Thread 21492481

What significantly peated Scotches do you enjoy that aren't from Islay or Campbeltown?

i just buy whatever the fuck is on sale at costco

>>21492554
>i just buy whatever the fuck is on sale at costco
I just buy whatever I like at Costco because it's guaranteed to have at least a decent price due to their pricing policy.
I wouldn't spend more than $2 on Talisker, though.

I hate it when I feel anxious, sweating, get tics, shaking - after a day or two, or a week, after drinking.

>>21492481 (OP)
Ballechin is the peated offering from Edradour distillery and has been on a tear the past few years releasing cask strength 18+ year olds that can be acquired for ~ 200 smackers …. Worth a look if that’s your thing

>>21493636
>hags
Eww.

>>21492481 (OP)
I enjoy the clearly superior potable, gin
F everyone in this thread

>>21494274
Is this the best gin in the market?

Finally bought and tried Old Forester 1910.
That's a good fucking whiskey.

>>21494553
Have you had Woodford Reserve Double Oaked?
If so, how does it compare?

>>21494553
1920 is even better imo

whiskey sucks compared to añejos

It's 11:30, do I have another coffee before lunch or give up and open the bottle of Chivas Regal 18 my dad gifted me?

>>21495397
Too late, whiskey time. It's pretty good and smooth but I wouldn't buy a bottle myself, I don't feel like it's worth the price. I've had the 12 years before and it's not a big difference.
I'll try it on ice later.

>>21495395
go make a tequila thread then retard

>Finally try it
>its ok at best
wtf bros. Im so fucking glad I did not pay secondary pricing for this. I honestly think makers is better.
Now the question is. Is SR just bad? is the antique or the 12 year taste similar but just a little better? or is it so different its worth? I dont want to spend hundreds on 12yr for it to taste a bit better than SR

>>21495671
even the 12 is just a hair better. none of it is worth $20(twenty USD) more than msrp.

>>21495528
just stop drinking shit spirits made from dogshit grains

>>21495793
go back Pedro

>>21495395
you post this in every thread

>>21492481 (OP)
>Kilchoman in the OP
Fuck yeah. They’re supposed to be doing a tasting tour in my area in a few months but haven’t released details yet. I love everything I’ve tried from them

>>21496085
in the US?

>>21495671
I haven't had any of them but from what I hear the SR is basically a mixer on the tier of regular Buffalo Trace, Four Roses or 101 that got way overhyped/overpriced because it's Weller

>>21496182
Yes, it’s said “further details to follow” for quite awhile, no updates. Hope it’s not canceled.

>>21495671
>Is SR just bad
Yes, I've said before here that I wouldn't even buy it at MSRP.

>>21496361
So if i see 12 yr or CYPB for hundreds should I go for it or is pretty much the same?

>>21496425
At MSRP yes, but I wouldn't pay that much more for them.

But yes, they are generally better.
Full proof, 12 year, Single Barrel, and William Larue Weller are all good/great.

>>21495056
Woodford reserve is mid. It's so fucking bland.

>>21495671
The full proof weller is the best one, this just the most easy one to find.

>>21496816
Plain Woodford Reserve, sure.
The Double Oaked is very far from bland - it is oaky as fuck. Just oak my shit up senpai.

>>21497048
In fact, I would say it is exactly as oaky as it could possibly be without being excessively tannic/astringent. It's right on the edge.
Literally as oaky as a bourbon can possibly be while still tasting good.

>>21496354
>all gay states
sasuga muhfuckas

>>21496354
also, they've been aging for 20 years and STILL dont have a age stated core range bottling? I know they're independent and all that, but come on now. it's not like they dont charge enough or what have you.

>>21497125
To be fair, older does not necessarily mean better when it comes to peated Scotches.

>>21497722
Yep, the older laphroaig's are actually disappointing since the peat kinda disappears as time goes on.

>>21497722
while true, its probably more to do with the fact an age statement would raise the price and dissuade consumers because low number not as good as big number. Seeing Ardbeg's 5 yr Wee Beastie on shelves for $60 is laughable, but I knew it was coming.

>>21497785
Laphroaig's former head guy of 30 years says its distillate doesn't even become Laphroaig until it's in the 5-6 year old range and their flagship bottling is the 10 year old.

Lots of factors play into the intensity and overall flavor profile across the decades. My Laphroaig 16 that was 100% New American Oak matured is just as peaty as the rest in the core range and some limited releases(Cairdeas).

The profiles only start to significantly shift once into the 20-25 year old stock or if you get something bottled from the Williamson days.

>>21497830
They do 30-33-year releases regularly and the 2 I've had a chance to sample were just not all that interesting.

>>21497838
which 2 were they?

>>21497722
This, I prefer shit younger than 10 yr honestly

>>21496816
the purpose of Woodford Reserve is for bars to make Old Fashioneds with. It's unusually inoffensive, and that quality impresses people when they sip an old fashioned.

>>21498587
Why don't you have a seat over there?

Should I drink this or sell it to some chink for $1000?

>>21499216
>nearly $50 in tax
flip it

>>21499216
sell. its just distilled rye grains

>>21495799
spics cant afford good tequila
stixk to whisky fag

>>21495395
Tequila is good for making cocktails and basically nothing else.

>>21499216
Personally i'd just drink it, but I have already done that with a few $150-300 bottles that I could've flipped for $400-1000.

I enjoy trying new things.

>>21500339
youve obviously never had additive free tequila in your entire life
its literally smoother and more diverse in flavors than whiskey
AND you can age it in wood and it tastes great without the shitty young oak bitterness found in 99% of whiskies

>>21500398
why are you shilling in every whiskey thread? nobody in here gives a fuck about tequila, if they did they'd be posting in a tequila thread

>>21500417
because whiskey is reddit and an ick for girls
chicks dig guys who like tequila
plus it makes em horny

>>21500425
fuck off to your non-existent tequila general

>>21500425
>bruh foids tho

Just picked up an Elijah Craig private barrel, 10 year 120.7 proof and tastes quite hot. More hot tasting than my previous 9 year 123.7 proof bottle.

