AMD Radeon 9070 XT Geforce RTX Edition


>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICE.
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Provide specific use cases.
State BUDGET and COUNTRY or you will NOT be helped.
Building guide: https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Build_a_PC

>CASE
mATX: Asus Prime AP201, Lian Li A3, O11 Air Mini
ATX: Phanteks XT PRO (ULTRA), Montech AIR 903 Base/MAX, Lian Li Lancool 207, Antec C8, Antec Flux Pro, Corsair 4000D FRAME
Dual Chamber: Y70, Y60, Y40, Vision / Vision Compact

>CPU
Budget: 7600/X
Gaming: 9800X3D
Workstation: 9950X, 9900X, 265/K
Intel: If their CPU offers better value through discounts and/or bundles

>COOLER
AIO: Thermalright Frozen Edge, Arctic Liquid Freezer III
Double towers: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE V3, Noctua NH-D15 G2
ITX/>42mm RAM: Scythe Mugen 6 Dual Fan/TR AXP120-X67

>MOTHERBOARD
AVOID: ASRock AM5 boards are still susceptible to damaging Ryzen 9000 CPUs (damage to 7000 CPU is less reported).


>RAM
DDR4: 2x16GB 3200CL16
DDR5: 2x16GB 6000CL30 (AMD), 6400CL32 (Intel)
Workstation/high end: consider 2x32GB

>SSD (OS drive)
Budget: SN580, SN770
Better: Check reviews

>GPU (decide based on local pricing & features preference)
Budget: Arc B580,
Mid range: RX 9060 XT 16GB, 5060Ti 16GB
High-performance 1440p / Mid-range 4K: RX 9070 XT, RTX 5070 Ti
High-end 4K: That card.
Workstation: RTX 5090

>PSU
Budget: Gold-rated 500-600W PSU
High end: Seasonic PRIME TX
PSU buying guide:
https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/ (updated Q4 2024)

>MONITOR
1080p: MSI G244F E2
1440p: ASRock PG27QFT2A,
4K: Gigabyte M28U, Acer Nitro XV275K, Samsung Odyssey OLED G8

>OS
Activate Windows @ >>> >>105657591 (Cross-thread)

>CASE FANS
Meta: Case with good stock PWM fans
Mid range: Arctic P12/P14 (Max) (5-pack)
High end: Noctua NF-A12x25, Noctua NF-A14x25 G2

Perv: >>105683597

>>105692769
It's set to 2933mhz. Stupid question but what is the point of having four RAM slots and then it being worse to use 4x vs 2x? I know it doesn't run as quad channel and is just two up dual channel, although I don't know the real technical differences of that.

Why does moving my mouse onto the YouTube playback UI cause my CPU temps to spike from 30c to 70c?

>>105692831
>It's set to 2933mhz
that's fine then, if it's using the timings from the XMP profile
>Stupid question but what is the point of having four RAM slots and then it being worse to use 4x vs 2x?
capacity is more important for many workloads
and it's not always worse, i'm running 4x8 3733 on ryzen 5000 no problem, but that's not happening on 1st or 2nd gen
>>105692851
pajeet code deluxe

>>105692830
Ahhhhh I guess I should have read the settings more carefully. I see now there are distinctive options for DLSS frame generation ande super sampling.

>>105692806 (OP)
The fuck is up with that card?

Is there a story to this?

5080 msi suprim
or the asus tuf?

>>105692903
https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/1lfjsyj/ah_yes_the_amd_radeon_geforce_rtx_9070_xt/

>building a fanless desktop computer as a NAS
Feasible or ridiculous?

Context
>want NAS
>for various things but nothing heavy, probably idle 99% of the time
>array is currently made up of 4x 2TB 2.5" disks
>use old laptop, mix of internal bays and USB
>so far so good
>but fan is always going no matter what
>old Sandy bridge CPU, doesn't have modern efficiency features so fan is going at a certain base level all the time no matter what (yes thermal paste is good and recently refreshed, and fan/heatsink part is new too)
>don't want fan going 24/7. (a) it's not needed, idle 99% of time. (b) unnecessary 24/7 of moving part which isn't designed to be used 24/7. theoretical fire risk. (c) surprisingly annoying noise
>unplug fan from motherboard
>it works, temps barely any higher
>but boot problems. comes up with "Fan error" and won't boot
>only way around is to physically be at computer on boot/reboot and press Esc immediately
>it's a NAS and disconnected from outside net so it will hardly ever be rebooted, but still, annoying that reboots can't be done from afar, whether across local network or from outside of network
>look at chink fanless mini PCs with maximum USB ports as an alternative
>theyre not actually as cheap as i expected for what you get, esp those with ancient CPUs. kinda feel like a scam. also they are focused on lots of ethernet ports and com ports which are irrelevant to me. And they don't seem to have TPM modules - i like to encrypt all OSs.
>so, crazy thought...get around all these restrictions by building my own fanless NAS PC

How crazy is this idea?
Either a big giant desktop type where all the disks will be in the case (current array is 4 disks, but i want expansion room to at least 8 disks)
Or something smaller, something mini but ensuring adequate USB ports/bandwidth in order to attach all disks by USB

reminder that wattage is heat and to check that your shit isn't stuck at like 200w idle because of some bug, misconfiguration or dogshit bloatware

I got all of my parts 27% cheaper buying from e-bay, USA and shipping it right into a caucasus, post-soviet shithole country instead of buying it in local markets.
Fuck the government fuck the "Small business" mafias fuck the taxes kek!

>>105692903
>>105692924
There's also an ASUS TUF GeForce Radeon 5070 Ti.
ASUS gives no fucks.
https://www.reddit.com/r/ASUS/comments/1koxbgt/brand_new_asus_tuf_geforce_rtx_5070ti_says_radeon/

>>105692960
I hope they all work fren. Sending them back would probably be a hassle right?

>>105692960
didn't get raped by customs? that's what usually makes that play impossible in my shithole

>>105692924
>>105692976
Genuinely why return it? Wouldn't it be worth more for collectors

>>105693015
>'Collecting' computer hardware

>>105693015
retarded consoombug needs his correct brand allegiance displayed properly

>>105693031
i LOVEd that movie as a kid

>>105692904
Neither, not paying omega scalped prices for a 16GB card.

Should I buy an overkill cooler for the 7600x? I heard that amd cpu boost to whatever the thermal head room allow them to and the better cooling the better performance?

>>105693031
WHAT DID YOU CALL ME?

>>105693043
WHAT DID YOU CALL ME?

