Thread 76489601

It's the start of the week again, take a deep breath in, hold it and exhale

Were you thinking of giving up today? No you weren't. You made it through last week, you'll make it through this one as well

What are your goals for this week? What do you plan to achieve? List it all down.

Take a deep breath, hold it and exhale, move at your own pace

We're ALL gonna make it

The motivation thread is open

Last week’s thread >>76432688

a little cringe to start the day

>>76489601 (OP)
I exist in a permanent state of pessimism and self-consciousness and I'm struggling to change my mindset. I want to try and feel like I did when I was younger; excited about life and enjoying the small things but it's difficult. Any anons know this feel?

>>76489601 (OP)
Today I'm going to every fucking electrician company in my town and asking for an apprenticeship. I was a 4th year that has been on a 2 year sabbatical and I'm ready to get back in.
>inb4 apply online
FUCK. NO.
>lol you need javascript experience to be able to work here
Literally the most retarded, braindead, Adderall addicted, blown out roastie HR whore had to have made that either as a sign they are hiring a nepo or she is a dumb cunt and layoffs need to hit HR NOW.
>go in person to 2 companies using this method and they offer me a job (which i left because the people there sucked. fuck white boys from suburbia that listen to ghetto trap rap and speak in ebonics)

My first born turns 1 month old on Saturday. Life has been crazy for the past year but I couldn't be happier. Keep rolling with the punches lads, WAGMI

>>76489911
Based. Congratulations to the little guy.

>>76489627
We must accept cringe in order to live freely :)

>>76489911
Congrats anon
It gets easier

>>76489746
Good luck bro! Make sure to be firm and explain the benefits of hiring you

>>76489911
Checked and congrats! Keep working hard so you can become the type of dad your son will look up to. WAGMI

>>76490111
true but we all have our limits!

This Monday really marks the beginning of the end of my life.

Last week I had a complete mental breakdown after 33 years of living like a complete loser. Never having a relationship or sex, rarely having friends, limited social experiences, never leaving my dead end job, living with my parents, I don't drive, pretty much anything you can imagine a loser doing, it's been my entire life. Probably the only loser thing I didn't do was get addicted to drugs/alcohol/crime. Broke down at my parents, saying how much I want to kill myself and hate living, I'm going to go on medical leave at my job then never return, I'm so far behind, I've wasted my entire life, there's no help for me and it's over, etc. They talk to me about needing to get mental help from a therapist or psychologist, or taking me to a hospital, but I know there's no point. You don't go THIRTY THREE YEARS doing absolutely nothing to improve or live your life then suddenly recover when you're completely barren of any skills, and life experience, any confidence, any self-esteem, and do nothing but fixate and ruminate on how I've wasted my entire life.

Now that I'm just going to be a complete NEET bum, I really don't see how there's any way out of this. Even if I did manage to get a more fulfilling job, that's the least of my worries when you look at the abyss that is the rest of my life. I don't see any hope for the future. I don't see any way how I could ever manage to scrounge up any semblance of a decent, worthwhile life. The prospect of everything terrifies me

Sorry to whine and lfie blog on 4chan, that's just how pathetic I am

>>76489746
>>76490205
And I'm back. Literally 1 place allowed me to fill something out in person. The rest told me to fuck off and fill out online and/or reach out to HR which means I'm still at the mercy of roasties. I've got 1 more company I worked at for several year I will try later in the week. If they say no then I think I'm going to start playing a game of Russian Roulette every morning when I wake up. This job market is so unbelievably fucked.

last week was fucking awful. Monday, probably an hour after I posted, my wife called me from her appointment bawling and i knew immediately shit was fucked. our little peanut stopped growing three weeks ago. they call it a silent miscarriage. it hit us crazy hard because there were no warning signs at all. to make it even worse, tomorrow is her birthday. i didn't even have a drink until Saturday because i didn't know if I would go into a tailspin. i had an in-person interview the next day and the whole time it just felt like static - if you've ever withdrawn from opiates you know the feeling. Just numb. Especially since i was pushing harder and harder lately because of the little guy. the good news is that because it was a chromosome issue it took a painful as hell decision out of our hands. She's gotta go back to the hospital next week and then in a month we should be good to try again.
On the good side - the interview went well. It ended up being a 5v1 but the recruiter called me back before I even got home to tell me I'm moving on to the final stage and they really liked me.
Cardio is going well. I'm losing weight and the gains are not going away. I'm gonna bump that up to 6k next week. The hard part will be maintaining cardio gains in winter.
i miss that little peanut

>>76490567
Take big steps if you can, small steps if you can't.
What else are you going to do? Unless you got the balls to kill yourself, what have you got to lose by trying you fucking faggot?

What was your job? Probably not going to check this thread again, but maybe some other anon can give you specific insight on how to leverage what little knowledge you have into valuable skills. Usually if you've worked at something for a while and have some form of sentience, you tend to notice things that are actually quite insightful that the NPCs haven't.
Also if you worked at a job for about 10 years while living with your parents, even at min wage, that means you got a significant wealth fund which you can spend out of for your mental health/self improvement.

You're not a woman. Stop talking about your feelings and do something about it like a man. Here's a bunch of random generic tips
>1) don't be a fatty, go to a gym, work out
>2) sort out your mental health retard. get on meds
>3) work out your financial situation. What's your net worth? Can you actually sustain yourself without your parents? Insert career plan here if you can't.
>4) work out a plan to improve your social life. Sounds like you're a loser, so what have you got to lose by going backpacking/travelling/whatever?
>5) (Optional) Pick up racism and realise it's not your fault (((they))) have made a psy-oped materialist system where inevitably a big portion of the population is doomed to fail intrinsically

>Start to prepare for my CFA 2 exam, i have been postponing it so much.
>Trying to get over my ex.
>Trying to get over my fear of death.
> Wanting to get more muscular and lose fat.
>Keep learning about entrepreneurship (i dont want to be a wagie all my life).
>Keep going to church.
>Leaving bad friends (i feel more alone than ever).
TL;DR I will keep fighting for the difficult and to be brave.

Tested bench today for the first time a while and got 245x2
Might have gotten a third of there was a gun to my head but no safeties and it's not fucking a shoulder over
Gonna give GZCL a try I think, I've wasted enough time with submax high reps 531 shit
Life wise I'm just gonna keep waging, I have $35k in the bank and get paid to scrool and shitpost what more do I really need

I WILL MEET ALL OF MY DEADLINES
I WILL STUDY HARD
I WILL PASS MY LEVEL 3 CFA EXAM
I WILL CROSS THIS MOUNTAIN

I am improving at work but challenges keep on piling up. Meeting all of my deadlines seems incredibly difficult but I just need to keep up my pace. I’ve made mistakes, stumbling across the way. However I will succeed if I work hard every day

The path towards the summit remains demanding. Some days are great, some days are rough. But my daily effort will define me across this journey. I’ve already attempted this trek once, this time I’m reaching the top. I will finish the CFA program by this time next year.

Good luck on your travels frens! Although we may stumble and fall, our future selves will thank us for our perseverance

>>76491074
Nice, happy you hit a new PR. What made you want to try GZCL?

>>76490819
>1
Until you realize everyone around you is a fat blob and collectively brings down society as a whole. You can be the only person who doesn't smoke but if everyone else in the room smokes, you might as well

>2
No. The meds make you wanna kill yourself more or turn you into a zombie. Only thing I'd ever recommend is abusing Adderall if you don't mind losing your libido

>3
There is no career plan any more unless you can nepobaby your way into a position. Skills do not matter. Fucking blue collar jobs now ask you to have a 2 year degree.

>4
Wow I traveled and I still wanted to KMS in Germany, France, China, Australia, USA... And now my net worth has shrunk even more!

