Thread 149918207

Jax at this point will become an antagonist who will do something cruel enough to make you all put your words in your asses.

>>149912903

>>149918207 (OP)
https://x.com/GooseworxMusic/status/1786905259648180451?lang=en

>>149918207 (OP)
I already know it's going to happen and he's just going to get more and more batshit as his cope starts to collapse

>>149918207 (OP)
Lucid Dark Kinger needs to slap Jax into reality that this isn’t a cartoon where he gets to pretend nothing is without consequence

He's going to gain access to an admin console and murder everyone

>>149918468
Is the Circus, is not Reality, There's no Actual consequences besides abstraction, when it collapses, There will be nothing left.

>>149918207 (OP)
He's going to succumb to a doll handjob.

>>149918521
And Caine He angers this fact after discovering that he failed in his purpose.

https://youtu.be/SK2ASOHOA_0?si=X6UM5eeeHJ6GY-X3

>>149918521
And Caine angers this fact after discovering that he failed in his purpose.

https://youtu.be/SK2ASOHOA_0?si=X6UM5eeeHJ6GY-X3

>>149918422
He will most certainly take someone with him.

Or:

>>149918207 (OP)
I didn't really get where this came from. He makes himself out to be this grand psycho genius manipulator, yet he hasn't really done anything worth of note.
>He tormented Gangle
He was mean to the shut-in weeb, yes, but it was barely anything. A few episodes ago, she had her new mask and he was not a threat at all. He gets subdued pretty easily actually most of the time.
>You are a human, not his toy
>It sometimes doesn't feel that way
At this point the question should be "Why hasn't anyone done something about Jax?" if he such a monster.
It's just weird and it bugged me.

>>149918721
that looks more like they got squashed by a bowling ball

>>149918795
Few episodes, he have been years in the circus.

Jax is an Irredeemable but Complex monster.
And yes, the where times they did something to him.
But that dosen't stopped his evilness.

https://youtu.be/jgQBn8eOtiY?si=_Xrp9vyciiL3W-xh

>>149918847
the meaning of that for now is ambiguous

>>149918795
>At this point the question should be Why hasn't anyone done something about Jax?" if he such a monster.
It's just weird and it bugged me.
Maybe because he's got dirt on everyone like him blackmailing Gangle about her Ragatha figurine. It's possible if they mess with him, he would bring up of the horrible things they want to forget about

>>149918795
>He was mean to the shut-in weeb, yes, but it was barely anything.
He does enough that Gangle is afraid of him and what he could potentially do to her if she ever upset him enough. Every episode he's doing something to bother her

>At this point the question should be "Why hasn't anyone done something about Jax?" if he such a monster.
I think we're at that point where we are seeing them finally do something about Jax which is essentially pull Gangle away from him and Ragatha being more direct about why she can't stand him
They didn't bother beforehand because Jax is an obvious attention seeker and he thrives off pushing people to their limits so everyone just tried to ignore him while Ragatha tried to save him from descending somehow

>>149919131
>>149919105

And idiots still thinking jax is not evil.

>>149918207 (OP)
Jax knows all the humans in the circus are just copies of their consciousness with some memories removed. He's constantly looking towards the camera and performing cruel acts because he knows their actual human selves are watching and laughing their asses off. The recent problem Jax is actually struggling with is getting too chummy with Pomni because human Ribbit is likely watching and their bonding jeopardizes his real-world relationship. Now Jax is going crazy trying to remain the "funny guy" for what's in essence a hidden-camera reality show while making sure his real human self benefits from his antics when the only way to maintain the facade is to trash all social connections. He's a slave living and working for himself.

Does that make sense?

>>149919336
How their real selves will watching at them if they are literally sucked into the circus in body and soul?

>>149918795
>At this point the question should be "Why hasn't anyone done something about Jax?" if he such a monster.

If the other characters really wanted to hurt Jax and provoke him into abstracting simply to get rid of him. They would intentionally do everything in their power to ignore him. Let him fester alone. And the instant he does ANYTHING do what Pomni and Zooble did hurt him physically and better yet lock him in a place he can't get out of. And if someone new enters the circus inform them into detail why Jax is shit.

Basically intentionally give Jax a punishment for his awful nature in the hopes not that he gets better but that he finally abstracts. But doing this requires making Pomni, Ragatha, Kinger, Gangle, and Zooble intentionally devious and I know modern writers don't like doing that with their main characters who are marketed as good unless its a major subversion like Heluva Boss where the main characters are demons from Hell. Jax is lucky he's stuck in this type of show because realistically he would be put to suffer.


It's pure nonsense that NONE of the main characters have thought "Something must be permanently done about Jax." Humans are like this, even the goodie two shoes if you provoke them enough they will start to dislike and hate. This never ending tolerance for Jax's nature is nonsense. Really wanted the entire gang to hold Jax down and intentionally shoot him three times to get rid of his hearts in the recent episode and THEN they decide to play the adventure. That would have been funny, Jax being the first to get eliminated because everyone including his teammate dislikes him.

>>149918795
> Why hasn't anyone done something about Jax?
Multiple factors, I think.
It's hard to avoid someone whose bedroom is right next to yours. They're like siblings stuck in the same house. They sort of have to give him a long leash, or else he might retaliate and make their lives even worse.
If they try to isolate him to stop that from happening, he'd either break out and become an even bigger menace, or he'd abstract, and I don't think any of them want to do that to someone. He's "family", after all.
Also, I suspect he used to be better, maybe just a good-hearted prankster, and people wanted to help him as he was declining. Now he's gotten so bad people are really pushing back, like Zooble looking out for Gangle.
It's hard to say if he's too far gone now, or if there's still a chance for him to find redemption.

>>149919567
Well, There's on chance for redemption for jax, and i hope he dosen't have one.

It would be refreshing to see that not everyone can be reedemed.

>>149919105
That can be overriden if the entire cast agrees to share what they think makes them feel inadequate for the united goal of beating Jax down.

>>149918795
He was hiding behind his edgy persona so he wouldn't let anyone get close to him and risk losing another friend. Pomni kept pushing him to be friends, but he kept pushing her away to the point where he tried to be as cartoonishly mean as he could be. Nobody think he's truly an evil monster or anything- he's just an asshole that doesn't want to take anything seriously. That is all there is to it.

>>149920003
You Stevenfags will not last the Series end.

>>149918212

>>149920003
https://x.com/Yenomsir07/status/1787992065181118750

>>149920127
Yeah, he's not the Funny one, he's the Wicked one.
The Antagonist.

>>149920127
>See gangle happy even under her happy mask
I think this is the most fun she had in any adventure, by a wide margin. I also apperciate this show giving set ups and payoffs like the tommy gun.

>>149920260
It sucks that she didn't even get a shot on them though

If I get dubs then Jax will be the first one to abstract

>>149920276
>It sucks that
doesn't matter, she had fun.

>>149920136
>Jax is just acting like a big brother to Gangle, he doesn't mean any of it!
>Gangle and Zooble talk about Jax as if he's an abusive ex (friend or boyfriend)

I just love when Pomni's eyes do this thing.

>>149920382
even after that she have fun with kinger and ragatha.

>>149920408
He's literally emotionally abusing her by breaking her comedy mask all the time. Literally not allowing her to be happy.

>>149920447
People complain about the writing not being subtle but with this fanbase that's a good thing.

>>149918795
>At this point the question should be "Why hasn't anyone done something about Jax?" if he such a monster.
wild a bunch of you think this is some kind of enigma when it's just a basic bullying/harassment dynamic that exists everywhere in media and real life.

>>149918795
>At this point the question should be "Why hasn't anyone done something about Jax?" if he such a monster.
Because all he's done is be annoying. That's not "murder" worthy.

>>149920598
The fandoms opinions on Jax either range from "He's a disgusting monster" to "He didn't do anything 'that' bad" when he's just an asshole who picks on people because it helps him cope
There are people who took his cringe monologue at face value

I wonder if we’ll get a flashback to whatever went down with Ribbit. I’m curious about what “character archetype” he might’ve fit into, if any.

>>149920867
The slut

Jax mf thinks he's goddamn Bugs Bunny

Who cares, all the characters will die. They're all jerks who deserve to be there, remember?

>>149920877
Thats Zooble

>>149919525
His argument with Pomni felt like a point of no return. They are gonna try to force him to change and it’ll be his undoing.

>>149920775
how bad Jax's actions are is one thing. "Why hasn't anyone done something about Jax?" should be a much simpler question
"why isn't anything done about bullies?" is just the last thing I'd expected to be asked in this hobby, on this image board.

>>149920916
This. It’s why he got so angry at Ragatha doing the backfiring gun bit. He wishes he’d done it.

>>149920921
based on what

>>149918207 (OP)
He's going to rape Ragatha?

>>149920867
The Milhouse
>>149920921
none of them can ever die. abstracting and getting sent to the cellar isn't death, they just pretend it is

>>149920751
Gangle is fucking terrified of him, he can cope all he wants with "ackshually she loves it" and "she's incapable of being happy anyway", but that shit WILL eventually push someone into abstraction

>>149918721
>Bowling ball is escape
>Cake is abstraction
Cope.com

>>149921073
Jax says something very true, we did not know ribbit, nor did we know what he or the others were like before they abstracted.

Also kaufmo abstracted because of Caine and his "Unfinished exit adventure"

They must have abstracted themselves for different reasons, but Pomni makes the mistake of indirectly blaming him for the abstraction of previous humans

>>149918207 (OP)
Isn't his whole thing that he's trans?

Sisters, what does this mean.

>>149921134
HE is not, you moron.

they know what theyre doing

>>149921151
It means stop holding onto funnybunny, Jax torpedoed it into the ground

>>149921134
No he's gay and his frog bf went crazy and turned into a monster.

>>149921217
Jax torpedoed FunnyBunny the very episode the ship was starting to gain some semblance of ground, you love to see it

>>149921134
That's zooble, jax thing is that he is a faggot.

>>149919336
They are real people who were digitized and got sucked into the computer. Stop this npc theory nonsense .
>>149919131
>>149919525
>>149919567
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>>149920127
>>149920172
>>149920598
This episode spelled out, with no ambiguity, that he acts like an ass because he's so emotionally damaged that he's dissasociting with reality and trying to make everyone hate him so that he won't feel it if they abstract and, maybe, they won't be hurt if he does, and the show has well forshadowed that it's not working for him and his facade is cracking. How are you guys missing this?
>>149920003
This is correct
>>149920447
And for this, I ask a question: what is jax's actual feeling on gangle? In episode 5 he asks if gangle can actually be happy, exposing that he may actually care for her. He does constantly take her happy mask, but we've seen that her masks are placebos at best and that her emotions are actually under her control. Jax may be trying to convince her she doesn't need them, hes just going about in an aggressive way.

