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Anonymous No.150438808 [Report] >>150438847 >>150438984 >>150438990 >>150439130 >>150439196 >>150439841 >>150442825 >>150442893 >>150442900 >>150444068 >>150444326 >>150445732 >>150445752 >>150446699 >>150447380 >>150447422 >>150452721 >>150459516
How can this show be so ass that the fanfics are better?
Anonymous No.150438847 [Report] >>150438966 >>150439157 >>150442900 >>150446699
>>150438808 (OP)
It was made by Texan gamer weebs. What were you expecting?
Anonymous No.150438879 [Report] >>150438935 >>150438966 >>150440936 >>150446804
>the fanfics are better
Prove it.
Anonymous No.150438935 [Report] >>150438950 >>150445764
>>150438879
Yang still likes boys.
Anonymous No.150438950 [Report] >>150438972
>>150438935
You need to get a life.
Anonymous No.150438966 [Report] >>150452778
>>150438847
>It was made by Texan gamer weebs.
Monty was the only weeb. The others just wanted to make their own Avatar but gayer.
>>150438879
>Prove it.
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/13853215/1/The-Choices-We-Make
Anonymous No.150438972 [Report]
>>150438950
I dun wanna
Anonymous No.150438984 [Report]
>>150438808 (OP)
its helluva boss/hazbin hotel before vivziepop started to make those series
Anonymous No.150438990 [Report]
>>150438808 (OP)
I would like to see more of her they send it to kill the off the way they did and then the guys like l we suggest blame the people who defend everyone of assassinating her despite the fact they have no reason to kill her because they let furnace in all the time to become Hunters.
Anonymous No.150439130 [Report] >>150439143
>>150438808 (OP)
Not a high bar
But also, idk
I've read fanfics for, say, asoiaf that have actually good prose. I have read enjoyable RWBY fanfics but nothing with actually good prose
Anonymous No.150439143 [Report] >>150439188 >>150439223 >>150447757
>>150439130
>good prose
Bro, I don't care about that shit. I just want a solid entertaining story with endearing characters.
Anonymous No.150439157 [Report] >>150439190 >>150439267 >>150439306 >>150439406 >>150439431 >>150447752 >>150458672
>>150438847
>Texan gamer weebs
Miles and Kerry weren't even weebs, which is part of why it's so ass
Also it's remarkable how much better miles was at writing rvb than rwby
Anonymous No.150439188 [Report] >>150439328 >>150448552
>>150439143
>I don't want my written media to be well written
Anonymous No.150439190 [Report]
>>150439157
>Also it's remarkable how much better miles was at writing rvb than rwby
Because it's more his speed. He's completely out of his element with RWBY.
Anonymous No.150439196 [Report] >>150439255 >>150447492
>>150438808 (OP)
The thing you gotta understand about RWBY is that it was always just meant to be a passion project for Monty. It was greenlit back when Burnie was still in control of Roosterteeth as effectively a "gift" to monty for all his excellent work he had done on Red vs Blue. However by the time the show actually started going into production, Burnie had step down from CEO and this caused a rift in the direction of the series. As you now had a conflict of interest as to what each side wanted RWBY to be.

Roosterteeth wanted RWBY to be like an actual franchise/product that they could sell.

Monty just wanted a vehicle for him to show off his anime fight scenes.

What Monty wanted from the show is why RWBY has so many of it's problems. Monty didn't give that much of a shit about the actual story of the show. All he cared about were the fight scenes, anime girls and the transforming weapons. Hell he fucking used a splat of ketchup as the basis for Remnant's world.

This complete lack of interest is a big reason why the writing sucks. Obviously he didn't do the writing, but what writers that were assigned he just gave them a list of anime to watch to get an idea of what his vague ideas were. Thus resulting in alot of anime tropes/cliches that are omnipresent from the start of the show (for example ruby being a gothic lolita type but uses a comically large weapon), in truth what Monty had indirectly done was make the perfect setup for an anime parody series.

This is why I think RWBY Chibi worked so well, the series already had the skeleton of a parody, however instead of embracing it, they took it 100% seriously, writing flaws and all.

It's no wonder Miles and Kerry could never fix the series, it was flawed from the start. Didn't help when Monty would just add shit to scenes or change things and the writers then had to accommodate for the changes last minute.
Anonymous No.150439223 [Report] >>150439274 >>150439346 >>150442161
>>150439143
I'm not going to read your shit if the vocabulary is cringe. I yelled at a Naruto fic writer a year ago for writing kids like they were 4chan posters.
Anonymous No.150439255 [Report] >>150439324 >>150442953 >>150443975 >>150453795 >>150460264
>>150439196
>Monty didn't give that much of a shit about the actual story of the show.
Dude, the Maidens literally came from him because he had a hard-on for Final Fantasy 8. So much of it is just FF8 but worse.
Anonymous No.150439267 [Report] >>150439355
>>150439157
>sword art online
>over fucking gurren lagann
Anonymous No.150439274 [Report]
>>150439223
>I'm not going to read your shit if the vocabulary is cringe
For saying bro and shit? My guy, go outside. Quit being a weird fuck.
Anonymous No.150439306 [Report] >>150439388
>>150439157
> how much better miles was at writing rvb than rwby
I liked season 11 and there were parts of season 12 I thought were good, but season 13 was really dumb and weighed down by bad ideas. I think Dumbass was just crutching on pre-established material that mostly understands its tone rather than whatever cargo cult RWBY was trying to be.
Anonymous No.150439324 [Report] >>150439373
>>150439255
That's my point anon. He just grabbed whatever shit he liked and shoved it into his story. It wasn't done with any thought it just served the ultimate purpose of "how can I make this fight more epic?"