>>21500456
>paying a premium for GMO corn water

>>21501359
yea my private barrel sucks it tastes lile nyquil

>>21492481 (OP)
Has anyone in here tried Blanton's? I've been trying to get a bottle of it for years now and the one time I tried to get one reserved for my birthday, the bitch sold it thirty minutes after I called to make sure they had it.

>>21501628
>all whisky is corn based
keep trying retardo muttbegone

>>21501638
Whenever I see it for sale, it's always more than I'm willing to pay, so I haven't tried it. I've heard Benchmark Single Barrel comes close flavor-wise.
There are plenty of decent single barrel available though....at my local Costco they have Blue Run private barrel for $99 which was pretty good, and I really like McKenna 10yr BiB, although I've heard people complain that its overpriced and bland.

>>21501638
It's good, but nothing earth shattering.

I buy a bottle every few months (at MSRP, not paying secondary pricing).

>>21502096
>Blue Run
all that stuff is junk. same with Old Elk.

>>21501638
Bland dumbs is a marketing ploy by big sazerac to make their shitty 3 year hot house bourbon seem like a premium. It’s good it’s very good not great not worth a single dollar over msrp and actually more similar to a $50 bottle from any other distillery than the $90 asking point.

>>21502560
nobody wants to talk about tequila man, give it up already

>>21502614
>$90 asking point.
MSRP is $77 here

>>21502661
90$ in Va abc same as Elmer t lee which is insane to me

>>21502759
Actually I’m retarded and included tax in my 90$ price point

>>21502760
>>21502760
Yeah that tracks, $77 with VA 20% tax on liquor is ~$92.50.

In Maryland it's ~$84 after taxes.

For me it's Jack Daniels. The champagne of whiskey.

>>21502628
meds

>>21502661
Yeah, this is the most I've seen it go for in my shitty neck of the woods. I hate that other anons have to pay absurd prices for it. Good to know. Now I don't feel the FOMO as much.

i remember the good old days when i could get a fifth of evan for 12, henry mckenna for 11, benchmark for 9.99... hell even old crow is charging premium prices now.

>When you start finding EH Taylor for $70 everyday

Nature is healing

>>21503263
sounds like your shopping in the wrong place if bottom shelf, plastic bottle swill is being gouged.

>>21503330
>shitty BT bottles Ralfy shilled a decade ago are now available so squeeeeee amirite fellow redditors
and all this time better bourbon has been available for 1/3 the price but you need the clout like a woman

Old Grand-Dad 114 is still cheap af and still mogs all of your sissy foofoo bourbons.

>low/no rye mashbill
Sissy foofoo bourbon.
>under 50% ABV
Sissy foofoo bourbon.

>>21503719
>NOOOOOO! Stop liking things I don't like!!!!!!!

>non-peated
>blend
>ice
>water
I literally laugh out LOUD at these pathetic stupid uncultured fucks!!!

What do poorfag posters of /wg/ drink?

>>21501702
>he doesnt like bourbon
unamerican faggot

Best friend's mom is a former wedding caterer and recovering binge drinker and she's cleaning out her old stash out of the basement. Found a few nice bottles like this beautiful unopened peaty-tasting 70's J&B and...

>>21504674
Yeah. I knew something was up when I looked up the ATF tax code and it was last issued in 1976

>>21504448
you like it for its popularity which is not objective.

>>21504671
Malted Barley > Rye > Corn > Wheat

>>21504674
lucky duck

>>21504685
malt is so one noted.
rye is pretty damn complex for grainshit

>>21504688
modern mat varieties are mostly tuned for yield > flavor and grown in France. plenty a craft offerings use local barley to showcase the terroir.

>>21504709
*modern malt

I've been enjoying Torabhaig peated whisky from Skye. The Cnoc na Moine is their Sherry cask.

>>21504512
This but unironically.

>>21504674
It looks like quite a lot of alcohol has evaporated out of that.

>>21504685
>Malted Barley > Rye > Corn > Wheat
This.

>>21506343
No, it was sealed and unopened, I just took a taste with my friend before taking the photo

>>21504138
Was just going to post about that. Tried it on a recommendation yesterday and I was impressed. $20/750mL and quite good. There are a couple companies that make a decent whiskey and don't overcharge for it still. Wild Turkey 101 comes right to mind.

>>21504685
>Malted Barley > Rye > Corn > Wheat
Based

>>21506908
evaporation can still occur without breaking the seal

>>21492481 (OP)
Blended bilge but a pub me and my parents were at recommended it on my birthday, so I get nostalgic for it

>>21507129
It looked pretty full, as full as any commercially purchased fifth, idk I guess a few mL of evaporation were possible but the metal cap and tax stamp were still intact, so...

The best whisky is coors light

>>21504887
The superior Isle of Skye Whisky

>>21504655
Jim Beam double oaked is not bad. It's a shame they don't offer it in 1.75

>>21507470
unpopular opinion but they should bring back Jacob's Ghost.

>>21507458
Based.

Lads I had Highland Park 40 tonight

I think I ascended to a higher plane of existance for a while

>>21508616
were you treated or did you buy an oz?

>>21508642
Bought but it was a tasting portion, not a full shot of it. The nose and taste were unlike anything I've ever smelled and tasted, the notes I wrote down are basically just nonsense poetry trying to describe it.

