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>>105687302 (OP)
I pierced the thread's hymen. I am no longer a virgin.

>/utwg/ thread rebaked forever before /twg/
>/twg/ totally inactive while /utwg/ is going well
The absolute state of the job market

>>105686554
Yes its the same for anything data (data analysis, data engineering) except data science. Tons of inept Indians who can only open a jupyter notebook and not much besides that. I don't even know why data scientist in the past got paid so much considering their role was rather easy if they didn't do any of the data engineering. But yes anything that comes close to actual operations and live data will not get flooded by Indians, or they will flood but will get rejected. You typically need to interact with stakeholders as well since the way you design systems, the way you make pipelines and so on will heavily impact business users or end users.

>>105687853
Ah the job market for juniors is ass. Typically people start leaving these threads once they're beyond 2-3 years of experience and stop really caring about what they're doing. I guess the average age in these threads is 25-27ish.

>>105688329
All that roles have been full on india-only for at least 10 years

>>105687853
I'm starting a youtube channel. Getting a CS degree was a mistake.

>>105688620
>I'm starting a youtube channel.
What will it be like? Anime vtuber does tech reviews and begs for work?

>>105688329
I regret going into data, every data role posted gets a 1000 jeets smearing poo on it, so the whole process is long and convoluted
Even if I was to get another job in it I get the feeling I'd be surrounded by Indians again (I left my first data role because it was literally like a ratio of 10:1, ended up in a smaller company with an all white team (worked there years but the experience wasn't anything current, but it was nice being around people with the same culture as me))

Wonder if it's worth changing, but what to?
I'd actively avoided DevOps because after eight years of IT Support I was burnt out with dealing with shit going wrong.
And now I've got four years of ERP dev experience.

CyberSec maybe, or is that already getting flooded?

>>105689319
cybersec has been a meme for a few years so it's getting quite flooded.

>all software related jobs are moving to india
It has never been more over

>>105689476
yep.
even in export controlled fields, for some reason they can get away with it as long as some glowie fuck signs off on it. it's not like software can contain tech data, kek. I mean it can, but extreme doubt.jpg

>>105689319
all of those fields are basically the same and are all equally shit. it's pajeet maxxed.
it's over.

your best bet is to try and make what you want to see in the world, but good luck getting funding for it.

learn a trade

>>105688329
Lol as an Indian-American who got into this industry by being a jupyter notebook data science jeet, 100% agree.
Data science is a complete horseshit field flooded by jeets who think that they can run an ML pipeline with a shitty scikit SDK in their jupyter notebook.

My last job was being a senior data scientist jeet wrangler and in 2024, I changed jobs and changed my job title to completely avoid that jeet mess.

I go to local tech meetups where a lot of grad students and younger folks getting into the industry ask me "I'm studying data science blah blah- " and immediately cut them off and tell em that data science is fucking useless for 99% of enterprises. What they should be aiming for is being a generalist full stack eng who knows how to get the data from your CRUDshit app into the relational DB and run analytics pipelines on it while not having some dogshit streamlit interface and having something more enterprise friendly (aka learn web dev e.g. React or other frontend webshitter) so that you are NOT the pajeet making plotly diagrams in a fucking notebook

All fields are jeetified but data science is 100% pure jeet because its not impacting prod pipelines most of the time and there's a lot of algorithmic LARPing going on where jeets can pretend to know about the nuances of a tree based boosting algorithm

Fuck me as I'm typing this out at 5:45 AM I'm being brouggt back to my ML data science interview with Apple where some cunty Indian uncle asked me the most retarded impractical algorthmic questions about XGBoost. Fuck data science, fuck that entire field.

I swear I'm not racist I literally have picked up the Indian accent because I've worked with Indians for 15 years and god fuck what's even happening anymore.

>>105689562
>and having something more enterprise friendly (
I mean producing visualizations that are more enterprise friendly. Data science is full of jeets who create Streamlit interfaces or plotly/seaborn/highcharts diagrams out of the box in notebooks.

Honestly in hindsight data scientists are such incapable retards. My last job had a PhD who took a whole year to write one notebook for a computer vision transcription task and he didn't know how to set up the S3 bucket himself using Textract's async API. All just fucking retards and that guy wasn't even a jeet he was worse. A PhD

>>105689540
why? so you can make even less and compete with El Salvadorians and shit?

>>105689573
Let me.guess: a MATH PhD

>>105689562
also this. data science is a meme. you still need to understand computers and it's likely the data you'll work with will always be the worst case scenario of unworkable dogshit anyway.

>>105689578
at least you always have a job and can work outside a major city

>>105689562
I'm not sure why you think you're above them, you are the jeet everyone's trying to avoid.

>>105689595
This

>>105689593
>at least you always have a job
not really. my brother is an iron worker and he still has no work.
my parents got a new roof done and they told me it was all spics.

boomers want lower costs, not a functioning society. there is no real work because no one wants to pay up.

>>105689595
jeet is just a swear word, just like kike, nigger and faggot.
racism has no place here.

>>105689615
That's why we're calling you a jeet, nigger.

>>105689640
not the same poster, I'm white btw.

>>105689642
If you were White you wouldn't be standing up for pajeets, not even Canadian open borders shitlibs like them.

>>105689588
I think it was a PhD in econometrics. This is what happens for a lot of people who get these meme tier PhDs
>be faggot
>want to have nice job
>don't have any skills
>decide to get PhD so you can claim the diploma firehosed the information into you
>get PhD in some quantitative field like econometrics
>fintech company like the one I worked at decides econometrics PhDs will help them Add Value To ShareHolders™
>faggot with econometrics PhD joins fintech company
>real word data from ERPs/CRMs are data engineering pipelines are messy as fuck
>nothing like academia
>none of the priors in academia actually are relevant in the real world, ceteris paribus etc.
>also don't know how to work with actual SDKs
>somehow this fucking retard got a PhD in econometrics without ever learning to use real world SDKs
>spends months setting up the Sagemaker notebook
>faggot ends up bothering the team about not being able to set up Textract
>it's been months since the PhD has made any progress on this project, what is he doing?
>he's been blocked because he can't set up an S3 bucket with Textract's Async API
THIS WAS ALSO LITERALLY IN THE AGE OF CHATGPT. THIS WAS ON A FUCKING TEAM THAT WAS ACTIVELY MAKING A FUCKING LLM WRAPPER

boomers. It's not that he was a Phd actually. It's because he was old. now i remember. fuck

>>105689615
>jeet is just a swear word
W R O N G
https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeetupatel

>woke up
>logged in
>nothing really to do
>still seething and fucking mad over the dumbest shit that happened

>>105689595
I am not above them. I am below them. I am the SHVDRA taking on the SILICON VALLEY BRAHMIN MENACE.

>>105689693
>woke up
>logged in
>all of our lower env dbs are offline
>DBAs say "still working on it"
Okay well idk I'm definitely not going to watch shitty linkedin learning videos.

>>105689589
>also this. data science is a meme. you still need to understand computers and it's likely the data you'll work with will always be the worst case scenario of unworkable dogshit anyway.
This is exactly why I think data science is retarded - because on paper data scientists are separated from the engineers (software engineers) who set up the application and data engineering pipelines they are sampling the data from to run their shitty scikit-learn ML pipelines anyways.

It makes no sense to me that most organizations think of data scientists as separate from software engineers because I don't understand how you can properly do data science work without knowing the data models and potential data transformations happening in the app's backend.

As a former data scientist in a big corpo (similar to being a former tranny who detransitioned), I just remember feeling so fucking lost because you're silo'd away from the developers who are actively working on the data pipelines and even further away from the guys who actually built the backend's relational data models or even worse the unstructured mongo SHIDDING AND SHARDING clusterfuck

>>105689704
Please do the needful and be under a train thank you saar.

>>105689745
Detransition baby.

