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Anonymous No.149875098 >>149875117 >>149875132 >>149875141 >>149877329 >>149877682 >>149877941 >>149882414 >>149882737 >>149887481 >>149889762 >>149890558 >>149895466 >>149895537 >>149899170 >>149899456 >>149903212 >>149903221 >>149909464 >>149917021 >>149917824 >>149926475 >>149927028 >>149927491 >>149938407
>here's your cartoon protagonist bro
Anonymous No.149875117 >>149877634 >>149878063 >>149890558
>>149875098 (OP)
Would've been infinitely better if Peridot was the MC.
Anonymous No.149875132
>>149875098 (OP)
Disgusting.
Anonymous No.149875141 >>149877649
>>149875098 (OP)
So close to greatness, Steven, yet still so far away......
Anonymous No.149875150
Anonymous No.149875256 >>149877649 >>149898077
>THIS IS LIFE FOR YOU NOW
>ENDLESS SUFFERING
Anonymous No.149876217 >>149877680 >>149878828 >>149893440 >>149897934
We never knew how good we had it in 2014. We took that era for granted.
Anonymous No.149876844 >>149923504
Anonymous No.149877329 >>149908432
>>149875098 (OP)
Adult Steven is kino though
Anonymous No.149877634
>>149875117
FPBP, if the show was about Peridot instead then it would have been like 50 times as popular. Her episodes were fan favorites
Anonymous No.149877649 >>149877665
>>149875141
Pic related
>>149875256
>THIS IS LIFE FOR YOU NOW
>ENDLESS SUFFERING
This has been true to some degree since 2010 for me. I hate life
Anonymous No.149877665 >>149877735
>>149877649
Why do you hate life, anon? I mean, besides your waifu not being real
Anonymous No.149877680 >>149879997
>>149876217
Out of all the bad things to have happen within the past decade, Cartoon networks SOL and preschool eras of the later 2010s and 2020s has been one of the most rage inducing and soul crushing events to occur for me. Same with DTVA canceling all their lore shows to focus in reboots of shit from the past that wasnt even good when it originally came out. Animation is fucking dead
Anonymous No.149877682
>>149875098 (OP)

>ripped off an episode of TTA for Steven's look

disgraceful!
Anonymous No.149877735 >>149877780 >>149912807
>>149877665
>Why do you hate life, anon? I mean, besides your waifu not being real
I have no real permanent friends IRL, anyone online barely talks anymore compared to how they used to chat with me, mental illness is corrupting my psyche more and more. Ive been HEAVILY suicidal within the last year especially too and the meds cant ever fully fix the problem and i dont really like my therapist all that much. I just want things to get better and i HATE reality and life for fucking up so much and how the trajectory of events both in the world and in my life have mostly been on a downward spiral for the last 15 years. I want it to end but as much as i wanna kill myself i cant bare to have my dad find my rotting corpse after i an hero so i have to grit and bear it for now as much as i hate existing

Also yes, i hate that peridot is not real as well too
Anonymous No.149877780 >>149877840
>>149877735
...That is quite the problem, I know it can't fix all that or anything but have you at least tried some sort of hobby to get your mind off things? For me walking and cycling helped a lot to keep me going
Anonymous No.149877840 >>149877892
>>149877780
I live in a shithole redneck area so there are barely any activities or social events for anyone that isnt a literal child or elderly. Society just doesnt care about people in my demographic and i resent society all the same for it. Also its been too hot for walking at all in the last two years. I want to meet friends with like minded interests around my own age but there just isnt anything sociable in my area and the internet is designed against socializing like it used to be merely 5 or so years ago. Im tired of life, i know i cant kill myself but sometimes i really deeply want to. I want so very deeply for things to get better but after 10+ years of events going downhill why would they suddenly change course out of the blue and improve now? I dont know if life will ever return to normal ever again or if ill ever not want to shoot my brains out anymore past this point
Anonymous No.149877892 >>149877940
>>149877840
Things will never get any better for you as long as you don't find something you enjoy doing, there are online activities you could enjoy too like as another example I learned to code because I said fuck it one day to challenge myself in creating stuff and learning how computers work. This is just my experience and I can't tell you what you're going to enjoy but it proves there's things you could be missing out on
Anonymous No.149877940 >>149877996
>>149877892
>Things will never get any better for you as long as you don't find something you enjoy doing
I need to draw more so i should probably focus on doing that some more instead of sitting around depressed all day. I stopped regularly drawing for some years when i realized i missed the chance to get into animation and ive only drawn infrequently since and my skill has decayed as a result
Anonymous No.149877941
>>149875098 (OP)
He could be better, even if I get what they were going for I don't really care for him.
Him and his father comes off as annoying as hell rather than whimsical.
Anonymous No.149877967 >>149878039 >>149878055 >>149883267 >>149901926 >>149914447
Question to everyone who disliked the ending - what Steven should have done INSTEAD of sparing the Diamonds? Kill them? He tried, they're too tough. They feel guilty now but not so guilty they would agree to execution. Imprison them? Again, only if they agree which they probably wont.

One idea is to just befriend them and kill them while their guard is down but a) that is insanely risky and might get everyone on your side killed, just because you feel like justice wasn't delivered. b) You might star war again because without Diamond's support all Gems might not surrender.
Anonymous No.149877996 >>149878055 >>149878085
>>149877940
Exactly anon, your brain is starved for shit to do and if it keeps searching and doesn't find anything then it's gonna hate life. Do more of what you love and maybe challenge yourself to be hellbent on achieving something hard that you previously thought only people of way higher skill than you could do
Anonymous No.149878039
>>149877967
Besides the fact that they could have written the diamonds to not be a family of genocidal maniacs who are too powerful to actually fight against, he could have used a suped up version the poof weapon and field they introduced alongside Jasper.
They have 3 tech related characters who would have been enough to explain the upgrade, leading to their bubbling and possible reset.
Anonymous No.149878055 >>149878085 >>149878126
>>149877967
I didnt hate the OG shows ending so much rather i hated futures ending a whole lot more
>>149877996
Okay, ill try to focus on drawing more. Thanks for talking to me anon
Anonymous No.149878063 >>149878231
>>149875117
Just because a character is good doesn't mean they should be the main character
Anonymous No.149878085 >>149878126
>>149877996
>>149878055
Looking forward to drawing course at the end of this year. I know I don't need it but getting some fundamentals and personal guidance helps.
Anonymous No.149878126
>>149878055
No problem anon, hope things do get better for you
>>149878085
Good luck!
Anonymous No.149878231 >>149887261
>>149878063
They should at least get a lot of screen time. I'm leaning more towards a Peridot spin-off where we get to see her history before she came to the Earth and also more gem lore in general. It's absolutely retarded that a townie nobody cares about is getting that spin-off when we know the main complaint from SU fans is that the show focuses too much on irrelevant townie shit, if it does contain Peridot and more gem lore though I might give it a shot but knowing Rebecca I'm keeping my expectations low
Anonymous No.149878828 >>149878858
>>149876217
Bottom right is literally a Gumball character wtf is this shit
Anonymous No.149878858
>>149878828
Prince Ivan doe was made by the same studio as gumball
Anonymous No.149879866
Anonymous No.149879997 >>149880037 >>149880038 >>149881887 >>149895485
>>149877680
How bout you guys grow up and quit watching toons for kids?
Anonymous No.149880037
>>149879997
Shut up zaslav
Anonymous No.149880038 >>149892421
>>149879997
>How bout you guys grow up and quit watching toons for kids?