I want to be Jax's plaything so badly fuuuck

>>149921162
Kek

>>149921120
I'm assuMING he did try the Ragatha method of positive reinforcement with Ribbit, based off this line:
>If you tell someone they're loved and appreciated every day, it just kind of loses all meaning
And it backfired horribly, so his autistic mind went too far in the opposite direction

>>149921217
>>149921253
All ships were torpedoed the moment the creator said they'd be no ships.

>>149921291
>How are you guys missing this?
everyone here is severely autistic my friend
also they did not get "sucked into the computer". they put on the headset and a copy of their brain pattern was created and put into the circus, while the real one simply took it off and moved on

>>149921291
I don't know why you're including me in this since I'm not wrong

>>149921272
Zooble is a Girl, Faggot.

>>149918207 (OP)
has anyone been so far as to consider the implications of them being hooked up to the machine in comes the stimulus and food and out goes the output. But were does the shit go? were does the piss go? have these people been sitting on piles upon piles of piss and shit for months while playing the game?

>>149921325
That’s way lamer than Tron rules

>>149921337
Why you all are so Allergic to Evil characters?

>>149921325
What do you base that on?
>>149921331
I don't know which one was you. I'm sorry if I miss clicked.

I need to watch the other episodes 3-5 first but then I'll actually say shit

Friendly reminder not make an ASS out of U and MING.

>>149918207 (OP)
>Jax will do something
>when the show is almost over
i hope its abstraction, because the show ending without a single character abstracting would be very lame after entire episode introduction to that concept

>This episode states kinger was the first one in the circus
Well there goes my theory of ragatha being from the 50s or something, since kinger himself said he was a software developer.
She still didn't get the breaking bad reference though, so she still could be from like the 90s, or just extremely sheltered.

>>149921322
I think that line was more about somebody else telling him every day that he’s loved and appreciated, until he stopped believing them.

If Jax was ever all that noticeably nice to anybody, I think Ragatha would have at least offhand mentioned that by now.

>>149918795
>He makes himself out to be this grand psycho genius manipulator, yet he hasn't really done anything worth of note.
Because it's a coping mechanism for trauma you stupid fucking baboon.

>>149918207 (OP)
The show already revealed its cards when it comes to Jax. Already every non autistic fan is able to tell that he is being an asshole as a form of self loathing and blaming himself for abstraction of other friends and that he fear Pomni or Ragatha will abstract too if they get close to him. Him being a villain or a genuine asshole is no longer on the plate. Although its not that shocking since most analysis channels were able to tell he's a LARPer after episode 2 Kaufmo funeral.

>>149921479
My bet’s on sheltered.

>>149921363
This story doesn't need to be on tron rules because it's about character drama and not action and escaping

>>149918795
>He makes himself out to be this grand psycho genius manipulator, yet he hasn't really done anything worth of note.
that's the point anon, you're supposed to recognize this
he's full of shit

>>149921479
It's possible to know of something and not anything about it. Ragatha might have heard about BB but never saw it.

>>149918721
Gummigoo will sacrifice himself and rest will escape

>>149920127
bruh this cherry picked scenes are reddit tier, they are stil 85% the way he describe them as

>>149921291
>>149921555
It ain't that serious, man.

>>149921162
Nah, they have been doing similar shipping shit with Gummigoo and Pomni. Glitch just milking the fandom because they need the merch money

>>149921524
I read this while scrolling the first page. This is baby speak. How are you not embarassed by this post and by watching this crap? /co/ has the most mentally regressed people. Christ.

>>149918207 (OP)
I have never seen this level of faggotry ever since Kokichi Ouma

>>149921337
>option 1: They’re in a hospital setting and there’s a nurse changing the bedpan or whatever
>option 2: They’re experiencing time distortion and the time passing that their minds are experiencing isn’t in sync with their bodies. They feel like years have passed, when in reality it’s only been a couple hours, maybe less
>option 3: They’re digital copies who were never attached to physical bodies in the first place and/or are completely detached from their bodies, which maybe are dead

>>149921509
It is about character stuff, but having them be memory scans, as guys seem to want so bad, for some reason, would have the emotional effect on the audience of putting a Sim in a pool, removing the ladder, and then reloading the save after they drown. There'd be no consequences if they're just simulator data. I really don't think this show is going to turn out to be dwarf fortress.

>>149921589
>Glitch just milking the fandom because they need the merch money
yes, exactly. that is what they know that they are doing. and its great, i have missed shipping and shipping wars so much

>>149921217
>b-but 3 more episode-
nothing will happen, we still need Ragatha story conclusion, possibly Queenie and Kinger conlusion, ending premise resolved (escape or trapped forever) and Pomni didn't even had any story time with Zooble or anyone beside Caine even had story deep dive into Zooble backstory

>>149921318
this is my sister's mindset, she's in her late 40s and still acting on this principle

>>149921253
are you new to shipping? in the 2000s, a fictional pairing could canonically say "we aren't interested in each other," marry completely different people, and you'd still have 5000 fanfics about how that's incorrect.

the more you try to bury a ship, the more shippers will dig it up.

>>149921595
Its literally a board where we in 90% discuss cartoons for kids or teens, why would you even be here?

>>149921595
He lives in a video game candy kingdom probably loosely inspired by baby games like Candy Land or Candy Crush, and he himself is an alligator version of a gummi bear. The name suits this cartoon character very well.

I suggest you browse a different image board if you are seeking more mature media for a mature person such as yourself.

>>149918207 (OP)
>people still trying to psychoanalyze Jax like he’s a complex psychological case study
Jax pushes people away because he was gay for frog guy. He fears corn because he had to work on a farm doing manual labor, the tranny leftist that writes this show’s worst nightmare. Now he’s heckin traumatized from having to work and losing his boyfriend that hes toxically masculine (codeword for straight white male). By the end he’ll be saved by the power of gay. The end. I saved you guys a whole year of waiting. you’re welcome.

>>149921678
Yeah pretty much, even if Jax confessed and kissed Ragatha, people would still cope and push for RagaPom or FunnyBunny

>>149918207 (OP)
Why did nobody vote for Caine? Like not even bubble did?

>>149921337
Why do you assume they’re capable of eating anything but also assume they can’t use a toilet?

>>149921337
>>149921624
pretty sure episode 1 made it pretty clear it's option 3

>>149921484
Yeah that could track with Ragatha lamenting the fact she failed him, but I also take everything Jax says as projection.
I really hope that they're building up to a flashback episode that makes everything click in hindsight like my beloved Chinese cartoon, Meduka Meguca instead of blueballing us with headcanons.

>>149921715
Who was even voting? I’m actually unclear whether or not the committee is a bunch of NPCs that Caine himself created. It can’t be made of the player characters because there were way too many votes.

>>149921752
Ok, how so?

>>149921692
This is my favourite interpretation. And seeing how Avatar TLA sequel is being ruined with the main guy being a gay parent, I only expect more gay shit when it comes to TADC and Jax. Like by this point Michael Kovach will always play gay tumblr men

>>149918207 (OP)
Finally, he will be worthy of his title of the show's douchebag.
>>149918795
lol, lmao.
>b-but they don't feel any p-
Yes they do.
https://youtu.be/HwAPLk_sQ3w&t=1372

>>149921715
I think "the Comitee" voted or whoever is watching the show and gives Caine orders

>>149921692
You guys are really obsessed with this gay thing, even for shitposting.

>>149921715
>>149921783
>>149921820
The committee was NPCs/the mannequins, which is interesting seeing Kinger and Pomni get so many stickers.

>>149919407
Literally the first sentence.
>>149919336
>Jax knows all the humans in the circus are just copies of their consciousness with some memories removed.
>>149921291
Why would humans be teleported into software? Wouldn't it be easier to just copy their minds and import them into the circus?

The audience includes themselves and us. They uploaded themselves for entertainment, a psychological experiment.

>>149920916
In my dub he quoted Bugs like five times already

>>149921828
Jax's gay frog friend was definitely gay thou
source: he looks like a gay frog

>>149921777
I’d love a flashback episode to some pre Pomni arrival events

>turns out everything in the Circus has been being recorded the entire time
>Pomni gets to watch a video or a ghost of christmas past style experience where she sees what happened to Ribbit
>part of why everything is so glitchy is because the circus is running out of memory space to hold all of these recordings (on top of Caine going crazy)
>shit starts hitting the fan and the characters realize they gotta delete the records to fix the Circus before it becomes unbearable in some way
>Jax is put in a position where he has to delete the video of Ribbit and essentially erase a memento of his dead friend, reliving his trauma of losing him

>>149921802
>Pomni sees outside the void
>Pomni returns looking defeated (and never mentions trying to exit again)
>last scene of the episode zooms out of the void to this

I will say I am disappointed that the voting did nothing I thought their might be something cool for the winner/winning pair

>>149918207 (OP)
remember when they stated that this was a comedy series and there wasn't going to be 2 deep 4 u lore

>>149921931
>source: he looks like a gay frog
Big if true

>>149921949
Unless everything was rigged from the start (except possibly Caine being in last place) there was no way they could've planned something around the poll. Jax won by six votes, imagine if they animated a Pomni win.

>>149921949
That’s what you get for making an ass out of ming.

>>149921938
Fuck, at the very least there has to be an archive of the previous award shows

>>149921715
The committee, who are a bunch of LIARS telling Caine how much they love him then literally gave him no starts at all lmao

Funnily enough most of the votes went to Kinger and Pomni. Pomni I can see as a recency bias but idk why Kinger got so many as well, maybe they recognize him as developer and voted for him out of obligation

>>149922000
You know what you get for making a ass out of Ming?
You get what you fucking deserve!

>>149921514
Ragatha didn't even know what they were referencing, she says as much.

>>149921944
What if Pomni is off screen on the floor wearing a second headset? Or she already got moved to the hospital? Or this is not the location where anyone has yet put on the headset, the empty headset is simply meant to be awaiting a new player to join, and the characters are all in different rooms? Or it’s a monitor device for someone who is allowed to simply watch?

The copy theory is a good theory, but there are other explanations for this screenshot.

>>149921949
The only guaranteed outcome was Caine losing big time, which we will see the consequences of in the next episodes.

