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Anonymous No.149964430 >>149972395 >>149972638 >>149973023 >>149975575 >>149978835 >>149983149 >>149996841 >>150033758 >>150050929 >>150078196
Spider-Girl #3
Maka's romp through D-list, barely used 2000s villains continues as this month she tangles with Paper Doll.
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Also I just grabbed this from RCO so sorry for any watermarks.
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Anonymous No.149964561 >>149965749 >>149972973
>Rand
Oh god, I was shitposting but maybe Caroline actually will turn out to be related to Danny.
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Anonymous No.149964585 >>149964618
>>149964472
It's been weird seeing Lady Bullseye appear in multiple issues of more than one ongoing title these past few months.
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Anonymous No.149964618 >>149966496 >>150054168
>>149964585
In this issue alone you have her, Paper Doll, Hijack and Doctor Tramma. I think giving Maka a rogues gallery of discarded 2000s/early 2010s villains was an inspired choice.
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Anonymous No.149964740 >>149964790 >>149974100
>POWER VS. RESPONSIBILITY! Tombstone's acquired a new weapon to maintain control over his criminal empire β€” and he wants Spider-Girl to pilot it! Spider-Girl must decide what kind of superhuman she wants to be β€” and if she can let another hero fall to save herself.

That's all for this issue, see you next month.
Anonymous No.149964761
This is a nice chapter
Anonymous No.149964790 >>149964827 >>150002882
>>149964727
>>149964740
FRAUD WATCH
Anonymous No.149964827 >>149972395
>>149964790
Who's a fraud?
Anonymous No.149964937 >>149964978 >>149965283 >>149965662 >>149966269 >>149978394
I don’t want maka to be transferred to the x-office bros….
Anonymous No.149964978 >>149965662
>>149964937
Should have supported her comic bro
Now she'll be claimed by them and become Wolverine's new sidekick
Anonymous No.149965135
>>149964574
Sideways development in her mental health. She's no longer parasocial with some actor and can now do normal crime.
Anonymous No.149965275 >>149965315
>>149964697
Flat just like how like them
Anonymous No.149965283
>>149964727
Tombstone really gets around this week. >>149964937
You already have two mutants in this story. It is inevitable.
Anonymous No.149965315
>>149965275
Ultra-Flat
Anonymous No.149965476
>>149964574
>black lips
Hot
Anonymous No.149965662
>>149964937
>>149964978
Anonymous No.149965749 >>149972973
>>149964561
I'm ready
Anonymous No.149966269
>>149964937
She’s gonna be gay and depressed and you’ll like it
Anonymous No.149966321 >>149966446
>>149964697
Girl, you almost murdered a child over a handbag, get your shit together.
Anonymous No.149966351 >>149966397 >>149978115
>>149964432
Is it weird we still haven’t gotten a Jim shooter dedication page yet?
Anonymous No.149966397
>>149966351
I assume that'll be in September.
Anonymous No.149966444
>>149964505
Maka and her mom are cute
Anonymous No.149966446
>>149966321
The child escalated it.
Anonymous No.149966469 >>149966481
>>149964493
>C*ckd*cks
why did she say this
Anonymous No.149966481 >>149966528
>>149966469
Trying to sound like a nonsense minor insult.
Anonymous No.149966496 >>149966841
>>149964618
Spiderloli on Dr. Fold yuri
Anonymous No.149966528 >>149966607
>>149966481
Cockdicks/Cuckdicks is not minor.
Anonymous No.149966607
>>149966528
Which is why she didn't say that in favor a nonsense similar thing.
Anonymous No.149966841
>>149966496
Maka is for adult women.
Anonymous No.149967154 >>149967782
I hate the hair thing in the costume, Mayday is 1000000x times better
Anonymous No.149967782 >>149967792
>>149967154
Nah, it's cute.
Anonymous No.149967792 >>149968017
>>149967782
Ngl the pigtails are starting to grow on me
Anonymous No.149968017
>>149967792
Having an artist who draws cute girls helps.
Anonymous No.149968672 >>149968868
>>149964727
Dudes everywhere and I’m sick of him
Anonymous No.149968868 >>149968938
>>149968672
If he isn't in the new Spider-Man movie, then there will be a lot of egg on the comic book side's face.
Anonymous No.149968938 >>149970295 >>150050959
>>149968868
I think it's mostly for a few reasons: Kingpin has long been claimed by Daredevil and is also more of a wider MU thing now so he's not as much of a Spider-Man character. Of the gang leaders, nobody gives a shit about Silvermane and Hammerhead while pepole generally think Tombstone is kind of cool. Also he's black which is important in our diversity era.
Anonymous No.149969423 >>149970309 >>149972955 >>150005775
>>149964520
>>149964551
Is Beba actually autistic?
Anonymous No.149970253 >>149972955 >>150024391
Bumping for anyone still interested
Anonymous No.149970295
>>149968938
The guy that played Tobia Whale could work
Anonymous No.149970309 >>149970393
>>149969423
Every child is autistic nowadays
Anonymous No.149970393
>>149970309
Yeah but there's joke autistic and there's "I'm going to ramble on at length about stupid insignificant facts and trivia that nobody could ever possibly care about and people are too polite to say so so they pretend to listen".

That's legitimately spergy behavior. She's just like me.
Anonymous No.149971142 >>149971205 >>149971284 >>149971329 >>149972409 >>149973100
Any drawing requests I might take some?
Anonymous No.149971205
>>149971142
Paper Doll tearing herself apart
Anonymous No.149971284 >>149971329
Honestly this book is okay. I like how it uses low level early 2000's losers as a built in rouges gallery for Spider-Loli. Seems like the right choice for a character like this.
>>149971142
Maka in the Paper Doll costume.
Anonymous No.149971329 >>149971454 >>149979083
>>149971142
Just something with Caroline.

>>149971284
I think its biggest problem is that it needs a better writer. I think the core of it is fine enough, I like using castoff villains, the supporting cast is fine so far and the art works for the book. But it needs someone who can inject a little more pop into the book and better balance out Maka's real life with her superhero stuff. I enjoy it well enough but it's missing a writer to bring it up from a 3/5 to a 4 or a 5. But I don't really know who would be good for the job.
Anonymous No.149971454 >>149971752 >>149979083
>>149971329
Yeah, it is just sort of there as is.
Ideally they could lean into the girlyness a bit more since it is a mostly female cast with a main cast of little girls. Really lean into that and make things more bright and fun. The panel with Caroline's doodles in the page that you posted is kind of what I am talking about.
Anonymous No.149971752 >>149979083
>>149971454
Yeah, I think the dojo and its students should be her Bugle and its staff. They need to be a bit more prominent and we need to learn a bit more about them and give them more personality. Also is Maka in school or something? It's focused a little too much on her as Spider-Girl and what kind of hero she is versus just establishing her. But then again at least she's actually fighting villains and not having them as punchline annoyances.
Anonymous No.149972395
>>149964827
>>149964430 (OP)
If no caroline I'm not reading
Anonymous No.149972409
>>149971142
Caroline, teaching maka something new
Anonymous No.149972638 >>149972856 >>149972858 >>149976934 >>149990142 >>149990266
>>149964430 (OP)
Finally caught up and paper girl is kind of interesting do like it when they use lesser villians for the kids.

Also again thing about these fights is they have no stakes knowing maka can just insta win. Like paper doll we know she canonlogically can steal/copy powers from even body morphers or just mutations.She did with sauron and ms marvel. So she has literally no limits and lost the paper trail fight purely because she was stupid. How do you have such a broken insta win ability but just not want to use it. Same with lady bullseye who by the way is she half naked? because what is that outfit. But either way maka could have won from the start if she just used her damn copy ability but she was like no I can win without it. But why you used it to win a small fight against caroline but not against a woman who knows where you live. Also that was another thing most heroes lock in when someone knows where their family lay their head but maka was super casual about a person watching her sleep.


Overall not bad but really nothing to write home about either, the art style has grown on me though. But don't care for Beba she's kind of just the friend and not even the best design of the karate girls. I'm also wondering what's the big deal with hijack and dr tramma, they keep emphasizing her experiment and now adding in she's trying to help people. But like what and how, better have good pay off.

Though was good to see maka catch a L, just don't like that it makes no sense. Her villian literally looks her in the eye her literal power, why not just copy her powers and knowledge boom can escape her paper stuff.

>Also this panel made me kek
Anonymous No.149972678 >>149972856
Anonymous No.149972856 >>149972925 >>150005692
>>149972638
>>149972678

Honestly, What the FUCK is this abysmal artstyle. Absolutely rancid. Rancid and vile.
Anonymous No.149972858 >>149972925
>>149972638
>Also this panel made me kek
They have to know what they're doing with the abusive /ll/ stuff.
Anonymous No.149972869
Also I assume the thing with Tramma and Hijack is that Tombstone has some machinery that he wants to use and Hijack's powers will be used for it. But Hijack's not cooperating so they'll just have Maka copy them and do it instead because she's just a dumb kid after all.
Anonymous No.149972925 >>149972998
>>149972856
I hated it at first but I've accepted it, but yeah it's also quite jagged as well. I feel it's not bad but at times it feels they go for more angular style which i know well as a friend of mine has it. But other times they use very curvy warped paneling and poses that feel like the exact opposite so it's a bit jarring.

Also think it makes maka look very anime esque her hair is curlier in spider boy but in this it's much more wild and comes off spikey. Not bad but different.
>>149972858
I immediately joked to myself as I read it "paper doll just rolls her up and takes her home for later "use""

But yeah, it is pretty funny she lost to some d lister and not lady bullseye who last thread confirmed to be is pretty good since she fights people like daredevil and spidey.


/ll/ idea
>Piper finds maka on social and makes her a fan
>Grooming her by day
>Now knowing more about maka and her tricks she gets better at hunting her down or makes it easier for her to "catch" her just to use her information on her to win
>Abusing her by night
>Blindfolds maka with her paper binding, arms pinned behind her back. her superhuman fingers wrapped snug against her throat digging into her suit fabric
>"Heard you can't use your powers if you can't see?"
>Whispers in her ear as she applies her grip on the young girls throat, making sure to press not push
>"Guess you are just any other little brat now huh......maka"
Anonymous No.149972955
>>149970253
What is beba's headband looks like that african kind of pattern, or is it just random
>>149969423
Probably, and another reason not a big fan. Idk she just feels to generic like the typical friend you'd see a million times in these stories

Really makes me appreciate Christina xu from spider boy, never appreciate how much she felt like a genuine friend and fun character. Their was never a moment I disliked her getting page time.
Anonymous No.149972973
>>149964561
Probably the best thing to come from this run and I'd be down for it.
>>149965749
When will best girl be back, 1 chapter already better than mc
Anonymous No.149972998 >>149973086
>>149972925
>But yeah, it is pretty funny she lost to some d lister and not lady bullseye who last thread confirmed to be is pretty good since she fights people like daredevil and spidey.
Maka seems to try and fight fair so far and starts off fights confident and only busts out her mutie powers when she's on the backfoot and worried she'll lose. So she tried fighting Paper Doll normally but didn't get the chance to use her powers because she was winning until Paper Doll disappeared, surprised her and took her out before she could do anything along with Maka being freaked out by her.
Anonymous No.149973023 >>149974490
>>149964430 (OP)
if it's not May Parker, it's not spider girl
Anonymous No.149973086
>>149972998
Really the problem with this is
A. why use your powers in first issue then
B. Why wait, you weren't confident enough to beat caroline but you are to beat a person that just murdered a guy and confirmed had powers.

