>Who is /fat/ for?
For rotund rabbits working towards a longer life and a better physique through meaningful hard-work, strategy, and dedication. This is not QTDDTOT, stick to questions on fat loss. Post height and weight when asking for advice.
Join our Fatty Contest: https://www.fattycontest.com/

>What do I do first?
1. Read https://physiqonomics.com/fat-loss/
2. Calculate your Body Fat Percentage: https://fitness.bizcalcs.com/Calculator.asp?Calc=Body-Fat-Navy
3. Calculate your TDEE: https://www.sailrabbit.com/bmr/
Remember to use bodyfat% and use Katch-McArdle Formula with sedentary settings or your TDEE will be too high.
4. Plan your weight loss: https://www.losertown.org/eats/cal.php
5. Track your nutrition with MyFitnessPal (better for packaged food), Cronometer (better for generic food/macros), LoseIt (great for both), or Waistline (FOSS).

>Now what?
Count calories, all of them.
Eat about 500-1000 less calories than your TDEE.
Buy scales, be accurate.
Learn to cook. Try to stick to lean protein and green vegetables.
Eat a lot of protein. 0.72g per pound of goal lean body mass.
Doing cardio, even just walking, will improve your health. There is no such thing as a healthy fat heart, but you can offset the risks.
Lifting weights will keep and gain muscle mass and lose fat much quicker. Not lifting results in the body eating away muscle AND fat.
Drink more water.
Read the /fit/ sticky: https://liamrosen.com/fitness.html

>DON'T
Eat refined sugars, they're terrible for you regardless of calories.
Eat processed foods.
Drink your calories (alcohol, soda, Starbucks).
Freak out over a weight loss stall. Plateaus can last up to three weeks.
"Reward" yourself. Cheat days cheat only yourself.

>Other resources:
Loose skin, gynecomastia & stretch marks: https://weight-loss-side-effects.netlify.app/
Reddit Wiki: https://www.reddit.com/r/loseit/wiki/faq

Previous thread: >>76343292

clothes shopping is so much fun when you are fit.

Can't wait to be under 78kg. Today I ate a lot but I went to the gym and walked 4.4 miles. It's good to see progress, but I'm not gonna lie, I wished it was all over and I could focus on other things other than losing weight.

What is your hr during a walk?

Today I did 3 miles at 3.5 mph. I was surprised my heartrate was only in the low 90s

Fatty Contest
Makima's Footstool
132.1

OMAD = 1 Raising Canes Box Combo + sweet tea

I'm okay with this

>>76347042 (OP)
what weightloss drugs have you taken?

I'm looking at Clenbuterol, but Cardarine is also possible

>>76346279
Another fatty did the same thing like a few weeks ago, what's it with fatties binging on watermelon? I'm kinda afraid to buy one now.

Fatty Contest
Makimas Footstool
132.1kg

How do I get my family to stop having unhealthy diets? I've explained the basics to them but they never put it in to practice. They're all overweight and starting to have health issues.

>>76343669
my thighs were killing me at work today. i dont want to take an off day so ill probably just walk and try to jog smaller portions of the route. im sure itll get better over time but damn, even rollerblading for 10 miles didnt feel this rough.

>>76347369
Can't force them to. Just eat better yourself and hope they follow your lead

>>76347369
you have to force them to. lock them in a room and give them nothing but water.

The guy who was gonna lose 50lbs in a month again, he didn't even make it 1 day this time kek what a failure.

>>76347130
I'm sub-zone 1 now when I walk, I have to jog to get up to zone 3 then I walk and coast down to zone 1 at which point I jog again to get myself back up to zone 3

I'm currently in the Philippines on vacation and I have to be on a calorie deficit since I am not eating that much because I would have to travel so far to get a good mix of foods. I dunno, rampant drinking might be tamping down on it though

>Started at 317lb while at college (left)
>Over time, got down to 227lbs (middle)
>Now working full-time in an office, I have managed to undo most of this progress, now 270lbs (right)

It's so much more annoying doing this the second time, knowing I'd done it already & let it get away. I have bold plans to get to the same position as middle by Christmas, although that may be too ambitious. Still we try.

>>76347656
this time you need to lift weights

>>76347656
You are so fat and ugly that suicide is a viable option.

>>76347682

I am finally strong/not fat enough to do assisted pull ups.
Is it a good idea to switch over to that from lat pulldowns?
I do upper body twice a week and currently my back exercises consists of barbell rows, seated rows on a machine(no cable) and lat pulldown.

Weighing in tomorrow
6 days of vacation eating out 3 meals a day
It's gonna be bad lmao

>blew past calorie goal by 1000 calories from ice cream, burgers and fries
>still probably lost weight because I took almost 30,000 steps, many of them incline, walking around Busch Gardens
Good day.

>>76347715
>probably

>>76347715
Ngmi

how do you people sit down and plan 7 breakfasts, 7 lunches and 7 dinners a week, along with the energy to prepare them all? i can't do all that shit man, lunch maybe, maybe breakfast, but not dinner......

maybe i should skip dinner and just do breakfast and lunch. breakfast can be a couple eggs and some bacon and toast, lunch can be a turkey sandwich on sourdough with a tuna packet and a rice cake or something, and if i take a couple scoops of psyllium husk i should be able to make it through dinner to sleep. that should work right?

>>76347842
>how do you people sit down and plan 7 breakfasts, 7 lunches and 7 dinners a week, along with the energy to prepare them all? i can't do all that shit man, lunch maybe, maybe breakfast, but not dinner......
most days i eat the same for lunch and dinner. in general, i don't have a lot of food variety anymore, because food shouldn't be a source of pleasure, at least for me. I do this because i noticed that all my really thin friends view eating as an annoying necessaty that's to be dealt with as quickly as possible and with as little effort as possible.

>>76347842
I just kept it as simple as I could. Two meals a day, each meal consisting of meat, small portion of carbs and mixed veg. So chicken, potatos and mixed veg for example. I honestly think it is impossible to go over your caloric limit with two meals like that. I've lost 130lbs doing this. I won't lie it's kind of ruined food for me but it's better than being an obeast.

>>76347168
Meme tier garbage, just eat less. If youre that committed to taking pills to lose a tiny bit of extra weight take an eca stack

>>76347842
I do OMAD I spend like half my calories on lean protein, a quarter on fibrous vegetables, and what's left on starchy vegetables. My fridge is full of this stuff, so when its meal time I just pick one item from each category and get cooking.