>>105689666
meanwhile in my field
>this real data from a real instrument your lab captured is not real enough
>you only compared 10 tools on 15 pt-sized datasets, that's not good enough
>the math looks great but I prefer top indices instead of bottom indices. Rejected.
>The tool is easy to use and efficient but it's not on dockerhub with data pulled from an s3 bucket. Rejected.
Why do I do this to myself, I should have gotten a meme degree to get a cozy do-nothing job like your econometrist.

>>105689733
As a fellow datanigger I never had that problem.Was always expected to handle all deployment into prod, all testing and analytics, and all web development as well.

>>105689757
>>The tool is easy to use and efficient but it's not on dockerhub with data pulled from an s3 bucket. Rejected.
This is pretty sensible, and I can understand why your workplace does this. It's pretty much non-negotiable for people working in enterprise settings to know how containerization and setting up / manipulating cloud resources works.

ITS NON NEGOTIABLE. In the age of chat gippity it's so easy

>>105689768
>As a fellow datanigger I never had that problem.Was always expected to handle all deployment into prod, all testing and analytics, and all web development as well.
Did you work in a larger company? I was a senior data scientist at a big corpo and I definitely felt silo'd.

I'm now at a startup wearing all the hats and I realize how little I did as a data scientist in terms of work across the stack

we're building cursor for coding

>>105689722
ha one of our integrations is done and im like fuck it man im going to grind some tekken 8.

>can you hear me
>can you hear me
>can you see my screen
>can you see my screen
shut the fuck up

>>105689885
I'm amazed at how rigorous the interview process is for anything in tech, but the day to day is always Office Space type shit. You'd think after four different companies I'd learn, but nope.
Thank god for WFH.

>>105689795
I was talking about academic peer review

>>105690039
Yeah it's such bullshit man. I wouldn't say it's all flowers and bees though. My workplace is constantly on fire and i'm just like BURN ME TOO KILLLLLLLLL MEEEEEEEE PLEASEEEEE OH GOD LET IT END MY CHILDHOOD CRUSH GOT MARRIED LIKE A YEAR AGO AND I JUST FOUND OUT THIS MONTH I HAVE NO REASON TO LIVEEE FUCKING KILLL MEEE

>>105689959
Nobody's problem but jeets like you that teams is unusable

>/utwg/ autists who avoid communication and think everything should be sent in an email
And they wonder why they can't get past 2nd interview rounds kek

GET A FUCKING TRIP ALREADY

>>105687853
I might be coping, but I think it's starting to improve.
Starting a month ago I've been getting noticeably more responses to my applications, and I haven't changed anything other than writing a nicer generic cover letter.
t. 2.5 YoE

>>105690103
NTA but please email first then we can call later. the problem is you loop me into a conversation, guess what you don't know what you're talking about, I don't know what the fuck you're talking about so I end up asking you for an email anyways to figure out what the fuck you're saying. Then sometimes you'll say some fucking bullshit, I'll shut you down right there and then a week later you'll be like WHAT ABOUT X???? and I'll be like motherfucker I already told you no.
fuck calls.

>>105690124
Nah, I have things to do I'm not stopping what I'm doing and wasting time writing an email when can simply have a call instead while working on something. It's called multitasking. Learn basic communication skills or go back to being a neet and don't enter the real world again.

>>105690152
>anon forgot to read the SOP again
maybe go read the fucking SOP instead of bothering me you stupid fucker

8 yoe, 4 big data hadoop, 4 data engineering aws/gcp. Contract is up in a couple of months. Trying to decide if I should make a horizontal jump to something else outside of data. Everything's fucked and I actively hate the work I do every day and the people who flock to this field. I need to buy a laptop, start using it for personal projects, and get excited about tech again like I was not so many years ago.
I can't quit or go too long without a job because I have a small family and a mortgage. Time to figure it out.

>>105690103
I'd prefer things stayed in email because then I can protect my ass when you change your mind.

>>105688347
Really? I think the average anon here is your 30s disillusioned tech worker that likes shitposting and commiserating.

>>105690103
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PI709plS2uk
Give me text or give me an icepick to shove into my ears.

>>105690243
this and much easier to refer to this shit later. Otherwise I send a point-by-point of all calls in email or slack and wait for approval by the other party to do anything. I have too much politics experience to do anything less

>>105690272
Can confirm, I'm 33

>>105689959
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLRVh22ze84

>>105690272
i am over 200 years old, actually.

>>105687302 (OP)
why post this ugly jeeta
thread ruined

>>105688347
it's more like 20-25

>>105690348
Absolutely. I'm 35 doing the same.

>>105690408
idk why it triggers me so much

I got a bitch coworker and a boss who keeps enabling him, how do I cope?

>>105689666
To be completely fair, it's been my experience that AWS resources are tightly controlled by a team with almost no bandwidth. It was really annoying when I needed to make a functioning demo but could only do things locally at best.
But I also do actual work that's not contingent on my not being able to use a random tool

anyone else liek this?

Ahhh another day in the office, sitting on an empty desk, working directly on the laptop they gave me since we don't even have monitors, on a shitty chair, with shit coffee available downstairs

Don't do it don't think about home FUCK

>>105690739
>anyone else liek this?
if you actually enjoy IT stuff, find things to do that look meaningful even if you arent part of a solution.
Do self learning, look into APIs of the systems you use, try to cross-train etc

>boss is making me call into a meeting like two minutes before lunch
>he booked a meeting at 1PM for some other bullshit so I won't get my full hour of lunch
no
fuck you

>see Go used a lot in jobs
>decide to go teach myself it
>third entry is a jeet website

Holy shit, this is already grim.

>>105691320
thats arabic dumbass

>>105691339
same thing

Is it required to have zero organization skills and buttfuck the very rules you preach in order to get a management position?
These people are exhausting.

>>105691320
go was literally invented for shitskins too retarded for java, according to rob pike.

>>105687302 (OP)
is that the she-hulk

>>105691503
No, that is the she-poo monster

>>105691500
I truly believe it.

Also, the fact the Go website has chinese in its Hello World says more than enough.

I'm done.

Corporate and tech culture is the gayest thing I’ve ever experienced

Every part of work has to be jammed into a KPI so some retarded bureaucratic middle manager can optimize a spreadsheet, then make sweeping decisions or lay off thousands. Someone disconnected from the actual WORK it’s like taking orders from a fucking alien.

Every facet of corp culture is soaked in fake "LinkedIn niceness." If you speak up, call out a bullshit meeting, you’re slapped down. You’re always someone’s bitch. No respect or prestige despite engineers creating the actual VALUE. And for what? To build worthless software that exists solely to raise stock price? It's meaningless. You have to be a woman, sociopath, or faggot to enjoy it.

Webdev is gay. Stacking abstractions far removed from computer SCIENCE. Gotta crank out commits to hit KPIs. Doesn’t matter if anyone understands the syntax or modules. Just has to compile right?! Hope you’ve got 6 years exp in this JS trend that'll be obsolete as techfags trend hop. No time build actual mastery. Fuck NPM fuck AWS and fuck JavaScript

Outsourcing is pure greed. Jeet culture is 3rd world garbage. Saving face is more important than truth. Comprehending their pidgin English is often harder than the actual work. Why are we importing this? Why is a 3rd of my company speaking Tamil?

Millennial coworkers are gay. Stop showing up in hoodies and tshirts. You earn more than 95% of the country, act like a professional. No I don't want to talk about vidya, minifigs, or F1 all the time. Why do none of you have families?