>>105693080
love it

>>105692946
>don't want fan going 24/7. (a) it's not needed, idle 99% of time. (b) unnecessary 24/7 of moving part which isn't designed to be used 24/7. theoretical fire risk. (c) surprisingly annoying noise
Fans constantly running at a set RPM is fine, it's the speed changes that cause more friction and wear.
Get an affordable noise-optimized fan.

>>105693063
I wouldn't bother with the 50-series and/or Nvidia, at least not until they get their prices under control.

The trick to getting a card at MSRP is to purchase whatever card within a week or two of release, at least as far as Micro Center is concerned. I picked up both an Arc B570 and RX 9060 XT at MSRP because I either bought them at launch or shortly after before the retail decided to jack up the prices.

>FYI this is my last GMD reaction pic

>>105693124
I can only find Nvidia cards at msrp in Europe but once a while we cet heavily discounted AMD cards.

>>105693064
I wouldn't pay more than a Peerless Assassin SE 120 V3 if you're in the US.
You could also look at Arctic's official B-stock LF3 360s on eBay if you want an AIO (six-year warranty provided).
https://www.ebay.com/itm/356354432929
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-5-7600x/18.html

>>105693101
This

For a long time, I was infatuated with doing a completely passive computer--including the PSU, but ended up realizing that having at least one single, low-RPM fan would drastically reduce temps.

You may have to spring for Noctua or BeQuiet fans, and/or get appropriate low-noise resistors, and put your computer anywhere but on your desk right next to your fucking head.

Coil whine sucks too, though, so try to get a quality PSU since it's usually the cheap ones that cause your graphics cards to squeal.

>>105693124
based basil bro

>5070 ti SUPER
when will it drop?

>>105693201
Who knows, NVIDIA might even skip that refresh because the 5070 Ti already overclocks well and it has 16GB of VRAM.

i have an old barely used evga 1070 ti that runs flawlessly, you think anyone would buy it and for how much?

>>105692946
Yeah it's perfectly feasible. Low power CPU+IGP with a P1 or similar big passive cooler and you're basically done. I agree with the other anon though that having a single fan in there makes the temp control way easier. Were it me (with no budget constraints) I'd run a big case with 2x 200mm fans in front and a passive CPU cooler. Enough airflow to keep the internals fresh but still basically inaudible.

Guys, for a 4790k the stock cooler aint doing good. If i run prime95 it skyrockets to 90+ and the system freezes and shuts down as a safety thing against overheating.

Will the ''ID-Cooling SE-214-XT ARGB'' be great for it, it's 24€?

(The reason is because it's a 10yo system and the h100 pump half died because sometimes it would work and other times it would not after years of being shut down and unplugged.)

>>105692806 (OP)
>AMD Radeon 9070 XT Geforce RTX Edition
kek did the guy get it like that from the factory? That's funny.

>>105693249
Probably lucky to get $100 out of it. Sell it asap.

>>105693265
Yeah it'll do fine. People used to OC those things to 4.6 with a 212+.

>>105692960

>>105693310
guess i'll buy one and cope with my 10yo pc, being poor is kinda meh

>>105693377
Yeah wouldn't recommend it. Still, at least you'll have a working PC.

>>105693201
I would not be surprised if it's within the year. Nvidia are racing through this series. It's making me very suspicious that they either have new shit coming or nothing at all coming.

>>105693630
Seeing as RTX 50 is a refresh gen it's plausible that they're going this fast because they can - most of the work is already done and the dev teams are well-familiar with the architecture. There could also be a mundane technical reason like improving yields.

When will Monster Hunter Wilds not run like shit

can somebody buy my 4k monitor from me? I'm broke.

>>105692904
>5080
hahahaha

>>105693799
give it back

>>105692946
just make sure you buy the right parts. there are special heatsinks and cases for fanless setups.
make sure your room is well ventilated though.

wow

>>105692976
>trust AIB "quality control" they say
>they have a reputation to uphold they say
AIBs are a joke

>>105693064
you could use literally anything on a 7600x.
I wouldn't spend more than $60 on a dual tower air cooler from thermalright, deepcool, or a similar brand.

>>105693807
excuse me saar, I did the needful and made a standard purchase from the Amazon.
really I just want to drop to 1440p though.

What browser is the best? Firefox is too slow. Brave has corruption issues. Chrome uses too much CPU.

>>105693799
>>105693883
Which 4K monitor model? Try selling it on Facebook Marketplace, eBay, or Craigslist.

>>105693943
>Firefox is too slow
https://github.com/yokoffing/Betterfox

>>105693772
Buy a 5090

>>105693883
>I just want to drop to 1440p though.
What's the issue with 4k? Can't you just use upscaling when it comes to vidya?

>>105693943
buy a better cpu and use chrome until ublock stops working

>>105693943
Try Zen. It's Firefox with vertical tabs. They also employ a bunch of optimizations that the Mozzila team is too afraid to turn on because of legacy reasons and "stabilitty".

I need a new AIO, because my current one, galahad 2, has a loud fan and the lcd screen is flickering.
I saw Prism, Edge and Freezer 3 in the recommendations, and a I want to ask how reliable are their fans, how easy is to replace them and which is the most quiet of them.

The case I am using is Lancool 207.

Should I buy a new case?
Any downside if I just keep it this way?

can I buy a 9070 xt yet or is it still retarded?

I don't think there's any room for more fans bros...

Hello retard here, its my psu.
https://files.catbox.moe/p5xp6b.mp4
When in the case, the noise it makes when the fans slow down is constant. Im guessing its just just never apinning correctly. I thought it was coil whine and ignored it for a whole day. Its a MAG A850GL pcie5. Is it just completely fucked or can a fan replacement fix it. Not too poor so if it's best to get a new gpu I can.

>>105694122
Having it outside the case is actually better for the temps. Only get a new case that can fit that for aesthetic reasons.

Hotspot temperatures are kinda weird. The edge temperature barely rises, around 60-61, but the hotspot fluctuates quite a bit between 88-95.
It's a 9070XT.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/72xzdb

Thoughts?

>planing to build this $5k 1kw space heater on Prime Day (but the 4090 is just a spaceholder on this list for an as-yet unavailable 5090 at the same price).

>>105694145
push/pull the AIO

>>105694189
for AMD that's low, RDNA routinely hits 100C hotspots

>>105694193
>wait for prime day last year
>prices went up for everything on my wishlist
I'm sure things will be better this year

Maybe not the best thread, but I want to recreate couch multiplayer by running LAN games in VM’s and then passing through different controllers to each VM. Is this possible?

