Thread 150798203

Don't make weird stuff of someone's character when they specifically said not to. It makes them uncomfortable. Grow up.

how about you deal with it

>waahhh I was ASKED not to do something!
>but I NEED porn of this random person’s character who isn’t even part of an established brand!
>I can’t survive with just the 20 billion pornographic drawings of other characters, I need MORE
Yeah grow up

>>150798203 (OP)
If it makes you uncomfortable then don't watch.

people love posting ANYTHING from twitter huh

The world doesn't revolve around sensitive crybabies. It's the internet, nigga

>>150798203 (OP)
No

>>150798203 (OP)
Free will and artistic freedom
Get over it

>>150798262
Artistic freedom of expression regarding works of pure fiction > Personal disgust

>>150798203 (OP)
>I AM SILLY

>>150798203 (OP)
Don't like don't watch/read/whatever. It would be rude to shove it in the creator's face, or expose them to it. But since the vast majority of creators also happen to make fanart, they have no ground to stand on. Historically the first artists that get the axe when people try these things are NSFW and then lgbt artists. Because wanting a thing that makes you uncomfortable (but doesn't hurt anyone) not to exist is a reactionary mindset in the most literal sense.

>>150798262
>other characters
Most people dont want people making porn of their characters, they just know better than to make noise about it because they have a basoc understanding of how the internet works

>>150798404
You literally have the power to keep doing it, you're just asshurt that the creator and their fans will hound you about it. Nobody is actually stopping you so what's the big problem aside from "they told me they don't like it and now I'm mad"?
A creator saying "I don't like this, if you respect me don't do it" isn't a law, it's just them telling you that they think you suck and you getting upset at that. The bitch baby move is letting that put your asshole in a shredder just because they asked you not to.

>>150798479
>asshurt that the creator and their fans will hound you about it.
Sounds like they should get real problems

>>150798203 (OP)
>Grow up
You're on /co/ and actively posting here

>>150798502
Sorry they have freedom of speech and expression too, oh shit. Almost like your argument of "you can't stop it from happening just because you don't like it" works both ways, fuckkk.

>>150798530
Oh no they can complain and bitch all they want
If they actually try to stop others that's just them demanding censorship

>Tell the internet not to do something
>The internet:
Like what do you think is gonna happen?

>>150798203 (OP)
Thank God for fan-artists. People can draw whatever they want. Hell, some of my favorite Pokémon games are made by fans. Video game covers and remix's are done by fans, oftentimes truer to the source material than what Nintendo themselves made. This could apply to any piece of media. Get over it.

>>150798552
>If they actually try to stop others that's just them demanding censorship
That's not what the comic is saying. The comic isn't talking about DMCA or takedown requests, they're talking about people who get their panties in a twist about simply being asked not to do something they can 100% still do.
It's like people who complain about their freedom of speech being infringed just because someone disagreed with them.

>>150798600
>they're talking about people who get their panties in a twist about simply being asked not to do something they can 100% still do.
Just don't look nigga
As long as it's properly tagged/appropriate spaces it doesn't matter

>>150798203 (OP)
Lol Draw culture is such an autism hive

>>150798425
Thread should have ended here

>>150798479
it's also so easy not to post it, it's one thing to like someone's ocs and never share the questionable art you made of them, it's another to post like a retard or an attention whore

>>150798669
You're on 4chan

>>150798203 (OP)
I made a thread with the same pic but a different opinion (albeit specifying not do this to minors) and it got deleted


Mods did i do anything wrong?
No honestly I want to know.
Did my post offend you?

Let's chat

>Everyone in the history of the internet: be careful what you post because the internet has no boundaries
>Zoomers: what the heckinphobe????? Why don't they respect my boundaries

>>150798203 (OP)
Also im still gonna do it

People have done far worse, acting like theyre Hitler for making a lewd of an adult oc you made is childish

>>150798690
>what the heckinphobe

>>150798203 (OP)
>blah blah im a faggot

Im gonna draw whatever character I like however I want

>>150798203 (OP)
The irony of a troll on /co/ saying this

>>150798203 (OP)
No, I WILL draw TF diaper fart porn of your OC.

>>150798858
I hate diaper shit but this sentence got me fucking rolling lmfao

>>150798679
so? acting like people here don't constantly post shit like op looking for (You)'s

>>150798203 (OP)
>Don't make weird stuff of someone's character when they specifically said not to. It makes them uncomfortable. Grow up.

>>150798203 (OP)
>I have looked up images I dislike and now I'm sad

>>150798203 (OP)
What if you create an original character specifically so that porn will be made for them?

>>150798203 (OP)
Fandoms suck, and the entitled degenerate fanartists and their parasites are not very creative people, but if you put something out there today, you have no control over them making art.
To try to avoid this from happening, I think some creatives have opted for making less appealing characters, but that doesn't work either because plenty if people have dogshit taste and will still make shitty off-model art of these less appealing characters.
So just make your work as good as possible, try not think about the retarded fanartists and their worshippers at all. They're the cancer that comes with modern media. Don't waste your energy worrying about it.

>>150798375
Based and in character

>>150798327
Better than YouTube and reddit...

>>150799144
Then you're a pornbrained retard. You should be euthanized and used as fertilizer.

>>150798203 (OP)
Anyone asking this probably draws nothing but uggos out of principle so they're either bitching preemptively at an imagined scenario or mad people are trying to make their characters fuckable

The biggest sin of fanart is creating fan art that's unappealing or ugly.

>>150798977
>basedbooru
Jesus Christ

>>150799208
>I was bad touched
Good

>>150798203 (OP)
Death of the Author, bitch
I can do whatever the fuck I want

These are the same people who make Harry Potter trans flag edits to piss off Rowling and make dumb political art of existing characters.

>>150798203 (OP)
Though luck, Artist can't control how people react to their work, imagine some artist demanding people to like their character, the idea is ridiculous is the same here.

>>150798203 (OP)
Anyone being this much of a fag is baiting to get flooded with hypermuscle/futa/scat slop of their oc
They'd deserve it too

>>150799208
Men were giving their penis so they could jack off with it, use it of lose it. Don't like to masturbate?Enjoy your erectile dysfunction then

>>150799163
>They're the cancer that comes with modern media.
Fan art is a concept older than the internet. Most famous art is just commissioned fan art of myths and history. Artists being creative for the sake of it with no monetary expectations was a recent development

>>150799309
then there's this

>>150799340
The dude showing that to a kid should actually be shot.

>>150798203 (OP)
>Don't make weird stuff of someone's character when they specifically said not to

Sorry snowflake, but the fact that you invented the character doesn't give you any power over me.

>>150798203 (OP)
You should be grateful that people give a shit about your character in the first place

>>150798332
And this attitude is what causes censorship.

>>150798203 (OP)
>a thread over a made-up scenario gets way more traction than actual on-topic threads
what's even the point anymore

You have my permission to draw my character doing weird things. If you can find them.

>>150798203 (OP)
No exceptions, Faggot.

>>150798203 (OP)
>Don't make weird stuff of someone's character when they specifically said not to. It makes them uncomfortable.

Oh no! Anyways... here's even more pron of their characters. I like this one in particular as it includes a midget, a dolphin, and copious amounts of lube.

>>150798262
This. Corporations are not the same as small artists.

>>150798404
>porn
>artistic
Kek

>>150798262
Look man, someone made futanari-on-male art of one of my characters and I fucking hate it. But sometimes it's best to say nothing rather than let the internet do what it does when you try push back against it.

>>150798203 (OP)
You can't contain it and the more you complain about it, the worse it'll get. At best, say you don't approve of X interpretation of the character (possibly in a somewhat jokingly manner) and ignore.
Like, do you think romcom manga writers like having their sweet couple star in hundreds of Fat Bastard NTR doujins?

>>150800334
>He doesn't know

>>150798203 (OP)
>Don't
New to the internet?

>>150799196
do you drink piss because it's better than eating shit? no. you don't consume either because they're both bad

>>150798375
Based Pearl!

>>150799196
How is twitter better than youtube? At least youtube has content I actually like every now and then, twitter is just a den of whiny fags.

>>150798203 (OP)
Your objections only make my erection harder.

>>150799449
>Fan art is a concept older than the internet.
Not in this capacity.
>Artists being creative
I hope you're not referring to fanart.

>>150798203 (OP)
This but unironically.

>>150798203 (OP)
I think their emotions are too lame to care about, which is especially damning for an artist - quit lecturing like somebody’s prot mom who justifies things by what feels good or bad

>>150799144
Then no one will EVER draw porn of them.