im sorry your childhood sucked so bad that you have to give up anything you used to like or wanted to like, and as a result you are mad at other adults for doing what they like.
Anonymous No.149880610 >>149880652 >>149880688
>a fat jew who grows up around dykes, eats goyslop all day and dates an indian
Who the fuck though this was a good idea?
Anonymous No.149880652
>>149880610
A normal person who doesn't browse /pol/ all day
Anonymous No.149880688 >>149881102
>>149880610
Steven is Jewish now?
Anonymous No.149881102 >>149881155
>>149880688
He has black hair, black eyes and puffy hair
Anonymous No.149881155
>>149881102
The Peri Gestapo will be arriving shortly then
Anonymous No.149881887
>>149879997
You're on /co/- Comics and Cartoons
Anonymous No.149882414 >>149882455
>>149875098 (OP)
why is he so lame
Anonymous No.149882455 >>149882465
>>149882414
elaborate
Anonymous No.149882465 >>149882703
>>149882455
He's literally some fat kid who cries and eats shit, he also couldn't use his shield for the first or two seasons until fucking Uncle Grandpa helped him do it
Anonymous No.149882703 >>149882709 >>149882712 >>149906481
>>149882465
He also subdued a galactic empire
Anonymous No.149882709 >>149883061
>>149882703
But very gayly.
Anonymous No.149882712
>>149882703
thru plot armor because he's a Mary Sue
Anonymous No.149882737
>>149875098 (OP)
Its truly impressive how Sugar designed a character that inspires hatred instinctually.
Anonymous No.149883061
>>149882709
>not being retarded is gay
Anonymous No.149883267 >>149889678
>>149877967
People don't really understand there wasn't any way for Steven to win with violence, the Diamonds were far too powerful to beat in a fight, its the one time when a peaceful diplomatic approach was the best ending.
Not to mention even if he had defeated the diamonds and shattered them, well done now the entire Gem Empire will be out for revenge since they practically all worship the Diamonds as gods and were essential to the entire Gem race.
Anonymous No.149884655 >>149886404 >>149886438
I really want to clobber him to death with a lead pipe, does that make sense? Like, I want to feel his bones get crushed in my clenched fists.
Anonymous No.149884677
Anonymous No.149886404 >>149886423
>>149884655
Why?
Anonymous No.149886423 >>149886448
>>149886404
he's gay
Anonymous No.149886438
>>149884655
It does. It does make sense
Anonymous No.149886448 >>149886456
>>149886423
How?
Anonymous No.149886456 >>149912653
>>149886448
He cries and wears skirts when singing
Anonymous No.149886849 >>149899986
VGH... vvhat covld have been
Anonymous No.149887008 >>149887039 >>149887149
POST MORE GEMS
Anonymous No.149887039 >>149887149
>>149887008
Anonymous No.149887149
>>149887008
>>149887039
Anonymous No.149887261 >>149887415
>>149878231
Lars needs it more than Peridot. Peridot is already a complete well executed side character while Lars was clearly the most held back. We're getting your precious gem lore through Lars which makes more sense since he wants to be on space while Peridot doesn't give a fuck about the Diamonds or space.
Anonymous No.149887415 >>149888468 >>149888530
>>149887261
Nobody cares about lars, Sugar sharing your way of thinking is what got us all the shitty townie hiatus episodes when the show should have been focusing on the relevant things like gems and gem lore. Also Peridot is clearly a wasted potential character, she never got her limb enhancers back she never used her metal powers to their full potential she never went on a mission despite joining the CGs and she never got a backstory, this is a pretty commonly agreed on fact
Anonymous No.149887481
>>149875098 (OP)
>has a deadbeat, albeit loving, dad
>raised by three emotionally compromised women
>turns into a gay wimp
many such cases.
Anonymous No.149888468 >>149889123
>>149887415
Doesn't matter, people did want and suggest a Lars and crew spinoff. He's supposed to be important but didn't get the chance to be properly fleshed out. His new arc was the most obvious deserving spinoff bait ever. Lars of the Stars answers Lars' shafting, is CONFIRMED to provide more gem lore and serves as a proper continuation.
>She never got her enhancers back
That was intentional and meant to show that Peridot doesn't need them. All of what you said is extra, not needed at all. Peridot is the most loved character in the show already.
Anonymous No.149888502 >>149905067
Steven Troonverse
Anonymous No.149888530 >>149889218
>>149887415
>Sharing my way of thinking
Your thinking is inherently flawed. You're too focused on "relevance" and "lore" that you fail to realize that the side stuff, comedic content and humans were a lifeblood of the series. It just needed to intermingle with gem stuff more like in S1, which is what Lars is doing. It would be retarded to abandon a hanging thread like Lars just because you don't like him, that's pathetic.
Anonymous No.149889123 >>149889272 >>149889275
>>149888468
>people did want and suggest a Lars and crew spinoff.
I bet there's tons of them
>He's supposed to be important but didn't get the chance to be properly fleshed out. His new arc was the most obvious deserving spinoff bait ever. Lars of the Stars answers Lars' shafting, is CONFIRMED to provide more gem lore and serves as a proper continuation.
Besides more gem lore it's not "needed" at all, SU is not starved for townie shit that's "supposed to be important"
>That was intentional and meant to show that Peridot doesn't need them. All of what you said is extra, not needed at all. Peridot is the most loved character in the show already.
Nobody "needs" anything, the way shows gain popularity is by how well they present characters and the story with them, if you decide to sideline your most loved character because of this "needing" bullshit people will criticize for show for focusing on irrelevant shit
Anonymous No.149889218 >>149889272
>>149888530
>townie hiatuses were a lifeblood of the series
no
>It would be retarded to abandon a hanging thread like Lars just because you don't like him
It's not that I don't like lars, it's that nobody really cares about him or any of the other thousands of background characters we just HAD to get several episodes about while in the middle of actually interesting gem lore
Anonymous No.149889272 >>149889429
>>149889123
It's not about being starved anon, it's what the show is, it's not focused on pandering and the show's lifeblood is that stuff you claim to be "irrelevant". It was supposed to be a mix between townie and gem stuff. Of course a character like Lars would get a gem lore focused spinoff, humans and human stuff are relevant whether you like it or not. He's not even an asshole anymore so it's not like you're going to watch S1 Lars for an entire show.
>>149889218
The town stuff was apart of the show since S1 and was clearly intermingling with gem stuff. Lars is an important character, "nobody caring for him" is irrelevant and doesn't change that he had justified spinoff setup.
Anonymous No.149889275
>>149889123
people will criticize your show*
Anonymous No.149889429 >>149889627
>>149889272
>It was supposed to be a mix between townie and gem stuff
If it was just gem stuff it would be 50 times better, everybody complained about townies
>humans and human stuff are relevant
>The town stuff was apart of the show
Again, if this was true people wouldn't complain about it. It's like the number one criticism of the show too, there's no way you haven't seen someone complain about it before
>"nobody caring for him" is irrelevant
I think that very much is relevant, it's how you lose fans, by shoving things nobody cares about in their faces
Anonymous No.149889627 >>149889728 >>149889930
>>149889429
Too bad. That's not what Steven Universe is. Plenty of people found a lot of the episodes funny in S1, I did. The only episodes that sucked were Ronaldo's latter ones that were fandom bait like Bloodstone.
>If that was true
It is true. People like you are just too obsessed with gem lore and can't appreciate hilarious characters like Mr. Smiley.
>Is relevant
It's not. Lars deserves a chance and he's not even a bad character nor an asshole. You people being shallow minded is on you. The show should stick to its guns not pander because "uoooh fans might not give it a chance". I don't give a fuck about that.
Anonymous No.149889678
>>149883267
>People don't really understand there wasn't any way for Steven to win with violence
I do, but just saying "do it my way" and them saying "OK" is retarded.
Anonymous No.149889728 >>149890037
>>149889627
Gems are better
Anonymous No.149889762
>>149875098 (OP)
Steven's definitely the kind of kid who has a silly and fun friendship with some older girls he deep down wants to date, but they get into some adult situations when he's not around.
Anonymous No.149889930 >>149890037
>>149889627
>Too bad. That's not what Steven Universe is
Cool but it would still be 50 times better if it was
>It is true. People like you are just too obsessed with gem lore and can't appreciate hilarious characters like Mr. Smiley.
We can agree to disagree but "people like me" in this context is like 95% of the fans of this show
>You people being shallow minded is on you. The show should stick to its guns not pander because "uoooh fans might not give it a chance". I don't give a fuck about that.
I respect your commitment to watch it even if it flops hard but it would still be way more successful without townie hiatuses. We clearly enjoy different things, I won't challenge that
Anonymous No.149890037 >>149890262
>>149889728
Gems are obviously better. I just like the human stuff too.
>>149889930
I agree that the human stuff could be executed better but completely removing it and characters like Lars just because they're not as popular or "ez moneymakers" is fucking retarded. Lars deserves a chance to develop and actually get focus like every other character after the OG Show let him and the off colors down. Lars of the Stars won't flop just because it has Lars as a leading character, as I told you, it's still SU content and will feature gems.
Anonymous No.149890262 >>149892384
>>149890037
The reason they're not as popular is simply because they're just not interesting. I'd say Lars is already a pretty complete character and doesn't need any extra things like you said about Peridot
>as I told you, it's still SU content and will feature gems.
I hope it's gems and not 500 hours of hiatuses like in SU, I'm keeping my expectations really low but I still think I'm going to be disappointed
Anonymous No.149890558 >>149892059 >>149896294
>>149875098 (OP)
>>149875117
It would be better if it was an adult show and there were sex scenes
Hot, sexy, sensual sex scenes, that are actually arousing
Anonymous No.149892059 >>149892188
>>149890558
and steven was the one getting raped
Anonymous No.149892188
>>149892059
ok mario (needs to get luigi'd)
Anonymous No.149892384 >>149896146
>>149890262
That's a retarded take, if they were uninteresting with nothing going on they wouldn't have gotten a show to develop them as characters. Lars had an entire section of his character skipped over while Peridot had a well written redemption arc, Lars didn't get a complete arc.
Anonymous No.149892421
>>149880038
Anonymous No.149893440
>>149876217
Absolutely no one, not even co watched Ivandoe.
Anonymous No.149895466
>>149875098 (OP)
What about her?
Anonymous No.149895485 >>149896640
>>149879997
This argument always implies that kids are watching these shows
Anonymous No.149895537 >>149899092
>>149875098 (OP)
I think Steven was a good protagonist overall, even though his story was a little rushed.
I wanted more worldbuilding, but sadly, we were only saw the tip of the iceberg.
Anonymous No.149895639 >>149896146
Ops! It's over.
Anonymous No.149896146 >>149901198 >>149901273
>>149892384
>if they were uninteresting with nothing going on they wouldn't have gotten a show to develop them as characters
That's a retarded take, Rebecca forcing them to the fans' doesn't make them interesting
>Lars had an entire section of his character skipped over while Peridot had a well written redemption arc,
Lars also had a complete "redemption" arc, Peridot joined the CGs yet didn't go on any missions, what about that section of her character?
>>149895639
We meet again, my bump dispenser
Anonymous No.149896294
>>149890558
Can't argue with that
Anonymous No.149896640 >>149896653 >>149897480
>>149895485
Sure, but it tries to fulfill a different purpose: shutting down any criticism that can be made against a cartoon. Gumball's fandom is a good example of this in action - Gumball fans go on and on about how their cartoon is high art, mature and sophisticated, but the instant anyone criticizes even a portion of it, they invariably switch gears and claim that it is retarded for an adult to have any negative opinion on a show made for kids.
Anonymous No.149896653
>>149896640
>but it tries to fulfill a different purpose
why do adult jokes exist in these so called shows made for kids then
Anonymous No.149897407
The series should have featured lots of Lapis fucking Steven and throwing it on Connie's face.
Anonymous No.149897437 >>149897465 >>149901884 >>149932050
Peridot bro how do you feel about Blue Diamond? I'm genuinely curious because outside of Peridot she's like the only gem people still seem to care about to a notable degree. Which is funny looking back at how popular Pearl and Lapis were, never would have thought the goofy dorito goblin and sad Irish MILF would be the two gems with the lasting legacy.
Anonymous No.149897465 >>149897493 >>149897511
>>149897437
I don't really have any strong feelings about her, I guess she's most reasonable diamond as she actually takes time to listen to Steven instead of chimping out like her yellow counterpart. She's just not my type as I'm not into MILFs (unless Peridot turns into one in which case I'm definitely into MILFs)
Anonymous No.149897480 >>149897916
>>149896640
If you vaguely say "modern cartoons suck" you get a rant about nostalgia bias, but if you post a collage of CN's shows over the past 5-10 years people assume it's ragebait made by a troll.
Anonymous No.149897493 >>149897561
>>149897465
Based, I admire your dedication to your gemfu. MILFs are definitely my thing but I can understand how Peridot is so beloved too, she really got a lot of development and has one of the more genuinely fun personalities in the series on top of having a great design. All things considered I'm glad these are the two gems that seem to stick out to people.
Anonymous No.149897511 >>149897561 >>149897596
>>149897465
>I guess she's most reasonable diamond as she actually takes time to listen to Steven instead of chimping out like her yellow counterpart.
I'm pretty sure this is a big part of why Blue ended up taking off, on top of her seeming to have a genuine interest in humans. She seems to be by far the most reasonable Diamond and just needed someone to actually talk with her as an equal.
Anonymous No.149897561 >>149897596
>>149897493
Is BD really that unique? I don't recall seeing that much of a difference between her fans and the rest of SU waifufags, Peridot included but I think it's weird to say
>Which is funny looking back at how popular Pearl and Lapis were never would have thought the goofy dorito goblin and sad Irish MILF would be the two gems with the lasting legacy.
When you can see Peridot is the most popular gem in rule34 while I don't even think BD makes it to the top 10
>>149897511
True, she's not like the other two diamonds
Anonymous No.149897596 >>149897649
>>149897561
Peridot's the clear winner but I tend to see people post a lot about Blue Diamond these days, I think most of the porn of other characters comes from back when the show was airing. Like >>149897511 said her personality seems to have endeared her to a lot of people over the long-term, on top of her also having a very MILFy design. I'm not one of those people that pretends like Peridot isn't by far and away the standout though lol, Blue Diamond's just the only other one that I really see get regular attention still. Even artists that don't really touch SU seem to pick either Peridot or her.
Anonymous No.149897649 >>149897701
>>149897596
Right, you just made it sound like pearl and lapis were some sort of dominant forces in popularity among fans when neither of them came close to autism goblin. Of course all things considered I'm not saying a gem is better because she's more popular since lapis is one of my least favorite characters and yet she takes second place
>Blue Diamond's just the only other one that I really see get regular attention still. Even artists that don't really touch SU seem to pick either Peridot or her.
Maybe I'm just out of the loop but so far from the artists I've seen who don't touch SU they draw anyone really, I didn't see any bias in favor of Peridot or Blue Diamond
Anonymous No.149897701 >>149897755
>>149897649
I tend to see big-name artists go for either Peridot or Blue Diamond if they have little other interest in the show. Think like Rizdraws. Or maybe it's just the artist circles I personally follow lol. And yeah maybe I'm over-stating how popular Lapis and Pearl were, I also remember Jasper having her vocal fans but that doesn't mean she was actually close to Peridot either.
Anonymous No.149897755
>>149897701
>I also remember Jasper having her vocal fans
Oh man I also remember, I rarely see Jasper being posted at all anymore which is sad because I used to have a Jasperfag I used to talk to here and he seems to have disappeared
Anonymous No.149897916 >>149897934
>>149897480
There should be Nuremberg style trials prosecuting the people who were involved with making this shit
Anonymous No.149897934 >>149898118
>>149897916
Wasn't this already posted
>>149876217
Anonymous No.149898020 >>149898106
If I may, I think the enduring popularity of Blie Diamond and Peridot comes from how dynamic their characters are. We get to really see Peridot evolve into the lovable dork she ends up becoming. Blue Diamond is shown to be repressing herself and is actually a bundle of love beneath the surface that we get to see later. Meanwhile just in reference to the other gems mentioned, Pearl keeps falling into the same neuroticism and Rose obsession, Lapis is just kind of a cold and distant bitch, and Japser never does anything but autostically obsess over strength and obedience. Hell some characters like garnet basically REgress as the show goes on.