>>149921888
>Why would humans be teleported into software? Wouldn't it be easier to just copy their minds and import them into the circus?
No, because who cares about that? Again, Tron is also unrealistic, and those people aren't even teleported into a game, they're literally in the computer software. But, who cares, it's sci fi. The headset digitizes people and sucks them in, that's all we need. Why do you want sci fi to be grounded, technologically speaking?

>>149921692
Faggots hate Actual Evil Characters.

>>149921888
>just copy their minds, bro, it’s easy

It’s a fun science fiction thought experiment, but that’s not a real thing. It’s about as realistic and makes as much sense as if a wizard walked up and magicked them into the circus. I know the digital mind copy idea suits the genre of the show better, but it’s not like it’s necessarily in universe “easier” than any other mad science explanation.

>>149922094
Because The Amazing Digital Circus is a 90s computer game. While there is some sci-fi in the premise, the story is clearly about the characters and their relationships.

Imagine the fun songs Pomni and Jax would duet together at karaoke night. They'd probably be really obnoxious but still entertaining.

>>149922063
And? Again, you hear of something and still not know anything about it. I've never watched breaking bad, either, and I only know about the plot because I happened to hear it on a random podcast. Other than that, I couldn't tell you anything else besides bryan Cranston, Walter white, and Bob odenkirk.

>>149921952
Its not really that deep, its like Hazbin Hotel level of teen drama bullshit with zero masculinity, because masculine men dont talk about feelings, they are stoic protectors. But this show is for modern soi audience

You guys are going to call me a schizo for this one, but when Ragatha said "not anymore" I thought she was talking about herself. That way makes the whole series WAY more interesting than it being about some boring no name dead frog who we're never going to meet. In fact every time they talk about characters who we will never see should have just been removed or rewritten to be about characters who are actually a part of the show. Idc about Rags's mom or Kinger's wife. Just watch I'm calling it right now, those two will never be important. We will never even know their names.

Imagine if Jax had once BEGGED Ragatha to stay his friend and she refused but like it wasn't nearly as bitter a breakup for her as it was for him and she knows this and she feels bad for him for not having any friends but she just couldn't be his friend anymore becausehe doesn't deserve it. And like, she hates him kind of but she didn't mean to rub it in when Pomni asked about it and Jax felt betrayed because Ragatha was supposed to be like mature and respectful about it.

Or alternatively, Jax is or was in LOVE with Ragatha and she knows this but turned him down before.

>>149922014
That’s assuMing the camera wasn’t purely for show.

>>149922199
back to tumblr with this gay shit

>>149922186
And the sci fi elements hurt the story how?

>>149922208
Not schizo at all, it makes way less sense for Ragatha to shit talk him for losing Ribbit.

>>149921291
Cry harder, Grey-area finder.

>>149922201
If ragatha's mom is a rich controlling bitch there is no way she wouldn't have investigators look for ragatha if she suddenly vanished. With how many people are in the circus there would be multiple missing person cases all leading to the C&A building.

Jax is just going completely fucking insane and is on the way to being abstracted.
What seems to ammount to Abstraction is players essentially giving up on their existence and surrendering their sentience.
King is senile, but he's still around because he's a kind and caring guy who bonds with anyone he has a chance to.
Gangle almost abstracted before Pomni showed her a friendly gesture, and now she's friends with Zooble.
Jax, meanwhile, is pretending like they're not people, but mere archetypes, so he's already dehumanizing himself and others, and it's largely because he's afraid of pain from losing friends to abstaction, likely contributing to it happening to ribbit and/or kaufmo.
Him pushing Pomni away might've been the final nail for him, and now he's just on his death's bed before he gives up on it all and commits to abstracting.

>>149922239
Ur gay

>>149922208
>kinger's wife is unimportant
i'm still holding on to my theory that she's still hiding in the pillow fort and will end up getting released. its probably not going to happen but i still like the idea.

>>149922208
I don't think it's love but the fact he is very aggresive toward her when either putting her into boiling oil or shooting her, might actually mean he's much more worried about befriending Ragatha and making her abstract. I mean if we assume he rejected Pomni from similar reasons then they should apply to other members too. he just wasn't expecting Pomni to connect with him so fast

>>149922182
Oh, we should all know copying your mind isn't feasible technology (at least in our universe right now), but it must be easier to convert just the mind into a digital form/copy than it is to convert the entire human body into some wacky digital form.

Whatever is going on, the software is intentionally removing select memories for some reason.

>>149922217
Kinger seemed somewhat shocked by it.
>>149922208
I'm sure that rags was applying her statement to herself as well as the abstracted friends, as we saw in her therapy session with kinger.

>>149922262
Weird how the pillow fort was set up as Kinger’s whole thing but we haven’t seen it in ages.

>>149921291
Evil comes in many shapes and sizes, also as a Corruptive force.

Like a Darkness that taint the Soul.

>>149922245
>Ragatha's billboard

>>149922064
or the entire series is a dream, or the imagination of some kid playing with toys, etc. there can always be some bullshit twist to walk back any scene but it's pretty clear what the creators intended. this part of the show isn't supposed to be a core mystery.
also last episode Pomni said her hobby was exploring abandoned buildings. that's not even being subtle about it.

>>149922208
After episode 6 I get the impression that they were friends once too, and I'm REALLY curious about what happened and what their real feelings are towards each other. Ragatha said she hates Jax (but she was on stupid sauce) but that she doesn't want him to hate her AND that she feels like she failed HIM. Like what the fuck happened?

>Jax is or was in LOVE with Ragatha and she knows this but turned him down before.
I like Bunnydoll but I doubt this happened

>>149922288
Well yeah, caine told him to come to the stage for the game announcement, so he left the fort and went to the stage.

>>149922219
You sound genuinely autistic.

>>149922288
Maybe it's a sign he's improving, and he's slowly coming around on acting generally more sane?
He was semi-lucid this whole episode, even before he was put into the dimly lit room, I think Pomni being a more or less reasonable person, and him reminiscing about his wife helped reawaken King so now he's coming out of his shell more.

>>149918795
What if he killed Kaufmo?

>>149922302
I think Ragatha, Ribbit and Jax were all friends.

>>149922257
You're as retarded as the People who comment in youtube.

>>149922326
all that because you got called a faggot, lol

I'm going to rewrite this show after it's finished.

>>149922302
I think she tried to be a guide and a friend to Jax early on, and they got on well enough, until Jax really hit it off with Ribbit. I feel like Jax was really attached to Ribbit, and his abstraction caused Jax to harden up into his current troll persona, causing Ragatha to become more and more exasperated with him blowing her off to the point they just became bitter with each other.

>>149922351
Why not make a new ip while you're at it.

>>149922351
Unironically what I was planning on doing was waiting until it was finished to write my own fic about it

>>149920127
His ass ain't even the funny one, Ragatha is. Running around acting like Bugs Bunny.

>>149922325
I think so too but I wonder why they've been putting more focus on Jax's connection to them. Ribbit probably wasn't the first abstraction Jax had seen.

>>149922366
Because.>>149922353

>>149922351
If i were to rewrite it i would make it all about Pomni and Gummigoo going on advnetures and learning what is like to be human while one of the human circus members is a real villain and act more callous than a machine and you have Pomni actually choosing between eliminating a nice guy NPC and evil human basically deciding who is more human

>>149922245
We don't know that, one way or the other, because the show doesn't leave the computer. Besides, Ragatha could be the only person we know that could have a connection to the abandoned building as a real estate agent, but even if the cops checked the place, what would they assume, that the computer ate her?
At this point, pomni's YouTube videos might lead to someone investigating, if she suddenly vanished while filming and a viewer noticed, however she might not have gotten to filming yet. She did say her channel wasn't very popular.

>>149922344
I'm not your mirror, faggot.

Face the Fact Jax is An Irredeemable monster.
Also complex one with its layers.

>>149922272
Why? Why should that be easier? What proof do you have that there is this separate entity called your “mind” that can exist without your body? The thing you’re thinking of is called a soul. It’s a spiritual concept of faith for which there can be no proof of the existence of. As long as you are alive, you ARE your brain, and your brain IS an organ that needs most of the rest of your body to work. You can’t just plug a wire in and download it. That’s just a modern day interpretation of the idea of a little ghost version of you with angel wings that floats up out of you when you get conked on the head and then flies up to heaven. You can theoretically maybe at best create an AI that sorta mimics your patterns of behavior, but that’s it.

>>149920442
>Gangle won't even talk to me
>Instantly becomes a kitty

I am literally Jax.

People wanna rape me I hate women and I’m a retard when it comes to my own emotions.

>>149922408
>>149922426
>>149922443
Are there any versions of these where they're telling him to run over Gangle with a car

>>149922460
I think?

>>149920921
>>149920974
Based on Gooseworx saying Jax deserves to be there. Something that hasn't been said about anyone else.

>>149922201
She didn't even know that much, which is the point.

>>149922475
that kind of knocks out the "jax in an npc" theory, doesnt it?

>>149921029
>abstracting and getting sent to the cellar isn't death, they just pretend it is
i mean you're essentially dead if your mind is wiped. im sure we'll get a happy ending where the abstraction can be cured though of course.

>>149921291
>>149918212
Is the Beginning of the End

https://youtube.com/shorts/e_xvxZL6yKA?si=thBvqIblkH22lB0c

>>149922429
The part about "Gangle and Zooble never speak to me" is spiraling on Ragatha's part. Not literally true.
Everyone can tell Ragatha's faking it by being nice but they still get along, at the start of episode 4 she was teaching Gangle how to throw the ball, and Zooble's been cool with Ragatha before, mainly before Kaufmo's funeral.

Thing is, because Ragatha appointed herself as the team caretaker, she never got the chance to develop actual 1-on-1 friendships with them (while Kinger is insane and Jax is another box of worms). So Ragatha's relationship with Gangle and Zooble is akin to that chill classmate you sometimes talk to, but who's not really your pal.

Hence why Pomni is such a focus project for Ragatha. If she really is sheltered on top of the abusive mom, Pomni may well be her first girly friend in a long while

>>149922245
They could also just be mind clones. You put the headset on, it clones you, and the real you continues on in real life.

>>149921318
>>149921650
The sad thing is unlike in the show the women will stop being attracted to the guy if he actually becomes healthier and tries to love her back.

>>149922475
Everything goose has said about what happens in the show has been vague enough to not spoil the story. Whatever this statement means, it won't be straightforward.