>>150798203 (OP)
My favorite was CH Greenblatt's response to Chowder R34. He knew he couldn't stop it so he revealed that Chowder canonically has giant nipples to influence the fan art. The creator cannot stop it, a side effect of garnering a devoted following is some followers having a sexual attraction to the work after all, but they can change them.

>>150800814
Yeah i remember his cringey article about furries ruining everything that came out at the same time as the bit about the gay snow leopard he put in his own show.
Theyre all disengenuous and for from "not caring" about their feelings i actively beleive they mean the opposite of what they say.

>>150798633
>As long as it's properly tagged/appropriate spaces it doesn't matter
By your own logic it also doesn't matter if the creator doesn't like it and asks people not to? You are just as allowed to make the art and post it places as they are allowed to dislike it and speak about how they think you're a cunt. That's how it works: everybody can speak their mind and have their opinion/actions criticized.

You can keep doing what you're doing, too, just don't expect to never face any sort of retaliation or opposition for your own actions. Why is this so hard for people to understand? "Artistic freedom of expression" doesn't mean "nobody is ever allowed to think what I make is bad or think I'm a bad person for making it".

>>150799808
>being unwilling to self-censor causes censorship.
Actually, sensitive faggots cause censorship.

>>150798203 (OP)
When does this actually happen?
Professional creators either don't give a shit, or are forced to get over it
And small creators with their own OCs either make everything themselves, or ask/pay other people to make shit with their character, rarely do people make stuff with another person's character without permission

So I ask again, when does this scenario even fucking happen?

>>150800296
>futanari-on-male art of one of my characters
based

>>150799144
It happened and worked, Helltaker did it

>>150798203 (OP)
No, fuck off.
If you don't want people doing weird shit to your characters, keep them private.

>>150800905
It happened with Yaelokre. It got weird when she asked her fans to think of her as a child, while being mid 20s.

>>150800997
>Yaelokre
>Muh special dream name
I especially enjoy abusing mental children

>>150801011
>we like your character
>that's why we draw them being defiled in the most humiliating and degenerate ways that we know would be seen as disgusting to the average person
No you fucking don't.
Man up and deal with the fact people also disagree with you. Nobody is stopping you.
It's amazing that nobody here can see the hypocrisy of saying "it's the internet, deal with it" to artists while also being completely unable to process the fact that the same applies to them. You don't get to have zero pushback just because you think you shouldn't.

>>150801011
I love the second panel but we both know the first panel is "NOBODY FUCKS MY DOODLES BUT ME!"

>>150801138
>unable to process the fact that the same applies to them.
How dare you make clean art of our smut art of your character!!!!!

Guy, i don't think your argument holds water. Does the artist of the character have to listen to fans demands?

NO.

Do fans have to listen to the demands of the Artist?

NO.

See that applies to both of them.

>Grow up
>Adult
>Adultering

Wait a minute?

>>150800878
>By your own logic it also doesn't matter if the creator doesn't like it and asks people not to?
Exactly, the opinion of the creator does not matter in this discussion

>>150801138
Complaining about people doing something you literally have no way to stop is a complete waste of your own time and energy. And the only way to actually stop them would be to restrict freedom of expression for everyone including yourself as an artist. Don't like the way people draw your character and want the power to prevent it? Hope you don't draw fan art because now the corporations that own the IP can sue you for drawing it.

>>150801164
Sorry, I only had 1 million hours in ms paint to create that one, If only I had 1 more hour!

But yeah, damn it, you had a better idea there.

>>150800997
To be fair, it's more of a stage persona for her than actual character, so I kinda get that.

>>150798203 (OP)
people creates fantasies of real life people and i dont just mean actors but regular people who had 5 minutes of spotlight and you think that cartoon characters should be safe

>>150801238
And neither does yours, see how easy that is? They can say what they want, and you can do what they want.
>>150801239
>Complaining about people doing something you literally have no way to stop is a complete waste of your own time and energy
Then why complain that an artist simply says "I don't like this, please don't do it" if they're NOT actually threatening any legal action?

>>150801318
It's annoying, and they should know how the internet works, that's it

>>150801318
>why complain that they complain
You can go down a fucking chain like that forever but in a case like this they are the one who started the complaining. They could (and should) have just ignored it. It doesn't fucking matter.

>>150801318
>Then why complain
Is the Artist Complaining?
Yes.
Then we can complain too.

This is the internet after all, complaining online is like 10% of what the internet is all about. The other 90% is making smut of characters that their perspective creators don't want involved in smut.

i hate zoomers and millennials with troll's remorse

>>150798203 (OP)
Someone should draw these two fucking in a pool of chocolate pudding and send it to the artist

>>150801693
That should be the third panel.

>>150798203 (OP)
I feel like people who say don't make rule 34 of their character deserve to have it made of them.

>>150798375
>>150798561
>>150798800
>>150799568
>>150800484
>>150800761
>>150801011
Remember these are the same people that will harass a POC artists for drawing races raceswapping or redrawing an establish character as another race and will bitch on how "its killing western culture" or whatever the fuck. The most hypocritical retards I ever seen, unironicallly fuck all of you.

>>150799163
This whole post is obnoxious

>>150801996
That really the strongest bait you've got? Just give sauce for pic and come back when you're better at this.

>>150800795
peepoodo would like to have a word

>>150802137
All things considered PeePooDoo has very little porn of it. No comics afaik.

>>150802046
You find self-awareness of how lame and predictable the typical fandom person is obnoxious.

>>150798203 (OP)
I'm reminded of a story I heard a long while ago. When someone joins Disney as an animator or creator or anything like that, they're actually shown Rule 34 art of popular Disney IP's, and straight up told told "This is what's going to happen to anything you make if you work here". Not because of whether it's morally right or makes them uncomfortable, but because it's inevitable. I think creators need to understand they don't have an ironclad hold over their fanbase and especially not over horny fanartists. After a certain level of popularity, you will see Rule 34, of *any* character you make.

>>150802180
>well, no doujins so no porn
Moving goalpost

>>150801996
those are some fat fucking tits, godamn
I'm absolutely furious about your ragebait. Now reply with more pictures like that to enrage me further

>>150802180
Monique has like at least 400 results

A woman 100% drew this, shut up bitch I hate women. Find her OC's and draw them being raped.

>>150798203 (OP)
Gooning to porn is the only thing that matters and SFW artists get the rope.

>>150798203 (OP)
I'm sure I'm not the only person who's noticed this, but almost every single time an artist online says "don't make porn of my character(s)", they always turn out to be a massive degenerate/pervert/hypocrite/liar behind the scenes. I can name two examples off the bat: Jaidenanimations (Alpharad cheated on his high school sweetheart-turned-fiance with her) and the Mandela Catalog creator who was doing pervy stuff over Discord.

There's a disturbing trend with recent online creators where they think they have more authority over their fanbase than they actually do, but will just outsource any sense of actual control over how they want things to be run. Unless you're going to go full Anne Rice or Robin Hobb, meekly going "erm, please don't lewd my characters" will do nothing meaningful because you're just banking on sycophants and loud fans to bully out what you don't like. If anything, it's dishonest....and it's also stupid. Every single time an author tries to ban porn of their stories, it either kills their fanbase outright or results in the Streisand effect.

>>150802069
>>150802254
>No valid responses to my arguments and just went into "Coomer" mode
A bunch of simple minded fucks! There's a difference between an artist batching about shit and making shit to make people piss off for no good reason, imagine you make that character based off yourself, and then some crazy fuck made some crazy bullshit like your character is getting raped! Like what the fuck! You all some sick fucks if you're defending this shit!

>>150801996
>POC artists for drawing races raceswapping or redrawing an establish character as another race
>POC
I see the problem here,
these artists are racially motivated thinking "I'm POC its fine if I do it"
these fags are total hypocrites and complain about other artists raceswaps when it's their race being swapped out
if they want a POC character without being harassed about raceswaping make a new one
they don't make their own POC character because they're creatively bankrupt
>how dare a fan artist make black panther white reeeeeeeeeeeee
>call marvel have them sue for misusing their POC characters
its official art from a comic
>;_; wha n-no that doesn't count
touch grass

>>150802563
I tend to forget about sfw art much often after I see them.

>>150802567
JadenAnimations has been harrased for fucking decades! Not only she has to deal with fucking DaftPina being an incel retard that thought her stomach issues was fake (for no real fucking reason and now hes some yiffing fuck) and some dipshit Columbian retard drawing her and her mother getting fucked by a bunch of Mexicans for no fucking reasons and jerks his cocks to it. What happened to Alpharad was his own fucking problem, not Jadens, fuck Alpharad BTW, stupid retarded fuck thought he was the shit because he was good at Smash Bros and acting all conceited, fuck you motherfucker. Fuck the fan base at that point

>>150801996
Im drawing porn of some random character not raceswapping an established character for brownie points, nigger
If I was officially working on something I would have more respect for the source material but Im drawing some autists furry girl with big boobs because I like her design

>>150798262
Haven't you niggers heard of death of the author? I shall and I will lewd any character I want

>>150801996
I'm fine with raceswapping as long as the character is still hot.