I’m done. I’m going to law school to be a PD or DA. It's a pay cut and more (((debt))). But at least law is REAL, something rooted in shit like philosophy and ethics. At least I won't be corporate cog bottom-rung bitch. I’ll have some actual professional prestige. And most importantly, it's MEANINGFUL: I'll be helping people or locking up criminals. I’ll take that over Jeets and JS Jengatower slop

Fuck

>>105691661
FUCK YEAH GET OUT OF THERE IM CHEERING FOR YOU MAN

>>105691661
You are into something but you lost me halfway through.
First, I'm no millenial, but I'll dress however I want, and if you don't like it then go ahead and fire me, this is not a model agency.
Second
>But at least law is REAL, something rooted in shit like philosophy and ethics.
You never had any job in another field right?
You will be someone's bitch anywhere you go. Any responsibility or fancy position is just an excuse to use you as a lightning rod. You'll do what you are told, when you are told.

Yeah, I really don't like synchronous style communication. Just feels like a lot of "GOTCHA" shit, I'm so tired of getting caught off guard bros....

>>105691799
I've been ignoring every task I don't recieve as a ticket for months.
I'm also very organized so I remember everything I do so if someone asks "Where's X feature we "told" that had to be done?" I just reply "Where's the ticket?".
This usually ends with my boss's face contorting into an ape-like, almost mentally retarded expression.

>>105691821
Yeah this department is a fucking mess. I'll just randomly get looped into things and suddenly it's like "ANON YOU HAVE TO FIND THE SOLUTION AND THIS IS HIGH RISK HIGH IMPACT" and I'll just be like "wtf". Very old style shit and I'm not even sure what is the proper format for this fucking shit. My old boss used to handle this but he pretty much did everything and didn't delegate shit.

No seriously, can someone make me understand the proper way these types of stuff needs to be done because I'm genuinely confused on how badly fucked I'm getting.

Daily reminder.

>>105691870
I GET THAT MAN BUT IM JUST WONDERING WHAT THE FUCK EVEN IS THE BARE MINIMUM ANYMORE

>>105691885
The bare minimum is being a fullstack engineer, listening to Indians, and keeping up with the latest JavaScript-slop and cloud-slop at all times.

>>105691902
For me it's being just frontend. For some unholy reason literally everyone sucks at CSS and can't do basic JS for shit anymore.

>>105691790
>First, I'm no millenial, but I'll dress however I want, and if you don't like it then go ahead and fire me, this is not a model agency.
The dress code shit is a pet peeve so I'll conseed that.

>You will be someone's bitch anywhere you go. Any responsibility or fancy position is just an excuse to use you as a lightning rod. You'll do what you are told, when you are told.
DAs and PDs generally have a large degree of autonomy and independence. You get your cases and you work on them independently. If it's a large case, a senior attorney will lead it and other people will collaborate. Some prosecutor offices have conviction rate quotas, but that's generally on the way out. Your main obligation is towards the PD or DA office as a civil servant, not a worthless middle manager. You guys are all working managing the same case load and working with the courts, not directly beholden to a micromanaging supervisor who's detached from the actual work

They're roles that are mission-driven and ethically grounded, not driven by gay corporate profits. DA and PD positions come with substantial autonomy for the actual legal work. And they have way more stability and respect due to being a real fucking profession not focused optimizing profits for some billion dollar business.

>>105691661
>I’m done. I’m going to law school to be a PD or DA. It's a pay cut and more (((debt))). But at least law is REAL, something rooted in shit like philosophy and ethics. At least I won't be corporate cog bottom-rung bitch. I’ll have some actual professional prestige. And most importantly, it's MEANINGFUL: I'll be helping people or locking up criminals. I’ll take that over Jeets and JS Jengatower slop

lol, lmao even

t. wife and inlaws are lawyers

>>105692034
Because everyone outsources the fundamentals in JS and CSS (aka the actual hard stuff) to modules and frameworks. They do the hard work for everyone.

Like the wagie rant above said, it's a jenga of abstractions

>>105692067
What speciality do they work in? Law has a wide range. Bjglaw work culture is corporate gayness and cven more cancerous than tech.

>>105691341
it's literally not
even pakis dont speak arabic (its not an official language; some individual pakis may speak arabic)

>>105692057
>DAs and PDs generally have a large degree of autonomy and independence.
holy shit lmao

>>105692102
>holy shit lmao
You literally manage trials. Once trained, you exercise fucking broad discretion over charging people or defense strategy. You have tons of day-to-day autonomy. You're only bounded by ethics rules and minor office policies (i.e. senior attorneys get the big cases). If you're a department head you have to buttheads with politicians sometimes, but that's end-stage career stuff, if you even choose to go that far.

>>105692165
bro are you not aware that there are not just higher courts, but that lawyers argue based on legal precedent and not "ethics rules" or "minor office policies"

>>105691661
> Why do none of you have families?

Autism + not liked by women. The millenials with families who work in this field are 1000x worse.

> law is REAL

You'll be corporate cog bottom-rung bitch since big law pays their lawyers maybe 1/6th of the value they add to the company at best. You'll encounter the the type of cringe fake suits, fake prestige havers that are insufferable. It's why I don't like to work for consultancies, a lot of them have these pretentious assholes walking around thinking they're important being detached for 200 euros an hour while they make like 35 an hour. Truly insufferable and worse than the Indian menace in software.

> locking up criminals

That part of the law pays the least.

>>105692094
>do they work in?
lets assume they have friends whom also work in law and just within this family alone they work in several industries. You are looking for holes in a field you know nothing about and wont just take my lol word. There is real estate commercial law, family law , and big law. In addition to all this I know a dude that has law degree and IT experience doing security/law for oil and gas company that is huge. His job sucks, the lady that works the largest law firm in the world it sucks, the real estate lawyer it also sucks and they are a partner at their firm. You also have no idea how much knowing people and corruption there is in law. Your entire practice can be based just on how a judge rules in a county, are they for or against debtors. There is bankruptcy law and all the shit that surrounds that. But nah, fuck me im sure there's an amazing law job out there like on Boston Legal and you will have all the respect of your peers. These people with law jobs have been previously, cops, IT directors, owned their own firms that spanned an entire state. They have left big law to do smaller orgs and "meaningful" work. It all sucks. Stop looking for a job to fulfill you, because its not ever going to.

>>105692165
Yes, and then the local sherriff flops his BWC out on your desk because one of your cases (an unpaid 200$ ticket) is akshually in his jurisdiction, not the municipality's.

or you do work for the sherriff's office, and instead the state troopers do the same.

or you're a trooper and the fbi does it.

or you're fbi and the cia does it.

or you're cia and mossad does it. etc etc

>>105692075
It's fucking unreal. I've had interviews with guys that were supposedly senior (5+ yoe in React) that were unable to explain me what Array.reduce do or what a closure is.
Funny thing, they couldn't really explain core React concept either.
There's hordes of retards that can only do the most cookie cutter shit ever again and again and if you ask for something out of the ordinary their brain shut down.

>>105687302 (OP)
good morning sirs, another day of not getting fired for some reason

>I hate how high stress it is to be a software "engineer" just kitbashing microservices all day!

>I'm going to apply to the local prosecutor's office, surely they will hire me and it will be a relaxing easygoing job!

>>105687302 (OP)
is pic related supposed to be someone of importance? who? and why?

>>105691661
Calm down, you aren't supposed to say this out loud. Imagine if your coworkers were also in this thread reading this!

....my boss rejected my vacation day because I sarcastically said I was going to fly a kite next week. I mean I actually was but still man the fuck. i'll just take a sick day

>>105692183
What are you even talking about? Obviously you operate on legal precedent. What do you think precedent is grounded in or an abstraction of?

>>105692190
Big law is cancer, I'm not doing that shit.
>That part of the law pays the least.
Already said that's not my priority. My state pays $75k starting to DAs and PDs. That's more than enough for me.

>>105692207
Would rather deal with those annoyances than gay corporate culture and Jeets

>>105692220
It's not about the stress. It's about how gay and meaningless corpo tech is.