>5
The only good advice

I've reached unc status. Is it over?

>>76491551
Nah. You've just gotta adjust your priorities a little. This is the stage of your life where you should know who you are and what you want. Stay in good shape and stay productive. Start a family if you want that sort of thing. But playing video games all night and shit becomes a little sad at your age (assuming you're in your 30s). I'm approaching unc status, and I'm happier than I've ever been, 'cause I've put a lot of time into gradually building myself up. But the people who don't take care of themselves age like this and really wear their unc status.

>>76491310
always makes me laugh seeing people endlessly recommend "traveling" or "backpacking" like its going to fix their lives. like people who are depressed where they've always been, likely lacking meaningful social connections, are going to completely change their personality just by going to a different country or something, suddenly start being very social with people, starting to love life because they see other cultures or landmarks or something.

ill be the first to tell you, i dont go on vacations. i havent been on a legit vacation in over a decade. but i spent most of my childhood going on a vacation with my parents every summer, and went on a trip to asia with my mother after graduating college over a decade ago. through all those trips, i was never particularly happy or relaxed. even as a kid when its the easiest to make friends, i dont think i ever met any other kids on those trips. most of my trips, even as a child, or in my early 20s on the asia trip, i was very self conscious about how i was a typical loser and everyone around me even in other countries seemed to all be happy and i wasnt.

It is not much
but at least it is honest autism work
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>>76489601 (OP)
I started going to the gym 3 weeks ago and I haven't missed a day.

>>76490789
I’m really sorry about your loss, Snorlax. I know how much you were looking forward to being a dad and building a future for the kid. But like you said, it’s nobody fault. Please take care of yourself and your wife during this period. You can still build a bright future

>>76489601 (OP)
23 years old. Finished the Fire academy in my country this June. Got hired and started working as a firefighter a few days ago. Literally finished my 5th day today. I really like the profession and I want to be good at it, but man......sometimes I feel like I am retarded. I forgot how scary new beginnings can be.

>>76491008
When’s your CFA exam? Good luck on your goals, they’re all admirable. I would recommend trying to find new friends before cutting off your toxic ones

>>76489601 (OP)
My back workout starts with biceps. Your thoughts?

>>76491671
Thanks for the images, sigAnon. I can’t wait to send you new ones this December :)

>>76492174
I want to take the first exam of the following year. I belive it was on May. So this year i want to finish reading the Kaplan notes and until May practice.

Regarding the friends is complicated, more when you feel a betrayal. In short, I asked my friend not to talk to my ex because after the relationship, there was a lot of arguing. Not only did she talk to him more than once, but she didn't tell me, and I found out from her during an argument.
tl;dr my friend since preschool betray me.

More or less first time in gym today, not that I ever stuck to it in the past.
I'm a fucking twig, but it isn't the small weights that demotivates me. Oh no, I don't care about that. It's how clumsy I am and how much I lack articulation. When I use machines the concentric movement is fine I suppose, but eccentric is always so jerky and uneven. But it gets so much worse when doing free weights. I took 4kg dumbells just to practice the proper bench press movement and on the way down it's awful. Someone else please tell me they were clumsy, not just weak when they started out.

>been lifting for a year now
>2-5 nights a week, pretty consistent, averaging out to every other day for the entire year
>make great progress, get beginner gains, lose weight
>shoulder pain has steadily been increasing in one shoulder for the past few months
>decide to reel it back a little on lifting and focus on cardio
>now knee pain is flaring up pretty bad in one knee
>shoulder pain still just as bad
>fucked up my hand in softball a couple months ago and never gave it a rest, hand is still achy and grip strength is not great
>took the entire past week off, everything still hurts
Guys... I might need to take an actual extended break from exercise. I don't think a few rest days are gonna fix this.

>>76491310
>1
>wah wah wah other people are shit therefore I might as well be shit.
You are literally goycattle. Go stuff your face with McSlop then you fat fuck.
>2
Depends on the meds and your body's reaction to it. Some people experience 0 side effects. Some people like me are resistant. You don't know until you try them.
>3
>imagine thinking that it's only white office jobs or retarded blue collar work.
Plenty of fields which most people don't even think of which require work but due to low competition, will guarantee you a decent lifestyle for average effort. What else are you going to do? NEET or work in hospitality forever? Lol. Lmao even. Don't blame me for your lack of imagination just because you get all your ideas about working from TV shows. You can easily start a small business or if you're mildly scientifically inclined, pioneer a new service/idea. Plenty of unexplored/underdeveloped ideas under the sun.
>4
>Bitch about a specific example suggested instead of the wider point about trying new things.
Cool story retard. Stay gooning in your room then. It's all about trying new things to find SOMETHING that works. Staying in your room guarantees you stay a retarded loser. Trying new things gives you a % chance of breaking out, or do you not understand the idea of opportunity probability because you're a nigger?
(5% of each incidence)*10 = 50% chance of breaking the loop > (0% of each incidence)*0. This is basic statistical logic.
>5
Thanks anon.

>>76491636
It's hilarious because even as someone who hasn't travelled or backpacked it's evident that you can't even conceptualise "muh travel" in the correct terms, let alone judge it on its merits and demerits. You went on those trips with your parents, lacking in personal independence guided by plans not set by you, and with individuals who you already knew.
Backpacking is about detachment which is why it's such a rite of passage for the faggots who do it. It's about being completely self reliant, in a completely foreign environment, while being surrounded by new people your age which inherently forces you to sink or swim regarding social skills. The reason why you met no one was because you were being a coddled fuck and was literally not doing anything different from being at home with your family other than being in a new place. You are a fucking loser because you think that it's about the physical location, rather than the actual situations and mindset which would allow you to try to not be a loser.

>>76492608
>1
Yes. There is no reason not to be at this point.

>3
>plenty of fields that are unknown
>you can start a job
Said by someone who is arguably not in some unknown field nor is running a small business.

>4
>gives generic advice that does nothing
>gets called out and is mad
You missed the point where trying new things doesn't really work when the overall greater picture doesn't matter.
>opportunity probability
So the solution is to gamble and hopefully nepo your way into a position? But I thought you said not to be a piece of shit like everyone else?

>>76491715
Congrats bro! keep up the momentum

>>76491836
So you’re completely new. You’ll grow stronger and adjust to this new environment. As you experience it more often, you’ll learn how to navigate it better. There’s no shame in being afraid

>>76492626
>ok so you're too depressed to really do anything besides the bare minimum to survive
>you could kill yourself OR you could be stranded by yourself and try to use your *lack* of social skills, *lack* of charisma, and/or *lack* of drive to try and survive
>also don't try to think about the fact you are losing your networth
>also i've never done it but you should totally do it :))))

I have a 5 week old baby and it’sA major gains goblin. Not sure I’m gonna make it out of this one bros.

Got a sick workout in today though.

I realize now I was never really an incel. I guess that turning down girls means that I did have a chance at love. On one hand, it's nice, knowing that I was just picky, but on the other, I feel like I lose a sense of tragic motivation and narrative appeal

>>76492871
If you're at the point of suicide then trying any thing new wouldn't be an issue. Not that anon but just do shit you always wanted to try. Who cares if you die, that was the end goal anyways

i'm not going to fucking make it

two years ago i was in the best shape i've ever been. not enough to impress anyone on /fit/, but i had definition and good body composition. now i look like the fucking alien from american dad

and the worst part isn't just the fact of looking like dog shit, but knowing that with the absurd amount of shit i have going on in my life that i simply do not have the chance to fix it

I told myself i wouldn't be one of those people who hits the wall and turns into a fat piece of shit after 30, but here i am

>>76489601 (OP)
>I shall make it through this week even after contracting virtual reality sickness this afternoon
>I shall get my sleep and wake up at 7:30 each weekday
>I shall do my workouts the second I wake up and push that car up the hill
>I shall recommit to my 3 miler mondays, wednsday sprints, and friday 4 milers
>I shall go no lower than those runs as today's 3 miler in +80 degree heat burnt off a good 4 or so lbs
>I shall return to my usual gym workouts, especially after my Sunday workout showed I can still bench my max of 2 reps of 135lbs
>I shall return to my sauna routine to further my progress
>I shall lose another 0.5lbs after my weight swung hard today even though it experienced a net gain
>I shall press on with my STEM major
>I shall...