>>76347842
>how do you people sit down and plan 7 breakfasts, 7 lunches and 7 dinners a week, along with the energy to prepare them all?
Are you a literal child?
I know i am a retarded neet but its not that difficult
Just eat lean meats with vegtables for dinner and/or lunch
For breakfast eat some hard bread, whole-wheat, or eggs or if you can get it some kvarg or some greek yoghurt with fruits that you like
Eating this breakfast takes no energy and like 2-3 minutes to fix
Do some sallad in a big bowl or cook and prepare vegetables for a couple of days and then you just have to cook the meat or whatever you are having

cheated a bit this weekend lads but fuck it seem to be losing weight anyway

>>76347842
>>76347871
This is the best method imo, keep it super simple at least until youre in the routine. It sounds a bit boring but eating for nutrition doesnt have to be muh heckin culinary adventure all the time.

Is 3 x 8 a good place to start if I want to add some kind of resistance training to my fat loss plan? I’m thinking of picking one exercise that will cover a push, pull, hinge and squat movement and doing it 2 to 3 times a week.

>>76347682
Feel free to post your beautiful body, which you won't, because you're in the fat loss thread, because you're fat as well.

Fatty Contest
Fetto
81.0 kg

Fatty Contest
ReodorFelgen
83.7kg

Penultimate weigh-in before 3 week summer vacation, where I plan to eat freely without pigging out completely. I had hoped to reach 80kg before then but I guess I started a little too late, but I'm not gonna complain. I'm very happy with my rate.

Fatty Contest
GuidoGolem
211.6lbs

>struggling with staying away from food
>eating slop and takeout again
>getting back some of the weight I already lost
>suddenly get very comfortable being hungry
>stomach growling but I feel no pressure to go eat
>maintain 1600 kcal for 2 weeks, progress is great again
am I dying, or something?

>>76348360
>maintain 1600 kcal for 2 weeks
You're fine.

>>76348360
its probably time to incorporate refeed/cheat days

>>76348382
...I thought cheat days only cheat yourself.

Fatty Contest
AngloSperg
275.4

Good morning, frens. My initial weight was at 267.8 as of March 27th, I dropped down to 228lbs in 40days, but have been stagnant weight wise since fathers day, hovering between 230 and 228, diet hasnt been what it should be, but today is the refresher, capping calories to 1400 a day, and replacing my run with an incline walk until at least one drop of sweat falls from the brim of my hat. Walked at an incline of 10 for 43:39 minutes, burned 408 calories (My Treadmill doesnt have a weight input feature so its probably closer to 500) Goal is to be at 200lbs by Halloween. Stay Strong.

>>76348388
Cheat days can have a lot of meanings so I'll just call it a refeed. Pick a day once every week or two weeks where you eat at TDEE. It will help reset your hormones, and give you energy to continue your diet. It's also good practice for maintaining when you finally drop all the weight.

>>76348405
you dropped 40 lbs in 40 days and your goal is to lose 28 in the next 116 days?

okay.

I'm an alcoholic. I've gained 30kg. I need to lose it. Please pray for me.

>>76348412
doing maintenance weeks seems to have a greater effect:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8HVdLMnr40M

>>76348422
have you tried to just stop buying alcohol?
shit's expensive

>>76348419
Yup. If im burning 400 calories a day with my incline walk, and then capping my caloric intake to 1400 a day based on my math, ill be burning an excess of 1,800 calories a day, or 12,600 a week, which would translate to 3.6lbs per week, but I know as I get closer to my goal that number will get smaller, ill probably achive it by early September, but im just giving myself a cushion.

>>76348388
>>76348360
Don't listen to that guy wtf. Feeling hunger is fine, and since you don't feel the need to pig out, you're in the right zone. Keep at it

>>76348430
I've got the money from family but you're right, it's expensive. I just need to numb myself.

>>76348457
Feeling so hungry that you eat slop and takeout is not fine. It's a sign that something is not sustainable.
And just like this video states >>76348424, studies show you lose the same amount of fat, preserve more muscle mass, have greater mood levels, and are more likely to keep the weight off after.

>>76348469
How much do you drink?
If you drink in the morning to fight the hangover it might be time to get yourself a proper professional help. Theres only so much anyone here can do to stop you from drinking

stalled for a while during a period of neeting. starting a part time warehouse job soon that should get the steps up

>>76348490
Around 15 standards every few days. Regarding hair of the dog, sometimes, but mostly no. It's only recent that I have the urge to drink. I used to be fit a year and a half ago but I lost my shit so I drink. My friends are gone, my family is aging and no help which is fair enough. I was in the psych ward a few months ago for an attempt and I didn't drink for a month but for some reason I've been numb since then and just been binging.
I will get fit again. I just don't know how to get out of this hole.

>>76347656
>Now working full-time in an office
another victim

>>76348523
If kill for a basic office job, I dont like driving Trucks/Box trucks.

>>76347656
You're way better than when you started out. MIddle is insane, imagine if you had kept it going.
Btw in case you ever give retards like >>76347682
any credit, my friend looks like middle and has a hot, fit, big booba blonde wife

>>76348517
How did you lose your shit?
Theres no need to destroy your health over external circumstances. My life is pretty shit too, but i dont care about what people think and i try to get the best out of what i have. Youre not helping your situation, sometimes its best to just be calm and let the storms pass you until you can chill in peace and do your thing

>>76348523
office jobs are honestly great. i got a well paying one with one of those bullshit positions where you barely do anything but act busy. i haven't worked a second of overtime yet, plus i work from home 4 days a week. last 15 minutes of my shift i get my stuff ready and i'm out the door for sports or social gatherings the second it's over. the only reason people with office jobs are fat is because it attracts lazy people in the first place

what I find hilarious is that there's unironic shills/paid advertisers posting about le heckin glp1erinos in here

like that faggot last thread

>>76348552
I know I'm not helping my situation. I'm nearly 30 and it scares me, it's stupid that I keep this up. I was in the psych ward a few months ago for an attempt but afterwards I drink. You're right, coming here to cope it stupid.

>>76348584
I didnt mean its stupid to talk about it, you should definitely talk about it, preferably with people IRL
Im sorry you went through that, i was in a psych ward too for unrelated things. Try to get your mind off the negative, go for a walk in nature, dont expect anything and just enjoy the scenery

how do you even let it get this bad? Like you have to be stuffing your face with pizza and soda EVERY day to get this fat. It's not like food is cheap either, you have to intentionally be trying to spend $20 a meal on fast food junk to get this fat.

Any tips to force a whoosh?

Lots of caffeine?

>>76348643
meant for >>76347656

>>76348643
Anon that's like 40% bad.
You have no idea how deep this rabbithole goes.

Rate my physique right now and my hair situation

>>76348677
Disgusting

>>76348566
>i got a well paying one with one of those bullshit positions
I should have fucking dropped software. Unironically prefer my old manual labor job than this underpaid shit.