>>105691661
I mean you were cooking up until that last little bit.
I don't know what you have against hoodies man. also then you said that retarded shit about becoming a defense attorney what are you fucking phoenix wright?

>>105692220
t. never worked in tech

>>105692192
I'm not expecting 100% fulfilment from any job. I just know I would just enjoy criminal procedure work far more than tech bullshit.

And frankly, no Jeets is an incredible bonus.

>>105692280
>gay and meaningless
i used to hang out with a public defender and he said it was completely soul-sucking since every perp absolutely did it, and every case was some lame bullshit like getting caught with half a gram of weed or people contesting parking tickets

so have fun being on the other side of that and prosecuting incredibly lame crimes for incredibly lame people. even if you do catch any "bad guys" they'll invariably be the same four or five methheads who keep getting released on bond

>What do you think precedent is grounded in or an abstraction of?
not ethics, and as a DA you would be so far removed from the creation or evaluation of laws from a societal standpoint. low level law is about maintaining consistency, not actually protecting the morality of the nation or dignity of the people

>>105692328
so why not become a Cyber Detective or something

you dont even have to larp as an ebin hackerman, basically you just go to police tech school and put in your CV that you know how to touch a computer without destroying evidence. 99% of "cybercrime investigations" are basically poring over data seized in normal busts

>>105692211
>Array.reduce (a JavaScript method literally nobody uses in the year of our lord and savior 2025)
>"""""closure""""" (pointless vocabulary that, again, literally nobody uses)
this is more than """""out of the ordinary""""" anon, you are just a shitty interviewer

>>105692283
>"""""cooking"""""
who let the zoomer summerbabbys into this board?

>>105692372
nta, awful bait

>>105692332
I'd be fine with working primarily with low-level crimes. It's at least real. Even serial methheads deserve justice and due process. And you eventually get felony cases. One day you're handling a petty theft; the next, you're second-chair on a rape trial.

You're not writing laws in trial-level work obviously. Doesn't mean common law isn't deeply tied to ethics and societal norms. You're directly interfacing with people's constitutional rights. While precedent is also about consistency and structure, courts weigh moral questions all the time. You're inherently asking what due process requires for each case. It’s not sterile rules-following unless you're a cynical retard.

>>105692345
This sounds based. Think about all the pizza you get for free!

>>105692372
pajeet or pretending

>>105692415
>us law
>ethical
lol
>You're directly interfacing with people's constitutional rights.
no you're not, only the supreme court can do that.

>>105692415
your job is literally to weaselword out of justice being carried out. I'm not beinf facerious, your job description is to do anything poaaible to help your client, nothing to do with justice.

>>105692382
god shut the fuck up already damn

>>105692477
Zoomer language is cringe. It's like the slang millenials used as preteens only zoomers never grew out of it

>>105692372
People are calling this post bait but reduce is turing complete and a performance trap. Even in highly optimizing langues like rust fold/reduce will sometimes generate suboptimal code. You should strongly consider if you need reduce unless you're highly iterator-y code.

>>105692485
god shut up shutttt up

>>105692457
>>105692476
Whatever man, have fun working with the Supareet Jamamaladakas of the world for the rest of your careers. I'm off to greener pastures.

>>105692512
>he thinks law isn't full of hated minorities

>>105692534
I hate Indians so fucking much dude, I'd rather work with blacks or spics

>>105692560
SAAR DO YOU A HAVE THE NEEDFUL DEPOSITION SAAR THE BLOODY BENCH BASTERD IS REFUSE GRAND JURY

>>105692560
What is it about working with Indians that you hate the most? inb4 the smell.

For me it's the lying, but thats why indians are elite at climbing the corporate ladder in America

>>105692624
For me, it's that I have nothing that I relate to them with. No values, no language, no culture, nothing.

yeah I don't care if I get fired anymore, I'm not taking blind calls or anything where it's like "are you available for a quick chat" anymore. Give me context or I'm just not going to answer.

>>105692649
be careful being fired. getting a job has become very hard. Im still on unemployment and on month 6 of being unemployed.

>>105692655
honestly I've been thinking pretty hard on it for the past couple of weeks and I think I can make do with a year break. I'll take the L with my savings for a year or two. It's better than really feeling insanely shit and angry at everything and everyone for a good chunk of my life.

>>105692644
That's a good reason to hate them. My dad was an H1B from India who worked at IBM. He's a completely autistic alien with no American values. I don't think he was nice to work with.

>>105692624
lack of organization. i feel like I waste so much time on calls when this could've been a simple yes or no question.

>>105692668
Anything less than 10 YoE I would not take 1 year break.

>>105692691
meh grass less taken or grass more taken i don't want to be fucked in the ass anymore. my ass hurts. i want to stay at home and actually start and catchup to the one piece anime

>>105692683
If you've ever been to India, it's a completely disorganized shithole. This is partly because of laziness (hot climate) but also because of rampant lying and weird medieval levels of retardation / subservience. But mostly lying.

Jeets take a long time on calls because they don't want to say that they're wrong or don't know something.

>>105692624
theyre so fucking slow, and they're timid but standoffish in that way where you know they have a massive superiority complex despite being a taxi driver or pizza delivery guy or some shit. they take every opportunity to inconvenience others to feel even a shred of power in their lives

once indians get into HR we're even more fucked than we are now

>>105692691
Im over 10 yoe, and it's shit right now.

any ccna havers here?
has the boson ccna practice test been posted anywhere?

>>105692707
>they take every opportunity to inconvenience others to feel even a shred of power in their lives
Huh?

I think it's more like "you need to prove yourself SAAAR i proved myself in the school of ten million gangashitterprajeets, NOW YOU MUST SHOW THE LOW LEVEL ALGORITHMICS"

They make life hell because india is a place where everything is competitive

>>105692211
>There's hordes of retards that can only do the most cookie cutter shit ever again and again and if you ask for something out of the ordinary their brain shut down.
Tbh you quickly forget things you do not use. You do not want to be like me and try to review EVERYTHING every few weeks so you can remember niche properties of kernel just because you seen them once on hn blog post.

>>105692220
Sometimes i feel that I'd actually meet fun people if I worked difficult and demanding normie field. Normies at the office seem to have more fun that doesn't require someone's suffering.
I like my job tho it's demanding.

>>105692747
that does create bias

>I got lucky into this gig where 10 million failed. That must mean Im the best. The domestic workers of this country I infiltrated arent as smart as I

And yet they squirm when they are in fear of being sent back to that melting pot. Serves them right

>>105692747
i dont work with many indians and they tend to be young and 3rd gen or later. but the indians i meet in my day to day are like that

man i miss my old indian coworkers. they were hilarious man missed them. not really hard workers but didn't bug me. one guy left during the lunch break. I never snitched. we held a he brought his gamecube in and we just played in secret.

sigh what happened to them man.

>>105692624
All aspects of Indian "English" make me want to drive a nail through my skull:
>The fast-paced singsong speech
>The constant interrupting
>The thick accents
and most importantly
>The scatterbrained way they communicate ideas.
They rapidly move through subjects, talk about them on a surface level, and then expect you to derive the structure and requirements for a given task out of their gobbledygook puddle of speech. And they expect you to have (or pretend to have) an in-depth understanding of that same subject the very next day, regardless of its scope. That, or the previously super important task they blitzed through yesterday is just never mentioned again.

It's not just tech. My wife is a med student and had a Pajeeta preceptor. Exact same shit: Pajeeta had a thick accent that was hard to understand (despite being in the US for years). And she rapidly danced through tons of material before giving my wife a vague reading assignment like "study endocrinology and present about it tomorrow". And sometimes it was never brought up again. Other times, the preceptor was dissappointing my wife's presentation didn't focus on their one specific element the Pajeeta obviously was talked about and wanted you to focus on. I.e., she blitzed through it and it blended in with the 1000 other subjects coming out of her mouth each second. Meanwhile every other normal preceptor my wife had just told student to read about something specific and helpful for the take home material. Like a certain type of heart condition. And they even provided direct links to the research papers/textbook chapters they wanted students to read.