The entire concept of semblances only exists to serve this purpose. The maidens do the same.
Anonymous No.150439328 [Report]
>>150439188
Bro, I ain't a fucking nerd with his head up his ass. I just wanna be entertained for a bit.
Anonymous No.150439346 [Report] >>150439389
>>150439223
There's like tiers to it too
There's actual garbage tier, where the author is obviously either young, completely inept, or an obvious ESL. Weirdly constructed sentences, ESL tells so obvious that you can figure out what his native language is, dialogue that just doesn't flow, stuff writing, shit that at the very best needs a couple of passes over by an editor
Then there's readable tier, where the writing is technically fine just sorta flat. The fic might be memorable for scenarios or references but it's nothing special
But occasionally you run into something that's actually well written. Either the author is legitimately funny, or can actually write well
These three tiers are very very highly correlated with overall fic quality
Anonymous No.150439355 [Report]
>>150439267
You need to understand that nobody at Roosterteeth was an anime fan. Oum just dumped a bunch of shows on their lap as homework and told them "This is what I want to make".
Anonymous No.150439373 [Report] >>150439431
>>150439324
>The entire concept of semblances only exists to serve this purpose. The maidens do the same.
Why have the maidens if semblances exist? Just make stronger semblances. Or come up with classifications for semblances that determine how powerful and dangerous they are.
Anonymous No.150439388 [Report]
>>150439306
His episode in 10 is one of the best episodes of the best season of the show
I enjoyed 11-13, watching 13 week by week was legitimately very fun. Yeah it rushed itself to the last arc and the fights were mediocre but it was still a solid run of seasons
Anonymous No.150439389 [Report] >>150439419
>>150439346
>But occasionally you run into something that's actually well written. Either the author is legitimately funny, or can actually write well
Yeah, and they're called "unicorns", because THEY DON'T EXIST.
Anonymous No.150439406 [Report] >>150439432
>>150439157
This reminds me of the RT Podcast where Kerry tried explaining Persona to Geoff and Gus and the look of sheer disgust they gave him was hilarious
Anonymous No.150439419 [Report]
>>150439389
Like I said above, there's a couple of legitimately well written asoiaf fics out there, I guess that property just attracts better writers for fan works. Makes sense I guess
Anonymous No.150439431 [Report] >>150439466 >>150439476 >>150439508
>>150439157
Because unlike RWBY, RvB is just halo fanfiction. Literally all the major concepts from Red vs Blue are just elements that already exist in Halo, just altered a bit to fit their story.

So you take the halo things and combine them with some comedy writing and you have red vs blue.

>>150439373
Because you gotta have power escalation.
Anonymous No.150439432 [Report]
>>150439406
Kerry's the type of retard to recommend monogatari to someone who's never watched anime before
Anonymous No.150439466 [Report] >>150439547
>>150439431
>Because you gotta have power escalation.
Stronger semblances. Simple. Or transformations. Basic battle shonen shit.
Anonymous No.150439476 [Report] >>150439547 >>150439652
>>150439431
> Because you gotta have power escalation
How about you actually fucking use the ideas you already have instead of tossing in every single new idea you get the moment it comes to mind
Anonymous No.150439508 [Report] >>150439582
>>150439431
I feel like there's some escalation steps they skipped over between civil rights terrorists and immortal queen of evil though.
Anonymous No.150439547 [Report] >>150439652 >>150444099
>>150439466
>>150439476
Ruby also has silver eyes that give her special powers. That is different from her semblance.
Anonymous No.150439582 [Report] >>150439650 >>150439715
>>150439508
The Civil Rights thing gets forgotten once Blake's crazy ex boyfriend dies.
Anonymous No.150439638 [Report] >>150446862
What rwby fics are you guys reading?
I'm enjoying Remnant Light
Anonymous No.150439650 [Report] >>150439737
>>150439582
Just another layup they fucked up for no reason. You have a perfectly fine brooding and edgy terrorist for a mid tier reoccurring antagonist and you toss him aside for carpet muncher bait.
Anonymous No.150439652 [Report] >>150439823
>>150439476
This one youtuber came up with this idea to have Penny, Sun, Velvet and Cardin on the same team to avoid character bloat and streamline the story. Having Cardin and Velvet as partners could've been interesting, along with Sun and Penny as a sort of reference to Goku and Arale, both Toriyama creations.
>>150439547
>Ruby also has silver eyes that give her special powers
It's just a flashbang, bro.
Anonymous No.150439715 [Report] >>150439734
>>150439582
It's very funny how they accidentally made Adam too cool in the trailer and then just made him an uncle ex
Anonymous No.150439734 [Report] >>150445904
>>150439715
Anonymous No.150439737 [Report] >>150439787 >>150439898
>>150439650
>You have a perfectly fine brooding and edgy terrorist for a mid tier reoccurring antagonist and you toss him aside for carpet muncher bait.
Dude never met Weiss. Imagine her seeing the branding, but nah. Blake's dumb bitch VA wanted to vent about her ex at the expense of the characters and setting.
Anonymous No.150439787 [Report]
>>150439737
Anonymous No.150439823 [Report] >>150439976
>>150439652
>This one youtuber
Celtic Phoenix is a reaction drama parasite.
Anonymous No.150439841 [Report] >>150439895
>>150438808 (OP)
Three things.
>No plans. It started as a passion project and then lost all its passion when the mad genius behind it died. All that was left were egomaniacs and virtue signalers.
>Modular design. The setting and characters were built for pitch appeal and not for any kind of planned narrative, so being a major source of fanfic was guaranteed.
>They aren't. At least not all of them, it's the sheer vastness of the setting and lack of real competition from the source that makes it look so pronounced.
Anonymous No.150439895 [Report] >>150439976 >>150440028
>>150439841
>virtue signalers
The people who make up RT are right-leaning dudebros who believe in nothing.
Anonymous No.150439898 [Report]
>>150439737
>Why weren't Ruby and Weiss on opposite teams? They were obvious rivals. Literally her Draco Malfoy.
>Blake should've still been part of the White Fang, with her going to Beacon to assassinate Weiss
>Having Weiss and Blake as partners should've been a no-brainer. Whole lot of juicy conflict there.
>maybe make Adam Jacques Schnee's bastard, creating an interesting dynamic between him and Weiss. That way, the 3 are brought into each other's bullshit for a better story.
Anonymous No.150439976 [Report] >>150440093
>>150439823
>Celtic Phoenix
Different youtuber.
>>150439895
>The people who make up RT are right-leaning dudebros who believe in nothing
You got actual autism if you believe that. They were just a bunch of millenial dweebs pretending to be dudebros. They're nerds.
Anonymous No.150440028 [Report] >>150440083
>>150439895
>RT are right-leaning dudebros
I see this take sometimes from tumblr and I have literally never understood it
they are generic austinite libs
like, maybe the old heads like matt and burnie were quietly conservative but probably not, joel was the token actual conservative
but the younger generation? 100% liberal, and this only accelerated once rt got a "le young hip queer" fanbase
Anonymous No.150440083 [Report] >>150440114
>>150440028
>I see this take sometimes from tumblr and I have literally never understood it
Because one guy called somebody a faggot so RT's "literally hitler".
Anonymous No.150440093 [Report] >>150440244
>>150439976
>You got actual autism if you believe that
You saw all the same shit as I have. Tell me they believe in anything after watching them copy the Equalists in Korra and completely fail to understand they were already a bad idea in the material they were stealing from.
Anonymous No.150440114 [Report]
>>150440083
the whole kdin thing was so funny because, yeah michael and gavin called him fuggs as short for faggot but also he fucking loved racist humor himself, so it's a classic case of millennial libs falling out and then backstabbing each other over jokes they used to all be chill with
Anonymous No.150440165 [Report]
How is this for guys if the leads are all girls?
Anonymous No.150440244 [Report] >>150440333
>>150440093
Bro, you're autistic. They're just shit writers.
Anonymous No.150440245 [Report] >>150440273
Apologize
Anonymous No.150440273 [Report]
>>150440245
why would I apologize when I never doubted him?
Anonymous No.150440333 [Report] >>150440350
>>150440244
Believing in nothing and being cowardly bellweathers is part of what makes them shit writers.
Anonymous No.150440350 [Report] >>150440433
>>150440333
that doesn't make them right leaning you retard
Anonymous No.150440433 [Report] >>150440528
>>150440350
They're from Texas and they don't pay their labor.
Anonymous No.150440528 [Report]
>>150440433
>They're from Texas and they don't pay their labor.
You're retarded.
Anonymous No.150440784 [Report] >>150440841 >>150441288
So is Volume 10 dead (also calling it volumes rather than seasons is dumbs. At best, it supposed to play into the book theme.)
Anonymous No.150440841 [Report] >>150444160
>>150440784
>So is Volume 10 dead
It's in the writing and planning stages. Still hasn't been greenlit, so there's no production.
Anonymous No.150440936 [Report]
>>150438879
Wise as an Old Qrow
Legit made me like Raven as a character
Anonymous No.150440958 [Report] >>150440998 >>150441631
>nuked Vale off-screen
>has half of the relics
>the only kingdom she didn't touch is a desert shithole that was already suffering from resource shortages before they got an influx of refugees
>the world's most powerful military is practically gone
>and no one STILL has any idea on how to stop her
SALEM WON
Anonymous No.150440998 [Report] >>150445506
>>150440958
>Tyrian: "Incredible work my goddess"
>Salem: "Tyrian I didn't do shit"
Anonymous No.150441288 [Report]
>>150440784
Avatar.
Anonymous No.150441631 [Report] >>150452868
>>150440958
the whole point of salem is strength will bring them no victory but no ones figured that out. they gotta do some different bs.
Anonymous No.150442161 [Report] >>150442303
>>150439223
>I yelled at a Naruto fic writer
That's sad. You could just read something else.
Anonymous No.150442303 [Report]
>>150442161
He was shilling his fic in a storytime thread on /a/. Felt tempted to look since I had nothing better to do.
Anonymous No.150442825 [Report]
>>150438808 (OP)
because RWBY is pulling from Monty's love of shonen anime, fighting games, and Squeenix JRPGs while making it easy to self-insert into, and giving it its own unique identity