>>21508664
NO!!!!!!! You CANT buy a “tasting pour” you FUCKING IDIOT!!!! NOOOOOO What a WASTE OF MONEY, when you could have bought the whole bottle for BETTER VALUE!!!!
But in all seriousness, glad you got to enjoy it, I haven’t tried it yet

>>21508616
oldest thing i've had was 30 years old

>>21508707
The stuff over 20 I've tried so far have been pretty hit and miss, for example the Laphroiag that's 26/28 or something was slop while some independent bottler memes were incredible.

>>21508763
Yeah mine was a 30-year-old Laphroigh and it was not my cup of tea.

oldest I've had is 24 and blended malt with a tactful sherry finish. very unique.

Sippin

>>21509194
I cannot decide if this is based or not until you say whether you added water or not.

>>21509311
Not unless you count the few drops remaining after rinsing the glasses before I poured.

>>21509329
You should have wiped them out with a paper towel or something... but based.

>>21509334
Paper towel leaves a bit of lint/paper fibers sometimes.

But yea I'm not a fan of adding any appreciable quantity of water.

Rare Breed for me this week.

Sazerac Rye may be my favorite cheap rye.

>>21509329
You son of a BITCH

>>21509339
long time no see

>>21509552
I've been broke for a bit but now I'm not

>>21509592
same boat expect for the latter

>>21509631
i hope the other cibi anon is doing well, his pics were better than mine

I just bought my first peated whiskey, Connemara 10 for very cheap. Haven't tried it yet and I'm not really into whiskey, only really tried a few Irish blends/pot stills. I prefer beers, and I enjoy a nice smoked lager like Scherlenkerla. What is the best way to get the most out of this?

>>21509939
pour a glass and let it sit with a cover for an hour. then pour another glass and compare them. peated stuff takes the longest to be affected by air so it'll be a while before you can really notice a change. likely months if your conditions are stable.

>>21509939
>>21510096 is trolling you.

^is the actual troll

>actually drinking Connemara 10
is the real troll

>>21492481 (OP)
>What significantly peated Scotches do you enjo
None. I'll take an irish whisky anyday without the taint of peat or smoke, neither one

>>21492481 (OP)
Yo this shit nice

>>21492481 (OP)
How is Kilchoman? I bought a bottle of it back when it first came out (before they even had stuff old enough to put an age number on it) but I ended up giving it to the manager at my apartment building.

>>21493636
>Edradour
Good stuff, I liked their SFTC offerings, particularly the Sassicaia.

>>21494180
???

>>21511389
Delicious

>>21511389
Its peat has a quite straightforward smokiness to it without any real "weird" flavors that might turn a lot of people off. I find it quite lovely.

>>21509339
How's this compared to WT 8 year

Sales are alright this month

>>21493608
thats called alcoholism anon

>>21512374
Glenfiddich 18 was less than that after tax just 2 years ago. fuck em.

I just got back from a bourbon trail long weekend, did tastings/tours at Heaven Hill, Wild Turkey, Whiskey Thief, Buffalo Trace, James Beam, and Four Roses, I'll do a write up if anyone's interested in hearing about it

>>21512814
Please do. Any purchases?

I wrote up something but it was over the character limit, I'll post it tomorrow but I bought like 8 bottles over the course of the trip

>>21512814
Don’t give a fuck about bourbon, but I’ll still give it a read

>>21513043
>>21513248
>Heaven Hill
I did the "You Do Bourbon Experience," which meant tasting barrel-proof batch varieties of Bernheim, Larceny, Elijah Craig Bourbon, and Elijah Craig Rye, and having the opportunity to bottle one of those yourself. I picked the Larceny offering, it was pretty cool pouring the bottle and labeling it yourself. Food at the restaurant was decent but not amazing. We were too late in the day to have a shot at picking up any Old Fitz allocated stuff if they had it.
>Wild Turkey
We did the Russell’s Reserve tasting, which was pretty cool, the visitor's center was really nice and in a pretty valley. Got to taste Russell's 13 for probably the only time, which was great. Picked up a Russell's Master Distiller Private Select bottle before the tasting because there was only 2 left.
>Whiskey Thief Distilling Co.
This was not originally on the itinerary but got added at the last minute. This was the best experience of all of them, though. It's a very small operation out of basically 2 barns in the middle of nowhere, they don't distribute and you can only get their whiskey from that location. You taste and can bottle your own straight from the barrel, uncut and unfiltered. Nothing blew my socks off, but the 6-year, 120 proof rye was pretty damn good so I bottled my own 350ml bottle from a thief. There was a food truck and good cocktails, dogs, cats, and goats hanging around. It was like having rich neighbors who were throwing a party, very chill.

>>21513690
(cont.)
>Buffalo Trace
By some miracle we got a spot on their main tour, and it was the opposite of Whiskey Thief, a super corporate Disney-like experience with a very rushed and timed-to-the-minute tour. Some of the history was interesting, but it was a blur. The gift shop had Eagle Rare and EH Taylor Small Batch stacked to the ceiling so I grabbed a bottle of each since I can't get it at MSRP where I live. Very soulless for the most part.
>James Beam
We did the "Small Batch Innovation Tasting" which was mostly Knob Creek, Bookers, and Overholt offerings. Got to try KC18 for the first time and bought a bottle for a special occasion but I wasn't impressed by the Bookers stuff.
>Four Roses
This was the bottling and aging facility down the road from Beam, not the distillery. I'd been on this tour before, but I took my brother and his gf since they were more interested in the aging process than the distilling. It was a shorter version of the tour, since they were in their production shutdown for the summer, so we just had a tasting, the usual spiel, and a tour of a rickhouse.
>Misc.
Went to a "speakeasy" type cocktail bar in downtown Louisville called Hell or High Water that was really relaxed and had great cocktails. Also had my first pour of Stagg Jr. at the hotel bar which I really liked, gonna need to find a bottle at some point.

