>>105753760 (OP)
yeah but when i talked about it on 4chan someone freaked out and threatened to bomb my house

>>105753760 (OP)
No, I recently wanted to repair something and realized it just needed a replaced battery I couldn't find so I gave up.

>>105753760 (OP)
I'm not poor, so I never needed to repair any of my devices.

sir this is consumer board

Yeah I bought some new bumpers for my Xbox Series X controller. This controller for all its flaws is ridiculously serviceable with tons of replacement parts available.

>>105753858
Repairing things is actually more expensive than buying new.

>>105753760 (OP)
No, because in most cases, repairing is not worth the hassle.

>>105753926
yeah those smd components are so expensive

>>105753760 (OP)
The way Louis does? No I wouldn't even know where to start.

>>105753952
They are. You forgot to calculate in: Professional repair tools (because cheap tools are useless) and work hours.

>>105753952
have you been on digikey, mcmaster, amphenol, etc.? the shipping on components is outrageous. that's even before getting tools worth a shit. these days to repair anything that itself costs less than around 150bux is not worth repairing. it's just fun, or an excuse to do modifications at the same time.

I swapped the battery on my ancient phone, but that's it.

>>105753760 (OP)
sometimes, although anything modern this really just comes down to soldering in a new Li battery. Modern electronics in their integrated circuit format don't really lend themselves to being repaired, the cost of equipment and time needed to repair just lends things to being thrown away (and bought again, of course :))

>>105753760 (OP)
Oh yeah. From video games to dvd players to smartphones.
And computers, of course.

>>105753760 (OP)
Yes, I have. If you can't repair it, you shouldn't be allowed to use it unsupervised.

>>105753760 (OP)
yes. i bought a broken lab bench power supply and fixed it.

how is this even a question? you think people throw away stuff the first sign of any issue with it?

>>105753952
My TV's backlight went out. The TV itself was free, but given its age and original MSRP, it should be worth about 200 bucks if it were in mint condition but still old.

Looking up replacement backlight strips, OEM ones are like 300$. If I were to just bodge it with some garbage chinesium LED strip, getting a reel of it from an electrical supply store gets me results for around 75$ for 10ft of the stuff, before shipping. I guess I could use a crappy dollar store 3ft strip (around 5bux) but then I need extra stuff to make it always-on and the color will probably be not quite actually white because bottom dollar RGB slop.

And that's assuming it's just the lights, and not the voltage driver or whatever where I'll have to buy handfuls of caps for 80bux each after shipping.

And if I didn't have any tools to start with, I'd want at minimum a decent multimeter, a soldering station, and supplies. So throw on another 50bux for decent quality gear and some consumables.

I could easily go to a pawn shop and just pay 75-150$ for an entire new TV of similar quality instead of all of the above plus the man-hours in diagnosing and repairing the backlight.

>>105753760 (OP)
yeah, recently for a first time. i opened my laptop and changed wifi card because old one stopped working right and was about to buy and change the keyboard with the whole palmrest and fans, but saw the prices of original and changed my mind. fuck that shit, better buy new at that point. was pretty fun overall otherwise.

>>105753760 (OP)
Sure have. I once duct taped a pair of headphones back together when the headband broke.

>>105754062
normies DO REALLY

I tried to start a home business freelancing device repair for people, hoping to eventually get to doing it for mom n pop businesses. pretty much everyone said the same thing:
>Why give it to you to repair when I can just go to Best Buy and get a new one?
it's even worse for trying to do it for businesses because they have warranties and contracts and shit so even if they wanted, having me touch their POS or menu display TVs or whatever means violating some warranty or service contract

>>105754082
the pro move is to get junked equipment and salvage it. wifi cards don't usually break and they're all the same little Qualcomm module. series of laptop also generally use the same keyboards and trackpads; for example I have a junked Acer Nitro 5 that needs a keyboard replacement (among other things) but randomly found some Acer business class thing in the trash and the chassis, keyboard, trackpad, and cooling solution are all almost the same as in the Nitro series, just without edgy red trim and gaymer lighting.

>>105754003
>>105753951
>>105754068
I can see no one has had anything really expensive in their life.