By the end of the series, it feels like everyone would either be a fucking pain in the ass to be around or just hasn't developed in a neat way. Except for Peridot and Blue Diamond. (Amethyst would be fun to be around but her character arc is basically just looping back to being who she was in episode 1)
Anonymous No.149898077 >>149898148
>>149875256
I loved this scene so much
Anonymous No.149898106 >>149898155
>>149898020
I don't like the CGs and always thought Peridot was too good for them just because how forced it is. None of them made the conscious decision to rebel, they were all forced into it except for Peridot and yet look how they treat her, they cheer when pearl breaks the rules by punching her and threaten/intimidate her when she criticizes Rose. They literally hate her for saying the truth and just being better and smarter.
>Blue Diamond is shown to be repressing herself and is actually a bundle of love beneath the surface that we get to see later
Yeah I liked that about her, a diamond who's actually giving the Earth a chance. Maybe she IS kind of like Peridot, both are too good for their allegiances
>Japser never does anything but autostically obsess over strength and obedience
It's more than that. I hated how they turned Jasper into some sort of fusion slut, that was a big display of weakness for her and I would have preferred if she was really was just le strong obedient gem instead
Anonymous No.149898118
>>149897934
Fuck i didnt realize, sorry
Anonymous No.149898148
>>149898077
Same, I liked how Steven made Peridot learn her mistake and I especially loved the cute faces she made in that episode
Anonymous No.149898155 >>149898195
>>149898106
>Maybe she IS kind of like Peridot, both are too good for their allegiances
IMO she's basically the Diamond equivalent of Peridot, her arc is just more condensed and her personality is chill rather than silly. They both had a "true self forced beneath the surface" thkng going on and both of them ended up exploding once they saw things didnt have to be that way. Funnily enough both of them flipped out at Yellow Diamond too. I kind of wish they had a solitary scene together, feel like they'd get along.
Anonymous No.149898195
>>149898155
You're right, they should have interacted at least a little bit instead of just having Peridot being thrown at her face as a distraction. They'd both share their experiences with YD's antics
Anonymous No.149899092 >>149899144
>>149895537
>I wanted more worldbuilding
monkeyspaw.jpg
Anonymous No.149899144
>>149899092
kek
Anonymous No.149899170 >>149899177
>>149875098 (OP)
Fatty fuck mcfucking fat
I hate fat people and glad people ship Connie with greg
Anonymous No.149899177
>>149899170
anon have you seen greg
Anonymous No.149899456 >>149899487 >>149914107
>>149875098 (OP)
>Only male in a race of female amazon warriors
>Is quite clearly the strongest