>>105694152
yeah never had any problems with the temp ever since I left the rad outside.
Should I just buy a bracket for it mount it outside?
Had to dremel the mesh to let it out lol

>>105694232
yes but it's more /hsg/ territory
sounds like that'd need multiple GPUs

>>105694109
Buy the B-stock (open box) Liquid Freezer 3 on Arctic USA's official eBay account (around $45, 6-year warranty).
Replace the P12s with the new Noctua NF A12x25 G2 ($35 x3 kek).
You'll be running a Noctua AIO before it's even out.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/356354432929

>>105694263
>buy a bracket for it mount it outside
That wouldn't be a bad idea, you wouldn't need to worry about it falling over.

>>105694148
Sounds defective, can you return the PSU and get a refund?
Corsair RMx 850W is reliable.

>>105692806 (OP)
So IF Nvidia releases a 24gb 5080 by the end of the year. When is the most likely time they'll announce it?

>>105694307
September or December

>>105694263
At that point, I would suggest getting a test bench instead of a case.
Streacom makes nice test benches that look good.
They're expensive for what they are though.
>t. using BC1 Mini on my ITX setup.

>DHL strike
kys

>>105694211
I don't understand how that's safe. But I don't understand much about silicon and chips either.

>>105694193
9900X will run like a slightly better-clocked 9600X in gaymen.
5600MT/s JEDEC memory speed & timing are very suboptimal for gaymen, strongly recommended to stick with DDR5 1DPC set up for gaymen.
That 620M won't have the slots to fit both a 5090 and a sound card + network adapter.

The only Noctua fans worth paying the premium are the NF-A12x25 G2, NF-A14x25 G2, and the NF-A12x25 chromax.black (if you don't want Noctua brown fans).

>>105694225
Thanks, looks like Prime Day's priced in, so I'll order now.

... But is it a good build? Future proof do-it-all box.

>>105694341
You'll notice something's wrong if the card's performance is thermally throttling.
Check benchmarks & in-game performance.
No throttling & fans not running at max RPM = you're fine.

>>105694300
no returns. darn. thanks man.

>>105694351
Thanks, but I can always bump up the voltage from stock 1.1v to like1.3v for faster timing & latency.

Look at the slot layout; the top pcie is a x1, and it is above the pciex16... Also, the onboard 2.5g Ethernet leaves no need for a networking card (has $16 m.2 WiFi 6e too).

Thank you.

Wonder what the excuse will be for not putting 10G on $300+ mobos
https://www.tomshardware.com/networking/realteks-usd10-tiny-10gbe-network-adapter-is-coming-to-motherboards-later-this-year

>>105694425
DDR5 memory is notoriously difficult to OC with 4x DIMMs.
And those Crucial (Micron ICs) kits aren't good OCers even with a 2x DIMM config.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-LqWdvoFLY

>>105693630
>they either have new shit coming or nothing at all coming
Yes those are the two possibilities.

which one is better

>>105694481
they will
and now those mobos will be $400
but of course if you want the holy grail, the most valuable, expensive, price raising shit, the glorious 7 segment display, that'll be $500 minimum

>>105694269
Thanks man.

>>105694505
Asus makes shitty AMD cards. Asrock is really the only choice out of the two here.

>>105694505
They're both decently rated.
Steel Legend is a bit bigger (2.9 slot vs 2.5), it possibly might have the larger heatsink.
ASUS Prime has dual BIOS (quiet/performance).

>>105694505
Why does Asrock keep using that ugly ass design

>>105694554
They have a Peter Pan for a graphics card, motherboard, and PSU shroud designer.

>>105694341
These TSMC chips are designed to run in hot server rooms. 110c is the limit for both Ryzen and Radeon but they set safety limits even sooner they begin pulling back clocks around 95-100c.

>>105692903
Can't you see how Assus cheaped out on heatsink surface? The big frame could house much more.

>>105692904
> 5080 msi suprim
Too expensive for just 16GB. Get a 5070 Ti instead.

>>105694554
you know, I bought the card because it was the cheapest, but I don't hate the design. It looks like a toy from the pictures but IRL it's actually ok.

>>105693201
Never, you can buy a 5070 Ti now.

>>105693943
firefox is the only option because chromium based browsers are killed thanks to brave. adblocks don't work on them anymore.

>>105693985
28" 4k, it's posted already.
>>105693985
I don't want to use desktop scaling. waste to have a large monitor to then delete the extra space by using scaling.

>>105694681
retard tagged the same post twice instead of tagging >>105693962

>>105694505
>>105694548
Out of the cheap trio:
- ASUS Prime
- AsRock Steel Legend
- Gigabyte Gaming OC

The Gigabyte is the only one with a vapor chamber. Apparently it can get really low hotspot temperatures but that thing sounds like a jet engine. Gigabyte took advantage of the vapor chamber to make one of the shortest cards, but I don't think it was the wisest decision, noise-wise.
I own the Steel Legend and it's very quiet even though it hits 2100RPM during hot days and heavy loads. Lanoc actually measured only 34dB

>>105694109
> Freezer 3
Simply the best. Thick radiator allows for slower spinning fans resulting in less noise. You can easily replace single fans if needed, they are cheap yet reliable enough to never worry about it.

>>105694122
Just look at that cringe sticker parade on top!
How old are you?

>>105694325
>>105694279
Fkin hell I'll just leave it then. Maybe I'll just buy a new case when AM6 releases and upgrade from AM4 with the whole thing except the GPU.

>>105694716
Why not? They came with it so I just stick it there lol

>>105694716
literally everything used to come with a case badge lmao
Boomer thing ironically

It showed your dedication to actually having a ship of theseus as a PC when you had multiple generations of hardware badges

>>105694700
So I will pick freezer 3 then.
What I know for sure is you can never go wrong with Noctua coolers.
What took them so long to enter the AIO market?

>>105694716
Too bad Intel's fallen off the rails.

>>105694505
can't find board pics of either of them so can't really tell
the asrock has a bigger cooler and only a 2x8pin power connector so it would probably run quieter and would be more convenient cabling wise
however the asus might be running a better power phase design

>>105694827
this, you're outing yourself as a zoomie by calling it cringe

>>105694842
It takes them long to do everything. They spent 4 years figuring out how to paint fans white, decided it wasn't possible, and then shut down the whole project. And that asetek prototype AIO they showed off at Computex didn't look good.

>>105694842
> What took them so long to enter the AIO market?
Their air coolers were selling well in the niche of affluent waterphobes.