It just feels like they know she has a insta win skill, and don't want to make it easy. Because why is she suddenly into fair fights especially in life or death serious stuff. She was also trained by bullseye, who taught her how to be effiencent in using her arsenal and making sure to win. As some anons said in the "7issue cancellation" thread she very much feels very different from spider boy maka like she had a whole character arc we never saw.

Ladybullseye was right though, "you have a loving family and happiness" put the costume up kid. but calling it out and not giving her a reason doesn't really help her just makes it more apparent that maka has no arc or big rhyme or reason for anything she does.

>Bailey was a bit of a brat/jaded kid since he was homeless but all of that worked
>homeless
>experimented on
>Mom was dead for all he knew
>Everyone forgot about him
>But he had a psychic power that told him when trouble was gonna happen
All these things were played with and explained his reasoning to want to be a good guy
>Maka on the other hand
>loves to win
>Born with a op power
>Has a loving family
>Doesn't have serious money struggles
>Joins a serial killing villian for the love of the game
>Tries to kill heroes
>Loves to hurt people
>Wants friends????

Her arc and abilities are all over the place
Anonymous No.149973100
>>149971142
Mayday suing maka for copyright infringement or may beating up maka
Anonymous No.149973782
Crazy this is the same girl that was trying to kill and was disfiguring people without any hesitation.
Anonymous No.149974100
>>149964740
Thanks OP
Anonymous No.149974134 >>149975722 >>149976589
>>149964505
>"Maka, where did you found 500 dollars?"
>"Uhhhhhh... on the streets?"
>Maka's mom immediately think she became a prostitute
Anonymous No.149974490 >>149974935
>>149973023
That bitch hasn’t even been born yet and probably never will.
Anonymous No.149974935 >>149975591 >>149975976
>>149974490
At this point neither May and Annie will exist in 616 since the timeline no longer match with their stories, if Peter will have a daughter it will be a new character
Anonymous No.149975575
>>149964430 (OP)
Spider-bump
Anonymous No.149975591
>>149974935
Why doesn’t Marvel have them come back in time and stay in the present like Rachel Summers?
Anonymous No.149975722
>>149974134
>"It's that bailey boy isn't it!"
Anonymous No.149975976
>>149974935
Who says it’ll even be a daughter?
Anonymous No.149976589 >>149976831
>>149974134
>Maka copies the best streetwalker around
Anonymous No.149976831
>>149976589
Wasn't that one of those jokey drawings of her, basically can she copy sex techinques/skills. Honestly wouldn't that make her mentally a slut self bimboification. She reads the mind/copy talents of the local night walker by accident now her brain is filled with nothing but cocks and gooning.
Anonymous No.149976934 >>149977199
>>149972638
With how out there it is and the original is already limited for how long she can be entirely flat, now I wonder if the original plan was having Spider-Girl try and copy her, only for that to backfire and make her more vulnerable. She does get partially compressed and it wears off.
Anonymous No.149977199 >>149977384 >>149978227
>>149976934
Maybe but again problem with maka is we've seen her power is just way to op and versatile

>Maka not only gets physical skills, but mental ones as well
>Not only this but she also gets all a persons thoughts and information as well"so knows your real name address etc"
>But she can also steal powers as well copying ex: stealing hulkette powers and gamma charge, stealing the dinosaur parts of sauron and ms marvels stretching
>Knows how to use them instantly because of the mental theft part.

So really just assume she's secretly retarded and forgots she has powers every fight lol
Anonymous No.149977384 >>149978195
>>149977199
Like I said, Maka seems to only resort to using her power when she thinks she might lose and seems to go into most fights under the belief that she's going to win. Which means that she doesn't actually have as much confidence in her karate skills and/or didn't want to risk embarassing ersel in a real competitio when goig against Caroline.
Anonymous No.149978115
>>149966351
Shooter is dead too? Damn...
Anonymous No.149978195
>>149977384
But she has perma spider powers, guess that means caroline is so goated she's canon spider-boy base tier kek
Anonymous No.149978227 >>149978398
>>149977199
Why can a spider character even do all of this...? A villain being able to copy powers is too much as is, but a hero? Does she have any downsides besides being a retards?
Anonymous No.149978242 >>149978398 >>149978730
>>149964574
So, we are just making a totally new character out of her.
Anonymous No.149978342 >>149978440
>>149964660
I haven't been following, but where did Maka get the webshooters from?

If she copied Bailey's powers those shouldn't be included since he doesn't even have his own set
Anonymous No.149978394 >>149978440
>>149964937
Marvel should have created a new type of "lazy power origin" so they don't have to rely on Inhumans or Mutants, like an omniscient wish-granting god from beyond the stars that grant random individuals their one true wish but as a super power; call them "The Blessed Ones"
Anonymous No.149978398
>>149978227
Yeah I thought they were gonna nerf her as a villian since she was to opp and knew literally 2 heroes secret identites. Assumed she'd go the classic "villian knows the hero identity" route aka brain damage or super power nerf.

But instead they did the even worse decison of making her a hero, so she still has a insanely cracked power but is a good guy too. Aka why many say she feels like a different character and has no real stakes as her power is so uniquely overpower

>Does she have any downsides besides being a retards?
No

Also she's not 100% spider person she's actually a mutie. She just copied bailey's powers and because of his connection to the spider verse being mixed up she basically is permanently connected to him mentally and power wise usually she can only steal powers for a while unknown timelimit
>>149978242
I'm kind of down for it love the preppy trying to be a influencer/needs attention self then the more schizo version more like her original insane stalker loser girl self. Both a alpha annie and a beta becky
Anonymous No.149978440 >>149978524 >>149978634 >>149979028
>>149978342
Guess bullseye can just make them and taught her though doesn't make sense how she gets more seeing as all spider people make that stuff with science not just naturally so where does she get the material for more?
>>149978394
Honestly that'd be a whole other thing of shenanigans so probably better the devil you know.

Also more like they should do like dc and just do a meta human thing. Which is just one big blanket term but because of mutants stuff gets so weird as somehow a guy hit with radioactive spiders is a hero and a guy that bends metal is a monster. Mutants no longer make sense because marvel has to make the populace complete retards to make it work
Anonymous No.149978524 >>149978561
>>149978440
>mutants
>random bystander hate
>devils
That's it!
they could retcon Mutants from being just mutations to a devil's curse. The people hate these Mutants because they're literally people with cursed devil powers, a cures that "grants" them with superhuman abilities but at the cost of eternal prejudice and ridicule; their curse make them look like monsters to the ones without the curse, so normal people don't see people but abominations; or by gazing unto a cursed one, hatred and wrath fills their mind.

...or something, ...IDK?
Anonymous No.149978561
>>149978524
Eh then it gets to religous-y at that point might as well make more angel demon themed ones. Plus techincally that'd fit some of the more dr strange villians. Also think marvel tends to try and do more obscure god lore while dc plays much more into the heaven and hell thing. Also making them not look human does defeat the core message of they look just like them mostly just with a few differences, though maybe something like stigmata or symbols could work but again then we might as well make them like a witch, wiccan, wizard druid vibe group with all the demon symbolism

Why we have the asgardians and all their unique god lore like knull and celestials.
Anonymous No.149978634 >>149978786 >>149980367
>>149978440
The mutant thing make sense because apparently one day they will outnumber humanity and take their place, the problem is that the mutants at their max where like 15 millions against 7 billions humans, to make it work you have to have many more mutants around the world but that would mess up the entire Marvel setting
Anonymous No.149978730 >>149978786
>>149978242
I think it's fine. She went from an obsessive fan stalking to a specific guy to now being the person everyone obsesses over. There's still a core there of being obsessed with fame and attention. I think it would have been a bit more of an interesting/weird twist if she was obsessed with her Istathot persona though, like she otherizes her influencer persona as a separate person that she's obsessed with.
Anonymous No.149978786 >>149978908 >>149980367
>>149978634
Indeed it would and see problem with this is mutants being outnumbering humans really barely matters. As I mean who wouldn't want the next gens of humanity to just be a bunch of super human godlings. Plus it's more of the semantics of how every five secs the world is against mutants when they just saved all of humanity just yesterday or something.
>>149978730
Wonder if they plan to do more with her or just use her here. Got a bit of a punchline vibe from her but get a bit of her split into the 2 parts.

Also how does one become obsessed with themself in this instance. Wouldn't it make more sense for her to be more the type to want to be number 1/most memorable person in the world or something so becomes obsessive in competitiveness to other social media people.
Anonymous No.149978835 >>149979175
>>149964430 (OP)
Always hated the boy, girl, teen variants of superheroes, its lazy and boring
Anonymous No.149978848
>>149964472
Hideous art. Eduardo risso is definitely the better risso.
Anonymous No.149978908 >>149979159
>>149978786
Separate personalities ala Typhoid Mary. The influencer persona is her desire for fame that Piper (her normal personality) desires but thinks she can't be while Paper Doll is her desire to "help" and grasp onto that fame.
Anonymous No.149979028 >>149979103
>>149978440
>Guess bullseye can just make them and taught her though doesn't make sense how she gets more seeing as all spider people make that stuff with science not just naturally so where does she get the material for more?
There are a couple 616 Spider people who have organic webbing like Silk, AraΓ±a and Kaine (as the Other)
But definitely not Bailey, and I don't think Maka has met any of the above
Anonymous No.149979083
>>149971329
Caroline might already have more fans than maka kek

I mean as crazy as it may sound only one who could do it is Dan slott as he wrote the most memorable and best version of maka so far. So why not leave him to do it again, but you aren't wrong maka truly needs better writers as you said it's not bad just painfully average. Better than others out right now but nothing to write home about not a comic you'd recommend to a friend because maka has no real edge to her or umph to her character/arc.
>>149971454
Honestly this sounds so obvious but isn't a bad idea at all. Feels like something they'd have done if thsi was a 00s comic that was when a lot of the more girly themes and more focus on the "Girl power" thing was big. I think could be fun to add more of the juvenile and maybe even girly side of maka could work
>>149971752
Yeah they add a few scenes of them like beba and the bullseye meets the teacher thing but they mostly don't fully commit to the bit but maybe next issue will have return of the queen

Yeah they do mention she's in school but don't do much with it also weird but similar to bailey probably realized no one cared. Why I preferred homeless bailey he was mostly full time hero and it's a unique way to not have to deal with school or more basic juvenile hero beats
Anonymous No.149979103
>>149979028
Either way how do organic webs even work? An no she hasn't only bailey plus since she's connected to his "totem" now could she even copy another spider person
Anonymous No.149979159
>>149978908
Huh interesting and horrifying, like god forbid you fuck piper. You've got a yandere but for themself.

