Thread 76462406

>Who is /fat/ for?
For dieting ducks working towards a longer life and a better physique through meaningful hard-work, strategy, and dedication. This is not QTDDTOT, stick to questions on fat loss. Post height and weight when asking for advice.
Join our Fatty Contest: https://www.fattycontest.com/

>What do I do first?
1. Read https://physiqonomics.com/fat-loss/
2. Calculate your Body Fat Percentage: https://fitness.bizcalcs.com/Calculator.asp?Calc=Body-Fat-Navy
3. Calculate your TDEE: https://www.sailrabbit.com/bmr/
Remember to use bodyfat% and use Katch-McArdle Formula with sedentary settings or your TDEE will be too high.
4. Plan your weight loss: https://www.losertown.org/eats/cal.php
5. Track your nutrition with MyFitnessPal (better for packaged food), Cronometer (better for generic food/macros), LoseIt (great for both), or Waistline (FOSS).

>Now what?
Count calories, all of them.
Eat about 500-1000 less calories than your TDEE.
Buy scales, be accurate.
Learn to cook. Try to stick to lean protein and green vegetables.
Eat a lot of protein. 0.72g per pound of goal lean body mass.
Doing cardio, even just walking, will improve your health. There is no such thing as a healthy fat heart, but you can offset the risks.
Lifting weights will keep and gain muscle mass and lose fat much quicker. Not lifting results in the body eating away muscle AND fat.
Drink more water.
Read the /fit/ sticky: https://liamrosen.com/fitness.html

>DON'T
Eat refined sugars, they're terrible for you regardless of calories.
Eat processed foods.
Drink your calories (alcohol, soda, Starbucks).
Freak out over a weight loss stall. Plateaus can last up to three weeks.
"Reward" yourself. Cheat days cheat only yourself.

>Other resources:
Loose skin, gynecomastia & stretch marks: https://weight-loss-side-effects.netlify.app/
Reddit Wiki: https://www.reddit.com/r/loseit/wiki/faq

Previous thread: >>76457519

Thats right nun-fag
Rush to make the thread as soon as it hits bump limit because otherwise I'll make a non-nun thread

>>76462379
Fact

>>76462475
that app seem completely accurate

Don't sweat it anon, TDEE is a lie anyways. If you are losing weight and the app is consistently inconsistent it doesn't matter at all. A 300 calorie deficit (or whatever number) is a 300 calorie deficit if your TDEE is 1800 calories or 2400 calories.

>85% of the time in zone 1 and 15% in zone 2 when lifting
why

>>76462513
because you focus on upper body too much

i must lift so i can lose fat

>>76462530
i'm doing compounds mostly, upper and lower about equally

>weakness
>fatigue
>lifts regressing
>sweat occasionally smelling like a chemical factory fire from keto AIDS
>still struggling to meet protein intake
Yeah no, this isn't working.
I am altering the target calorie intake.
Pray I do not alter it further.

dis nigga doin keto ngmi

>>76462652
I DON'T WANT IT AAAAH
I just don't have room for carbs in my diet

>>76462624
>still struggling to meet protein intake
How? Just eat 500g of chicken breast a day. Its so easy.

almost down to 99kg.....

>>76462660
Yes you do, I'm eating a 1100-1200 cal diet and do a big oatmeal in the morning with a banana that's already 60-70g carbs then the rest of my meals are chicken with veggies only, still 100g+ protein

>it's another repeat of the plateau week episode

Insane how you can not eat for almost an entire week and the scale will not fucking move AT ALL

How long can I safely maintain a 500~700 cal per day diet?
Currently on the 4th week, loosing around 1.25 kg per week.
I'm mostly eating eggs, lean poultry and white fish, reaching around 100g or proteins per day.

Any signs I should look out for telling me it's time to stop?

>>76462530
I reach zone 4 on bench press and barbell row pretty consistently.

>>76462715
If your hair starts falling it's probably time to stop

>>76462715
I did -1000kcal for a year. You'll be fine.

>>76462715
you're probably sedentary so you dont have problems doing such a low calorie diet
the usual sign is when you feel like absolute dogshit and cravings are making you go insane

personally I'd just fast at that point but whatever is easier for you

>going through junk mail
>see dunkin donuts coupon book.
>theyre pretty fucking good coupons

Fuck. Fuck.

>>76462789
be strong friend. rise above the slop

Today's tally up

1873 kcal 210 protein

holy fuck we're so on the ball today

>>76462789
Ballsy to post your address like that.

>>76462799
Protein sources? Lots of semen?

>>76462802
Don't swat me friend

>>76462811
Hope no one knows how to use the archives
>They do

>>76462423
Dude, settle down. As long as we have a thread who cares if it's got nuns in it or not?

>>76462804
>Protein sources? Lots of semen?
>an average of 252 mg per ejaculation
>5-25 calories
Yeah nah...

>>76462670
>oatmeal
nta but why the fuck didn't think of that? I'll swap my morning quark to oatmeal tomorrow.

>>76462834
Make overnight oats with quark (maybe mix with low-fat yogurt so it's not so thick) and some fruits or berries. It's my new favourite breakfast.

>>76462816
Why do we have bots that shill post but no one has made a bot that makes new threads when bump limit is reached? Seems like it woulf actually be a QOL improvement

>>76462816
Hey I don't mind, but nun-fag had a melty the other day and made a second /fat/ thread because the one everyone was using didn't have any nuns in it

Time for my daily creatine complaint session.

Day 5. Up 3.2lbs from my low, which is prob closer to 4-4.5lbs given my deficit. Yesterday's increase was only .2lbs so im thinking that I am approaching the end.

That being said, my Sunday workout was the first one where I started feeling an actual improvement. I was able to squeeze out a bit more workload than I typically would.

Others have told me it takes roughly 7 to adjust, so I should be almost done.

>Green beans
>In the oven until crispy
>Salt and vinegar on

this shit is salt and vinegar chips if you squint your eyes

>>76462867
Damm how long have you been on diet?

>>76462622
then your compounds are focusing solely on the weak muscle as part of the set. This is a workout design issue.

>>76462622
Then you are either very healthy or very fat. I just got my rows out of the zone 4 and I am pretty happy about it. No more fucking fatigue killing my gains. Calculated 1RM is 105.6 lbs for one arm row. Looking forward to next workout to beat that.