>>105694842
>What took them so long to enter the AIO market?
They probably realized designing better air coolers wasn't worth the bullshit while developing the NH-D15 G2.
I think this cooler (fans, to be exact) was delayed by at least 3~4 years.

looks like I finally need a new card for oblivion remastered
any recommendations? i've got a 4k 144hz HDR monitor but don't expect to be able to fully drive it

>>105694885
9800x3d
rtx 5090

>>105694122
Fun fact about the Noctua badges, unless something has changed in the last few years, they are steel and you can use a magnet to reattach them once the glue wears out.

>>105694885
What's your budget? Local pricing will determine whether you get a 9070/XT or a 5070Ti.
The game needs a performance patch but it runs slightly better on Radeon atm.

>>105694901
I'm in the US and under $1k
not sure what you mean by "local pricing" you mean like marketplace?

>>105694936
5070 ti is pretty obvious

>>105694885
> for oblivion remastered
It doesn't impress me nearly as much as I remember it did back then. Not worth getting hardware just for it alone.

>>105694973
Oblivion was my first so I'm going to play the ever-living fuck out of it. especially when modding start maturing
I'll probably convert some of my old Oblivion mods too eventually

>>105694936
>not sure what you mean by "local pricing" you mean like marketplace?
Sometimes there are anons from Europe, Asia, and South America asking questions.

The 9070 XT Steel Legend or Prime provides better value if you don't need NVIDIA-specific features like DLSS or Reflex.
Both have good build quality and are priced at around $715~720.
The cheapest 5070Ti in stock atm is the MSI Shadow (over $850 including shipping), this runs a bit loud at stock settings (2500 RPM fans), but could be toned down by custom fan curves and undervolting.
Prices for the better 5070Ti models like the MSI Vanguard is ridiculously overpriced ($970ish) and they're out of stock.
https://youtu.be/MplM3lCJ7Ps?t=501

Shadow kind of feels bad to recommend when it's sold above its MSRP.
Best Buy restocks a PNY 5070Ti priced @ $750 from time to time.

>>105694481
realtek and others probably extract blood price for licensing

5070ti SUPER this year?

>>105692851
youtube has turned into a bloated shitshow of an app. I'm sure its partly to do with their constant war against adblockers and countless tracking+monitoring programs they incorporate into the app. They probably want to know where and when people pause the video on average.

still can't believe no white fans...and no daisy chaining

>>105695075
Something changed today, I used to be able to have 10 different videos open at once. Today my computer started shitting itself if I had more than 2.

>>105693170
https://streacom.com/products/sg10-fanless-gaming-pc-case/

>>105695102
Get fucked rgb fags.

>>105695102
>fan hub

I fucking hate this needless bullshit so much bros

>>105695022
>PNY

>>105694998
It's pretty fun but the gameplay shows its age, still got its charm.
I'm burnt out by the oblivion gates, I'll just wait for the performance patch.

>>105695136
It's either one of those 5070Ti or go full retard and pay over $1000 for a TUF, Gaming X, or similar tier of model.
Maybe water cooling the Shadow is a cheaper option but I doubt it.

It looks like Zotac Solid was the best MSRP 5070 Ti while stocks lasted for a minute or so.

>>105695183
>Zotac

>>105695044
>probably extract blood price for licensing
What do you mean?
It's just hardware chips

>>105695130
how can you hate fan hubs

>>105695206
actual fan controllers are better

I am a 5080 owner ama

Before you ask, yes, I like watching my pregnant wife be railed by big black HIV positive men. There's nothint like the excitement of knowing a thin piece of rubber is all that keeps my precious wife and unborn child from being infected by his voluminous POZZED Kara Boga BVLL load.

>>105695102
Is the G2 worth the upgrade?

>>105695234
https://www.hwcooling.net/en/noctua-nf-a12x25-g2-pwm-the-king-is-dead-long-live-the-king-review/39/

yep

>>105695234
If you already have a dozen NF-A12x25 G1, probably not.
I know the G2 is better but I'd use the G1s until they die.

>>105695243
Yup Yup time to throw my $30 a12x25s i bought 6 months ago for a new build in the trash so I can replace them with $35 g2s that are marginally better.

No they aren't worth the upgrade, maybe if your fans are 10+ years old or you're building a whole new pc they make sense.

>>105695071
bump please I need to know if I should put off my build for another year or no.

Any good tablets under $300? Just gonna use it for note taking desu

>>105695258
Nobody can answer that but you. Is your current build good enough? Then no. Is it not good enough? Yes

>>105695198
you can't put their chip on your motherboard without permission o algo

switched from over a decade of 21' screens to a 24.5'. i feel like i'm gonna be sick
whats the adjustment time brehs

>>105695258
NVIDIA probably won't release a 5070 Ti Super.
The 5070 Ti already has 16GB of VRAM and it OCs pretty well, given it's not power throttling.

>>105695289
switch to 27in

>>105695289
Just get a 32" and die.

>>105695254
>If you already have a dozen
Who doesn't? What's the point of going Noctua if you're not going full Noctua? Own up to your decadence.

SL Infinity is 35 bucks and it’s literally a wireless rgb fan. Sorry Noctua but maybe next time….

Also Jesus Christ it’s hot as FUCK today. 3 fucking ACs on and the ambient temp is still 28c. It was 95 degrees at 7 am in the fucking morning and it just hit 108

>>105695289
>>105695296
I went from 17" 1280x1024 to 27" 1440p

Somehow I managed to skip the entire 1080p era. Kek.
Im 31 and ive never kissed a girl

>>105695358
>Im 31 and ive never kissed a girl
so are we all

>>105695358
I'm 42 and I've kissed 1 girl. It was nice but caused my life to spiral out of control and I wish I could take it back.

>>105695346
Aussie?

>latest bios update automatically enabled MCR
>still causes booting to fail 50% of the time
AM5/DDR5 boot times will never be good will they?

>>105695284
Maybe for Intel and AMD, but there isn't any reason for realtek to charge beyond what the hardware costs. The bare chips are sold on the open market.

>>105695504
Not as long as you keep asking more then what the hardware is capable of.
You are arguable not entitled to anything faster than JEDEC speed RAM, so quit fussing.

Not even saying this to troll but I am blown away by how much people do fuss.

>>105695545
DDR5 boot times are drastically slower than prior gens. Is it entitled to expect hardware not to get worse over time?