>>76348643
Pft, thats nothing I was far fatter than him, all you need do is simply just not give a fuck what anyone else thinks, thats it. Yeah you're fat and look like shit but you don't care so it doesnt bother you... until one day it does and you then suddenly wonder how you let it get that bad.

Its surprisingly easy to just ignore an inconvenient truth. I did it for 34 years.

>>76348677
Personally I always rub my nips before taking a body pic. The chest always looks better with erect nipples, over sausage nips.

>>76348687
I hear jealousy not a real opinion

>>76348677
Keep working at it, you're still like 40lbs away from looking presentable.

>>76348635
I've tried but I'm gonna try to make sure my 30s aren't like my 20s

>>76348643
>Like you have to be stuffing your face with pizza and soda EVERY day to get this fat.
NTA, but, pretty much. I did it with chips, peanuts and other snacks, like 200-300 grams per day. Sweets and sodas too, of course, but to a lesser extent. All on top of 3 square meals every day. If it isn't obvious, I haven't had the healthiest relationship with food. Bored? Eat. Stressed? Eat. Angry? Eat until you're numb.
It's getting better now. Slowly but surely.

>>76348677
I'm in awe.
Physique is obviously not great, but you know that. Just keep losing weight.
The hair however you can and should fix. Go to a barber my man.

>>76348718
I meant my body hair :) my head hair looks nice when washed and brushed unlike that picture.
Im making progress on the physique I wonder if I just pivoted into body building rather than weight loss if itd be good
>>76348704
From being presentable? Steep journey but thats alright!

>>76348727
>I meant my body hair :)
Body hair is fine. You have strong body hair, but that's not necessarily a problem. Shave your armpits if it leads to smell, that's about it.
>I wonder if I just pivoted into body building rather than weight loss if itd be good
You're far too far off to go into body building. Lose the weight first. You can lift while doing so of course, but focus on getting leaner first, then you can think of the other stuff.

>>76348738
>Shave your armpits
Probably not the right thread for this, but how do you deal with extreme irritation and ingrown hairs after shaving? I'm not sure, but I feel like being fat makes it ten times worse.

>>76348703
You are revolting

>>76348422
Speak to a dr. If you can't be honest with your medical providers youre ngmi. There are treatments out there that help.

Broke a mini plateau
WAGMI

I ate pizza a couple times last week and I gained 2 pounds. What can I do, just stop eating junk altogether?

>>76348866
YOU CUTIE PATOOTIE GORGIN URSELF


hey /fat/ recommend me some good chicken breast recipes. Ideally not too high in saturated fat so I can help lose viseral fat.

>stopped myself from eating junk food with a banana
Now, I just need other fruits/vegetables for the next 4 days.

>>76348777
Post body I am sure many people find mine unbelievably sexy (but it will get slimmer)

>>76348880
But anon, banana is junk food. It's all sugar.

>>76348911
>ketotard

>>76348919
Even on CICO and IIFYM I have to try pretty hard to fit a banana in and not feel bad about it.

>>76348872
Salt chicken an hour before cooking
Hot pan
Use a thermometer so you dont overcooked

Thats literally all it takes

>>76348910
You are delusional

>>76348942
>salted chicken

anon I...

>>76348947
What, you don't salt your chicken? You sicko.

I'm NGMI

go on without me guys

>>76348929
What

>>76348929
Bananas are pretty low in calories, like 90 kcals for a large one. How tight is your limit that you cant fit that? Also they're high in manganese and potassium, they're far from junk food, or all sugar as you claimed. I will not stand for this blanket slander of God's most perfect fruit.

>>76348992
He means in his ass.

>>76348999
>manganese
Just found out that this is a thing..

>>76349003
Spend less time online

Fatty Contest
BetterNateThanLever
228.3 lbs

>>76321818
The picture I promised. Do you still think of me as a larper?

>>76348776
Sorry for the delayed response anon.
Depends on what you are shaving with.
In general, shave after a shower - that softens the hairs. If you don't want to shower, wet a towel with hot water and wrap that around the place you want to shave and wait a bit.
Then apply shaving foam onto the area and put a new blade onto the safety razor. Shave with that in a 45 degree angle. With a new blade you shouldn't have to apply any pressure. Better to do multiple passes with light pressure than one with strong.
Afterwards, apply cold water to cool the area and an aftershave if you want.
Even then the first week or so you'll have skin irritation, but that goes away.
Obviously being fat and having skin folds make it's harder, but not too much.

>>76349049
Keep larping kiddo. Garfield 2.0

home treadmill is a lifehack
play vidya all day while walking

>>76349151
>play vidya all day
Your job?

>>76348866
eat whatever you want, but track it and don't exceed your calorie budget

>>76349159
You jealous?

>>76349171
Nah, I did it for 2 years, and it's miserable.
Wagie job is miserable too, but it's not as soul-sucking.

>>76349173
>Wagie job is not as soul-sucking
Anon... No.

>>76349173
Wagie is miserable anon, vidya/hobbies/friends/whatever you enjoy all day is amazing
I will have to get a job at some point soon though

It's been exactly one month, progress has been a lot better than expected.
I don't feel hunger other than within an hour before it's time to eat, the foods I eat are really enjoyable and I'm losing that weight fast.
Feels good anon, wagmi.
I've still got a long way to go to 80 kgs, but I feel like it's actually achievable.

>>76349185
>Wagie is miserable anon
I know, but the idea of being a NEET in my 40s made playing video game way less enjoyable.
Now, I can play without having to worry about that.

>>76349187
Yeah, it's either that or build a cabin off-grid

>>76347042 (OP)
honk honk henlo frens I am getting back on the wagon today :DD time for 45 minutes of moderate treadmill activity! also I'm not going to eat today! we will all make it brothers!! greetings from india!!!

>>76349186
keep going and don't get discouraged if progress slows down or plateaus.

>>76349222
>keep going
Thanks anon, I plan to.
>and don't get discouraged if progress slows down or plateaus
That'll be the hard part, with the fast progress I made so far motivation is easy, we'll have to see if I'm strong enough to keep going when it stops or slows down. I think I have a few good systems in place though.

>>76349011
>american education

>check the nutrition facts of curry sauce bricks
>it's all carbs

>>76349187
>I know, but the idea of being a NEET in my 40s made playing video game way less enjoyable.
you've been poisoned by he jews.

Doing whatever you like, whenever you like is WAY better than > working for dr. shekel berg for $20 an hour or whatever poor wage that keeps you servient

>>76349331
what did you think it was gonna be?