>>149921624
>option 1: They’re in a hospital setting and there’s a nurse changing the bedpan or whateve
in an abandoned building?
>option 2: They’re experiencing time distortion and the time passing that their minds are experiencing isn’t in sync with their bodies. They feel like years have passed, when in reality it’s only been a couple hours, maybe less
doesnt make sense with how many people keep wandering into the game
>option 3: They’re digital copies who were never attached to physical bodies in the first place and/or are completely detached from their bodies, which maybe are dead
why would make sense for a game to work like that? it would make the digital circus an idle game were you just watch the screen

>>149922538
Why are you guys standing on this so hard? I have to know.

>>149922408
Nta but jax is an irredeemable idiot and he isn't complex at all, everyone can see right through his bullshit.
You may not be a minor but you seem mentally stunned.

>>149922602
It's the plot of other properties where they bring into question if whether 'split' consciousness inside the game or the real original consciousness outside is the real one

>>149922535
I agree it's Ragatha being retarded AKA hating herself

I just think her level of denial is funny. Gangle is so ready to be her friend, doubts of sincerity aside.

>>149922608
I wouldn't say irredeemable. being an ass and pushing people away doesn't mean you can't be fixed

>>149922429
Kinger smashing Ragatha while she's possessed by gangle!
An intergenerational sandwich!

>>149922602
Because they want an over all happy ending where the real humans never got harmed and live a normal life and not have to be emotionally invested on the characters journeys. These people will be at the end of the series and say "well this as fun and nice but wasn't real so it was pointless" so they can easily dismiss the whole show and focus on the next slop that becomes popular and never talk about it.

>>149922408
Oh I’m not denying that he’s horrible, I’m just acknowledging that he’s a horrible faggot who can’t help but get all pissy about someone wanting to be friendly
And a villain who would probably cry like a bitch if you started fighting back

>>149918207 (OP)
Will Jax discourse become the Vriska discourse of TADC? It's feeling that way

>>149922585
>why would make sense for a game to work like that? it would make the digital circus an idle game were you just watch the screen
it's not a video game for people watching the screen. they got their brains scanned and uploaded to a computer for whatever reason. it's become a common sci-fi trope

>>149922657
>Zooble: you're a person, not his toy
>Jax: sometimes it doesn't feel that way
But hurting them to make it seem like you don't care does, im not saying they won't forgive him but they certainly shouldn't

>>149922637
>>149922704
>Common sci fi trope
>therefore any media ever made has to be that way, IT JUST HAS TO
y'all brain scan fags are so boring, this is why people prefer fantasy

>>149922713
>Gangle*
Ffs kek.

>>149919336
If Jax knows they're just copies, why is he constantly surprised by Caine's ability to screw with his mind? That seems more like he's slowly realizing that he isn't human.

So it's confirmed Kinger is Able, the co-founder of this whole VR world, right?

>>149922808
No

>>149922669
Not him, but if the show went down that route, then it would literally lead to existential dread. As shown by other pieces of media that use this same idea, it would literally have to put in a lot of work to have some kind of a happy ending since they can't truly escape. The happiest ending is if they've all been sucked in somehow and are actually capable of escaping.

>>149922679
I mean, he's complex in the way he have His Reasons to be Evil.

No Complex like he can be Reedemed,like the Analisis of the villain.
Like Caine who at this point will become a Tragic Villain.

>>149918619

>>149922585
>why would make sense for a game to work like that?
Maybe it’s not a game all along.

>>149922834
they get robot bodies and have to start working and paying rent in the real irl

>>149922808
No

>>149922754
>show explicitly starts with a specific trope
>NO IT CANT BE THAT

This episode was both great and stupid.
Frankly the plotline is a bit retarded.
Jax is clearing acting with a cope of
>SEE! I AM IN CONTROL! I AM IN CONTROL! I AM SO MEAN BECAUSE I NEED TO BE IN CONTROL WE'RE PLAYING ROLES AND I DISSOCIATE AS A RESULT AND KEEP MYSELF SANE!"
But it's weird that this happens only in front of Pomni.
Like this never happened with anyone before?
Nobody tried to genuinely have a talk with Jax?
Or Ragatha for that matter, is this the FIRST TIME EVER that Kinger and someone else spent time in the dark?
Is this the FIRST TIME EVER Gangle was taken away from Jax?
The plot is at least moving forward and Kinger remains the greatest character ever by making Ragatha stop being a retard and actually talking to Pomni, still I wish the show didn't act as if everything was stagnant before Pomni came along.
>I have so much history! You don't know how it was like it before!
Well then show you have history by making you have deeper, more complex relationships with the rest of the cast?
Pomni isn't enough of a driving force to warrant her suddenly uncovering all this built up trauma, honestly Pomni is the exact same as Ragatha except Ragatha for some reason gets more flack drawn to her: they're both straight characters who react to weird things happening to them and often get abused for the sake of laughs, only by circumstance does one get to see the real shit happening and the other is ineffectual with her wanting to make things better.

Bubble is actually Able, controlling Caine while hiding in plain sight.
The greatest trick the Devil has ever pulled, was convince everyone he's a lowly comic relief.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tyHWFphEcc
A meme so old even Ragatha will get it.

>>149922870
Now his son have someone to hang out.

>>149922917
I don’t think that’s how the bible story goes.

>>149922917
is that why he knows all the slurs?

So does Gangle's voice actress still ship Gangle and Jax?

I genuinely am pretty anxious about the fate of Jax. He is absolutely my favorite character and I absolutely loved everything about episode 6. But considering all the foreshadowing Goose has been dropping, I'm really scared about his fate at the end of everything.

I really really don't want him to abstract, man.

>>149923110
i feel like whatever path he travels down these next three episodes, its going to make us wish he had abstracted.

side note, i am thriving on all of the angst-ridden fanart this episode has produced. it makes me feel young again.

>>149923129
>side note

Same. I just wish the fic writers would follow suit. Too much sappy "oh no I'm sad" "but Jax I love you" "I love you too Pomni I'm happy now" bullshit going on for my liking.

>>149923095
As recent as SDCC, yes, she drew a bunch of hearts around them on some stuff she autographed.

What if Caine made everyone work in Spudsy's or an accounting firm for 5 days a week and let them have adventures for 2 days a week then one week a year they have a different kind of adventure?

>>149923095
She saw the hand holding and her brain shut off at the “he makes me feel like I’m not a person” speech.

>>149923150
she has fantastic taste

I haven't watched since episode 3 released last year and holy fuck, they've turned Pomni into a complete cock hound.

I'm still holding onto Pomni and Ragatha healing Jax.

>>149923149
i may have to fix that. i havent written fanfiction in years but i think i still have it in me.

>>149923201
>I haven't watched
I can tell

>>149922585
>abandoned building
Im really annoyed about how fans took that line and ran away with building headcanons around it. I have never seen it as indicating that any of the headsets the characters put on were ever in abandoned buildings. Abandoned buildings never have working power or computers in them.

It’s like Jax’s fear of corn. The day after that episode, all kinds of anons were dead certain it must mean Jax suffered some kind of corn related trauma, and that this was solid evidence he grew up on a farm. Then this episode drops and it turns out he has trypophobia.

>>149923180
She does

>>149923201
She managed to fuck Gummigoo, Kinger and Jax in just 6 episodes

I've watched a ton of reactions, and most people think Jax was having a panic attack.

What do you think? Was it a panic attack or was he about to abstract? Both are very different.

>>149923244
Are they?

>>149923214
>Abandoned buildings never have working power or computers in them.
they do, you would be surprised thats squatter gold running water and power

>>149918422
Ragatha's body after Jax mag dumped.

>>149923214
Abandoned buildings still have powers and Goose unintentionally fueled the farm theory way before episode 5 came out.

>>149923252
Proof?

>>149923201
Poor Ragatha has a crush on the straightest woman alive

>>149923244
>I've watched a ton of reactions
why do you do this

>>149923250
I imagine having an 'abstract attack' means you're mentally about to lose yourself to the void, while a panic attack is just regular anxiety. There's no fear on abstraction from a panic attack. I think if he was about to abstract from his confrontation with Pomini, it'd have far more importance/weight.

>>149923250
NTA but I was talking to a coworker of mine about the episode today and she (female) also thought it was a panic attack before I told her it was 100% him about to abstract.

>>149923273
there were people growimg weed in an abandoned building by the highway in my town

>>149923201
I want art of a proud Pomni wearing a ribbon that says "Straightest Woman Award".

>>149923294
>talking to a coworker of mine about the episode today
I wanted to call you and your workplace a bunch of freaks but I envy you desu. Where do you work where TADC is a regular topic of conversation?

I find it curious that someone who warned Jax not to upset Caine continues to anger Caine.
Can't Zooble see how Caine keeps failing and glitching in front of everyone?

>>149923244
I guess after rewatching that scene, it does seem like it was just a panic attack. If they wanted abstraction they would do the glitching shit on his skin

>>149923311
Restaurant. She's a theater geek so it's not really that surprising that she watches the show. She's also definitely not a normie, though I've never confirmed. You'd be surprised what normies watch and pay attention too. Yeah, a lot of it is zoomer tiktok shit, but there's another coworker of mine who loves Zach Hadel and watches Smiling Friends.

Before you ask, I'm a cock sucking faggot so she's not exactly my type

>>149923319
Zooble has 0 computer literacy.

>>149923349
Is Stupid Sauce real? Do you guys work while intoxicated?

>>149923369
People hit weed vapes in the bathroom all the time. If you ever think your server is high, he/she probably is (unless it's too busy for them to find the time to hit the bathroom)

>>149923252
>>149923268
An unoccupied building might have power. This is when somebody owns that building, and they have some level of intending to flip it later and sell it, so they keep some level of maintenance over it. These buildings may or may not have some kind of security and are usually harder to break into for the casual urban explorer, and are also usually less interesting.

An abandoned building, the kind that is better for urban exploration, has typically had its power shut off. Somebody probably owns the land, but they’ve given up on restoring the building and are allowing it to fall into disrepair. No one is paying a power or water bill on these places.

>>149921555
i mean thats the point right? he claims they're all one way that they are "cartoons" that can be summed up and no it turns out they are all multifaceted people in the context of the show.

>>149923339
The problem is we haven't seen anyone begin to abstract. Perhaps the glitching only happens after they've fully abstracted. All we know is that abstraction happens when someone reaches their breaking point, and I think Jax was coming close to it

>>149922408
i don't think he is a monster. he is a asshole but so far doesn't seem like he would kill someone on purpose. Like Pomni said he is just a coward looser putting up a hardcore and sociopath/emotionless mask, but we saw him already having 1 breaking down moment. He does care to people but its too imature and egoistical to understand terms with passing of other people and his own emotions. he is self destructive and will only be worse and worse for him if he doesn't accept that he needs others in his life to be healthy where he likes it or not.