>just finished dinner a couple hours ago
>already hungry again
>next meal is in 12 hours
ruh roh

>>76462873
>compounds are focusing solely on the weak muscle as part of the set. This is a workout design issue.
Can you elaborate? I do squats, RDL, push-ups, dumbbell rows, OHP, and then isolations.
I am very fat and not very strong though.

>>76462870
5 days but whos counting

>>76462604
did my lifts today, wagmi

>>76462892
Dont overcomplicate things. Imo try your hardest and focus on building workout habits before you get paralysis by analysis.

>>76462892
idk your body. So I can't help much. Here is the theory for a made up person. Made up person does only things front to back and doesn't bench and reach at angles. Probably an office worker.

Back Squat Muscles worked:
Gluteal muscles
Quadriceps
Hamstrings
Adductors
Calves
Spinal Erectors
Abdominals
Trapezius

His adductors are dogshit. When he tried to do a squat then the balance issue make him work harder despite it not being the target for the exercise. He isn't going to get much for VO2 if the smallest muscle of the group is the one screaming and his quad, ham and ass are just hanging out.

Solutions:
Do isolations
check in on yourself if you can do that (a lot of people can't)
use alternate machines to see if your numbers change, ie smith machine squat for the office worker I described.

>>76462907
fuck, that guilt, I gotta go, can't have another workout time crunched. If the fucking gym wasn't so fucking busy maybe I could get my workout under 2 hours, but this walking around swapping order is ruining my fucking efficiency. I had to pull the plug earlier yesterday because I had to make it across town. Sorry wrist curls, I promise I will make it up to you.

>>76462926
this is me

>>76462920
this is also good advice. If you don't go, you don't win.

>>76462834
Total Macros:
Calories: ~419 kcal
Protein: ~15.5g
Carbs: ~82g
Fat: ~5.1g
Fiber: ~13g

I do this everyday before going to the gym, all the rest of my calories are spent on meat, mostly chicken breast

>>76462926
Go get your sets in anon! I promise it won't be that bad once it's over

>>76462861
That pic is wholesome af.

>4 days under maintenance, 5 counting today
Finally getting the hang of eating less caloric foods.
Had 24 fish sticks and was only 800 calories.

>>76462920
That's what I'm doing.
>>76462926
It feels like my quads are doing most of the work when I squat, idk about the rest.
I just work out at home and I've read that the compounds I listed should be giving the most bang for the buck for someone in my position. Doing more isolations would be better probably, but I barely get enough time to squeeze in a "full-body" workout 3 times a week.

>>76462995
>That's what I'm doing
I dont doubt it. Keep it up. As far as best bang for your buck, compound lifts plus barbell curls are a great routine.

do we care about sugar and insulin resistances? its pure calories that matters

meaning, i have an ice cream in the fridge and room in my budget if you know what im saying

>>76463127
>meaning, i have an ice cream in the fridge and room in my budget if you know what im saying
you are the hardest nigga in the thread and i like the way you think

>>76463127
>do we care about sugar and insulin resistances?
You should. IR fucks you up more than you would think.

>>76463127
fat causes insulin resistance to begin with but calories matter above all else unless you have a specific health issue

>>76463135
>IR fucks you up more than you would think.
how so?

>>76463144
Screws with your hypothalamic-pituitary axis and also leads to diabetes.

>>76463144
insulin resistance is real bad for you, i was just trying to get permission to eat an ice cream for random stangers

>>76463168
from *

>>76463156
>Screws with your hypothalamic-pituitary axis
could you speak more on this?

>>76463168
I want you and everyone to make it, you won't be getting permission to eat the slop from me. Be strong and throw that shit out.

>>76463156
>>76463168
>hypothalamic-pituitary axis
never heard of it tell me more

>>76463184
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0d5lJzMXnM

just listen to fung he can explain it better than any of us it anyways

brehs i lost so much weight i look good in clothes now women openly thirst for me wtf do i do now i'm autistic

>>76463209
You gotta ride a few ponies before you can run with the bulls.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0WxyKGD7sU&t=69s

only fat bitches match with me, i guess it serves me right doesnt it

>>76462861
Didn't notice that, but I did see some sad cunt calling everyone a "schizo" for liking the nunless thread. I assumed it was just some autist whose world broke down when one small thing was suddenly different.

>>76463209
I look forward to having clothes. Functionally I have one pair of pants and a bunch of sweat pants because that's all that fits me, but really i have a bunch more pairs of pants that are too small and look ridiculous on me

Even my nice winter coat doesnt zip up any more, and I bought that coat when I was already overweight. That was one of the big signs to me that I must be way bigger than I used to be

>tell my fatass friend i'm almost out of the 3 digit zone
>fatass tells me to stop omading
misery loves company eh, is he a fake nigga?

>>76463311
Nta but after dropping the weight I bought a bunch of new clothes and some silver chains and feel like a new man. Its such a nice feeling.

>>76463327
>silver chains
is this the 2000s

>>76463135
>>76463127
isn't IR mostly caused by eating too much? sure, sugar increases the risk, but the major cause of IR is obesity. i don't think it's a very significant risk if you are already eating at a deficit.

>>76463327
dude wearing silver chains in the big '25

>on a 1000 calorie deficit, eating only around 1100 calories a day
>get hungry at night
>find some noodles in my pantry that is only 111kcal per 100g
>have 2 packs, total 130g
>only 144kcal
>pepehappy
>order a bunch more packs

>turns out it's actually 200kcal per pack
>111kcal per 100g is cooked
fml, I've been destroying my deficit, no wonder I didn't notice any weight loss over the past few days

also, how do I cope with hunger *only* being a problem at night, during the day I feel satiated, i'm having plenty of protein and have lunch at noon and dinner at 6pm

>>76463345
>the major cause of IR is obesity
That, and carbs. Especially simple carbs.
No, I'm not ketoschizo, carbs are not the devil. But in case of IR and diabetes, they do actually matter and it helps to limit them.

>>76462406 (OP)
it's been a month of fasting and treadmill and my weight is still fluctuating between up and down the same 10 pound range, and it's disheartening. I know it's only been a month but god damn I at least want to know if I'm doing shit right, to see my efforts reflected in reward. this is why diets fail you know, because people don't see the change they expect and then just give up because "oh it's not working" so how do you stave off this mindset?