>Imagine be a anon, happen to hit it off with a beautiful influencer girl
>Get to fuck and notice she's more than just the persona and might really have problem with attention
>Anon thinks he'll be able to support her so she want be so deseperate for likes or let those mean comments get to her
>Later that night you wake up to the equivalent of sadako in the body of a random "fan" you guess of piper
>She's got a knife pointed at you and tells you
>"How dare you defile piper, she was pure and perfect"
>You try to deseculate the situation but she starts blather to herself
>Then you begin to recognize the voice ...........is that piper???
>Oh boy penis what have we gotten ourselves into this time
Anonymous No.149979175 >>149979281 >>149979418 >>150078233
>>149978835
STFU you fucking casual.
This has been going since before your grandpa was dried sperm in your great grandmother’s cooch.
Anonymous No.149979209 >>149979258 >>149980282 >>150007221
Why was Bullseye grooming a 10 year old girl?
Why doesn’t Maka act like a victim? Did she want it?
Why did her mother let her travel around the world with a deranged murderer?
Anonymous No.149979258
>>149979209
Finally we have Marvel Deadstroke
Anonymous No.149979281
>>149979175
Just because it was a common comic concept, doesn't mean it didn't suck
Anonymous No.149979418
>>149979175
Yeah & it was made fun of back then too. It's worse now trying to bring that back with "Shazam" & the bloated Super or Bat families.
Anonymous No.149980282
>>149979209
I still think they already had the series and character drawn up, tasked Slott with introducing her and Slott just did whatever he wanted and they're basically ignoring all but the most basic of basic parts of it.
Anonymous No.149980367 >>149981428
>>149978634
>>149978786
The mutant thing's got a bit of a paradox going on where they're insisting they're a species/race despite the facts that:
1. Two humans can have a mutant baby, and in fact frequently do.
2. Two mutants can have a human baby.

That's not even something possible with ethnicity, let alone a separate species.

They're literally just humans with superpower genes. Basically the only thing that makes them different from, say, a "mutate" or an inhuman, is the fact that Cerebro and Sentinels can magically tell the difference.

The whole thing's a bit of a dumb mess.

(Oh and don't let X-Men fans gaslight you into thinking Marvel Civilians only hate mutants - Marvel Civilians are damn near universally awful, and X-Men fans often have no idea what's happening in Marvel outside of their superpowered soap opera.)
Anonymous No.149980852
Anonymous No.149981428 >>149981471
>>149980367
Exactly why I always saw the mutant thing as super stupid which I thought was the point. It was meant to be like a race allegory etc. Now it's just whatever and basically the muties are the real villians all the krakoa and the wars and destroying the electromagentic fields future bs.

Literally mutants are just their own biggest enemies and racist, "we are homo-superior"

>Humans who weren't racist before "WOW FUCK THIS GUY!"
Anonymous No.149981471
>>149981428
It was never a race allegory. It was just a way to distinct a us vs them narrative of outcasts mistreated irrationally by the world.
Anonymous No.149981506 >>149981533 >>149981535 >>149981597 >>149983191 >>150026099
She’s so cute.
Anonymous No.149981524 >>149981533 >>149981597
So chill.
Anonymous No.149981533 >>149981553
>>149981506
>>149981524
In a good timeline this would be young Mayday
Anonymous No.149981535
>>149981506
Um, that suit is looking too tight on her now.
Anonymous No.149981552
>Maka accidentally copies Beba and turns into a giant sperg
Anonymous No.149981553 >>149982077
>>149981533
Mayday is an old hag.
But you can still see a May Parker in Ultimate Spider-Man
Anonymous No.149981597 >>149981624
>>149981506
>>149981524
Proceeds to leave haiwaii for new york
Anonymous No.149981624 >>149981968 >>149982159
>>149981597
This is from the November solicitations. She’s going back there.
Anonymous No.149981968 >>149981994
>>149981624
>that means another issue with no Karate Kuties
Anonymous No.149981994 >>149982159
>>149981968
Vermin probably ate them.
Anonymous No.149982077
>>149981553
USM May is cute!
Anonymous No.149982159 >>149982260
>>149981994
Should have ate beba and left the red head and caroline
>>149981624
Well that'd be interesting but also make me wonder why leave a island for new york
Anonymous No.149982260 >>149985502
>>149982159
There's Maka, Caroline, Beba, the redhead and the boyish/reverse trap Asian.
Anonymous No.149983149
>>149964430 (OP)
Reading
Anonymous No.149983191 >>149983371 >>149984997 >>149985476
>>149981506
Do 10 year olds have curves like that?
Anonymous No.149983371
>>149983191
She's in the process of copying Nina Dowd.
Anonymous No.149984464 >>149984983
Anonymous No.149984983
>>149984464
Shaka (training) brah
Anonymous No.149984997
>>149983191
Why are you asking us?
Anonymous No.149985476
>>149983191
Try searching on some site
Anonymous No.149985502 >>149985719
>>149982260
Their was a boyish asian??? also maka doesn't count since she's the mc but yeah suppose their are but we all know best girl is caroline
Anonymous No.149985719 >>149985977 >>149986948
>>149985502
Yes. Considering she's in the locker room with the other girls and is shown in another scene with a shirt/whatever under her gi like the other girls, she's a girl.
Anonymous No.149985977 >>149985990 >>149986948
>>149985719
>Jubilee minus a personality
Anonymous No.149985990 >>149986948
>>149985977
That's why we need a downtime story focused entirely on Maka doing things with them.
Anonymous No.149986948 >>149987130 >>150028422
>>149985719
Yeah definitely a girl just forgot her, only two i remember positively are best girl caroline and the cute red head who was memed for looking a bit like mayday

She even has green eyes like mayday, also to be fair guys wear shirts under gi as well a lot of the time. but could be sports bra but most if they are 10-12 don't need one so yeah prob a shirt. need to draw some of the karate cuties
>>149985977
Caroline=Danny's daughter/niece
Girl=jubilee's baby/cousin
Red head=mayday/alt universe may

Beba is beba who cares
>>149985990
Yeah definitely really it's the only thing we know she goes too, though could maybe show them in school. Think sadly we won't see more of them since beba and her are hanging out after classes

Though I'll be honest i'll abandon the rest just for more caroline. I want her to get her dub, maka really is kind of full of shit for roasting caroline after cheating
Anonymous No.149987130 >>149987300
>>149986948
Danny only has one sibling, a sister who’s evil called Death Sting.
Could she be Caroline’s mother?
Anonymous No.149987300
>>149987130
If she is caroline was definitely raised by danny then. Maybe she's one of Danny's long-lost love children. He was a rich, billionaire Playboy.


Honestly could see her being his direct kid too, she became a weeb because all of danny's stuff is martial artist and from the east
Anonymous No.149988678 >>149988803
Will bailey ever appear in this run?
Anonymous No.149988803 >>149988865
>>149988678
I hope not.
Anonymous No.149988865
>>149988803
Why he a good boy
Anonymous No.149989521 >>149995680
Bailey needs to show up, be like the cameo of the popular character in a mid-bad spin off
Anonymous No.149990024 >>149993946
>>149964574
I can fix her.
Anonymous No.149990142 >>149991623
>>149972638
Copying Paper Doll probably would have fucked her up given the new(?) dual personality gimmick, especially since it's not like Vermin where only one was in control.
Anonymous No.149990266 >>149991623
>>149972638
>Same with lady bullseye who by the way is she half naked? because what is that outfit.
It's a zentai thing plus face paint I guess.
Anonymous No.149990534 >>149990826
I really really really really really really really hate "mutant" as an origin. You may as well just say "I'm incapable of thinking of a story" when you pick that shit.
Anonymous No.149990826 >>149991904 >>149992970 >>150022199
>>149990534
Fuck off Quesada. Their origin should be more than just "source my powers" but that requires effort on the writer's part.
Anonymous No.149991623 >>149991950
>>149990142
True see I was just gonna say the vice verse. They never showed her being bad at absorbing crazy or inhuman people. She absorbed vermin who basically had a literal fried psychosis in human brain. Dude was scared filled with tons of abuse via experimentation and was filled with voices so felt he'd be the hardest to tame but she did it super easy.

So idk if just a bi polar thing would work, even bailey she only failed because he was actually connected to a whole interdimensional bs thing and the reality wipe thing and she still kept his powers.
>>149990266
Makes sense just felt like the white was her well.......skin and all. Like paper doll has to use make up to hide her face and all that. Also they show off a bit of the line implying pubic bones

>Imagine if one of her bullseye symbols was on her pussy
Anonymous No.149991904 >>149992082
>>149990826
>Fuck off Quesada.
?
>Their origin should be more than just "source my powers"
NTA but isn't that exactly what that anon is complaining about?
Anonymous No.149991917 >>149993076 >>149994351
So is Maka basically just Rogue+? Does she keep these stolen powers forever?
Anonymous No.149991950 >>149992110 >>149992149
>>149991623
Part of me does wonder that it originally was supposed to be, like, body paint or something.
Anonymous No.149992082 >>149992156 >>149997961 >>150022199
>>149991904
>>Fuck off Quesada.
>?
Joe Quesada was the Marvel EIC During the whole House of M/Decimation event which purged all but like 300 mutants. Him (or Tom Brevoort) claimed that it would help make more interesting origins except it didn't. You just got "my parent was _____ so I got their powers but different".
Anonymous No.149992110 >>149992149 >>150056858
>>149991950
>Matt Murdock going all
>WHERE IS OMNIMAN
>on an unconscious woman
Nice attention to detail that the blind man can't tell that her eyes are closed.
Anonymous No.149992149
>>149991950
Funnier if they retcon this as that makes this funnier dude grabbing a good bit of her meat lol
>>149992110
To be fair assuming he's asking about bullseye, then this makes sense bullseye is a pretty big menace in the Daredevil verse.