Im going to draw whatever I please howeverbeit

>>150800905
Look up fanwork bans. It used to be a lot more prominent in the 90s and 2000s, but it's not really a thing anymore.

>>150803205
This. As long as the character looks cool, is sexy, and isn't a fucking OC wearing only the name and clothes of the character, then raceswap away.

>>150798977
It's weird to think sharty sides with >>150798203 (OP)
but they arrive to the same conclusion from completely different philosophies.

>>150802998
Most of you go off-model. You're hypocrites.

>>150798230
>it's ok to make lewd fanart
>EXCEPT FOR UNDERAGE CHARACTER WTF SOMEONE CALL THE POLICE

>>150802998
Post your art then, if you want to talk a big game. Stand behind your point.

>>150798203 (OP)
it's the internet, we can make fanart of whatever character exists except lewds of underage oc or make colored characters 1% lighter, that is crossing the line, ok?

>>150803845
cant associate my draws with me saying nigger, Also the last time I drew someones OC without asking they ended up following me so Im not good at being a hater who draws characters that dont want to be drawn

>>150798203 (OP)
I CAN listen to what you want.
But I can also NOT listen to what you want.
:^)

>>150803746
LIKE I SAID, JACK
KIDS ARE CRUEL
AND I LOVE MINORS

>>150798203 (OP)
I am constantly fighting a desire to draw cute OCs I see getting tickle tortured.

I don't do it cause I don't wanna be weird. but man I want to.

Simply make the weird shit but keep it to yourself. You get to enjoy your diaper foot cock vore pics and they get to remain blissfully unaware

>>150804371
Don't share your art with other people who might like it because some people don't like it? Why don't the original creators do the same thing then, and nobody will ever share their art.

I want GalacticMichi's catgirl being fucked by my cub shota but the drama just ain't worth it

>>150802137
The artist who threw a tantrum over edits of his characters removing armpit hair

>>150804414
>Don't share your art with other people who might like it because some people don't like it?
Yes
Fetish artists and their fans are the most obnoxious faggots on the planets and they deserve nothing. Mastercard did nothing wrong.

>>150798262
hello, based department?

>>150798262
Rule 35, faggot

>>150804542
>I don't like thing so corporations should make sure it's censored from the internet
Nice to know what side you and your ilk are on and that you absolutely do not belong on 4chan since they'd happily shut this place down and make anonymity impossible too.

>>150804483
I know who you are

>>150802893
Sfw artists should be euthanized

>>150804609
No such thing as rules of the internet.

People often draw my characters doing weird shit, I think it's fun

>>150798203 (OP)
>>150798262
Don't post your oc on the internet.

>>150804816
And yet you knew exactly what it referred to

Despite the threat that I will be drawn as a detestable person in your comic, I will continue to do as I please on account of me wanting to.

>>150804995
PYW then you retarded faggot

>>150805111
>>>/aco/9012437

>>150804697
go eat some poop and jack, weirdo

>>150805254
>weirdo
This has never been an insult, especially not here normalfag

>>150798203 (OP)
>Grow up.
Ain't nobody got time for that.

>>150800905
Take this with a grain of salt and it's not /co/ but I heard that you're not allowed to make porn of the racing horse game in Japan because it upsets the irl horses' owners. However, since it's gotten popular in the US, I haven't really seen any comments on it while the amount of images have skyrocketed.

>>150802956
you just reminded me of picrel

>>150798262
>>150798203 (OP)
Pussies, everything should be worthy lf bastardizing.

You edit fags then start to cry when someone removes your fetish from the image.

>>150805274
okay weirdo

>>150805658
Baaaased

>>150805476
Based as fuck loliphilosophy.

>>150805476
I'm aware of everything surrounding it, and memes aside, it's always been more of a polite "please don't do that" than hard rule. Rest assured, there's still plenty of lewds in the usual places for it if you look

>>150804707
apparently everyone does by my capslock or something

>>150802748
>The nastiest stuff he has seen is a character getting raped

No one tell him about the fetish stuff.

I draw rape and gore of my own ocs and people who don't even know their names have clutched their pearls over it. It's never about the creator's wishes, it's always about people who get offended way too easily.

>I control my work after it is published
I'm glad artists are getting destroyed by ai.

>>150802275
pretty shit numbers for a character designed like that, as gay as this may sound they unironically should've designed more appealing male characters to pair her up with

>>150805705
Creators should not even waste the bandwidth telling people not to draw porn of their characters

In fact it usually has the opposite effect than intended

>>150799485
based

>>150805997
Based I say.

>>150804170
>cant associate my draws with me saying nigger
Oh, so NOW it's a problem? You sure were bold a minute ago, what happened? Not so tough without anonymity, huh? You spineless coward.

>>150806059
>I'm glad artists are getting destroyed by ai.

>>150802770
In your shitty definition, shouldn't fuckass coomer artists that make art of other people's stuff are in the same boat as what your call "fags". You stupid dipshit, if the artist doesn't want you to make coom art of their characters than don't do it dipshit.
>>150804170
Bullshit, you're full of lies.
>>150805997
>You - draws horrific dogshit art with the purpose to disturb people
>ew this shit is kinda cringe bro
>You - WHAT THE FUCK I CANT DRAW MY FUCKING ART, YOU'RE ALL A BUNCH OF PUSSIES BRO, NOT ME, THE GUY THAT MAKES A BUNCH OF BULLSHIT
Get the fuck out of here

>>150806090
Nah its normal. The sexier a character is in their original design the less sexy art gets made of them.

>>150800905
In their minds where all the other perceived slights against these people occur.

>>150806103
/thread

>>150798203 (OP)
I've fixed some inaccuracies.

>>150806402
>You stupid dipshit, if the artist doesn't want you to make coom art of their characters than don't do it dipshit.
Whatcha gonna do about it?

>>150800905
>When does this actually happen?
Not as frequent as OP thinks, but it happens. You'd be surprised how mental people get about their OCs getting lewded. One tranny vtuber lost their shit because someone made porn of their avatar and compared it to rape without consent.

>>150801996
>the same people that will harass a POC artists for drawing races raceswapping
Bullshit
I harass brown artists for no reason other than their skin color.

>>150798262
What are they gonna do about it lol? Call the police and say their fictional creation was raped?

>>150800870
Is there any link to this? I always wonder about bigger/legit creators response to furries

>>150806546
>I harass brown artists for no reason other than their skin color.
Unfathomly based.

>>150806581
I gave it a splid 45 seconds of my time to find. Idk. He had a blog. I googled his blog. didnt see the "furries ruin everything" article.

>>150806217
Post the full version

>>150806670
NSFW. Consensual snuff and gore is stupid anyway.

>>150798203 (OP)
Or you can go fuck yourself instead and let people do what they want
How about that

>>150800653
>Not in this capacity.
Nigga, the french wrote a fanfic where their oc cucks the hero king of the british which started a chain of other fanfics of new ocs that btfo the last ones.

>>150806386
Better than >>150802956 >>150802748 >>150806402

>>150798262
Get bent troon Ill go out my way to make porn of your character now

>>150802956
>decades
Anon she's 28

>>150800905
The guy who made Bioshock Infinite asked people to cut back with all the porn of Elizabeth, since she’s like a daughter to him.
Cue people making so much more porn of her that I swear it was a plot on his part to use reverse psychology to get more porn of her on purpose.

>>150798203 (OP)
I don't care about how you feel and I'll do whatever pleases me.

>>150798203 (OP)
Meanwhile, the artist has probably drawn tons of their own fanart "reinterpreting" other artists' characters.

>>150798203 (OP)
Sounds like Disney crying about you using Mickey in stuff they don’t like. Corporate crybabies.

>>150798203 (OP)
If you upload something for the entire internet to see, you can’t control what people do with it. You don’t have to like it, but that’s the reality of the situation and the best thing you can do is just ignore it. If you can’t handle the idea of not having complete control over what people do with your creation, you should probably just keep it to yourself.

>>150806736
Gimmie the artist name so I can look it up then

>>150806640
Dang, well thanks anyway

>>150801996
Pathetic

>>150801996
Obviously the solution is to raceswap the OC, then it is a new property that they can't get mad about lewding.