>>76463347
you cheated yourself, the trick is to not stay awake late, i take Quetiapine and risperidone (schizo meds) and they make me hungry af but i usually fall asleep b4 binging.
>omad around 100-1200 kcals

>>76462852
>no one has made a bot that makes new threads when bump limit is reached?
we do have a bot like that, it posts threads with a random nun comic as the OP

>>76462861
the problem with those threada was that they didn't have a subject field and therefore it wasn't clear if the FattyContest would pick them up

>>76463357
>one month
give it time

>>76463347
there's always going to be a part of the day where you're hungry

got one of them smartwatches. I think the damn thing is broken, it doesn't work, it says I done half a mile between the kitchen and my bedroom. goddamn cheap chink tech.

>>76463346
>>76463339
Theyre just thin ones. Nothing too flashy and they suit me decently.

>>76463345
im not an exppert but i think you can be skinny fat and still have IR.

in theory if you keep spiking your insulin (sugars / carbs) but your cells are already filled with glycogen, you need more and more insulin to remove sugar from the bloodcells and store it into the cells and liver, thus you get resistant.

on the flip side, if you deplete your glycogen stores in all your muscles, then your body starts pulling it from the liver, when it runs out of glycogen it starts converting the fat in the liver to ATP which cleanses you from fatty liver disease.

i actually had no idea but sugar / glycogen... it's actually pretty fucking toxic in your blood stream, which is not only why your body rushes to get it into cells for energy, but because it actively damages shit if it stays in the blood stream (which is why diabetics lose limbs, their eyes and shit, glycogen is literally damaging cells)

imagine that, sugar/glycogen, absolutely necessary for regular human function; for energy, but it's also toxic to our cells and organs if it stays around in the blood, kinda wild to think about

>>76463387
some of these "glycogens" should have been "glucose" instead my bad

chicken with lemon peppa.....

God I'm really frustrated with myself

I spent my whole life completely directionless. As I kid all I cared about or thought about was playing video games and hanging out with friends and stuff, in high school I graduated to being a stoner and a drunk and smoking weed every day and going to parties and still had no idea what I wanted to do with my life, I actively avoided thinking of it

Then as you can imagine adulthood hit me like a tonne of bricks, and I refused to grow up, just kept on doing what I was doing until eventually my lifestyle destroyed my health and everything went down the drain and I retreated even further from life and went onto an aimless downward spiral just binge eating and drinking and barely working

Now im slowly getting my health back on track and losing the tremendous amount of weight I put on, and just last night I was actually thinking about my future seriously, and just like that I already came up with an idea of what kind of career I would like, FOR THE FORST TIME IN MY LIFE, but at the same time it all feels like it's too late

I'm 31 God damn years old I have to spend a year or more just losing weight , then I would have to go back and get my highschool diploma, them o would have to somehow go to post secondary school for years, then hope to God I can get a job in my field

All I can think is where was this years ago. Why did I have to spend a decade "finding myself" and hitting rock bottom before I understood what kind of person I wanted to be


It's all very frustrating

>>76463405
I am loathing the fact that I gave away a lot of my 20s to video games. I got a degree and studied fairly hard so on that front I'm fine. I do feel slight FOMO about never traveling or partying more. But I guess all people deal with some kind of FOMO.

>>76463358
>risperidone
All the respect managing to lose any weight while on that stuff. That's hard mode.

>>76463405
you can always rebuild your life, its never late. forget about the past and its mistakes and live in the present, with all its possibilities.

>>76461048
Thanks. I expect a good number tomorrow morning =]

>>76463417
28lbs thus far, took some months tho, but i aint in a hurry.

>>76463401
love it. throwin it on some hot airfried breast is tasty

My weekend of mistakes has only left me a little over a pound above where I was

It's nice to know it's not the end of the world and I can get back in the saddle and be back on track in no time

On your cheat days, you cheat yourself out of your diet progress.

On my cheat days, I cheat on my wife.

We are not the same.

>>76463508
i mastrubated instead of eating more

My last month on a 1000+ deficit before returning to maintenance full time. I'll likely cut next year, but the remainder of this year will be recomping.

>>76463601
how the fuck do you not have headaches or feel lightheaded throughout the day?

Anytime I do a 500 deficit consistently or do a deficit larger than that on any day, I get lightheaded and headaches.

>>76463606
Unironically lost the ability to get erections for a bit, but no other side effects.

Just did maintenance for 4 days and erections returned, so just gonna go nuclear and get to 155 pounds(5'10) and recomp.

>>76462956
it was terrible and I regret going. Stupid logical brain is working my schedule so I hit my split and avoiding a rest day tomorrow. This all shit and I hate everything.

I am going drown my tears in some greek yogurt.

>>76463387
muscles are glycogen stores. Being skinny fat just pounds the little muscle you have and moves onto organs not designed to handle that. Muscle doesn't solve the problem, but it helps a lot with spikes.

Anyone have experience with keto long term? I’ve cut carbs, sugars, and processed food out and have been eating sub 1200 calories everyday. It seems to be working like a charm so far but I wonder if I have the willpower to go without this shit for the rest of my life. I just hope it’s enough until I reach my goal weight

>>76463679
As long as you go in and try your best its a win. A good body isnt built off of your best training sessions, its built off the average and below average days that make up the bulk of your training. If youre drained next time you need to lift just do a deload day or take a rest day.

>>76463713
thanks anon, I am being a bitch, but it helpful to hear that. I am into muscle specific deloading at this point. I am pissed the calves seem to be asking for a deload. I'm a fucking fat guy, I should just infinite calves for free. I failed my last set at 400 lbs by 21 and the numbers keep going down.

Again, being a little bitch.

>>76463732
Not at all. The fact that youre struggling means youre giving it your best effort. Your goal in the gym isnt progressive overload per se, its giving it your best effort. The overload comes as a by product of that. You did what you needed, now rest. FWIW today I backslide a bit on my bench press, but then I hit a 45 pound plate on my weighted dips right after. If I got demoralized after bench I wouldnt have even tried. Also I personally would avoid muscle specific deloads since you want to bring your over cns fatigue down too. Just deload for a session or a week if youve been going hard for a month or more. The gains wont go away. Quite the opposite.

>>76463679
As long as you went, it wasn't terrible. Even a bad day going to the gym is a day going to the gym. At the very worst, it will stop you from slipping and help you be prepared to come back better the next day.

What's the science behind me today having some of the worst cravings since I started losing weight around 3 months ago?
Just out of blue, and it's not like I eat like 500kcal daily, on the contrary, I've been skirting around the 1600 mark for the past 3 days, the bare minimum of my goal.