I truly don't understand this culture.

>>105692809
*obviously talked about
What I get for being a phoneposting faggot

coming back from lunch
I over-ate and there's 3 more hours on the clock
wish me luck

>>105689562
It sucks being one of the few competent Indians but yes I recognize everything you say. "Data science" as advertized, i.e. ML engineering is completely useless for the vast majority of companies. The companies where it is useful require you to have publications and preferably a phd. The spots are very competitive.

Doing data wrangling and backend engineering on a database is more lucrative than data science currently is. Except you need to learn a whole lot more to be proficient in that. Honestly knowing about machine learning is a nice-to-have at most companies. If you go into data analysis having a solid grasp of dashboarding, databases, data warehouses, making data pipelines and basic statistics is everything you need. I've only once been asked about something involving machine learning in 5 years of working and it was a small proof of concept about synthetic data. Basic statistical knowledge about distributions, how to interpret company data, how to interpret use cases, how statistical testing / means comparisons work will be far more important than machine learning.

>>105692809
>I truly don't understand this culture.
Let me help you - the culture is one big race race to shit in the river upstream from the next guy. Everything they do, everything they say, the entire nation is engaged in one big race to drink and shit in the water supply upstream from their neighbor.

What's /twg/ favorite Persona game?

>>105689666
Econometrics is a subfield of math. You should only hire them as quants or financial analysts, not something that is too technical for them.

> in the age of chatGPT

Yeah idk what to say. I guess chatgpt enables retards to find out answers easier than just googling and opening up 10 webpages and making your own conclusions from it. I don't like the reliance some of the newer people into this field have on these tools, it honestly makes them lack knowledge.

>>105693036
2 and 3
5 is surprisingly good despite being mega popular. 4 is overrated SOL slop. 1 is rough but decent.

Data engineering bros, I've almost achieved another full day of not fixing the broken pipelines. Feels amazing.

>>105692560
you really don't, you merely have more experience with poos

>>105693036
1 (the psp rerelease) has the best music but the only smt game i could really get into was Devil Survivor

i played a lot of P4A back in the day too

>>105693054
God speed

>>105693062
At least blacks are American and AAVE/ghetto English is comprehensible.

2nd/3rd Gen Hispanics are mostly fine. They integrate far better than Jeets after a few generations since they more share Western values.

>>105693089
lol
lmao

>>105693119
Look I don't like nignog behavior either but I'd take them over jeets

>>105692192
wait so uhh... i cant become like bobby donnell?

My direct report is burnt out and he's not telling me anything. How exactly do I fix his motivation and attitude if he's not giving me shit to work with?

Is R&D Software Engineering a good field to settle in? All of my jobs since I graduated from my maths and cs degree has been for this sort of work, I enjoy it a lot and it pays pretty well too compared to other SWE jobs. This has been pure accident too, these places always give me interviews and they always offer better TC than the shitholes that wants me to work on their enterprise software

Anyway, I feel kinda isolated from the rest of the SWEing world, I've learned a bit about about tangential fields like physics and electronics engineering, but I feel most of the software that I've written has been pretty basic in terms of technologies used. Kinda worried that I won't be able to pick up a "normal" software engineering job without taking a big paycut if I don't switch over soon.

>>105693174
give him MONEY

>>105693228
No.

>>105693292
>>105693228
Does money really fix burnout?

i'm a full stack c# dev but my company insists on using blazor
sometimes it's a bit of a pain in the ass

>>105693330
no

>>105693330
yeah it turns out literal rewards make people do things

>>105693174
sex with that creature

>start doing background check
>"Entire process should take you 15-20 minutes."
kek, fucking delusional. I am already 2h in, and no end in sight. fuck that Kafkaesque shit.

>>105693292
Give him agency and space on a project where he actually gets to build something

>>105693174
drop him. he is either quiet quitting or functionally catatonic. basically useless. if he can't end it on his own, you'll be doing him a favor.
>>105693330
no.

Okay, Im beyond angry. I'm pretty sure I just took an assessment that is the equivalent of a humiliation ritual.

I did an automatic online assessment from Capital One. They give me one hour to do four problems. Four problems in one hour. I also have to set up my camera and share my screen. No biggie.

The first function was easy. So easy that I forgot what the problem was. The second problem, they ramped it up and Im starting to wonder if this problem was written by jeets. I had to do some drone problem where you walk to a number of stations, it can only go a certain amount, and calculate total amount of dist you take in units on foot. But then I realized I didnt understand the problem correctly, and the drone can go past the charging stations, so I had to rewrite it and already used up 15 minutes of planning. I didnt past all the test cases and remember, Im at 35 mins to go.

On to the third problem. This one was absolutely made to humiliate you. Take a string[][] of paragraph of words, place them into a string[], but you have to newline any word that exceeds the max width per line. Btw, add decoration of asterisks around it and pad each line into a center alignment.

As you can see, I didn't even finish this one in time. And the four problem was skipped cause I only had 3 minutes left. And it was a mountain view problem with finding the minimum difference between peaks, blah, blah blah.

Fuck these assessments.

>>105690348
34 checking in--the meme is real.

>>105690348
38 here

>>105693756
This. Work is a place for your to make money for the Company, not your sad sack crying time.

>>105693833
And if you want to know what test it was, it from Codesignal. Heard bad things about them.

>>105692190
>The millenials with families who work in this field are 1000x worse.

1000x worse?

Help desk monkey here, I wipe my dick on your keyboards before "installing" them.

>>105693963
thanks for letting me know, i was wondering why it smelled so good

>>105693963
My dick's longer than yours. It goes from A to Z on the keyboard.

>>105693833
I don't understand the problem. Sounds like you just didn't do too well on what sounds like some reasonable problems in an admittedly short amount of time? I doubt you're expected to solve all of them, or solve all of them perfectly, in an hour.

>>105693833
those are all trivially easy problems, youre just a brainlet and codelet nodev

>>105694192
they expect>>105694192
Unfortunately the norm is that if you dont solve it perfectly, you get rejected

>>105694219
I doubt that's the case at fucking Capital One of all places, despite what the doomers on reddit say

>>105693212
Fields that don't exist typically aren't good ideas

>take call with recruiter in my car during work
>way hotter than I expected
>phone 5G cuts off mid call
>"huh?"
>phone says its overheated so it turned off internet connection

>>105694243
Nope Im screwed

>>105693833
I got sent this same one but I stopped when they asked for my driver's license and last 4 digits of SSN so I didn't even look at the problems
I'm not giving up that info before I even talk to a recruiter.

>>105694192
Since like 2015 you were expected to solve everything AND solve it perfectly AND optimally to boot.

>>105694260
Ok and? It sounds like he hot about 1.5 out of 4 questions right, just like you. I didn't say you did good, in fact I said you didn't do too well. That doesn't mean you need to be perfect. Just better than you and that guy. With your deductive reasoning skills, no wonder you're doing poorly on these assessments.

>>105694271
yep thats the one. I had to go check and unfortunately it's legit. I assume cause they're a bank, they have to do it, but it's still shady af

Alright Anons, I had my first technical google interview. It was for an embedded SWE role.
The questions were just some bit manipulation (swap each bit in a var with the bit next to it) and a question messing with a 1d array that represents 2d data.
It wasn't too bad and I think I performed well enough, but the interviewer was an Indian woman and she clearly was not very interested in me. So I'm probably not going to get the next stage.

Ah well, it's always a coinflip.
My applications have been getting more attention lately so I'm not really bothered by it.

>>105694249
well then how would you describe the field that I described?

