I've never done it and never do because I'm a rational human being that respects nature and his body, not a mouse utopia metrosexual retard that wants big muscles to get girls or whatever other faggy reason but, if so many use steroids someone must be doing it right no?

So you get jacked but your tendons and nervous system don't catch up, your estrogen catches up and you go insane and troon out, it also ages you insanely and heavily strains your organs, and its linked to premature death. However some argue there are solutions to these problems such as estrogen blockers and others.

Is there a good ending for steroid use?

Yes /fit/, I don't have a bodybuilder body but I do HIIT, plyometrics and the big three. I feed on liver and raw milk and shower with ice water in below zero without drying off. I get mired by women of all ages just for being a badass nigga and can throw you into a concrete wall by your ears fuck you twinks. Fuck roidies. Fuck BJJ posers.

>>76358534 (OP)
Where do you get your info from, is there a discord I can join or something

I don't think I've ever met a person on roids who was "successful" in the traditional sense. It's a shortcut, hence most people who take it have never undergone delayed gratification. So far every person I've met on roids is working a minimum wage blue collar job, is in some white collar job that scams people, is living off unemployment, or living off inherited wealth.

>>76358534 (OP)
first post body
second there is genuinely no benefit to doing roids, it just ages you for basically zero benefit over your natural T production

>>76358534 (OP)

change "steroids" to "cigarette smoking/drinking/smoking weed/driving a fast car/combat sports" and you'll realize how retarded you sound

everything except steroids is based on moderation, right. Steroids are different because the football players who fucked your high school crush were on them. No middle ground with steroids. you do 200mg test = you die at 29. No exceptions.

>>76358534 (OP)
Another natty dyel telling everyone what steroids do and spends all his free time ranting and seething about them.
Seek mental help.

>>76358534 (OP)
My gf said my balls were too large, so I had to take steroids to shrink them. Simple as

>>76358555
What sort of life to do live where you know dozens of people who all tell you that they roid?
You dont know any roiders faggot. You might see a few at the gym but you have no idea what they do for a living because you are a loser who doesnt talk to people and stare at your phone in between sets hoping nobody notices you.

you guys are so mad lmao

i want roids to have more libido

>>76358534 (OP)
I roid to fuck ur gym crush with 0 effort, ill also achieve a physique it will probably take you a lifetime in just a year blasting, cope and seethe more nattard

>>76359931
Nattybros, our response?

>>76360002
>y-y-your balls are s-s-small and girls think roiders are the ick

>>76360014
i just watched conor murphy porn video with a tranny and he has massive balls still while blasting for years, that shit is a meme

>>76360002
uh.

well, oh yeah huh? well guess what, juicehead. um. can i watch?

>>76359931
you’ll achieve the physique in 1 year but you’ll have aged 15 years in the process and have your hairline go MGTOW. Have fun being an aged, balding roidtranny and realizing that women dgaf about physique and all they care about is face, height & hair, 2 of which you gave up to blast roids

>>76360031
im sorry anon but i dont have balding genetics, my head is full of hair while blasting, my dad has all his hair at 60
unless ur doing really harsh compounds in such high dosage you wont age

>>76359931
oh yeah? well at least i never had to inject another man's testosterone into my balls for MY body, unlike you. is that even your own sperm you are blasting into my gym crush bro or is that from a vial too brah. you wanna go??? oh gosh dont bearhug me bro

>>76360002
Anyone that isn’t a neurodivergent autist like this faggot >>76359931 realizes that roids have zero ROI, especially when it comes to attracting women.
When I am gymcelling, I get constant IOIs from women, while roidtrannies and gymcels get none, despite the fact that I am far smaller than a typical roidtranny, because women care about the fact that I am 6’2” with an attractive face, and don’t give a fuck about musculature. Beyond a certain point muscles actively damage your attractiveness to women.

>>76360040
Doesn’t matter because roids still age you and you destroy your body for literally zero benefit.

>>76360052
and before some coping roidtranny calls me a lanklet this is my forearm at 6’2” with very long limbs. stop falling victim to roidtranny propaganda, focus on getting lean & stay natty because beyond the natty limit muscles destroy your looks

>>76359931

they make steroids from the balls of other men / mammals dude. those arent your muscles, that isnt your sperm, and that isnt your kid because you are injecting someone else's testosterone into your body, altering your genetic code at the core level. thats right

>>76360063
yeah OK fake natty. nice roid veins bro

>>76360052
>>76360063
Nigga nobody cares about ur gay larp about girls miring you at the gym, that shit means nothing if you get 0 pussy out of it, girls look at everyone at the gym, even fat retarded incels and DYELs, that doesn`t mean they are into you, they are probably judging how much of a weak lanky DYEL nigger you are, lmao.