>>150806402
Imagine the sloppy uneven shit ropes those girls must shit in their pants, the grumbling of their guts when a big crap load shoots out their shitter holes. The putrid stench of rotten cheese. Yum.

>>150806829
Niggas who see their creations as children are insane.

first world problems

>>150806736
>Consensual snuff
Wat? The consent trannies have been given too much ground

>>150806829
deserved for making fucking bioshock infinite. holy fuck that game was such a disappointment

>>150806829
It would be but
It really is the case that most people are walking around woth no idea of sen tzu's teachings.

>>150807240
There was a time where i would be like
>i can love america and NOT be a racist
But tha ks to bioshock infinite and all the other trannies, theyve finally convinced me

>>150806920
Underrock.

>>150807223
When the girl in the operating table begs the doctor to perform open heart surgery on her and show her as they crush the heart it gets lame.

>>150801011
Based as fuck.

>>150806799
Fuck you motherfucker, don't insult Milkies that way!
>>150807191
It's called creating a story and making art, you conceited fuck! You never made anything worth shit in your life so what do I expect? Fuck you!

>>150807517
No really. Seeing you characters like your family is just setting yourelf up to be like the idiot in the op.

>>150798203 (OP)
PLEASE tell me someone has made porn of this specific comic.

>>150798203 (OP)
>Make weird stuff of someone's character when they specifically said not to. It makes them uncomfortable.
How weird?

Don't create shit and make it public, if you don't want the public to interact with it.

Unless people are sending the shit directly to them, suck it up. People are going to make smut regardless of the "wishes" of others. Nobody is ever going to be so universally loved and respected that EVERYONE agrees to oblige their request. So again, they just need to suck it up, not go looking for the weird stuff, and everything will be thing.

>>150806103
This. It's like when whatshisface, Ken Levit or Levine or whatever got upsetti spaghetti over people making smut of Liz from Bioshock Infinite. If he didn't want that, maybe don't give her a huge fucking rack. Better yet, don't say cringe shit like "she's like a daughter to me". I can get seeing your creations like children, but probably best to just ignore the goddamn smut.

>>150798203 (OP)
Child, next time be clever and post the character to get porn with your bait.

I can respect not wanting people to send the stuff to you directly, or post it in clearly inappropriate places, like a SFW art tag.
But if you want to control how people interact with what you've made in their own spaces away from you, you simply shouldn't have made it available to them in the first place.

>>150801138
Yes. We. Do.
Cope, you fucking sovshit retardo. People can like a character AND enjoy seeing them in a sexualized manner. YOU don't get to dictate the rules of what "liking" are about, you dipshit newfag.

>>150800180
At what point does an artist become big enough that we're allowed to make porn of their characters?

>>150798262
>ASKED not to do something
And we declined.

>>150808456
Anybody who genuinely tries to control how people interact with their works either has ego problems, or just doesn't understand the internet. By all means, if they don't want to see that stuff, it's well within their right to request people not send it to them.

>>150806402
Uh oh, baby is having a tantrum

>>150799954
Ditto. I'm kinda bummed that nobody's made obscene fanart of my characters yet.

>>150798203 (OP)
I think the boundaries between an artist and their fans is as follows:
The fans can make whatever they want
The artist can make whatever they want
The artist and fans do not restrict one another.

I still remember the deviantart days where artists were bullied over having a character NOT be gay. It was really bad...

>>150798203 (OP)
>they made
>they

>>150808877
Perfectly reasonable request. He's fine with people making the shit, he just doesn't care to see it. If people think they need approval from the creator, that says more about them as people with validation issues than the creators who say "that's nice, but could you please NOT show me this stuff?"

>>150808877
>>150809050
The very first sentence is completely fine. The rest do come off as schizo ramblings though.

>>150809124
I mean, if people were messaging me nonstop smut that I don't care for, I'd probably sperg out too. The bit about the cameltoe is a little strange, since that's something he could have avoided entirely if it's going to be used as fuel by the porn artists. I recall hearing the dude who made Glitch Techs had a similar situation, though the details do get a bit murky since some people say he was fine being shown some stuff, while others say he was being a puritan and demanding nobody show him even a worksafe image.

>>150808874
the general 'they' anon, not the gendered they
stop thinking about trannies

>>150805221
>AI slop
discarded

>>150801996
>Remember these are the same people that will harass a artists for drawing races raceswapping or redrawing an establish character as another race and will bitch on how "its killing western culture" or whatever the fuck.

There, I fixed that for you, I don't care if atists are POC, they can be as white as a ghost, but yeah if they are swapping races for established characters then yes, yes I will criticism them for it. Being a POC artist doesn't even fucking enter the equation.

>>150806402
>You stupid dipshit, if the artist doesn't want you to make coom art of their characters than don't do it dipshit.
Or what?

Serious, you sound more like a dipshit than anyone else here. I give credit for trying real hard but in the end the rest of us are in the Olympics and you're competing in the Special Olympics. At the end of the day, you're just retarded. I really don't have a argument with you because you make no sense at all.

>anons actually unironically biting the flashing neon lit bait of the guy posting titty pics while Jay Sherman stands by repeating BITE MY BAIT
Jesus fucking Christ /co/, I knew some of you were retarded but not THAT retarded.

>>150802956
>JadenAnimations has been harrased for fucking decades!
Well, that's generally what a whore gets for getting involved with a man who is in a relationship, correction, engaged to get married.

I don't see why she or anyone would seem surprised at that fact.

>>150807691
Miracle on Rule 34th Street:
"Yes Virginia, there is porn of it".

>>150810021
>Jesus fucking Christ /co/, I knew some of you were retarded but not THAT retarded.
Does it help my defense if I mention I am really bored....

>>150810380
Not really Anon, do something you enjoy. Read a comic. Watch a cartoon. Go look at some porn.

>>150810021
>le bait, you're losing to this person
Nice delusion. It's hilarious when people like you think responding to something in debate means people are playing to some horseshit "rules"
Get your meds, kiddo

>>150798690
Forget it, anon. The idea of internet safety is dead. Remember when they said not to use your real name online? Nowadays sites demand you give them your literal government ID.

>>150799196
>Better than YouTube
Maybe the comments section, but nobody is going to youtube for the comments.

>>150810674
As a late teen at the time, seeing the shift in the public's perception of the internet between 2008 and 2009 was fucking wild.
In one year people went from debating wether Facebook was safe, especially for kids and teens, to basically finding it extremely weird if you didn't use it.
Three years later it was basically a demand that I'd have a Linked-In when I started to look for a job.

>>150801996
>The most hypocritical retards I ever seen
There's nothing hypocritical about it.
If your art is gay and stupid, then I'm going to call you a fag.
That's both the majesty and consequence of the internet, anything you upload is subject to any variation of imitation, flattery, or criticism. And all of those are in turn subject to themselves until they are so far removed from the topic that we just end up calling each other slurs on some Mongolian basket weaving forum.
[YOU ARE HERE]

>>150798203 (OP)
pornography is wrong and immoral
that said, it's the internet. you'd be an idiot to expect anything else

>>150798690
I remember when I could safely say that the anything posted on the internet was forever.
Impressively, that turned out to be wrong. It's amazing how much content we've lost to censorship over the years.

>>150810482
>Not really Anon, do something you enjoy.
... what about (You?

Can't wait for Normieween to be over so all the NPC sluts and dudebros can shut up and go inside for the winter

>>150808636
>At what point does an artist become big enough that we're allowed to make porn of their characters?
When you can see their characters online.

>>150798203 (OP)
Somebody make porn of these grey faggots fucking each other in the ass.

>>150803853
this is just them justifying policing how everyone makes their fanarts

>>150801996
I agree that a person shouldn't get harassed for making fan art, like that chick who made SU art. But there's a difference between people acting ike turbo spergs and destroying a person, and people just having a laugh at someone who likely drew something actually bad and worthy of critique.

>>150808877
>should I get rid of her eyes? Or will you sick fucks go “OMG SOCKETFUCK, SOCKETFUCK, IT’S AWWWWRIGHT~”

>>150809124
>The rest do come off as schizo ramblings though.
Honestly, "SOCKETFUCK, SOCKETFUCK, IT’S AWWWWRIGHT~” is genuinely one of the most appropriate and cognizant things ever spouted in 2006.

>>150801996
I find it incredible that people will absolutely cream their shorts for the most generic looking goth chicks imaginable. I sure hope we're not judged collectively when all is said and done, because if we are, I'll be extremely pissed to sink with the rest of you retards.

>>150798404
Uh-huh, sure. Now would you say the same about LGBTQ characters and anti-Christian themes in media?