>>105754003
>oh golly gee that blown capacitor is $1.50 and the charred resistor is 80 cents to replace. Horribly overpriced. I can't afford that. I guess I'll just buy the entire thing new for $140. Yes, that's what Ill do :)

>>105753760 (OP)
I asked my dad to solder some stuff for me because I neither don't know how nor do I have soldering station. If there's something as easy as just unscrew things and replace parts with spare one I'm trying to do it.

>>105754112
honestly if places like Radio Shack still existed it'd be fine but the truth is I ain't paying 75$ and waiting two weeks to ship five caps and a resistor pack

and the cops already know my face from dumpster diving at the local e-waste place so I can't do salvage properly (on NY's day wee hours some pigs threatened to arrest me for looking at a keyboard someone had just left there outside, I ain't getting tazed and shot over some e-waste)

>>105754103
Ok, Mr. Bezos.

>>105754155
not him but even "expensive" in relative terms is enough. like you don't see your average person buying a new car because the oil icon popped up, or buying a new house because the front door started squeaking
there are of course some things where the cost to repair it (money and/or time), is simply more than the cost of replacing it, but for most items and most problems i don't believe that is the case

>>105753926
This. I recently repaired a water heater and it cost 85% of the price of buying new.

>>105753760 (OP)
Yes.
It should be a requirement before being allowed to post on /g/.

>>105753760 (OP)
I've repaired some old game consoles. I'll try and repair my CRTs when they inevitably die. Modern electronics aren't meant to be serviced and companies go out of their way to make it difficult to do so.

>>105754187
true but this is /g/ and so the >IMPLICATION is that we're talking about consoomer electronics. most consumer electronics that are repairable in any meaningful way and aren't some System-On-Chip affront towards the Lord are cheap as fuck and the cost of repairs quickly outpaces just replacing the fucking thing.

I have actually repaired quite a few electronic things in my life. Identifying and replacing blown capacitors is really easy to do in most electronic devices. I once saved a home theater amp by replacing two caps for less than $3.

Hell, you don't even have to solder to repair many things. Just taking them apart and cleaning them works wonders.

>>105754203
perhaps we should be more specific, repairing it yourself vs. having a professional repair it
because yea, professional repairs have much higher costs. if i replace a rubber seal on my leaking toilet it'll cost me the price of the seal and a bit of time to look up what to get and how to install it. if i got a plumber to do it, it might cost half what it costs to install a new toilet

Consumers are going to want to get their stuff repaired instead of throwing shit away and buying new once the well of cheap ass Chinese goods will eventually dry up.

>>105754187
>but for most items and most problems i don't believe that is the case

No. These days, all products are intentionally designed for the trash can. They are designed in such a way, that repairing is so difficult and expensive as possible. Its not the consumers, its the corpos and their unrepairable shit which is the problem.

>>105754232
you shouldn't forget that issues aren't always hardware, i've been given computers on more than one occasion for free from friends of friends for reasons that were entirely software. like a laptop that bsod's on boot but was otherwise /completely fine/
a lot of it is just ignorance. if your car doesn't go right it's common knowledge to take it to a mechanic or that guy you know who does car stuff, but a computer? fuck it. it's 2 years old. get a new one.

>>105754258
no they won't, they're begging for daddy trump and mommy musk to bring manufacturing to the US (and import jeets to keep it cheap) so they can continue their throwaway lifestyle

>>105754277
also true but software fixes don't colloquially fall under "device repair" and even normies know they can just reinstall/"refresh" windows when their computer "gets slow"

i guess not on phones though because those already have fucking absurd turnover because of how phone plans work but people who dont replace their phones as often know they can just factory reset the bitch after writing down all their friends' numbers

>>105754282
What the cattle doesn't get is that producing locally is literally impossible at the same prices that China makes possible.
Cyan-haired Alice Smith would protest if xhe had to work for Chinese wages and had the same work hours.

>>105754310
ok i agree with you and have nothing further to add to the conversation. thank you for your time

>>105754331
No problem and have a nice day, Anon.