I`m 6`3 roided up and girls literally approach me now, I don`t have to do anything, just exist and have big veiny muscles, I can fuck any girl I want and my insta has atleast 10-15 hoes that I could message anytime of the week to be my fuck buddy for the weekend.

I`m sure being a natty has done a lot for you, lol.

>>76360069
oh yeah? well guess what, BRO. you are injecting another man's balljuice into your body. is it even your body anymore?

>>76360068
I am 100% natural I just have naturally veiny forearms with long insertions. i would never age my skin & risk my hairline by injecting hormones like roidtrannies

>>76360069
if you weren’t a neurodivergent autist you’d easily comprehend that it doesn’t matter whether u think that i “larp” or not, because what I say is the factual reality: women would choose a prime chico lachowski or drew starkey over a fucking roidtranny. women don’t care about muscles and injecting hormones into your ass, completely annihilating your looks in the process, is the most retarded thing that you can possibly do. i’m not here to flex getting pussy faggot, i’m trying to save teenagers stumbling upon this thread from falling victim to your roidtranny propaganda

>>76360130
bro chico didnt roid and lost his hair anyway, bad citation there you fake natty

>>76360130
>the best a nattard can do is take pic of his forearm and use supermodels as an example of why you shouldn't roid
Grim

>>76360141
you seem unable to comprehend even basic concepts and unable to have even the most simple deductive reasoning. Why does it matter if they are supermodels? I used them as an example because they are widely known and people call easily look them up, they are no different to the average highly attractive guy in your hometown enjoying women’s attention.

Would these supermodels improve or completely annihilating their looks by becoming roidtrannies? Why is it that every gymcel fitness influencers’ comments are filled with dudes and women are nowhere to be found?

enjoy looking 50 at 30 faggot

>>76360135
i said prime chico. it doesn’t matter if he started thinning at 35

>>76360179
lets be honest bro - guy on the right doesnt have comments full of women but its not because he roids

>>76360179
>uses 2 natties as the example
Lmfao you're braindead, no wonder you get 0 pussy with that DYEL body of urs

>>76360179
AlphaDestiny is natty and there's a tinder experiment with his picks on tinder matching with pretty cute girls on looks max forum, ur example is retarded

>>76360186
true because it’s all about face and height but the guy on the left wouldn’t have women’s comments either if he roided. past a certain point musculature actively diminishes your attractiveness. that is why roiding is the most retarded thing that you can do as a man: you easily surpass this point and at the same time age your skin, lose your hairline and damage your appearance in so many other ways (and of course hurt your health)

>>76360189
we natties may be DYEL, but at least its our body and not some dead dude's ball serum giving me muscles

>>76358534 (OP)
Just lift right and do bulks when your joints are fresh a the very least since you can get more out of your sessions and end up gain say 10lbs in a mo due to waterweight. Maybe try before considering steroids or use brain peds.

>>76360191
fake and gay. a man can never have too much muscle and mass. and i say this as a natty

bros we have been compromised by DYELs

>>76360196
>i got too fat on my bulk
You already were that fat if not for carb/water/salt retention thats why liquor makes you cut in the morning

>>76360189
roidtranny cope. never said that musculature can only damage your looks if you are a roidtranny. a 5’2” guy like alphadestiny can easily surpass the point where muscles harm your looks. once again u prove that you have albanian levels lQ

>>76360190
haven’t seen this but it doesn’t disprove the fact that his appearance only attracts dudes to his social media

>>76360190
that dude aint natty come on

>>76360199
u still a victim to 2010s powershitter propaganda. it’s 2025 bro wake up

>>76360199
You just cant get huge from low iq lifting, you stall on weight if your shits unproductive. I mean theres an even higher iq game to br played in roided lifting since some people literally cant rep 4pl8 bench roided and thats just insanity.

alright quit the bullshit. first of all, a man can NEVER have too much muscle and mass.

second and lastly - what we are trying to say is getting swole wont fully make up for lack of height or facial attractiveness

>>76360191
>guy on the left wouldn’t have women’s comments either if he roided
Biggest cope, he would get even more pussy if he had another 30lbs of muscle on his frame

>>76360207
fake and gay. you wont cheet me i WILL gain MASS

>>76360210
yeah ive been stalling, so what. i just go back to the gym and try again. and again. and again.

#natty

>>76360210
Chasing strength and arbitrary numbers as a natty is a waste of time, you'll never be big and lean like roiders

>>76360220
its never a waste of time. #nattypride #roidpassing

>>76360218
Whats your qualm im drinking making food and bored, what is your desire goyim?

>>76360227
>im drinking
NGMI

>>76360220
Roiders have to do more high rep shit, i can just spam any rep shit and the worst i get is fatigue not wasting pills and semen in a needle

>>76360229
Drinking gets me prs and more good sets in a session, mps happens for like 2 days mostly ime, 3-5 rest day gains only come from 5-10days of hard lifting ime.