>>21513695
Wild Turkey, Whiskey Thief, BT, and Beam were all on a tour package where we got taken between the distilleries in a sprinter van. Since it was all timed out, we felt a wee bit rushed at times but it was worth it to be able to relax and not have to worry about a DD, plus we got breakfast at a local hotel and our lunch at Whiskey Thief included.

>>21513695
I'm convinced that the majority Buffalo Trace allocation is manufactured.
Buffalo Trace was taken off allocation here in Kansas City recently....before it was almost impossible to find a bottle, now every grocery store and even Costco has giant stacks of Buffalo Trace that nobody is buying. Of course their other stuff is nowhere to be seen in any of the stores (probably sold on the secondary market).

>>21513877
I think you might be right, but I also think they are starting to recover from the massive surge in demand for the allocated stuff. Like I've said in other threads, I know anecdotally that EHT and ER are sitting on shelves in some areas now, but that hasn't happened yet where I live. I wouldn't be surprised if they are deliberately stingy with the Blantons, though. I feel bad for the tour guides at BT because I'm sure they just constantly get questions about how to get Pappy and Blantons (there were drunk boomers on my tour that wouldn't shut up about Blantons)

>>21513877
I work with a major liquor conglomerate and my rep with them was telling me within 1-2 years expect all the allocated stuff to become common. About 4-6 years ago all the distilleries 4x'd production and that stuff is beginning to come out.

>>21513895
I used to see Blantons and Eagle Rare sitting on the shelf years ago, sometimes discounted if nobody was buying it. Most of the interest in BT products is purely because people want what they can't have. That alone is extremely valuable to the distillery.

>>21513690
>There was a food truck and good cocktails, dogs, cats, and goats hanging around.
mexicans make bourbon now?

Just discovered a peanut butter one in my country that is absolutely brilliant and now I can't feel the tips of my fingers. I should clarify I'm an extreme sweet-tooth though

If you're looking for a nice Peated whiskey at a decent price this is one of my new faves

What glasses do you guys enjoy drinking out of? I usually just use a rocks glass and I'm thinking of picking up a glencairn.

>>21514655
I've been using just a generic basic glencarins >>21509194

>>21514655
The Glencairn is perfect for enjoying whisky and really couldn’t be improved in any way shape or form. I have a couple tulip wine glasses that I used to substitute now and then but I’ve come to appreciate my Glencairn so much I bought an extra and always have at least 1 clean and ready to go

theres something about the smell of a glen thats had good whisky in it the day before

Opinions?

>>21514655
>glencairn
Get it

A weeb friend gifted me a bottle of Suntory Toki. I find it too harsh to drink by itself, any idea how to use it? It doesn't seem like it'd be good for the common whisky drinks.

>>21514904
Toki is fine for mixing
It's a fairly light flavor profile overall.

>>21514904
Soda and lemon

>>21514945
>>21514908
Alright I'll try that, thanks

>>21514904
highballs
whiskey sours

>>21514751
price?

>>21514751
I Te Bheag'd yer mum.

>>21514986
>highballs
This is really what it's intended for.

>>21514655
Glencairn.

I drink all my Diageo whiskies out of a Glencairn™

>>21514987
42.75 Canadian

>>21517547
could be worse

I found a bottle of the Old Fitzgerald 7-year BiB, it's very good for the price, I think it's going to be in the regular rotation once it gets easier to get

>>21504655
Glen Moray Elgin Classic. £20 here for a simple single malt with some nice apple notes and none of the harshness that's ubiquitous in cheap scotch. Also Wild Turkey 101.

>>21519123
>ubiquitous in cheap scotch
it's not as bad in single/blended malts as opposed to blended scotch because the column still grain components are purely filler, leaving you tasting the good stuff less and the bad more.

Lismore NAS is 100% Glenfarclas single malt aged 3-8 years in tired hogsheads and usually cheaper than Glen Moray. biggest difference is Glenfarclas official bottlings will be sherry matured because its character lends itself to that flavor range whereas Glen Moray is fine in ex bourbon. for not much more money Arran's and Glencadam's start to become available.

also cheap scotch is easily improved with tea spooning in practically any single malt, especially if its heavily peated and/or high proof. dont be afraid to do home blends in a glass as an experiment. just be conservative in your ratios to start with and see how it goes. I find most variations quite favorable.

allocated releases this weekend

>>21519193
If those willetts are MSRP it might be worth picking one up.

Though the only one with a lot of bottles is the 11 year and would likely be $400-500, even without a markup.

>>21519208
Yeah, the 11 years are about $500
The 9 year is $350
The 7 year is $250

>>21519219
>$50 per year
fuck off

>>21519219
all tater bait

>>21519193
gimme that Knob Rye 10

>>21519239
Too bad only 4 bottles. Though I had it last year when it first came out.

And I've actually had a Willett single barrel before, though it was 8 years old and only $300.

Not sure i'd want to spend $500 on one.

>>21519178
I don't know why you decided to quote me with the obvious fact that malts are less harsh than blends and then monologuing about your market that I don't live in and wasn't talking about. It's cool that Glen Moray is at a different price point there than here in Scotland though, I'm happy for you.

>>21519268
cuz fuck you that's why bitch

>>21519178
Probably the best advice I got watching ralfie vids is that if you pour an older whisky for your 1st dram remember to leave a few drops in the glass before pouring something younger / cheaper for your 2nd and a surprising amount of the character of the old whisky will carry over and really boost the younger basic stuff to something a bit more enjoyable

>>21519193
Michter's 10-year rye is the no-brainer if it's still available

>>21519368
I'm probably going to try to get that and a weller 12

>The local Jewel Osco near me has had multiple bottles of EH Taylor, Weller SR, and Eagle Rare on the shelf at MSRP for over a week now

Thank god, the crash is here.

>>21520276
just in time for everyone to fight over scraps from the dumpster

Just marathoned a bottle of this, what did I think?