I'm genuinely scared I'll give up again, it's been 5 years trying to lose weight, and at least twice a year I get into it for a week then slowly give up, I want to reach my goals this time, I don't want to be a fatass until I die. Bros, I'm having a breakdown.

>>76463851
as long as you keep tryin, we have all failed at one point

i think i am going to make it

>>76463851
just thinking about the times in animes where you hopelessly fail and the anime protagonist goes suicidal but comes back 10x stronger. you can do it anon

this is the autism power I believe in

Im looking for a compact fitness machine and am considering a water rower,
Any experience with water vs magnetic?(fan too loud for my setup) anything else you would recommend instead?

>>76463906
proud of u anon

>>76463914
for me its rock lee

https://youtu.be/G7RropaNtVg

>>76463930
he was an icon since I was a 7 year old autist

finally had my meal....

Fat bros, how much can you lift in the standing military press position? In every other lift I do, I'm able to progressively overload except in the military press. I always put on 2 10lb weights on the barbell, do a set of 5 reps, then get too tired to do it again. I have to take the weights off and finish my remaining sets with just the bar. My wrists start to hurt too. Does this mean my wrists are too weak to do the lift?

>>76463959
u sound sooooooooo cute

how much do you weigh and your height?

I'm more proficient in other lifts like the mating press but my 1rm isn't high enough to handle your mother

>>76463963
5'6 and 150lb

I'm at chick fila right now and everyone is so fat lol
we need like some country wide nuclear explosion and the radiation makes everyone lose 50 pounds

>>76463973
*jiggles your tummy and gives it a slap*
hehe

>>76463975
approximately 74% of adults in the United States were overweight according to a google search

just imagine a bunch of tubby people walking around.

In the year 2050, everyone will be obese and anyone that is not will be deemed an anorexic weirdo

>>76463976
I know this is happening because I failed my sets again today. Fuck you calling me "cute," someday I'll be shredded and be able to rape you.

>>76463982
*pats your tummy*
i like cuties though, they are always so sweet

>>76463959
Home gym or commercial gym. If youre lifting at a home gym, just buy some .5lb plates and use those to progress. Otherwise keep progressing in reps before you up the weight. Also, you can try cheating the weight up at a higher weight, controlling it on the weight down for one of the sets for a week or two then try do a clean set.

>>76463986
plus one on that. I usually sorta cheat weight it and can get some progress, not always doing it but maybe 1 or 2 times a week.

>>76463973
why arent u taller?

>>76463959
how much do you bench? just curious because im around you measurements -20 pounds and ive never done this exercise before

>>76463995
don't bully him he's a cutie

>>76463995
Hispanic.

>>76463997
I'm barely starting to bench 2 25lb plates, so ~95lbs? I started lifting about a month ago btw.

>BMR of 2100 calories
>have had 1906 cal and 145g protein today
>had a big leg day
>8pm and tummy is still hungry

What do what do what do

>>76464011
go to sleep early

>>76464027
I guess I can spare the calories for a melatonin pill. I am curious how much might weight will increase tomorrow due to leg day

>>76464032
why would a workout cause an increase in ur weight?

>>76464034
he expects 3lbs of raw muscle in the morning

>>76464034
I typically see increases after leg day because its a giant muscle group and thus more water will retain as a result to repair them.

>>76464037
Nah just 3 lbs of water.

i think tonight i'll crawl in bed and munch on 3 rice cakes. waging has made me too tired to cook

>>76464032
>spare the calories for a melatonin pill
why do CICOtards willingly subject themselves to lives of eternal torment
imagine having to count calories to stay skinny while our ancestors ate whatever whenever the fuck they wanted and obesity was unheard of

>>76464058
this is bait

>>76464048
comfy

>>76464058
unironically all my life i mostly stayed an okay weight but i got chubby from work stress

do you guys want to listen to incest anime music openings with me?

I heard it is a great way for weight loss because you don't pay attention to food while you watch this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_bEoYg231g

>>76464067
buy a farm and start serfmaxxing

>>76464069
The oreimo theme is on my workout playlist, but it's one of thousands of songs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHsTG6V19bM

>at holiday world
>pass candy store
>cravings
>pick up pic related
>they’re sold by the bag, not by weight
>$10 per bag
>buy them anyway
>cashier and the staff ask if I want to get more since it would be $10
>I tell them no, I’m cutting and I’m out of calories for the day
>they stare at me bewildered
>”also it’s my company’s money so I don’t care”
>they all laugh
I did good I think for being surrounded by sweets all day. Only 80 calories. I went over a little but I also took 22,000 steps.

I miscalculated and My dinner added up to 1500 calories when I was aiming more for like 1100

I really hope the "expenditure" is relatively accurate on this app, has anyone been using it long term who can comment on it?

I might just do another 20-40 of cycling if o feel up to it later just to be safe

>48 hr water fast
>resets all cravings
>suddenly breeze through watching caloric intake
i need to do water fasts more often, it might be a weekly thing
i've felt total control. the other night, i wanted a snack so i had a handful of pretzels and just put them away. normally, i'm just chowing down

>>76463359
Any thread with "fat" in the comment field gets picked up. Not just the subject line. You can also always check the "Current Threads" list on fattycontest to see which threads the script is actively watching, so that's not something you should really worry about.

So the issue is less that you should be worried about if the script is picking it up, so long as they copy and pasted the body it should pick it up fine, and more that if you make a thread and forget the subject line the thread becomes a little harder to find. That thread was particularly bad because it bundled a completely irrelevant meme as the OP with a missing subject line. So both a cursory glance at the catalogue and a search for "fat loss general" wouldn't pick it up, hence how we ended up with two threads again. This used to be more of an issues and the nunfag has actually helped with this as you can usually just look for the nuns and they stick out in the catalogue with their bright colors, you don't even need to type "fat loss" into the search to find it most of the time, its usually on the first few pages and its the only thumbnail that looks like that.

>>76464265
Do PSMF if you're going to fast, the muscle loss for regular fasting is real.
I started doing rolling 72s for two month last year and nearly all my lifts regressed significantly in that time. I was losing weeks of progress on every lift every week.

>>76464256
>I really hope the "expenditure" is relatively accurate on this app, has anyone been using it long term who can comment on it?
Depends on your settings. If you measure your deficit over some time, it should roughly line up with weight loss, if it doesn't you need to adjust something.

BMR (purple) is an estimation calculated by your bio info so make sure that's all accurate and probably set your activity level (blue) low if you're logging all of your exercise. You can also turn on TEF (dark orange) if you're logging food correctly.