>>76349351
Being able to actually afford things I like and even not have to worry about spending money on them is really nice though.

>>76347042 (OP)
I am fat. I want to lose weight
I'll be posting weight here daily so I get bullied into shape.
1,70 m
74,5 kg

>be me
>0,5kg less (1,1 lbs) this morning

>>76349363
>Being able to actually afford things I like and even not have to worry about spending money on them is really nice though.
that's why you need to retire early first not, work a minimum wage job.

>>76349365
>1,70 m
>74,5 kg
Nigga, you are just a little bit overweight.

>>76349383
unacceptable

>>76347168
Mounjaro for appetite reduction
Jardiance for peeing out sugar
Have clenbuterol on hand but don't want to use it during the summer

>>76349011
Manganese is the dialect of Japanese they speak in Mangas

>>76348583
Where the fuck is my payment then.

Feeling kind of lazy. Someone give me some words of encouragement to pump out some reps right now

>>76349539
bullying myself works for me

>>76349527
:|

>>76349539
Do it for him, if he wants to draft you to disembark on Iran's coast in the Arabian Golf like in D-Day.

>>76349541
I'll try it
>>76349564
LOL

>>76349351
>Doing whatever you like
Impossible on NEET status unless you are an absolute simpleton.
>>76349379
>that's why you need to retire early first not, work a minimum wage job.
So you're retired early are you? lmao
No, you're just a NEET collecting NEET bux like a black hood rat.

There is a balance between working like a slave and being a NEET which eludes autists on /fit/.

I'm breaking, only 10lbs from my goal weight and I've started binging and eating constantly. I can't stop......

>>76347042 (OP)
is 2 miles a day (2.5 mph) good enough?????????

>missing out on sleep again
>gonna have to urge to eat again.

>>76349600
don't do it fren u can be strong!

I just wanna say fuck it and eat some carbs

>>76349608

>>76349608
>>76349607

>>76349613
>>76349611
Yesterday I was close to buying slop.
It's bed time anyways. Night night

>>76349598
of pasta?
no
of walking?
if you're an obeast?
sure
if youre fat?
not enough

>sudden craving for salty foods since dieting
The ramens on the shelves look too appetizing.

>>76349617
how much more?????

FUCKING GORRILLAAAAA

>>76349608
>the """"""carbs"""""" in question

>>76347165
Why not increase volume in food

>>76349624
at least an hour of walking

Fatty Contest
Big Frigate
196 lbs

Catching the yoyo here
Was down to 188 3 weeks ago
That's kinda crazy

how do you know you are burning fat and not muscle?
I mean, if you train, you also gain muscle, and muscle weight.
how can you know you are burning just fat? it's harder to burn mucle or something?

>>76349681
Your body is a miracle of evolution
Its not so stupid that it would burn through its most important survival mechanism (muscles) over the designated storage for energy (fat)

>>76349689
cardio kills gains

>>76349681
>how do you know you are burning fat and not muscle?
because I eat enough protein and weight train

>>76349689
>evolution

>>76349693
>fat logic
You have no gains to lose, what are you worried about?

>>76349708
that does not answer the question, you just avoid it.

>>76349693
Cardio multiplies gains retard

>>76349681
Losing muscle is a meme. People just realize they didnt have as much muscle as they think when they cut down. As long as you arent going into single digit body fat % or doing an insane calorie deficit with minimal protein, youll be fine.

>>76349681
You burn muscle when you're on a calorie deficit but don't workout
You burn fat when you're on a calorie deficit and workout

Is there any lift or exercise that works both quads and hamstrings? Ideally more hamstring focused but anything is fine

>>76349741
squats
burpees if you can do it

>somehow developed severe iron deficíency
>start supplementing with iron
>feel great and refreshed a few weeks later
>cravings for electrolytes completely gone too
Literally how, I don't even bleed down there?

>>76349681
If you're eating enough protein and are doing some exericse chances are you are mostly (80%) losing fat.

>>76349723
>>76349727
>>76349758
nice, thanks.

Ordered my ozempic from sketchy online pharmacy. Lets hope this works out boys. After having my weight yo-yo and ultimately losing to the fat for my whole life. I feel hopeful but also worried they won't ship the shit or that its fake or gets over heated during the shipping proccess or whatever. Wish me luck

>>76349798
Good luck anon! You deserve a break after suffering your entire life.

Walking roughly 3.5 mph but my heart rate isn't raising nearly as much as it useful to. Im bouncing between 90 and 95 bpm the entire time

Damn. I hate treadmills so incline isn't an option. I guess I should be happy that my heartrate is dropping so much as I get in better shape, but it feels bad man.

>Decide to finally sign up for the gym today because I'm tired of being a big fatso who women reject
>go in
>young fit blonde qt behind the desk
>try to make small talk while signing up
>"yeah so it's a good thing im finally doing this - I swear, a year and a half of remote working and I've put on 50lbs!"
>qt's smile fades and she looks down
>"wow, that's horrible"
I admire her for saying it. I need this motivation to not be such a horrid pitiful flesh monster.

my food for today
>4 eggs (with 2 tablespoons of butter)
>2 deep fried pork shoulder cutlets breaded with pork rind panko
>~ a cup of curry sauce (somewhere like 200 calories)
>two lattes
what's my daily caloric intake here

>>76349798
Remember that unless you're on it for life, you will likely gain the weight back
Change your eating habits

>>76349826
At this point I'm not even doing it for women anymore. It's just become such an important part of my life that I do it out of anger and hate.

>>76349842
Remember that unless you change your eating habits for life, you will likely gain the weight back.

>>76349838
you tell me

>>76347042 (OP)
lost 37kgs (82lbs) and still got gyno tits, even had surgery when I was a teen and at this point im so close to giving up ffs, currently weight 73 kgs (161 lbs), ideal weight is probably 65 kgs (143 lbs) but that's without really having any muscle since I hate lifting

>>76349838
>4 eggs (with 2 tablespoons of butter)
4*90+2*100=560 kcals
>2 deep fried pork shoulder cutlets breaded with pork rind panko
impossible to know without knowing the size, maybe 1k together. Why the fuck would you deep fry them.
>~ a cup of curry sauce (somewhere like 200 calories)
>two lattes
depends on if homemade (~150 kcals each) or bought (~50000000 each)

So somewhere around 2k, say 2.5k to be safe.

>>76349864
lemme suck those titties

>>76349869
>Why the fuck would you deep fry them.
they taste good and since I made them myself I can avoid sneed oils (I fried them in lard)

>>76349870
they're hairy

>>76349864
>hates doing manly things
>is suprised his body looks like a womans

>>76349874
waxx em

>>76349842
nta but nigga who cares?
we've solved obesity. everyone knows how to get skinny. literally don't eat and take ozempic. if he gets fat again, guess what? just fucking inject some more ozempic

>>76349873
It's so many kcals for so little flavor gains, I'll never understand.
Anyways, all the sneed oils in the world are less unhealthy than being obese, so focus on that first before considering the rest.