He's a real schizo reminds me of how they wanted him to train gwenpool originally. A guy like him shouldn't be around young people especially girls
Anonymous No.149992156
>>149992082
>my parent was _____ so I got their powers but different
Is that really all that different from
>I got my powers from my writer's butt via a similarly sourced x-gene
?

There are also literally mutants that work like
>my parent was _____ so I got their powers but different
as well as
>my parent was _____ so I got the same exact powers

Just seems like a lateral move at worst. ...Maybe a slight upgrade because it pissed off X-Men fans and accomplished nothing, which is always funny.
Anonymous No.149992897
Mutants just suck because of how they use them, more than anything lol
Anonymous No.149992970
>>149990826
>Fuck off Quesada
Say it more Maka.

>Frick off, Quesadumb!
Anonymous No.149993076 >>149993937 >>149994351
>>149991917
Only for Bailey because he imprinted on her.
Anonymous No.149993937 >>149994351
>>149993076
...What the fuck does that mean? What has she done to the precious bug boy?
Anonymous No.149993946
>>149990024
Why would you want to?
Anonymous No.149994351
>>149993937
More like what has he done to her, on her mind 24/7. He's all she thinks about and apparently she thought about him even when he was gone just didn't know who or what was in her head lol

>https://litter.catbox.moe/zyicb6.png
>>149991917
>>149993076
Yep only bailey I assumed it'd make her powers become weaker but not really also confusing as she acts weak but shouldn't she have bailey's super spider powers as her base. Why was she worried about caroline or lady bullseye etc.
Anonymous No.149995680 >>149995719
>>149989521
https://vocaroo.com/14vUTnSgrq1D
Anonymous No.149995719
>>149995680
honestly never saw the movie but this does sound like mertle is this the va or actually the girl from the movie cause if so girl in Live action killed it

But also man a bit to whiny for maka
Anonymous No.149996841 >>149997911
>>149964430 (OP)
If you were to fix/write the Maka run how would you?
Anonymous No.149997446 >>149998136 >>149998932
I notice there is a big difference in the amount of actions comic got. Classic early Spiderman had Peter spend half the time in soap opera and the other half he is sick/hurt/depressed/stupid while a villain does something forcing him to fight him twice or more in the issue and then its over. Here Spidergirl doesnt even fight the villain she just gets rekt and its over.
Anonymous No.149997911 >>149998932
>>149996841
venom symbiote
Anonymous No.149997961 >>149998049 >>149998932
>>149992082
Spend more time establishing exactly her deal in the first issue (such as exactly how she has web-shooters. Using stolen equipment or fake webs might work. Lady Bullseye use probably was intended for the other odd point, but not sure if it actually accomplished that). Beyond that, I don't know how to improve it it at this point.
Anonymous No.149998049 >>149998932
>>149997961
More time with her supporting cast aka the other karate girls and not her family. In fact, her family shouldn't be here IMO and they should have found a different way to have her in NYC. But yeah, nothing at all was established, we're just kind of dropped in to a situation that seemingly ignores most of what previously happened and it's combined with typical decompressed pacing and no attention at all paid to her civilian life. They're just filler scenes for costume fights. I don't think it's a bad book though.
Anonymous No.149998136 >>149998932
>>149997446
>Spidergirl doesnt even fight the villain she just gets rekt
Honestly... I like the realism there. About the least realistic thing is probably Paper Doll not finishing the job.
Anonymous No.149998932 >>149999233 >>150000217
>>149997911
Don't we have enough loli venoms
>>149997446
Maybe they know what anons want, ryona of bratty loli
>>149998136
To be fair she begged and had no chance, also the sound alarmed her so she lost focus and dipped just in case someone else catches her.

Also the irony is how hasn't a bigger hero showed up. Maybe we'll get a bailey cameo soon or maybe a daredevil since maka is super bullseye connected
>>149997961
Yeah, really felt like they were using her to introduce the concept of "hey why are you a hero since you aren't particularly good or just". so introducing the whole "what is maka? what is her goal?" but irony is feel even she doesn't know and her story isn't interesting enough for her arc to be finding herself.

If they wanted a finding herself arc, she should have bailey's origin. Hated abused unloved, or abandoned alone had to fend for herself. But they made her a sheltered loved kid with natural talent and who never loses. It isn't that interesting or make it easy to explain her more villianous/immoral tendencies.
>>149998049
Yeah her with a family is weird as it ruins the potential of explaining her life of crime/assholery. She basically is just a brat now that we know she has a normal loving family and she wasn't even winning to get them money she even admits that in this new issue she's never thought about how hard her mom works until she had that money. So she very much was living the high life just for the thrills.

Definitely not bad but if it wasn't for spider boy, i'd have dropped after issue 1 or 2. She needs something interesting maybe more karate girls or something as her current stuff just makes her to normal which makes you question all her other stuff like fighting and wanting to kill bailey.

I feel like if it was me I'd have had her get adopted/taken in by daredevil like bailey. He'd want to "deprogram" her from bullseye and maybe then lady bullseye is a bad influence to bring out some of her old bullseye tendencies and influence
Anonymous No.149999233 >>149999342 >>149999544
>>149998932
>Don't we have enough loli venoms
...there are loli venoms?
Anonymous No.149999342 >>149999544 >>150000217 >>150002787
>>149999233
Yes but never in 616
Anonymous No.149999544
>>149999233
Well theirs a loli and shota venom
>>149999342
yep, though I thought katie gave it up don't remember this scene.

Also bet her head is crazy
Anonymous No.150000217 >>150002825
>>149999342
that little claw hand is adorable
>>149998932
the fuck do you mean, "enough loli venoms"
the statement is a contradiction
Anonymous No.150001739
Beba's autism would drive a symbiote insane.
Anonymous No.150002787 >>150003338
>>149999342
Imagine the blowjob
Anonymous No.150002825 >>150005119
>>150000217
I mean katie is enough
Anonymous No.150002882
>>149964790
>Wells run
Not canon btw
Anonymous No.150003338
>>150002787
this guy gets it
Anonymous No.150004073
>Spider-Girl
Wait, now there is a female copy of that red head kid? Jesus Christ, someone should bomb marvel.
Anonymous No.150005119
>>150002825
M O R E
V E N O M
L O L I S
Anonymous No.150005146 >>150005545 >>150006452
Drew some Caroline was fun dynamic pose practice
Anonymous No.150005545 >>150018541
>>150005146
Nice, she should karate kick smelly stinky Maka and be the main character.
Anonymous No.150005692
>>149972856
now express yourself without womanly histrionics
Anonymous No.150005775
>>149964520
>>149969423
Beba understands that pigeons are awesome. And it's true, they're surprisingly clean (for birds) and are in cities because we hauled them there then abandoned them.
Anonymous No.150006452 >>150018541
>>150005146
Good job.
Anonymous No.150006517 >>150006772
Alright one more caroline before I pass out for the night. Hope you guys enjoy some art of the true best girl
Anonymous No.150006772 >>150018541
>>150006517
Thank you
Anonymous No.150007221 >>150007399
>>149979209
And what else did Bullseye do to her while traveling?
Anonymous No.150007399 >>150008306 >>150012564
>>150007221
Anonymous No.150008306 >>150009169 >>150011520
>>150007399
How did he get away with it
Anonymous No.150009169 >>150009529
>>150008306
Maka is stupid apparently and probably is from a woman only household she needs a male in her life
Anonymous No.150009529 >>150010164
>>150009169
I offer myself for the role
Anonymous No.150010164 >>150013015
>>150009529
To late she's been ruined
Anonymous No.150011520 >>150011570
>>150008306
Who?
Anonymous No.150011570
>>150011520
Bullseye
Anonymous No.150012484 >>150012852
It's okayish, but it just lacks the humor and charm Spider-Boy had.
Anonymous No.150012564 >>150012852
>>150007399
Is there any moar of her in "That" outfit?
Anonymous No.150012852 >>150013109
>>150012484
Yeah think because maka doesn't know what she wants to be. Bailey had a character and goal that was standardized also all his cast were great, he had spidey, daredevil and christina literally christina is a rare example of a great support friend that isn't bland or annoying.

She gave both fun and responsibility vibes, also add on them being pretty open with his juvenile side and characters. So many goofy but fun scenes also bailey had some charm as a mc, maka if she was the same one from spider boy she'd be a fun mc but she's trying to be both versions with being a good girl which is a bit meh.
>>150012564
Nope
Anonymous No.150013015 >>150013366
>>150010164
D-did….did Bullseye touch her?
Is she still whole?
Anonymous No.150013052
Never forget that there is a SuperLoli as well.
Anonymous No.150013109 >>150013366
>>150012852
>Nope
Why Lord, why has thou forsaken me?!?!?!
Anonymous No.150013366 >>150013420 >>150013831
>>150013015
No, he made sure to get rid of all her innocence
>>150013109
Because maka lost a lot of her loveability compare the spider boy threads with her to these and it's night and day.

>This is closest you'll get
Anonymous No.150013420 >>150013708
>>150013366
>Because maka lost a lot of her loveability compare the spider boy threads with her to these and it's night and day.
>>This is closest you'll get
Thanks Anon. Sucks to hear that but it's pretty true.
Anonymous No.150013521 >>150013708 >>150016423
Should've given the spin-off to Hulkette. Just her picking fights with various kid characters and D-List (but amusing) villains.
Anonymous No.150013708
>>150013420
Yeah, their are a few another reason I say the thread pretty dead she has a bit of art just no one posting it

Think because she feels a bit listless in this run, and hasn't gained the charm of spider boy or her interesting intro to the spider boy series.
>>150013521
No leave her be, best to leave her alone so she can stay good.

Though her fighting other kid heroes sounds a bit interesting. Weird that she appeared in the new champions and nothing really came of it only thing we learned is her powers name/theme. Gamma and chi focus also that she's from the little eastern place so she's some type of monk but with gamma powers. Really a weird mix, i'd love to see her fight or work with pei or crescant.
Anonymous No.150013831 >>150014401
>>150013366
I think the problem is more that Norsewoman is just kind of a blah 5/10 writer. It's a problem the Big Two have in general.

But Spider-Boy wasn't really good either.
Anonymous No.150014401 >>150014641
>>150013831
Idk who norsewoman is in this context but could be true, the big two have a habit of using the same writers over and over. An in some cases making them writer multiple comics at once which makes them even worse as they can't focus.