His story is powerful if you know how to use it.
Anonymous No.149899487 >>149899660 >>149914107
>>149899456
He's pretty weak without his mother's gem doe
Anonymous No.149899505 >>149899557
>All you have to do to get people to remember your character is to give them an appealing design and some kind of positive development that sticks
Yeah I can see why Peridot and BD have held out while most of the cast has fallen into the background, even characters that were popular when the show was airing.
Anonymous No.149899557
>>149899505
I feel like Peridot's autism factor helps by attracting potentially more dedicated fans
Anonymous No.149899660 >>149899688
>>149899487
>pic
That's cringe, his "mixed" form should be something like this
Anonymous No.149899688 >>149899850
>>149899660
Why do you think it's cringe, anon?
Anonymous No.149899850 >>149899996
>>149899688
It looks like paint/spandex instead of a scaly skin
Anonymous No.149899986
>>149886849
I unironically think that a White Diamond Mom version of the show would've been better handled ngl
Anonymous No.149899996
>>149899850
Oh yeah I see what you mean
Anonymous No.149900089 >>149900102 >>149900111 >>149900132 >>149900148 >>149901242
Which villain do you think would have the funniest conversation with Steven Universe?
Anonymous No.149900102
>>149900089
Vilgax
Anonymous No.149900111 >>149900148
>>149900089
Steven is a weird faggot so he might try to fuck the cat
Anonymous No.149900132
>>149900089
>not comically evil or particularly malicious
>able to do anything for his mission, including sacrificing himself
>Wouldn't even be mad if Steven did anything against him and would just congratulate him and go on with his stuff

Steven would be traumatized
Anonymous No.149900148
>>149900089
big jack horner
>>149900111
he'd fuck anything but the gem goddesses he's been gifted
Anonymous No.149901198 >>149901435
>>149896146
It proves they have potential, which they objectively do. Lars literally died and got turned pink, that's a lot of baggage skipped over while Peridot at least had her baggage acknowledged.
Anonymous No.149901242 >>149901656
>>149900089
Aku. He's literally pure evil and doesn't have any particular psychological reason for what he's doing. He is objectively the actual manifestation of a pure cosmic evil and enjoys nothing more than pain, suffering, and death. Fucking IMAGINE the kind of stumbling block Steven would have with him.
Anonymous No.149901273 >>149901435
>>149896146
He didn't have a complete arc and you know it. Peridot's empty space is trivial, Lars had empty space that leads to a random heelturn. We see Peridot grow and become good, Lars goes from dead to randomly becoming a confident space captain out of nowhere with no mention or grappling of literally dying. His character is so unexplored that he's becoming a protagonist for it.
Anonymous No.149901435 >>149902189
>>149901198
Literally everything "objectively has potential", that doesn't mean we need 5 billion episodes for background characters instead of interesting ones
>Lars literally died and got turned pink, that's a lot of baggage skipped over while Peridot at least had her baggage acknowledged.
Peridot literally told her god to fuck off and joined the crystal gems yet Rebecca decided homeworld shouldn't care about it and barned her instead
>>149901273
>He didn't have a complete arc and you know it
He did
>Peridot's empty space is trivial, Lars had empty space that leads to a random heelturn. We see Peridot grow and become good, Lars goes from dead to randomly becoming a confident space captain out of nowhere with no mention or grappling of literally dying
We had a shit load of episodes that built lars' character, what are you talking about? Did you not watch all the parts with him, Steven and Sadie? Now you're just pretending like Lars getting revived is the only thing that ever developed his character and nothing else

