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Anonymous No.76610057 [Report] >>76610079 >>76610085 >>76610175 >>76610205 >>76610948
If only there were some way to simply and effectively train legs doing calisthenics....
Anonymous No.76610079 [Report] >>76610090 >>76610333
>>76610057 (OP)
>Effectively
Lol, lmao.
Anonymous No.76610085 [Report] >>76610090
>>76610057 (OP)
>calisthenics
>does a variation of squats
lmao
Anonymous No.76610090 [Report] >>76610094 >>76610292 >>76610913
>>76610079
Box squats require greater strength because the stretch reflex is removed aka no "rebound in the hole" and 99% of fit weighs enough for pistol box squat to = 3 plate squat minimum there's no point doing more beyond ego lifting
>>76610085
yes that is calisthenics and ?
Anonymous No.76610094 [Report] >>76610117 >>76610466
>>76610090
Dang, I didnt know my 320lbs squat was calisthenics. How much do you calisthenics squat?
Anonymous No.76610117 [Report] >>76610122
>>76610094
multiply bw by .95 then double it. that's how much you're squatting pistol box style. so if you weigh 200lbs = 380lbs
Anonymous No.76610122 [Report] >>76610131
>>76610117
Oh really? I weight 195lbs and only do 185lb split squats for reps. Your math is pretty off. How much do you do calisthenics split squats?
Anonymous No.76610131 [Report] >>76610145
>>76610122
split squats are not pistol squats the back leg reduces the load considerably. my pistol box squat is 3 plates or more compared to the barbell back squat.
Anonymous No.76610145 [Report] >>76610146
>>76610131
But whats your calisthenics split squats? Also what is your calisthenics squats? What is your calisthenics deadlift? And finally what is your calisthenics bw?
Anonymous No.76610146 [Report] >>76610164
>>76610145
Is there some reason you keep trying to dodge what I already stated? Couldn't be any simpler. You want to make it sound confusing because you're a retarded loser
Anonymous No.76610152 [Report] >>76610158 >>76610186 >>76610196
Why do calisthenicsfags still exist?

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/X8xPbZywoFI
Anonymous No.76610158 [Report] >>76610165 >>76610167
>>76610152
plyometrics increase vertical leap as well as anything. drop training, box, jumps, etc. combine with pistols. tell me how much michael jordan and lebron james (both have over 40 inch vert) barbell back squat. i need a good laugh
Anonymous No.76610164 [Report]
>>76610146
Why dont you want to answer my questions about calisthenics? You said squats were calisthenics and I was telling you my calisthenics lifts stats. But you keep talking about calisthenics pistol squats instead
Anonymous No.76610165 [Report]
>>76610158
The video I posted is the guy with the highest vert in the world so shut your mouth
Anonymous No.76610167 [Report] >>76610168
>>76610158
>tell me how much basketball players lift weights
>tell me how much pullups basketball players do
>tell me how much basketball players do calisthenics instead of practicing basketball
Anonymous No.76610168 [Report] >>76610173 >>76610177
>>76610167
yeah see here's the part where i didnt bring up some douchebag to prove a point and fail. there's no reason to. the subject matter is calisthenics leg training and it's a solved problem.