>Final Fantasy 7 + 8 but smashed together with Soul Eater and Bleach, and then fairy tales + alchemy

the only real error Monty and the writers made was pulling from ATLA and LOTR, and then not making the story more like a traditional JRPG or pulling from Evangelion and Twin Peaks (the two things that inspired every JRPG and anime that Monty loved by proxy or by sheer power of indirect or direct influence)

if RWBY ever gets a reboot, it needs to be more psychological and melodramatic, more like a mystery story, and embrace its JRPG roots
Boco !sCZ24qY6KY No.150442847 [Report] >>150443800
Theres probably fanfics where Blake doesn't cut her hair.
Anonymous No.150442893 [Report]
>>150438808 (OP)
There are many such cases. Smallville. Stargate Atlantis. Stuff like that. Interesting characters and a fun cast dynamic are rocket fuel for fanfics, even when the actual show is dumb as a bunch of rocks.
Anonymous No.150442900 [Report] >>150448024
>>150438847
>>150438808 (OP)
Hey, stealing these thread posts. Can someone contact the fag mods on this board? They kill RWBY threads because they're jealous.They're faggot losers and don't like how much Aryan SOUL is in RWBY. Now that RoosterTeeth fags are dead, we need to be allowed to have RWBY threads. A RWBY thread a month ago was killed for no reason. Fuck these fag mods.
Anonymous No.150442953 [Report]
>>150439255
I am just now seeing the resemblance FF8.
I feel really stupid.
Anonymous No.150443800 [Report] >>150449443
>>150442847
Okay?
Anonymous No.150443975 [Report]
>>150439255
I'm not familiar with this game. Please connect the dots for me, which of these characters are were used to create RWBY characters?
Anonymous No.150444068 [Report]
>>150438808 (OP)
the base universe has the combination of both being interesting and vague (because the writers cant figure out their own lore) enough to have a good starting point for fanfics. the cast is already made up of self inserts as well as somehow making characters in their own show feel like fanfic OCs. since characters are based on fables, myths and children's stories, so you already have a basis to build your own characters from. fanfic is better than the show because the show isnt very good.

its actually why i find the show so fascinating and keep watching it despite knowing its not very good. there's enough potential and lots of ways they can take the story and character interactions, and yet they almost always fuck it up. you could technically argue that since Montys death, the whole show is already fanfiction itself.
Anonymous No.150444099 [Report]
>>150439547
don't forget that straight up magic is a real and entirely separate power in this universe.

as a side note, i do find it funny how Ruby never seemed to be interested in her eye powers and never bothered to ask about it.
Anonymous No.150444160 [Report]
>>150440841
i know they weren't exactly confident they were going to get a volume 10 at all (which kind of makes volume 9 even more strange), but id have assumed they would at least have had it written and story boarded before now.
Anonymous No.150444326 [Report] >>150445721
>>150438808 (OP)
As someone who's read and written fanfics for multiple different shows and communities I'm generally not a fan of that sentiment because a fanfic has so many less rules, restrictions, and requirements and is already borrowing 90% of its material. The hard part has already been done for you. So there are some great fics out there and RWBY is a flawed at best series but this is still something I don't like to say about any show. Unless it's one of the truly bad shows/properties out there which I don't believe RWBY to be, it's not that awful.
Anonymous No.150445506 [Report]
>>150440998
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUAusGiRqOU
Anonymous No.150445668 [Report]
They da best
Anonymous No.150445721 [Report]
>>150444326
It's definitely easier, but it's not effortless. The number of people who can write well and care to do fanfics isn't big, especially for actual rewrites. I've seen maybe 2 fics that could be considered RWBY rewrites and were actual improvements, and they still had flaws of their own. Same with other IPs.
Anonymous No.150445732 [Report] >>150445769 >>150448113 >>150448801
>>150438808 (OP)
Is Coeur still the best RWBY fanfic writer despite being the biggest Jaunefag?
the guy is a writing machine.
Anonymous No.150445752 [Report]
>>150438808 (OP)
was just a conduct for Monty's autism. also trump broke them. Hail Ironwood
Anonymous No.150445764 [Report] >>150445772 >>150447076 >>150447150
>>150438935
but Yang is made for Weiss
Anonymous No.150445769 [Report] >>150445777 >>150448801
>>150445732
Couer is not a Jaunefag and doesn't like Jaune. The most popular Jaune writers - Couer, Selene Sokal, CyanideSins - do not, in fact, like Jaune at all. He is just useful.