>>105694289
>It wasn't too bad and I think I performed well enough, but the interviewer was an Indian woman
it's over.

>>105694298
imaginary, just like 'sql programming' or 'test developement'

>>105694243
Capital One didn't get to be a laughing stock among consumers by doing reasonable and sane things

probably why they're so fucked up but still in business is they have lots of "smart" people who have memorized the answers to those sorts of tests but are incapable of rational thought or even basic knowledge of any context other than their job description (i.e. MBA boomers)

>>105694288
they absolutely don't have to do it. Also banks don't want to hire this way, you only get in through connections.

>>105694318
>connections
You're right about that

>>105692034
This lmao. My team thought I was a wizard for building a simple bar chart thing from HTML, JS and CSS. They were talking about importing libraries to draw some colored divs, it's pathetic.
Frontend is where it's at if you just want to chill. Easy work and looks impressive to your non-tech managers who think you're working hard.

>>105694289
>do something cobol tier but for fucking google
>after doing something normally reserved for 101 level EE courses
it was a fake interview for a fake job

>>105692408
>>105692448
goes to show how learning """""fundamentals""""" and practicing leetcode challenges poisons your brain
you couldn't manage to do anything practical because you spent too much time studying algorithms and data structures
notice how your job title is not """""Computer Scientist"""""

>>105693833
Both of those are things I did while bored in college. Maybe I should apply to capital one, their recruiter emailed me and I ghosted them because I didn't feel like it.

>>105694345
I saw how easy frontend wows managers. Meanwhile, all the backend work I did, no one cared.

>>105693833
Those sound easy. You just need more practice. CodeSignal rotates their questions every couple weeks so just make a new email and take it again

By the way Capital One is a shitty place to work, it's like Amazon culture without the pay or prestige. Imagine getting stack ranked and PIPed for only $140k a year

>>105694490
Did you hear how they got Lego Island running in the browser?

>>105694504
>Amazon
>Prestige
Lol I probably have more prestige working for Cisco at this point.

>>105694514
I also have a low opinion of Amazon but normies will at least think you're a genius for working at a FAGMAN and you can't deny it's a resume boost. How many people even know what Capital One is?

>>105694526
>How many people even know what Capital One is?
uhh everyone? wtf. is this a euro or jeet anon?

>>105694539
The fuck, is capital one actually well known?
I only know it because a) I'm in tech b) they keep sending me spam credit cards. I've never heard of someone who actually uses their products

>>105694526
capital one is huge in the US, i'm not even american and even i know about it (and that it's garbage and even amex, discover, and --allah forgive me-- chase manhattan are superior)

>>105694565
afaik it's mostly retarded boomers who think credit is free money and insanely poor people who pay off credit cards with other credit cards

>>105694565
Their Venture X card is a favorite among techbro cardmaxxers.

>>105694608
>cardmaxxers
Do americans really?

>>105694567
>>105694594
>>105694608
Ok I'm living under a rock I guess. I'll take that back

>>105694565
Just about everyone in the US knows what Capital One is. No one knows about their software engineers though, so it's not much of a resume boost.

>>105694627
It's actually based. American credit cards have the highest merchant fees and interest, but also the highest rewards. Once you're making a decent tech salary, you can easily get $1000 worth of travel rewards making purchases you'd make normally like groceries, gas and even rent. My annual trip to Tokyo is paid for by the bottom quartile of Americans stuck in perpetual credit card debt.

>>105694526
My man…

>>105694298
You haven't described any field at all. All you've said is R&D (which means nothing without more context), "this sort of work", and a vague reference to physics and electronics engineering. That could mean anything

Uh bros? wtf happened to the job market? When are the jobs coming back?

>>105694812
Probably it's time to quit. By the time they come back (if ever) you will be irrelevant

>>105694771
Enjoy Tokyo you cunt I needed that 200 dollars

>>105694812
all outsourced to Bangalesh, india.

>>105694771
>it's okay i spend an extra 20% on everything i buy and have voluntarily entered the Hyperbolic Debt Tesseract, in 75 years i'll get enough reward points to get a free 32" tv!

>>105694812
>he didnt stockpile company secrets (like root passwords and tokens) locally
this is what needs to be done in case of mass tech layoffs desu
i dont think the credentials i have are still good from my last job, they were a pretty big company and pretty keen on replacing passwords every 6 months

>>105694959
they have vpns and stuff now though. just clone your work access pass and take a hammer to the telecomms room

>>105694567
Discover is not in fact superior. I know this because they were actually reticently bought by Capital One.

god working in fagman fucking sucks. What a bunch of fucking losers I work with who couldn't deliver a successful project if their life depended on it. Only slop that technically meets some of the stated requirements on paper but it doesn't actually solve the problem properly or it turns into an operational nightmare. All the while jerking each other off over massive scale and low latency and bla bla bla until they actually have to deliver something and then the truth comes out that it's just a bunch of slop. And the "leadership" who don't do jack shit themselves besides sending sternly worded Slack messages rewards this behavior because they themselves are either utterly incompetent or just don't care about the ultimate goal that our jobs exist to accomplish, only the stupid goals they've written down in their little performance management system. It's just a giant scheme of grifters and so you need to grift too or else you'll just get booted out because you can only rarely accomplish anything meaningful in such an environment

sometimes I spin an apple in my head just because some people can't do it

>Ackshully pwograming require lots of communication hehe
No, it really doesn't you're just a faggot who can't define requirements and give me a spec so you make me do your job for you you overpaid, glorified secretary grifter agile was a mistake

I'm in OMSCS trying to make a career change. My ex-fiancée's dad just sent me a link to a news article about how there's no jobs for CS grads and AI is taking over, saying he thought of me when he read this. I think he meant well, but, uh.. yea that doesn't feel very good.. thanks for sharing...

>Be me
>using linux for ages
>now company embraced microshit corposlop
>tried running winshit as vm, did not work well
>byod on every device is a must
>somebody blocked linux despite byod crap exists for linux
>apparently due to security reasons
>"If had needed to install some security updates remotely"
>forced to install win 10
>unable to access company email on no other browser than fucking edge
>forced to install win 11 later this year

Can these faggots techbros already roll a fucking ai that takes my job? I cant stand this fucking shit

>>105695137
faang reminds me of wwe. they hire wrestlers so no other company can take them, but will leave them employed but not doing anything. thats how it sounds like employees do at places like that from what I keep hearing.

>>105695230
That's the problem. If you end up in a place like this you have to invent something to do that you can convince others that is valuable or else they get rid of you. I'd love to just do nothing, but that's not an option. I, too, am now building shit that doesn't make any sense to me and will likely be abandoned within 2 years, just so I can continue to justify my existence here to the management apparatus. You end up working 50 hours a week to deliver nothing of importance, if there is nothing actually important to do

>>105695230
>Bro got roofed

>>105695255
sounds just like the inevitable end of our fiat based system. a whole lot of nothing with money that is free

>>105695255
>>105695225

i work for large corporation in europe. currently rewriting stufff that is running on some oracle forms and mainframe to spring boot.

Its total mess, but that fucking mainframe dont even have datatypes in its storage. Around 120 employees are already using this app daily. but they still have to rely on older systems which is the goal to clean this technical debt.

I never saw this shit like "lets spend 2 years developing nothing and then kill the project" over here. Maybe its because we branch where i work dont hire any jeets. Its just slavs and some italians.

>>105693330
Real burnout? Nope.

Being unmotivated due to lack of reward? Yes.

>>105695064
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PP7WJL2JtLs

Ok so what industries are actually layoff proof and have tech jobs?

>>105695329
artificial sex with creatures (breeding by "live cover" is dangerous, finnicky, and does not expose much meaningful data other than the footage of breeding sold to degenerates; innovations to improve safety of handlers and proper accounting of bloodlines are always welcome in the agricultural sector)

>>105693833
They want you to use a second setup to ChatGPT all of these leetcode style problems asap.