>>76349873
seed oils arent worse than lard why the fuck is this myth still ongoing, use whatever fat source u prefer just use it in moderation, likely an olive oil spray or something

>>76349879
Uhm but sweaty what about all the unknown super scary side effects that weren't detected in 20 years of use in diabetics?

>>76349882
lots of grifters claiming it, lots of retards falling for the grifters

The schizoid shill is back...

>>76349876
i've tried lifting on like 5 separate occasions, my longest streak was 6 months i just cant be consistent lmao

>>76349882
Youtube/tiktok/instagram content creators can't just tell their illiterate viewership to follow clinical guidelines so they have to take some meme mechanistic study and turn it into a full blown conspiracy theory to generate clicks.
So from "heating up certain seed oils may not be healthy" you get´"dems gubermintn and dcotorz are LYING to you about da sneed oils and covid vaccine!"

>>76349882
>rendered down animal fat that people have been using for hundreds of years, before heart attacks were even a thing
vs
>ultra processed, chlorinated, bleached, and who knows what the fuck else pressed seed oils made from hundreds of thousands of seeds per tablespoon of oil that were initially made to be engine lubricant
oookay chubs

>>76349887
You will take ze ozempic.
You will drink ze insect protein powder shake.
You will own nothing.
And you will be happy.

>>76349899
>old good
>modern bad
uh huh, you're not gonna say that when you're in the hospital or when you're using all those modern devices for daily comfort

>>76349899
>rendered down animal fat that people have been using for hundreds of years, before heart attacks were even a thing
Fucking Ötzi had heart disease you lying negro.

>>76349907
>the food that humans have been eating for hundreds of years will kill you soon! two more weeks!
okay

>>76349917
Back in the good old days people died either as kids or in their 40s to early 60s.

>>76349879
the side effects are a bit scary and it once again doesn't really promote healthy eating habits, it shouldn't be given to ppl without proper habit changes first just like weight loss surgery

>>76349917
might as well go back on a raw food diet since that's what the cavemen ate

>>76349917
>the food that has been proven in controlled studies and long term research to be not just safe, but actually beneficial will kill you soon! two more weeks !

>>76349924
the scientists are all lying to you man, you gotta stop being an NPC!!

>>76349920
>the side effects are a bit scary
Diarrhea is preferable to obesity.
>and it once again doesn't really promote healthy eating habits
Eating less is a healthy eating habit. Everything else is statistically not a long term solution.
>it shouldn't be given to ppl without proper habit changes first just like weight loss surgery
If we gave every fat person GLP1 and told them to take a multivitamin with it and some low fat, high protein yogurt, obesity rates would plummted to extremely low levels and disease would be cut by 50% or more.
But I guess it is easier to morally judge fat people and promote some vague lifestyle changes instead of just offering a simple solution that doesn't require anything.

>>76349882
>seed oils arent worse than lard
they are much worse

>>76349952
Seed oils are extremely healthy and everyone who claims otherwise is a retarded LMHR-ACK ketard.

>>76349931
>Diarrhea is preferable to obesity.
not the only side effect, literal cancer seems to be one and nobody should be taking that risk
>Eating less is a healthy eating habit.
doesn't really become a habit when you start getting hungry again once the drug dose stops

giving every fatty the drug wont change shit, most fatties do not want to change their lifestyle, they love being lazy and they love eating good food, you'd have to force ozempic on them and even them some of them would find a way to force feed themselves

High protein foods aren't appetizing to most of the population.

>>76349922
no one ever ate raw meat, this is retarded
humans have been using fire to cook food since like 2 million BC

>>76349924
>>76349929
>doesn't understand nutrition science
There are no studies linking pork or lard consumption to death, because such a long term study would be impossibly difficult. All of these studies usually go something like:
>after 3 months of high pork eating, group A had higher cholesterol than group B
>which means group A is more likely to die!
or
>Survey of 200 people found that higher pork consumption was correlated with heart disease
>Ignores where that pork consumption comes from, they could be eating hot dogs and fries every day
If you can't tell, this is incredibly retarded. Ironically enough, the okinawans (you know, the people that everyone shill as living 100 years) have incredibly high pork intake.

Been on vacation for two weeks and haven't weighed myself in that time. I can't wait to get home, weigh myself, and realize I actually gained weight even though my average day has been
>nothing or <350 calories of oatmeal or Greek yogurt for breakfast
>walk 3-6 miles
>swim for 30 minutes
>have dinner with family be my big meal, whatever it is
>rinse and repeat
I even got a Planet Fitness membership in the second place I visited (it's surprisingly not that bad, just busy). I just want to go home and stick to my routine.

>>76349971
There are also no studies linking seed oils to death (quite the opposite in fact)
Yes nutrition science is complicated, but the general wealth of research suggests that seed oils are beneficial not harmful

>>76349967
>not the only side effect, literal cancer seems to be one and nobody should be taking that risk
This is mechastic speculation based on using giga doses in mice and it hasn't been observed in diabetics from liraglutide. If you're really worried about it, there are like a hundred things that cure cancer in mice.
>doesn't really become a habit when you start getting hungry again once the drug dose stops
Habit: A recurrent, often unconscious pattern of behavior that is acquired through frequent repetition
So when you eat less with GLP1, you develop a HABIT.
>giving every fatty the drug wont change shit
It will, they will lose all fat.
>most fatties do not want to change their lifestyle
They don't have to. GLP1 will make them eat less and thereby become thin.
>hey love being lazy and they love eating good food,
With GLP1 you literally can't eat as much food anymore.
>you'd have to force ozempic on them and even them some of them would find a way to force feed themselves
Then they would vomit and shit themselves.
>High protein foods aren't appetizing to most of the population.
But what about le good habits le healthy lifestyle?

>>76349971
>which means group A is more likely to die!
We have enough mechanistic, observational and randomized, placebo controlled trials proving a causal relationship between LDL-C/apoB and plaque buildup/heart disease. Even the recent ketard LMHR showed RAPID plaque progression from high cholesterol levels in the healthiest of people.

>>76349987
>Habit: A recurrent, often unconscious pattern of behavior that is acquired through frequent repetition
>So when you eat less with GLP1, you develop a HABIT.
This doesn't happen irl btw, people who stop GLP1a gain the weight back as they eat more again

>>76349996
No man, you told me habits are all that matters soooo.