>>76492255
I’d recommend starting with hex machine deadlifts or pull ups

>>76492871
This is exactly what I mean by the "solo travel" meme that always gets recommended to depressed loser guys. The people who recommend it don't see how silly of one it is.

>oh whats that? you're a loser and havent had basic accomplishments in your entire life? too depressed to really function as a human? just go traveling alone around the world bro. backpacking is a rite of passage, youll be completely self-reliant, after a lifetime of self-reliance provided you nothing, in a country where you know absolutely no one to go to for help, probably dont speak the language, and suddenly will spontaneously develop great social skills that youve never had your entire life to become friends with "all these people your own age" (how the fuck does he even know youll be around similarly aged people) and magically transform into a worthwhile adult

>>76493202
Keep moving anon. It sucks that the bridge broke but the next emergency ranger cabin is still a hundred miles out. At least you'll know you'll be ahead of some of the savages that walk this earth.

>>76489627
>>76490111
1000%, cant take ourselves so seriously where we cant find the humour in it

i wont give up. i want it too badly to give up. i must fight harder.

>>76493202
Unless you're desperately ill, you're making excuses. Go for a run right this second, or hold you peace.

WAGMI

>>76492658
I am literally running my own startup and published papers on applying new methodologies to quantify the performance of high end tech. I am literally the one of the first people to do this even academically.
>Yes. There is no reason not to be at this point.
>You missed the point where trying new things doesn't really work when the overall greater picture doesn't matter.
>Source: Some faggot who stays in his mom's basement 24/7 for years
Sure thing. Go read some Nietzsche or something and save your edgy angst for your fellow 14 year olds.
>So the solution is to gamble and hopefully nepo your way into a position? But I thought you said not to be a piece of shit like everyone else?
Jesus Christ you can't be this illiterate. opportunity probability is a term for applied opportunity success rate, it has nothing to do with jobs you retarded fuck. You stupid fucking ESL ape.
Trying to succeed = being a piece of shit? Lol. Lmao even. Is this some retarded NEET learned helplessness I'm too non-retarded to understand?
>>76492871
>>76493526
>wah wah wah you can't learn about the positives and negatives of something without doing it yourself or even TRY to be better
I don't have to be obese to know that being obese is bad do I? It's about trying to be better, and forcing yourself into a situation where you increase your chance of breaking out of the loser loop because the circumstances dictate that you work on it harder. Why the fuck are you faggots on a fitness board? Go back to r9k tourists

>>76494428
>I am literally the one of the first people to do this even academically.
The amount of things that are glossed over to get you to this point are insane but for simplicity sake
>a fucking journalist is telling me how to live
Let's get to the point: what is your monthly income on this startup? Bonus point for what stays in your pocket.

>Source: Some faggot who stays in his mom's basement 24/7 for years
I know I've lived more than you, partied harder, fucked more, traveled more, and arguably lifted more. If you're able to sit there and say the world isn't a shitshow ATM this is either cope or some yuppie who has been a yuppie his entire life.
>nietzsche out of nowhere
Something on your mind, bud?

>opportunity probability is a term for applied opportunity success rate
So again, you are flinging shit to the wall to see what sticks and essentially gambling. Hoping that eventually you'll find something you can enjoy doing but you miss the point entirely that even if you do something you enjoy, like lifting, it doesn't matter when the society we live in is absolute shit now. Example:
>man i really like tech and would like to study it
>how much are student loans? how many h1bs are they trying to import? What do you mean a layoff in tech can be the end of your career?

>forcing yourself into a situation where you increase your chance of breaking out of the loser loop
Cool. Now give us actual, practical examples on how others have done this instead of retarded shit like backpacking or travel. It's like telling some obese scooter riding blob he needs to to run marathons to get in shape. Like telling a guy he needs to dress in a suit and bring flowers on the first date: it's over the top, unpractical, and does more harm than good.

Your "advice" doesn't solve the overall depression anons experience where they can have everything and do everything and yet still wanna blow their heads off. Now give me some more basic bitch advice, yuppie.

>>76493202
No matter how much shit you have you can still lose the fat atleast by just eating less, cant you? Do you really have so much shit that you dont have a few minutes to atleast rep out some pushups or do any kind of exercise to help? You have time to post on fit

>>76492451
That’s a good strategy. I read the Kaplan books in 5 months and then used the last month for review. You have plenty of time, but create a schedule and stick to it.

Your friend sounds scummy, you’re justified in cutting her off. I hope your next friend group is better

Anyone here have experience coming back from an injury? Had a type 2 strain in my spinal erector in April. Was basically bedridden for a month. Shit hurt so bad eating was a struggle. Getting back to training my consistency has been abysmal. It's like the auto pilot habit of working out was lost. After having done it for so many years I can't remember how I drilled it in to begin with.

>>76489911
Congrats anon, must be a great feeling!

>>76491636
Traveling fucking sucks unless you have a goal. I went to spring training last year and watched five games in five days. Another trip I went to a dozen distilleries in Kentucky. Doing anything else is gay.

>>76490567
What do you want, pity? You've done nothing and recieved nothing in turn. Change that or kill yourself, just stop shitting up the board.

>>76492493
Try getting a massage
I don't know if it'll help the knee but it definitely helped my shoulder pain

>>76494816
Thanks Fren.

>>76492461
Everyone starts somewhere. Don’t worry about what others will think of you or how you look. Just focus on getting better and improving your form. We can all relate to feeling awkward at first

>>76490567
>You don't go THIRTY THREE YEARS doing absolutely nothing to improve or live your life then suddenly recover when you're completely barren of any skills, and life experience, any confidence, any self-esteem, and do nothing but fixate and ruminate on how I've wasted my entire life.
As someone who was, and probably, partially still is in your situation, just a year older - it gets better. It gets better the moment you stop feeling bad for yourself and start acting. By killing yourself you deprive the world of you and let me tell you, the world, the people inhabiting it need you, you just don't know it. You're depriving yourself of all the wonderful things you still can experience if you just stop being afraid of life and failure. You still can find a girl, friends, a better job, have a fuckton of life experiences you missed on earlier. You just have to start trying. If i can manage to come to life, so can you. It's hard, it really is, but it's possible.

I'm crying for you, twin, and i don't care how gay it sounds, because i was in the same dark place, but we can't just raise our hands and give up, the God has a special plan for us, we just don't know it yet.

How do I change my spirit to being closer to indomitable? I really can't stop thinking about quitting and just curling up into a ball and letting nature take its course.

This has been one of the best years of my life
>27
>Laid off jan from my tech job
>Get severance for 5 years, 5 months worth of salary find a new job
>Find a job 2x my old salary within two months, didn't even apply, recruiter reached out
>Started year near my heaviest (210lb at 5'10)
>Now 175lb
>Going to the gym 5 days a week (plan to cut down to 4/wk to improve rest once I'm done cutting)
>Eating 140g of protein every day
>Walked 15k steps/day avg in July, with some 30k days
>Keeping up with irl friends in other cities, video call every week and one friend moved back so we're hanging out in person once every other week
>Started invisible orthodontics, won't be done til next year, but it will be a big upgrade to my looks.
>Have been inconsistent with drawing, but have done some of my best ever work this year nonetheless. Drawing every day for the past 3 weeks
>Got commendation from the CEO for performance at new job
>Feel genuine love and joy every morning.
So much work to do, but I'm ready for it.