Also let's calm down anon, spider boy was a breath of fresh air for the big two especially for a spider knock off. Maybe because of that i might be misremembering/over praising since we've had so much mid of that genre but his series was one of the few I felt was worth giving a look and stayed fun mostly through only a few also it had great sales record as well so pretty much only one of the kid sidekicks to really hold himself up
Anonymous No.150014641 >>150015109 >>150015436
>>150014401
>Idk who norsewoman is in this context
Torunn Gronbekk is Norwegian
Anonymous No.150015109
>>150014641
Huh never knew that but don't pay that much attention
Anonymous No.150015436
>>150014641
Huh. She's actually Norwegian instead of having grandparents from Minnesota.
Anonymous No.150016423 >>150016472 >>150017141 >>150018185
>>150013521
It sucks that Hulkette was not part of the New Champions. Has she appeared in a She Hulk comic yet?
Anonymous No.150016472 >>150016907 >>150017005 >>150018185
>>150016423
>It sucks that Hulkette was not part of the New Champions.
Why? That book sucked and Foxe is one of the prime examples of the fact that Marvel's core writers are 4/10 shitters (along with Duggan, Orlando, and Stephaniericalyssa Phillipschultzwong).
Anonymous No.150016907 >>150016945 >>150018185
>>150016472
It could have at least used her if they want her to stand on her own.
Anonymous No.150016945 >>150018185
>>150016907
Hulkette should just be part of this book.
Anonymous No.150017005
>>150016472
Mackay the god so far.
Maybe in 2030s he will be called a hack.
Anonymous No.150017141 >>150018185
>>150016423
Considering how dogshit New Champions was been, I'd say she dodged a bullet. I can't get over that book. Two issues left and Foxe would rather introduce a new gay black half-vampire (who will never be seen again) rather than, I don't know, clarify anything about Moon Squire's background? Hell, I don't even know the kid's age, half the panels he looked like he was younger than the others, was that an art fluke or intentional? Garbage writer, garbage book.
Ideally Slott wasn't lying when he said he wanted to do more Spider-Boy. I wouldn't want him on Spider-MAN again (although things are actually getting worse without him, I've gotta say), but Spider-Boy? Yeah, hopefully.
Anonymous No.150018185
>>150016423
It was for the best anon, in marvel better to die a cute one off with unlimited potential than become a mc in a poorly written book or become aged up depressed with tons of new bs added to you making the old fans hate you.
>>150016472
Damn, didn't even want to check but sad that happened really new champions just was best when it was just designs and we made up origins. Sad it was bad but was expected also isn't it already cancelled?
>>150016945
>>150016907
See but some people are best as support not everyone should or can lead their own book this book being a perfect example.

I'm honestly glad spider boy ended on top he multiple times sold out, and was well liked enough. He made it to 20 issues, best to keep her with other kid heroes and maybe have her or bailey and maka cameo in future foundation or a power pack book. Than try hard to over think her and make her over done, also she really is in a rock and a hard place as a kid does not fit in the hulk canon. She would get abused and broken because most hulk storylines are horrifying for a low level fighter and filled with depression and inner turmoil
>>150017141
I do hope so too, and it's Dan and a superman run he'll be fired or cancelled after about a year or two and he'll be right back.

I think some people are best working on their own thing rather than well spider man or super established characters the whole time. But really it's sad when dan slott can do spider man better than the current main thing.

>Maybe we should make a list of stuff we'd want in a bailey continuation or idk ......."spider kids" run kek.

Def would want more hulkette and maka stuff (but the good maka)
Anonymous No.150018293 >>150018900
Spider-Boy lasted that long only because of Slott influence in the spider office
Anonymous No.150018541 >>150019492 >>150024391
>>150005545
>Smelly stinky Maka
Garbage maka
>>150006452
>>150006772
Thanks guys gonna try and draw some more stuff in a bit.Idk if I want to do more caroline or not my secret goal is to make her super popular but even still, still is maka thread as well

But caroline is best girl, but might try the other cuties as well maybe faster sketch
Anonymous No.150018900
>>150018293
His influence is "Lowe literally thinks Slott's Spider-Man is what Spider-Man should be" and even that couldn't save Spider-Man, the revived SpOck book or Spider-Boy.
Anonymous No.150019492 >>150020344 >>150024391
>>150018541
Draw them in Maka's costume
Anonymous No.150020344
>>150019492
.......No
Anonymous No.150022199 >>150022378
>>149990826
>>149992082
Okay.
Your point is dumb. A character with a name as high-profile as "Spider-Girl" deserves a better origin than just "she has powers because she was born with the Superpowers Gene (like 50000 other characters)." The fact that many writers sucked at coming up with origins when forced doesn't change the fact that she got lemon of an origin.
Anonymous No.150022378 >>150022550
>>150022199
She's only a Spider-Girl to keep the name in circulation. Even in-story it isn't normal.
Anonymous No.150022550 >>150022653
>>150022378
And?
No excuses. If you want to have a new "Spider-Girl" do the work and give a better reason for her powers than "mutant with Spider-Man's powers"
>Well actually her mutant power was to copy powers and she copied Spider-Boy's...
C'mon.
Anonymous No.150022653 >>150022965 >>150023126
>>150022550
What is the point of doing work if it only exists to prevent a name from going generic? Having her be an almost human appearance New Man or an alien from a planet of intelligent spider-like creatures wearing a rubber mask or something doesn't matter since she's going to just be background fodder in a few years.
Anonymous No.150022803
If she was one of those 1970s heroes created to represent different locations than New York, she'd have a motif of this to her costume. I can feel it.
Anonymous No.150022965 >>150023126
>>150022653
>Well why shouldn't I half-ass my job
I don't know how to explain to you that people should want to produce good work. For that matter, we readers should expect better.
Doing a good job as a writer might even make people less likely to make her "background fodder in a few years."
Anonymous No.150023126 >>150023170 >>150023679
>>150022653
>>150022965
Actually, let me try to explain it. Popeye.
When Popeye was first introduced into Thumbnail Theater, the comic was about Olive Oyl and her terrible dumbass-filled family. Popeye was just meant to show up for a few strips. Olive's awful family had come up with a sure-fire way to win a ton of money at an island casino, Popeye was just a dude they hired to get them there and back. On the way back the casino owner's goons tried to kill the Oyls, and Popeye rolled up his sleeves and went "not on MY fucking boat," kicking their asses and taking a few bullets in the process (he got better because of a magic chicken. COMICS!). And that was meant to be the end of him except that readers went "hang on, I loved that character, he was a breath of fresh air" and he came back.
You can have "disposable cannon fodder" written all over you, if people like how you're written it can make a difference between whether you're a fan favorite people want to see survive, or just the fodderiest of cannon fodder. Right now I'm not attached to this Spider-Girl, and part of it is because she's a character that has powers because SHE JUST DOES.
Anonymous No.150023170
>>150023126
Anonymous No.150023679
>>150023126
Actually when you put it that it, it shows that this comic should be about Caroline. Caroline, in one appearance, showed herself to be a hard worker and showed zero hesitation in going in and fighting a murderous, animalistic and cannibalistic creature that gives Spider-Man frights despite being, presumably, a ten year old girl with nothing but a black belt from a karate dojo. That's instantly more eye catching as a character than Maka.
Anonymous No.150024391 >>150025317 >>150026707 >>150027098 >>150032260
>>149970253
>>150018541
Decided to draw some of the karate cuties
>they gotta help pay for the dojos rent.

Originally wasn't gonna do beba because not a fan of her but did it anyway
But ironically beba feels the best to me was finding the builds and then thought beba probably a bit chubby and that gave me more of a chubby loli vibe
>https://files.catbox.moe/g69abj.png
>https://files.catbox.moe/l6kiu3.png
>>150019492
I did it
Anonymous No.150025317 >>150026716 >>150028422
>>150024391
That girl looks like USM May lol.
Anonymous No.150026099
>>149981506
wish I knew how to surf...
Anonymous No.150026707 >>150028422
>>150024391
ToT
Anonymous No.150026716 >>150028005 >>150028422
>>150025317
great. now i can't unsee it.
Anonymous No.150027098 >>150028422
>>150024391
>help pay for the dojos rent
Beba would autisticly explain the history of prostitution to the karate girls
Anonymous No.150028005 >>150028422
>>150026716
May is everywhere!
Anonymous No.150028422 >>150028676
>>150025317
Why I said something about it earlier>>149986948 as she very much does also why she's filed as such she doesn't have a name I believe. Maybe why her and caroline are my fave
>>150026707
>>150026716
I kind of want to and don't, kind of love the erratic style of her hair more gives her cute but mc energy but may in the other verse is cuter
>>150027098
I feel beba is the stupid type of autistic, but could also see this why she's smiling idk why I made her a slut. As I said unironically don't like beba at all but knew you guys did so compromises

But really she'd probably be the most willing to do it but maybe more assuming it's "pole athletics or special gymnastic training" so autistically oblivious to the danger
>>150028005
Karate cutie, takes the puff of the USM May, and the spikes of old may and has become Maybe parker
Anonymous No.150028676 >>150029340
>>150028422
>May in the other verse is cuter
She's probably the cutest character in all of the Ultimate universe.
Anonymous No.150029340 >>150029433
>>150028676
This is kind of true of how fans view it, don't hate richard but don't care either. May is adorable though, really need art of her and spiderling. Reminds me that maybe may is best as a kid because really all mays being grown/teen is a bit lame. like spiderling getting aged up
Anonymous No.150029433 >>150029943 >>150031160 >>150031195
>>150029340
Annie should have never been aged up. She's now just a Mayday clone that's forever stuck in Spiderverse slop.
Anonymous No.150029943 >>150030427 >>150030436
>>150029433
Yep they do it so they can kill them off and make peter suffer but they know they can't just kill a kid so boom make her a teen/adult now she can be cut out. Idk why marvel/comics despise most kids but they do with a passion