>>76349987
>With GLP1 you literally can't eat as much food anymore.
AGAIN they have to eventually get off of it, you cant be on ozempic forever ffs

most of them go back to their old habits after getting off ozempic

I still think it's a net positive but it shouldnt be handed out like candy on halloween, only use it for extreme cases

>>76350007
>AGAIN they have to eventually get off of it, you cant be on ozempic forever ffs
You CAN be on ozempic forever for memes sake. Just like with most other medications that you stay on forever. Some people have been on liraglutide for decades already.
>most of them go back to their old habits after getting off ozempic
I mean that is what the studies say, but anons ITT told me that healthy habits are what really matters and by the definition of habit, ozempic is teaching fat people healthy habits.
>but it shouldnt be handed out like candy on halloween, only use it for extreme cases
It should be given to overweight/obese people for free. Hell, even give it to Americans with a bmi of 23.

>>76349991
meanwhile in reality every study ever recording LDL cholesterol from people that have had heart attacks has shown that the majority have "healthy" levels of LDL
>get fat
>cholesterol goes up
>ldl cholesterol goes up
>get a heart attack
>MUST BE THE CHOLESTEROL THAT CAUSED THE HEART ATTACK!
trust the science

>>76350018
>ozempic is teaching fat people healthy habits.
ozempic doesnt teach you shit, it is chemically altering your body, once the effects wear off you're back to square one

>>76350021
>meanwhile in reality every study ever recording LDL cholesterol from people that have had heart attacks has shown that the majority have "healthy" levels of LDL
Healthy levels have been revised down to 70mg / dL in recent years because that is the figure where most people have shown to start to regress plaque levels. Below 60mg / dL, there is no incidence of plaque buildup anymore in any population.
Obviously the overwhelming majority of people fall in the range of 70-130mg / dL of LDL cholesterol so the majority of heart attacks/strokes will occur in them.
>>MUST BE THE CHOLESTEROL THAT CAUSED THE HEART ATTACK!
We know that statins, PCSK9 inhibitors, certains diets (low saturated fat) and exercise cause plaque regression or stabilization. The recent LHMR study showed diabetic tier levels plaque progression despite no diabetes, low blood pressure, low body fat etc. The debate is done, the science is settled. If you hate it so much, write to Trump and tell him to stop using his 40mg rosuvastatin and 10mg ezetimibe and do something about da joo scientists making you angry.

>>76349984
>There are also no studies linking seed oils to death
that's fine
I don't need a study to tell me that industrially and chemically processed "seed oils" that don't exist in nature and that humans have had like... 100 years (at most) to adapt to are bad for you

>>76350025
>ozempic doesnt teach you shit,
Do I need to post the definition of habit again? Ozempic is helping people form it.
>once the effects wear off you're back to square one
No, as the knowledgeable posters of this thread will tell you, once a habit is formed, it doesn't need to be maintained because habits keep you thin forever and you don't need to do anything beyond that anymore. It is like brushing your teeth.

anyone else feel nostalgic listening to this?

I feel like I just burnt a piece of my past and didn't look back
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPOF5FgG3DU

>>76350042
If nature is so good, why did it make you retarded?

>>76350047
I accept your concession

Has no one here ever been on a diet? If you stop a glp1 you may eventually gain weight back, but how is that different from any other diet? Would you advocate against losing weight even if many people who lose weight eventually gain it back? Ofc not.

I lost around 100lbs pre glp1 and maybe 30lbs post glp1. I am not even on a full effective dose and it has already changed my relationship with food in a way that I know will last after I discontinue its use.

Honestly, I don't understand most of the comments I read online about these meds.
-theres no diarrhea unless youre eating garbage.
-theres no constipation if you know what a vegetable is.
-people taking 10 to 15mg doses sounds insane to me as my results even on 5mg have been dramatic (tirzepatide).

>>76350048
But I won though. Seed oils are good, animal fats make you retarded.

>>76347053
yes. and i wear all my clothes tight fitting now

>>76350044
there is no habit being formed when you use ozempic is the whole point, its completely different compared to just raw dogging weight loss, obv u could end up on square one either way but the 2nd option is more likely to work long term

>>76350050
No anon, good habits are all that matters. If you learn a good habit once, you don't even need to do anything anymore. Hunger pangs don't occur anymore with good habits, In fact, we should build habit forming camps to help fatties build good habits.

>>76350003
Forming a habit consciously through active changes in your thinking is not the same as a "habit" (not really) induced by hormonal changes in your body

>>76350051
okay enjoy your mazola corn oil and almond milk, i'll keep enjoying steaks and eggs

>>76350055
>>76350062
Definition of habit:
>A recurrent, often unconscious pattern of behavior that is acquired through frequent repetition
By this definition, ozempic helps you form a healthy food habit. What is so difficult to understand about this? Nowhere in this definition is there any mention of habit formation having to be "natural". Brushing your teeth is not a natural phenomenon either.

>>76350068
I hope you eat your steack with large quantities of butter.

>>76350075
I do, actually! It tastes better and makes me feel great.

>>76350071
Hoooly fucking retard
If you take steroids and you put on a shit ton of muscle, you don't get a "habit" of putting on extra muscle that persists after you stop the steroids; no, you put on less muscle after stopping

>>76349798
dude just drink a fibre supplement before every meal.

Diet tribalism is so cringe, you all know that being lean and active are the best contributors to health
Everything else is just nitpicking

>>76350083
But if you stop steroids and have build GOOD FITNESS HABITS you can not only maintain your steroid gains but even improve on them. Good healthy habits are all that matters. Habits man we should teach them in school. Make it a habbit to make habbits.

>>76350089
Vegans: hmm I should supplement with iron and vitamin B12 maybe
Ketards: DEM JEWISH SCIENTISTS ARE LYING ABOUT CHOLESTEROL DON'T YOU KNOW IT IS NATURAL? IF CHOLESTEROL WASN'T HEALTHY HOW COME JESUS CREATED DINOSAURS AND HUMANS WITH CHOLESTEROL??

>>76350096
>you can not only maintain your steroid gains but even improve on them
He has never done steroids

>>76350106
>But think of the animals
You let the mask slip. No point in continuing this conversation when that's what this has really been about this whole time.
Imagine if stupid unrepeatable studies from retarded vegan advocacy groups in the 70s still weren't fucking up nutrition science in the modern day with their misinformation.
Fuck vegans and fuck you seed oil shill

>>76350125
Do you even know about habits bro?