>>76492917
Being a dad should be your number one priority, that’s why more important than gains. I’d trade all of mine away for a child. Besides you can always get them back in a couple of years

>>76495594
anon, just curious, what was your situation like, and whats it like now? you mention you were and probably still are like me, a year older. what did you do to seemingly improve it somewhat?

the hardest thing for me is i know that, even though i have a shit ton of things i have to fix, they arent exactly that difficult to do in theory. getting a better job or taking classes to get a better job. finding an apartment instead of parents. buying a shitty car and taking driving lessons again but having a car to drive in this time. talking to people to try to make friends or date girls (even though i think this is a lost cause being in my 30s and how bad dating apparently is nowadays even for normal people). in theory these things all seem attainable. but for me, all i do is ruminate and think about my wasted life. it all just comes down to whats the point? i feel nothing but shame and humiliation for what i have done to myself. its all i think about. i go outside and see how most people are with friends or family and get miserable that im out there alone. i read stuff about the good jobs people have or just seeing people dressed well and know theyre going to good jobs, and feel despondent. i hear peoples stories about living like actual adults and just feel even more inhuman for not experiecing any of it. it just seems so pointless and hopeless.

>>76495939
NTA but it sounds like you don't have dozens of problems, but a single problem.
Rationality does not work for your situation, you're not an idiot, but you use your reason against yourself. You have endless rationalizations for your behavior and choices, and your ruminations follow something that resembles a logical path where one statement cascades into the next. And indeed if we apply induction to your situation, your past failures indicate you will just fail and fail until you kill yourself (or fail at that too and end up drooling on your family members for decades with half your face blown off)
Any anon could stand here and give you reasons to try, reasons to do well, and give you excellent actionable advice, and your silly ass would rationalize all of it away.
Obviously reason will not work.
So you need to tap into something pre-rational in you. The sort of forces that are immune to being rationalized away because they are visceral, felt rather than known.
You've got only a few options there
>hate
>love
>faith
Hate is a tricky one, you can like that anon said, become racist and just get powered by your hatred of jews or whatever. Some people have made it work, but most chudcels are not much better off than you. Channeling your drive to destroy something into a drive to build yourself does not often work and you end up in a cycle of self destruction.
Love is the best, but especially tricky when it is romantic and sexual love, which is much more fickle than filial, fraternal, national, humanitarian loves. The truth is that all of these pre-rational drives can become sources of destruction in you, but they're also your ONLY way out.
Faith isn't easy, but it is the most powerful one. Doesn't have to be Faith in our buddy Yaweh, but it does have to be in something greater than yourself (even if only your higher self).
Shut off your reason, and start feeling something so overpowering you have no room to self-recriminate and rationalize your lowly behavior.

>>76495939
Well last year i was stuck. Shitty job with an insanely toxic workplace, virgin, porn addict, very heavily overweight, still living with my parents (and they're mentally ill, honestly), having constant panic attacks and insane amounts of anxiety, suicidal depression and all this while having zero fucking idea what to do because every single day was torture and i was stuck inside myself. One day i just woke up knowing that i can't continue living like this and i had to do something. So i started small - i found a new hobby instead of wasting time with videogames. In my case it was scale modeling. When you see fruits of your labor, your brain just changes, man, it's magical. Then i started exercising, gone on diet, started losing weight and getting fit. Then i went to different places until i found somewhere i felt i belonged. Then i started being more social. When i hit a plateau i started digging inside myself and found out that i have complex fucking trauma which fucked up my entire life and dealing with it will probably take me a lifetime, but i'm managing it.

Right now, my porn addiction is gone. I look great. I moved out. I enjoy being myself and so people enjoy talking to me. My anxiety is mostly gone. I'm just a bit depressed instead of "holy fuck i can't take it anymore i want to find a sharp object and stab my throat until i bleed out" anymore. Found a better job where at the very least i get a bigger paycheck and way more respect from peers/higherups. I found friends and acquaintances in different places i went. Just last week i went to a festival and talked to dozens of people and even found a potential girlfriend - we're at the talking stage for now, i was absolutely shocked to realise that she likes me, actual ME, and not my shameful inner perception of myself, and not my trauma "oh woe is me i'm so mentally ill haha no one will love me" persona, and she doesn't care how old i am.

Run out of character limit, so i have to write another post

>>76496119
>>76495939
First of all, you probably have complex trauma as well. It fucked your life. It completely warped your perception of reality, but your perception is not the actual reality. It will always be with you. But you can handle it, you already endured more than most - just fucking imagine, if a normalfag swapped places with you for a single day, it would break them. But you're still walking, you're still here seeking answers on what to do. You probably never had to ask for help due to some kinda of hyper independence, thinking you can handle it alone, and honestly, no one can. Honestly, even if you can't find some kind of a support for yourself irl, people in mental health threads on /fit/ can help you, i had my share of support during my darkest moments. You managed to survive for 33 years, now you can actually live your life if you just start moving.

Second, and this is the most important part - you have to let your past go, man. Just forgive youself. The younger "you" couldn't do better with the information and tools he had, unlike you right now, give him a break. And whatever happened, it wasn't really your fault. If it makes you feel better, you're awake, you understand the situation, some people never do, they just rot away without a single care in a world. Well, you s

And a third important thing - the world is full of possibilities as long as you have courage to give it a chance. Don't be afraid to do stuff because you have low self esteem, because you're afraid of something or whatever else. Just become retarded. Just imagine yourself retarded. If you want to do X, do X, and let it happen before your thoughts spiral you into the B-BUT WHAT IF I DO X AND THEN Y HAPPENS AND IT'S BAD. Train yourself to do the things you don't like or don't want to do, cold showers, completely exhausting workouts, etc. Combat sports do wonders if you're willing to give them a try.

I dunno maybe i wrote a lot of bullshit but it has worked wonders for me.

>>76496183
>Well, you s
Oh and i don't remember what i was supposed to write here, ignore it

>>76489746
>>76490718
Update: talked to my local Union. Seems like I need to talk to the previous 2 companies I worked for to get verifiable hours in order to apply. 1 company ought to be easy enough but I am fully expecting the other to tell me to get fucked and/or curse me out.
>inb4 my w-2s
Don't have em. Either way, if this works out, I think I'll be able to make it.

>>76492952
It’s good that you’ve gained some perspective. If you really hate being an incel, lie your standards. You’re not a total victim

>>76489601 (OP)
>Cut going well
>Getting stronger
>Getting more sun
>Got into HIIT for heart gainz
>Making new professional connections
>Might finish bachelor's degree finally
Only thing that's niggling me is that the state has been on my ass after my layoff. It's a crime nogs and illegals can get tens of thousands in gov benefits a year and I'm getting nitpicked about why an ex-tech worker can't get a job in the current economy after paying into the system for almost a decade. If I can get my personal business sorted out and going, I'm not going back to the cubicle slave farms again.