>>105754305
>software fixes don't colloquially fall under "device repair"
to anyone who knows better, no it doesn't. but to anyone else?
>even normies know they can just reinstall/"refresh" windows when their computer "gets slow"
evidently not. to paraphrase xckd, experts in any field vastly overestimate the average persons' familiarity with their field
like yea, the options are there and are intended for consumer use, but what if the machine bsod's while booting like that computer i mentioned? it just loops and there's apparently nothing you can do to stop it. to a typical person it's fucked, they don't know enough to even question if it's just a software issue or not

>>105754331
>>105754342
STOP THIS

>>105753760 (OP)
I can replace an AC power plug without burning down the house. :^)

>>105754305
>>105754355
-- like, your average person doesn't really know what an os is, or that windows is just software running on a pc. it's hard to explain or even really imagine to us nerds, but when people say they have a "windows computer', they /mean it/, like windows is the type of computer they have. if windows is broken the computer is broken. they don't know the difference

>>105753760 (OP)
I got 10 years out of my iPod classic because I was able to crack it open and replace the headphone jack every time it broke. Although ultimately, the screen ended up breaking, the battery started to run dry, and I ran out of space on it, so I ended up getting rid of it. It would've been too much of an investment to replace the jack, the battery, the screen, and the hard drive, and I wasn't confident in my ability to fix it all without fucking something up.

>>105754363
Why? I enjoy having actually good conversations with anons and wish we'd always get along so well.

>>105754232
Most of the talk about electronic repair has context around newish things, that are relatively expensive.
You could spend $2k on a consumer laptop and with warranties being 2 years at the most are you going to tell me its not worth fixing it should something happen after the warranty?

Personally if your spending that much, you should be entitled to a pretty reliable device but unfortunately that's not the case for electronics in general, if anything there is an inverse relationship.

>>105754355
>>105754394
>to a typical person it's fucked,
true but from experience I can say that because even normies have "precious" data on their computers, just throwing it away entirely is usually not desired. They'll often at least take it to a repair place (or ask a techie they know) to see if anything can be done to recover their family photos, homegrown porn, schoolwork, etc.

It's less of a problem on phones since normies tend to upload all their photos to Le Cloud (if not using insta/facebook/whatever to take the photos directly) and nothing productive happens on a phone that isn't stored somewhere else (like e-mail). Contact lists are often stored on the SIM, too, so popping it out (or having the wagie at the phone place do so) keeps that stuff. So they're willing to toss phones over nothing.

But computers, I'd rate as similar to a car in that normies don't have a clue about the issue when something is wrong, but are willing to shell out to have repairs done.

>they have a "windows computer', they /mean it/,
Yeah, I remember the days of people thinking "PC" means "Windows box" and saying stuff like "No, I don't have a PC, I have a Mac..."

>>105754407
headphone jack repair is the fucking worst. I've never managed to do it without melting the housing. I have to do that old trick of crushed up graphite in glue to re-seat them shits. Repairing a male jack is just out of the question, I simply splice new ones on with a long lead.

>>105754417
Laptops are an outlier because they're too tightly built and so many things are proprietary that the chance of meaningful repair is slim. Just to replace a CPU you need a fucking wave station or fancy overpriced paste and a temp controlled heat gun and a lot of luck.

>>105753760 (OP)
decent amount of them, old stuff can be enjoyable to fix while modern shit is just too annoying to be worth it many of the times.

>>105754407
for something like that there's also a obsolescence aspect. like even if a repair doesn't cost much, is that cost better put towards a significant upgrade instead?
some things aren't replaceable like that, like i have a few old consoles around which i have had to repair as well, and while there's back compat in some cases and emulation in most cases, if you want the original experience as-is, you have to repair old hardware. nobody is making those consoles anymore. a music player on the other hand, there's many options, maybe not exactly like your ipod classic, but manageable, alternatives do the core function of playing music just the same, it's more about objective features like size/weight/capacity (which generally improve over time) and interface, which is one part that is very subjective

>>105753760 (OP)
When I was a teenager I got my own laptop and naturally put a bunch of porn and games on it, especially modded Skyrim to have a bunch of sex mods. Eventually I started having an issue where I'd start a game and I'd constantly be fading to black and back, starting at the bridge by Whiterun every time I loaded in, and not able to run more than a few feet before getting zipped back to that spot. It was very strange and I liked Skyrim a lot for the porn so I reluctantly asked my dad to take it to Best Buy to have it fixed by the Geek Squad. They said the hard drive was corrupted and that was it.

