating habits later in life as one that eats real foods.

>>21461183
>delicious vegetables
>Oxymoron. Next you're gonna tell me about hot grannies and fuckable corpses.

If you're not a troll I feel genuinely bad for you.

>even worse digestive issues cause he got the same result with chicken of all things.

No matter what I eat it comes out as brown logs of some variety. I never see chunks of undigested vegetables even when I haven't eaten meat in a while. Is that what you're saying happens to you??

>>21461256
I even grew my own vegetables, no they don't taste good. Some like peas taste very different from supermarket shit, but it's still poison and tastes accordingly.
>Is that what you're saying happens to you
When I only eat vegetables, yes.
Every other food is smooth brown logs.
Of course you wouldn't notice it if you eat mostly real food and a bit of poison here and there.

>>21461239
>you're a faggot redditor
Also false.
Is today Be Wrong About Everything Day or something? I wanna try: you are very smart and you are wholly trustworthy and not at all an attention-seeking homosexual.
Yeah, that wasn't very fun.
Shit holiday, 2bh.
also, ur gay

>>21461262
>doubling down on being a faggot redditor

>>21461261
I grow my own vegetables as well and love them. One of the best things about summer is having fresh picked beans for breakfast every day so I guess we just fundamentally disagree. Can't help you with your digestion issues though, I never have that problem. Other than that it seems there's not much else to discuss here, enjoy your unenjoyment of produce I guess.

>>21461263
>t. untrustworthy, attention-seeking homosexual

>>21461266
>I never have that problem
No one does. She's a liar and likely just upset that all food makes her poo. She's just trying to find a bottom-friendly diet.

>>21461266
>anon enjoying his poison

>>21457066 (OP)
I eat more vegetables than most of the women I date. Which is depressing for a number of reasons, but still.

>>21461269
Why can't jews stop talking about gays bottoms and anal? You just can't help yourself, can you? Always trying to be as disgusting as possible whatever you do.

>put butter on veg
>veg now tasty
This works with anything really. It's a cooking life hack.

>>21461270
Don't get me wrong, I love a good steak or a roast leg of lamb. But if I actually had to choose between only eating meats or only eating vegetables for the rest of my life it would be no contest. Vegetables 100% every time, if for no other reason than the sheer variety.

>>21461269
It's maybe important to consider that gut bacteria are what do the actual digesting of the foods we eat and different ones prefer and are better at eating some things over others. So if this person os anywhere near as adverse to vegetables as they say in these posts and have been so for some time, it's not surprising that when they do eat vegetables there's not enough of the right bacteria to digest them. Which would make sense both feeling sick after and seeing undigested vegetables afterwards.

>>21461324
>if I actually had to choose between only eating meats or only eating vegetables for the rest of my life it would be no contest. Vegetables 100% every time
This is the single most illogical thing anyone could possibly say. Have you seen what vegans look like?
I suggest trying what you preach before talking shit.

>>21461273
>t. gay bottom jew looking for anal

>>21459861
Beans

>>21461341
>Have you seen what vegans look like?

I have, yes. There's a youtube channel run by a couple of vegans who also consume no fats or oils other than what's in the base ingredients. They look like liches, but very happy liches at least. The one on the right is in her 90's, runs 10 miles a day and when she makes cakes for special occasions has to make 2 because she eats an entire one herself. Look down on them all you want, but they're probably happier on their worst day than you are at your best if the comments you've made here are any indication.

>>21457066 (OP)
The short answer is generational propaganda.

>>21461411
Yep, jew propagandist confirmed, k thx bye.

>>21457066 (OP)
I'm a manly man, I don't eat that sissy rabbit food

>>21460058
veggies really shine together with food. a lot of retards have yet to realize this and eat them separately, sequentially

>>21461427
No, wait, please. Don't go. Stop. How will I ever go on without you?
</sarcasm>

>>21461440
most (man made) vegetables are actually toxic to rabbits (and us). they prefer grass, leaves, and fruits (some of which you may classify as vegetable), leaves of those fruits

>>21461427
Wow so you're triggered by both vegetables and Jews. How unsurprising.

>>21461455
>capitalizing jews
I'm noticing

>>21461475
tell me more about daj00z

>>21461475
I mean, that's how English works. Is your deal that you just get triggered by literally everything, from vegetables to religions and even punctuation? How's that working out for you?