>Does make me think if they ever bring bailey back they should do a "Spider kids" run
>Bailey, annie, mayday, maka,.....may. Could be interesting and dumb kiddie adventures
>Joke is they all want peter's attention
Anonymous No.150030427 >>150030860
>>150029943
>Marvel hates kids
DC's no better.
Anonymous No.150030436 >>150030860
>>150029943
>May
Luckily for her, she has a second dad!
Anonymous No.150030860 >>150030980 >>150031154
>>150030436
I assumed some multiverse sheningan explaination how all of them are in one verse so maybe may gets the symbiote like her brother but gets brought to 616 so she's a black spider girl
>>150030427
True why they made jon kent a gay twink via bs time speed up stuff
Anonymous No.150030980 >>150031248
>>150030860
>black spider girl
No, no, Black Black Cat is the black one.
Anonymous No.150031154 >>150031248
>>150030860
There are some things in USM that seem to imply May will help Benom in the future, so May being a host for the "symbiote" doesn't seem so crazy.
Anonymous No.150031160 >>150031195 >>150031248 >>150033409
>>150029433
Annie will hook up with Miles. It’s in the cards.
Anonymous No.150031195 >>150033409
>>150029433
>>150031160
Anonymous No.150031248 >>150031373 >>150031507
>>150030980
I meant venom, so black spider like black suit so may with the black suit richard has
>>150031154
Nice that'd be kind of interesting, though you'd think that the venom suit would love kids. They are super malleable and probably can't fight back well
>>150031160
I feel miles wouldn't survive that, fans might actually riot if any form of peter's daughter gets with miles
Anonymous No.150031373 >>150031511 >>150033409
>>150031248
I agree they would riot for Mayday and Ultimate May with Miles.
But not for teen Annie May, Spiderling.
Anonymous No.150031507 >>150031667
>>150031248
Benom is obsessed with May and Richard. Literally the first thing he did when he was created was talk about them.
Anonymous No.150031511 >>150031838 >>150031942
>>150031373
Honestly i hate teen annie, she so badly designed. Young annie is adorable and her suit works kind of a juvenile body armor cute vibe.
Anonymous No.150031667 >>150031756 >>150032121
>>150031507
Huh interesting, so new venom loli when?
Anonymous No.150031756
>>150031667
Hopefully soon.
Anonymous No.150031838 >>150032436 >>150032690 >>150065626
>>150031511
Teen Annie is a serious contender for worst Spider-girl suit ever.
Anonymous No.150031942 >>150032730
>>150031511
This is why teen Annie needs to hook up with Miles for better cred.
Anonymous No.150032121 >>150032690
>>150031667
If the writer that will take Hickman place care more about the family it's a possibility
Anonymous No.150032260 >>150032690
>>150024391
Noice
Anonymous No.150032436 >>150032527 >>150032690
>>150031838
Why? Because of the blue?
Anonymous No.150032527 >>150033159
>>150032436
And also the mask.
Anonymous No.150032690 >>150032778
>>150031838
Huh so that's what the under of the spiderling suit looks like honestly forget oh yeah it's a body/spandex thing.Makes me want to get better at drawing latex/shiny fabric
>>150032436
Because it looks so uninspired also yeah just boring but honestly most have seen better and a million suits. Add on to this adult/teen annie looks kind of generic red head doesn't help either.
>>150032121
Nope they'll all die, it is a spider man comic an marvel after all. They'll have new may brutalized and ripped to pieces because god forbid peter has a cute daughter or happiness.
>>150032260
Thanks happy people like it, seems did better than caroline stuff lol
Anonymous No.150032730 >>150032886
>>150031942
No
>Picrel
Anonymous No.150032778 >>150032835 >>150032853 >>150043168
>>150032690
It's too bad that this is the only page where she isn't wearing the armor.
Anonymous No.150032835
>>150032778
Is there a page where she's only wearing just the armor?
Anonymous No.150032853 >>150033036
>>150032778
the simple black suit with the strip of red is already better than her teenage suit
Anonymous No.150032886 >>150033744
>>150032730
Yes!!
It’s time Annie May got blacked!!
Anonymous No.150033036 >>150033159
>>150032853
>her teenage suit
Wait what's her teenage suit looks like?
Anonymous No.150033159 >>150033332
>>150033036
>>150032527
Anonymous No.150033332 >>150033409 >>150033427
>>150033159
Oh for the fucking love of god what the fuck is that?

Thanks I kind of stopped following spiderman when they started making EVERYONE and A T-Rex have spider powers. So a lot of these characters I cannot identify.
Anonymous No.150033409 >>150033457
>>150033332
>>150031160
>>150031195
>>150031373
In the blue
Anonymous No.150033427 >>150033511
>>150033332
>What the fuck is that
What happens when you are relegated to Spiderverse slop.
Anonymous No.150033457 >>150033669
>>150033409
Oh kay, so who ever thought up that design should be dragged out into the street and shot.
Anonymous No.150033511 >>150033669 >>150036248
>>150033427
Not only does hr design suck, that writing is just... I don't have the words to describe something so stupid.
Anonymous No.150033669 >>150034308
>>150033457
>>150033511
This is why she needs to join Miles’s supporting cast
Anonymous No.150033744 >>150033760 >>150033974 >>150034123
>>150032886
The only blacked I want for her is getting a symbiote, not some freelance moon cricket
Anonymous No.150033758
>>149964430 (OP)
She’s adorable
Anonymous No.150033760
>>150033744
I second this motion.
Anonymous No.150033974 >>150034308
>>150033744
No. Being a girlfriend of Miles will boost her popularity and give her controversy that Marvel wants.
Anonymous No.150033986 >>150036248
>thread was fine until Marriagefags showed up and derailed it
Anonymous No.150034123 >>150034328 >>150035220
>>150033744
Anonymous No.150034308 >>150035092
>>150033669
>>150033974

Fuck Miles. Seriously, he's like the Kamala Khan of Spider-Man.
Anonymous No.150034328 >>150034789
>>150034123
Ahh, she's so cute!
Anonymous No.150034789
>>150034328
The cutest!
Anonymous No.150035092 >>150036879
>>150034308
No.
Hook up teen Annie with Miles. She’s already seen her dad and mom as a spider couple that works.
Anonymous No.150035220 >>150039074 >>150042314
>>150034123
Ok kind of like the bone/symbol like armor
Anonymous No.150035581 >>150041639
Anonymous No.150036248 >>150036639
>>150033511
This, she is so much better as a young kid because of the family vibe but comics are retarded and act like they are allergic to kid heroes. Like I swear they age up one kid after a year or two, then introduce another one immediately why I'm happy they ended the spider boy series.
>>150033986
Marriagefag? what's are they
Anonymous No.150036639
>>150036248
I thought the post-timeskip RYV issues were fine. Spider-Girls was good too for what it was. Houser should have probably gotten the chance to write an actual Mayday series because she probably would have done well with it.
Anonymous No.150036701
Actually now that I think about it, they probably should have called up Houser for this series too. I liked the stuff of hers I read on RYV and I feel like Marvel would be a little better right now if both her and Hastings were still around and gotten the chances that have gone to shitters like Duggan or Kelly Thompson.
Anonymous No.150036879 >>150037381 >>150039052
>>150035092
Nobody want to talk about your blacked fetish
Anonymous No.150037381 >>150039052
>>150036879
It’s not about a fetish. It’s the chemistry she shared with Miles.
Also with Anya too.
Anonymous No.150038501 >>150038928
Eh. It doesn't scratch the Spider-Boy itch. Looking for a kid hero that gets some chuckles, action, and feels in. Preferably with good art.
What else you got?
Anonymous No.150038928
>>150038501
Probably just go classic with power pack anon
Anonymous No.150039052 >>150039810
>>150037381
Seriously the way you talk, it comes off a fetish.

And I am in agreement with this anon >>150036879
Anonymous No.150039074 >>150039202
>>150035220
I know, right?! It kind of fucking awesome.
Anonymous No.150039202
>>150039074
Yeah really love when they do something a bit extra with venom/suit designs hate when they are all the same old "sharp teeth, venom spider man symbol" especially when most symbiotes aren't even venom so shouldn't have the symbol on them
Anonymous No.150039810 >>150040750
>>150039052
It would get Annie May more popularity and not make her a Mayday clone.
Anonymous No.150040750 >>150040820 >>150044459
>>150039810
Would it? wouldn't it just make her a love interest and nothig more. She'd lose her potential to have a solo run also most people prefer her as the daughter of a family of heroes not older anyway. So really it'd lock her more into her worst/most boring version. Also think miles already has enough "love interest"
Anonymous No.150040820
>>150040750
Thank you. You explained this far better than I ever could.
Anonymous No.150041639
>>150035581
She's so charming!
Anonymous No.150042314
>>150035220
It's pretty cute.
Anonymous No.150043168
>>150032778
ToT
Anonymous No.150043738 >>150044272 >>150073793
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Anonymous No.150044272 >>150044852
>>150043738
They know what they're doing.
Anonymous No.150044311 >>150044343 >>150045935
I'm way behind on Marvel stuff beccause I don't read comics lul so I wanted to ask, is there any lore explanation yet behind why all of these new "Kid (Super-name here)" characters have popped up nearly all at once?
I swear that it just started with the blue Spider-Boy but then I blink and there's a new copycat Kid-Vengers team, a kid Deadpool, and so on. Shit's weird.
Anonymous No.150044343
>>150044311
The new champions were all Hydra experiments, while Maka is a mutant that copied Bailey's spider-powers.
Anonymous No.150044459 >>150044558
>>150040750
Nah.
With Mikes she would be a spider-couple like her parents.
She could then break off and get her own solo run.
Anonymous No.150044558 >>150044961
>>150044459
>She could then break off and get her own solo run
Lol it wouldn't happen, she would just be his fuckdoll until a new writer have them break up or kill her
Anonymous No.150044852
>>150044272
They are based.
Anonymous No.150044961 >>150045720
>>150044558
Naw. Being related to Peter means they won’t kill get. Also being on 616, like Rachel Summers, means they can acknowledge her even if she’s never born in this reality.
Being a fuck doll is t so bad if they’re also a superheroine.
Anonymous No.150045720
>>150044961
Miles will only get Spider-Gwen or some boring civilian as girlfriend, accept it
Anonymous No.150045935 >>150046590
>>150044311
To be fair kid pool is in the movie and she got moved to the comic and writers know a lot of people like spider man deadpool team up so what if kids and one a girl so it's A-ok to make it shippy.
Anonymous No.150046590 >>150046731
>>150045935
I’m confused.
We’ve seen female Kid Pool (the one from the film) team up with Bailey in a one shot.

But then we’ve seen male Teen Pool, with the skateboard, show up in Champions to team up with them and. Bailey.

And that’s not even counting Deadpool’s Latina teen daughter Ellie who also now goes by Deadpool.
Anonymous No.150046731 >>150046755 >>150047242
>>150046590
I mean it's the multiverse literally infinite pools, also I just assume

>kid pool=blonde/one played by ryan reynolds daughter
>Teen pool=some said he was a "hello fellow kids" joke so actually just deadpool, but really should have been his daughter but just seems like a meme made for the whole no one wants to be a new champion thing.
>Ellie....pool=daughter but no one cares that much she's basically worse than laura, as she didn't have any time to really build up believe she was first introduced in like 2014 but only shown up maybe like 8 or so times in last 10 years and those were very small cameos

Basically their is no official side pools anymore since most of them are dead from the old "deadpool corp" thing.
Anonymous No.150046755 >>150047672
>>150046731
Ellie Deadpool is hit as fuck.
Teen Latina with big ass with Deadpool powers and costume but none of the burnt crisp body.
Anonymous No.150047242 >>150047672
>>150046731
Better late than never, they can start to build up Ellie as a character now
Anonymous No.150047672
>>150046755
I have no interest in her but if she is good that's pleasant surprise.
>>150047242
I mean still weird to give her the "deadpool" title, it's crazier than doing it with x23 who had years literal decades of build up. Then you got some random girl who was just born and realistically same age as in comics.
Anonymous No.150048525 >>150048878 >>150056286
Anonymous No.150048878 >>150049817 >>150054316
>>150048525
>>when only the lower leg has baggy clothing and everything else accentuates the curves of the body.