nordic curls, pistol box squats are more than effective to train legs completely ZERO extra weights needed
Anonymous No.76610173 [Report] >>76610181
>>76610168
more than effective to get mid results you mean lmao
Anonymous No.76610175 [Report]
>>76610057 (OP)
there's a general for this: >>76584473
Anonymous No.76610177 [Report]
>>76610168
>professional athletes never do any form of resistance training
>they are all doing pushups and jumping jacks
Anonymous No.76610181 [Report] >>76610189 >>76610196
>>76610173
if by mid results you mean better results than all but the most elite gifted athletes on planet earth, sure but if thats you you're not coming here for training advice you're getting paid millions
Anonymous No.76610186 [Report]
>>76610152
Most people are lazy and mediocre.
Anonymous No.76610189 [Report] >>76610193
>>76610181
>just look at any bodybuilder, athlete, oly lifter, etc.
>they only did calisthenics
Anonymous No.76610193 [Report] >>76610200
>>76610189
yeah you're not them and they all follow wildly different routines. the only common thread is elite genetics and drug use
Anonymous No.76610196 [Report] >>76610203
>>76610181
cope. This guy got his results (again best in the world) through intense weight training over time and was absolutely not born gifted >>76610152
Anonymous No.76610200 [Report] >>76610208
>>76610193
>just look at any strong person in the gym, they only did calisthenics
>just look at any world records set, they only did calisthenics
>just look at any calisthenics world record, no one used weights
Anonymous No.76610203 [Report] >>76610207
>>76610196
>anybody can have an impressive vertical leap
I know no less than thousands of professional athletes who do heavy compounds and have big squat + power clean numbers who have a <36" vert. It'a 99% genetics. Quit trying to shill your gay vert program shlomo
Anonymous No.76610205 [Report]
>>76610057 (OP)
Whats funny is nothing is wrong with calisthenics, I do it with my weightlifting. Whats gay is how people whose whole identity is calisthenics tries to claim how much better it is.
Anonymous No.76610207 [Report] >>76610215
>>76610203
Cope. You only want to do body weight stuff because you are too scared to get into anything real.
Anonymous No.76610208 [Report] >>76610213 >>76610258
>>76610200
>just look at people who get wildly better results from people following the same routine
you dont have an argument. you're not them. you never will be. you're free to continue ruining your body doing absolute bullshit tho
Anonymous No.76610213 [Report] >>76610219
>>76610208
You have no results, no feats, no anything. Just feels.
Anonymous No.76610215 [Report] >>76610220
>>76610207
yeah that's it everyone doing calithenics has no background training already. it must be hard to invent fake situations that you can easily defeat since you made the entire argument up in your head that you already won and has nothing ti do whatsoever with the topic
Anonymous No.76610219 [Report] >>76610225
>>76610213
I have an effective calisthenics leg training exercise. You have autism
Anonymous No.76610220 [Report] >>76610228
>>76610215
Go ahead and post elite athletes or body builders or anything who got their results with just calisthenics. You brought nothing to the table. You have no evidence of anything.
Anonymous No.76610225 [Report] >>76610231
>>76610219
You have meme exercises for mid results and a cult like following of them. I'm trying to make sure some newbie reading this thread doesn't fall for it like you did.
Anonymous No.76610228 [Report] >>76610233
>>76610220
I don't care who does what as I already stated none of these folks train alike. Their only common thread is the most elite of the elite genetics and drug use. I don't look up to them I make fun of them and people like because you can't gasp these easy understand facts. You're not them and your training technique wont make you them ever
Anonymous No.76610231 [Report]
>>76610225
I bet you're a sumo pulling manlet who thinks their 1" rom totally competition legit lifts are superior to calisthenics. I will make fun of you for eternity and nothing will change that
Anonymous No.76610233 [Report] >>76610236
>>76610228
>don't use proven methods by athletes and body builders of all levels, they make me laugh
>do these meme exercises instead, trust me bro
Anonymous No.76610236 [Report] >>76610262
>>76610233
A pistol squat is an extremely effective exercise. Pointing to imaginary athletes who you don't actually know anything about proves nothing other than what we already knew that is you're a retard
Anonymous No.76610258 [Report]
>>76610208
>just look at any normal person who works out
>they only do calisthenics
Anonymous No.76610262 [Report] >>76610274
>>76610236
>there is no way any athlete out there is doing any form of resistance training, I know
>they only did calisthenics
Anonymous No.76610274 [Report] >>76610306
>>76610262
Nobody asked what athletes do nobody cares. The question is if there are effective calisthenics leg exercises the answer is yes. Everything after that fact is irrelevant. You want to lift weights cause you like it you go do that but you aren't beating calisthenics
Anonymous No.76610292 [Report] >>76610305
>>76610090

You think 99% of fit is 140 kilos? How fat do you think we are? Or if you think 1/2 of 140kg is 70kg your math is wrong because you need to add half the weight of the lifter in question.