>>105695258
i would wait
1. drivers are still unstable
2. prices for 5000s are slowly dropping, yet they continue to drop
3. by mid next year, latest, 5090/5080/5070 supers will be here + drivers will be stable + prices will be ok

>>105695552
My shit boots fine, but I'm also not fidgeting with my memory at all, not even EXPO.

If you want someone to blame, blame the DIMM vendors who\s testing clearly doesn't cover the majority of IMC quality so that systems don't have to train every time.

>>105695448
Burgerville

>>105695574
> not even EXPO
Oh come on! This is safe to use.

>>105695574
More like it's amd's fault for recommending 6000mhz ram when they only validated their chips for 5200/5600.
Ram training is fundamental to ddr technology so it happens regardless of speed. MCR works on my 6000mhz ram kit just fine and doesn't require training every boot.

>>105695385
I'm 58 and fucked a dozen, only two in the ass. Just for reference. Gen X master race.

Is there a common term for a hanging front power supply? A place to browse all cases of this type?

In the last thread somebody described radeon cards as "undesirable". I'm mulling over a build with a 9070 XT, is that card enough for a high-end rig, or should I really just save up for a 4090?

>>105695688
how many kids do you have grandpa

>>105695662
Nope.
Not a single soul beyond gaymers and others duped by gaymer hardware use any type of memory OCing.
Not fit for prod as to say.

>>105695686
>Ram training is fundamental to ddr technology
Not the extended training times that AM5 users are facing. If systems are training every time, you got a bum IMC or GSkill or whoever failed their own validation.

Extended training times make sense for servers with literal terabytes of memory, who do thread on the edge of stability even with matching MPNs, buffered DIMMs and JEDEC speeds.
People need to realize they just have been extremely lucky with DDR3 and DDR4. It's not even like your suffering for performance, you just want more than what's really guaranteed.

>>105695734
Extended ram training times on ddr5 is literally normal because of it's extremely high signalling speed. I think you simply forgot how long it took for the first boot and didn't measure it or you have an MSI/gigabyte board with optimized boot times. I've also owned lga1700 13th gen and 12th gen and both took about the same time to train ddr5.

>>105695693
Don't think so.

>>105695713
9070XT is midrange, 4090 and 5090 are the only true high end cards

guess the ASRock 9070xt the way to go then
wish the powercolor was that price

>>105695862
My build is a little north of $2k (https://pcpartpicker.com/list/). Is it reasonable for a build at that price point to have a 9070 xt or should it be a higher-end gpu?

>>105695763
NTA but its not normal
>t. 13th gen on an asrock board
First boot after a clear CMOS isn't anything memorable, enabling XMP is the same way.
The training time that does exist is faster than the board fiddle fucking because you dared installed an M.2 in the slowboat slot that shares lanes with sata

>>105695879
fail link stupid nigger

>>105695862
4080/super/5080 are high end, 90's are flagship or enthusiast if you like
5070 is mid-range, 5070 ti is either high mid range or low high range
5060 is entry level

Wasn't always this way though, 70 cards used to be high end, and 60 cards used to be mid-range. A sad state of affairs we find ourselves in now.

>>105695879
Sorry, link here

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gdhpLc

>>105695932
>Hellhound
wtf

>>105695946
Yeah

>>105695946
giwtwm

>>105695693
retarded

>>105695932
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gdhpLc
Drop the windows

Completed it on Intel Arc.

>>105695884
To be clear, I've observed 90 second first boot on both amd and intel ddr5 platforms

>>105696013
I look like that

>>105696013
are you making a weg with AI cg?

Is there any point in getting an AIO with my 10th i9? I bought a Phantom Spirit for like $40 and it works, but it still gets up there, to around the lower and mid 90s during stress tests rather quickly, like within 1-2 minutes depending on the ambient temp. Obviously normal though, as stress tests do that. When I am just doing other stuff it ranges from like 60-80C while playing games to about the mid to high 80s for stuff like converting videos with FFmpeg. For that specifically it goes from 40C to about 80C within a second.
Looking at AIOs, something like the be quiet light loop 360, at 250w (for a 13700k) the difference are about 7C between the Spirit and the AIO. Would that even be worth it? I've tried reading up on temperature fluctuations too and as far as I understand even with an AIO an i9 as well as some i7s with simply go and down 10C at times, within a second. Like from 62C to ~70C and then right back down again. From my understanding fluctuations generally aren't good for longevity, but they can't be avoided with these hotter Intel chips, no? I've had a crappy i5 and later Xeon for a decade, so seeing these high temps and especially the fluctuations is weird to me.

>>105695727
None but I can afford hardware and groceries and whatnot.

>>105695734
> Not fit for prod as to say.
Maybe not 8200, not 7200, not 6400 but certainly 6000 with UCLK=MCLK=3000 , "gear" 1 i.e.

I just had a thought; why don't they use an array of USB-C cables for power delivery?

>>105695903
> 90's are flagship or enthusiast
The term "master race" is well established and preferred, thank you for the appreciation.

>>105692806 (OP)
I don't want to swap out my 550w power supply, how hard of a time am I going to have trying to get a 5090 under 300ish watts? 1080p 60hz for now and a while at least

>>105696129
how long are you going to use a 10th gen i9 anyway? those fluctuations on air wont kill it within 10 years.

>>105696214
Unironically a decade, just like the previous PC.

>>105695713
I think it mainly depends on which resolution your display has. If 1440p then you are well served with a 9070 XT or better served with a 5070 Ti. If your display is 4k you will want to have more than just 16GB VRAM and probably also more performance if high fps is important to you. A 4090 or 5090 with a 4k display are high-end. A 5070 Ti with a 1440p display is high-start but not high-end and a 5080 is somewhere in between, high or high-mid, it doesn't deserve the high-end label with just 16GB VRAM, the same amount that a shabby 5060 Ti has.

>>105696289
You don't need a 90 card for 4k if you aren't trying to play monster hunter and other shitty AAA crap with ultra megazord 200+ fps settings. Anything reasonable a 5070ti will do just fine at 4k.

>>105696318
>Anything reasonable a 5070ti will do just fine at 4k

Anon, please. How many times do we need to have this discussion?

>>105695713
what do you think high-end is? only 4090 and 5090 are high-end GPUs.
everything from the mid-range will provide enjoyable experiences even at 4k. most cards are mid-range.

>>105696343
Until you learn that homosexuality is a sin and boys have penises and girls have vaginas.

>>105695879
seems like you're overspending on some parts if you're at 2k for just the tower.