>>150811307
This conversation is fun because the side that says "you don't have to be a coomer" and the other side can't refute them at all, so they just go "I'll...I'll post coom material to avoid having to engage!".

Its the same thing as saying "I lost", but with more balloon tits and bad anatomy.

>>150809124
It's only schizo if you don't get what he's referencing.
And if you do references, then it's because either you went to /b/, or /b/ went to you.
There's no doubt that someone probably followed up with eye socket porn and sent it to him right after that post.

>>150811361
NTA, but you'd be surprised what I'd tolerate as long as the other side was willing to say "Well, I have LGBTQ shit in my cartoons, so he can have fat titty bitches in his". But its not like that. They say "What i like is morally just, so I should have it the way I want it, but your side is evil and you are evil, so you should be left with nothing".

>>150804609
>Rule 35
What an embarrassing mistake to make kek
Newfag

>>150798203 (OP)
Are the mods drawfags?

Did they take offense to my post with the same image made earlier today making fun of the image?

Whu was that deleted but this one kept up?

It sounds like theres a personal reason to me

>>150798203 (OP)
>Don't make weird stuff of someone's character when they specifically said not to.
Authors don't have the right to restrict the artistic freedom of others. As long as they're not making money off it by infringing on copyright it's perfectly permissible.

>>150811496
Exactly. The only rights writers/artists have are for their IP, and I'm totally fine with them being stingy on that if they don't want their stuff getting raped by the likes of the Mouse. But randos making smut on the net? Those people will literally make porn out of spite.

>>150811415
Retard. Go learn the rules of the internet.

>>150811496
Authors and writers shouldn't have any rights period. The minute you upload something you made, it should be claimed by a corporation to do whatever they want with it as they so desire.

>>150800484
Artist?

>>150812229
d-rock

>>150812195
You should apologize for ragebait as as weak as this.

>>150798203 (OP)
Asking people not to sexualize a character you made is actually pretty silly. Its human nature to do that and this has been the case since the dawn if time. If people fapping to your characters makes you "feel weird" then dont show them off to the whole great big horny world. I understand that being the creator wouls make you feel like you should have some authority over how your creations are viewed but it simply does not work that way.

>>150805221
Kill yourself.

>>150798203 (OP)
It is so weird to me when Show creators at companies, like Disney or Cartoon Network do this shit. "Pwease rewspec my chawactew UwU." Meanwhile "your character" went through 10 different stages of corpo mandated and approved redesigns before your show even aired. Also, the company is merchandising it in the most unhinged ways possible. No, I will not respect your character, fuck no, because you don't respect it either.

That being said... My general rule is that I will respect the characters of individual artists' OCs online. No deep moralfag bullshit, really, I just see it as a non-agression pact sort of thing. I respect your boundaries, as long as you respect mine. I will not freak out when others dont see it this way, it's the internet, you can't expect everyone to adhere to your rules. Especially not Mexican loli porn artists.

>>150798203 (OP)
ummmm death of the author sweaty

It's really simple. Don't want to see your beloved characters sexualized? Either never publish your works, or keep them in the realm of written media since the vast majority of porn is based on animated, game, or film media. But once your stuff is out there, it's free game. That said, I'm all for not bugging creators with massive influxes of smut, as it's just mutual decency to not send random strangers spicy content for no reason. Though if the creators are preachy, they do open themselves to retaliation, which can and likely will include being bombarded by smut of their character getting fisted up to the elbow by another character while they're both dressed as French maids and getting spanked by frozen carp

>>150798203 (OP)
Sorry Jorph, I will continue to lewd your characters

I don't think it's wrong to ask.
But don't be deluded into thinking they'll stop.

>>150798203 (OP)
I'm sorry, is this your first time on the internet?

>>150813349
Realism is a method, not a responsibility. There was a whole literary movement back in the 1800s that had some fancy name, that explored the idea that human nature isn't fixed. Without it, idk, maybe we wouldn't have cartoon villains and amoral witches that will kick puppies and eat babies. Because "realism" demands characters be reasonable.

>>150813349
this is retarded because fictional characters don't need to give consent, they aren't fucking real
Do you ask your fleshlight for consent before you cram your sweaty chode in it?
do you ask your dildo for consent before you ram it up your as?

>>150808851
>naked Sage
Noice

>>150806829
He said that and Elizabeth absolutely blew up on popularity. If it wasn't Lara Croft or Zoey from L4D then Elizabeth rule34 was absolutely flooding the source_filmmaker tag. Bioshock Infinite much like Mass Effect is years out from being relevant or good and yet people like that character enough to continue to generate content of her. Rent free. The hallmark that your character design worked.

>>150808877
>"WTF YOU DREW FUTAPORN OF AERIS?!?!?"
>draws futa porn of her 12 years later
Lmao

>>150811307
>>150811366
Artistic freedom
It's either all okay or none of it is okay

>>150811361
Sure fine whatever
I disagree with Ennis' views on religion but I'm not gonna demand Preacher to be censored because it's a free country

>>150814302
>Check
>She has a tiny dick
Well, that's disappointing.

>>150811397
So two wrongs make a right? Literally all woketards are doing is what the religious right was doing for decades but with rainbow paint.

>>150798203 (OP)
Why is he sweating so much

>>150811361
Why the fuck do you think everyone who disagrees with you on freedom of expression is a far-right chud?

>>150814348
Small dicks look very cute, I just don't like futas in general

>>150812697
Dude nobody in the right mind cares enough to tell people NOT to make a big deal of lewd art aside from IIRC Butch Hartman
Rebecca Sugar drew Edd and Eddy fucking when she was 20
inb4 she was a teenager
The art with her initials on it literally also says '07
As in 2007

>>150813349
lol, consent for fictional characters is irrelevant because they're fictional. Even if they did need to give consent like this image describes, now that a new artist is drawing them, clearly the new creator is can portray active consent thus totally circumventing the argument.

>>150798375
>>150802137

>>150813349
What are you gonna do?
Nuke Newgrounds?
Blow up comiket?

>>150810021
Hey dipshit, I'm not against artist making sexy stuff or artist doing whatever "fetish" they have, but if someone doesn't like it when people don't want others to draw coomer shit of their characters, people should respect that.what the fuck happened to civility? What's the fuck happened to the right to privacy? Fuck all of you motherfuckers unironically.
>>150808212
>suck it up
You would like sucking on something, don't you?
>>150809978
>I don't want to argue against because I have nothing
At least you admitted it
>>150811496
>unironically posts Muslim meme where depiction of anything is illegal
You fucked yourself

>>150814363
He knows his question is silly and he's insecure about it. It's an awkward ask that has room for many negative implications. Like how can you have such an ego as to believe people will create lustful images of your work? Besides AI is a thing now. Your library and "style" can be downloaded in less time it takes to heat a hot pocket and then people can really be malicious and generate hate-based content of your work. And that'll really sting. Having what is essentially an avatar of a representation of your personality depicted as being sexually abused or seriously hurt doesn't feel good. Best to just expect it's coming and then don't seek the content out. Lust has nothing to do with you personally. It's sin. Flee from it.

>>150814498
>What's the fuck happened to the right to privacy?
Fictional characters aren't private possessions to the extent where nobody is allowed to do whatever without consent
You may not be able to profit or claim official canon or whatever but they're free to use like a public canvas because that's how art gets made.
Draw Poison Ivy cutting down a rainforest
Draw Eric Cartman advocating for Israel
Do whatever, draw whatever
Just don't cross the basic moral line where it involves real life victims and we're as good as gravy

>>150814472
I knew when I saw the paragraph for the image here>>150813349 that it was written by a leftoid nigger. They just can't help themselves

>>150814532
Also tag that stuff and keep it in the appropriate parts of the internet
That's the one basic courtesy that doesn't involve an actual serious crime because it's like the art equivalent of going to the park to get a blow job
Nobody wants to see it but nobody also cares if you take it somewhere else

>>150814550
Here's a question
What if the author is literally dead?
Then what?
How do you know if J. R. R. Tolkien would approve of your LotR Hobbit smut?

>>150814498
If you want complete control over something you made, never put it on the Internet. Simple as.

>>150814550
It's from some blog by a white guy in 2015
https://everydayfeminism.com/2015/04/empowered-vs-objectified

OH SHIT MATT AND TREY
DID YOU RECEIVE CONSENT FROM LUCASARTS TO HAVE INDIANA JONES BE RAPED BY GEORGE LUCAS AND STEVEN SPIELBERG

>>150814569
He probably wouldn’t considering he was Catholic. He also wouldn’t like that they niggerfied his IP, but what can you do.