Very light tasting compared to what I mostly drink but not bad, smooth, spicy and fruity (apple or citrus?). Worth a try or for people that want easier whiskey with taste to drink. I liked it better when I had it in 2018, more pretty and floral tasting.

Anyone tried Rock Island?
I heard it's really good for 40.

>>21522381
Not sold around here

>>21519374
>>21519368
Bastards were lined up at 6am for the michters.
And by 8am there were enough people in line for the Weller 12s as well. I didn't get there until 10 minutes before opening (10am) fuck lining up for hours.

Ended up paying up for the Willett, at least I know I'll enjoy it, and I was paying MSRP instead of some 2ndary cuck pricing.

I'm gonna crack it open in a few minutes, fuck taters reselling and collecting.

>>21522594
>>21522597
One of the best pours I've ever had.

Has a bit of bite to it, but at 125.8 proof not unexpected. Has the classic willett "funk" (IYKYK) and a good bit a spice to it, very drinkable but I'll be savoring it for special occasions going forward.

I'll do a taste comparison with my 8-year willett at some point (not today).

>>21522656
Just had a bourbon burp and it was very grape forward. Would sip again.

I bought a bottle of fernet out of curiosity and that was the worst drink I ever tasted.

i got a mini of chivas regal 15
it was pleasant, unoffensive. mouthfeel not overly thin. would get again, but grand old parr already fills that role on my shelf

>>21522381
I got this one a while back. I like it, but the rum finish is quite subtle and the peat is still the main aspect.

>>21522656
Enjoy anon, far beyond what i'd pay for a bottle, but I'm glad to see it's not just sitting on the shelf of a collector.

>>21522656
It would have to be one of the best pours I've ever had for the MSRP they're charging these days for the purple tops. Like, if you got a King of Kentucky in an allocated raffle it'd probably be cheaper and maybe way better

>>21521740
you will now compare everything to it. "why spend $100 for this when i could have uigedail?"

>>21514655
my favorite came in a glenmorangie gift box. it's a rocks glass with a thick base and it curves inwards so the top/opening is smaller than the base

>>21513877
>even Costco has giant stacks of Buffalo Trace that nobody is buying
that's a $20 bottle that people only hunted for during the absolute peak of the bourbon hype train. it was never better than any other bottle in its price range, it was just an option. here, back in the day, you'd see eagle rare and blanton's on the shelf before people knew how good they were for the price, and they were fucking heavenly, but that's it - it's great bourbon AT MSRP, when eagle rare was $30 and blanton's was $40. none of it was ever worth the hype when you could just buy scotch instead

>>21513877
Buffalo Trace burned all their goodwill with people who actually enjoy drinking and I won't buy it until its cheaper than Evan Williams.

I do enjoy Larceny BP

>>21522386
That's a shame, heard it's really good for the price.

>>21523311
Nice, how strong is the peat? I wanted to try a scotch with tastes more unique to them. Something smoky/maritime but not something that's overpowering and this was supposed to be a nice balance.

>>21521935
I love Hibiki and Chita. Are Yamazaki and Hakushu worth it?

>>21524993
NTA, but I've had both recently and really enjoyed them.

Though they're overpriced in the US

>>21524999
>>21524993

>>21524999
>>21525000
Digits confirm them as good choices, and thanks for the recommendation. Opinion’s on Macallan?

>>21525043
Macallan is almost more overpriced than Japanese whisky, they've wholly gone in the direction of price = quality and turned the brand into a status symbol.

You don't buy Macallan because it tastes the best, you buy it to show off. Not to say they don't make good whisky, it just isn't worth what they charge.

The 12 year is fine if you just want a taste, but I wouldn't buy any of the $200-500+ bottles.

I'm an euro and I don't know a whole lot about bourbon, can someone explain what the deal with insanity like >>21519219 is? 500 dollars for 11y, are they out of their minds? Is there a big fad and the supply can't meet it or something?

>>21525062
In europe that bottle would be closer to $1000-1500

They're not made in massive quantities, as you can see here >>21522597, it's 1 of 128 bottles from that barrel. So only 128 bottles will ever exist for that specific bourbon.

Beyond that they're sought after and well liked by the people who hunt for them.

The European prices are even higher because they just don't get imported to Europe much at all.

>>21525062
>>21525069
And it depeneds on the specific release/barrel as well, some will only be $500-600, others can be well beyond that.

MSRP right now for the 11 years is right around $500 though, so anything over that is 2ndary pricing.

>>21525046
There's absolutely no point in buying Macallan 12 Sherry Oak as Glendronach 12 absolutely mogs it for much less.
Never tried the Macallan 12 Double Cask and it doesn't really interest me so I likely never will.

>>21525085
I mean, i'm personally not against trying something new for the first time just to see how it is.

I agree in general Glendronach 12 is a much better value and tastes better, but that doesn't mean i'd say you should NEVER try the Macallan 12. Trying new shit is fun, even if it's not the best value in that price/age range.

>>21525085
>>21525093
Is it worth it to buy both the old and new Glendronach 12?

>>21525081
Not sure about the rest of Europe, but there are some shops in the UK that have bought Willett barrels and sold them at the "proper" suggested retail price, I've seen an 8, 9, and 11 year at non-secondary pricing in the UK. But that's only because they're buying the whole barrels.
Individual bottles from barrels not released in Europe can still go for £75+/year.

>>21525105
Only the label changed.

>>21525138
Thanks

One last question is the Chivas Royal Salute worth it?

>is [40% ABV whiskey] worth it?
No.

>>21525206
Worth what?

>>21525305
It’s cheap for a 21 yo, but I’m a newfag when it comes to whiskey, so I want to know if it’s worth it compared to a Chivas 18 or if I’m paying for the brand.

>>21525069
>>21525081
Holy shit, to put it in perspective you could probably buy armangac that's sat in a barrel over multiple world wars for those prices.