Couer is still the most consistent RWBY writer still but he is not the best. I would say there are a few who can take that spot like Erised or the aforementioned Selene (who, despite not liking Jaune, can actually write him well) but it mostly depends on genre. Or even what type of relationships you are looking for, as those two tend to prefer harems...as do the most popular authors for obvious reasons.
Anonymous No.150445772 [Report] >>150445775
>>150445764
Weiss is made for Jaune.
Anonymous No.150445775 [Report] >>150445781
>>150445772
Jaune is made for the meatgrinder and his fans alongside him
Anonymous No.150445777 [Report]
>>150445769
To me the funniest thing about Couer's fics is he had made so many AU Jaune fanfics he literally had enough of them to pit them against each other in a battle royale fic, I just am always amused by fanfic crossovers with other fanfics.
Oh also how he almost never lets Pyrrha win, funniest shit.
Anonymous No.150445781 [Report] >>150445787
>>150445775
Jaune is based and yang is made to be a seething old catlady
Anonymous No.150445787 [Report] >>150445796 >>150445809
>>150445781
you jaunefags make personnality traits up for him. He's a fucking bore, as expected of Miles self-insert.
Anonymous No.150445796 [Report] >>150445800
>>150445787
Seething
Anonymous No.150445800 [Report]
>>150445796
>a litteral /trash/man tries to act mighty
Anonymous No.150445809 [Report]
>>150445787
>t.
Anonymous No.150445815 [Report] >>150445823 >>150445884
>gets trapped in a fantasy world for decades
>nothing but him years of crippling loneliness and grief
>but never gives into despair
>loyally waits for his friends to arrive so they can find a way home together
There really is no reason to make up personality traits for him, he's the absolute best bro and full of raw determination.
Anonymous No.150445823 [Report]
>>150445815
Who is making up personality traits for him? That's an accusation from some faggot chimping out
Anonymous No.150445884 [Report] >>150446526
>>150445815
We will get a series devoted to him.
It's only a matter of time.
>inb4 he already has a series devoted to him, it's called RWBY.
Anonymous No.150445904 [Report]
>>150439734
Kek, KGB really is just like RWBY. Peaks early, and then goes to shit.
Anonymous No.150446526 [Report] >>150448781
>>150445884
Should've just made the show about Jaune and Ruby. They would've worked better as partners anyway.
Anonymous No.150446699 [Report]
>>150438808 (OP)
>>150438847
Reminder that this was the "talent" Roosterteeth was working with https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsxnOkq07cc
Anonymous No.150446804 [Report]
>>150438879
There’s RWBeyond. It had a better origin for Ozpin and Salem, and had most of the characters in straight pairings.
Anonymous No.150446862 [Report]
>>150439638
Honkers
Anonymous No.150447076 [Report]
>>150445764
Yang is made for Jaune
Anonymous No.150447150 [Report] >>150447238 >>150447727
>>150445764
aye
Anonymous No.150447238 [Report] >>150447318
>>150447150
Ugh
Anonymous No.150447282 [Report]
I liked the Curious Cat
Anonymous No.150447318 [Report] >>150447727
>>150447238
Still better than Catpiss.
Anonymous No.150447380 [Report] >>150447434 >>150447443
>>150438808 (OP)
This is that show about the K-pop singers fighting demons or something right? And they’re all lesbians?
Anonymous No.150447422 [Report] >>150447457
>>150438808 (OP)
Because it hits that perfect sweet spot where it’s got a good enough premise, interesting enough world, and entertaining enough characters to drive engagement, but flubs the execution poorly enough that it leaves fans feeling unfulfilled but not scorned. Thus, fanfiction flourishes.
Anonymous No.150447434 [Report]
>>150447380
Stop looking at twitter and tumblr
Anonymous No.150447443 [Report]
>>150447380
You're thinking of symphogear
Anonymous No.150447457 [Report]
>>150447422
Scarletposter breaking containment
Anonymous No.150447473 [Report]
If RWBY comes back I hope they let Yang have boobs again
Anonymous No.150447492 [Report] >>150447506
>>150439196
>The thing you gotta understand about RWBY is that it was always just meant to be a passion project for Monty. It was greenlit back when Burnie was still in control of Roosterteeth as effectively a "gift" to monty for all his excellent work he had done on Red vs Blue.
This is a half-truth but it's basically confirmed at this point that Burnie had definitely seen RWBY as a potential market due to the weeb market having still gone untapped
Anonymous No.150447506 [Report] >>150447613
>>150447492
Yeah, Burnie didn't get anime (uoh that's my uncuru) but knew it was a market
And that's fine, they just grabbed the gay and retarded part of the western anime community because they didn't know how the market worked
Anonymous No.150447598 [Report]
When I watch Ruby I can't get a sense of location, especially after the fall of Beacon. Where are these niggas, where are they going, what are they doing, etc.
Anonymous No.150447613 [Report]
>>150447506
>they just grabbed the gay and retarded part of the western anime community because they didn't know how the market worked
Exactly. Battle shounen is what sells, but the morons decided to make their leads all girls and put them in school. You know what else does that shit?
Anonymous No.150447616 [Report] >>150447752
I still hold the opinion that RWBY feels like if your school’s anime club was given a budget to make their own show.
Anonymous No.150447727 [Report] >>150447768
>>150447318
>>150447150
White Knight clears both
Anonymous No.150447752 [Report]
>>150447616
It's worse than that
A school anime club at least knows anime, the typical tropes and story beats
Miles and Kerry didn't even know anime >>150439157
Anonymous No.150447757 [Report] >>150447880
>>150439143
Prose makes stories flow better.
Mediocre to bad prose makes reading a chore
Anonymous No.150447768 [Report] >>150447809
>>150447727
Oohh I am the last of the dragonslayers
My people are gone from the earth...
Anonymous No.150447809 [Report]
>>150447768
Your people remain but catpiss made them very hateful.
Anonymous No.150447880 [Report] >>150448776
>>150447757
I just skim or listen to TTS. Reading's for white girls and nerds.
Anonymous No.150448024 [Report]
>>150442900
I was sooooooo drunk when I posted this. But ya, glad to see the thread is still up. Jannies need to stop killing RWBY threads since the show is dead.
Anonymous No.150448113 [Report] >>150448130
>>150445732
>the guy is a writing machine.
I agree, which is why I had to stop reading his stuff. He's so prolific that it actually HURTS his writing. I eventually got tired of getting into a plot only for him to eventually drop it completely because the fucker is juggling 5 stories at the same time with mandatory weekly updates, so inevitably he ends up forgetting shit or reinterpreting it because enough time has passed that he's gotten new ideas.