The least accurate part of that is likely going to be exercise (orange) section. 30 minutes of "hard cycling" might describe a completely different level of effort (and calories burned) depending on the person or the bike or the terrain. In that case, you'd want to adjust the effort level or maybe even the time for your entry to more accurately reflect how many calories you're actually burning.

>>76464256
It is if you use a smart watch and enter in your weight every morning.

Another day another success. 50 more years or so to go

>>76464256
What app? I wouldnt take app calculations too seriously. Instead, calculate your tdee for the amount of activity you did today and it'll be around there what you expended. Based on that metric of moderate exercise i did today, I burned somewhere around ~3100 calories. Ate 2000 calories today. I use loseit app and it's tied to linked to my fit bit btw

>>76464256
>ate 1875 calories
>graph is like 35% carbs (blue), 45% fat (red), and only 20% protein (green)
What are you doing man? You should be eating way more protein than that and in fewer calories.

>>76464381
That's cronometer, it tends to be the most accurate and gives the most detailed breakdowns.

Should I just get professional testing done for body fat? Neck + waist tape self measurements seem kind of shit for reliablility

>>76464442
just buy a scale that can measure ur body fat%

>>76462624
Lol surely keto doesn’t smell that bad. Does it? Does it??

>>76464447
impedance scales are dogshit and are often off by as much as 7~10 percentage points. Even more so if you just drank water before measuring yourself.

>>76463358
Just curious what happens to you if you don’t take your anti schizo meds

>>76464442
DEXA scan is the gold standard for body fat percentage. Its the most accurate way to measure bodyfat. Downside is you need to have access to a DEXA scanner and they usually aren't cheap, and you're giving yourself a small X-Ray dose every time you get scanned. Not something you should be doing weekly to track progress, more like maybe once every 6 months.

After DEXA is the caliper method, upside is its cheap, calipers cost next to nothing, doesn't expose you to anything harmful, and can be done at home. Downside is you'll need someone else to measure some of the points like your back, so hopefully you've got someone around you to help you with that, and pinching your skin to get a good reading can be a little uncomfortable. And the accuracy is kinda dependent on the person taking the readings, if they're a retard you'll get retarded results.

Next down is just looking at pictures and guessing. Which tends to be better than even navy method. 30+%, 25%, 20%, 15%, 10% all look pretty distinct and most of the time we're just trying to ballpark our bodyfat% anyway. If you look like you're 30% you're probably roughly 30%, if you look like you're either 30% or 25% you're probably somewhere between. Its not foolproof but for most fatties its all you need.

Next down is navy method, you measure your waist and neck throw it in a calculator and it gives you a number. This number is usually in the correct ballpark, but if you've got an unusual anatomy it can be thrown off pretty easy (thick neck, thin waist, or vice versa).

Next down are any of the various impedance scales, handheld/smartscale/smart watches, they're overpriced bullshit and give a reading that isn't even remotely accurate. Don't trust these at all, waste of time and money.

>>76464345
>I started doing rolling 72s for two month last year and nearly all my lifts regressed significantly in that time.
Did you have quite a decent amount of muscle when you started doing the rollings 72s?

>>76463405
The pain of rebirth is real. You’re burning away the last remnants of your past life you held on to for so long and it’s kind of like losing yourself, and believe me no one said that would be painless would they. Yeah it’s going to take a while to do those things you said, but you forget there will be plenty of good and novel moments along the way you’ll discover that you never even knew existed. Like before taking up running I didn’t know it was possible when running like ~45 minutes straight or so to achieve a kind of bodily high without drugs, it feels like every cell in your body is harmonizing in motion to propel yourself forward, and afterwards you feel inured from pain for like 2 hours or so. It doesn’t happen every time but when it does it feels as good as weed without turning you into a retard, and all you had to pay for it was in sweat

>>76463405
Yeah I recently turned 30 and felt the exact same way.
It's like something clicked in my brain and I realised what I retard I had been for the past decade.
All we can do now is let our past experiences propel us forward in the right direction.

>>76464494
Where does ChatGPT rank? I find what it says plausible. Also it’ll do the math for you on the spot for how long it’ll take to reach your goal.

>>76464521
No idea, never tried it, but I guess its just looking at pictures and guessing but with an AI at the helm?

>>76463975
I think the best attitude is to think about how easy it is to look exceptional in a world where everyone looks like shit. Just good grooming and not being fat makes you top 20%. Fix your teeth, skin and hair and you’re top 5%. Otter mode makes you top 1%.

>>76464523
Yep. Try it and see what you think.

>>76464533
I think my loose skin is throwing it off, it says I'm 10%, but to my eye I'm more like 25~20%. I'll get a DEXA scan done next month so we'll see where that puts me.

You know what I just learned? Most bird species don't have penises. Male cloacas.
Only a few species like ducks, geese, ostriches and emus have dicks. Most birds pass sperm with a "cloaca kiss".

Most birds are fucking lesbians.

Anyways I lost 2lbs this week, I'm in maintenance mode.

>>76464549
I believe a lot of reptiles are like that as well, i.e no penises and using cloaca kisses to reproduce with the females of their species.

Time to my 10k steps for the day while ruminating on this.

>>76464549
In a sense human males have cloacas too, since our dickholes are combination piss and cum unlike female's separated urethra. Not so different, us and the birds.

It's a fasting day

>>76464587
are u the same anon every time? u seem to fast like every other day or something

>>76464593
Yeah, I try to fast every other day

>>76464604
why take on such a harsh challenge? do u need to lose weight that fast/ do you need to lose that much weight?
what are ur stats? height n weight

>>76464610
I wanna get there as soon as possible.
I have around 8 kilos to lose
I should reach it in a month or two

>>76464613
how much have u lost so far?

>>76464624
I think more than 10 kilos
I've done it through OMAD

>>76464637
Notice any loss in muscle from the fasting? Have your lifts stalled or regessed at all?

>>76464497
>The pain of rebirth is real. You’re burning away the last remnants of your past life you held on to for so long and it’s kind of like losing yourself,
You know its weird. It feels like the opposite for me. Ive changed so much, but Ive never felt more like myself. Like the things that made me "me" are present more than ever.

>>76464640
I just do cardio

>>76464604
That sounds like the hardest way to do it. The appetite loss from fasting usually doesnt hit until the second or third day. First day of fasting is always the hardest and you've set yourself up to have one first day after another. Sounds like a nightmare scenario. Why not just do rolling 72s?