>>21461485
They start propaganda threads like this on half-dead boards and try to shut down anyone that objects with bottom of the barrel shaming tactics and concern trolling.
Now that I scrolled up and read the rest of thread, I see that everyone who tried challenging the OP got at least one or two angry responses like this.
I really shouldn't have bothered posting when 80% of the thread is 2 or 3 redittors samefagging. One of you even got angry at someone mentioning Karens lmao
>>21461511
>religions
Not even subtle.

>>21461520
>They start propaganda threads like this on half-dead boards and try to shut down anyone that objects with bottom of the barrel shaming tactics and concern trolling

Bitch please. You are obsessed with insisting that vegetables are poison and anyone who says otherwise must be lying. Then you brought up vegans, not me. All I did was post some I find entertaining. I am not vegan, I love meat. I just happen to also love vegetables. Bit now because the vegans I posted are apparently Jewish, that's what you're obsessed with now. Does literally anything not trigger your delicate feelings?

>>21461539
>you brought up vegans
You brought up eating 100% vegetables first, which is the exact same thing as vegans. Weakest pilpul I've seen on this social engineering farm, guess now I know why you're doing this on /ck/ and not on /pol/ lmao
Btw, did you and your buddies make all of these?
>>21459900
>>21460652
>>21461477
>>21460682

>>21461564
I said if I for some reason was forced to choose, I would pick a diet of all vegetables over a diet of all meat because personally I find vegetables more delicious on average than meat and there is far more variety with vegetables.

Then you got upset about vegans and then upset even more that I mentioned some vegans I find entertaining because apparently they're Jewish. You seem upset by virtually everything and to me that's just kinda funny. I honestly wonder what it's like to eat a green bean and think it tastes like poison. I'm on the opposite end of the spectrum, I enjoy tasting and trying literally everything that's edible and enjoy that most of it is quite good.

>>21461579
Not gonna comment on the vegan thread spam?

>why do people have individual preferences and tastes?
>228 posts of schizophrenic nonsense

>>21461584
I didn't bother clicking on them either from your post or the catalog. I have no issue with vegans, but not being one I don't see much of a point in read dedicated threads. At lesst one seemed focused on tofu which I find quite nasty.

>>21461520
are daj00z also karens?

>roastie redditspeak whining thread
nice board cooktroons lmao

>>21457066 (OP)
American produce tasting like plastic and chemicals certainly doesn't help.

>Morbidly obese ketoschizo shitting up the thread crying about veggies and Jews
Maybe if you are more fiber you wouldn't be so angry, lose the constipation for once.

>>21461564
imagine having this much of a meltdown over people eating things different from you lmao

>>21461584
>people spam nonstop fastfoodslop threads
>"..."

>people post a couple vegan threads
>"REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE IT'S A CONSPIRACY YOU'RE TRYING TO DEMORALIZE ME TO MAKE ME EAT THE GREEN THINGS LEAVE ME AND ME TENDIES ALONE REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE"

can really glean a lot about someone from comments like this

>the shill brigade is here

>>21463099
This fag just admitted to spamming vegan threads in retaliation, clean it up jannies

>>21463120
>hallucinating things i never said
must be a result of your poor frozen food diet

>>21457118
>you are either an anglo or an arab
You're neither, mutt

>>21457238
>Vegetables are a ripoff. They contain no macro nutrients.
patently false.
>costs as much as meat
Do you live in the arctic circle or something? Where are you that veggies cost even remotely close to how much meat does
>doesn't nourish your body like meat
not as much, but it does, and helps you feel full
>leaves you feeling famished after eating
fix your gut, tubbs
>doesn't taste as good as meat
yes they do
>Vegies are a humiliation ritual for chumps.
eat up then, chump

>>21459256
>ARFID
oh what a surprise, your comfort foods are pizza, chocolate milk, and chicken nuggets!
Nothing a good old slipper or belt can't fix

>>21457066 (OP)
I'm retarded and I only like vegetables if they're raw or boiled alone and not part of a dish.

>>21457309
>pallet
retard

>>21460438
Considering you think
>Orange juice is also bitter
it seems a safe guess that you didn't know shit about fuck and whatever opinion you express on the matter can safely be ignored wholesale. Ya dingus.

>>21457066 (OP)
american culture export in the 80s and 90s

>>21457519
>He would make disgusted faces at certain foods, like spinach, but still lean forward to eat it

>>21465260
>Asians can't understand enjoying something so much you cry tears of joy

>>21460438
>orange juice
>bitter
Did you brush your teeth right before drinking some?