>>105754437
>Repairing a male jack
one of the easiest repairs, once you get good feeling on how you should be cutting the insulation of the jack.

I'm a poorfag so yes, started with fixing headphones and turned into modifying headphones, keyboards, mice, boards etc. Even making my own audio & usb cables. Still poor.

>>105753760 (OP)
few phone screens/batteries, laptop screen/keyboard/fan, smartwatch battery

>>105753926
A technician I know had to do side gigs since less and less people are coming to his shop. This didn't use to make sense back in the day but here we are lol.

>>105754493
>one of the easiest repairs,
How do you do it without melting the thing? same for female jacks, they're always surface mount trash so now you've got a hot-ass iron right next to chinesium plastic housings, that shit will perish

>>105754483
They just stole all of your Skyrimporn

>>105753760 (OP)
yes.
a couple actually

>>105754525
I imagine that 99% of repair shops these days are just doing phone screen repairs or people coming in with suspicious phones saying "yeah this is uhhhh definitely mine but I forgot the password, can you unlock it?". In my country anyway repair shops are usually run by foreigners, the concept of the local electronics repair shop is dead

>>105754527
Wrong tool bro
It was originally soldered with hot air in an SMT oven so the best thing for repair is a hot air station.

Soldering iron should only be used when cleaning pads really

>>105754581
I know of exactly one but the average age in my area is INCREDIBLY high, offset only by having tons of students around. so they mostly deal in boomer pornbox repair and selling chromebooks (then buying them back when the student inevitably graduates/drops out and no longer needs it)

>>105754592
I only have picrel on hand (without the tips; i bought it used) and can't find a good brick and mortar store to get a proper hot air gun so I'm SOL i guess

>>105753993
Ah yeah you need a 30000€ welder to remove a resistor

>>105754631
kek this is gonna melt the whole board
aliexpres, cheap af and free shipping

>>105754674
I thought of trying to find some sort of heat proof tubing (i thought maybe a stainless steel hose like for a shower line but with the liner removed) and building an adapter and handle but I am lazy and also it sounds like a bad idea

>>105754674
>>105754631
based wall melter anon

>>105754690
I have one of those Gordak 952 stations, works well enough. They cost smth like 60$ on aliexpress, bought mine 10y ago so there are probably better options now.

If someone can recommend me where to buy tips for the soldering iron I will be very thankful. I bought shit from aliexpress but the hole is too wide and the heating element can't heat it efficiently.

>>105754437
On the iPod, it was pretty simple. After opening it up and disconnecting the drive from the battery, all you had to do was unscrew a couple screws, replace it, and put the screws back.
>>105754479
You're right, and in a lot of ways, the Walkman I bought to replace it is better. It sounds better, I can slap a 1TB or even 2TB microSD on it and never have to worry about space ever again, and best of all, I don't have to fuck with iTunes. But, one thing that still really bothers me about replacing the iPod is the battery life. Simply put, there's nothing comparable on the market right now. I used to be able to get a week's worth of pretty heavy usage on a single charge. I bought the Walkman because it was supposed to have great battery life, but I get 2, maybe 3 days max out of it. And, for me at least, the interface is also a problem. I dislike using touchscreens, especially on music players, but unfortunately, it seems like buttons and click wheels have gone away and are never coming back.

>>105753760 (OP)
Don't get me wrong i care about consumer rights but this goofy panda looking guy has anger management issues and he's insane.

>>105754779
Yeah, something like that was more or less what I was envisioning, except instead of a box thta's the PSU and fans/pumps, I already have the 2000w heatgun and thought basically

>heatgun goes to some box that fits to it snugly, attaches to heatproof line
>use an old dollar store glue gun chassis or something, mount a steel tube and some insulation in it
>thread the end so I can attach a pump needle/nozzle to that
>now have a 2000w heater driving 500 degree air through a line that goes to a pistol grip with a 1mm nozzle on it so I can fuck up and destroy not just anything I point it at but also my hands and maybe my desk
just haven't gotten around to it. maybe i'll go dumpster diving for scrap this week and finally bother with it

>>105754858
based

>>105754858
>goofy panda looking
can't unsee it anymore, thanks

every time I try to solder something I break it, even if it's as simple as a cap replacement

>>105754881
You can try adding PSU pipe from old VIA PC to the hot air gun, this will let you regulate the temperature. BJT transistor can be used as temp sensor if calibrate properly too.