>>105694959
If I leak some of the stuff I have access to I get the full intelligence apparatus going after me. Not really an option.

>>105695329
Nothing is really layoff proof. Healthcare would be a good one though. Once you get in it'll be hard to get out and there is always going a lot of money into it. Probably more right now due to the aging population problem.

>>105695370
>They want you to use a second setup to ChatGPT all of these leetcode style problems asap.
You have to have the webcam stay on and your screen is shared. It's their way of combatting cheaters. But I feel fucking insulted to be treated like a jeet.

>>105695302
Nobody says "lets spend 2 years developing nothing and then kill the project"
You deliver a project over the course of 6 months to a year. Around the 3 month mark you'll have a pilot targeting some subset of the data as a test. Around the 6 month-1 year mark the project is fully functional. Around the 2 year mark, people realize that the issue it was meant to solve wasn't truly solved, so they come up with a new take on solving the problem that is a totally different solution than the original project. Hence, it gets killed.

>>105695430
sounds like shitty middle management

>>105695468
The only management that managers do is ask for status updates so they can report it to their own managers. Or when they get an issue reported to them they'll ask the team "guys we just got escalated this issue from the VP. What should we do?" They barely understand anything about the software we're building and supporting here

>>105695503
I guess its different culture at faang. all middlemanagement i had to ever work with were usually former programmers, sysadmins etc (with only one exception)

>>105695370
>I get the full intelligence apparatus going after me
we literally shared company secrets and you'd be an idiot to try to pull shit from your home network (assuming you are WFH)
load them onto a burner laptop stashed away somewhere and just be the one of many people working out of the starbucks lobby except you arent in the lobby you're outside in your car using a signal booster or something

What stuff at these places is even worth exfultrating? If I were a competitor I would pay money to *not* have the code I work on.

>>105695651
billing information, mostly

>>105695350
I appreciate your unhinged post, Anon. Thanks.

>>105695651
Honestly, yeah. Most proprietary code is an infohazard which should be disposed of properly. It's genuinely harmful to read.

>>105695706
im unhinged but im honest. techbro wannabes sleep on the unique challenges of anything that isn't either fintech or "how do we make a train but worse"

you could make a pocket pussy for BIG BLVCK BVLLS(literal) but worse

>>105691661
Perhaps you could use your law degree to run Jeets out of this country on a chutney-greased rail?

what is the best little easter egg you guys added in your job?

i added the konami code inside the 'about' page that and it spawns a button that opens doom

You have printed this out, haven't you anon?

>>105696278
ur a tranny irl

>>105696416
it's printed on my soul

“The Aryans in India were too late in establishing their colour‑based caste system, so that today the culture of the Hindoo is probably the most thoroughly repulsive on our planet. The more one learns about India, the more one wants to vomit. Aside from a few profound minds, the Indian people represent such an abyss of degeneracy that extirpation & fumigation would seem to be about the only way to make Hindoostan fit for decent people to inhabit.”

—H.P.Lovecraft, letter to J.Vernon Shea, 25September1933

I work remote and I want to move to NYC or San Francisco. I want to experience living in a big city. Which one should I go for?

On one hand, I want to eventually get a job in big tech/the bay area, so maybe moving to SF would help me network. It's also marginally cheaper, and the weather/nature is much better.
On the other hand, NYC is the most "big city" big city in the world. There's much more art/culture, there are way more things to do, the dating scene is much, MUCH better, almost incomparably so. And the food is cheaper and better. And it's much more of a 24 hour city. And I may never have to opportunity to live in NYC again.

>>105695225
Install the OS they tell you to install, tardo. I would expect a MSfag or an OSXfag to get used to unix if they're using that too.

I applied to some customer/tech support job and I have some AI interview thrown at me. I didn't know people live like this, are there any tips for dealing with Sapia AI, or should I treat this like a regular job interview?

>>105696824
i just hang up when i realize it's an ai interview

>>105696858
The interview is online with no time limit, so the only relevant thing I can hang right now is my neck

>>105696724
come to nyc, move to brooklyn

>>105696724
A few points. NYC has less of a tech presence than the San Francisco Bay area generally speaking. But the city of San Francisco itself is moreso startups (also "startups" with hundreds of millions in funding, not just talking about startups startups) whereas FAGMAN and other large companies tend to be more spread out through the south bay up to an hour or more outside of SF, e.g. Meta, Google, Netflix, Apple. Living in south bay outside of SF isn't interesting, it's pretty suburban. Big tech does have a presence in NYC but less so than the bay area or Seattle, in general. Btw don't come to Seattle, it really sucks. I've lived in both Seattle and south bay and neither are exciting or interesting in the slightest except you'll see a lot of Teslas, chinks, and jeets.

>>105696866
>with no time limit
Not having a time limit doesn't mean that time taken isn't judged.

>>105696960
Oh, and I wouldn't move to these areas unless and until I got a job there. It's just not that exciting, champ.

>>105696921
Downtown Brooklyn? Seems like studio pods in the general vicinity are $1600-1700 which isn't too bad. I've been checking online and it seems like similar apartments in Manhattan are smaller/shittier or $2k+. Not sure if that tradeoff is worth it.

>>105696960
>>105696967
My plan is to move somewhere for 2-3 years, build experience, then apply/beg for a big tech job in the bay area.
I do not want to spend the next 2-3 years of my life living where I do now. I've already wasted enough time.

I'm so fucking tired of being on the phone with people who I can barely understand.

>>105697047
needful status?

>>105696961
That's also very true, that's a great call, thank you. I'll maybe do it all tomorrow, I'm waiting for feedback/advice beforehand, but I'm hoping to get through all of the questions soon. There seem to be quite a few vids by and for pajeets for this specific company and its questions though. So either that's a great sign that this is passable, or that it's a bad sign that I'll have 50 competitors who look great on paper

>>105697039
I will say I really enjoy the weather and my lifestyle (if I didn't have this stressful job to deal with) in the bay. It's modern, chill, and there's some pretty good outdoorsy/hiking destinations in the vicinity or even just a 15 minute car ride from where I live. Just a shame a starter home costs $1.2 million+ so I don't plan on staying here for more than another 5 years or so

>>105697092
>1.2 million+
Edit: closer to 2 million+ where I live, I literally can't find anything cheaper but then I also live in prime big tech worker living territory

>>105697039
not downtown brooklyn. bedstuy, bushwick, williamsburg, greenpoint. you can prolly get a studio in bushwick for 1.7k. if you want a 1bedroom at that price, you'll need a roommate

>>105697104
I don't know why people like to exaggerate like this. You know anyone can open up zillow, right?

>>105695225
Wait, so they're forcing you to bring your own device and at the same time making demands of what OS you run? Fucking lol.

>>105697172
I don't need a 1br but damn, I can't find any apartments in those places in that price range.