>>21524529
its unique enough and isnt necessarily the peat monster you can expect from Islay. I wish I had gotten one of. the older age statement bottlings when it was called Rock Oyster.

>>21525138
price went up on the new range

>>21525318
be wary of ceramic bottles, age is something that only good barrels can do and blends often do not see the most quality wood. I'd say if you must have one, try to find the one with the highest score on whiskybase.

>>21525359
>price went up on the new range
The 12 doesn't look any more expensive to me on Wine Searcher.

>>21525326
>isnt necessarily the peat monster you can expect from Islay
Good to hear, I am gonna order one right now.
Thanks a lot.

>>21525322
That's not even close to the most expensive bourbon either.


Some of the older pappy 23 releases go for insane prices. Pic related, a 1998 pappy 23 going for ~$34,000

>>21526072
secondary market gonna secondary, I think the actual comparison is the MSRP and I'm pretty sure those Willett purple tops are more expensive than even (current) Pappy 23

>>21526143
Pappy 23 MSRP is around $430.

So it's similar to the willetts at around $450-500.

>>21526145
Must have gone up I guess (no point in keeping up with the MSRP of bottles you never have access to), I thought they were still like $350

>>21526174
I'm just basing it off my local government-run liquor pricing since they're legally required to sell at cost.

So there might be a slight upcharge over MSRP to cover handling and storefront operations, but it isn't 2ndary pricing.

>>21526260
>>21526174
And here is the highest price I've seen for a bourbon without markup.

I'm sure more expensive stuff exists, but I've never seen it.

im drinking this goddamn johnnie walker

>>21526287
which one?

I'm about to have a pour of elijah craig

>>21526288
green label :)

>>21526290
Probably the best one desu

>>21526290
Nice

>>21526315
cheers anon

>>21526310
it's a good one. i have too many open bottles because i used to drink them a lot faster so i didn't mind opening many. now i only have small pours rarely and it's always a game of trying to use one up before i get into the good stuff

>>21525043
>Macallan

>>21526287
Probably the worst one desu

>>21526290
Probably the worst one desu

>Thread is all scotch
Where my bourbonheads at

>>21527559
I like both. Rye and Irish too.
I like whisk(e)y.

>>21527559
There are several bourbon posts in this thread.

Elijah Craig 21526315
Larceny 21524526
Willett 21522656
Short Mountain 21511370
Sazerac 21509454
Wild Turkey 21509339
a different Elijah bottle, but same poster as the other 21509194
Jim beam 21507470
Blantons 21502661
Michters 21499216
Weller 21495671


Hell, there are more bourbon posts than scotch posts.

>>21527568
>Hell, there are more bourbon posts than scotch posts.
That's always the case in these threads if you don't count the eternal war between the Diageo Shill and anti-Diageo schizo.

>>21528112
As a bourbon guy I agree

That said, I'm looking for Irish whiskey recommendations. I want to try some good-but-entry-level stuff but I also need a recommendation of a really nice bottle as a gift from my dad since he's a big fan

Diego fuck up everything they touch. they own plenty of Rum and American whiskey brands too.

>>21528125
Redbreast 12 is the most commonly recommended, but if you're already used to high proof then get the 12 cask strength. Greenspot is my go to Irish whiskey. Power's Johns Lane is great too.

>Thread is all bourbon
Where my scotchheads at

>>21528151
Thanks anon, Redbreast and Green (or Yellow) Spot were definitely on my radar. I've had the regular Power's before and I liked it. I definitely just need to drink more Irish because I'm not familiar with the flavor profiles

>>21528125
Lost Irish is incredible

maded a whiskey sour and a sazerac cocktail tonight
i'd do them both again but the jack daniels highball is still the best cocktail

>>21531002
I wish I could have cocktails and stop after 2 or 3

>>21531095
A dram of scotch I can easily stop after 2, even 1.
Well mixed cocktails or beers- very hard to stop

>>21530392
It's clearly not lost if you're able to purchase it.

>>21531095
i only drink like an ounce of liquor most of the time, having no urge for more for weeks potentially. i'm forcing myself to get through some of my open bottles currently so that's why i'm even making cocktails

jack daniels and perrier water in a highball glass with a lemon wedge is something i could drink every night though

what kind of cocktails are you making anon? i got on a martini kick once upon a time but i haven't bought vermouth in forever

>>21533034
I only drink my spirits neat or with a little water. I dont really keep any cocktail ingredients around apart from liquor, sugar, and lemons. I have experimented with peated scotch + aged rum + 7Up & pineapple juice on lots of crushed ice with good results as well as making a killer batch of egg nog a few years back.

Not only would I not want to stop enjoying mixed drinks, I dont have the expendable funds to continue that lifestyle. It's best this way.

>>21492481 (OP)
Ummm so I have too much fucking whisk(e)y it’s spilling out of my closet and now starting to take up a second closet. Why the fuck are people doing this whisky hoarding shit again? I’m kind of at a loss for words as to why I do this…
Is there a place to sell whisky? I don’t even care about whisky that much anymore after a decade of this collecting nonsense. Yeah it tastes like fucking whisky big whoop. There will always be a decent bottle to buy on the shelf there is no need to hoard it. Stupid fucking hobby I never should have started. I’m not buying any more bottles for another decade unless I sell a lot of this shit.
I drink one 50ml pour of whisky a couple times a week. At this rate I might never run out of whisky before I die and then my whisky collection gets passed to someone that doesn’t even give a fuck about it.

>>21499216
Drink it faggot

>>21507458
You guys shit on talisker too much but keep driving down the price for me because it’s overpriced like everything else these days

>>21499216
Tater moron
>>21522656
chad bourbon enjoyer

Was out and about today, tasted a bunch of 20+ year independent bottler scotch from distilleries I've never even heard about.