Lo and behold, just the other day I went to check back and it turns he had to quit his job because his doctor told him he was working himself to death, working a 9 to 5 then going straight to writing for years uninterrupted, and he was warned he wouldn't make it past his 50s at this rate. All of a sudden, all the mental lapses start making sense.
Anonymous No.150448130 [Report]
>>150448113
Couer will write himself into an early grave writing pure slop instead of good prompts like the Beacon Civil War
Anonymous No.150448204 [Report] >>150448277
If Ruby's Little Red Riding Hood, where's the Big Bad Wolf? Where are Weiss' 7 dwarves? Yang's 3 bears? If Adam's the Beast, then shouldn't he have been redeemed? People wanted him to be an anti-hero anyway.
Anonymous No.150448277 [Report] >>150448377
>>150448204
>where's the Big Bad Wolf?
Generic Beowolves as per her trailer though you can argue the Hound was a late addition to adress this.
>Where are Weiss' 7 dwarves?
Her stupid butler with 7 personalities.
> Yang's 3 bears?
The gan running the pub, why do you think the boss is called junior?
>If Adam's the Beast, then shouldn't he have been redeemed?
Bumblebee fandom too rabid to go against, so better to use Adam as toxic masculinity abusive BF in order to hook them up together.
Anonymous No.150448343 [Report] >>150448425 >>150448550 >>150452917 >>150460045
Jaune is fine but I don't think he needed to be a main character. I liked him in Volumes 1-3 and then he just gets too much focus after that. I like RWBY for Team RWBY.
Anonymous No.150448377 [Report] >>150460244
>>150448277
>you can argue the Hound was a late addition to adress this
Well they botched it. Damn thing had nothing to do with Ruby. Except for having silver eyes for some reason.
>Her stupid butler with 7 personalities.
Ugh, might as well just made them all robots or something.
>The gan running the pub, why do you think the boss is called junior?
What a waste.
>Bumblebee fandom too rabid to go against, so better to use Adam as toxic masculinity abusive BF in order to hook them up together.
That happened because Blake's VA wanted to vent about her ex and wanted to hook up with Yang's VA.
Anonymous No.150448401 [Report]
I love Ruby.
Anonymous No.150448425 [Report] >>150448719
>>150448343
>Jaune is fine but I don't think he needed to be a main character
If he ain't a lead, then RWBY's just a girl show. In other words, you're a https://youtu.be/mkf43ZhNyBg?si=7xYU5uCwwSC8-7CV&t=7
Anonymous No.150448550 [Report] >>150448666
>>150448343
Jaune is the best character in the show along with Weiss. Also the show was never just about team RWBY contrary to the name. They originally wanted to name it something else.
Jaune just gets better with each volume anyways.
Anonymous No.150448552 [Report] >>150448622
>>150439188
Anon.
Don't waste effort espousing the virtues of literacy to shitskins.
You're casting pearls before swine.
Anonymous No.150448622 [Report] >>150448776
>>150448552
>Don't waste effort espousing the virtues of literacy to shitskins.
https://youtu.be/IRsPheErBj8?si=5ySodtdGeI1nXL1b
Anonymous No.150448666 [Report] >>150448719 >>150448802
>>150448550
I liked him in Volumes 1-3, he was solid there, but he just became kind of a screen and drama hog after. He's fine. I don't understand the obsession with him the trash general has just as I don't understand the yuri obsession reddit has.
Anonymous No.150448719 [Report]
>>150448666
>but he just became kind of a screen and drama hog after. He's fine. I don't understand the obsession with him the trash general has
>>150448425
Anonymous No.150448776 [Report]
>>150447880
>>150448622
ESLs pretending that their inability to read makes them cool
Anonymous No.150448781 [Report] >>150448820
>>150446526
Lancaster should be endgame.
Anonymous No.150448801 [Report] >>150448817 >>150448926 >>150448969 >>150460045
>>150445732
>>150445769
>Coeur is a Jaunefag
>not necessarily, Jaune is just useful
I'll never understand after all this time why no one ever uses Ren for more than just a one-shot or side character shipping bait, even just as a writing experiment or a breath of fresh air. Jaune is useful, but as the closest approximation for the series of a male main character, he is hardly unique as becoming the sole center point of a fanfic community, with nearly all stories featuring a male main character being about him. Just dip a toe into the traditionally most notable ff communities, Harry Potter and Naruto, and one would see the extent to which all stories feature the male main character twisted into a thousand and one different interpretations that have nothing to do with the actual personality or ethos or at times even the appearance of the characters.
There are so many 'what if Harry Potter was literally anything but the character known as Harry Potter, but still had his name' fics. It couldn't be more clear that many Naruto writers just wanted to write Sasuke, but came up with some excuse to justify Naruto himself being the dark avenger who also happens to have all the eye powers and be the most attractive guy ever (bonus points if he is given red or black hair, no whisker marks, and an all around different design). All of fanfiction has a 'diversity issue' when it comes to choices of main character for their stories, even for the case of RWBY where the one being propped up as the main character of their community was not actually the main character of the series. One might figure that when these individuals start writing their fiction and realize that the character they actually want to write has far more in common with another pre-existing character than the pre-ordained MC, they would actually just make the story about the one which fits best. Or just make a whole OC with a backstory that fits whatever makes sense for the story they're telling.
Anonymous No.150448802 [Report]
>>150448666
Jaune becomes better as the series progresses though
And I don't see how he is a screen or a drama hog in, say, Volumes 7 and 8 for instance lol
He is never ever the center of attention there
And even in Volume 5 for instance, he is barely ever the center of attention
Anonymous No.150448817 [Report] >>150448908
>>150448801
Its because ren is a twink
Anonymous No.150448820 [Report] >>150448867 >>150449051
>>150448781
Naw, I don't think Ruby needs to end up with anyone. She just hasn't shown an interest in romance. Whiteknight is almost definitely endgame.
Anonymous No.150448867 [Report] >>150448967 >>150449051
>>150448820
>I don't think Ruby needs to end up with anyone. She just hasn't shown an interest in romance
Bro, fuck the actual show. Shit's ass. We're talking hypotheticals here.
Anonymous No.150448908 [Report] >>150448937
>>150448817
>Ren is a twink
knowing the average fanfic writer, that should just be more reason to write him
they love dark haired and brooding twinks
Anonymous No.150448926 [Report] >>150448952
>>150448801
>I'll never understand after all this time why no one ever uses Ren for more than just a one-shot or side character shipping bai
Ren is basically just another woman in the group, so soft and submissive that no one recognizes him as a man.
The only time he had any character, the writers made him look like a little bitch for saying something meaningful.
Anonymous No.150448937 [Report] >>150449001
>>150448908
>they love dark haired and brooding twinks
only if he demonstrates the strength to defend himself.
Anonymous No.150448949 [Report] >>150451467
Ruby is for Jaune
Weiss is for Jaune
Blake is for Jaune
Yang is for Jaune
Pyrrha is for Jaune
Nora is for Jaune
Yes, even Ren (forma de Rin) is for Jaune
Anonymous No.150448952 [Report]
>>150448926
>soft and submissive
Is he breedable too? Obviously the writers don't care, they barely care about Ruby herself some times, but what the writers don't care about has never stopped anyone before.
Anonymous No.150448967 [Report]
>>150448867
Then Whiterose.
Anonymous No.150448969 [Report] >>150449037
>>150448801
Why write about the asian twink instead of the tall, blonde blue eyed guy? Dude's just more appealing to people.
Anonymous No.150449001 [Report] >>150449223
>>150448937
>the strength to defend himself
No one thinks he or Nora are weak, just under represented both in canon and fanfiction. Even JNPR fics underutilize them.
Anonymous No.150449037 [Report] >>150449191
>>150448969
>less appealing = no appeal
The whole point was that out of literal 10s of thousands of fics, sheer basic probability should yield greater diversity of main characters to focus fics on. Ren was a minor example (but he is a character who deserves more attention), anything ranging from OCs to Sun to that assassin kid would make interesting different focal points to see more of (or at all).
Anonymous No.150449051 [Report] >>150449318
>>150448820
True and based