>>149922912
First scenes pilot Pomni looks rough

>>149923399
Abandoned buildings can still have power because the city or whoever wants to keep the fire alarm system operational.

>>149923214
>Abandoned buildings never have working power or computers in them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCssyRYfYw8&t=950s

I feel like beginning to abstract would also lead to a panic attack which would then just make it spiral even more.

>>149923203
I feel like they're going to kill him with kindness literally.
Once Pomni tells Ragatha what happened, that Jax had a huge moment of weakness, they are gonna double down on trying to make him change and he won't be able to handle it.

>>149923361
I'm sure even the most foolish person would realize something is wrong.

>>149923285
It's fun to see how others feel about the series. Obviously don't watch the ones who only react because they are riding off easy Youtube money due to this series being popular. Those are easy to spot because their reactions are forced/padded to hell.

>>149923273
*not all abandoned buildings get condemned a large amount get caught in legal troubles when the people in charge can no longer mantain it this can actually last for decades for example in a bankrupcy and can actually remain operational while being abandoned if the company cant pay owed mney to the workers so iit keeps going in a reduced state while employees collect the money the corporation that no longer exists had to pay them its wierd and thats why companies that close down usually take all the equiment out first
buildings often enter this wierd state were nobody owns it not eve the state something simillar is about to happen to me were my great grandfather built a school thats falling appart and there are like 8 owners and the city refuses to condem it because they want us to pay to dismantle it but we cant afford to either so we are looking for a buyer to just eat the cost meanwhile its operational because we still run the parking lot behind it and 4 stores are hooked to the same infrastructure and would have to close down if we were to demolish the school

>>149923319
To be fair, Caine already glitches put of his ass every day anyways
At this point is very clear Zooble is trying to distance herself from Caine and just keeps the sarcastic remarks to make him to back down. Despite that he just keeps looking for her because he wants to prove a point yet continues to fail but it's too deep in his issues to accept that

Maybe after the award event and his little whatever the hell kind of glitch was that (storyboard implies abstraction but we don't know how possible that can be rn), he will start distancing from everyone else as he starts to fall off the deep end.

>>149923450
I really don't want him to abstract. I hope they stop it with a hug that he can't break out of forcing him to fully confront his feelings.

>Caine, nobody cares about your stupid no sex rule.
>Ragatha’s been flirting with every female NPC since I got here—
>Gangle’s been kissing her figurines every night—
>Jax is a desperate incel—
>Kinger’s insane—
>And Pomni… she’s been searching for cock every single day

>>149923399
>An abandoned building, the kind that is better for urban exploration
there are videos of urban exlorers getting into buildings with both power and running water and the water pipes usually get fucked up resulting in flooding

>>149923319
Zooble doesn't seem to want to piss him off or even hate him, it's just that being a bit mean is a decent deter even if it backfires constantly. Caine should not be taking the comments to heart if he is an AI in the first place but he does and that's his issue and Zooble is not responsible for his inner conflicts

what is the current theory for why kinger becomes sane when in darkness

>>149923523
He literally told why in ep 3 bro

>>149922912
When i saw this scene for the first time, my immediate understanding was that she was sucked into the computer Tron style and I haven't changed. Sorry I don't i follow you're Sim theory.

Zooble wasn’t trying to break Caine, she’s just a slut

This is the least consequential argument ever but maybe Pomni(irl) snuck inside the C&A offices just as the offices were being emptied out, hence why there would be running water and electricity. I've been to half-dead shopping malls where I could have absolutely done that.

>>149923494
>well I care about it
>it is MY circus and I decide what kind of content is allowed
>Now get into the Psychological Torment Nexus adventure or so help me

Maybe I missed something, but is the red mannequin a random NPC or the one who has a room in the circus? If so, how come literally no one acknowledges that mannequin is absent from all adventures yet has not abstracted yet?

Who is he?

>>149923568
iirc there's more than one of those in the hall and those doors with mannequin portraits are just default unclaimed rooms but if that's the case does it mean the circus has a player limit? What would happen once every room is "taken"? Would the world generate more rooms for more players in the future, supposing the game is still running at that point?

>>149923568
I think the mannequin sign is just a placeholder sign to indicate that it’s an empty space where a bedroom will go, but the room has never been assigned to anyone yet. When a new player arrives, the sign will be replaced with a picture of their avatar.

>>149923585
Isn't that the plot of Umineko?

>>149923512
>Ragatha trying to flirt with a younger man like Jax

>>149923627
>>149923620
Then what was the whole deal with the spying mannequin at the end of EP5? IIRC, NPC's are not allowed inside the circus unless Caine spawned them to do a task.

>>149923412
If you think that, i'm sorry but you're a Stevenfag moron.

>>149923451
its like someone trying to work on a computer, breaking it, and not realizing that it was due to them doing something stupid (downloading viruses thinking they are helpful programs, for example)

zooble kept telling caine "forget it" and getting mad when he would follow her command to the letter. she has no idea how to talk to a computer program.

>>149923629
Get this cougar away from that sensitive young man.

God forbid a whiteboy catch a vibe.

>>149922344
So you're the Fag in this Comments still believing Jax have a Good Side.

https://youtube.com/shorts/ejukR6XuchY?si=AzAEa-_RcMojIvIx

I appreciate how Kinger has Trigger Discipline.

Zooble’s been searching for body parts, never feeling complete, but in the end all she needed was a cock or a pussy.

>>149923663
>NPC's are not allowed inside the circus unless Caine spawned them to do a task.
I think that's something that is being set up, that Caine just forgets to despawn his own npcs and has had them running around without his knowledge. Maybe these rogue NPCs are planning on how to take him down or something

>muh thousands of all seeing eyes
He is so focused on not falling apart and prove to Zooble how much of a great artist he is that he isn't really paying attention to anything else

>>149923629
>"you're handsome"
>"I'm really flattered, ma'am, and you are pretty, bbbut i just got here and I don't..."
>forces her chest into his face
>"I said you're handsome..."

Loser corner later
>I failed jax

>>149922702
Perhaps? He doesn't have the same "I must be the most important character ever" vibe, he is a bit more passive in his role.
Come back to me when he makes someone kill themselves.

>>149919525
>its a major subversion like Heluva Boss where the main characters are demons from Hell.
I fucking WISH Helluva Hotel had these kinda characters you're describing. they're laughably pathetically good even for a show where it's supposed denizens of hell trying to be better and no one has any teeth it's why both shows feel stakeless and suck balls

Back to TADC, good post, but entertainment wise it would be quite boring if every adventure they all killed or tied up Jax and then continued. they did in the Ghost house to be fair so it is possable

Jax has never and will never get pussy in his life. Pomni was his last chance and he blew it.

>>149923244
>Both are very different.
Says who? Abstracting is clearly based on your mental state, as seen by kaufmos room in the first episode.

>>149923620
The whole circus has been busted since episode 1, maybe longer. Maybe always. Running out of rooms is probably the least of their worries.

Of course the clear running theory is that things get progressively more fucked as Caine sinks deeper into madness because he can’t fill his intended objective. And that’s definitely something going on. But also, thinking about the question of whether the game has limits, and thinking about >>149921938, I’m realizing that: Caine has maybe been making whole new adventures every single day, and apparently he saves the assets from all of them for future use. Sometimes he reuses old NPCs, but he’s still regularly making new ones like Ming. I wonder if that load is taking a toll on anything.

>>149923848
He implied he was doing “important things” before he got circused. Maybe important things is your mom.

>>149923848
but Jax is gay. He was pounding that green ribbit ass daily.

>>149923881
Maybe that's why Ming and disappearing guy are just mannequins like the rest of the filler NPCs

>>149923933
Even worse for him, nothing but horny women and crazy men.

>>149923935
No theyre not. One has a hat and the other has derpy eyes.

>>149923538
>my immediate understanding was that she was sucked into the computer Tron style
that would imply there's a way to unsuck yourself like in tron and go against a core theme of the show

>>149923837
Speaking of Hazbin Hotel, I don't think they'll top Digital Circus in terms of writing/characterization. They share similar vibes but I'm enjoying this series way more. Hazbin feels raunchy by comparison.

>>149922954
So Caine doesn't like Uzi doorman?

>>149923808
>The reason jax doesn’t want to connect to anyone is because he keeps getting molested.
>Got close to Ragatha and got molested.
>Got close to zooble got molested.
>and so on until he met ribbit they didn’t molest him.
>Others in the circus pushed ribbit to abstract and now he just keeps up a facade so no one else gets close to him.
>He’s unsure if pomni is playing the long game or another ribbit.

IMO, I think the overall plot has changed completely since episode 1, especially after how successful it became. And why would Kaufmo still obsess over an exit when all the other characters have long stopped caring? It's never even mentioned again.

>>149923881
>I wonder if that load is taking a toll on anything.
The scene where he is looking at the office photos and how he makes himself comfortable in office like spaces make me think that for being an AI, he is a very nostalgic kind of guy. Maybe he just misses how everything was simpler on the early days and how he was praised and promoted a lot as being very advanced AI and whatnot before the company went under and the game was abandoned.

He holds unto his projects and as you said reutilizes them plenty of times maybe in hopes that this time it will be the piece that makes his art be appreciated but it's just holding him down the longer he keeps dragging his baggage and digging his heels while refusing to improve on actual feedback from players and not developer/marketer praise.

Pomnithe EVIL

I really want to believe that Kinger is in more control than he let's on and the butterfly thing was an example of something only he can do. I've seen people claiming ragatha blocking jax's gun was an example of her doing what kinger did, but I think it was just her accidentally activating a circus joke.
Maybe kinger's alone time in his fort is him trying to work on the circus where Caine can't see him. Also, what did he mean when he said he failed others? He wasnt just talking about his wife.
And since I'm on about things other than jax, what about what gangle and zooble were talking about? Why did only those 2 get avatar gimmicks? What does gangle mean when she says she has a part that makes her worse than everyone else? What does zooble hate about herself?

>>149924097
Highlight the text you want to spoil and hit ctrl + s

>>149924124
>And since I'm on about things other than jax, what about what gangle and zooble were talking about? Why did only those 2 get avatar gimmicks?
I assume either it's foreshadowing the other avatars having gimmicks or it's a metaphor for how sometimes shit just happens you into life, like body dysmorphia or whatever Gangle's got going on, and it sucks but it's part of you.