OH NO BOYS
DISNEY'S NOT GONNA LIKE THIS

>>150798262
>>150801996
>>150806402
>>150811361
>>150811366
>>150811307
If South Park and Family Guy can get away with satirizing real life people and actually have them be shown killed on-screen, what makes you think going all sentimental over drawings you don't like for characters that aren't even real is gonna actually matter?

>>150798203 (OP)
/Co/ just takes any bait and skyrockets it to bump limit, people here fucking suck.

Then an actual comic thread only gets 70 replies and gets archived, actually shit hole board

Parody law. Freedom of expression.

>>150814635
I actually decided not to storytime today partially because the catalog seemed extra shitty

>>150798375
What’s with people leaving construction lines in their art? Never really touched digital but isn’t it really easy to get rid of those?

>>150814398
Because that's how the internet works now. Everyone who doesn't agree with you is a single person, usually someone you've picked out as a target beforehand, that you can fuel all your hate onto.

>>150814663
It distracts from errors. It’s an insecure artist thing

>>150814498
Nice projection, newfaggot

>>150798203 (OP)
I just take that as a challenge Or I would if I was public with my art

>>150814556
This is the way

Guy on the right is correct. People who try to police artistic expression of their stupid blorbos ARE annoying and stupid. >>150798262
I WILL draw porn of your stupid OC getting facefucked by MY stupid OC and you cannot stop me.

>>150800795
Patently false.

>>150804529
Nobody cares what the French think.

>>150804829
That just means you're a cuck.

>>150806902
they loooove their intellectual property
artists are petit-bourgeois scum

>>150812392
Oh I'm not ragebaiting. I genuinely want to snuff out imagination and creativity. I want the internet to reach a point where nobody is allowed to use it even though your service providers will still beg you for your money.

>>150800905
Most creators that aren't putrid leftoids know that there is NOTHING they could do to stop porn of their characters to begin with, Loli and shota included, unless I'm specific cases like, when the character is based, partially or fully on a real life relative per example, like nobody wants another Shadman situation.

>>150798203 (OP)
if you don't want the public to get a hold of it don't put it out in the public. deal with it or don't but for the love of fuck don't invoke the streisand effect.

>>150798262
>>but I NEED porn of this random person’s character who isn’t even part of an established brand!
yes

>>150815389
i honestly didnt realize the flapjacks character was based on the creators actual son
didnt care anyways

>>150814302
its just embarressing how bad his official incest stuff of vgcatz was. like fr bro, hes been drawing how long and he was getting paid to do it? you accepted the commissions, i dont care if they were based on your real, dead cats. leo and aeris deserved better official smutt

>>150813349
It's wrong to depict female characters is sexually appealing situations because they can't consent to looking sexy. However we have absolutely no qualms about frequently subjecting them to mild to severe beatings, struggles in their private social lives including having their loved ones leave them or suffer or die. In fact we might even kill the character themselves just to try and rack up sales. Have characters be raped, murdered, succumb to incurable diseases (both fictional and horribly real), make their lives constant agonising struggles, strip them of their moral codes and even their very sanity, have them sell their first born and their marriage to Satan, have them fuck Satan, have them go through a miscarriage (which to many is just as real as losing a child), bring back their dead loved ones just to kill them again, we can do all that and more, and nobody bats an eye, but fucking christ will we never hear the end of it when it comes to Powergirl's boob window or how short Wonder Woman's skirt is. God forbid we have Spider-woman climb over a ledge in a slightly sexy way on a variant cover, and people will still melt down over that.

>>150801996
Says the faggots who endlessly bitch and harass people when a fan artist draw a PoC character with too much illumination or with the wrong tone of brown colors

>>150798230
Fpbp

When you put yourself on a pedestal, you better be ready for what's coming

>>150798230
>>150798296
>>150801011
>>150800761
>>150806466
Why do you people seem to be okay with these degeneracies of characters you like, and why do you so defensive about it? I mean with the current situation of remake, and spin-offs, and reboots of IP, and people with their disrespectful interpretation like parodies. You could at least be mad about it just like everyone else?

>>150798230
I SPECIFICALLY ASKED YOU TO MAKE FANART OF THE DAD & MOM FUCKING, HELL I EVEN ACCEPT LESBIAN ART OF THE DAUGHTERS, AT LEAST THEY'RE NOT FIGHTING.
BUT DAD/DAUGHTER OR MOM/DAUGHTERS ARTWORK IS DISGUSTING.

WHY CAN'T YOU JUST FUCK YOUR WIFE LIKE A NORMAL PERSON?

You don't want to open the can of worms that comes with "anything that makes a person uncomfortable should never happen".

>>150802241
he said very little for one and no for the other. learn to read

>>150806813
>[
What would have happened If Its same replies to you but with troon too? (not genderbend to be specific.)

I just want more wonderbread art.

>>150816227
Look, I don't like Korra either, but even I wouldn't produce such horridly cruel and mean-spirited art depicting her torture, as you do with her. Like geez man.

>>150815944
The key is not being mad about it in the first place. That these are just drawings, toons, pictures of concepts that exist only by our imagination and don't affect the real world. That parody is a necessary component of literature for it allows the use of humor to analyze and critique things which are normally considered sacred cows, showing that not even the gods are above scrutiny or reproach. That the current glut of remake, spinoff, and reboots are just yet another long string of corporate greed and should have no influence on you or whatever associations you give to these fictional beings save what you allow it.

Basically, I'm not mad just cause someone drew a toon with bigger boobs cause they're not real, and neither should you since there's more important shit in the world to care about.

What if its the creator who actually orders all the weird stuff of his creations?

>>150816430
Ok, that is just awesome, mate.

>>150816430
ayyyy

>>150798262
Then why did you make them sexy, artbro?

>>150811374
Isn't that artist who also made that distasteful doujin of Emma a Victorian Romance, and Yotsubato? I don't actually care about his original works, I'm just pissed off what he did to those characters I care. ( Didn't read it, by the way, but still general piss off.)

>>150799144
I did this and the results were VERY satisfying

>>150798203 (OP)
I feel like once you make your character available to the public it's free game.

>>150799144
and then pretend its not for porn reasons

god that was pathetic

>>150816709
>I feel like once you make your character available to the public it's free game.
I wish this happen to the public domain characters too. they really deserve some love and exposure from general public.

>>150816758
fanservice is one of those things that should never be directly encouraged. Just ship the sexy soldier girls in slutty swimwear and deny deny deny.

>>150816793
nah, im 100% more okay with 2b and all that shit compared to that shit of "you will be ashamed of your words and deeds when you learn the reason" shit kojima did with quiet. lmao bro just come out and say it, you just wanted to bang digital joost. theres already a 2 hour long video of her with the horse complete with all the way through and like 9 other fetishes you dont need to pretend anymore man, just say it la creatividad

>>150816652
It's Mai-tan's daily life, by Eaita Uziga.
Emma is by Kaoru Mori, and I'm not sure what yotsubato one you're talking about, but I believe you're thinking of Shindol.
Shindol for the record is the one that did Metamorphosis, by the way, and IIRC, even he was shocked by the response he got from the Yotsubato one. It's pretty tame in comparison to Mai-tan, but that's one of the few that really upset me.

>>150817160
>>150816652
>Emma is by Kaoru Mori
Wait, disregard, I suck cocks, I just realized you said the doujin

>>150798203 (OP)
Whoever made this is deeply insecure about their art, or at least they were at the time they made it.

>>150816430
Finally.

>>150798203 (OP)
Lol what. Can't we leave this 2016 shit in the past

>>150817336
https://youtu.be/jaYFLur0KQk?si=KOAxAP0Z6YOcMZO9&t=61

>>150800892
>edgelord or psycho mentality
Being sensitive is a sign of emotional intelligence and cognitive development. Being insensitive is not better than being over-sensitive and these two extremes clashing will always beggets short-term over-reactions and a more long-term over-correction (censorship to not deal with any bullshit from both sides). Sleep with dogs, wake up with fleas...

>>150811374
>There's no doubt that someone probably followed up with eye socket porn and sent it to him right after that post.
Indeed. I bet it happens on a regular basis thanks to that screenshot being reposted periodically throughout the years.
Like seriously this advice has existed since time immemorial
>SHUT THE FUCK UP!
It's not an insult or a dericive dismissal. It's the right thing to do.

>>150813349
>i am such a mental child that i beleive that cartoons are real in another dimension and have minds.

>>150817475
>Being sensitive is a sign of emotional intelligence
Yeah, when applied to real world situations like helping someone who is injured rather than pointing and laughing at them. Not in fiction though, because it's not fucking real. Fictional characters have no feelings, it's impossible to be insensitive to them and people who are more emotionally sensitive about r34 of their OCs than they are of real people being subject to real trauma are self-absorbed faggots.