>>76489746
>supposedly the most in demand desperately in need field has absurd requirements and isn’t actually hiring anyone
Guess what I found out today? Sites like indeed notify the employer if the applicant has a certain number of applications and won’t even push them to the next step. These sites literally blacklist you. I’ve been trying to get helper jobs and it’s
>requires 2-3 years experience as a licensed electrician
Usually it will also require trade school completed. Every faggot says “just get a helper job and work your way up to apprentice” or “and then have them pay for trade school” but that doesn’t seem like a thing that exists anymore
>>76496230
I started looking at my local too and guess what? Their classes/program just started. Welding will accept if they need people but welding barely pays. I’d like to learn welding but I’d rather do electrical/hvac because money

>>76496656
>if the applicant has a certain number of applications
What? So if I send 100 applications per weekvIndeed will just refuse to send my 101st through and I don't get to apply any more? Like what is the cool down time? Either way, more proof job boards are fucking dead and applying on a company website is better

>>76496671
I don’t have anymore info but yeah I have the same questions. Like what’s even the point? Just to keep us on the site to collect and sell our data as it updates, have a reason to push sponsored postings? Should I make a new account and reformat my resumes? Would that even help or would AI be like “this nigga similar to dis nigga with these 2000 applications lmaooooo.”
It sounds incredibly retarded if this is true.
>cooldown
I don’t think there IS one
>more proof
Dude AI is what killed it. All this shit. AI has been proven to deny perfect and ideal candidates. We have nerds using all the popular AI to make their resume hit all the keywords just so they can compete with the thousands of other people in the same position. In my experience as of like 2020 the only people hiring are small businesses who haven’t integrated AI and actually sift through their applications. Which is can be great opportunities until you realize the main two cons are that often entails lower pay and the fact that it may take several hundred applications just to maybe get one of those small businesses and even then it may not work out or even make it to interview. Entire thing is broken. Everything is fucking broken. Oh yeah but I guess since I’m not in some 3rd world shithole missing an arm I should be happy right? Or whatever the very same people who didn’t have to experience this bullshit and got to live in the best possible time in this country say.

>>76496761
Don't forget having to go through the HR cunts after as well. I had a phone interview where somehow I slipped past the AI for an estimator position and the dumb bitch didn't even bother looking at my resume to tell me it was industrial instead of residential work. Worse yet, getting asked a fucking retard, data mining question right off the bat such as, "Where did you apply for this job?" Like, you dumb cunt. Could you make it any more obvious you have wasted my time. I hung up on her right after that.

As for AI, it's a future I genuinely want to happen especially on a scale of something like The Venus Project but at the moment it isn't even remotely close to being useful beyond basic level math and coding. You can't even get the fucking thing to make a spreadsheet about a meal plan properly. Yet every company wants to use it because CONSUME NEW PRODUCT. It's like if every company in the world had shifted over to the Internet in the 90s: it's a fucking mess that needs at least 5 more years before it becomes viable. Yet retard Gen X managers do layoffs thinking 5 senior positions will magically do the work of what was a team of 50 people with AI. I've seen it happen way too many times now. If they can't, then it gets outsourced to jeets.

just cope until death bro!

>>76493457
Those are all admirable goals, fren. Good luck!

27yo anon here, my childhood and early 20s were pretty much wasted while being a NEET, been lifting for almost 3 years now with a good fizeek and I feel like my life is 10x better than it was 10 years ago.

Still no gf and I've got a couple gym friends, had a few jobs but sucks being unemployed right now, was able to save a good chunk of money, I refuse to give up thou, my will of making it is too strong and I'll just keep fighting, I'm sure life can't be as bad as it was back when I was a depressed skinnyfat NEET with crippling anxiety. Wagmi.

>>76497254
Plasma can net you a small little extra if you qualify. Also won't affect workouts much outside of hydration before/after, since fluid is jsut pulled from you while your blood is returned at the end.

>>76490567
>>76495594
>>76495939
>>76496048
>>76496119
>>76496183

I was like this until 35 and I'm 39 now, it can get better, but it can also get much worse. Tame your expectations, most things will never feel nearly as good as you hoped, or even if you didn't think of it, a lot of shit is a real fucking let-down. Hookups can be fun, but if you're trying to re-live some fantasy version of what you think your 20s will be like, it'll suck. It'll also suck if you're using it as some form of validation - trust me, those fat sluts with triple digit body counts do not feel good about themselves in any way, shape, or form.

Having a shit GF is significantly worse than being single, or a virgin. You won't listen to this advice, and I understand, because you aren't ready to accept it yet.

My situation is still fucked because my mom has been dying for a decade and we're looking at the actual end this year. I went back to school, hated every minute of it, had multiple breakdowns, got finally got a proper diagnosis after over two decades. In that time I've moved 8 times, had two gfs, one of which said that she tried to baby trap me several times and was shocked when I got pissed off. I've learned to drive on my own, got a decent job, advanced to a director position, quit job, mental breakdown again, landed a tech role that somehow aligned with the weird autist skills I managed to pick up over the years, dealt with tons of mechanical issues, verbally threatened dealership staff to get a part and labor covered, etc.

At this point I will be happy to be alone, with my retarded job and my retarded dog. Friends can be great, but I'm happy with the few I have. I do not and likely will never date again, and I have literally no reason to. I'm a good looking dude and I managed to slay when I was a neet with no car, I can do it again, and still do. I genuinely wish you bros the best, because it can get better. I just hope it's what you want it to be.

>>76497290
I wonder if my country pays for plasma donation, will look into it

>>76493936
Keep pushing forward, Heaven is within your grasp! Even if you fall, you can always stand up and try again

>>76497604
Usually they should because the stuff is more special than regular blood and an actual pump machine is needed to draw the plasma instead of just pooling your blood into the little hospital bags.

>>76496048
i think what youre saying about rationalization is right. ive always just been a loser failure so i guess its sort of expected that i would expect the worst and not have the confidence and self esteem to believe in myself that i can succeed at anything. its just so hard to have any faith and belief in myself with this pathetic life that i've lived
>>76496119
>>76496183
>>76497352
thank you for such a long and detailed story. i think along with my endless rumination about the past, i also have the thoughts that you're mentioning here. that things might not necessarily get better even if i do improve. thats what i honestly believe my future is going to be if i dont kill myself. i dont see anything ever geting that much better for me, even if i put in the work. i know that at this point i would likely only get bottom barrel women, and i deserve them becaue im bottom barrel myself. if i managed to get a good job, theres not even anything that i want at this point, i dont care about financial future, or buying a home, or supporting a family. so life is just projecting to be very lonely and meaningless until i die

at least you managed to get good jobs and advance in them, get some sort of tech role as well. that shows you at least have some skills and people skills

>>76497709
You're catastrophizing while being stuck in a negative feedback loop of self hate. You are what you feed your own mind which is why you need to stop this shit, it already ruined your life.
> i dont see anything ever geting that much better for me, even if i put in the work.
How do you know this? You can see the future? Do you have a direct contact with God?

>>76490567
Your parents failed you.

I'm starting to think that by spending effort I can generate positive changes in my life...

>>76494395
WAGMI

>a nice guy was nice to me tonight
Good feels.
WAGMI

>>76489601 (OP)
>suffering build character
>learn about learned helplessness
So I realized suffering only builds character if you either heal or overcome the suffering or you out of pure spite if for no other reason embrace it and continue pushing anyways even if there’s no end to it. I guess that’s Sisyphus or some absurdism shit. But mostly if the suffering isn’t a temporary thing then it just crushes the soul. There’s boohoo suffering, like having to do some short term manual labor that will be done by the end of the day, and then there’s long term like a chronic injury illness or being stuck in the current state of the world ($180k homes costing millions, all women being whores, etc)
I feel like people who say “suffering builds character” are only saying it because that’s what someone said to them when they had to shovel snow one year as a teenager, and they don’t realize they’re regurgitating it in a non applicable circumstance to someone experiencing shit they never have or ever will.