>>149924043
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HzCSNITAXS4&pp=ygUpdGhpcyBpcyB3aHkgeW91IGtlZXAgZ2V0dGluZyBhbWVyaWNhbiBkYWQ%3D

>>149923494
>>And Pomni… she’s been searching for cock every single day
the search for penis takes you to strange places doesn't it

>>149924044
Kaufmo was like Pomni, ironically given a clown body when they're the ones who wanted to get out of the circus the most.
It doesn't really matter, and it probably won't be elaborated upon. Kaufmo is really just there to show the audience the effects of abstraction.

>>149924124
I think that specific adventure just gave them all cartoon powers for whatever reason. Pomini was also able to shoot Zooble like 4x times in a row with a single bullet.

>>149923961
>that would imply there's a way to unsuck yourself like in tron
Yes, however the pilot also set up the mystery about the place and subtly told us that Caine and the program are busted. Why they can't escape is easily explained by that.

>>149924044
>And why would Kaufmo still obsess over an exit when all the other characters have long stopped caring? It's never even mentioned again.
Imagine you start seeing an exit door in different parts of the circus, but it never lasts long enough for anyone else to notice.
Basically, that's what happened to Kaufman. Everyone thought he'd gone crazy.

>>149924165
She just wants her holes filled and nobody sticks around long enough to do it

>>149924073
Caine is not an AI you fool you've been bamboozled

>>149924073
I think he likes looking at pictures of a computer because he thinks that’s his mommy.

pomini is cute and aggressive. she would be totally down for anal

>>149924259
Pomni could be easily coaxed into anal, but she wouldn’t ask for it first.

>>149924124
I mean if I helped build a godawful plave like that full of that much suffering, I’d feel like a failure too.

>>149924245
>caine and kinger have the same amount of power over the circus
>kinger just forgor
>caine is a double headfuck bigger than kinger and his mechanical behavior is just him being stroked-out

>>149924044
it was the randomly appearing/disappearing exit door that made kaufmo lose it. Everyone still wants to leave, they just know its not possible, theres no way out or hope of escape. Jax puts on the "I might as well have fun while I'm here" mask, but its obvious he really really hates being in the circus and is genuinely afraid of abstracting himself. His whole attitude is a coping mechanism. If you gave him a button that would delete the circus himself and everyone in it I think he'd press it without hesitation.

>>149924073
>>149924258
>he remembers when he was an itty bitty command line and wishes he could be back to that
aww

>>149924245
he is too autistic to be human otherwise

If Caine turned out to have been a human person all along, I think all of the characters would feel really bad for being so mean to him and treating him like he’s not real.

>>149924402
There's no way Caine is a human. He has no understanding of how humans work and makes up nonsensical things.

>>149924423
Sounds like a lot of the guts around here.

>>149924245
Those sports he created should've made it plainly obvious. It was like asking ChatGPT to generate new sports.

>>149924211
>Why they can't escape is easily explained by that.
again, goes against a core theme of the show. thinking that the end goal is escape and that there are clues or objectives the cast have to look for in order to get out takes focus away from the main point; the characters inner turmoil and their struggle with each other.

>>149924402
Would they? He's put them through some stressful shit. I don't feel like they've been unfairly mean to him.
Plus if he really is human, that means he could listen to them more and make their lives a lot better but simply chooses not to.

>>149924455
Oh hey someone who understands the show, nice

>>149924436
orange could easily be an olympic discipline, to be fair

>>149924402>>149924465
>Caine is just the natural end to Jax's retarded cope mechanism
>So enveloped in his designated "role" that he cannot go back to rekindle the humanity lost
>Also stupidly autistic about convoluted storytelling

>>149924455
So, basically, once they come to terms and become better people, the real exit will appear and let them out? You can do that too.
However, we know the damn program is fucked up and caine is going crazy. All this personal drama is about to clash with the sci fi horror stuff. Buckle in.

>>149924568
Maybe the real freedom was the friends we made along the way.

>>149924323
I read it more that the humans have more control over the circus than they realize. The whole episode kind of reinforces that, with pomni being able to pull off impossible trick shots just because she believes she can. Or the tommy gun appearing at the perfect moment for gangle, trapped and out of ammo.

>>149924568
No, you’re missing the point. NO EXIT means NO EXIT. They can make their digital eternity a heaven or a hell by how they treat each other.

>>149924402
Not all of them. Ragatha, Kinger and Gangle would. Pomni would point out that he's one that called himself an AI. Jax and Zooble wouldn't give a shit.

>>149923956
Both have hats.

>>149924258
ain't the game inside the computer tho? does he have some oedipus complex going on too?

>>149924601
But they literally can't, because Caine still controls everything and can make them suffer, even if they were perfectly friendly with themselves and everyone around them.

They still have no freedom and clearly want to get back to the real world, not the limited experience they have at that circus.

>annoying jokester
>chill guy
What was his REAL personality like?
Also, it's good that he got scrapped early on, 1 too many clowns

>>149923565
>Shredding pomni's naked lady mags
Devious, it took Gangle forever to draw those

Pomni comforting ragatha after jaxs abstracts

>>149924646
Did you just not notice the newly introduced plot point that the characters in the Circus are starting to make up their own rules?

>>149924664
why is ragatha so stacked

>>149924646
Life will always have adversity, and there’s no such thing as total freedom.

>>149924677
And you think they can all become mini Caines and recreate their own reality? That's extremely far fetched. Even if they could, they're still trapped. That's not heaven no matter what they create.

>>149924664
Ragatha waited patiently for her turn with the Jester Pussy

>>149924682
Because that's that way Caine made her

>>149924706
I think you’re gonna be very confused at where the story goes.

>>149918207 (OP)
I already want him to suffer and die.

>>149924682
Ragatha is the designated thicc girl since she has a mommy personality and everyone else has noodle limbs

>>149924720
*The

>>149924646
>clearly want to get back to the real world
do they? the only who kept insisting on it is Pomni, which is a newbie so its fair she still thinks thats a possibility, everyone else has been stuck for so long that they idea of exiting being plausible is more like an ocassional joke and they'd rather make a life as comfortable as it can be in the circus by creating a community with everyone else in spite of the circus' limited experience

>>149924604
I actually think Zooble would feel the worst. She’s had some of the most interaction with Caine and has caused him the most frustration. If she found out that he was a retarded crazy guy with real feelings and not a soulless broken machine, I think she’d apologize for never giving any of his ideas a chance. Zooble doesnt like putting up with bullshit, but she has basic empathy.

>>149923311
The show is popular, but your average working adult isn't going to bring it up at a job unless they're sure the other person is a fan. I was able to find someone to talk about it with at my last job, but it took us an hour of lightly probing questions and dancing around the topic before we were both able to admit that we liked it.

>>149924648
Jax thinks of himself as the funny one, but we know Kaufmo still told jokes. So I’m guessing Kaufmo had a different brand of humor from Jax. Jax likes pulling pranks, maybe Kaufmo told lame dad jokes or stupid puns. Maybe he was like, the pathetic virgin Pierrot to Jax’s chad Harlequin.

Really liked the PEAK stream. Made me wish Zooble, Ragatha and Pomni interacted more. Or that Pomni and Zooble would interact at all.

And Caine too, I guess.

>>149924126
Ill do better next time :)

>>149924842
He didn't care of Kaufmo, only Ribbit

>>149924834
Zooble clearly has body dysphoria. I think Pomni will help her pretty soon.

>>149924806
>>149924842
would be fucked up if it turns out he has been pushing any budding funny guys into abstraction to keep the archetype for his own tho

>>149924747
>an hour of lightly probing questions and dancing around the topic before we were both able to admit that we liked it.
man the 2020s are grim if this is how we have to find other people with a common interest

>>149924465
>that means he could listen to them more and make their lives a lot better but simply chooses not to.
There's enough limiting his autonomy that they should be aware that he's not operating at full capacity.
They should also be aware that he can make their lives a LOT worse, and Zooble has gone as far as warning Jax not to fuck with them.
Including Pomni, all three of them screwed the pooch by not asking about Daisy Bell. That failure to follow up is going to bite them hard in the ass.
Kinger would probably freak out if he realized that Caine was doing that.

>>149924897
that would be ridiculously shallow. he invented archetypes to justify what he does to stay sane

>>149924889
No, caine will punish Zooble first.

The smaller his pupils are, the more genuine he's being

>>149924917
If Caine really wanted to be evil, he could grant Zoobles wishes of not wanting to go on adventures by just trapping her in an alternate circus that has no other humans, NPC's, or anything. She'd eventually go insane from having no external stimuli.

>>149923129
>>149923110

Remember.
>>149918212

>>149924402
The fact that Caine was singing Daisy Bell is a pretty solid indication that he's AI through and through.
If Hal 9000 is anything to go by, that's probably the first thing he learned how to do after he was born.

>>149924954
You people read the Goddamn comments?

>>149918619

>>149924834
Zooble is unironically the most stable and well adjusted member of the cast so she need to use the emotional support Pomni. Even her biggest issue with the body dysmorphia is something she's willing to be open and honest about, unlike the rest who keep those problems lucked up tight and buried. It probably has something to do with her being the newest besides Pomni.

>>149924973
Please don't remind me I know I'm not strong enough

>>149924996
Jax and Pomni sing it too and theyre not AI.

>>149925016
they did it to mock her. that's not the same, are you serious?

This show frustrates me, and I'm not exactly sure why.
There's a lot I like with the fun animation and silly gags, and I even feel an emotional investment with the characters to some degree. But every time they do character drama it just feels clunky. Like they abruptly stop and have a couple characters sit down to have a little psychiatry session and spout some platitudes at each other about life. Maybe that's part of the joke, but it feels more that the show wants you to take those moments sincerely. There's got to have been a better way to do it, even with the condensed runtime.

>>149924907
Nobody wants to take the risk of being permanently labeled as the weirdo who loves watching strange internet cartoons, that's the kind of shit that can unironically tank your career.

>>149925016
Jax and Pomni sing it because they're mocking Caine.
Daisy Bell has special significance in computers dating back to the 1960s that neither of them are aware of.

>>149924664
GYAAAATTT
Wew, That was cringe, but also very necessary.
God I love that cotton and fabric tushie.

>>149925046
>Like they abruptly stop and have a couple characters sit down to have a little psychiatry session and spout some platitudes at each other about life
With there being no stakes other than the ones they create that makes sense when you think about it. Like yeah why not talk about it now, it's not like they have anywhere else they need to be.