I can play that game too, Peridot suddenly calling YD a clod after trying to contact her for help makes no sense, give her 70 trillion episodes. See how I completely ignored the character development beforehand?
Anonymous No.149901656
>>149901242
>Fucking IMAGINE the kind of stumbling block Steven would have with him.
Anonymous No.149901884
>>149897437
cute and sultry
Anonymous No.149901916
Anonymous No.149901926
>>149877967
People focus on the "muh super important aliens genocide" (that are never on camera) to the point they miss pretty much anything else involving the diamonds.
Anonymous No.149902189 >>149902429
>>149901435
Lars isn't a background character. He's supposed to be important, the fact that you call him and his crew background characters objectively prove how the show failed him lmao.
>Peridot literally told her god to fuck off
And we got episodes showing how Peridot coped with that and how she fully becomes a Crystal Gem. She even received metal powers. Lars had ZERO acknowledgement as a character about his death. To the point you call him a fucking background character when he was clearly supposed to be an important support character.
Those episodes have nothing to do with Lars after his death. The stuff for his death and how he's supposed to handle that got skipped over, the story shift that creates his personality change was skipped. Instead he's completely confident out of nowhere with ZERO mention of his death. Your counterpoint doesn't work since Peridot had multiple episodes building up their good side. And Peridot had episodes after that building up her character and how she deals with being on Earth for good.
Anonymous No.149902429 >>149902600
>>149902189
>Your counterpoint doesn't work since Peridot had multiple episodes building up their good side.
That's actually exactly how it works, Lars already had multiple episodes building up his good side. His death and revival was just the finishing touch to his redemption
>Lars had ZERO acknowledgement as a character about his death
>Instead he's completely confident out of nowhere with ZERO mention of his death
Wtf are you on? We had episodes of him being angry that his old friends aren't constantly thinking about him, did you actually watch the show or just clips?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_ef8BkQXCM
Anonymous No.149902600 >>149902806
>>149902429
Nope, episodes you mentioned with Sadie never built and explored the confidence he had in the Lars of the Stars episode. Those townie episodes fleshed his past insecurities out, but it didn't compliment what happens to him. And he doesn't get a complete transition into a redeemed captain nor does it change that his baggage was skipped over. He has a lot of baggage that gets ignored. Peridot on the other hand, had at least a couple episodes that make her go through some kind of turmoil even after Yellow Diamond. Lars is not remotely complete since the show failed to explore him and his new shift. It's why Lars is so associated with his early S1 self since we get zero time with the new Lars, which is terrible.
>Youtube link
That shit is irrelevant as fuck. It's a brief tease that Lars has issues with no exploration or proper acknowledgement. He just bottles it back up as soon as he shows vulnerability, that same episode randomly established that he's confident and suave too. Where did that come from? Why isn't that part explored more? It's a writing failure and the fact that you call him a background character proves my point that Space Captain Lars, this development wasn't focused on enough. Nor does it acknowledge his actual fucking DEATH anon, just that he misses Sadie and wished he was talked about.
Anonymous No.149902806 >>149902951
>>149902600
>It's a writing failure and the fact that you call him a background character proves my point that Space Captain Lars, this development wasn't focused on enough
Huh? He was always a background character, it's just that SU tends to give background characters way too much screen time because Rebecca
>Nor does it acknowledge his actual fucking DEATH anon
Damn you're hard to please, what do you want anon? A full episode of him crying his lungs out because he has PTSD after his death? Why do you believe it's completely irrelevant that he is shown to be angry his friends aren't concerned about him dying but that it's also absolutely necessary he needs a deep conversation about how he died to a drone? I would at least understand if his death came from past actions and had some sort of message but no he just died in battle, how crazy can you make that, anon?
Anonymous No.149902951 >>149903184
>>149902806
He wasn't. He's clearly supposed to be an important supporting character. He's a prime case of human stuff intermingling with gem stuff like Connie and Greg.
>Damn you're hard to please
You don't have to worry about pleasing me, Peri-anon. I'm getting what I want with Lars of the Stars. Human stuff like Lars intermingling with gem stuff is supposed to be the lifeblood of the series. And I believe that dying and becoming an immortal being is a serious topic that needed some episodes about that. Especially when Lars is supposed to have powers like Lion did. There's so much we don't know about Lars including the bare minimum. Remember, he's a young teenager faced with the fact that he's going to outlive everyone he knows and loves after dying young. That's a serious issue that can intermingle with Lars' early season issues where he took life, Sadie and his parents for granted. Like him or hate him, he's a big part of Steven's universe now since he's not a regular human anymore.
Anonymous No.149903184 >>149903776 >>149904687
>>149902951
>He wasn't
All townies are
>You don't have to worry about pleasing me, Peri-anon. I'm getting what I want with Lars of the Stars
Really? From what I understood so far you want him to talk about his death and have a "complete arc" even though he already does, you said "people like me don't appreciate hilarious characters like Mr. Smiley" so it seems what you want instead is another 5 billion townie episodes. I never implied Lars of the Stars is going to be about every other background human character, just that it's retarded they made a background human character the MC when it would have been way better to focus on a gem instead
>Like him or hate him
You keep pretending that him being uninteresting means I hate him, don't be like that
Anonymous No.149903212 >>149903306
>>149875098 (OP)
>someone shoots Steven and he dies
What happens from now on?
Anonymous No.149903221 >>149903239
>>149875098 (OP)
This dude killed American animation for the forseeable future
Anonymous No.149903239
>>149903221
Come on, you're giving SU way too much credit
Anonymous No.149903306
>>149903212
Steven dies and his friends are really sad, what do you think happens?
Anonymous No.149903776 >>149904687
>>149903184
On a side note it's clearly a lose-lose situation since Lars already having a complete arc doesn't please you and you want even more to call it complete so you'll still be complaining about Lars not doing this or that and saying the show failed him again while people interested in relevant gem lore will get more half baked episodes full of hiatuses. I stand by my point that Rebecca choosing Lars as the MC was a horrendously bad decision
Anonymous No.149904687 >>149904844
>>149903184
That's not how background characters work.
>He already does
He doesn't. His arc is skipped over for a complete out of nowhere confidence boost with no focus or exploration of this new side of him. He just spouted out random one liners, had one deeper moment, then got swept under the rug. And no, your anger's blinding you. I acknowledged gem stuff is better I just don't want human stuff eradicated like you do, killjoy. And no, Lars makes sense. The entire show's going to be about gem lore, having a character like Lars who isn't even human anymore as the MC is good for the show.
>You keep pretending
You keep talking like you hate him.
>>149903776
Chill out. You're assuming way too much about me. I wanted Lars' new direction to have screentime. An entire show with this new Lars as a protagonist is exactly what I wanted.
Anonymous No.149904844 >>149905137
>>149904687
YESSSS I thought I overshot it a bit and you left anon, anyways back to business
>That's not how background characters work.
They're irrelevant characters who people usually don't care about, also I could say you calling Peridot a side character proves my point that she's wasted potential as joining the Crystal Gems should have meant becoming part of the main cast
>His arc is skipped over for a complete out of nowhere confidence boost
Pretty sure Lars always had confidence, again are we watching the same show?
>And no, your anger's blinding you. I acknowledged gem stuff is better I just don't want human stuff eradicated like you do, killjoy
Human stuff causes hiatuses for gem stuff. That's the real killjoy
>You keep talking like you hate him.
What makes you say that?
>Chill out. You're assuming way too much about me.
Anon that is exactly what you implied, for a townie Lars has already gotten an insane amount of development and yet it's not enough to please you, it only makes sense that if this new spin-off is like SU you wouldn't like it either because you'd have the same complaints
Anonymous No.149904880 >>149904914
Steven Universe would've improved greatly if they dropped the Steven POV. It honestly boggles the mind that they stuck with it even when it became really clear that it was limiting story potential.
Anonymous No.149904914
>>149904880
I agree, Steven is kind of a townie himself. Having the story from gems' POV would have improved the show greatly
Anonymous No.149905067
>>149888502
>>>/pol/
Anonymous No.149905137 >>149905361
>>149904844
The story incorporating characters like those proves they're not irrelevant. Peridot is a well executed side character, it's why she's so beloved with a well praised redemption while Lars is mixed since he had a good concept but the execution was rushed. A common thing people say about Lars is that him being left to fend for himself in space while Steven bums around in the city was fairly disappointing.
>Always had confidence
Then you didn't watch the show. Lars main character trait is that he's a loser who's too afraid. A big moment of Lars in the season he dies is where he admits to always being stupid and afraid, he's not confident.
>Human stuff causes hiatuses
No, the crewniverse's awful scheduling caused hiatuses. They were the ones that did stupid shit like "Steven Bombs" and S1 proved that human stuff could co-exist since plenty of gem action still involved human characters. As I said, the human intermingling after Season 1 could've been a lot better. Peridot, Bismuth and Lapis could've had episodes intermingled with say, the Fryman Family without it being a nothingburger. The crewniverse writing just fell off the wayside for having too many writers on board that didn't know what they were doing.
>What makes you say that
You have done nothing but bash him and say that him being a protagonist is terrible. You haven't even gave him a chance especially when he's confirmed to have powers and shit but you're writing him off unfairly.
>Implied
Implied. You think I'm not going to satisfied when I specifically complained about Lars' new direction and struggle getting skipped over. He didn't even get any screentime after he became pink, he had one spinoff bait episode then awkwardly sat in the background. Steven didn't even talk to him like how he usually does with people he's concerned over and invested in. Like how he did for Peridot and Lapis. And no, Lars' "insane amount of development" was offscreen.
Anonymous No.149905361 >>149905481
>>149905137
>The story incorporating characters like those proves they're not irrelevant
If you could remove 90% of the human interactions and still be left with the same ending they're pretty damn irrelevant.
>Peridot is a well executed side character, it's why she's so beloved with a well praised redemption
I feel like you missed my point. Again, when Peridot joined the CGs she should have joined the main cast and yet she was barned. I could make the same point you're making with lars that she's not a complete character because of this.
>Lars main character trait is that he's a loser who's too afraid
Not really, he's a loser yes but he's still confident, he even hit on Stevonnie (well, kind of)
>No, the crewniverse's awful scheduling caused hiatuses
I feel like they did it intentionally just because people wouldn't watch a series of episodes knowing it was about townies so they had to force it
>You have done nothing but bash him and say that him being a protagonist is terrible
I haven't based him at all, as for him being a protagonist it's true that's terrible but that doesn't mean I hate him. That white car I passed today was pretty irrelevant to me and I think it would be terrible to have my life revolve around it but it doesn't mean I hate it or anything
>You think I'm not going to satisfied
Absolutely, SU is probably the show that focuses on background characters the most and if it's still not enough then there's no way