>>105696129
I've been shilling the Arctic B-Stock (open box, 6-year warranty) AIOs in this thread, worth buying one of them for less than $60.
360mm B-Stocks all sold out, there's 240/280/420mms left. I would go with either 280 or 420mm.
280mm AIOs usually run about as well as a 360 in realistic loads (no stress test).

>420
https://www.ebay.com/itm/356354432993
>280
https://www.ebay.com/itm/356354434084

These rads are rather thick, you should check case & motherboard compatibility.
https://support.arctic.de/lf3-compatibility

You'll have to buy a compatible mounting frame separately for LGA1200 though.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09VGNYTD3

>>105695258
why would the 5070ti be a deciding factor in whether you should wait lmao what a dogshit build.

>>105696351
Why would you not just buy this?

>>105696356
That wasn't the question the question was if the SUPERS were coming this year. It would be stupid to build now if there was a new series coming in a few months.

>>105696362
supers aren't a new series lol

>>105696209
This idea is straight-up retarded.
Even if you got it down to 300W, there's going to be transient spikes.
And I believe the 5090 will require 4x 8pin PCIe power connection which most 550W PSUs won't provide.

I've seen 5090 owners with entry/mid-level 1440p Acer monitors, and some with terrible memory kits, but this idea is quite up there.

>>105696289
I play 4k with 0 issues with a 4070, 12GB.
you've been conned by influencers.
just don't expect to enable shit like ray tracing.

>>105696209
this is one of the dumbest things I've ever seen.

>>105696361
The 360 B-Stock was less than $50.
B-Stock is a nice entry point for people who are on the fence like that anon or the other guy who plans to replace the fans with Noctua's.

>>105696398
If you have to downgrade to a b-stock version for an AIO, then I would say just not purchase it at all.

>>105696351
I don't trust Arctic's fans desu. Bought a 5pack of the P14 PWM and they were rather disappointing. I'm a snob when it comes to noise. I did see a Thermalright AIO for $50 a few days ago, and while the Spirit's fans are very quiet, comparable to something like my Shadow Wing 2 exhaust (not at the same RPM, general noise quality and dba w/ different RPMs), I don't trust the longevity of the fans.
I'll likely just get two more Shadows Wing 2 140mm for the front and maybe a 120mm for the GPU side panel.
>>105696398
I wish Noctuas weren't badly priced here. Here a 140mm Noctua is $40. Or Euro rather. The home country of the company as well. Have a friend in the US and over there they're supposedly only around 25 for the high-end brown ones. Really weird.

THESE STUPID FUCKING CORSAIR MOUSES IM GOING TO HAMMER IT AAAAHHHH

>>105696444
Arctic is one of the few manufacturers with good customer service, a proven record of seriously responding to QC-related issues, and they stand by their 6-year warranty for BStock AIOs.
If you check most of the owner reviews on those pages, they're getting open-box products.

>>105696472
It's passed business hours, what are you doing here

>>105696209
It's easy
Just connect two of the four 8pins on the GPU adapter

>>105696351
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/356354432993
This is a bargain. Absolutely worth getting if case can take it. I paid 90 EUR ~105 USD for my brand new in GER.

>>105696547
The 420 BStock should have the highest chance of being brand new AIOs (excluding product retesting) because they're probably returned due to case fitment issues.
Other ones might be brand new if the pump didn't fit with the motherboard.

>>105696318
> You don't need a 90 card for 4k
And I didn't say so, but if you want high fps in 4k you want the fastest GPU you can get. High-end means money isn't an issue.

>>105696457
I thought my mouse had double-clicking issues but I guess it's gone.
What are some of the better wired & light mice these days?
I don't need MMO type shitloadofbuttons mouse.

>>105696563
> they're probably returned due to case fitment issues
Yes, the radiator is a real behemoth, I had to do a small mod to the top mesh cover of my Assus ProArt PA602 to make it fit on it.

>>105696619
I'd buy this again.

Is this true? I was planning on getting this board until I saw this review. If so do you guys have another recommendation for something in the same ballpark?

>>105696722
Now that I am looking closer this seems to be a common complaint. Should I not even worry about it since they all do it?

>>105696722
ASUS TUF and Gigabyte AORUS Elite AX are alternatives, both decent models.
Search for "AM5 Motherboards Sheet" for a database to compare AM5 board features.

>>105696747
The CMOS battery being under the chipset heatsink shouldn't be a deal breaker.
There's a clear CMOS pin you can jump with a screwdriver if you ever need to physically reset the BIOS.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xey0us9Nyyo

>>105696722
>but what if I have to remove the battery!?!
You won't.
>but what if I have to reset-
Use the fucking reset pins you retard. They're meant to work with a screwdriver.

>>105696619
The double click test does not work here, the pic only gets bigger or smaller. kek

>>105696788
I've never done any of those things, I honestly don't even know what a CMOS is. Pretty sure those didn't exist when I built my computer 11 years ago or if it did no one talked about it. But I hear it mentioned at least once a thread now so I figured it was something important.

>>105696796

>>105696802
> Pretty sure those didn't exist when I built my computer 11 years ago
Oh yes, they did exist even 30 years ago and we were using jumpers to clear CMOS because there was no CMOS reset button on mobos back then. You can use anything conductive to bridge the contacts but a jumper is the most comfy and you can leave it on a pin for the future.

>>105696802
>I honestly don't even know what a CMOS is
I think it's a chip that stores your PC's BIOS settings, the CMOS battery lets the chip store those settings even when the PC is turned off.
When you boot up the PC, the motherboard's going to read the settings stored in the CMOS chip.

If you overclock your PC and it causes crash/freeze/boot issues, you "clear" the CMOS to make this chip forget the problematic settings.

The battery is expected to last between 5~10 years as long as the PSU is on (the PC doesn't have to be powered on).
Worst case, removing the chipset heatsink won't be too difficult.

I checked out the S95F irl yesterday in 77"
77" is literally not even that big, the coating again as the s95d is not even that noticable
just literally TVmaxx, hopefully the one connect box is not shit but I heard it still is or something idk
or just plop a 55" on your desk
no G5 in store to check out

people talk about the brightness being insane and shit I put on max brightness and peak brightness on max and shit and idk did not seem that insane compared to the old s95d idk, it was also bright

tvmaxx or 500hz maxx, there is no inbetween

>>105696910
>just plop a 55" on your desk
Oh hi elon, you gonna stream some more d4 soon?