>>149924402
if anything they would be even harder on him

>>149918795
Because he'll constantly torment you like throwing you in a deep fryer or destroy your reputation by disclosing your deepest darkest secrets. And no one has the requisite sadism or endurance to credibly threaten to beat him at his own game to punish him for his actions.

>>149925029
Personally, I do want Caine to be an AI, and I believe he is one.

But I also like playing devil’s advocate and playing around with the possibility of alternate theories and if they could work. And, I think if it turned out that Caine is a human, he’d also have to have believed he was an AI, but actually he was just confused. Sorta like how Jax has been actively trying to delude himself into believing that he and the others are cartoon characters. But human!Caine would be even more deluded, just out and out thinks he’s always been a computer program. So him singing Daisy Bell is just him doing that because he watched 2001 and he thinks that’s what a robot is supposed to do.

>>149925067
If they know the full lyrics to the song they are definitely aware of the significance of it.

>>149925143
I knew the full lyrics as a kid and I didn't learn about the computer thing until I was an adult. The song itself is like 100 years old.

>>149925143
>they are definitely aware of the significance of it.
No, they aren't.
Daisy Bell has been a well known song for over a century. It's relation to computers and AI ties back to 1968 when it became the first full length vocal synthesized song.
https://youtu.be/41U78QP8nBk?si=5Jk3GdDOSOC1X9yK
Kinger is likely aware of this, but Jax and Pomni just think it's a song about a low budget proposal.

>>149925199
>1968
*61

>>149920260
Zooble also seemed to enjoy the adventure. And Pomni was having fun until Jax's freakout.
Caine should do more pvp. Ragatha was the only one who was miserable most of the time and that could be remedied by allowing her to take a support role.

why did i see my dad watching this shit on the living room tv

>>149925084
Whether or not it makes sense, I feel like it's a bit too much telling and not showing, you know? The moment at the end of last episode where Pomni walked off with Jax I felt was more effective because you could instantly tell what Ragatha was feeling without her having to directly explain it to the audience

>>149925237
an affinity for this show is genetic
he likes it
you like it
your son will like it

>>149925237
It’s on Netflix now.

>>149925237
It's on netflix

>>149923222
No one could ever convince me that Ribbun isn't the best.

>>149924885
Hot take: jax didn't actually care about ribbit either, he cares about being blamed for her abstraction, as evidence i present when ragatha told him getting close to pomni would not work and when pomni said "have you ever thought that's what gets people abstracted" he got upset and thought pomni was blaming him, even said oh so you're going to blame me like everyone else or something like that when what pomni actually meant was that trying to disassociate like jax tries is what gets people abstracted, the loss of their humanity for dramatic effect.

>>149925281
>>149925282
i dont think that's the point..

>>149925237
Jester pussy too powerful.

>>149925237
Because he is based enough to enjoy what he likes whenever he likes without pretend unlike you.

>>149925237
>>149925328
Does he usually watch cartoons? Or just live-action media like a normal person?
It's a weirdly popular show, it doesn't have to mean anything, maybe he just saw the designs and got curious.
Alternatively, how old is he? Maybe he's going through one of them mid-life crises.

>>149925328
>>149925365
no it is the point, he will watch anything that pops up on his fucking firestick, i saw him watching the pilot for hazbin hotel and had to just walk out the front door and not be there.

>>149925365
>lternatively, how old is he?
65

>>149925408
I think it's good you have a boomer dad that has an open mind and isn't stuck rewatching the same shows from 50 years ago. You should be grateful.

>>149925365
>>149925435
Yeah gotta agree. My Dad does literally nothing but watch Fox News

>>149925237
Because it's very well animated, has interesting characters and has funny, mature humor, son. You can just enjoy things for what they are without being a ship-obsessed troonoid gooner freak, you know? You should try it sometimes.

>>149925365
>a man can't watch half an hour of a cartoon show, which comes out every 3 months without being in a mid-life-crisis, because mature dads do not have hobbies or free time ever

>>149925408
It's because you jerked off to the characters, right?

>>149924124
You are overthinking things. It would suck, if these characters actually had secret "lore powers". It's a cartoon. If they actually embraced being cartoons, instead of angsty h*manoids trapped in a cartoon dimension, then they could do more stuff like this.

>>149925408
>>149925420

>The boomer’s aura kills the zoomer.

>>149925448
Same. News + Football and The Andy Griffith Show, everyday.

>>149925408
>>149925420
Don't worry about it, he probably just turns on the bright lights and flashing colors to keep from flashing back to the war or something.

>>149925435
>and isn't stuck rewatching the same shows from 50 years ago
yeah but thats who i am

>>149918207 (OP)
>everyone gets out of the circus
>except jax
>jax is begging and pounding at the screen to be put out of his misery

>>149925323
>jax didn't actually care about ribbit either, he cares about being blamed for her abstraction,
Nah, he definitely cared about Ribbit.
He's demonstrating some really hard disassociation that goes beyond just getting falsely blamed, he outright panicked when he realized Pomni was getting genuinely attached to him.

>>149925452
its really weird to see him change because I imprinted on his intolerance and xenophobia so basically we have completely switched roles.

>>149925450
I said it could just be nothing man, it's just out of the ordinary, normal men in their 60s don't usually keep up with animated shows, but those that do are pretty based.

>>149925502
He won't be screaming when he finally twists into a monster.

>>149925450
>It's because you jerked off to the characters, right?
everything glitch has put out is off limits for r34 material.

>>149925536
not just animated shows by anything new really. the older you get, the more you tend to cling to nostalgia and the same old thing

>>149923244
Why not both? It's pretty clear that Jax's entire retarded worldview and persona are coping mechanisms to keep him from abstracting. And everyone has been unintentionally eroding his ability to believe in them with Pomni finally shattering them. So it's safe to say he is at a heightened risk of abstracting. And since Jax seems to be quite aware of his own fragile mental state, the realization that he is failing to keep it together would be quite panic inducing.

>>149925543
No, mostly roaring

>EP1 "and constantly chasing an unattainable goal will start driving you a bit crazy..." "and eventually you get to asking what the point of anything is and why you're even alive..." "and when you reach your breaking point something really terrible can happen"
>caine is trying to prove that he can make fun adventures, while not understanding what people like and completely ignoring player feedback. effectively unattainable
>caine nearly had a breakdown on the questioning step during one episode (forgor which)
>we know that the "something really terrible" is abstraction
>EP3 "the worst thing you can do in this world is make someone think they arent wanted or loved"
>caine's whole plotline is it getting beaten into his head that he's unwanted, unneeded, and unloved
>EP6 "you dont even know what people are like before they abstract! they are NOT pleasant to be around. like, at all!"
>he's been getting worse personality wise. whiplashing between extremes of his usual show-host self, trying to prove that he's good at his job, and complete apathy.
caine is the one thats going to abstract and the gang will need to factory reset his program before it drags down the whole circus.

>>149925237
My dad watches a lot of animated movies.

>>149925780
Based

>>149925666
ahh we saw the same tumblr post i assume
i dont think the goal will be to factory reset him, seems to obvious of a solution but it deletes his whole self as a character we have seen grow and struggle the same as the humans, as if he didnt matter. Maybe the cast can poder it as a first idea in order to un-abstract him but it doesnt work and they have to fix him in another way.

Would be interesting to see them reaching out to him in a human manner, not treat him like a machine that needs to be reset or coded into fixing itself but allow him to feel his emotions and grow from them, because he does feel even in his misguided and ominous AI way.

>>149926155
>spoiler
i only use tumblr for fat fetish porn.
i'd never touch tumblr fandom stuff with a ten foot pole.

>>149918207 (OP)
I am extremely retarded, did he really mean it when he said
>I'd move on, and probably forget about you

>>149926186
No.

>>149926186
Jax is the crying wojak with the smug mask

>>149926172
didnt need to know that but good for you anon, must be difficult w/the site's tagging system and nsfw regulations

>>149918721
Got to love hot the person who made this forgot Zooble existed. You know, unless she's the one who isn't a real person.

>>149926186
Magical thinking. It's what he would like to be true because he's a coward who can't face his actual feelings.

>>149926186
>did he really mean it when he said
He hesitated about half a second too long, which means he was intentionally trying to phrase whatever he said to hurt Pomni as much as possible.
Followed by getting hostile and violent at random objects and then avoiding her. Which if he actually liked hurting her, that's unusual.

>>149926242
this

>>149920127
>>149921555
This isn't saying that he's got it wrong, it's saying that he is pretending that they have less depth than they really do. He says they are just archetypes and can't break out of it, and yet they all broke out of it in that episode.

>>149926308
>Followed by getting hostile and violent at random objects

He was mad about being censored, that entire mechanism is a constant reminder that he's essentially a slave

>>149918721
>no zooble
What did they mean by this?

>>149920127
Ragatha is Hilarious
Gangle is Cringe
Kinger is Gigachad
Zooble is Chill
Jax is Delusional

Ribbit was the funny one.

>>149926333
Okay but then why would he avoid her instead of doing what he does to Gangle and intentionally smothering her?

>>149921291
>that he acts like an ass because he's so emotionally damaged that he's dissasociting with reality and trying to make everyone hate
Jesus
when you put it like that i see lot of myself in him and i fucking hate it

>>149926272
Zooble was there posing lewdly in the cube with Jax and Pomni later in the intermission tho, Caine just didnt know what to do with Zooble in the cake/ball/chess part so he just didnt do anything kek

>>149918207 (OP)
when the nihilism kicks in and the abyss stares back into you

>>149926477
Kek

>>149925237
What episode it was?

>>149918207 (OP)
That seems like the regular way to escalate it, but it would be interesting if his descent to madness mainly hurts himself.
He only succeeds because nobody wants to put a fight against him out of fear, disinterest or annoyance, but the past two episodes have shown that he's extremely easy to get under his skin with the maid and Pomni stuff. He can be easily broken if the other members teamed up to do it, but they're genuinely good people, so they won't. So I don't see what he could do anymore, especially if Zooble's help makes Gangle stand up to him.

>>149926494
>>149926477
And people still thinking he's not actually evil.

>>149926186
He almost abstracted minutes after saying that, just by thinking about what he said. Just by THINKING about his guilt, he almost lost it. What do you think would happen if Pomni did abstract? The circus would have two empty rooms that day.

>>149926540
He's desperately trying to be, but deep down he's not. And it's the "he's not" that's causing him to abstract.

>>149926568
Even so, I feel that something perverse must have been born in him to do without remorse everything he already did to the other members of the circus for years.

>>149921809

>>149926494
He's in so much denial, and chuds STILL insist on identifying with this loser....
I do think he can be funny, and his struggle is understandable, but he's kind of a foreveralone.