I weigh 80kg, and do 140kg for reps, for total weight lifted of 220 kg. 1/2 of that (for one leg) should be 110kg. But I only weigh 80, so by your logic I'd still need a 30kg weight just to hit my working set.
Anonymous No.76610305 [Report] >>76610316
>>76610292
I think 99% of fit will get 3 plate bb bsquat or more out of pistol box and beyond that is ego lifting I already stated as much and you keep trying to reword these simple facts to make your stupid ass opinion seem more appealing and it's not. it makes you look retarded and it will only get worse the more you try and downplay it. most people on fit arent elite bb squatters and thats what you're describing to downplay the value of calisthenics
Anonymous No.76610306 [Report] >>76610310
>>76610274
>you aren't beating calisthenics
Yes you are
Anonymous No.76610310 [Report] >>76610328
>>76610306
not even close my guy i have barbells and a gym membership. calisthenics poops on everything
Anonymous No.76610316 [Report] >>76610319
>>76610305

So you think 3plate barbell squat is elite? Buddy that's early intermediate territory at best. Go to /plg/ and you'll be a novice. Plenty of /fit/ has a squat of 3 plate or better. Plenty of /fit/ may also not have reached that level yet, but the point still stands. For lifters who are reasonably strong, the pistol squat simply does not load enough weight to advance progression.
Anonymous No.76610319 [Report] >>76610325 >>76610467
>>76610316
>More Load on The Legs
While the total external loads used for single leg squats are typically less than in bilateral squats, the overall load on the legs is actually higher due to a phenomenon known as the bilateral deficit, which means that the sum of the forces produced by each leg is greater than the total bilateral force production. To understand this, it helps to use some calculations and real-world examples.

Once our athletes familiarize themselves with the exercise, it’s not uncommon for females to use anywhere from 20-50 pounds of external load and male athletes to use upwards of 75-110 pounds, sometimes more.

For example, one of my high school freshman hockey players recently performed six reps on each leg with 80 pounds of external load at a bodyweight of 176 pounds.

To calculate the load being placed on the working leg, we must first calculate his “super incumbent bodyweight,” which is the weight above the joint being used to lift the load, in this case, the knee.

If we estimate that the lower leg and foot weighs 12 pounds, then his superincumbent bodyweight during a single-leg squat would be 164 pounds. Add in the 80 pounds of external load and you get 244 pounds of load on the working leg.

Now let’s compare how much weight would be needed in a bilateral squat to get the same amount of load on each leg. During a back squat, the superincumbent bodyweight for this kid would be 152 pounds, so he’d need to squat 336 pounds for six reps to achieve the same overload on his legs. There’s no way in hell he could handle that weight for one rep, let alone six.
Anonymous No.76610325 [Report] >>76610467
>>76610319
I recently used 184 pounds of external load for a set of six at a bodyweight of 183 pounds. Taking into account my superincumbent bodyweight (171 pounds), that’s 355 pounds of load on the working leg.

To get the same overload on my legs during a back squat, I’d have to use 539 pounds. I doubt I could even get 539 pounds off the pins, much less squat it six times.
Anonymous No.76610328 [Report] >>76610334
>>76610310
No it doesn't
Anonymous No.76610333 [Report]
>>76610079
>slips
>literally dies
what's the end goal?
Anonymous No.76610334 [Report] >>76610343
>>76610328
you have no clue about anything and in general are suffering from severe mental retardation most likely caused by inhaling nicotine 24/7
Anonymous No.76610343 [Report]
>>76610334
no you
Anonymous No.76610415 [Report] >>76610429
why not just do picrel like a normal person
Anonymous No.76610429 [Report]
>>76610415
to remove the gay queef weight lifters rebuttal. removing the back leg support makes it comparable to an effective bb back squat
Anonymous No.76610466 [Report]
>>76610094
It's weighted calisthenics, yes. What's the difference between a weighted squat and a weighted pullup? They're both weighted versions of a calisthenics exercise
Anonymous No.76610467 [Report] >>76610481
>>76610319
>>76610325