>>150448867
The show may generally be ass but White Knight is based
Anonymous No.150449191 [Report] >>150449273
>>150449037
>but he is a character who deserves more attention
We get it, ricecel. You just wanna self insert.
Anonymous No.150449223 [Report] >>150449273 >>150449310
>>150449001
>Even JNPR fics underutilize them.
Because they're nothing. They're just there to fill out the squad. They're filler. Jaune and Pyrrha are the important ones.
Anonymous No.150449260 [Report]
The problem with RWBY is that they didn't have any idea of what made a story and just mindlessly bashed classic anime scenes and tropes together like a toddler playing with rocks, hoping a plot would miraculously come out
Anonymous No.150449273 [Report] >>150449302 >>150449419
>>150449223
No those two characters who are the close personal friends and allies of Jaune and Pyrrha and the RWBY crew are not 'nothing'.
>>150449191
>gets mad over nothing
Weird out of pocket racial comments (which miss the mark) have no bearing on the point being made.
Anonymous No.150449302 [Report] >>150449406 >>150449419
>>150449273
They literally are. They don't have any actual relevance or role. They're Jaune's cheerleaders. You could cut them out and nothing in the actual story would change.
Hell, they're notably more halfassed then the rest of the team. They thought of Jaune as a Jeanne D'Arc thing, remembered Achilles crossdressed as a way to hide too and made his girlfriend, then they filled up space with vague references to Thor and Mulan because so did they. Didn't even bother actually making them fit the original.
Anonymous No.150449310 [Report]
>>150449223
I think Nora was one of the better handled main characters in Atlas.
Anonymous No.150449318 [Report] >>150449652
>>150449051
>The show may generally be ass but White Knight is based
I get the appeal. Dude's basically the Prince character who saves the main girl. Which i guess is the appeal with his ship with Cinder.
Anonymous No.150449406 [Report] >>150449452 >>150449519
>>150449302
That does not make them nothing, every series has side characters, which is what they are relative to the others. As such they have less focus and less development (but more than none), you are saying nothing new or unknown. The entire original point was about what makes sense for fanfiction and briefly mentioned Ren once as an example to showcase the lack of any other male main characters, despite fanfics featuring many instances of 'what if Jaune was an entirely different character in every sense besides name'. At that point, just use a different character more fitting for what the fic is trying to achieve (which could be many different members of the cast) or an OC.
Anonymous No.150449419 [Report] >>150449473 >>150449600
>>150449302
>They thought of Jaune as a Jeanne D'Arc thing
Why though? I thought the gimmick was fairy tales. That chick was a real person.
>>150449273
>Weird out of pocket racial comments
You're on 4chan, dipshit.
Boco !sCZ24qY6KY No.150449443 [Report] >>150449452
>>150443800

Which makes them a thousand times better than the show.
Anonymous No.150449449 [Report]
Why does every /co/ thread have to be incels projecting their sexual libido onto male protagonists
Anonymous No.150449452 [Report] >>150449463 >>150449515
>>150449406
Quit your sperging. No one cares about your shit character.
>>150449443
Bro, it's hair. It's not even visual.
Anonymous No.150449463 [Report]
>>150449452
Don't respond to Boco you fucking idiot. If he wanted a response, he would post anonymously.
Anonymous No.150449473 [Report]
>>150449419
most of the epic race bait on here at least usually gets paired with an actual point.
Anonymous No.150449515 [Report] >>150449781
>>150449452
>reee shut up about Ren
>mention Ren once in passing as a mere step to a larger point
>triggers several anons for reasons beyond me
It is literally you and a few others fixating on him. I should have just mentioned Torchwick or Oscar or someone else instead, maybe I would've have triggered less autism.
Anonymous No.150449519 [Report] >>150449565 >>150449713
>>150449406
Jaune is the boring audience self insert, obviously he gets lots of focus by the community. He's RWBY's Bella Swan. When people write fanfic of him Solving Racism, smashing the Grimm into orbit then fucking all the bitches, they essentially just wanted to do all of that with a self insert but didn't want to be THAT obviously masturbatory
Anonymous No.150449565 [Report]
>>150449519
>He's RWBY's Bella Swan
fucking kek, never heard that one before
Anonymous No.150449600 [Report]
>>150449419
>I thought the gimmick was fairy tales. That chick was a real person.
There are a shit ton of Grimm fairy tales they could've used. Iron John and Faithful John were right there. The former especially could've been cool since it's a coming of age story.
Anonymous No.150449652 [Report] >>150449866 >>150460448
>>150449318
Kind of. Jaune might in fact be partially based off that allusion all along. Weiss is based off both of them together, for instance.