>He didn't even get any screentime after he became pink
Like I already said, that was the end of his redemption arc. His development was completed just like Peridot's who was also sidelined.
Anonymous No.149905481 >>149905648
>>149905361
If some humans got focus in the plot and contributed to the plot then they're not irrelevant.
>Yet she was barned
And she still had a well explored redemption arc and had multiple episodes about her. She could've got more but she's in a much better spot than Lars is. At least Peridot's character shift didn't happen offscreen. We see her become goofy, less threatening and less obsessed with Homeworld's ideals. We even see the aftermath of her heelturn where she coped with log dates. You can try to make the same point but it's easily proven to be dishonest and falls flat.
>Not really
Lars himself opened up and admitted it. You're wrong. He didn't even have the confidence to make it to the Cool Kids party, he trashed his baked good and ran away.
>They did it intentionally just because people wouldn't watch
There's no proof of this. At most, it was just a marketing ploy.
>I haven't based him at all
You are literally calling him irrelevant. You come across as unfairly judging and bashing of him.
>Absolutely
Then you're wrong and retarded. You don't know me and what I like or want from Lars. Pink Lars being a protagonist is exactly what I want, don't speak for me.
>That was the end
It wasn't. Lars' actual growth and change got offscreened. Peridot had multiple episodes to transition while Lars just becomes brave and suave on a whim. Peridot needed time to fully embrace becoming a CG while Lars' struggles and newly put position was ignored.
Anonymous No.149905648 >>149905744
>>149905481
>If some humans got focus in the plot and contributed to the plot then they're not irrelevant.
Besides steven and connie no other humans contributed much to the plot
>And she still had a well explored redemption arc and had multiple episodes about her
Yes, exact same scenario with lars. Lots of episodes about him with Steven and Sadie that built his character leading to his death and revival being the finish touch
>Lars himself opened up and admitted it. You're wrong. He didn't even have the confidence to make it to the Cool Kids party, he trashed his baked good and ran away.
Cherrypicked, his personality was basically always the same. I could say the same thing about Jasper admitting she's weak and begging to fuse yet it's not like Jasper isn't strong, is she?
>There's no proof of this
It's just common sense anon
>You are literally calling him irrelevant
Have you read what I wrote after that? If you're just gonna say "nuh uh" and ignore what I wrote it's better not to quote it at all
>Then you're wrong and retarded
Here you are spending hours talking to a retard because he doesn't think irrelevant townies deserve infinite screen time and hiatuses. Are you Rebecca herself by any chance?
>It wasn't. Lars' actual growth and change got offscreened
Again, we had several episodes where lars' character grew and you seemed to have skipped them all
Anonymous No.149905744 >>149905941
>>149905648
Lars, Greg and Sadie had too many episodes about them to be irrelevant. That's not how writing works, them not being massive game changers doesn't mean they're irrelevant, they're just supporting characters, not background characters.
>Exact same scenario with Lars
Not even close for reasons I already told you.
>cHERRYPICKED
Are you trolling? There's no cherrypicking. A big part of Lars is that he overcompensates and lacks bravery to even be himself. Lars is not confident, you've provided zero proof on the contrary.
>It's just common sense
Your headcanon you mean.
>Have you read what I wrote
You bash Lars. And I can quote all I want, what are you going to do about it?
>Irrelevant townies deserve infinite screen time and hiatuses
Who said anything about that? You're the one who thinks townies cause hiatuses for some retarded reason. You're acting ridiculous.
>We had several episodes where Lars grew
No we didn't. Lars didn't change until he died. He was consistently the fearful jerkass with a softer side for Steven until they got brought to Homeworld where it challenged everything Lars knew, similar to how Peridot got challenged when she was unbubbled and forced to team up with the Gems to save the Earth.
Anonymous No.149905941 >>149906085
>>149905744
>Lars, Greg and Sadie had too many episodes about them to be irrelevant
Still didn't contribute much to the plot except for greg, also you saying they had too many episodes just proves my point kek
>Not even close for reasons I already told you.
I've already laid out why those reasons make no sense too
>y-you're t-trolling
Embarrassing
>Your headcanon you mean.
If you're just gonna say "nuh uh" and ignore what I wrote it's better not to quote it at all
>You bash Lars. And I can quote all I want, what are you going to do about it?
I'm gonna keep you bumping since I'd rather not necrobump
>You're acting ridiculous.
Anon you're the one crying about me trolling and saying I'm retarded while still talking to me, I never said anything of the sort to you
>No we didn't. Lars didn't change until he died
Then you didn't watch the show, lars didn't even change much after he died
Anonymous No.149906085 >>149906166
>>149905941
They're supporting characters, not major "drive the plot" characters, that doesn't make them irrelevant. And no, they had episodes but they didn't grow in them. It was moreso character building than development, usually for Steven.
>Nuh uh
You're insisting on common sense with nothing to back it up. So yes, it's your headcanon since you didn't provide proof of how the Steven Bombs were made.
>Anon you're the one crying
I'm not crying. I asked if you were trolling since your counterpoint made zero sense.
>Lars didn't even change much
He did. He became bold and confident in ways he wasn't before. Give me a single instance where Lars changed from prior episodes? Lars had a consistent character trait of being an insecure jerk until he became a badass space captain. A captain that deserves his own show since he'll have powers and new struggles that got skipped over in the original show.
Anonymous No.149906166 >>149906213
>>149906085
>not major "drive the plot" characters
I didn't say drive the plot, I said they didn't contribute much
>You're insisting on common sense with nothing to back it up
I mean it's all already there, there's a reason they did these hiatuses and it takes common sense to figure out why. Not sure why you think they'd openly say it though
>I'm not crying. I asked if you were trolling since your counterpoint made zero sense.
I think you're making zero sense too but I don't rely on calling you a troll because I believe throwing insults makes you look like you're having a tantrum
>Give me a single instance where Lars changed from prior episodes?
Huh? My whole point was that he didn't change much, read my post again but carefully
Anonymous No.149906213 >>149906278
>>149906166
>Contribute much
They do in their designated episodes. They're supporting characters not irrelevant.
>"T-Trust me bro"
Again, you haven't provided proof that the townies caused hiatuses. You're just being bitter and using baseless stuff rather than the obvious truth of bad scheduling.
>Trying to play the moral high ground
Instead you ask if I've never seen the show and watch through clips. Real mature and "not throwing insults" of you anon. Totally not rude at all lol.
>Huh?
You claimed Lars grew in prior episodes before he became pink. You need to provide proof. His Lars of the Stars episode was the biggest heelturn for Lars.
Anonymous No.149906278 >>149906315 >>149906514
>>149906213
>They do in their designated episodes
To the episode but not the general plot
>>"T-Trust me bro"
I didn't say trust me, I said use common sense
>>Trying to play the moral high ground
Nothing moral about not acting like a child, just use real arguments
>You claimed Lars grew in prior episodes before he became pink.
Yeah he did, but his personality did not change much. Same as Peridot, she's still got the same gremlin scientist personality despite changing and developing a lot
Anonymous No.149906315
>>149906278
forgot image
Anonymous No.149906481 >>149906737
>>149882703
To be fair it was run by women
Anonymous No.149906514 >>149906661
>>149906278
>Not the general plot
That doesn't make them irrelevant anon. They supported where they were needed and did exist in bigger plot points. Like Lars being the reason Steven got to go home cleanly.
>I said use common sense
I did. It was bad scheduling and a weird marketing ploy, not a townie issue.
>Yeah he did
When and how? Lars never grew or faced his fears until he died. Peridot grew a lot and was so explored that we got to see her powers. Lars didn't even get that.
Anonymous No.149906661 >>149923036
>>149906514
>That doesn't make them irrelevant anon
Again, if removing 90% of them won't change much then they're pretty irrelevant
>I did. It was bad scheduling and a weird marketing ploy, not a townie issue.
Post proof and I'll let you have this one
>When and how? Lars never grew or faced his fears until he died
During the progression of the show? We saw lars warming up to Steven (just like Peridot) and developing a chemistry with Sadie. You claim he didn't grow but at the same time had lots of episodes, do you think he was just fucking around and didn't develop at all during these episodes? If that's the case his episodes were pretty irrelevant
Anonymous No.149906730 >>149906757
Crazy how he learned how to use his shield from that Uncle Grandpa crossover
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Anonymous No.149906737 >>149910036
>>149906481
all gems are agender
Anonymous No.149906757
>>149906730
I liked that episode, it was odd seeing fourth wall breaks in SU
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Anonymous No.149908432 >>149914494
>>149877329
He looked like a gigachad
Anonymous No.149909464
>>149875098 (OP)
I Don't know about her, guys?
Anonymous No.149910036 >>149911880
>>149906737
They all look like women but some are purple green or blue
Anonymous No.149911880
>>149910036
They're just designed like that
Anonymous No.149912653 >>149913837
>>149886456
No he doesn't
Anonymous No.149912807 >>149913573 >>149915357
>>149877735
love to you friend, stay strong.
Anonymous No.149913573
>>149912807
Very acceptable butter.
Anonymous No.149913837 >>149918857
>>149912653
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3sH7S1SlyA
Anonymous No.149914107 >>149914129 >>149914530
>>149899456
>>149899487
>a magical space queen's greatest strength is her ability to produce a son
Anonymous No.149914129 >>149914277
>>149914107
That's not exclusive to Pink Diamond, all gems can form a reproductive system. Usually they'd shapeshift but in Peridot's case she'd have to poof and reform
Anonymous No.149914277
>>149914129
Not just in Peridot's case though, era 2 gems in general
Anonymous No.149914447
>>149877967
Sacrifice her life by throwing the Diamonds into some black hole or something.
Anonymous No.149914494 >>149914529
>>149908432
made this way back when
Anonymous No.149914529 >>149914536
>>149914494
way back when what
Anonymous No.149914530 >>149916018
>>149914107
Is Steven the ultimate Gem Lifeform?
Anonymous No.149914536 >>149914555
>>149914529
When the show came out, when I was a youngling.
Anonymous No.149914555
>>149914536
God I can't believe it's been over a decade
Anonymous No.149915357
>>149912807
Love this
Anonymous No.149916018
>>149914530
He's a hybrid
Anonymous No.149917021 >>149917031
>>149875098 (OP)
Weird looking creature
Anonymous No.149917031
>>149917021
That's not very nice
Anonymous No.149917824 >>149921488 >>149921593
>>149875098 (OP)
I like him
Anonymous No.149918620
He is a very chubby boy, I got to admit.
Anonymous No.149918857 >>149918921
>>149913837
Now post the other 20 times he doesn't.
Anonymous No.149918921 >>149919125
>>149918857
>Your honor I only murdered someone once, that means I'm not a murderer. Post the other 20 times I was innocent
Anonymous No.149919125 >>149919222
>>149918921
Murderers are not serial killers, yeah.
Anonymous No.149919222
>>149919125
Ok Steven is a gay dancer but not a serial gay dancer then
Anonymous No.149920111
Anonymous No.149921488 >>149921532
>>149917824
I hate fatfags so much
Anonymous No.149921532 >>149921598
>>149921488
Tard
Anonymous No.149921593 >>149922689
>>149917824
Why are they both so dark in this?
Anonymous No.149921598 >>149921612
>>149921532
Lard
Anonymous No.149921612 >>149921627 >>149924180
>>149921598
Cope
Anonymous No.149921627 >>149922726 >>149924180
>>149921612
Why would anyone cope about not being fat
Anonymous No.149922689
>>149921593
It's a netflix adaptation
Anonymous No.149922726 >>149922805
>>149921627
Stop projecting
Anonymous No.149922805
>>149922726
I wasn't the one who got offended by being called a fatfag
Anonymous No.149923036 >>149923743
>>149906661
That's not how that works. Supporting characters exists in specific contexts. Lars contributed to the plot at all so he's not irrelevant same for Greg.