So you DO use external loads. Why are you then pretending that calisthenics(unloaded only) is the be-all end-all? I can admit the pistol squat is a fine exercise with many benefits. Why can't you admit the barbell squat does similar?
Anonymous No.76610481 [Report]
>>76610467
no, i dont. that's from an article by ben bruno a world famous fitness trainer. i'd expect his clients that comprise the greatest athletes on planet earth to need external load.

the point of the article was to show how unilateral training loads work. single leg squat is actually harder than simply doubling the value because of the bilateral training deficit described in the article. an elite athlete adding 80lbs for six reps max doesn't mean you're going to do the same.
Anonymous No.76610507 [Report] >>76610901
Anonymous No.76610901 [Report] >>76610908 >>76610911
>>76610507
SLS are awesome :D
i do quarter-squat one legged with full internal hip rotation - keep rotating inward all the time
i find it's doing VMO and close to knee parts of quad, the only part of quad i want build up

if u go all the way down it doesn't differ from regular squat - it's garbage producing imbalanced unaesthetic lower body, like pictured roidous *** prostitute, overgrown adductors and VL, no bueno

add some heel-hooking:
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/NfwtDIscQm8

some glute max movement:
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/E5C820rPOTA
keep lower spine neutral

some walking on flat - u're golden
Anonymous No.76610908 [Report] >>76610911 >>76610919 >>76611011
>>76610901
>SLS are awesome :D
>i do quarter-squat one legged with full internal hip rotation - keep rotating inward all the time
>i find it's doing VMO and close to knee parts of quad, the only part of quad i want build up
>if u go all the way down it doesn't differ from regular squat - it's garbage producing imbalanced unaesthetic lower body, like pictured roidous *** prostitute, overgrown adductors and VL, no bueno
>add some heel-hooking:
>https://www.youtube.com/shorts/NfwtDIscQm8
>some glute max movement:
>https://www.youtube.com/shorts/E5C820rPOTA
>keep lower spine neutral
>some walking on flat - u're golden
yeah, and i do it all as isometric holds of course :D
better picture of conventinal squat disaster - clearer
Anonymous No.76610911 [Report] >>76610919
>>76610901
>>76610908
sorry i dont speak bot
Anonymous No.76610913 [Report] >>76610916
>>76610090
>Box squats require greater strength because the stretch reflex is removed aka no "rebound in the hole" and 99% of fit weighs enough for pistol box squat to = 3 plate squat minimum there's no point doing more beyond ego lifting
Yeah right. I could basically pistol squat the first time I tried it and that didn't put me anywhere near a 2 plate squat let alone 3
Anonymous No.76610916 [Report]
>>76610913
you have better leverages for pistol simple as. i could do some things untrained from day 1 that some couldnt after years of training
Anonymous No.76610919 [Report] >>76610964
>>76610911
well i am not sorry at all botardo cretino :D
>>76610908
>>76610863
>>76610803
>>76607959

did i do sth wrong?
heel hook:
>add some heel-hooking:
>https://www.youtube.com/shorts/NfwtDIscQm8
is for gastrocnemius and knee part of hammies :D
Anonymous No.76610948 [Report] >>76610964 >>76610965
>>76610057 (OP)
why would you not do that weighted anyways?
why would you make the box above parallel?
Anonymous No.76610964 [Report]
>>76610948
>did i do sth wrong?
so i didn't do anything wrong? :D
>>76610919
Anonymous No.76610965 [Report] >>76611011
>>76610948
if you can do 10 full rom pistol squats your legs are strong as fuck so who cares? no need for more unless you're competing.
Anonymous No.76611011 [Report] >>76611036 >>76611053
>>76610965
>if you can do 10 full rom pistol squats your legs are strong as fuck so who cares? no need for more unless you're competing.
in tard olympics - yes boto idioto

mine:
>>76610908
Anonymous No.76611036 [Report]
>>76611011
honestly m8 idgaf about pistol squats but it's a slam dunk as far as calisthenics leg training goes
Anonymous No.76611053 [Report]
>>76611011
who the fuck keeps posting this pic. Her skin is so burned that she's going to look like leather by 27