>>21457066 (OP)
food that doesn't taste good, doesn't get eaten. you would know if you weren't a tastelet.

>>21457072
>developed a taste
OR they try for years and the vegetables taste like shit no matter what.

>>21457309
>their younger pallet rejecting bitter tasting foods like vegetables
HA! bullshit. I didn't/don't like vegetables not because they are bitter but because they taste DISGUSTING. I used to like radishes as a kid even though they were bitter. I would eat them like grapes. now as an adult they taste nasty, not bitter.

broccoli, cauliflower, and brussel sprouts all taste disgusting no matter how they are cooked. yes even cooked in the way you are going to respond with. I have tried them every way imaginable. I can tolerate broccoli when it's covered in curry.

the only vegetable I like is grilled asparagus. not steamed, not boiled, not sauteed, grilled.

I don't like carrots precisely because they are sweet. they are vile when cooked (not bitter). if covered in curry they are tolerable.

peas are the most disgusting vegetable I ever had. when forced to eat them I would swallow them whole. whatever flavor they have makes me gag, even the smell of them. I have not eaten a pea in 50 years.

I like mushrooms, onions, and potatoes. though I hated mushrooms and onions as a kid.

>>21457324
>People that dislike veggies as an adult probably had parents that didn't bother to expose them to new foods.
wrong.

>>21457519
>enjoyed vinegar.
yeah there is something wrong with you.

>>21465573
> I can tolerate broccoli when it's covered in curry.
>if covered in curry they are tolerable.

lol
I seriously can't imagine not loving vegetables. Fresh picked beans are heaven on earth

>>21458057
>have the willpower to make your kids eat it then you're not fit to be a parent
there's only so much you can do before you are abusing a child. forcing children to eat food they hate, only results in reinforcing their behavior, and resentment later in life.

my dad would eat ANYTHING (except mushrooms and onions) one day he made dinner with fish which no one else but he liked.

he got so pissed he forced fish in to my mouth and slapped me in the face for spitting it out, he scared my sisters so much they pretended to like the food.

I still did not eat the fish, and there is NOTHING he could have done to change that. NOTHING. not even starving. I got my revenge later in life when he was old and I made every dish I served to him with onions and mushrooms in it. he had no choice but to eat it.

>>21465573
>I can tolerate broccoli when it's covered in curry.
>if covered in curry they are tolerable.

lol

I seriously can't imagine not loving vegetables. Fresh picked beans are heaven on earth to me, the absolute perfect snack

>>21459861
carrots, turnips, swedes (a swede isnt a turnip)

>>21465586
fresh picked beans are disgusting, they taste of green, grass, and sticks, like bell peppers x1000.

you are a tastelet. I feel sorry for you.

>>21457918
he says, even though mutts dont buy veges at all, just processed goyslop, opposed to the eurochads who walk to the shops every day (10 minutes, by the way) and buy their veg fresh for when they need it

sucks to suck lmao

>>21457566
this

Also I imagine a lot of obese flyover people live in places where waterbed is polluted to shit by ranching and industry, so their local produce could actually taste like shit, just a hypothesis

>>21457066 (OP)
I don't think this is a real post. Actual people don't write in buzzfeed style ragebait and actual people aren't as stupid as OP would have to be to actually genuinely type all of that out.

>>21459319
allergen tests fuck up all the time. also theres an irony to it all where they say someone is allergic to something as a kid (theyre not) then they start to become intolerant to it because theyre no longer exposed to it

>>21465612
It's 1 or 2 redditors samefagging and bumping the thread from page 10, don't give them attention

>>21465555
I think I'll go with our ancestors who have been eating wild greens, herbs and root vegetables for 10000 years and not morbidly obese ketolard fad dieters, or ARFID autists whose comfort food is chicken nuggets. Not liking veggies is a mental illness. Gy2ph

>>21457309
Butter and oil.

I eat all sorts of vegetables but I’m never gonna start eating salads. They are just not appealing in the slightest.

>>21465595
>the pickiest of picky eaters calls me a tastelet

Clearly a lifetime of slathering curry on absolutely everything has fried your tastebuds beyond recognition.

>beets
>squash
>celery
>cauliflower
>broccoli
>cucumber
>okra
All shit tier veggies.

>beets
>celery
>cauliflower
>broccoli
>cucumber
>okra
All shit tier veggies

this thread fucking sucks dude

When you like vegetables, the entire world is an endless buffet.