>>76497001
Dude tell me about it. Had the realization yesterday after these posts. Okay, a 9-5 is fucking gay. I KNOW I can’t do it off the rest of my life. I’ve never held the same job past 5 years. I get bored too fast, I get fed up, I’m too unwilling to tolerate disrespect from coworkers and management, I’m not okay with being shit on and told to say thank you for it (have had raises withheld because I was 5 minutes late to a shift I was covering when the nepocunt noshowed who got my raise as extra).
Starting a business or learning to make money online while it sounds great doesn’t seem like something I could achieve fast. BUT I don’t have to achieve it fast, I just need to be able to stick out a 9-5 for like 10 years and I know if I grind at getting an online store social media YouTube whatever the fuck it is (or all of the above) I can get it earning me a net profit of like $70k. Just a decade and I can be in a position to quit a 9-5 and escape that day race bullshit, have an income where I can be comfortable. Still would be doing work but at least it would be on my own time and the efforts would directly translate to my own income.
That’s my goal. Okay, fine it ain’t gonna happen in 2 years. But I KNOW if I push and grind absolute dick at it for a decade I could have it earning me enough to survive

>>76489601 (OP)
Gave an old friend I cut off a final chance. He lashed out at me like he used to because he couldn’t handle banter and also at the same time backstabbed me, proved to be two faced.
I’m thinking about turning his BPD ex who he still loves into my blowjob machine. That was a thing I’d have never considered even when I had cut him off, but I can see he wouldn’t hold that sort of moral towards me no matter the circumstances. She’s okay looking, not really the type I would go for but would make an okay blowjob hoe I guess. She’s tried to DM me multiple times since she left him and I always ignored out of basic moral.

FUCK DEMORALIZERS WAGMI

>>76498926
Your life will be much happier and less chaotic if you just cut them all off man. Best revenge is for you to just live your best life while he runs around pissing people off.

>>76495857
Congrats bro! You’re really blooming and will only reach greater heights over the next 4 months! Do you have any advice on learning how to draw?

I'm at my second job right now. The one I actually like the most and I studied for, but it's only once a week. Still glad to be here and it's some extra bucks to my budget.
Situation at home is a bit tense with my fiancee. Shouldn't be the end of things but we're really not working things out and I have no idea how to get through it. I'm probably going to escalate the hostilities since she's the one being a cunt and I won't yield.
Other than that, fitness is on point and lifts increasing steadily. Going to the gym has become my favorite part of the day.

>>76497709
>its just so hard to have any faith and belief in myself with this pathetic life that i've lived
Stupid, if faith in yourself required evidence of a life well lived it wouldn't be faith. Faith is when you believe despite the absence of evidence (or even despite evidence to the contrary).
It's an absurdity you choose, and you can choose it. You just need to jump.

>>76499084
thanks anon, I will keep putting in the work
the best thing you can do to learn to draw is to draw from life, draw your coffee cup and house plants, draw your cat and your couch cushions, draw the bell peppers you buy in the grocery store. It'll teach you a lot and you'll start seeing beauty everywhere
also copy stuff from your favorite artists a bunch
good luck anon

>>76498932
ONE MUST IMAGINE SISYPHUS HAPPY

>>76489746
>>76490718
>>76496230
Update: went to the previous 2 companies and asked for the hours. I am told by 1 I should expect documentation by the end of the week and the other by the end of today. Both of which I talked to were women so I am incredibly anxious to see if they will actually do what they said they would. You can't even trust whores to do the basics any more.

>>76496595
You’re making good progress, don’t let insignificant subjects outside of your control drag you down. Eventually you’ll escape if you work hard

Stay strong anons :)

>>76489601 (OP)
I no longer chase women, because i finally realized that the only one forcing me to do that is me. I noticed way too late that i just wanted to prove myself that i can be loved and that i am able to sexually satisfy a woman and now i have my confirmation. This Latina Succubus i met last week fucked me so hard that i literally got a factory reset. I lost myself because i was so obsessed with this but now for the first time in a long time i feel free. I just want to live my life how i please now, shoot the shit with my bros, spent time on my hobbies and finally become a responsible adult. I want to become better, only for myself and no one else

semen

>>76498703
So you’re realized it. Now start improving, even if it’s just small steps

Have been going to a hairdresser a few times now instead of just isolating myself at home cutting my own hair making it look like shit. I am happy with the cut I get but my god I am so retarded when I have to make small talk I almost don't wanna go back because I feel like they think I am a literal retarded freak.

>>76498860
People can sense the person you’re becoming :) WAGMI

>>76490789
Sorry bro. My wife had a miscarriage in October. Its the worst. Was so depressed for an entire month I hardly left my bed.

I'll pray for you two tonight.

>>76489601 (OP)
My sleep quality feels completely random
Some days I wake up feeling satisfied and rested
others days, sleeping at the same time in the same way I get stress-nightmares and wake up feeling like fucking shit

>>76498895
We are all products of our own respective trauma. However how we can choose to incorporate that pain defines how we live

I ended things before they began with a girl today bros. She was cute and we hung out a couple times but she had a FWB all along who she "broke things off with" to "give me a chance". But said if we weren't physically compatible she'd just go back to him.
I got disgusted with her and, get this, she was surprised and hurt when I called her to say we shouldn't see each other anymore.

Women have lost their fucking minds nowadays.
I thought I might've finally found someone worthwhile and she hits me with that. She even said sex with him is incredible and he lasts extremely long, up to an hour apparently.

I never want to feel what I felt during that conversation ever again.

>>76505189
all women seem to be kuso-bitchsluts nowadays
you have no idea how many times I've tried dating a girl and she tries to spin it as
>we should just be fwb ;p
>we're fun ;D
>don't be so srs :^))
Like I'm not good enough to be called a boyfriend, but she's fine treating me like some dildo.

Don't feel anything about it, man.
You dodged a bullet and you're probably too good for that stupid bimbo.

>>76489601 (OP)
>Monday’s Indomitable Spirit
Are stupid threads like this why the gym is flooded with tourists on Monday after work?

>>76505215
>she's fine treating me like some dildo
she tried phrasing it as she was just using him for his body, but wanted to use my body AND mind. like what the fuck?

>Don't feel anything about it, man
I've been single for so long and got really hopeful that my solitude was coming to an end.

I'm starting to think that most of the chicks on the dating apps are the leftovers (not to be too disparaging). Every second one I meet up with has PCOS or severe ADHD or BPD or is just generally odd in a way that seems dysfunctional. And these are girls with totally normal profiles, for the most part, and great pictures. It's a little bewildering, honestly. I don't hold it against them, but it certainly makes anything long-term seem like a challenging prospect. I think I'll just go back to approaching women in public, so long as it seems sensible for the time/place. 'Cause Hinge and shit are clearly broken, unless you're in the top X%. Strange times. The good news: I'm in the best shape I've been in in years.

>>76505189
>>76505215
>>76505218
To play devil's advocate: women have essentially taken the red pill philosophy of the past 10-15 years and are now trying to apply it themselves. Only problem, as per anything a woman tries to do, they lack the skills of a man. I remember 10 years ago if you asked a woman "What are you looking for on here?" on a dating app and it was a guaranteed way to get ghosted. You had to get creative to figure out where she stood or at the very least had a conversation that last several days

Now women just openly ask it after like 4 sentences. No intelligence, no subtly, no charm, just spearheading it because they can. But like men who experienced the red pill, women too will eventually be where men are today with a female loneliness epidemic. The amount of tatted roastie whore that are going to be alone is going to be hilarious. Give it time.

I turned 30 this year, and now I really want to date a girl inappropriately younger than me. 18 preferably, I have nothing but the best intentions, I've just decided I want to have a lot of children. I went on r/agegaprelationship and it looks pretty grim.
Anyway, I think I'm addicted to opioids. I had a bunch because of surgery and now I'm craving more.

>>76506157
Same, just turned 30 and have the same urge. Pure intentions as well. Younger women are just happier and more energetic than women around our age who seemingly hate men. Never wanted to make a woman a house wife but younger girls actually make me want to work hard and make them a SAHM. What's reddit even have to say about it? I assume they're sick fuck posting.