>>76464649
RIP

>>76464650
Yeah rolling 72s would be easier

>>76464650
in what world is the 1st day of fasting not the easiest?
its the next days that are impossible

To the people in this thread that fast and live with their parents, doesnt your family say anything?

>>76464665
u have to be 18 or older to be on here

>>76464665
They already think I’m a bit odd for going so hard on my cut. If I started fasting they’d probably get help for me.

>>76464668
Im just curious. Im actually visiting my family for the week so it got me thinking and I know theres people here living with their parents.

>Finally starting my summer cut
>Aiming for keto, but I start it off with a fast to supercharge it or whatever
>Fast for two and a half days
>Break fast with rotisserie chicken (mmm) and whole milk (fucking delicious)
>Remember milk has a surprisingly high amount of sugar (I learned this last year)
>Oops
Did I fuck up the ketosis or just throw my macros off a bit? It was like a few gulps, I doubt it was even a cup, certainly not more than two cups.

Also I am craving Nutella and cookies so bad bros.

>>76464662
This one, first day of fasting im ravenous, second day my appetite just evaporates at some point and doesnt come back until I refeed, then it hits me like a truck and im suddenly ravenous again. I was doing 5 day fasts because of this, it was so much easier just to keep the fast going than it was to end it and start over.

Fatty Contest
Name: Dzonathan Gavert
Weight: 113.55 kg

Overall progress:
https://tinylink.net/1Jdoy

Motivational Song of the Day:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFMYf4hiB64

>>76464692
NTA but how are you guys doing such long fasts so effortlessly? I use an app to track mine, 57 fasts total and only 2 have reached 48+ hours. Is everyone using some fancy electrolyte supplements or something? I just use water+salt

>>76464442
my advice is that you already have the waist measurement, why overcomplicate this into some magic number?
write down your waist and current weight and compare that with future values
ps. might not work as well for women because of fat distribution

I feel like the fattest skinny person ever
>Went to the park, did some cycling, did like 40 pull ups, almost killed myself
>Went to a burger restaurant right after and ordered a half pound burger with guac, bacon, extra cheese, and a lettuce wrap
>it tasted great but half a fucking pound of meat didn't fill me up
>went immediately after to chick fila and ordered some chicken nuggets and coffee
this is my healthiest pig out session yet

>>76464557
Just came back from my 10k steps and had a revelation during it:

Dragon dildos have long been an internet meme but since dragons are essentially flying bird lizards they would likely have cloaca as well instead of a penis.

>>76464753
This anons 100% right

>>76464715
NTA but I also do 5 day fasts like the other anon said, for me the first and second day are always the hardest and day 3+ onwards are a joke.
As for how I keep going? I can only speak for myself but:

>do light exercise (the 10k steps per day meme is unironically a good idea)
>keep your mind busy with work, learning a new language, a hobby, vidya etc
>drink salt water
>eat to just under maintenance on refeed day and take a multivitamin

That's what works for me.

>>76462669
nice bro

Losing weight was WAY fucking easier before getting involved with women, god damn

>>76464774
This is forbidden knowledge, please dont share it.

>>76464334
we ended up with 2 threads because nunfag was having an aneurysm. anyone can search or ctrl + f the word fat

>>76462861
>>76463288
>>76462423
according to nunfag we are all the same person sabotaging him and so now he has to be even more jobless to make sure the threads have nuns

>>76464715
>>76464793
What this guy said. Though I was doing 1/4 teaspoon of pinksalt + 1/4 teaspoon nosalt in a glass of water as my electrolyte source once a day, usually after my 10k step walk.

If I were to start fasting again id probably make snake juice and try that. Ive been on OMAD since my lifts were regressing when I was fasting. Though I guess OMAD technically counts as fasting, I dont really consider it the same thing.

>>76464851
Just remember to put in the subject line next time.

niggas help me i can't stop eating oranges
its 1 am and i'm in my kitchen butt naked cutting and eating oranges
it's been 10 minutes and ive scuffed down 3 now

>>76464864
don't talk to me, talk to one of the several other mes

>>76464851
You are genuinely an insane person

>>76464978
get off my dick boy

>>76464981
You've been having a 24 hour meltdown because people like the Nun threads instead of your dog shit cringe threads. Grow up.

>>76464978
His thread got cucked days ago and he's STILL seething about it.

>>76464984
you genuinely think i'm samefagging. lol. lmao

>>76464991
I don't think you are, I know you are. Everyone knows because it's so obvious. Seek help, you clearly need it.

>>76464993
go ahead and reply to everyone itt that's me then

water weight mafia injected me with saline in the night

>>76464998
Grow up, Nun threads will be made and you will seethe.

>>76465009
non-nun threads will be threatened and you will sweat. and i don't even have to be in the thread and you'll still think it's me because you're autistic

>>76465020
You have some serious unresolved mental issues

they should just shut down 4chaim for late night schizo hours

>>76462406 (OP)
IT NEVER FUCKING ENDS

>>76465026
okay sure. and you believe that everyone is the same person

>>76465047
unfortunately, at some point it does end, it ending is unavoidable regardless of whether or not you make it

>>76465060
crab!
demoralization post!

>eat many carbs
>number go up
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>76465070
no you misunderstand I am saying that even if you make it, which you will because wagmi, but even if you make it, it will still end. Entropy comes for us all

>>76465110
I understood you just fine, I just don't personally believe in entropy.

>>76465152
Schizo post

>10k steps
Consider it done, son

I just ate so much chicken breast my stomach hurts. Whoops. I'm glad protein is low calorie.

I've got like 800g more to go untill I'm back under 100kg and only 11 days to make it... I don't wanna fast...

>>76465447
500 calorie deficit, 3500 a week, equals around 500 grams of weight loss in a week or around 71 grams per day

11 days 71 grams at a 500 deficit, that's 781 grams, i mean its close

Good mornings, frens. Stay strong.

>>76465469
Okay good. That's close enough, I should be able to manage 600 without much issue even.

>>76464840
Women ruin everything

>>76465475
We have to stay all strong. We must keep grinding every day for the rest of our lifes

>>76462406 (OP)
If a redditor can do this so can you.

>>76465498
at least its reassuring that it works, and we're not the only ones doing it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzp8yb-DTUU

>>76465503
almost none of us are this handsome no matter how much fat we peel back

>>76465503
That's AI

Trying to lose 6 pounds in 2 weeks but only have a BMR of 1700 because I'm in my 30s.