This is the only evidence that explains why Steven Bombs exist

https://www.bing.com/copilotsearch?q=why+did+steven+bombs+exist&FORM=CSSCOP
https://www.pvvoice.com/2017/05/24/steven-universe-bombs-leaks-and-the-neverending-hiatuses-that-drive-fans-crazy/

They were character building episodes. Lars had chemistry with Sadie from the beginning. He just mistreated her and took her for granted, that's the entire point. Lars did not grow or change much as a character unlike Peridot who had an entire arc to change her views and attitude. Lars was a self serving dick that let Sadie down from beginning to end.
Anonymous No.149923504
>>149876844
How much did you
Anonymous No.149923743 >>149925274
>>149923036
Ah you finally back, I was wondering where you went
>That's not how that works. Lars contributed to the plot
That's how it works. The only time lars ever contributed to the plot was when he died and Steven used his hair to teleport back but even that wasn't really him it was his body that Steven helped shape into a teleporter
>This is the only evidence that explains why Steven Bombs exist
I never disagreed with you on Steven bombs, just that townies also cause hiatuses. Read my original claim again
>I feel like they did it intentionally just because people wouldn't watch a series of episodes knowing it was about townies so they had to force it
They forced those townie episodes between actually important gem stuff because people wouldn't watch them. They are filler and not much else. I asked you to post proof that they totally aren't despite the fact that like I said, removing 90% of them wouldn't change much. Townies are no scheduling issue nor a marketing ploy, they are just filler.
>Peridot who had an entire arc to change her views and attitude. Lars was a self serving dick that let Sadie down from beginning to end.
Peridot still decided to betray Steven after all he had done and called Yellow Diamond, can you also say she was a homeworld's drone from beginning to end and that all those episodes were just building her character? Her calling YD a clod and joining the crystal gems is the same as lars dying and getting revived. It was the final touch of their redemption arcs, like I've said several times already.

By the way sorry for the delay, I've got a bad internet connection right now so you might have to wait a bit longer for a response but I promise, the honor of debating with me is worth every second
Mr. Chop No.149924180 >>149924332
>>149921612
Rope
>>149921627
You ruined the rhyme.
Anonymous No.149924332 >>149924457
>>149924180
That's dope
Mr. Chop No.149924457 >>149924540
>>149924332
The only good Steven Universe character is Roger.
Anonymous No.149924540
>>149924457
I still can't believe WD was revealed to be just another one of Roger's personas all along, that was the biggest plot twist of SU ever for me
Anonymous No.149925274 >>149925708
>>149923743
You don't need to be obsessed with me anon.