>>150811366
Unironically this

>>150817520
So essentially...

>>150798203 (OP)
Once you put an idea out there no matter how big no matter how small its out there. Once you let others know it's no longer yours it just is. Some big ideas make big changes some little ideas make little changes but bother are no longer yours once it's out there.

>>150817824
Communism doesn’t work. KYS.

>>150817824
Copyright

>>150817591
Who told you to direct your sensibility at fictional characters in this scenario? It's about listening/assessing the problem and elevating the debate if you think you did nothing wrong in the context/the demand is abusive, rather than act out of spite like an asocial contrarian and retard.

>>150816430
this could be you, /co/

368 replies and I've yet to see someone come up for an argument for why it's wrong for a creator to request this if you don't even have to listen to them.
I agree that it's different if they start issuing legal threats, but I don't really see why getting assravaged over being asked not to do something isn't the same as the artist getting assravaged over people making the stuff in the first place. It's immaturity all around.

You HAVE artistic freedom and freedom of expression. You don't get to live completely unopposed, though. Just like they don't get to police what happens to their characters, you don't get to cry when people think you're a bad person for doing so.

>>150817865
Not a commie basted fuck that stupid system a doctor 100% deserves to make more money than a dogwalker.

>>150817875
And parody and criticism people have all right to mock your idea.

>>150798203 (OP)
Literally no artist making relevant stuff cares what some corner of an autistic fanbase does to their characters. This is exclusively the domain of twitter donut steel autistic reject children getting defensive over their "OCs".

>>150817954
>368 replies and I've yet to see someone come up for an argument for why it's wrong for a creator to request this if you don't even have to listen to them.
Because no one was arguing they couldn't, unless you want someone to be contrarian, it isn't going to happen.

>>150817954
It's not "wrong" but it is stupid and if anything, more likely to Streisand the opposite outcome. Anons, particularly, are acutely aware of that fact and find it funny anyone would ever have any other expectation.

>>150817954
>I've yet to see someone come up for an argument for why it's wrong for a creator to request this if you don't even have to listen to them.
That's where the discussion begins and ends, anon. The people who would listen to the creator in the first place would already be too busy thinking of the creator's feelings to willfully do something to make them upset. And the people who wouldn't listen sure as shit wouldn't pay any mind to this comic. It's basically just whining.

Though I just personally disagree that an artist gets to dictate what other people decide to draw on their own time and their own terms, just because they made the original. If they don't want to see it themselves, fine. If they don't want it shoved in their face by fans, that's fine too. But to dictate what fans can and can't create is the equivalent of an adult seeing a kid play with a teddy bear the used to own and then asserting "This is my toy you're borrowing, and you don't get to play with it unless you do it the way I want you to". Like, writers can do or request whatever they want, it just makes you look insecure and petty since you're basically policing people on how to treat an idea.

That and it never fucking works when you try it anyways. Remember the guy who made the "Feels Good" frog tried to write a comic depicting his funeral to protest the frog's usage outside of his comic, which caused every single rare pepe in the wild to suddenly delete itself out of existence? Of course you don't, because when he did that the internet just kept on making more of them in response. That's the point. Once you've unleashed it onto the internet, you the creator have as much control over an idea or a meme as you do over the entirety of the human unconsciousness. The only things you can do at that point are are fruitlessly fight against it or just acknowledge the reality of it.

>>150801996
mm wasn't like girl like minor or something

>>150811366
100% correct.

>>150818178
Iirc she was 16 which would be legal in a lot of states.
But honestly, letting your "child" dress that provocatively in the first place should be grounds for CPS investigation.

>>150817954
See >>150814633

>>150818178
>>150818265
What are you fags even talking about?

>>150817770
>>150818248
You're on /co/

>>150818278
This girl. it's from a old public access show. got viral recently

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vBrLy-C3LM

>>150818278
RawTime section in the 90s where a 16 year old goth girl would take song requests, but mostly resulted in her getting harassed and her firing back.
https://youtu.be/_eZR9T_XD34?si=OuBnKqR6LEB-OtRc

>>150798203 (OP)
>You uploaded it to the internet. You put your character in front of me to profit from it in one form or another. Why? You think that only you should transform thoughts into art?

>>150798262
And now we mirror this back to your side and:
>I can't survive if people make porn of the characters I posted publicly!
Stop thinking you can control what people say do on the internet, woman.

>>150818288
And?

>>150818338
>>150818352
Disappointing lack of tits given the fan art from >>150801996

>>150798203 (OP)
Pretty much sums up how people excuse their behaviours these days, It's a (current) generational thing. No respect. It's all about me because fuck you. Social media was a big mistake.

>>150798203 (OP)
It stops being yours when you make it a product.
>b-b-but-
No.

>>150798203 (OP)
stfu.
You have a complaint that's cool doesn't mean anyone has to care, you don't get to have boundaries about how other people's decisions unless you can make that happen legally.
Feel free to sue everyone who ever wants to make a fan art and enforce your will but thanks to AI that's probably impossible and your bitch ass should read line 1 again and seethe in private.
stfu.

>>150819598
you hate america!
you love the terrorist!!

>>150816430
How are people sleeping on this, just absolute excellence.

>>150798203 (OP)
As soon as you release your idea unto another mind, you cannot control what that mind will do to your idea.

>>150798203 (OP)
people are being bombed to death in their homes and starving in most of the world
and then you have two chronic losers since middle school who are either
>huuur im a porn addicted crypto pedophile that must live with no sense of shame or self respect
or
>huurr im to retarded and self righteous to just get off the internet if something bothers me and i hecking just MUST get le upset over this thing and take a STAND

i hate both of you and i want both to bleed from their assholes

>>150819833
>woooow how dare you have hobbies when people are dying
People will always be dying, yet we must create.

>>150808851
>I still remember the deviantart days where artists were bullied over having a character NOT be gay
>were

>>150798203 (OP)
This is terrible! If only we had some kind of digital ID system to stop this from happening!

>>150819867
it will soon be your turn to die

>>150819895
>ctrl v
>ctrl c
no

>>150819833
If you hate people without shame you should probably stop hanging around somewhere everyone is anonymous. Because having shame somewhere you have no identity would be pretty fucking weird. Shame is for protecting your reputation. Anons have no reputation to uphold.

>>150819964
fucking bugman automaton take
shame is for protecting your self respect and dignity

>>150798203 (OP)
>literally every single art of her oc posted online is horny
>i dont want to see my oc in horny situations
???

>>150819913
You can say that to anyone.

>>150819989
In real life, sure. The internet is not real life, certainly 4chan isn't. I don't know what happened to make people think it is.

>>150819989
>he thinks he has dignity and he uses 4chan
Your dignity has the integrity of tissue paper.

>>150806736
>Consensual snuff
You mean like assisted suicide?

>>150820105
In an enthusiastic and gory manner, sure.

>>150798203 (OP)
make me

>>150820012
>noooo don't sexualize me!!!!
>cleary hornybaiting with art and posts
I hate women like this

>>150820362
>I hate women like this
anon you probably can only count on one hand the number of people who do this
you don't "hate" them

>>150820157
Based

>>150816430
rape

>>150820012
>>150820362
To be honest, I hated that guy for the Astrid pic he drew. I wish I could kill him If I have the chance.

>>150814332
Most of what we see from the fans is neither artistic nor freedom.

>>150816767
I guess becoming popular is part of the free game.

>>150798203 (OP)
Here, I fixed it.

>>150820789
kek'd, but also that font you've used on the bottom panel is mesmerising Anon, like if I focus on one word it's like it becomes bold compared to the others. What the fuck.

>>150798506
>>150798813
>>150799297
>>150799766
>>150800655
>/co/ is unironically okay with this
>and also like to sucking Seth Green's cock
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34w4KBBQ0_w

>>150820789
base—
>feet
you came so close to greatness

>>150801996
Spotted the nigger

>>150820515
>To be honest, I hated that guy for the Astrid pic he drew.
How?

>>150820789
Porn is a Jewish psyop.

>>150820930
It said weird stuff so I just assumed the person who drew the OP image meant fetish art, I just picked feet because it's obvious for that joke

>>150821046
If that the case, what does the Atheist fit into the category way before the Jew?

>>150816457

>game about furry kids facing horrors of war
>with sequels that are basically furry misery porn
>manga adaptation where children are killed and mutilated in the most disturbing ways
>cutesy shorts on youtube
>collaborations with THREE gay themed videogames

what is their endgame?

>>150821046
Based jews!
They really are God's chosen people!