>>76358534 (OP)
Ill get 5pl8 1rm bench in my life i dont need steroids, but i also got very good at training early.

>>76360069
Imagine showing your supposed girl's face but being too much of a pussy to show yours lmao. Is that stuff even working?

>>76358534 (OP)
Artificial organs are coming and I bet roids won't take enough years off my life so that I won't see them

>>76360247
Nobody cares about ur 5pl8 bench fat fuck, I'm benching 2pl8 and slaying more than you while blasting

>>76358534 (OP)
The only reason to take them are if you can use it to make a lot of money like an actor or athlete.

>>76359907
Roid rage

>>76360259
I can maybe get 3pl8s 1rm if i rested a week or 2 natural, i want 5pl8s for reps in 3 years. I usually do reps with 225 5-10 as heavy whike hyoertrophy, 245-265 not in a while im doing mp/btb and shit a lot more and just refuse to rest for over a week or actually 1rm.

>>76360281
>actual bet money 1rm
335 like 1mo rest im lifting like 4x/wk med intensity

>>76360271
It takes years of roiding before you even get the chance to try out for pro-athlete or a muscled up actor, retard.
Do you think NFL players only start roiding when they get drafted? Do you think Arnold started roiding when he got his first movie role?
You people are so clueless its actually sad.

>>76360281
>>76360286
Post body

>>76360296
Youd give me a 7-8/10 but in like 2 years ill just be nasty.

>>76360297
I bench/mp like 235/145x10 for working sets? But i acutappy lift the weight.

>>76358534 (OP)
>Is there a point to steroids?
for normal healthy men not really, it's just something that insecure or retarded people think they need, like cosmetic surgeries.
Nobody who isn't a spiritual zombie would ever do stuff like blasting roids or getting a tit job

>>76358534 (OP)
Yeah their intended medical purpose. To transition from female to male

>>76360048
I think it's a yams testosterone. I don't know if it's my cum, but it's certainly my dick getting sucked.
Stay small and mad

>>76360064
>they make steroids from the balls of other men / mammals dude
kek nigga at least check if the bullshit you're imagining up is true before posting it

>>76360259


People keep ignoring this but it's truth. Being fat and strong is pointless.

>>76360290

Yup most football players start roiding in high school

>>76360002
If he thinks he's winning it's his problem

>>76358555
Rich Piana was honest about this. For him and others, bodybuilding was all they had. It makes sense to use roids in that case because it's your only choice in life

>>76359931
>>76360069
using pics from some dudes tik tok
post your body loser

>>76360213
the easiest way to get more pussy is having a big dick, you get direct access to her friends and their friends

>>76360135
Chico recovered his hair, hes like a thick nw1.5 now

>>76358555
Many such cases.

>>76362291
A great physique is the one thing you can't buy/steal/be gifted. That's why it's the ultimate marker for status. Pulling up in a mclaren means nothing if your dad gave it to you. you can't lie steal and cheat your way to a great body you have to work for it.
>muh steroids
you have a grade 4 level of understanding biology

>>76362308
>Pulling up in a mclaren means nothing if your dad gave it to you.
Pulling up in a mclaren means a lot if you earned it yourself.

>>76358534 (OP)
Your posts assumes someone is blasting everything under the sun without doing bloodwork, not taking an ai, eating like shit and not doing cardio. Nobody just blasting some test is going to end up like that unless they're retarded.

>>76362312
sure but you can't tell that from just observation. owning a mclaren could mean you're a trust fund kid or a business savant, no way to really know without checking. having a strong, fit, physique can only be had through hard work and dicipline.

>>76362291
This faggot would trade his fancy car for big muscle in an instant if he could.

>>76360290
>putting words in my mouth
No, you are the tard

>>76362381
Explain how you can make money from roiding with roiding for years to even get the chance.
Whether its sports, modeling etc

>>76360057
Retard. Jealous retard in fact.

>>76359931
>>76360069
this is full peacock mode and it no doubt works if you look good naturally and go all the way by roids and tats to maxxx your edgy look, however it won't work for everyone and people quickly recognize you're an insecure chump if they interact with you for more than a brief moment
still, it's probably an effective strategy for fucking sluts but a sane dude wouldn't go this way

>>76362405
>Explain how you can make money from roiding with roiding for years to even get the chance.
Type in English

>>76362466
*without
you know what I meant faggot. Stop acting like a simple typo is too much for you to figure it out

>>76362471
Are you implying I said it was an instant effect? Are you implying athletes and actors don't roid up? You literally invented an argument to be mad about you retarded schizo.