>>76350096
you absolutely cannot maintain your steroid gains if you hop off gear lmao

good healthy habits have to be developed with self control and consistent application, taking drugs doesnt make it a habit

>>76350140
I accept your capitulation. You have no idea what youre talking about

>>76349864
Lift. I had horrible gyno when I started. It somewhat persisted after losing weight. A year and a half of bulking and now a few months of cutting, its just straight up gone. Nearly 2 years of training between thess two photos, but totally worth it. Down about 85 from my heaviest now.

>>76350137
I eat meat myself because it tastes good but I don't pretend that something that tastes good can't be bad for me.

I'll be back tomorrow to post my weight until I get to 70 kg or less.
see you lard tubes.

>>76350146
>I eat meat myself because it tastes good but I don't pretend that something that tastes good can't be bad for me.
meat tastes like shit

>>76350141
Good healthy habits are an even more potent drug that steroids man. You can inject habits directly into your veins and become as big as a gorilla.
>>76350142
I won though.

>>76350143
i cant tell if the left pic is u having horrible gyno but mine is literally like b cup tits i dont think lifting is gonna fix that but i'm still gonna try

>meat is bad for you
>animal fat is bad for you
>milk is bad for you
>eggs are bad for you
>seed oils good
>chemically processed vegan meat is good for you
>eat the fucking bugs, chud

>>76350156
Bugs are complete protein sources.

>>76350096
You're such an illiterate retard that you missed the point of my analogy entirely.
It's probably true that with GLP1a abuse you can get to unhealthily low levels of body fat% but that's beside the point which is that stopping the drug causes your eating to bounce back to where it was before, and thus not forming any habits.
>>76350154
Retard.

meat is bad for you
animal fat is bad for you
milk is bad for you
eggs are bad for you
seed oils good
chemically processed vegan meat is good for you
eat the fucking bugs, chud

>>76350155
Heres the start.

Why do we have a new schizo every day?
Vegans
Keto
Fasting
Nobody even talks about weight loss anymore.

>>76350172
ok you give me hope
did u get gyno surgery?

>>76350086
like Metamucil? that works?

>>76350178
I'm just falseflagging :^)

>>76350164
>It's probably true that with GLP1a abuse you can get to unhealthily low levels of body fat% but that's beside the point which is that stopping the drug causes your eating to bounce back to where it was before, and thus not forming any habits.
Do I need to post the defintion of habit once again?
Ozempic: habit forming
Habits: last longer than the heat death of the universe and you literally don't have to use up any sort of willpower to maintain them.
In fact, are we even sure there is actual medication in GLP1 syringes and not concentrated habit juice?

>>76350171
This but unironically.

>>76350185
>Ozempic: habit forming
Proof? When people come off GLP1a they usually gain the weight back
If you're going to continue citing definitions as if they're 100% inarguably correct, then I accept your concession.

>>76350179
No and I thought Id need it, but once I started packing muscle on after finishing losing the 90 pounds, my chest started to improve alot.

>>76350197
>Proof?
Definition of habit:
>A recurrent, often unconscious pattern of behavior that is acquired through frequent repetition
Which is what ozempic does. You unconsciously eat less and do so frequently and recurrently.
>If you're going to continue citing definitions as if they're 100% inarguably correct, then I accept your victory
Thank you for accepting my victory.

salt doesn't increase blood pressure, btw
just throwing that in

>>76349958
>poison is good, healthy, safe and effective
post nose

>>76350204
interesting, i got the surgery but then stupidly never changed my eating habits and started gaining even more weight

i've always been told surgery is the only solution, did u just have chest fat instead of gyno then? or do you still feel the lump in ur chest area from the breast tissue?

>>76350217
in people with properly working kidneys

>>76350217
I blame the brain worm epidemic for this conspiracy retardation.

>>76350180
I've had pretty good success with it. It's worth trying for a week or two.Ozempic works by making you feel full. Fibre supplements like metamucil do similar things and are a lot cheaper.

>>76350217
holy shit this is another one that grinds my gears
first seed oils, then salt, mfs cant live without turning normal foods into health scares

>>76350217
does being fat increase blood pressure?

>>76350219
fat is lumpy, stop falling for the lump meme
you should never even think about surgery until you are lean

>>76350218
I am too poor to be jewish.

>>76350225
>Fibre supplements like metamucil do similar things and are a lot cheaper.
Only hungry skeletons who need to lose 50 grams of excess fat claim that.

>>76350228
And next the (((scientists))) will claim that normal,. tasty food makes you fat. Ridiculous!

>>76350219
I thought it was a ton of gyno, but apparently its mostly chest fat. That said I do think theres like an almond sized hard nodule in the center directly on the chest muscle, but at that point who cares?

>>76350232
Probably

>>76350246
yup wish i had just lost all the weight instead of jumping into surgery
now i'll have to get another one for all the loose skin eventually

>>76350219
Also youll either need to change your eating habits or get lean as a baseline, train hard and eat how you like until you gain some fat and muscle then cut for a few months every year or year and half. Also high protein intake. My goal is to put on enough muscle where my caloric output matches my appetite.

>>76350233
im gonna look cooked either way basically lmao

>>76350266
correct, but its much easier to fix your look with surgery when you're lean compared to when you're fat

>>76350262
ive never tried bulking yet, lost 81 lbs but look like some dude who just let go of himself and has a bunch of belly and chest fat now instead of being obese, look normal in clothes tho

>>76350266
Maybe maybe not, you wont know until you try

>>76350262
How do I build good eating habits?

>>76350276
Keto tortillas

>>76350274
Idk your individual situation as far as weight and height, but start lifting and track your protein and calories. Maybe recomp for about a year while you lose a little weight then bulk up?

>>76350277
>Keto tortillas

>>76350276
Depends, what do you have a surplus of? Time, money, or willpower?

>>76350279
73 kgs (161 lbs), 177cm (5'9) and little to no muscle prolyl since i havent lifted since the start of the year, idk how many calories to eat on a recomp honestly, do i just eat at maintenance or like a 500 cal deficit? my TDEE seems to be pretty low at 1850 calories

>>76350239
I snack on carrots several times per day which is effectively the same shit as drinking metamucil before meals and while yes it is helpful its nothing like ozempic. for sure

>>76350287
If youre willing to lift and do a bit of cardio, 1800 is doable. Hit 120-140g of protein a day. Im currently doing 1800-1950 on a cut and im a similar weight and height. Youd be surprised how much you can eat on that. Heres a typical day of eating for me.