>>76506212
Didn't look at the comments, just some pictures looked pretty grim.
But you're right, my kids deserve a fun-loving energetic mother. And also, I mean, I want to put like 20 kids in her, and that's just not viable past maybe 25.

>>76505287
it's gotten to the point that i now realize, even if a woman is about as good as it gets on paper (for reference, my ex is a tall pretty russian with two masters degrees, promising career in international governance/ngos, very smart, very extroverted, very conscientious and fun loving and open to experience, fit, worldly, good at many things, loving and supportive and thoughtful when she is at her best), the fact that she liked me at all is enough of a red flag to disengage. because even this woman turned out to be a gaslighting, borderline cheating, lying, cruel, insecure, cluster b adjacent mess on the inside, and i believe that were it not for this fact, she never would have looked my way. so at some point i just gotta give up on other people and torture myself into the correct shape, mentally and physically, for partners who are not completely fucked

>>76506238
Checked out the reddit. They do look grim but that's just the average redditor. Assuming you take care of yourself it's kind of a white pill seeing how some of these guys can get with younger women.

>>76506289
That's a good point, actually.
WAGMI

>>76499162
You need to learn how to figure things out with your fiance or you’re just setting yourself up for failure. Why can’t you two get along?

Why the fuck thí place typing that much?
Can you guy just greentext?
I can't read that all

>>76499339
You’re really talented. I’ll try following your advice on drawing what I see daily

>>76506245
I feel you. Whenever I land a really hot girl, I always end up wondering why she's dating down in terms of attractiveness. And then, like you found out, it's for similar reasons. It's a shame, though, 'cause once you've been with someone like that, it's quite hard to go back to your "league," so to speak. Still, in the end, it's better to be with someone who respects you and builds you up than it is to be with someone wildly hot but unpredictable. I'm tired of rollercoaster situationships. This era of dating is nothing but them, it seems.

My knee injury is acting up. New kind of pain but same area. More of a sharp pain. Idk what happened. Was going to my car, one flight of stairs and a 20 second walk, and midway to my car from the stairs I felt this twinge of pain. I can put all my weight on it have full ROM but it hasn’t bothered me in a year now. Idk what happened. I imagine the meniscus is out of place but I can’t pop it back in. Fully extending the leg is what seems to bother it, so I imagine that means the cartilage tear got worse suddenly. Idk. I can climb the stairs no problem, I can walk and so on. But just the feeling scares me a lot. They already removed 50% of the meniscus I already have bone on bone and through cautiously applying forces I’ve made all the pain and issues go away. Knees over toes guys stuff helped a ton. So a new type of pain and a sudden pain out of seemingly no where has me terrified. I know I may have a knee replacement some day but I’d like to prolong that.


I’m going to ice ibuprofen and towel behind knee while kneeling which is my emergency remedy. It would suck to have a new injury. Honestly I don’t get the cadaver implant thing. My surgeon said it’s no good has a high fail rate and when I look it up I see a ton of articles saying it has a high success rate and individual peoples experiences with it being successful. I vaguely recall reading one guys account where it failed so he got it done again and it was successful and then like a year later he did a marathon on it with no issue. Why the fuck can’t I get that?
>just realized
My surgeon was a moron. He was the guy who many pro athletes go to. His logic is based around what they do, those dudes will destroy an ACL and tear a meniscus and go back to training within weeks. No fucking shit he sees a high fail rate those niggas don’t care if they can’t walk normal at the age of 60. I just wanna to walk, run 3-5 miles once a week, do squats once a week and some rack pulls here and there.

>>76507494
Instead this faggot left me with bone on bone because that somehow helps avoid a knee replacement. Wow did I get KIKED? Did I get fucking greedy dirty shekel hungry JEWED? Did this gas huffing retard kikeroach fuck me up on purpose thinking I’d be a future investment for profiting off an inevitable knee surgery? Just to clarify because it may not be clear, I am asking if this disgusting beak nosed German target dummy Christ killing Jewish scumbag intentionally chose the worse option which would certainly require a future knee replacement on purpose or not and I am absolutely hating on him for being a kike.


Oh and I’m also worried because this may mean I can’t do my job which has me on my feet all day with a ton of bending and kneeling.

>>76507494
Okay I think I popped it back into place. Must have just been pinched in a new way. Still pissed this is even an issue when I keep learning it could have been totally fixed years ago every time I study it

>take the travel meme
>go abroad and actually have a great time sightseeing
>didn't speak to a single women
>fly back home
>existential dread sets in
Life without a gf or wife is literally pointless living and there's no way you can convince me otherwise.
Since I took some photos of myself in cool places I'm signing up for bumble and see if that actually gets me any matches.

>>76507622
Dude I don’t even know what the point of it is anymore.
>do what 90% of normies do and lower standards date some girl I’m not particularly attracted to who I don’t particularly like just to the sake of not being alone live a facade and have to work to maintain that just to keep some probably overweight bitchy twat around in my life knowing I’d be happier alone just so I can avoid the occasional nights where I feel lonely or have someone to go on trips with
Like what’s even the fucking point? I’m not saying you’re wrong, obviously the idea is find a chick we actually want. But they seem so far and few. My last GF I’m still super confused about whether she even actually liked me or not. I’m pretty sure we weren’t good together something just felt wrong about being with her, despite that I did and even still do care about her, but that’s all I got there. I just want a chick I can enjoy hanging with being boring with but also do fun shit with who I enjoy being around even when we’re not having sex. I’m super close to just going full blown ghost mode and grinding my ass off for a year to improve and see if that helps but I know from experience that just puts me in an even better position to realize I hate most women

>>76507648
I don't know what to tell you other than how miserable it feels having to do things alone or with loser mates.
I walked so much and saw so many couples and there was plenty of lovely and sweet women I'm sure are great partners that makes life much richer.

>>76507622
Why didn't you talk to a single woman?
Did you make any effort to or did you just forget?
>>76507648
>I just want a chick I can enjoy hanging with being boring with but also do fun shit with who I enjoy being around even when we’re not having sex
That's called love and companionship and anon, it's never been easy to find. Some people luck out, they meet that person in school or something, but for the rest of us it takes a search, and error.
Once you've gotten past the roadblocks (being unattractive, unsociable, poor, living with parents), you just need to persist.
If finding love were straightforward do you think we would have dedicated 70%+ or all art and literature to it and its vagaries?
I know it sounds gay anon, but you need to have faith in love.

>>76507738
>have faith in love
Dude idk how I’m supposed to. I think one thing I’d like to know, is to what extent is all that red pill vs blue pill shit true? Clearly there’s truth in it. If you have the time skip around a Casey Zander shit. His stuff is undoubtedly true when it comes to daddy issue thots. But if I were to give love a chance and start actually dating, what kind of balance do I need between that kind of mindset and a softer more genuine one? I’m just really confused at this point man.

>>76507738
>Why didn't you talk to a single woman?
Honestly I'm ugly, I have terrible teeth and hinders any and all my confidence.

>>76506212
I dated an 18-year-old recently. Shit was pretty cash for a bit. Great sexual chemistry. But it as awkward in spots 'cause she didn't wanna bring me to university parties or anything (understandable), so it felt like we weren't fully dating at times. We had a great three months. It was just clear that we were going in different directions. The reality with dating younger women in the West is that you're gonna have to wait several years for them to finish their schooling before you start a family or whatever. So your dream of having tons of kids is just that -- a dream.