>>76362486
ok, you're too stupid to understand the question.
Very typical of natty dyels who tell everyone all about how steroids work

>>76362308
>A great physique is the one thing you can't buy/steal/be gifted
yes you can buy, the gym and muscles are pay2win as fuck if you have enough money for the best roids in the words and big dosages with perfect coaching/training/diet you WILL get big even if you have dogshit genetics

>>76358534 (OP)
naturalist fallacy

>>76360069
this

Cuz natty lifting is a waste of time and just pointless.

I'm a dyel. I admit it. Ive been lifting 6 days a week tracking calories for just about a year now and you can barely tell i lift. My bench is up to 200x3 starting from 90 pounds, squat is up to 225x5 and I can do about 15 pull ups at 175 bodyweight.

People look at me and just assume I don't push myself or that I'm doing something wrong when in fact they only say that because they're all delusional due to fake Natty's and roosters giving unrealistic expectations of what's possible in a certain amount of time.

I'm just rambling I guess.... But I'll probably start a cycle soon. I don't see the point in working out 2 hours a day 6 days a week doing every set to failure only to look like I don't lift at all compared to the guy on roids working out 3 days a week for 6 months.

Tldr: track macros, log every workout, increase weight base on meeting rep goals, get miniscule results when natty.

>>76362700
For one year, you genuinely look fantastic. social media and this place will not give you healthy expectations and self-perception.

>>76362707
he looks fine but he won't be getting much bigger from here naturally

>>76362700
Ye natty lifting is the biggest scam, you've probably already achieved 90% out of ur natty limit in that one year, from now on it gets harder to even put 2lbs of muscle in a year, so you'd have to lift for at least another 8-9 years to even look close to a roider that did it in 6 months.

>>76362707
He looks like he never touched a single weight in his life, if your standards are that low you're retarded

>>76359931
You dont grow naturally i guess you can use hgh before bones get too dense but roiders dont get as wide since their bines harden and the aesthetic is distinct.

>>76358534 (OP)
Op, i guarantee that you are just a fat retard, post body.

>>76358534 (OP)
Why is it always fat retards talking obsessively about steroids, nobody cares if you take them or not.

"people" that act holier than thou for saying they won't take steroids are the same kind of retards that call you a pedo for watching anime or a nazi for playing the wizard game, just a bunch of obsessed failures that don't do anything with their lives wanting easy praise/internet points for acting "morally correct".

>>76362700
Try high freq low rep shi way too often and also maybe just do heavy reps so like 4-8 for a session by itself super hard. You need more bodybuilding esque work and only skimp on it if shoulders are fucked or fatigue is high. To save joints just do more mid rep shit that you pre fatigue to still train like its heavy and get he same muscles while not actually straining shoulders.

Like honestly straining shoulders is he main reason i dont lift the same lift ecery other day and prioritizing whatever will get my lifts heavier.

>>76362753
>pedo for watching anime
well yeah.
at the very least they're all loser incels

>>76362755
Maybe... I've been thinking of doing that anyways. For the most part I generally do about 7-8 sets of 3-5 pyramidjng down for compounds, then 2-3 sets of 8-15 for accessories.

>>76362700
I hate people like you so much thinking you are doing everything perfectly when you clearly aren't, i guarantee that you don't train hard enough, you don't eat enough and you don't sleep enough.
Obviously a steroid cycle gives better results in a few months than a couple of years but saying natty lifting is a waste of time is defeatist tranny mindset to justify not trying hard enough.

>>76362793
He's not wrong, natty lifting is 98% genetics while 1% being training and 1% diet, there's men who have never touched a single weight in their lives that look better than him, your own personal genetic based progress doesn't mean shit to a diff person.
Lifting has been solved a decade ago, you're not training harder than us, anon.

>>76362793
Obviously no one is perfect but Im trying my best and for the most part am dialed in.

I've gained 25 pounds in 11 months while eating 150g a day protein minimum. I'm eating enough to grow while not gaining more fat than muscle. I go to sleep before 11 every night and wake up at 9am and have all of my workout history on boostcamp and diet on my fitness pal.

Ive seen great results in the mirror from my starting point. My main takeaway is that the amount of dedication and effort it takes to look great as a natty lifter is ridiculous compared to what people doing a few injections can accomplish in 80% of the time.

B4 picture here

>>76360031
>>76360057
enlighten me the wise natty, what is the constant rate at which the biological aging of your body will accelerate at regardless of the compounds and doses used?
if I inject THE STEROID for 1 year, how many years should I expect to age?

>>76362700
>>76362840
>>76362793
>muh training
Kek. This is my irl friend, he's been training for a year and a half on gear Test+NPP, we are from a very poor country (Brazil) and he barely can afford a good diet so he just eats whatever the fucks he can and anything his mom makes.

Our training is mostly isolation with a compound exercise, we literally train the same way but he's 10x bigger than me, a natty who's been training for 3 years, probably gonna hop on gear end of this year.

>>76362889
Based and truthpilled. Your friend looks great.

>>76362889
>My friend
Ok.