>tfw installed wrong vlc version
I used vlc.de and that installs some VLC Plus thing where you get VLC but also a weird updater?
>Plus told me to update
>check VLC
>already on latest version
>huh.jpg
>fuck it let's just hit update
How fucked am I?

so done with these fucking driver issues on my 5070 ti. i was in the middle of typing up a shitpost dunking on the AMDrones ITT when my screen went black and I had to turn my whole pc off. im rmaing and switching to 9070 xt fuck it idc anymore.

>>105696976
Alright so it was a PUP. They installed a new home page called StartWindow and that shit reinstalled itself every time I removed it with adware killers. When I reset chrome settings it wouldn't come up anymore but I also removed every registry entry associated with VLC or VLC Plus just to be sure. I hope this was really all it does and something this retrarded doesn't happen again to me.

>>105697148
tactic of reverse tardation - make it phunny
no?
in reality drivers are still not programmed.
unstable and not fully working.

>>105696028
What do you mean? I dont get. Do i use Intel AI Playground software?

>>105696619
endgame op1 8k

>>105696963
Elon was using the ark 55", curved va slop monitor though
I am talking taking the tv pill

Asus finally made a gpu that ends all brand wars

Is ungrounded outlet have anything to do with lound psu coil whine? I just checked the outlet that i plugged my pc into and it's apparently ungrounded, no electric leakage and voltage seems fine.

>>105692806 (OP)
>MONITOR
>4K: Gigabyte M28U
The M27UA appears better in almost every way : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50GVYMHTnjE

Neural textures will save PC gayming but it will also mean that we will be building PCs with 8GB cards for the rest of time. If a game needs more VRAM they'll just crank up the compression factor, and presumably the performance increases per generation will make up for that need (and also conveniently degrade performance on older cards).

Poors will never have the VRAM necessary to run even a light AI model.

Ryzen 9 7900X (12 cores) vs Ryzen 7 9700X (8 cores) they're basically the same price where I live. How much better is 12 cores for things like photo editing, music production and video editing? Would it be better to pick the newer 8 core?

>>105697965
Until we start compressing the ai models

>>105698203
I would take the 7900X then.

So with my new pc I have msi tomahawk, 9800x3d and a 5070ti and now have to the option of hybrid graphics or something. With my fractal case and everything the thing barely makes noise. Even when I did stress tests in 3dmark. Would hybrid graphics improve sound and temps even more? Or should I just leave that option off in the bios.

>>105695213
Actual fan control program is much better.

>>105697965
Gaym developers will should implement new API.
And also i wonder how many DX12 GPUs will support that API.

How necessary is overclocking and is it safe?

>>105692806 (OP)
What's the recommended 1440p OLED monitor these days?

Is ASRock mobo still killing x3d?

I want to get new fans for my case but my motherboard has such an awful coil whine that it'd just be polishing a turd.

>>105698669
I can only talk from an AMD perspective:
If you're talking CPUs, it's dumb. You should be undervolting or using AMD's curve optimizer instead. The end result is much better and very safe
If you're talking GPUs, it's ok. Undervolting can give the same if not better results than overclocking. The big gains come when you do both undervolting and overclocking. On AMD's side it's safe if you stick to the radeon software.

>>105697148
any crash report in the "reliability history" ?

>>105698704
>give less power
>expect it to run better
As someone who doesn't know shit undervolting sounds like a meme that wouldn't work. I'll have to look into it

>>105698747
Less voltage, less heat, more efficiency, more boost.
Overclocking, more heat, less efficiency, potentially less boost unless you water cool.

I'm done with these Nvidia driver issues I sold my 5070ti to some iPhone noob

>>105698669
overclocking cpu is a waste of time these days
undervolting works better in most cases
also nvidia's rtx5000 series overclocks pretty well so that's viable

>>105698747
undervolting works because most silicon ship with a hefty voltage margin to prevent RMAs
well, except for nvidia gpus since they do lose a lot of performance from undervolting because of aggressive clock stretching that can't be turned off

I has genious idea. Can you make a mouse with a buttons maded and working like phone screen sensor? You just slightly touching the surface and it detects and send a click with a lighting speed.

>>105698939
Laptop touchpad?

>>105698939
sounds soulless as hell

>>105698979
>touchpad
Yes, where gaming touchpad mouses?

>>105698415
Hybrid graphics just lets your GPU drive your iGPU output. It's pointless if you don't need more than your 4 GPU outputs.
>>105698939
Congrats, now you need to keep your fingertips off the mouse until you click and just created the most uncomfortable mouse ever designed.

>>105698939
i'm guessing this is ragebait, but if not:
touchscreens have relatively high latency and give less feedback than normal switches.
also, it would invalidate pretty much every mouse grip since fingers tend to rest on the buttons

Imagine spending thousands of dollars to UE5 slop made by DEI hired

>>105698993
Steam Controller

>>105695258
Wait if you can, buy if you feel you have to. There probably WILL be a 5070 ti super, allegedly before 2026, because it would sell.
At the end of the day there is no perfect time to upgrade and there will always be faggots telling you to wait.

is it impossible for a monitor to get a good review if it isn't an oled

>>105699089
there won't be a TI super. It's the 18GB 5070 Super and 24GB 5080 Super

anyone running the 9070 xt on linux?

>>105695162
I bought the game on launch and it’s been well over a month now and the difficulty is still completely fucked. Game is unplayable. I haven’t felt like such an idiot for buying a game since I was a dumb kid who bought the sequel to Mirror’s Edge.

>>105699104
yeah

>>105699104
No, I don't use Linux, because everything works on Windows .

>>105699104
I have a 9070 XT but I only ran Linux on it to recover data off some old hard drive.

please take your amd schizo back /g/
>>713587329
>>713587329
>>713587329

>>105699146
Who are you talking to, schizo?

please take your amd schizo back /g/
>>>/v/713587329
>>>/v/713587329
>>>/v/713587329

>>105699152
nvidia is pretty cursed on Linux too
hence why I'm looking at the 9070 xt

Is $2000 only mid range?

>>105698688
500hz qdoled coming soon is the best, after that the 480hz
if you are poor I guess the 240-360 ones and get a deal
again qd > woled

for ultra premium asus > msi
but I guess since msi patched their refresh refresh window up to 24h they might be acceptable now a days but kinda still not how it should behave

if you arent for 500hz refreshes just get a 4k one if you arent poor

>>105699096
even more impossible for tn esports panels since reviewers dont have any clue what the target audience for those are
reviewers have no fine nuance to thier reviews and are just pure tech sloppers, no idea what gaymers even want
just some generic ad show case basic bitch shit in general with affiliate links and safe guarding their sponsors like little bitches

>>105699164
Yes.

>>105699164
Its entry level.