Beautiful. Vibrant. Other Gordon Ramsay buzzwords.

>>21534275
>other Gordon Ramsay buzzwords
Tosser.
Donkey.
Muppet.
Big-Boy.

>>21534111
>it’s spilling out of my closet and now starting to take up a second closet
same
>I’m kind of at a loss for words as to why I do this…
because you buy a bottle then hear of something else interesting and buy that because a bottle of whiskey takes forever to get through and you’re bored of it after a few drams compared to the shiny new unknown bottle
>I’m not buying any more bottles for another decade
problem solved
>I drink one 50ml pour of whisky a couple times a week
the alternative way to solve the problem is to up your drinking rate. that’s what I did and I’ve been chipping away through my backlog quite nicely. After I’m back down to a reasonably sized collection I probably won’t inflate it again since I’ve gone through the “everything’s new and exciting to me” phase and will only pick up truly obscure niche shit moving forward. (In other words I will continue to buy a bunch of whiskies and drink them at an excessive rate)
WHAT A LIFE

>>21534479
>In other words I will continue to buy a bunch of whiskies and drink them at an excessive rate
Unfathomably based

>>21492481 (OP)
About to get a stop work order in late September due to government shit, effectively becoming jobless. This was right after me starting to get into whiskey too. So, what are the best budget sippers for you guys? Wild Turkey 101 was pretty good for me. I can't get scotches anymore probably. How poverty tier can whiskey get before it's just undrinkable neat?

>>21535486
>I can't get scotches anymore probably
$20 handle of Dewar's at Costco bro.

>>21535698
NJ unfortunately. But is Dewar's alright at all? Haven't tried it yet. I basically only drink neat or with a big ice cube.

>>21535761
Yeah. I like it neat. It's better than the more expensive Johnnie Walker Black.
It's not going to blow you away or anything but it's perfectly sippable and is a cheap way to get your Scotch fix.
Other good bargain bottles are Evan Williams Bonded, Old Grand-Dad Bonded, Old Grand-Dad 114 and Old Forester Rye.

>>21535770
As I was walking past the cheapest, I saw Mellow Corn and a giant plastic jug called JTS Brown BiB. Is all Bonded stuff just generally decent cause it's 100 proof?

>>21535782
>Is all Bonded stuff just generally decent cause it's 100 proof?
That and it's all aged for a minimum of four years.

>>21535934
It's pretty funny that they have to legally be "pretty decent."

I can’t eat food without also consuming bourbon and beer. Is this alcoholism?

>>21536066
Ridiculously based

>>21535486
some of the cheapest bottles are completely drinkable and delicious. look for the absolute cheapest stuff and try each one until you decide one tastes good to you. they're all manufactured to be massively appealing. for me it's jack daniels (not bonded. their formula tastes best at 40% in their old no. 7 bottle) but you can go cheaper than that and be just fine. for jim beam i would recommend bonded over the white label but again it's drinkable as can be, it's made to be that way. the question is which one has a mashbill that your taste buds will prefer. you can find bottles for $10 or less that are fine

>>21535782
mellow corn is awesome but a lot of stores started charging a premium for it because it became a meme

>>21536903 here
i haven't had this but it sounds like what you're looking for if you're wanting bottled in bond. i guarantee if you line this up next to jim beam BIB and EW white label it's every bit as good

>>21535486
the famous grouse
just look for the bird

>>21536903
>some of the cheapest bottles are completely drinkable
Yeah I mean even Evan Williams Black Label is very drinkable. A bit watery, but very drinkable, and a handle of it is cheap as fuck.

fuck it i poured some buffalo trace
sometimes i forget how good it actually is

>>21492481 (OP)
Black Booster

>>21536903
>>21536934
I will take the advice. Literally try the cheapest stuff possible and see if any are appealing. I watched a vid and someone said Ezra Brooks 90 Proof is a stealth hit, so I will try that as well.

>>21537164
Wow!
Truly men's hour!

>>21537057
I had never tried a buffalo trace product, but I bought a bottle of benchmark bonded on a whim, and it was great. I like rye more than bourbon, so if I see the new Sazerac 100 proof, or a high proof blantons at a reasonable price I'll buy it. Any other recs?

>>21534275
>Other Gordon Ramsay buzzwords.
"Right. Whiskey, nice and hot."

Also, what whiskey should I use for my steak glaze tonight? I've got some Bulleit rye, Four Rose small batch, and Sexton Irish whiskey.

Last Friday was my birthday and I went golfing with a friend and I ultimately got super drunk, with shots of crown royal followed by a John Daly at the bar being the nail in the coffin. I haven't drank since. I'm embarrassed to think of how I acted at the bar.
More deeply, my dad died of alcoholism like 20 years ago now. I often had dreams where he'd embarrass me and then I kill him. But last night I had a dream where I was about to do just that, but then I hugged him and told him I get it, it's the hardest thing I have to deal with in my life, that I'm not mad but understand.
I'm sure I'll drink again before long, and I'll probably die from it, but this little break has been nice.
My favorite whiskey is larceny. Well, that's what I drink the most of. My dad drank natty lights and Canadian mist.

>>21537896
prolly 4 roses

>>21538003
Life's tough, but no reason to die from drinking.

>>21524999
>>21525000
My Costco has the Hibiki 21 Year for $800. I don't play Magic anymore so I'm considering selling my card collection to grab it.

>>21538393
$800 is at least back down to somewhat reasonable, but still fetching a heavy premium just cause japan.

>>21538393
I just sold my action figure collection for $700. Probably going to get a nice bottle of scotch then blow the rest at some restaurant in town.

mogged

>>21538766
nice

>>21538805
>>21538766
Bourbon is better but rye isnt bad too.