What was the artist trying to say?
Anonymous No.150049817
>>150048878
The artist is a pervert!
Anonymous No.150050811
Anonymous No.150050929 >>150054210
>>149964430 (OP)
>Paper Doll
Did she appear anywhere between her original arc and this?
I remember me and 5 people on /co/ wanted her to be a Moon Knight villain
Anonymous No.150050959
>>149968938
There's Owl but his only real adaptation (the 2015 Daredevil series) toned him down significantly so casuals don't know who he is. He only shows up in Daredevil as Kingpin's rival/jobber
Anonymous No.150051030 >>150051357
What the fuck is this series? Why is there a series about a loli Spider-Man who's a serial killer but also somehow a superhero? Whose fetish is this?
Anonymous No.150051357 >>150052269
>>150051030
She’s no longer a serial killer. She’s left Bullseye and is now on her own.
Anonymous No.150052269 >>150054362
>>150051357
She was more fun as a serial killer.
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Anonymous No.150054168 >>150054468
>>149964542
>>149964574
>>149964618
>>149964627
>>149964642
>>149964660
>>149964673
I thought she looked familiar. Its Paper Doll from the Spider-Man Brand New Day era. Man its been years since she was last seen
Anonymous No.150054210 >>150061533
>>150050929
From Spider-Man: Brand New Day. In the storyline were Peter Parker became a paparazzi after the Bugle was bought by some guy. She was stalking this one actor & murdering dudes that badmouthed him. It was also that same actor that Mary Jane Watson was in a brief relationship with
Anonymous No.150054316
>>150048878
>The artist is a pervert!
good
Anonymous No.150054362 >>150059387
>>150052269
We have enough new heroes, we need new villains
Anonymous No.150054454
>>149964505
I'm a grown man and I'd still be excited to get $500 cash
Anonymous No.150054468
>>150054168
The OP said it was Paper Doll, bro.
Anonymous No.150054620 >>150054922 >>150056256
>>149964627
Why is this lady D-list? That's a pretty good power
Anonymous No.150054922
>>150054620
Brand New Day introduced character, original motivation made her difficult to reuse, Dan Slott would get less money if she reappeared in adaptations than from ones he came up with the idea for as well like Mr. Negative.
Anonymous No.150056256
>>150054620
Because nobody really used any of the BND characers with the exception of Lily Hollister and Mr. Negative.
Anonymous No.150056286 >>150056575
>>150048525
It's really obvious she only has the baggy pants to stop the artist from drawing her butt
Anonymous No.150056575 >>150056713
>>150056286
But the cover artist DOES draw her butt.
Anonymous No.150056713 >>150056752
>>150056575
And God bless him for that!
Anonymous No.150056752 >>150056821 >>150057132 >>150075139
>>150056713
Dude, she’s 10!!!
Anonymous No.150056821
>>150056752
I agree, she's a 10!
Anonymous No.150056858
>>149992110
>Daredevil can read newspapers by hearing sounds bounce of off the ink in the paper
>but he can't 'see' that her eyes are closed
I wonder what the point of making a blind character fully capable of seeing is.
Anonymous No.150057132 >>150057255 >>150058075
>>150056752
She's more of a 9. Caroline and the redhead are 10s.
Anonymous No.150057255 >>150058075
>>150057132
I get Caroline and the redhead, but come on, Maka a 10 too.
Anonymous No.150058075 >>150058236
>>150057132
True, caroline is best girl and red head looks like mayday so both insta 10s
>>150057255
Not everyone can be 10s anon, the one thing maka can't copy is people's looks

>Now I imagine caroline teasing maka and her realizing she's finally lost at something. Can't steal caroline's beauty
Anonymous No.150058236 >>150058697
>>150058075
>the one thing maka can't copy is people's looks
Words hurt Anon, words hurt...
Anonymous No.150058697
>>150058236
She deserves it being a little cocky thief
Anonymous No.150059387 >>150059410
>>150054362
We need more kid villains.
Anonymous No.150059410 >>150059685 >>150065509
>>150059387
Maka sure used to be one of them, also probably scared of the idea of "oh wow that means this character is a kid in prison, or who's hero wants to be the one to beat up a kid?" It's kind of one of those funny puzzlers situations

Kid heroes should have more kid rivals/villians, but then people would just see it as a kid fight or because villian is kid can't go to hard on their evil or bs. So usually they have to reconcile also add on to that many will think "ahhh they are just a kid they can easily change" so that's how you get makas or gabby's etc.
Anonymous No.150059685 >>150063475 >>150065509
>>150059410
I think Kid villains work better when they are the sidekick of an even worse supervillain. It's why the Bullseye/Maka duo was so fun to me.
Anonymous No.150060294 >>150060428 >>150063475
Anonymous No.150060428 >>150060804 >>150061274
>>150060294
Could Maka copy Storm's every writer treating her like a Mary Sue power?
Anonymous No.150060804
>>150060428
Unfortunately she can't.
Anonymous No.150061274
>>150060428
Nope.
Anonymous No.150061533
>>150054210
Anon, did you read my post? I'm aware of that arc.
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Anonymous No.150062809
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Anonymous No.150063475 >>150064010 >>150065509
>>150059685
Yeah but then same thing "oh he's abusing her" or people say it makes a villian weak like sage and eggman. People hate him having sage as it makes him softer. So honestly can't really win with kid villians either have them be abused for a inevitable redemption or fans hate the kid is just evil and being "used" look at terra and slade, in the og comic she wasn't a victim but fans have hated on it and re headcanon'd her into a molested groomed babydoll
>>150060294
Honestly storm meeting maka and not rogue, or gabby or some other x men kid is a bit of a miss. But storm is cool just her meeting rogue makes the most sense.
Anonymous No.150064010 >>150065509 >>150067427
>>150063475
There really is no winning with kid villains lol.
Anonymous No.150064938
Anonymous No.150065509 >>150067427 >>150067782
>>150059410
>>150059685
>>150063475
>>150064010
One problem with kid villains is that they eventually grow up, and they are understandably more likely to grow out of villainy unless they are the kid-version of an adult supervillain who is already established elsewhere.

People generally like and want to protect children, so it's hard to sell people on rooting against a kid over a long period of time outside of
1) bullies (which kids and the emotionally immature will dehumanize very quickly), and
2) extreme examples of power in malicious/selfish and immature hands.

Since in superhero comics a regular bully is going to get their shit kicked in, basically the only strategy left to achieve an intimidating kid villain is having the kid be extremely powerful (Joffrey in GoT has political power, Anthony from the "It's a Good Life" Twilight Zone episode has godlike power), which can make dealing with them very difficult/unbelievable for many heroes, because they need to be threatening from power alone and not strategy.

Ironically from that perspective, someone like Maka works as a villain to someone like Caroline. They're both ostensibly competing for recognition, but Maka can go, "I can steal all the effort you ever put into training instantly and beat the crap out of you because I'm super and you're not," and there's not shit Caroline can do about it besides call out for help and hope somebody stronger than Maka shows up to rescue her. If Maka enjoys being a bully, everyone else in the dojo is fucked.

And even then, when your whole narrative thrust is meant to be heroic and saving/protecting people, "saving the kid from a self-destructive, evil path" is a hard thing to exclude from that. Part of a kid villain's arc, if given long enough, can easily be redemption, because growing up and learning to be a better person is (ideally) an important part of childhood in general, and one an MC who is already a hero as a kid can't explore as well without regressing first.
Anonymous No.150065626 >>150066132
>>150031838
holy fuck those are NOT the quads of a child
Anonymous No.150066132
>>150065626
She's a very special child, that's why she looks like that.
Anonymous No.150067014 >>150067077 >>150067249
Anonymous No.150067077
>>150067014
>Spider-Boy
>Rated T
Comic book ratings are weird
Anonymous No.150067249
>>150067014
>legs extending to the black detailing on the rest of the suit
Alright I kinda dig her costume design now that I've noticed this.

Her pigtails being all scraggly doesn't look nearly as good (gives her a sort of "severely balding middle-aged man letting the sides grow out" look in a few images in this thread).
Anonymous No.150067427 >>150067744 >>150067782 >>150067885
>>150064010
Yep, but this is kid supes in general especially with marvel. They can't fathom keeping them kids and then they go from kid spiderman into just another spider person. Like spiderling it makes them irrelevant, think how many kid/teen heroes grew up into just young adults or adults
>>150065509
Yeah true, though most kid villians would realistically stay evil since not much to make them stop

Yeah this is what I was saying basically people are too naive to just enjoy evil kids. Also bullies are a easy way to do it, and really idk what be extreme for kid, make a kid a rapist boom he or she is killable.

Honestly this was what I thought they were gonna do with franklin richards, have him go "it's a good life" but they never truly did go that far. Yeah could be one of those we have to kill them as they are too dangerous and naive not to could be the theme, maybe kid hero wants to stop them normally and others want to kill. So a bit of idealism verse harsh realism, can't be stopped normally. Also this is mostly just US problem many euro and eastern comics do a great job of making kid/teen heroes and villians. Literally most shounen or seinen have at least 2 great kid villians who feel like they deserve a beat down *cough* maka
Anonymous No.150067744 >>150067808
>>150067427
Maka does deserve a beatdown.
Anonymous No.150067782 >>150068498 >>150069472 >>150069979
>>150065509
>>150067427
YES! you get it anon and I very much brought this up a thread or so ago.True really in a way maka is just a asshole and they do have a good parrallel going. Caroline, a hard working girl that goes to extra training and works after class to keep improving embodies hard work, While maka personifies arrogance and prodigies, she's basically the most op street tier right now with her power that if she can copy storm makes her even close to low level omega mutant. She is busted asf and has no drawbacks steals someones hard work. If caroline was the mc, could see a joke being maka loses because maybe she doesn't have the body to pull off some of her moves like a bit to short so her reach fails her, or maybe she gets a bit pudgy because of how lazy her powers make her. Also caroline is the hero

True just prefer a evil kid or two love me a creepy kid, like sadako or elyon etc. But in the end I get it just feel can not do it everytime.
Anonymous No.150067808
>>150067744
Exactly, hope Caroline can be the one to give it. An hope it's really humiliating
Anonymous No.150067885 >>150068101
>>150067427
>Literally most shounen or seinen have at least 2 great kid villians
I don't know about Euro kid comics but I have seen plenty of shounen and seinen kid villains. They're just the generic bully archetype >90% of the time, it's definitely not a problem specific to American comics.