>>105699164
Pretty much entry tbqh (to be quite honest).

>>105699152
/v/ is already a public toilet of this website, They can have xhem.

>hardware doesn't work properly due poorly written driver
>"It's a (You) problem."
>AMD happens to work
>"SHUT THE HELL UP SHILL FUCK OFF"

>>105699166
>>105699096
>monitor comes out with perfect contrast, damn near instant response time and high color coverage
>gets high marks
>monitors without those things get lower marks
>/g/ is shocked, offended, assblasted even
When the bar goes higher of fucking course things lower than the bar get a lower score.
You want DEI for LCD monitors or something?

>>105699221
hyper-v justwerks on nvidia but is broken on amd

Why are the pcpartpicker builds so shit? What is a retard like me supposed to do

But OLED monitors won't last 10 years

>>105699280
but enough about you.

>>105695103
>>105692851
Use mpv? might be more lightweight I guess

>>105692806 (OP)
>when you realize AMD and NVIDIA are even closer than you think!

>>105699488
>AMD
TSMC
>NVIDIA
TSMC
Pray for Intel.

>>105699228
QDEL bros...

>>105699495
Fun fact 5080 has almost same transistor count as 7900xtx gcd.
The 5080 only wins because it's using GDDR7 while AMD is still using GDDR6.

>>105699152
Hell No, This finally turned back into a decent thread and I'm enjoying myself. You already have a bunch of schizo's over there on \v\ one more shouldn't be an issue.

>>105695903
>5080
>high end
That shit is barely better than 5070ti and with the same vram to boot. It doesn't deserve to be at high end tier.

Novideo on Doom: The Dark Screen Ages status?

>>105698498
With a custom loops like this, would it be better to have the reservoir holding cold liquid fresh out of the radiator or hot liquid out of a component?

>>105699899
>>105699899
>>105699899

>>105699887
NTA but it kinda doesn't matter.
You strive for radiators to be the last thing in a loop before returning to the reservoir but its a few C difference if any at all if in another order.

The water has to be somewhat warm before any heat dissapation in the rads can take place anyway.

>>105699280
Very brave of you to assume that an lcd will work for 10 years straight and have no electrical failure during that time, aka, the LCDs last for forever-fallacy
Also, you will still be looking at poop
Also, oled never was for poorfags, however, now you can get second hand panels, tvs are regularly being sold out at discount prices, if you cant afford 600 bux for a brand new oled tv to use as a monitor maybe you have other issues you need to sort out

>>105699782
>Posting stale images and videos.
Over 8 million dGPUs shipped last quarter and it's safe to say most RTX 50 card buyers are still using their cards.
Because the drivers-related issues are improving with every new update.

>>105699964
>Nvidia is the best sarr and everyone agree sarr!!! You don't want to miss out right sarr!? REDEEM THE BLACK SCREEN YOU BLOOD BASTARD BENCHOD!!!!

>>105699906
Then those white things I see in the reservoir is froth rather than condensation?.

ASRock PG-1300G or Corsair hx1200i
Price is about the same, the asrock one has built in sensors in the 12v cable. Which one should I buy for an rtx 4090?

>>105700016
Another stale spam. Find some new material.
Lashing out like this won't turn back time btw.

>105700042
Enjoying your time on the premium GeForce™ 1050 ti rig in the cafe Bautista?

>>105700037
The corsair one doesn't have an atx 3.0 or 3.1 socket?

Can someone bake the real pcbg bread? Drone spam is getting really boring

>>105699899
>>105699899
>>105699899

>>105700069
Corsair is also atx 3.1, but the asrock one has temperature sensors in the cable.

>>105700066
Speak for yourself, how's that $90 savings working out for you?
Big chip on your shoulder, was it because you had to buy someone's sloppy seconds GTX 1080?
The insecurity is palpable.

>>105700105
>>105700105
>>105700105

>>105699899
>>105699899
>>105699899

>>105700099
Did they release a version with native atx 3.1? Online I can only find a version that uses 8 pin adapter cables.

>>105700114
>>105700105
>>105700105
>>105700105

duplicate spam shill thread above
real one
>>105699899
>>105699899
>>105699899

>>105699906
fuck off retard

Non brand war thread
>>105700105
>>105700105
>>105700105
>>105700105

shill spammer above
real thread
>>105699899
>>105699899
>>105699899

Unbiased thread
>>105700105
>>105700105
>>105700105
>>105700105

above thread is disguised shilling for intel and nvidia, also a spam duplicate
actual unbiased OP with the truth shills and fanboys don't want you to know
>>105699899
>>105699899
>>105699899

>>105699166
>500hz qdoled coming soon is the best, after that the 480hz
Not looking for the best, but the "best-for-buck".

> again qd > woled
QD seem to have piss poor brightness in larger windows.

>thread that says shittel and uses emotional manipulation is the real thread
That OP thinks you're an idiot. Come here instead for mutual respect
>>105700105
>>105700105
>>105700105
>>105700105

above thread is spam duplicate by a troll to divide the general and cause drama
real thread
>>105699899
>>105699899
>>105699899

>rushed thread that says shittel and uses emotional manipulation is the real thread
That OP thinks you're an idiot. Come here instead for mutual respect and real discussions
>>105700105
>>105700105
>>105700105
>>105700105

above poster is a nigger spammer desperate for people to use his currently dying thread
this is the real thread where everyone is already
>>105699899
>>105699899
>>105699899

>rushed thread that says shittel and uses emotional manipulation is the real thread
That OP thinks you're an idiot. Come here instead for mutual respect and real discussions
>>105700105
>>105700105
>>105700105
>>105700105

>>105700099
>temperature sensors in the cable.
it's insane the industry has to fix nvidia's fuckups

above poster is a nigger spammer desperate for people to use his currently dying thread
this is the real thread where everyone is already
>>105699899
>>105699899
>>105699899

>rushed thread that says shittel and uses emotional manipulation is the real thread
That OP thinks you're an idiot. Come here instead for mutual respect and real discussions
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>>105700105
>>105700105
>>105700105

above poster is a faggot spammer desperate for people to use his currently dying thread
this is the real thread where everyone is already
>>105699899
>>105699899
>>105699899

>rushed thread that says shittel and uses emotional manipulation is the real thread
That OP thinks you're an idiot. Come here instead for mutual respect and real discussions
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>>105700105
>>105700105
>>105700105

real thread
>>105699899
>>105699899
>>105699899

>>105700614
Kek

>>105693080
was he a narcissist? he is a rat after all