I eat 1500 cals, I have to burn 1300 cals on top of my BMR.

Now I usually get close, the last 2 weeks I lost 5 pounds, but thats still a bit short.

Thinking of doing 2 hours of 3mpg incline walking(12%) at the gym, I also walk about 10k steps to the gym and back. Think this is enough to push me into a TDEE of 3000?

>>76465598
>I have to burn 1300 cals on top of my BMR
That's not happening

>>76465601
I came pretty close the last 2 weeks, losing 5 pounds.

Been operating at a 1250 calories deficit, just gotta stretch a little farther.

>>76465598
probably should have started earlier you dumbass

Fatty Contest
BetterNateThanLever
223.8 lbs

Normally I do this on Monday, but I was on vacation in a place without a scale. As you can see, this is also why my number went up. Lots of good food where I went, I ain't gonna let it slip by me. I did a shitload of walking and jogging there, so it's not like I was morphing back into a couch potato. I return to my usual diet immediately.

so the only way for me to cut out sugar from my diet was to make everything myself,
like holy fuck nearly everything in a package has added sugar.

>>76465693
One thing I started doing is that I'll buy unflavored skyr, mix in fruit instead. Or even buy one tub of unflavored and one tub of flavored and MIX those to half the sugar.

I do the same with protein powder. I have a flavored pack and an unflavored pack and I mix those.

It's funny because all the unflavored things have better stats. My unflavored protein powder and less calories and more protein than the flavored, and when you mix them you dont even notice.

So I was cutting for 4 months. Went from 95kg to 87ish. 174cm so manlet material. I gym 4x a week with 8k steps minimum as cardio. I'm on kinda the muscular side but the links from the sticky calculate my TDEE as 2180 calories which I eat 2k cals a day. Haven't been losing proper weight for a month now and I'm fucking confused and tired. Surely lost some belly fat and generally getting lean but 9kgs in 4 months is not what I was hoping for. No way that my actual TDEE is 2180 cals and I'm only on 180cals deficit right? I should be losing a kg by the week but fuck all has been changing. It's been so long and tiring I'm getting crazy.

Navy calculator shit calculates my bf% as 34 which I thought was lower but it makes more sense more I look at the mirror

>>76465716
shouldn't have waited a whole month, you should be weighting yourself every morning, making a week average and if you didn't lose weight that week, that means you need to eat less
also, if you are going to the gym, you NEED to include a waist measurement (around the belly button so you measure the same place). Otherwise you won't be able to differentiate between muscle and fat weight

>>76464073
you are the most autistic poster in this thread and I love u.

brings me back to those good memories of that weird autistic girl that made me watch incest animes with her for some reason.

>>76465253
I just reached 10k steps as well. do you want to do a celebratory make out session so we can lose some extra calories?

>>76465745
I weigh myself weekly but have just been seeing 87kg on the scale. I'm doing everything correctly as in food I eat and how much I eat with a kitchen scale. I'm eating so little already with 2k calories I don't think its a good idea to go less with work and all.

>>76462406 (OP)
thoughts on AWs?

>>76465777
they make u look cool and lots of women like it so its GOOD

Creatine day 6
First day the scale did not increase. I was the same weight as yesterday (218.4)
Up 2.8lbs from my low weight

>>76465786
Ive taken creatine for months now, it makes my piss smell horrible

>>76465805
members when that one poster posted about his pee tasting sweet and among all the talk about him diabetes no one questioned or brought up the fact that he was drinking his own pee? i members

another morning, another bowl of cottage cheese for breakfast

>>76465824
why just cottage cheese

>>76465818
that's how they tested for it in ancient times, unironically

>>76465827
its fast low calorie and filling

>>76465716
>No way that my actual TDEE is 2180 cals and I'm only on 180cals deficit right?
Yes, I'm afraid it is like that. Remember also that your TDEE goes down as you lose weight. If you keep the same intake you'll reach equilibrium sooner or later. Which apparently you have done now, unless it's just a longish plateau. That can happen.
>9kgs in 4 months is not what I was hoping for
Why is that? That's on average a bit over 0,5kg/week which is just about optimal pace for long term weight loss. Slow and steady wins the race.

>>76465777
Nice digits, what the fuck is an AW?

>>76465834
me too. My schedule got screwed up so I missed buying my parking lot eggs.

>>76465848
>parking lot eggs.
parking lot?

>>76465852
maybey he means those boiled eggs what they sell at gas stations

>>76465838
Fuck me dude I hate this shit so bad

Thanks a lot anon for the harsh truths

>>76465843
arm windmills

>>76465852
I tagged incorrectly, but yea parking lot.

The hutterites sell eggs out of vans. Quite common as far as I know. They usually are only there for an hour. Taste better, I assume healthier.

>>76465854
I usually get thse prosciutto wrapped in string cheese things at the gas station, overpriced but it at least keeps me away from buuying mcgriddles

>>76464334
Nobody types in fat loss for the search though, you type /fat/ and thats how I found that thread as well so that's just a fake excuse

>>76465859
i thought he meant apple watches

Fatty Contest
KickboxAnon
220.3lbs

>>76465859
I'm partial to a different kind of windmills.

>>76465875
I thought he meant Amazon Web Services

>>76465891
>I thought he meant Amazon Web Services
it would be AWS then u idiot

>>76465843
Aesthetic Workout

>>76465865
>The hutterites sell eggs out of vans

>>76465875
if he did, fuck AWs.

It drives me crazy when I lookup other people on my workout app. Look at somebody, and check if they might have a good workout to copy or at least parts of.
>Hip Thrusts - 268.1 lbs (Posted by apple watch)

The fucking things will attempt to fill out your workout using the sensors and adds body weight or some other bullshit. I get you can turn it off, but holy fuck it is annoying to have no frame of reference if you are trying to see what other people are doing.

Officially down 25lbs since mid june.
Just 30-45 lbs left to go.
Going to be celebrating good this new years

just emptied my bowels and lost another half kilo

What about Android-compatible smart watches? If I don't want to deal with chinkshit, am I really stuck with Samsung, Garmin and Google of all things?

>>76465970
not all chinese stuff is automatically crap. I bought an amazfit bip when they came out, can't remember. it's been at least 7 years, and it still works totally fine

>>76465986
>not all chinese stuff is automatically crap
True, but it's more of a principle standpoint regarding current events.

Does nobody here use fairlife milk to hit their protein goals? A 80 cal glass of milk for 13g of protein is pretty great

>>76466004
I'd rather have a scoop of protein powder in a glass of nut milk.