That's not how it works. Official definition for background characters are those who never EVER drive the plot forward. A background character is Mr Smiley. Lars was important in his episodes, he is literally the reason Steven gets to go home and further the plot from there.
>Townies also cause hiatuses
They don't. You claimed they are the reason for Steven Bomb hiatuses. Hiatuses came from bad scheduling and Steven Bombs prove it. The "non important" episodes were just a case of weird priorities not from any deeper reason, there's no proof for that. Townies aren't the reason for hiatuses.
>Peridot still decided to betray
Yes and she had proper build up and grew in every episode. She was consistently learned and APPLIED those lessons. Lars took Sadie for granted to hang out with the Cool Kids and he still continues to act that way, super obsessed with the Cool Kids and barely looking Sadie's way. Nor toughening up to make Sadie proud. Peridot got several episodes after her redemption, such as learning new powers. Lars DIDN'T get that. We know he has powers but unlike Peridot, he's so poorly explored and developed that we haven't even seen them. Lars is poorly explored and deserved a spinoff, especially when he's in space and actually exploring the Gem Empire.
Anonymous No.149925708 >>149926748
>>149925274
Anon you complained that I was trolling and yet continued to come back to talk to me for days now, let's not get caught up on who's the obsessed one here I'm just glad you didn't chicken out of our convo
>They don't. You claimed they are the reason for Steven Bomb hiatuses
They do, and show me where I claimed townies are to blame for Steven bomb hiatuses. They are two different things though they do have a connection, townies are filler that was forced onto the audience which lead to hiatuses for important gem stuff
>Lars took Sadie for granted to hang out with the Cool Kids and he still continues to act that way, super obsessed with the Cool Kids and barely looking Sadie's way
Peridot took Steven and the CGs' trust for granted and stole a diamond communicator, lars did have a bad relationship with sadie at first but then they got episodes where they actually bonded. Claiming these episodes didn't grow him at all and didn't do anything for him while still being relevant is pure mental gymnastics
>Peridot got several episodes after her redemption, such as learning new powers. Lars DIDN'T get that.
Peridot was barned and these new powers you speak of were not explored even close to their full potential as all she ever used them for were small cans and a lid when she could be doing pic related, lars as a background character got all he ever needed while Peridot was robbed of actually becoming a part of the crystal gems and going on missions with them
Anonymous No.149926475 >>149927452 >>149927457
>>149875098 (OP)
Only Fags watch this show
Anonymous No.149926748 >>149927592 >>149927938
>>149925708
Yes, and? I'm bored and saw this thread still around. You're the one who's eager for my presence to the point you celebrate. And no, I didn't "complain" retard, I asked a simple question like how you asked if I only watched the show through clips, you hypocrite. But of course you conveniently don't mention that.
>They do
They don't and you haven't proved it. Steven Bombs prove that it's nothing more than poor scheduling and taking breaks to build up their backlog of episodes. That's how animation works. If you bothered looking at my evidence, the article mentions that Cartoon Network did stuff for marketing ploys.
>Peridot
Again, Peridot grows with every episode. Lars does not. Lars doesn't grow until he dies. And you're wrong. Lars and Sadie had a bond from the beginning, the entire point is that Lars is a dick that takes her for granted, which he continues to do until he dies. You claim mental gymnastics but you still refused to provide proof that he grew, you haven't provided an ounce of proof for any of your points.

You're shifting the goalposts. I said she learned new powers and had them consistently on displayed to the point she actually gets better at using them. Lars didn't have a single moment to display his new powers. So again, he objectively did not get the exploration he was supposed to have and it makes his spinoff justified. No amount of crying will change the fact that he's supposed to be important, it's why he's a protagonist in a new show, cry about it.
Anonymous No.149927028 >>149927407
>>149875098 (OP)
stevens cool cause its a tumblrkid self insert getting put into numerous fucked up situations and realizing his magical view of the world is naive and stupid
failing at love, realizing that aging means giving up kiddyshit, learning the hard lesson that you cant force things to be your way otherwise things just get worse and worse for you
good show
Anonymous No.149927407 >>149927474
>>149927028
>aging means giving up kiddyshit
Wrong you retard
Anonymous No.149927452
>>149926475
>only fags watch a show full of cute girls
Anonymous No.149927457 >>149936144
>>149926475
Cope
Anonymous No.149927474 >>149930607
>>149927407
theres an episode where hes sad that his birthday is full of babystuff and he has a crisis turning himself into a geezer giving himself fucking dementia and almost dying
that episode ends with him going back to normal after giving up the babyshit
Anonymous No.149927491 >>149929782
>>149875098 (OP)
>jewish faggotry
i cant express how much i despise hitler, because if he didnt do a half assed job. these freaks would all be gone.
Anonymous No.149927592
>>149926748
>You're the one who's eager for my presence to the point you celebrate
It's not that deep anon, you've talked to me the most in this thread so far
>And no, I didn't "complain" retard, I asked a simple question like
If I asked if you were retarded you'd assume I was calling you retarded, it doesn't matter how hard you try applying mental gymnastics here
>They don't and you haven't proved it
They do and you haven't showed me what I was asking, get to work on that
>Again, Peridot grows with every episode. Lars does not. Lars doesn't grow until he dies
Then like I said, his episodes provide nothing and aren't relevant
>No amount of crying will change the fact that he's supposed to be important, it's why he's a protagonist in a new show, cry about it.
No amount of retard or troll-calling will change the fact that he's a background character who's being given a spotlight (which is a bad decision) and people will only watch it for the gem stuff, cry about it
Anonymous No.149927938 >>149928135
>>149926748
arent you that guy who threw a fit over people dunking on connie? not siding with you or the peridotfag in this autism fight but you are definitely more obsessed than he is
Anonymous No.149928135
>>149927938
>arent you that guy who threw a fit over people dunking on connie?
Oh yeah that's 100% him, I'm pretty surprised someone finally noticed. Still I'm gonna pretend it's someone else and argue in good faith since a response like "lol seethe harder" won't squeeze many bumps out and that's my number one goal
>not siding with you or the peridotfag in this autism fight
Cmon, I'm the green autist and green always means good
Anonymous No.149929771
Anonymous No.149929782 >>149930791
>>149927491
That thing is jewish?
Anonymous No.149930607 >>149931781
>>149927474
Stop being a faggot
Anonymous No.149930791 >>149934824
>>149929782
No, he's not
Anonymous No.149931781 >>149931809
>>149930607
(you) first
Anonymous No.149931809 >>149931848
>>149931781
Stop projecting
Anonymous No.149931848
>>149931809
>stock response
I accept your concession
Anonymous No.149932050 >>149932165 >>149936353
>>149897437
Mogged by Opal
Anonymous No.149932165 >>149932704
>>149932050
IDK they look pretty similar to me, I don't think you'd be able to tell if they swapped outfits
Anonymous No.149932704 >>149932749
>>149932165
Two arms will never match up with four
Anonymous No.149932749 >>149933613
>>149932704
Can't she just shapeshift more arms if necessary?
Anonymous No.149933613 >>149933697
>>149932749
Natty four hands gives the best tugs. No cold steel will match.
Anonymous No.149933697
>>149933613
Oh no I meant can't BD shapeshift more arms, Peridot can poof and reform too but I like her the way she is
Anonymous No.149934824 >>149934901 >>149938240
>>149930791
Well what is he then? A weird looking goblin.
Anonymous No.149934901
>>149934824
He's a teenage boy, Isaac Newton
Anonymous No.149936144 >>149937343
>>149927457
Rope
Anonymous No.149936353
>>149932050
I can't get over her either. Not really a wasted character because her first episode was unforgettable, but I wanted moar.
Anonymous No.149937343 >>149938116
>>149936144
Soap
Anonymous No.149938071 >>149938278
isn't steven's VA a full blown tranny now?
Anonymous No.149938116
>>149937343
Interlope
Anonymous No.149938240
>>149934824
Going by the name of his father before he legally changed in, he is Italian.
Anonymous No.149938278
>>149938071
He doesn't identify as female so no
Anonymous No.149938323 >>149938358
I like to imagine adult Steven getting regular pussy like adult Bobby Hill
And also dumping his minority GF after finding out she’s a whore
Just like Bobby
Anonymous No.149938358
>>149938323
One can dream
Anonymous No.149938376
Instant way to improve Steven Universe: Pearl got into the Goth subculture not long after Rose committed ego suicide, and never left it. Her room in the temple is dark, she listens to Bauhaus, The Cure, and Siouxsie Sioux. The only thing she consumes are clove cigarettes, which she stockpiled in the Temple.
Why is she like this?
Her 8 foot tall, 69-inch bust life partner was stolen then fatally knocked up by the era's equivalent of a homeless SoundCloud rapper. Whom she eventually falls for as well.
Anonymous No.149938407
>>149875098 (OP)
Give him a few more years after on his self discover journey into adulthood.