>>105754966
you need to break more stuff before you hit lvl2, simple as that.

>>105754802
i'm not clued into music players personally as music has never been something i've been particularly interested in. the battery life point you mention does stand out to me however. i know enough to know music player battery life has jumped around a bit, but not finding something at least as good as an older player does still surprise me. one thing that comes to mind is, is there any possibility of a mod? like using a battery larger than the original in capacity? the spans you mention are quite significant, which suggests more than just the cell capacity is going on.
physical controls on the other hand is something that has affected much more than music players. in theory/on paper i get that touch controls offer more flexibility in design, but i do believe that in practice there's many places where they just make things worse. i'm again not a musicfag but i have owned pmp's in the past and even i wouldn't want to buy one that can't be controlled blind from a pocket

>>105754972
I don't feel myself to be at a skill level that requires fine temperature control and if I git gud enough to do real business I'll just buy a proper station and write it off my taxes

>>105753760 (OP)
Yes. I try to fix most things I own before deciding whether I should by something new. I have also failed to fix a lot of things.

>>105755929
based attempt maker, keep trying brah

>>105753760 (OP)
my xbox 360 stopped reading disks. No matter what disk I put in, how clean it was, or if I put a disc laser cleaner in the xbox, nothing worked. I found out online you could replace the disk drive, but that it was a tough thing to do and would void your warranty. My parents were not going pay for it to be repaired so I got to work. I found a friend who had a red ringed 360 and asked him if I could have it for the disc drive. He gave it to me and I followed a ridiculously difficult guide on replacing and "marrying" the new disc drive to my 360. It was full of jargon I didn't understand, very hard to follow, and took me about 7 hours of trial and error.

But I did manage to fix my 360 and get it working again. When THAT disc drive failed a couple years later I was able to fix it much faster the second time around. Fixing the first 360 was orgasmic, the feeling of beating the stupid fucking guide and managing to fix my primary escapism hobby was an insane rush.

>>105756338
i'm glad i learned to fix shit before they started pairing parts to one-another like that, but i'm happy things turned out well for you as well.
console security is its' own set of worms compared to most things

>>105753760 (OP)
Yes. Have you ever eaten your snots?

My backlight to my tv turned blue so I ordered a new one on ali express and took apart the tv and put the new one in and fixed it. I have a newer one so I put it up at my grandmas rest home so now I can watch movies off a usb drive when I go there. It looks good but I left a couple fingerprints under the screen. I should have worn gloves or watch condoms.

>>105754251
I have had this happen 2x. Fuck those clorox tablets you put in the resovoir they disolve the seal. But the part was like $3 for the rubber o ring between the tank and the seat part. It was a huge pain but better than paying a handyman or plumber $100 to do it

>>105754858
Panda? That's just the new york jew complexion

I tried taking apart my cell phone once. Bought some tools online to replace a battery that won't charge anymore. Found out the hard way that every fucking component is glued so everything breaks if you don't superheat it with some really hot heatgun. Ended up shattering my entire screen just trying to take it off.

I vowed to never ever buy another Asus phone ever again. Currently using a Samsung Galaxy A21. Been using this for 4+ years now.

yes

>>105753760 (OP)
Yes, the power supply in my DELL UltraSharp died because a capacitor went kaput. Replacing it fixed the monitor.

>>105753760 (OP)
yes

>>105753760 (OP)
>Have you ever repaired any of your electronic devices?
Just a phone screen replacement. It's pretty rare for me to need repairs, I treat my stuff well.
Usually by the time something breaks down, it's so old it's well overdue replacement for performance reasons.

>>105753760 (OP)
God, how did those greasy wops ever actually become considered white in America?

>>105760045
>rossman
>wop

>>105753760 (OP)
Nothing too crazy, just a couple phone screens and a capacitor replacement job on a retro Mac.

>>105760090
it's rossmann, dumbass

>>105753760 (OP)
Yes.