>33m views in a weekend
havent seen numbers like these since ep2 wow

>>149926540
>>149926568
He's not even trying to be evil. He explains it clearly. He's trying to strictly larp as an archetype so the complexity of being an actual person doesn't make him go crazy and abstract. But he fails at that because of Pomni and almost abstracts at the end of the episode.

>>149926637
to be fair, they have guns.

>>149926540
>emotionally distraught character is clearly shown expressing a face like that of a drug addict moments away from escaping their misery, before their pupils dilate massively and personality becomes a husk
>clearly this is an evil doer

>>149926667
An evil doer who knows, but certainly a faggot,
>>149926666

>>149921777
What if its like Peppermint Candy and the last episode is the flashback that explains how things were at the beginning?

>>149926667
If he was really evil he would have let pomni think he didn't care if she abstracted instead of walking it back after seeing how badly she handled it.

>>149926540
>people are strictly heroic or villainous
Missed the whole point of his archetypes cope.

>>149926477
>>149926494
>When you type up an entire paragraph in response to a post, but before posting, you realize it was just rage bait the whole time designed to get (you)s so you decide to not reply instead

>>149926747
kek

>>149926540
If he was evil he wouldn't have to fight to consciously force this persona on himself.

>>149925780
Good for you anon, my family won't watch anything animated.

You cannot save him.

>>149926186
He's lying both to Pomni and himself, he secretly longs for friends.

>>149926762

Eh, idk. That's basically the thing that distinguishes sociopaths from psychopaths— the latter don't have a conscience, but the former do, they just push it down and silence it and keep busy all the time so they don't have to face the guilt they feel for the things they're doing that they know are wrong

>>149926494
Man, I fucking love when he does this.

>>149926762
Consciously doing evil shit to escape from your own feelings IS evil.

If Clark wasn't such a bitch he would easily have a gf by now

>>149926186
He’d move on and basically forget, but it would sting a little.

>>149926762
The only one who he really cared, if it were the others, he would surely kick their asses.

>>149924044
It might be an end-stage sort of thing. Like people only start obsessing over the exit right before they're about to abstract.

>>149926186
not in the slightest, when he saw that pomni was genuinely hurt he walked back on it, only in the most dickish way possible.
his problem is sunk cost.
he's too deep in his maladjusted archetype cope that he cant just walk back on it all and say what he truly thinks.

>>149926667
Jax is a villain, but a tragic and sympathetic one. The things he does are abusive and evil. However, he does them only as a cope because he can't face the situation he's in nor his feelings about it and tries to convince himself that he's evil, has no feelings and so on. He's still a villain, but a tragic one and its easy to feel sympathy because we do not know what we'd do if we were in a hell/purgatory realm like that out of fucking nowhere.

>>149920276
When her happy mask was shot and broken, underneath her sad mask was still smiling.

>she didn't even get a shot on them
Maybe Gangle didn't even really want any of the shots to connect, kinda like Pomni was at the start hesitant to shoot her friends at the start. Gangle just wanted to shoot and laugh like a maniac, and she did precisely that.

>>149926667
The problem is that regardless of the circumstances, he's forced himself into a loop that he can't be pulled out of.
He's kind of like Caine in that regard, he just resets and decays a little further each time. And you've either got to abandon him or he drags you down with him

You know in retrospect, the whole cast was pretty blase about Kaufmo abstracting, imagine if Jax really did abstract and the cast's reaction was a resounding "dang, that sucks"

>>149926976
I didn't think Goose is upset that people relate to Jax or sympathize with him. If anything, he totally anticipated it and simps for him too.

>>149926992
>that pic
>zooble literally dealt caine a massive amount of psychic damage

>>149926992
Most of the mourning must've been offscreen. We don't actually know how long its been since Pomni joining or inbetween each episode.

>>149926992
I think it was because Kaufmo wasn't around that long. I'm pretty sure he was probably only around a few days before abstracting.

I also find it weird how none of them mention Ribbit at all. I 100% believe he did not exist until EP 5.

>>149926992
They literally did a funeral and all said things about him, we just didn't get to hear them.
I think jax abstracting would make them sad but also a little relieved.

>>149927029
I think they just don't want to think of abstraction or abstracted characters because it'd remind them of their own abstractability in a memento abstracti kind of shit.
>>149927000
I don't think she anticipated it, I personally was surprised as fuck when everyone loved Jax because I hated that little shit from the very first episode.

>>149927029
there were a shit load of abstracted characters. after all they just dont bring them up anymore

>>149926992
No they weren't, go back and watch the funeral again.

>>149927056
I find it so fucking sad that these give such a solid idea of what those characters were like and we'll just never get to meet them.

>>149927047
>I don't think she anticipated it,
Check her twitter.
Jax is her favorite one to shit post about.

>>149927079
Fuck, I feel like I'm missing half the show just from not using twitter.

>>149926337
Zooble remains without abstracting

>>149927029
>I'm pretty sure he was probably only around a few days before abstracting.
Where'd you get that idea from?

>>149927026
In episode 3 Ragatha says it's been a rough couple of days, and 4's adventure was the one after 3's, so at least the first few episodes are in fairly quick chronological succession

>>149926992
me when sex havers

Will we ever get to see a new member join? would be kind of nice to see Pomni no longer in the role of newest kid on the block

>>149927171
If they do add a new member I feel like pomni would take the 'mentor' role only to fail and have the new character abstract. It would be an easy way to have an actual abstraction without having to kill off your main cast.

>>149927171
Not in three episodes but I can see there being a stinger where a new character shows up, it'd fit Goose's style to tease us like that.

Seeing how everyone seems to be able to tap into circus toonforce in their own way if they don't think about it too hard, would anyone be able of putting Caine down significantly in case he went fully rogue and hostile towards them? Jax seems to have more experience fucking around with it but he never really thinks of pulling anything on Caine perhaps out of fear of getting chewed out, Kinger is too kind to but might play with it if it means getting everyone out of danger. Zooble and Pomni, might not hate him as much as was first shown, but I do see them take advantage of the opportunity to get back at him under the guise helping him. Gangle and Ragatha would absolutely not want to get involved probably

>>149927096
To be fair, Goose's twitter is pretty great

>>149926643
How can they keep trying to get anything good out of him?
>>149921809

>>149927191
What makes you think there won't be a second season? This show is way too popular to end in 3 episodes.

>>149927217
Goose said there's only going to be one season

>>149926992
me when already nut but she keeps sucking

>>149927217
the author of demon slayer had it in her to end it where she wanted it to end in spite of the show's gigantic popularity, some people just cant be bribed into going the zombie simspons route

>>149927206
>It's not age appropriate
>but it's a cartoon LOL
deserved.

>>149926613
gringo here is "pos nomas" kinda like "porque si"?

>>149927076
Don't worry, pomni will save the day, everyone will unabstract and go on happy wild stories together

>>149923039
>BLAAAAAAAGH
I giggled like a retard at that scene for like 10 minutes straight not gonna lie

>>149927171
The ending will be a new character popping up in the circus, and Ringmaster Pomni and giving them a gentle introduction to this clown show. Apprentice becomes the master kind of thing

Of course this requires Jax, Caine and Bubble to be gone

>>149927250
"pos nomas" is basically saying "just cuz"
it's teenager slang

>>149927250
Bean here, yes.
It's a more colloquial use, like when you say in English "cuz" instead of because.

I don't know if anyone said this yet and not to be a Jax apologist but he did mention in that fight with Pomni that everyone blamed him for Kaufmo's or Ribbit's abstraction.

We don't know too much but if you're made a pariah to some bullshit that you might have been tangentially responsible for, it would explain why he's such an antagonist, bullying ass.

It may have been his fault totally, but I doubt it since the timelines don't seem to match up. It could be he's being blamed for just Ribbit's abstraction by the others as well; maybe some form of revenge for his antics. It would explain why he didn't get to know other people cause he believes that no one cares for him (Ragatha said she tried) but I don't know just throwing more theories out there.

>Abstracting is a metaphor for suicide
so deep

>>149927056
A fucking oyster? No wonder these jobbers abstracted, lol
Half of these wouldn't even get 100 posts on r34

>>149926992
>imagine if Jax really did abstract and the cast's reaction was a resounding "dang, that sucks"
I would laugh so hard if that happened, specially the mental image of him doing his joker-tier monologue about how he wins at life just gets cut short as the abstraction takes place, but I bet he would stil get a funeral and nice words even if he would have hated it

>everyone asks Pomni what was the last thing they talked about
>Pomni doesnt want to bring up his weird schizo rant so she lies and tells them he simply cracked down like an egg

>>149926734
Jax is Worse than an Archetype, he's hollow.

>>149927241
>>149927228
that's a shame. they managed to capture lightning in a bottle, and it'll probably be a long time before anything compares.

Part 2.

>>149927336

>>149927292
abstraction is a metaphor for suicide the same way fusion (SU) is a metaphor for sex. It's not that you dum dum

>>149927372
>comes about due intense despair and/or mental breakdown.
>it's irreversible
>they can no longer interact with abstracted characters
if the shoe fit...

>>149926992
>imagine if Jax really did abstract and the cast's reaction was a resounding "dang, that sucks"
Ironically, I think that Gangle would end up being the most upset about Jax passing.
For as completely fucked up as it is, she wouldn't know how to deal with with that void.

>>149927372
It was a metaphor of Sex...?

>>149927404
I mean she likely got sucked into the cycle of abuse. When people have those sort of relationships its like being addicted to a person, love them or hate them. However I think Ragatha would be more hurt, she'd feel like its her fault.

>>149926885
I think this is just a matter of how we're defining evil. He's obviously a terrible person who causes great suffering to others. So if that's how we're defining it, yes he is evil. But he's not a complete monster that actually takes joy from the suffering he inflicts. So if we're defining it that way, he wouldn't be evil.

>>149927746
Two thing can be evil at the same time.

>>149927296
Pomni wouldn't be at the funeral because she would be in the process of abstracting herself

>>149927291
We're going to need to learn more about what Abstraction means. If it's just a mental breakdown then most of these people should be gone long ago. If there's a specific part that plays into it, maybe some form of poking around or interacting with something you shouldn't behind the scenes like when Pomni went into the prop room and saw the NPCs spawners.
Kaufmo was looking for an exit, maybe Jax and Ribbit were just fucking around when something bad happened. We just need more information

So, Kinger is made of wood, Ragatha is of fluff, Gangle is porcelain.
What are Zoobl, Jax and Pomni made of? Clay? plastic?