Breakfast
Instant oatmeal 1 pack
120g fluffy greek yogurt

Snack
Lollipop

Lunch
Chickfila friend sandwich
Market salad with light balsamic vinegarette

Dinner
About a pound of turkey chili

Snack
120g fluffy yogurt
Lollipop
Fish oil capsules

If you're sub 28 BMI you are not welcome here you stupid thin bastard

>>76350293
>>76350305
Also today instead of the yogurt for breakfast i did 240g of protein ice cream with 2 shots of espresso poured over it

>>76350305
yup i've had a lot of high protein foods already on my weight loss journey so diet isnt really the issue, its just my lazy ass unable to lift consistently causing me to go from obese to skinny fat

>>76350281
>Depends, what do you have a surplus of? Time, money, or willpower?
mix of money and willpower.

>>76350308
homemade? if so ninja creami? cuz i would love that but damn is it expensive

>>76350232
Yeah. My cardiologist told me that each 1kg/2 lbs roughly correlates to one point of blood pressure.

As I've lost weight I've continued to shed blood pressure meds. Feels great.

My provider remarked at just how closely my weight loss and reduced meds matched the 1kg/1 point of bp rule

>>76350306
*jiggles your tummy and does a slap uppercut on it*

>>76350318
did he say anything about visceral fat vs subcutaneous fat affecting it?

I have only visceral really.

>>76350306
bmi doesnt always tell the full story
mine is 27 ish and i still have a straight up dad bod

>>76350317
Yes its made with a creami

>>76350314
Then find frozen and fast foods that fit your macros. I like chickfila a lot. The salad and dressing i posted is about 400 calories and 28g protein. The sandwich is 440 and 28g of protein. Frozen chicken wings in an air fryer with sugar free sauces as well as greek yogurt can fill out the rest of your day. Find a breakfast, lunch and dinner you can run everyday, then experiment with swapping out one meal of those a day with something new that fits your macros.

>>76350340
>Then find frozen and fast foods that fit your macros. I like chickfila a lot. The salad and dressing i posted is about 400 calories and 28g protein. The sandwich is 440 and 28g of protein. Frozen chicken wings in an air fryer with sugar free sauces as well as greek yogurt can fill out the rest of your day. Find a breakfast, lunch and dinner you can run everyday, then experiment with swapping out one meal of those a day with something new that fits your macros.
thank you anon.

i am the visceral fat anon but maybe some of these options could work.

>>76350352
I hope so. Soon enough you may find yourself cooking healthy, tasty, and filling meals!

>>76350306
18.5 bmi checking in

>>76350160
I'm going to fucking kill you

>>76350361
start lifting

You guys did do your steps today, right?

>>76350217
true

>>76350160
kys

>>76350352
>going to chick fila to lose weight
some of you niggas are doomed

>>76350371
whats that 10k steps? never been consistent with that shit, at most i've done like 23k steps in a day and then fell sick for a week

also who's got 2 hours in a day to just walk around?

>>76350369
i am, losing fat mostly atm
i think once i get to 18 bmi it'll start to tick up

>>76350276
Learn to cook. When I started making stuff that tasted way better than fast food at a fraction of the calories, it was like activating a cheat code.

>>76350389
you can create healthy meals out of certain food places stop being a retard and gatekeeping healthy eating

Tired and feet ache like a bitch working all day. Time to go run.
WAGMI

>>76350371
I got 7.8k steps / 6.5km in today and honestly, I'm satisfied.

>>76350396
nigga what fat's left? you can probably see your abs already

>>76350409
i'm very skinnyfat anon :(

>>76350398
>When I started making stuff that tasted way better than fast food at a fraction of the calories, it was like activating a cheat code.
Ok where can I lrn2cook?

I legitimately get bored of shit after a couple of weeks on it and stop eating healthy because of it.

>>76350389
Not every meal you eat is going to be perfectly prepped at home. You need to be able to find healthy options that you enjoy and fit your schedule. If you think a protein rich salad that has 400 calories and a 440 calorie sandwich will make you fat, youre just wrong.

>>76350416
even more of a reason to start lifting, you'll look way better if u lift instead of losing more weight and just becoming a stickman

>>76350400
>gatekeeping healthy eating

>>76350440
yes that's what i said i am lifting

>>76350424
Get an instantpot and ask chatgpt for easy recipes that you can make several days worth of. Then just put the pot into the fridge with a plate over it and portion it out when you eat. Make that one of your meals everyday for the next several days.

>>76350424
just look up high protein versions of your fav dishes or dishes with ur fav protein source and follow the instructions

>>76350443
> ask chatgpt for easy recipes that you can make several days worth of
IIRC AI is pretty bad at recipes? I remember seeing plenty of youtubers cover it

>>76350456
Ask it to link you recipes

>>76350442
yeah i meant bulk to grow more muscle while lifting instead of continuing to cut, you wont really put on anything at this stage

>>76350456
You need to tard wrangle it some, but it can give you a decent base.

>>76350456
It's okay if you need ideas and know how to cook, because you can just ignore its retard moments.
If you're a beginner and can't tell when it gives you bad advice (like overcooking chicken until leathery), then it's questionable.

>>76350468
i got my a1c checked recently and was borderline prediabetic so i really do not want to bulk

so what the fuck do i do when i lose enough weight to be seen as a human being by other people yet my internal operation system still considers me sub human and unworthy of love and affection

>>76350478
bmi of 18 and prediabetic? wtf is ur diet anon

>>76350479
Therapy, self introspection and finding new things you're good on to build confidence.

>>76350479
Grow into your new body. I still struggle with it

>>76350489
i think it was from being sedentary for the past 6 months so i'm trying to fix that and get my a1c back in range before i think of bulking or anything like that

>>76350479
>what do I do when i'm not a fat fuck anymore
you retards have the dumbest questions

>>76350507
Anon I've been sedentary my whole life and even at a BMI of 35.5 I wasn't even prediabetic (though I did have some insulin resistance).

>>76350507
build new healthy muscle cells in order to soak up the glucose and insulin

>>76350518
same my bmi reached 34.2 at its peak and never had any diabetes issues thankfully but a lot of it is genetic tbf

>>76350523
yes agreed but if i'm bulking i want to start with less fat on my body

NEXT
>>76350553
>>76350553
>>76350553
>>76350553

>>76350328
Just a direct comparison between overall weight and blood pressure.

>>76350511
This is actually a gigantic question
It's why people yoyo
They find out getting to goal weight didnt actually fix everything, freak the fuck out, no longer have the weight-go-down motivator, and return back to old habits

>>76348866
Skill issue.
I ate pizza yesterday and I will eat pizza today and still remain in a deficit.

>>76349845
Anger and hate are a temporary motivator try to enjoy getting stronger and more fit.
t.lost 70 pounds in a few months to spite fatty mother and gained it all back and more.

B-bros I pigged out yesterday and at 2500 kcal (about 200-300 more than maintain level), is it over for me? I want to pig out again today