>>76466004
yup it pretty much helps me hit it

>>76466009
how do you not get constipated?

>>76466004
I eat 600g of high protein cottage cheese a day (90g protein, 480kcal), leaves me to mostly eat whatever else I want without worrying about macros.

>>76466025
By eating a balanced varied diet outside of a single post-workout shake?

>>76466009
I got off protein powder cause I just hated the taste and hated life when drinking it

>>76466000
you mean like maga tariff stuff, or you ethically don't want to buy from china? If it makes you feel any better, samsung and google are also terrible companies

>>76466004
I haven't seen fairlife where I am, but I have been drinking pre-packaged milk protein things with lunch. The ones I get have a bunch of different flavors, one type has 100 kcal / 15g protein and there's another with 110kcal 20g protein. Probably loaded with terrible artificial sweeteners or something, but it just tastes like regular chocolate milk to me.

>>76466064
>you ethically don't want to buy from china
This. As terrible as Samsung and Google are, I have more issues with China than with them.

>>76466056
doesn't work for me

>>76464478
everyone becomes my enemy

>>76465875
What kind of dyel doesn't know about arm windmills

Grim Dawn is fun as fuck. This is my new addiction to keep me away from food.

>just had a big green apple for breakfast
>still have 1257 left for the day
dunno if i wanna have a huge lunch then small dinner or small lunch and huge dinner.

>>76466166
For me, these grindy games are never complete without something to munch on.
Also Grim Dawn is kinda lame, I'd rather play D2 for the 9999th time.

>>76466249
>D2
Lmao

Whats the best tracker app? Paid or free. Im looking for one that will automically update the TDEE and BMR estimates as weight is logged.

>>76466264
Literally the best meme going. Just use a pen and paper.

>>76466264
Cronometer, get the modded APK with all the premium features.

>>76466249
>>76466166
For me its FFXI, catseye added prestige bonuses and I can't stop exping. Its all I think about day and night. Can't even peel myself away from it long enough to cook or eat.

>>76466249
>>76466166
Based, if I didn't play games I would 100% be even fatter
Just because I get bored easily and want to fill that with food

>Wake up
>Look good, not bloated
>Eat food
>Look like shit instantly for the rest of the day from bloat

Almost wanna go low sodium KETO, I wonder if I get lean enough if the bloating will get less bad. Technically not even overweight anymore .

>stop binge eating
>walk and jog
>lose weight
Is it really that shrimple?

>have surgery
>give up on diet
>put on weight
Kinda miss meatzza. Gonna go back to it soon.

>>76466278
Link to that?

>>76466300
>stop binge eating
That's my biggest problem

I told AI how much I binged yesterday and thats what it said:

This is a significant amount of food for one sitting. While calorie needs vary greatly based on age, sex, height, weight, and activity level, 2500+ calories is often close to an entire day's maintenance for many adults, or even a surplus.

What to do now:

Don't panic. One meal doesn't define your health or progress.

Hydrate: Drink plenty of water.

Gentle Movement: A light walk can aid digestion, but don't try to "burn it off" intensely.

Listen to your body: You likely feel very full. Honor that feeling and don't eat again until you're genuinely hungry.

Resume Normal Habits: Get back to your usual eating pattern at your next meal or the next day. No need for drastic restriction.

Reflect (Optional): Consider what led to eating this volume. Were you very hungry? Stressed? Distracted? This can help with future mindful eating.

>>76466313
Cronometer v4.43.0 MOD APK (Premium Unlocked)

>>76466278
>>76466313
To be fair you don't really need the paid features. It already updates your limits based on your stats and goals even in the free version, not to mention simpler stuff like regular food tracking.

>>76466332
The ads in the free version made me want to not use it.

>>76466316
>Reflect (Optional): Consider what led to eating this volume. Were you very hungry? Stressed? Distracted? This can help with future mindful eating.
this is important. I overate today but I am still below me TDEE.

Still more than usual. I think it is because I was put on to do some strenuous work at work. There is not much to do so what can i do...

Fatty Contest
Makimas Footstool
124.3kg

I'M SO HAPPY MY STUPID ASS PLATEAU IS OVER, TIME TO CELEBRATE FRIENDS, FUCK MY BODY, PRAISE THE LAWS OF THERMODYNAMICS, WAGMI! <3

NEXT
>>76466344 >>76466344 >>76466344 >>76466344

>>76466341
It should be illegal to advertise fast food inside fitness apps. We're a vulnerable population and this is exploitation.

>>76464978
>>76464993
>>76465026
And there he is again. Is that really the baker? I'm enjoying a lot less of these threads if the baker is a sperg like that.
Well go on then, we're over bump limit. Time to do your stuff, autist boy. If it's so important to you.

>>76466336
I barely get any other than the tiny banners that are easy to ignore. Also no ads on the website, courtesy of uBlock.

>>76466336
>>76466373
You guys don't block ads on your phone?

>>76466380
Only in the browser.

Here's a life hack guys, if you eat only chicken and broccoli you don't need to count calories because ain't no way you'll eat like kilos and kilos of chicken to go over your TDEE. Also, there's nothing in my house to binge, if I want to eat anything I need to cook it for like an hour, and there's only chicken broccoli and salad in the house, so even if I do cook it ain't gonna affect me anyways. It's so easy to lose weight like that lol

>>76466393
>ain't no way you'll eat like kilos and kilos of chicken to go over your TDEE
...I probably COULD

>>76466393
>>76466405
I know for a fact I can. I ate 4500kcals of chicken and broccoli the other day without even trying.

>>76466203
Huge lunch, small dinner is the way. I always sleep better when my stomach isn't overly full

>>76466341
God i love patchouli

>>76466329
Thanks. Do I just sign up from normal and the admins of the app cant do a thing about it?

>>76466688
Pretty much.

Here's a life hack guys, if you dont eat anything ever, you wont go over your TDEE

>>76466707
@ChatGPT is this true?

>>76464334
>You can also always check the "Current Threads" list
that wasn't possible because the fattycontest script wasn't working at the time.

>>76465253
step counting is propaganda which I am as an autist am uniquely immune to

I'm trying to lose weight and have taken two different approaches so far. One of them has been considerably easier. When I focused solely on eating healthy, I had almost no cravings, and it felt like my body was doing most of the work. But when I add weight training into the mix, I find myself constantly hungry. Sometimes even eating above maintenance and gaining weight. What’s the trick, brothers?