>>76499392
Update: got the hours and talked to a guy I was directed towards. I am now being told to call ANOTHER guy which I will do Monday but I hope it's just paranoia telling me something is wrong. I don't like being thrown around from person to person

>>76507787
>I think one thing I’d like to know, is to what extent is all that red pill vs blue pill shit true
Why would you take my word for it either way? I don't think it's worth bothering with that sort of frame at all. It's a transitory, modern thing that seems less concerned with the endless and enduring questions of love and companionship but more concerned with the petty fickle sexual appetites of young men.
You want someone you truly love and care about, so why would you bother with a framework that has so little to say about love and care, and what it does seem to say disparages the very idea of what you truly desire? Acts with such suspicion of anyone who claims to have it?
And then you wonder why you have no faith in love?
>>76507945
So you chose not to speak to any women, but you say it like not talking to women is something that happened to you on your trip. You'd probably chosen not to speak to women before you'd even set off, hadn't you?
I understand the confidence issue, teeth are important, and dental work is expensive. But if you have travel money, you may well have teeth money. It's worth the investment.
But at any rate, anon, advice like 'travel more' has the hidden implications of all advice, you need to be confident, attractive, and actively seek interaction. Some of that is outside of your power, but what is you should be actively trying to improve.

>>76508331
Fair enough. I do have the money to get them fixed but am absolutely terrified of going to the dentist.

>>76508355
what could they do to you that is worse than what you're doing to yourself, hiding away from people because of your teeth?
many people have painful experiences with dentistry so I get it anon, but honestly I'd be more afraid of the regret I'd feel in ten, twenty years that I could have done something to help me smile confidently and didn't.

>>76508371
I hear you and you're absolutely right. All photos I take I have that chud grin because otherwise I look like trailer trash and I'm pretty sure the last girl I was with let me go because of my teeth even though she was too polite to mention it directly.

It's been a problem since young age because even when teeth were healthy I still had diastema and made me embarrassed because of it.

>>76506138
women are only as brazen as they're allowed to be by men
women will not collectively shape up their behavior until men stop being simps

>>76508101
How'd you meet? Feels like the only way to meet anyone now is through apps, especially people women. But realistically a woman that's 20 or 22 is probably the best age. Do you think it would've worked if you wanted the same thing out of life?

>>76508708
We met through the apps. I've been out with a lot of girls in the 18-22 range recently, and I'd say you're right in thinking that the 20-22-year-old ones are the ones you want. They're a bit more secure in who they are and have more to offer in conversation. I'm not sure things could have worked with the 18 y/o, 'cause we were just very different people in the end. But it was fun to talk about what kind of future we might have together. At one point, we thought it might be fun to move to a foreign country together. I'm just grateful for the experience. She was fun and quite attractive. If you wanna pick up a younger girl like that in person, though, your best bet is a university campus. The last time I was up there, they were eyeing me like crazy, and I'm pretty average-looking.

>>76508758
That figures, especially since they're so close to graduation. Was she the only 18yo you've dated? It sounds nice on paper but I think 19 is as young as I'll go because she's at least come into herself some but I've always dated women older than me. I'm actually a firefighter in a college town. The dorms and part of the campus are in my first in territory and the alarms there go off pretty often. I've for sure noticed some looks when I have to go there. Haven't used the apps in a while but I guess it's worth a shot.

>>76508867
I don't go younger than 18 (even though 17 is legal where I'm at), but she's not the only 18 y/o I've been with. Basically, as long as they're in university (you really don't wanna be that guy dating a high-schooler), it's cool. I used to be like you, though -- I was really into older women for a while. Their general calmness and self-understanding was really attractive when I was in my early twenties. And it was fun being a kept man in a few situations. But if you're a firefighter, then I'm sure you're in good shape and should be able to pull a university girl pretty easily. I'd say start with the apps and see how it goes. It's hard to succeed with the uni strat unless you've got some ostensible reason for being on campus for more than an emergency or whatever. Godspeed, man. Hope it works out.

>thought I had one assignment due tomorrow
>actually have 3
At least I got one done. Time to GPT this shiz.

>>76507492
honestly i have no clue what i want or need anymore. if i found someone just like her tomorrow i know i would take the situationship in a heartbeat, knowing damn well it's not good for me. anyway, at this point i'm just trying to increase my league and cure my own headsickness so i have suitable high quality options that are also not sick in the head

>tried dating apps twice
>both times got like zero matches even though I had decent photos and a standard bio that wasn't overly flashy

I don't get it, I've seen guys that are objectively worse than me in some metrics and have worse photos get matches with pretty cute girls meanwhile I'm practically forced to try and brute force my social anxiety to talk to women IRL to even get one date because even easy mode doesn't have the decency to work for me. We need the guys who get pussy to post some profile examples so the rest of us guys dying of thirst can try to figure something out because I don't mind having to put in effort, I just don't know what to put effort into.

>>76489601 (OP)
its saturday u jackass

>>76510167
>text friend asking for the time
>he says 3 pm
>i answer 5 hours later
>no it's not jackass

>>76510163
it's usually because your photos are worse than you think or your bio is worse than you think. bio doesn't actually account for a ton of variance in behavior on apps by the way. you need a decent bio that filters for people you will actually like talking to and great photos that will draw enough people in that your filter doesn't result in 0 matches.

>>76510163
The dating apps are dead. I say this as someone who found great success back in the day. What is on there now is completely different than what was around in 2018

>>76510182
Maybe since they are not professional or anything, just 4-5 photos of me on holiday and 1 with buddies that was pretty old (2019-ish). What made me confused is that guys I know that have similar photos (not some male model material or anything) who still get matches. And they aren't particular better off than me, one is shorter, one is in much worse shape, etc. I just don't understand it especially since I've had women interested IRL.

Currently doing my first fast ever. I feel fine so far albeit still being early in the fast. Used to eat every few hours and started gaining weight fast. It says a workout in the next few hours would be optimal, so I might go for a run or something else.

>>76509911
>Basically, as long as they're in university (you really don't wanna be that guy dating a high-schooler), it's cool.
Didn't plan on pulling a Scott Pilgrim but yeah.
>I used to be like you, though -- I was really into older women for a while. Their general calmness and self-understanding was really attractive when I was in my early twenties. And it was fun being a kept man in a few situations.
That's extremely different from my experience with older women. Usually they still expected me to "play a man's role" while they had a lot more expectations on how I should act. They were kinda pushy with getting princess treatment even though I was younger. I don't mind filling that role but they were kinda bitchy about it
>I'd say start with the apps and see how it goes. It's hard to succeed with the uni strat unless you've got some ostensible reason for being on campus for more than an emergency or whatever. Godspeed, man. Hope it works out.
Appreciate it. WAGMI

>>76510711
The only older women that are awesome to date/bang are nymphos for 4 reasons.
>they are often really hot and look extremely good for their age like women in their 30s looking like they are in their early-to-mid 20s or ladies in their 40s looking like absolutely prime fuck material
>they usually know how to have awesome sex and can teach you
>they are usually fully aware that they aren't wife material and aren't trying to be and are happy to enjoy casual sex
>they are used to guys being clumsy and won't be bothered if a man isn't a smooth chad
It's like all the benefits of an older woman rolled in with some of the benefits of a younger one. Problem is that they are usually also quite in demand. Younger women, keep your expectations in check. The times I dated younger girls (18-23) it was with the understanding that this is just for fun and can end on a whim. Not that I particularly cared since being an 18 year old's 32 year old fuckbuddy is still pretty sweet. And finally, treat them well. It seems like an obvious thing to say but in my observation a lot of age gap flirtations end badly because the older guy doesn't care too much about the younger girl's concerns. Not out of a particularly malicious intent but just being an unintentionally inconsiderate dick who forces expectations on her. Give her a hug after banging her, share a pizza, play some video games, etc.

>>76510798
People who do that take younger women for granted. They're usually super down to hang out or just chill. From my experience they're pretty low maintenance compared to older women. It cost nothing to cuddle like you said and just giving her flowers or small gifts would be more than enough.