>>105697247
ye you'll prolly need 1 roommate at least for a $1600 budget

>>105697195
Yeah, that's what I'm basing it on.
https://www.zillow.com/sunnyvale-ca/houses/?searchQueryState=%7B%22pagination%22%3A%7B%7D%2C%22isMapVisible%22%3Atrue%2C%22mapBounds%22%3A%7B%22west%22%3A-122.24678396728515%2C%22east%22%3A-121.80115103271484%2C%22south%22%3A37.27558242021038%2C%22north%22%3A37.518603340100405%7D%2C%22regionSelection%22%3A%5B%7B%22regionId%22%3A54626%2C%22regionType%22%3A6%7D%5D%2C%22filterState%22%3A%7B%22sort%22%3A%7B%22value%22%3A%22globalrelevanceex%22%7D%2C%22tow%22%3A%7B%22value%22%3Afalse%7D%2C%22mf%22%3A%7B%22value%22%3Afalse%7D%2C%22con%22%3A%7B%22value%22%3Afalse%7D%2C%22land%22%3A%7B%22value%22%3Afalse%7D%2C%22apa%22%3A%7B%22value%22%3Afalse%7D%2C%22manu%22%3A%7B%22value%22%3Afalse%7D%2C%22apco%22%3A%7B%22value%22%3Afalse%7D%2C%22price%22%3A%7B%22max%22%3A1500000%7D%2C%22mp%22%3A%7B%22max%22%3A7681%7D%7D%2C%22isListVisible%22%3Atrue%2C%22mapZoom%22%3A12%2C%22usersSearchTerm%22%3A%22Sunnyvale%20CA%22%7D

I regularly run around the neighborhood and pull up random houses on Zillow. I haven't found a single one below 2 million and I've probably checked around 30 so far

>>105695230
It'a fake. The white people have to work 12 hours a day. The H1Bs too. Trannies, niggers and w*men (i.e. dicersity hires) only need to exist and do nothing all day though.

>>105695503
you're lucky. Many micromanage

>>105695536
Definitely not the case at m$.

>>105695163
You can't even put a coherent sentence together. You'd probably misunderstand a simple spec and fuck it up without supervision.

>>105697645
poo in loo, not in thread

>>105695225
I got handed a corporate IT Windows laptop in my current work. I took some time getting used to, but since they're paying me to use Windows it's ok in my book. I get my work done on Linux virtual machines.

>>105697047
hi anon
quick connect?

>>105697562
>open zillow link
>multiple houses for sale under 2 million

Have you ever been drinking while working from home?
I think I'll try it. Maybe will make the work day more fun.

>>105698264
do it return to office. makes emotion regulating so much easier ironically.

>>105698264
Don't tell the boss but I drink water while in the office too.

>>105697562
homes around me are in the 200k-450k range

i used justicemap.org to pick one that was far from... nonwhite people

i've been here for 3 years now, working remote on an acre of land on whats meant to be the home i die in (i hate moving)
i just started an orchard, which i will keep expanding upon. A few days ago i picked like, 4 cups of blackberries; nothing planted, there are just wild patches on the property

>>105698438
>homes around me are in the 200k-450k range
oh and by this, i mean for the properties im interested in that have a good amount of land. you can easily get a house for cheaper if you dont want the land. im a 30 min drive from the middle of the city (population: 300k)

>>105698438
what's with the racebaiting all the fucking damn time on this site

>>105698447
>racebaiting
stating i used a website to plan my permanent residence based of ethnic demographics isnt "racebaiting"; i made no attacks or accusations on the basis of race

>>105698461
yes that's called baiting and you're doing it on the basis of race.

>>105698447
You're welcome to go back to r*ddit where talk of wanting to avoid different races is banned.

>>105698489
this isn't a safe space, i'm purely just asking what's with the racebaiting? :3

>>105698500
Why wouldn't there be racism on 4chan? Where do you think you are?

>>105698508
we're all a little bit racist, it's true

>>105689704
Basado. Greetings from the whitest poster ITT

>>105692809
>I truly don't understand this culture.
Its like a bunch of children pretending to be adults and behaving in a way their kiddie mind thinks adult life is like.

Just abysmal low IQ. Median jeet IQ is unironically lower Africans. I think only abbos have a lower median

>>105689562
I had no idea people were seriously using notebooks in enterprise settings. That's crazy.

>>105696960
It doesn't matter where you live and you should avoid places that demand you live nearby.

>>105698264
once, many years ago, during a massive crunch. downing a beer or two kinda allowed me to keep my sanity, and keep going for another hour of two.
but riding ballmer's peak is a horrible practice, wouldn't recommend on a regular basis.

>>105698475
according to the definition of "race-baiting" by merriam-webster, i did not engage in race-baiting
so... stay mad i guess...?

>>105698594
It's not only a thing, it's state of the art. I worked for a company that packaged notebooks into production apps, run like cron jobs and connecting to dashboards. They made mad cash because every company works like that.

you weebs are so weird

>>105698744
im diagnosed with autism (aspergers a decade ago but isnt that the same as autism now? its at least 'on the spectrum')

>>105695225
shit like this made me quit 2 jobs already
using my own equipment is now a hard requirement for joining a company

>>105698764
I bet there's nothing wrong with you.

>>105699127
this.
Every """diagnosed""" """autist""" ever.

>>105699127
i think there are things wrong with me (mentally)

>>105699224
1, 2, 3, and 4 aren't wrong with you anon.

>>105695225
You will always work with winblows.

It can get even worse:

> have a company outlook mail without my origin prefix ("de" in front of last name)
> New IT guy who had previous experience working in .... a supermarket as checkout clerk thought it would be great to include the prefix

> multiple authenticators stop working, multiple services including HR systems are inaccessible , some stuff I didn't even know about like company phone was tied to the old mail
> Supermarket employee gets laid off during probation since he gets into conflicts with manager (not because he's actually shit)
> Am left to fix all of the password clusterfucks myself over a period of 1-2 months and still sometimes encounter problems where things have been set up with the old mail

Never change people their mails even if it includes a spelling error because this shit has been insufferable. I lost a company phone recently and was unable to locate it since the location services were tied to the old email address.

>>105698438
Same am probably going to live remotely somewhere in Germoney. I got 150k euros saved up working the last 3 years (living with parents). It should be enough to buy something remotely and get an affordable mortgage. I just have a relationship and Idk what to do with it. If I include the money from the other side its more like 400-500k to spend on housing but I'm not sure if I want to tie all my luck onto the BPD case that I decided to date 5 years ago.

>go on linkedin to see if any connections have job updates
>30 posts about the most basic bitch tech shit
>see name
>indian
why?

>>105699503
Is this a Drowning Pool reference?

>>105699817
Yes.

I think it's over for me. These email rejections are demotivating as fuck. I'm a senior engineer who can't even get a job, and the few interviews I got, they are either slow or haven't gotten back to me. And with my increasing gap, they'll think something is wrong with me that I've been out of the job market this long.

>>105699943
How long is the gap?
If you're worried about questions on what you're doing, then start a side project that you're "working on" turning into a business. You just have to register a domain and put up a landing page. The project/idea isn't that important, but you should be able to talk about something you're learning from it.

>>105699982
6 months.I'm working on a project atm and keeping my study up with some books, so I at least got that going. I also have my own website of stuff. I just think my city "Dallas" is dead for engineering jobs. But with all the indians around, it makes sense. I think I'll have to move for new work.

>>105700086
I was unemployed for 14 months, so it's not over. But, I do live in a more tech-centric area so that probably helped.

jeet team leads are encouraging us to use google code asist to improve productivity

>>105700203
fuck jeets

>Dude be sure to take my survey it only takes 45 minutes to go through 125 questions!!
>No you don't get paid for it
>Also be sure to check out my other surveys that also take an hour to complete that you don't get paid for!
>Oh my science!

What kind of idiots with no lives are filling these out.

The tech lead's skin was the color of shit, loosened by caffeine

>stuck in consultancy hell
>below average pay, no benefits and practically zero new technologies to add to CV
>get assigned an extremely boring 3 month long task
>get chewed out by upper management for not logging my hours on time on one of the THREE time logging tools despite having the other two up to date
>pissed off, log in to linkedin to browse offers
>see post for a project where I am basically a perfect fit
>one of the requisites is being open to learn some technologies that I am already learning on my own on my free time
>send CV
>immediate call
>say an above average number when asked about salary
>they immediately agree
>technical interview tomorrow morning

I know it's not good to get excited before receiving the formal offer but holy shit I hope this goes well

>>105697214
I work as a "contractor". It's due to tax evasion in my country.

>>105700928
>>105700928
>>105700928

>>105699546
13 YOE including microsoft.
Never had to work with wangblows in any way