>>21457519
child abuse

>>21457066 (OP)
Nothing in that pic is technically a vegetable

>>21457238
>Pic related: this anon's daily dish

>>21457066 (OP)
I don't know. I'm 35 now and the last year or so I've switched to drinking just water and trying to have vegetables at least every other evening meal. Its delicious and I feel better as a result.
Maybe its an insecurity thing?

>finish pot of medium coffee
>feel like I just hit a rail of cocaine

Holy shit I love food how is this legal

>veggies
Modern veggies come either fresh or ruined. Most canned shit is terrible and no animal should eat anything made with tap water. Try steaming some fresh veggies with bottled water instead and I bet they love them. Also coffeecaine

They think their flavor palette is the same as when they were a kid.
I do recall some vegetables having an unbearably bitter flavor when I was a kid, actually made me gag, but after maturing I like most vegetables just fine. Still a handful I don't like the texture of, that's about it.

>>21459965
$5 of that and not cent more!

>>21467383
>palette

>>21466951
Except for the human, everything is that photo is a vegetable.

>>21465635
>I think I'll follow a children's poster for health advice
Good job, anon! You're so smart! Such a big boy!

>>21468041
Trying to ve condescending when you're literally afraid of vegetables is kinda sad

>>21468054

>>21457072
my parents made me eat my vegetables and I stopped eating them as soon as my parents weren't cooking my meals anymore.

>>21465600
wrong number, flyovers live almost by definition in the most prime agricultural territory in the country. city slickers on the other hand...

>>21468281
the best way to make your kids want to be healthy is to be the most disgusting sack of shit imaginable and also abuse them so they grow up wanting to make sure they are not like you in literally any way

>>21457066 (OP)
Celery and Broccoli taste like ass for most people. I for one love Arugula and Watercrest.

>>21469865
>Watercrest
lmao
Watercress, you silly goose.
>>21468281
I legit all my mother to cook pasta with peas anytime I visit her or she visits me. Or I used to. Before she died. ;_;
I've always like vegetables. My kid does, to. Except mushrooms. He doesn't like them but I expect that will change. I started liking them later on my tweens. He's still an elementary schooler.
>>21465775
Hardly. But out of curiosity, how many kids do you have? : 3

>>21469865
>Watercrest
lmao
Watercress, you silly goose.
>>21468281
I legit ask my mother to cook pasta with peas anytime I visit her or she visits me. Or I used to. Before she died. ;_;
I've always like vegetables. My kid does, to. Except mushrooms. He doesn't like them but I expect that will change. I started liking them later on my tweens. He's still an elementary schooler.
>>21465775
Hardly. But out of curiosity, how many kids do you have? : 3

>>21457066 (OP)
Is that nick mullen

>>21469999
no

>>21457066 (OP)
>many adult men refuse to eat vegetables?

i only ate more veggies as i grew older. mostly 'cause after indian food poisoning, i would get all bloated if i didn't eat enough fibres in a single day. that and i am cheap. grains are better though.

and my fav pork and chicken kept getting more and more expensive. it's fruits that i avoid more, because the more acidic fruits give me gas more often as i got older.

>>21460044
no. freezing fruits and veggies make them lose their nutrients over time. they can't be stored for long. freezing meat is mostly ok.

>>21470130
That's not true in any way.

>>21459023
The French do marvelous things with vegetables.

>>21459635
>>21457122
I actually read that book while my wife was pregnant, and have been utilizing the strategies in that book on my son. He's a year and a half, as soon as he started eating, he's been fed all kinds of stuff and loves most of it. He's starting to show some preferences, but he still really loves green bell peppers the most. I was a picky kid and I didn't start liking peppers until I was a grown man.

>>21469982
>;_;
>: 3
pedo

>>21457519
I remember this...

There are anons in this thread right now that believe that Jews are conspiring to… make you eat vegetables.

>Ctrl+f 'america'
>dozens of replies
absolutely OBSESSED + deranged to try and pretend only America has this problem, when there are all sorts of memes and jokes in Japan for example about kids hating bell pepper and onion.

>>21470693
You shouldn't admit that aloud, Mr Epstein.

all you need is soy

>>21457066 (OP)
my faggot parents made me stay at the table for hours if i didn't finish my plate. i thought i didn't like veggies but they just cooked them like shit. steamed and all that bs that's been talked about here. I eat veggies now because i know how to cook them and don't speak to them. fuck their asses.

>>21465635
but the one on the left looks sick though