Even the rivals (which I assume you're probably thinking about here - not something I'd put in as villains, and exists globally in comics, but there are some high profile ones in manga) are often barely distinguishable from your standard fare bully, and rivalry is one of the only ways such a character would even get an appreciable arc in shounen.
Anonymous No.150068101
>>150067885
Oh never said they weren't bullies, but they are evil like genuine evil. Like usually they have some depth but they are irredeemably fucked up, like takopi sin that girl was pretty evil just that she is rare one that got redemption.

Also to be fair most villians fall into the same archeteypes more about depth and how you use them.

I think that's another thing they do the rival thing well, most comics do kid rivals or teen rivals quite poorly. Not saying all bad like flash thompson was always a fave teen bully/rival that got a great arc in fact wish more people would give him praise. But was more just saying overally they are willing to make them unapolegtically evil, they are the types to stomp puppies to death or genuinely do heinous stuff outside of just wedgies. Like manwha and manga bullies be real life inhumans sometimes and it's sadly realistic with some fucked kids and teens. One of my fave seinen's I read was about some kids basically trying to cover up a murder mostly to save their asses and they were quite irredeemable
Anonymous No.150068498 >>150069656
>>150067782
I like the ideas here, but I think Maka's just gonna be fit generally. She's quite active.

Realistically the only way I see Caroline winning is Maka either not cheating or recognizing the advantage she has over Caroline and being altruistic about it. Maybe there's a story in there about Maka learning that, learning to respect other human beings, learning to be more kind in general. There are some ugly ways you could get there, too, like Maka accidentally crippling (or killing) someone she thinks of as nominally a friend. Even if she knows how to use the powers, does she know how much damage Caroline can actually take?

That said, one of the new kid mutants in Uncanny X-Men (Jitter) literally crippled a child for life (a dehumanized bully, of course) and it was glossed over in the span of a page, so YMMV.

...Funnily enough Jitter's whole thing is ALSO plagiarism of expertise everyone else has to put in effort to learn, except Jitter's is super temporary, and only one set of expertise at a time. (Jitter isn't very useful and her power is only really notable while she's still a kid and tapping into adult expertise - it'll get less and less useful the older she gets and the more actual experience she gains).
Anonymous No.150069020
Anonymous No.150069472 >>150069656 >>150069793 >>150071891
>>150067782
I think the best thing to do would have been to keep Maka arrogant and haughty. Keep Caroline kind of arrogant too but the contrast is that Caroline has kind of earned her arrogance through hard work so she has reason to be prideful vs. Maka who's only ever cheated. Likewise, Maka's a bit more flippant about being a hero and just feels "yeah, I got these powers so I can do it" vs. Caroline who, like the first issue, doesn't hesistate to try and help despite having no powers because hey, she's an awesome karate girl which means she should protect people if she can.

Basically Caroline's role in the book should be bigger and more emphasis placed on the ways that both her and Maka mirror and oppose one another and how that forces Maka to grow and change.
Anonymous No.150069656 >>150069793 >>150071891
>>150068498
Why I said if caroline was mc, because basically in the idea maka would be well more lazy just a idea of how I could see portrayed. Think about it she's really only active because mc and heroism, plus more was playing on bratty idea. Not fat fat more like not in the best shape because well she's a kid with everything, why work out when you can steal a bodybuilders strength, why practice gymnastics when you can just steal a olympic level gymnast skills.

Jeez not caroline, also really was my idea on it. Basically mixing in subtle things like caroline being in better physical shape or making her moves based on her size etc. Maybe wins via reach or unique things that would take her physique. But really the main reason maka kind of sucks power wise is the fact she not only get the skills but also the mental outline and knowledge as well which is kind of busted asf. Do think her hurting someone would probably be interesting but I feel she needs some level of humbling someone beating her
humiliatingly in something she thought she was good at

Jeez why do the x men suck so much now, they are glorified eugenic schizo's "WE ARE HOMO-SUPERIOR" Like wtf have the x-men become less we forget krakoa and "Green". The X-men are really insane and proving why people want to kill the mutants.Also sad design looks cute but really is basically just maka but much weaker.

Huh interesting does she at least get muscle memory? also really this should be maka's power instead as fits a kid and could work in humbling. Imagine she copies sensei so she can beat caroline but slowly caroline gets better then 1 min isn't enough then caroline starts outlasting her powers.
>>150069472
I mean is Caroline arrogant? the teacher likes her the other kids seem to similarly be wary of maka. Also it's said she entered a tournament last second and mopped the floor with everyone even caroline also she pretty smug when she wins. We actually only see caroline be a good kid
Anonymous No.150069793 >>150071891 >>150073190
>>150069472
>>150069656
Couldn't finish

I imagine it's unintentional for her to be basically the better version of maka. I imagine she also good in school too, she seems diligent and honest. She even still won't perform illegal moves to beat maka, she the type to want to win by the books.

The more we talk caroline the more I want to see of her. Really prefer her over beba, she hasn't really done much to make me like oh wow. I think ironically could be interesting if caroline goes evil but then as a anon said she'll get degraded to just a evil or bully gone evil and get the beat down. But if they handled it well she gets pissed after learning maka is a mutant and basically using her powers to humilate and abuse her.

That or caroline catches maka powerless since their are a few ways to depower mutants temporarily like the collars, the negation bullets, the disease that temporarily takes their power. Caroline catches her ass lacking
Anonymous No.150069979 >>150070742
>>150067782
Imagine Caroline just start slapping her pussy in front of everyone
Anonymous No.150070742 >>150072028 >>150075599 >>150076525
>>150069979
Based anon, that brat needs some abuse from a good girl. you'll be pleasantly surprised

>https://files.catbox.moe/q74hiu.jpg
Anonymous No.150071891
>>150069656
>>150069793
I think you can still accomplish what >>150069472 is talking about without having to change the MC.

Caroline as the MC is such a nonstarter in a spider book it's hard to take the rest of your suggestions seriously, despite the fact most of your suggestions sound like improvements over what is currently a relatively meh Spider-Person comic.
Anonymous No.150072028 >>150074407
>>150070742
i've now discovered i have a deep dislike for facial bruises on a child

thanks for helping me learn that about myself, anon
Anonymous No.150073190 >>150074407
>>150069793
>memory foam flesh
funny every time i see it
Anonymous No.150073793 >>150074870
>>150043738
Spider-Boobs
Anonymous No.150074154 >>150074334 >>150076999
>>149964727
How and why did this guy go from henchman to kingpin levels of "I'm knvoldedeke,,e
Anonymous No.150074334
>>150074154
He beat up his daughter while Spider-Man took down the Kate Bishop's hag rival, so he became the boss of crime by default.
Anonymous No.150074407
>>150072028
Damn, welp still surpised
>>150073190
The best way to show the classic delay impacted, wonder who truly started this in art?
Anonymous No.150074870
>>150073793
The best kind of Spider-Boobs!
Anonymous No.150075139 >>150076045
>>150056752
10/10!
But seriously, we need more art.
And a better origin.
Anonymous No.150075599
>>150070742
Hot.
Anonymous No.150076045
>>150075139
Nah, her origin is fine.
Anonymous No.150076525
>>150070742
ToT
Anonymous No.150076999
>>150074154
Wells happened.
Anonymous No.150077692 >>150078132 >>150080217 >>150081247
Anonymous No.150078132 >>150078242 >>150079098 >>150080217 >>150082009
>>150077692
Strange how much they emphasized her having pronounced lips. Definitely gave her the DSL
Anonymous No.150078196 >>150078231
>>149964430 (OP)
Haven't seen paper doll since brand new day

Pete kept calling her kills acme steamrollet victims
Anonymous No.150078231
>>150078196
That does feel like what peter would call them honestly, wonder if they'll fight again or if it was just meant to be a maka loss?
Anonymous No.150078233
>>149979175
He's still allowed to hate it lol

I love multiverse shit but you dont see me freaking out because the average person hates it

Chillax
Anonymous No.150078242 >>150078372 >>150078748
>>150078132
It's funny that with all the cancel culture... they are puting desings that would be called racist in the 90's
Anonymous No.150078372
>>150078242
lol, yeah it's quite crazy especially since most black people in the US don't look like this on average because they are way less pure african than they want to admit. Like the designs unironically are so try hard to make them look "different" that they end up not even looking like the average black person but really bad caricutures. I remember seeing a twitter artist that refused to draw black girls without naps and poorly kempt hair because that's the standard of beauty in Africa as if they aren't like that because they don't have hair care products or tools for it.

Always funny because the artist of this stuff is either a white girl, or black girl that looks nothing like the girls and guys they design.
Anonymous No.150078748
>>150078242
was that design considered racist? just looks kinda cartoony with exaggerated regular human proportions to me
Anonymous No.150079098 >>150080200
>>150078132
I think the artist was just a pervert.
Anonymous No.150080177 >>150085904
Anonymous No.150080200
>>150079098
Based
Anonymous No.150080217 >>150080611
>>150077692
>>150078132
She’s Polynesian. And need to show it.
I’m glad they aren’t giving her thin white girl lips
Anonymous No.150080611
>>150080217
I do feel like she feels polynesian and not just black, hope they don't fuck her like some poc characters and eventually just make her "not" black design wise. Especially if her series being cancelled is true and she's already meeting storm
Anonymous No.150081247 >>150083149
>>150077692
Hot lips.
Anonymous No.150082009 >>150085039
>>150078132
Would kiss.
Anonymous No.150083149 >>150085039
>>150081247
M.A.S.H.ka Akana
Anonymous No.150083723 >>150084504 >>150084860
Anonymous No.150084504
>>150083723
SEXO.
Anonymous No.150084860
>>150083723
>"WHERE'S THAT REDHEADED TWINK, IT'S MY TURN"
Anonymous No.150085039 >>150085589
>>150082009
This maka probably bites
>>150083149
I want to know what it means but feel like it's sus
Anonymous No.150085589 >>150085879
>>150085039
Hot Lips was a character on the show M.A.S.H.
Anonymous No.150085879
>>150085589
Huh never knew that crazy
Anonymous No.150085904 >>150086828
>>150080177
>standing on a statue of Jay Garrick on a Marvel cover
they have no shame!
i know it's Mercury but it's funnier if it isn't
Anonymous No.150086828
>>150085904
Silly anon, Max Mercury doesn't wear a helmet like that.