>hmm, if I go against this person's wishes, that'll totally make them like me!
>WTF, why are they mad at me when I did the thing they said not to do? Fuck that guy, now I'm going to spam him messages of the thing he said not to do!

>>150820515
>the Astrid pic
You should see what else he's done.

>>150813349
This is what "Don't coom to this OC!!!!!" fags support btw.

>>150818863
If you're actually against freedom of expression you're outing yourself as the biggest fucking newfags
No Anon here gives a flying fuck about creator consent over fictional characters
Do we need consent over drawing OC or making elaborate projects that go nowhere?
Fuck no

>>150816430
This is the proper response.

>>150798230
Absolutely based
The sheer audacity of telling people what they can or can’t draw.

>>150816430
He should be blushing

>>150813349
These are the people who'll use words like "unalive" and still tell you they have a more mature and grounded view of the world. Its up to YOU to tell them to fuck off or they'll infest your hobbies.

>>150813349
what if i want to depict rape?

>>150820515
Mossa drew like pretty Aryan softcore porn and then like the last couple of months he does aesthetically evil pictures. At this stage of the Collapse, someone that makes ugly suffering pictures they are cleaving towards demons and not towards Christ. It's sad he's fallen so far.

some of you try your damn hardest to be a victim under any circumstance

>>150811374
I hate this manga so much. For now nearly twenty years it lives rent-free inside my mind, after I had the awful idea to look it up after someone having it mentioned here (probably /b/). I know the problem is on me. I'm just too soft for stuff like this, but man... I want my innocence back.

>>150823980
>mfw haven't read it
>mfw haven't read emergence
>mfw haven't read geiger counter
Ignorance is bliss.

>>150824121
>Emergence
Barely fucking counts. It's fucked up, but in a "Sad adult depressing story" way, not "Insane demented fucked up shit that should get you put on a list". There are mainstream anime with more "horrible" stories than Emergence. The only difference is that they only show the small girl being kidnapped by the yakuza instead of showing what happens afterward.

>>150816430
Now that's pod racing

>>150824121
>>mfw haven't read emergence
>>mfw haven't read geiger counter
Emergence is legitimately impressive h-work as long as you don't read it to the end, at which point it takes whatever you were getting off to and throws it in your face full-force.
That's just par-the-course for Shindol in general, the dude has genuine talent, it's just that half the time his conclusions are depressing as fuck.

>>150798203 (OP)
Why do I feel op doesn't know the established rules of the internet? Is she stupid?

>>150823930
you're a schizo

>>150823930
>and then like the last couple of months he does aesthetically evil pictures.
Bro, mossa was drawing loli guro porn like a decade ago, he's just become more vanilla over the last few years.

>>150824121
>>mfw haven't read geiger counter
Geiger counter isn't that bad on its own, it's just that the ending and context is depressing. One of those that goes into actual consequences of rape. Fire Cracker is probably the next closest equivalent I can think of, but I'm curious how many people on 4chan even remember that one anymore.
Fuck me, I've been here too long.

I saw that Twitter thread. A lot of kids arguing, with no irony, that drawing porn of a character is sexual harassment or even CP if the character was drawn up by a kid. Zoomers won't stop until you get thrown in jail just for looking at their OCs wrong.

>>150824121
>Tfw I've read all of those
>And also all of shiruka bakaudon's stuff (including her ongoing manga)

The comic with extreme rape and torture didn't happen if you draw an ending page that says that it was a porn shoot!

Man, I wish people would draw porn of my OCs.

>>150820515
He got doxxed lol

>>150820515
Boo fucking hoo. Do you also hate directors who do movies about real murders?

And it was Polyle who did the infamous Astrid picture, bless him.

>>150798203 (OP)
I call it "advertising". If it weren't for fan arts, you wouldn't be as popular.

>>150798203 (OP)
>>150798262
>post something on the internet
>expect rule of the internet 34 to suddenly not apply
skill issue through and through, normies should never have had access to the internet

>>150817954
Literally loads of people said it's fine for creators to ask, just that it's unlikely anybody will care or honor their request. Try fucking reading the thread.

>>150816430
The king of this thread

>>150824551
Latinx

>>150820964
How is he nigger the only I'm seeing is you for an opinion.
>Facepalm

>>150820012
I feel like I've seen people draw some lewds of her lately

>>150820012
Next time just don't tell them, Or don't upload it online.
>>150820362
something something it's only okay when I do it and her oc being just her in cartoon form, plus Mossa can make art that I couldn't blame you for finding distasteful.

why not just be normal?

>>150805274
it's a girl insult, usually used by people too afraid of confrontation to use actual criticism or name-calling

>OCs
>12 results
kys yourself

>>150829710
This. It's a term only women use, like himbo, smexy, rapey, or smut.

>>150820390
and he hates every single one so he's batting 1000, I don't know why you're trying to move goalposts

>>150798203 (OP)
i find it funny that the guy who made that girl from bioshock said something like this only for her to become the most used model for sfm porn.

>>150798203 (OP)
When you're releasing your own art into the public, you're gonna have some people make wild as fuck art of said character. That is just going to happen and saying, "hey, don't do that!" Is going to make some of them do the opposite in an extreme manner. The best thing to do is block what you don't like and continue making what makes you happy.

>>150829910
lmao. how was there any argument in this thread? it should have all been this kind of thing

>>150824403
That is based?

>>150805997
I remember that blind girl bullying guy. It was his own OC yet people got weirdly defensive about it.

>>150813349
This better be bait. Otherwise, you're retarded.

>>150830567
babby's first meany story and lots of kids and normies who can't separate fiction from reality. Hopefully for them they never find the particularly mean-spirited NTR doujins, they'd kill themselves

>>150801996
Thank you. Attacking pedo groupthink is good and they needed to hear this. Maybe they'll deal with their issues and look in the mirror.

>>150816430
That is it. This post single-handedly mogged the other posts. >>150829910 This one is a close second.

>>150830871
Nobody said anything about pedos. Also please note that obvious bait you agreed with (presuming you're not just the same anon samefagging) is using a sexualised 3D render of a real person which I doubt they consented to, the exact thing they're pretending to complain about.

>>150830921
Actually, if that girl was actually 16 like the anons said, the art is about 50 million times worse than what OP was bitching about.

>>150798203 (OP)
I love when people try to act like making someone uncomfortable or not listening to them is an immoral thing to do and then you remind them that opposing feelings also exist, then they just show they only care about the feelings that serve their own and reveal their hypocrisy.

>>150830992
20 layers of irony

I will say this if you basically steal another Artist design for you to lewd as you own "OC", then you're the dick.

>>150831003
What do you mean by this

>>150805476
>"""Horses"""

>>150831016
This is the purple girl OC from LSmark

>>150824121
Ahem.
Oyster

>>150831431
Oyster is such an edgelord it's funny

>>150831431
>>150831441
You know, I didn't even read it. But I did glance some of the few pictures a little bit for a quick peek. And boy do I really regret looking at those things, and I wasn't expected that happen, I thought It was gonna be an old lady porn because of the tag I was searching up. Hopefully I could forget all of those thing I could remember.

>>150831528
>He just looked the pictures
The real misery is to be found in the context and story.
Now I've said that you'll be haunted by it until your curiosity dooms you

>>150798203 (OP)
If the Artist draws other peoples characters, including trademarked ones, then it should be ok to draw that Artists characters too.

>>150798203 (OP)
Personally, I would be honored if someone made lewds of my character.

>>150798262
I raise an eyebrow when people insist on making r34 of things like Simpsons or Bluey. Really is not hot to start with and very weird to make porn out of a children's show.

>>150831713
>when people insist on making r34 of things like Simpsons
I kinda get it with the Simpsons. Both it and Futurama get pretty racy on occasion, and pretty early on at that, so it's going to attract that type of crowd.

>>150831713
Emotional attachment is more attractive than any level of physical appeal.

>>150798203 (OP)
This is not twitter

>>150830888
i'm a huge fan of this one>>150806466

The party is over. Time to banana split out of my club!

>>150801138
>we like your character
>that's why we draw them being defiled in the most humiliating and degenerate ways that we know would be seen as disgusting to the average person
Yep. I can't recall which character it was, but I remember a bondage artist drawing somebody in shibari with the dialog "...Why is this how you guys express your love?" while looking at the viewer with a face like pic related

>>150833818
Shibari isn't exactly the most degenerate thing I can think of, but OK.

>>150811366
I like to engage while posting coom in the same post when I like the character.
Its like the 4chan equivalent of taking a friend to your favorite food spot because you want them to also experience it

>>150811366
>You don't have to be a coomer
And you don't have to go hunting for coomers to complain about.

>>150798203 (OP)
Stop