There's also the fact that Jaune is the Rusted Knight in V9...a version of him which is based off the main protagonist of The Knight in Rusty Armor. And the love interest of the character there? A pale woman like a princess with white hair.
Anonymous No.150449697 [Report]
i fucking hate Jaune
useless bum ass
Anonymous No.150449713 [Report] >>150449762
>>150449519
You don't need to reference Twilight. There are millions of bland male self-inserts, see anime
Anonymous No.150449762 [Report]
>>150449713
>see generic animes
Yeah there are plenty of those, but as far as western references go, I'm wondering if that Fifty Shades of Grey chick could apply. For all the shit that got back in the day, I always thought even back then that there were probably thousands of fanfics in the same vein as the Jaune fics which were just as masturbatory and self indulgent.
Anonymous No.150449781 [Report] >>150449819
>>150449515
>Oscar
who?
Anonymous No.150449784 [Report] >>150450139
>make some shitty DC crossover movie
>but have Jaune and Jessica Cruz have great chemistry and a cute ship
>but then have him not show up in the second one, literally see Jess’ heartbroken face
>then with RWBY sold to Viz they are separated forever and can’t crossover again
Knight light is a far more tragic and compelling ship than Arkos ever was.
Anonymous No.150449819 [Report] >>150450122
>>150449781
Oscar Pine, aka little boy Ozma, aka that one kinda shota character that sometimes gets shipped with Ruby.
Anonymous No.150449866 [Report]
>>150449652
>There's also the fact that Jaune is the Rusted Knight in V9...a version of him which is based off the main protagonist of The Knight in Rusty Armor
If only they were more faithful to that story, but nah. They wanted to add all that dumb shit.
Anonymous No.150450122 [Report] >>150450379
>>150449819
oh...ozpin's meat puppet, I remember.
Anonymous No.150450139 [Report]
>>150449784
We may not have Jess, but we could have Olivia!
Anonymous No.150450140 [Report]
I felt fucking gay for involving myself with this shit. I felt fucking autistic.
Anonymous No.150450379 [Report] >>150450596 >>150457744
>>150450122
Yeah nobody gives a shit about him and he's introduced fairly late so no secondaries. Of course there's no fics of the dude.
Anonymous No.150450596 [Report]
>>150450379
>no fics of the dude
there's actually one or two about him and some of the gals in the audience like the kid for shipping (although a lot of outspoken ones think he's too young to be shipped because of age gap)
Anonymous No.150451467 [Report] >>150451924 >>150451982 >>150452589
>>150448949
NOBODY is for Jaune!
Anonymous No.150451924 [Report]
>>150451467
Not even me?
Anonymous No.150451982 [Report]
>>150451467
Anonymous No.150452589 [Report] >>150452790
>>150451467
Get back on the couch lesbo
Anonymous No.150452721 [Report] >>150453795 >>150453917 >>150455573
>>150438808 (OP)
Maybe a hot take but most of the problems with RWBY go all the way back to Monty himself. I mean this was a man who thought that FF7 was apogee of human works. Monty wanted the show to be basically written like a videogame, with the power systems being video game powerups/customization. And the character designs and lore to facilitate Donut Steel Self Insert creation like you're playing a fucking weeb MMO or something.

On the other hand you got Miles and Kerry who were writing a 2000s YA novel Harry Potter ripoff like so many other failed writers of the time.

Shit was doomed from the start.
Anonymous No.150452778 [Report]
>>150438966
>keeps introducing major characters from the show like we've never heard of them
>swaps perspectives mid-scene
>that dialogue
Not one of the best
Anonymous No.150452790 [Report] >>150453055
>>150452589
I wish she was still a lesbo. She's non-binary now and chop her boobs
Anonymous No.150452868 [Report]
>>150441631
They don't have brains either
Anonymous No.150452917 [Report]
>>150448343
Jaune is fine because he isn't a main character. You've seen the main characters of this show and all of them aside from weiss have gone to shit. And that's because weiss wasn't really touched on to ruin, she's just there.
Anonymous No.150453055 [Report]
>>150452790
So just extra pathetic now
Anonymous No.150453795 [Report]
>>150452721
>this was a man who thought that FF7 was apogee of human works
FF8 actually.>>150439255
Anonymous No.150453917 [Report] >>150454504
>>150452721
Just make it like Naruto. No schools. No classrooms. Just teams and their senseis going on missions.
Anonymous No.150454504 [Report]
>>150453917
Yup.
It's really that easy.
Anonymous No.150454799 [Report] >>150455193 >>150455536
Did they fuck?
Anonymous No.150455193 [Report]
>>150454799
Many times
Anonymous No.150455446 [Report]
Volumes 1-6 Yang is such a great character it's sad what happens to her after.
Anonymous No.150455536 [Report] >>150455793
>>150454799
Yes. It’s the reason why the General never fucked Winter. You can’t compete with the best. The real question is why he didn’t put a baby in her.
Anonymous No.150455573 [Report]
>>150452721
>And the character designs and lore to facilitate Donut Steel Self Insert creation like you're playing a fucking weeb MMO or something.
I'm not gonna lie this is like half of all "new" franchises at this point.
Anonymous No.150455793 [Report] >>150456329
>>150455536
Maybe Glinda will return with a hapa baby in arms
Anonymous No.150456329 [Report]
>>150455793
Tai was definitely banging that
Anonymous No.150457744 [Report]
>>150450379
I saw someone try to run not one but two quests about him, and they both flatlined before anything exceptional happened.

Real shame too, watching him accidentally inherit the consequences of a parallel lifetime as a crime boss was funny.
Anonymous No.150458672 [Report] >>150458936 >>150458948 >>150460207
>>150439157
That pic physically hurt to read.
Anonymous No.150458936 [Report] >>150458948
>>150458672
I view RWBY the same way I view Naruto.
Objectively speaking it’s incredibly flawed, but there’s just something about it that makes it super endearing to me and as a result scratches a very specific itch not many shows have for me.
Anonymous No.150458948 [Report]
>>150458936
>>150458672
I did not mean to reply to anyone. Whoops.
Anonymous No.150459516 [Report]
>>150438808 (OP)
I dunno about fanfics, but like others have said, yeah, it's not that much of a high bar.

The show did have lots of potential though, it just got ruined too early on due to the creator's death.
Ideally, some japanese studio would get complete ownership of it, and just do a total reboot of the franchise as a full on anime, making use of the core concepts of the series, but disregarding the crap, specially from later seasons.
Anonymous No.150460034 [Report]
I just miss Rwby's fight scenes they have something a lot of current anime fight scenes usually lack.
Anonymous No.150460045 [Report] >>150460133
>>150448801
>>150448343
The reason why Ren doesn't get any attention in fanfics is for the same reason Yang doesn't (at least when it comes towards being the main character). Jaune gets all the attention in fics because thanks to how he was introduced (schizo writing, backpeddling, creative influences, shitty reception to backlash, abandoned throughlines), his background is a blank slate while he's the only real emotional center alongside Blake for the first three volumes. RWBY isn't really the RWBY or even the JNPR show, it's really just the Jaune and Blake show.