>>21537809
>Any other recs?
If you mean by buffalo trace, there is an e.h. taylor straight rye but good luck finding that. I think it is a higher rye mashbill than sazerac which would give it that dill and rye bread profile, which is what I like.

I like Willett Family Estate 4 year rye

>>21538766
Is this similar to Alberta Premium?

Is this thread strictly for whiskey or can all liquor be discussed? I thought it used to say alcohol general

>>21539246
/alck/ used to be a thing
not sure what happened

I've been told to get a bottle of elijah craig 18 year. Knowing fuck all about bourbon is that a good buy? Meant to be for a special occasion and okay with being a bit pricey

>>21538419
The bottom price here, in each year, is the Japanese price? How much would a pour of this be in a bar in Japan? I saw a video of that meme bartender pouring this over a big ice. I would imagine that the ice would completely defeat the purpose of such an expensive pour.

>>21539536
No, bottom price is US price, just the lowest price found for that year.

In Japan the MSRP is ¥55,000 (~$375) but it's very hard to find at that price, even in Japan. More likely you'd pay ¥80,000-110,000 ($550-750).

A pour in a bar would likely run ¥5,000-10,000 ($35-70) depending on location and availability.

>>21539542
Last time in Japan, I wasn't yet into whiskey, so next time I go, I'll definitely do some of these more expensive pours, and maybe even grab a bottle to take back home. Izakaya highballs were like 250 yen depending on the area you were in; I was drunk almost every night. What a great vacation.

>>21539548
Duty free at Narita is your best bet for finding rare bottles that aren't inflated price.

>>21539558
Gotcha, I was always going to fly into Haneda for the convenience, but I'll try Narita next time to get a stellar deal. That being said, might not do Tokyo next time at all. Was thinking of doing a month long Kyushu trip.

>>21539585
I enjoy taking trains across Japan, but I'm turbo autism.

>>21539593
Every non-underground metro train is completely kino. I did the Enoden to go to Enoshima, and that's even pretty basic, but it was just awesome. Yeah there's that "Thing, Thing Japan" meme, but it was great because of the ease, and the safe and clean culture. Avoid Africans and Kurdish trying to lure you into bars and you're 100% safe there, even while blasted in Kinshicho.

>>21522656
Pic of the two together

picked up some j&b rare today and a fifth of benchmark full proof
i used to hunt for the "good" stuff but finding cheap stuff to keep me drunk and satisfied is even better

should i pick this up on sale for $29 + tax

>>21540815
No

>>21540860
true

>>21542310
I think it's fine to use a big cube for a cheaper pour, or a rye on ice is great for Summer months, but when people spend $50 on a pour and still use ice? I don't get it. You simply cannot be tasting what you've paid for.

>>21542333
>checked
This, but when I'm trying something new I'll add a couple drops of water to see if I get any different notes. I haven't had anything yet that was BETTER that way, though.

>>21542410
Yeah but that's fine and normal. Ice mutes flavors and smells. If I see a guy with ice and he gets anything over even a $15 pour, I'll frown at him. You can get a Larceny for like $9 or $7 at happy hour.

>>21542310
>same retard posts same image in EVERY thread

>>21542422
Icing a wheated bourbon is fine because it's lacking flavor to begin with.
In fact, might as well do it while riding a Doc Johnson Titanmen Intimidator because drinking a wheated bourbon is gay to begin with.

>>21542310
>adding water to whiskey
Me? I add a pinch of salt

>>21542592
A little bit of sugar never hurts either

>>21542541
Wheaters can have a myriad of smells and flavors that I don't get elsewhere. Stone fruits and some slight petrol even. Even Larceny small batch has some interesting flavors but you will NOT detect these if you use ice.

>>21542850
i probably wood detect them because my pallet is advanced :)

>>21539534
they notoriously over oaked and overpriced. look for one of the older Knob Creek bottles

>>21542898
older knob creek is well known to be worse than the 12 year

12 year is the sweet spot

15 can also be good if you like more oak.

18 is bad.

>>21542919
I'm in the minority that really likes the 18, but yes the 12 is by far the best, especially for the value; it's not easy to find a 12-year bourbon from anyone for under $70

>>21543003
if you keep your eye out for the single barrel Knob's you can find ones even older.
>$60 after tax

>>21543324
ofc pic didnt upload

>>21542541
Nigga wheated good you are just too poor for pappy so you seethe

>>21543549
Nah.
The quality of a bourbon or rye whiskey is directly proportional to the percentage of rye in the mash bill.

>>21543549
Maker's, Rebel Yell and Larceny are all wheated and under $30, retard. even Weller is under $50 at msrp.

Make a new thread

>>21543891
No u

>>21543408
where in missouri is that from?

Some cool anon made this a month or so ago for me when I asked for beginner suggestions. Anyone got any similar ones for other types or whiskeys, scotch, rye, etc.?

>>21544645
>Kirkland bourbon is 1792
yikes

>>21544694
I didn't get into whiskey until I moved to NJ, so I can't try out the cheapy Costco and Sam's offerings. Worst part is that I used to be in TN. Fuck me right.

>>21544694
Don't like 1792? Even the SmB is pretty good. Common to find in bars as one of the cheaper options.

>>21544749
I have no issue with 1792, but Kirkland bourbon is not that. It's basically overstock reject barrels from Barton. It's really only good as a mixer.

>>21544757
Well I think the guy who made it was an alcoholic. Have you tried the BiB and Barrel Proof Kirkland, as he suggested?

>>21544766
Yes, I tried the BiB, and it wasn't that good. It's not overpriced but it's not a value either. Anyone claiming it's the same as 1792 is out of their damn mind.

>>21544780
Good to know, won't bother if I get the opportunity. Otherwise, those stores have some good deals on typical whiskey names.

>>21510641
Since trying it, I have to admit I can taste absolutely no peat whatsoever

Its alright, sweet. But whats the point?