The show is stuck like this because nearly all the media Monty pulled from was battle shonen and JRPGs (and also ATLA), which have male characters doing male things, typical coming of age stuff.

>start off as nobody underdogs, zeroes to heroes
>background is vague, but not too vague - usually some big reveal that they're important/special in some capacity
>get pulled into a larger new world (either they're unfamiliar with the bigger world outside their home, or they're foreign/alien to it, or even had their memories tampered with)

For crying out loud, he's literally Sokka (but they fucked that up) + Cloud (but they abandoned whatever story they had in mind)
Anonymous No.150460133 [Report] >>150460163 >>150460189 >>150460207
>>150460045
Jaune being a shit hunter that got in via a forged paper was definitely a cloud strife reference right?
Anonymous No.150460163 [Report]
>>150460133
Him being a fraud is a Cloud reference, yes.
Anonymous No.150460189 [Report]
>>150460133
Yep, just like Pyrrha was born to die and be an Aerith reference.
Anonymous No.150460207 [Report] >>150460374 >>150460520
>>150458672
>tfw you remember that when you compare Miles and Kerry vs Monty when it came to the V1 and V2 commentaries, Monty has infinitely more to say about the character motivations and story than Miles and Kerry do

Monty chose the weirdest guys to be his writers.

>Kerry clearly likes anime (the guy has a Yoko figurine for crying out loud) but he doesn't really get kishotenketsu (East Asian story structure, it's why all anime/manga/tokusatsu/games in Japan feel "like that") or any of the creative/cultural influences behind his favorite anime. Not imaginative enough.
>Miles doesn't really like anime all that much (or at least anything good outside of "hamburger shonen") and is more of a comedy writer than he is an action-adventure/drama writer. Camp Camp was based, his work on RvB was not. His work is too autobiographical for its own good (Adam and Blake's handling of characters are just Miles airing out his dirty laundry over his relationship with Arryn).

>>150460133
Yep. Jaune was originally meant to be a host for Ozpin, but the backlash to the Jaundice arc resulted in M&K deciding to not focus on Jaune as much (Miles' takeaway was that fans didn't want character-driven arcs to be more frequent), which is ironic considering that Monty was the one gassing up Jaune the most. There's also been a lot of speculation that Ozpin let Jaune into school precisely he knew about his Semblance, and that they might have even been related. There's also the dropped implications of Jaune's family having some royalty ties (they have a crest, Jaune mentions vacationing/camping) and the several allusions to farming (he's a Joan of Arc reference, after all), and the symbolism behind Jaune showing up right after Ozpin does in the very first opening. Nevermind the family crest itself.

My honest guess is that originally Jaune's lack of an activated Aura was a deliberate thing that Ozpin had engineered to get a descendant/powerful host within Beacon's grounds without Salem knowing.
Anonymous No.150460244 [Report] >>150460286
>>150448377
Weiss having robot butlers is a cute idea desu

>Weiss and her seven substitute robo-dads
Anonymous No.150460264 [Report]
>>150439255
I don't understand why Monty ripped off FF8 so much when he already ripped off FF7, those are so diametrically opposed in terms of emotional-thematic-narrative throughlines. It's no wonder why RWBY's story is a mess. FF8 was designed to be the anti-FF7 in every way
Anonymous No.150460286 [Report]
>>150460244
Weiss kind of does have "robot butlers" in the anime anyways. The 7 emotional Kleins in her dream world take various forms and some are robots and some are like animated items similar to robots.
Anonymous No.150460374 [Report] >>150460448
>>150460207
Ozpin essentially breeding his perfect successors via eugenics is honestly pretty fucked up it's a shame that nothing like that happens in the actual show though.
Anonymous No.150460448 [Report] >>150460487
>>150449652
This makes me wonder if Salem is meant to be Princess Kaguya considering how a lot of anime and JRPGs retell this myth.

>>150460374
Through schizo-speculation and cross-examining RWBY's core influences (and their creative inspirations) like 99% sure that Ozpin was supposed to be something of a tragic Gendo Ikari figure and Salem was supposed to be his Yui, except Salem was a space alien who corrupted the flow of causality on Remnant and introduced the Grimm. Basically just Jenova, with Cinder being some cross between Sephiroth and Tai Lung.
Anonymous No.150460487 [Report] >>150460616
>>150460448
Maybe but does that mean Cinder is the suitor with fire rat skins kek
Anonymous No.150460520 [Report] >>150460596
>>150460207
I think the idea that Jaune was originally the host is not confirmed. It is true that proto Jaune looks like Oscar did in some ways. But Jaune's color pallet NEVER matches Ozpin's and this is extremely important. Ozpin always had green primary in his and Jaune was never designed like that.

Jaune's name originally was even Jean, since he is the "blue" member of the team before they opted to make the Joan Jaune connection and give him a shared yellow with Yang technically as well.

If anything, I think the Ozpin host was going to be REN. Ren has a major green theme. He is voiced by Monty HIMSELF before his brother took over after his death. And Ren has very little going on for him until after the Beacon arc...after Ozpin's death. It seems clear to me that Ren was the proper next host and he and Ozpin even seem to have similar personalities too, at least far closer than Ozpin and Jaune were (although Oscar and Jaune are closer in personality than Oscar and Ren).
Anonymous No.150460596 [Report] >>150460669
>>150460520
True, but Jaune's whole thing is being a Joan of Arc reference, and his concept art + the farming references and Oscar's whole character (compare his design with Jaune's concept art) make sense when you remember that Joan of Arc was thought to have heard the voice of God who told her to stop farming and fight for France. Cloud's whole thing is hearing voices that aren't his, as well - and even seriously considering he's a Sephiroth clone at one point.

Crocea Mors is literally "yellow death", and it a reference to the British prince Nennius who took Ceasar's sword and took down many men with just a cut from it. The King of Vale is all but said to be Ozpin, and he uses a golden/yellow sword.
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>>150460487
well, Cinderella is associated with rodents
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>>150460596
I think the lack of the color pairing and the non existent similarities between the two of them as well as Jaune being explicitly designed differently put me off this idea though. Especially since Jaune ALREADY left to become a hero because he would have heard Ozpin's voice, so that's not really a similarity that lands here.

The King of Vale is using the sword of destruction not Crocea Mors though so thats completely wrong. Its a relic.
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>>150460616
I just think its funny she gets that reference of all things
Anonymous No.150461121 [Report]
>want the interest of Grimm RWBY being healed by harem magnet Jaune
>Find instead top quality comedy kino where he accidentally becomes Salem's lackey

Knight Of Salem is literal top tier, it's surprising how it's the best of the bunch. It feels great seeing this thread right when I'm reading through all this fic slop.