>>105760045
Because they flooded the country and took over through mob ties. Same as Irish.
In 50 years Hispanics will be considered white for the same reason.

>>105761289
Hispanic are already considered nearly white status, moreso than any other race.

>>105760045
My brother in christ, he is jewish

>>105753760 (OP)
I mail my old batteries to random addresses I find online so I don't have to deal with them. I'm counting it

>>105761516
"hispanics" is a wide continuum that includes Mediterranean people born in LA, Aztecs/Incas and everything in between (plus negros)

>>105753760 (OP)
I repaired an old alienware that was unused the other month. Opened it, cleaned it and replaced the CMOS battery. Runs like a charm.

>>105754997
A lot of new players are android-based, which is good for software support and saves the manufacturer from having to make a new media library program. You get the library and DSP you want. Downside is it's extremely inefficient compared to a simple device that just has a basic microcontroller, dot matrix screen, decoder chip and DAC.

>>105753760 (OP)
>>105753858
>>105753926
For most products this is true, but it can get complicated when data is involved. I replaced the battery on my iPhone 6s. It would have made more sense financially to get a professional to do it but I’m a privacy nut and hadn’t wiped the data off of it before the battery died. Similarly I’ve had lots of problems I could have solved with hardware upgrades but it would involve migrating all of my data first.

>>105753760 (OP)
I've done all kinds of repairs on mostly desktop/laptop hardware, although I have also done repairs on other devices too.

>>105753760 (OP)
I have fixed many mouses. I still have an intellimouse 1.1se but have replaced the USB cable, the switches, the wheel...

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ship_of_Theseus

>>105753760 (OP)
I do actually
>replaced my blu ray drive on my ps3
>fixed my ps3 controllers
>fixed my psp and vita
>replaced faulty switches with soldering on my cheap ass mechanical keyboard
I did more fixes in the past, but you get the point. I dont give up on my devices

>>105753760 (OP)
Yes of course (and not only electronics)
I'm also regularly molested by my cat, just like Louis

3D printed a headband piece for otherwise great sounding 7yo Beyerdynamic headphones. It felt wrong, like I was breaking some law.

I think I've been too conditioned to CONSOOM

I completely destroyed a mechanical keyboard while swapping all the switches. The new switches had two plastic pins that the board couldn't accommodate, but there were white circles printed on the board exactly matching those. So I drilled holes inside many of those circles, replaced a few switches, and tested the keyboard. Most buttons didn't work, so I disassembled it and looked at the other side of the board.
Turns out the fucking chinks printed those circles for no reason, many had traces running underneath.
Some traces I could fix with solder bridges, but a few were damaged in 2-3 places so I had to bypass them with new wires.
Also used the opportunity to cut the cable and solder a USB-C header, which is a win.

yeah I love it even though I'm bad at it.
Next electronic item I get I'm going to look for a broken one and repair it.

>>105754062
They actually do though.

>>105764879
>randomly drill holes through a PCB
>wtf!?!?! i can't believe the chinese did this to me

>>105764879
well they didn't put them there for drill guides. it'll likely just be the footprint for the component, just visual so it doesn't need to be accurate
>fucking chinks
says they guy who didn't even check before drilling...

>>105764963
>>105764994
>didn't even check
Easier said than done. Switches are hot swappable, but to inspect the board required taking it apart.
Anyway, I had to snip the little plastic pins off every switch and then they fit. Should have done this from the get go, would have saved me a lot of grief.

>>105753760 (OP)
i had to take apart my shitty hhkb the other day to fix it because they dont do repairs if that counts

Yes I just repaired my mouse by ripping out useless shit I don't want or need that was causing issues.

>>105767491
Also I've soldering new cables onto my shitty biodegradable MBP charger like at least 7 times now.

>>105765527
>randomly drill holes through a PCB
>wtf!?!?! i can't believe the chinese did this to me

>>105764879
Exact same energy as people that saw off the useless tops of heat-pipes when they can't fit things in their chassis.

>>105753760 (OP)
Yep.
Annoying as fuck, but cheap.
No bullshit you have to deal with.

>>105753993
>Professional repair tools (because cheap tools are useless) and work hours.
If you're not a chad.

>>105754068
Yeah but those tvs are designed to fail and right to repair is made harder and harder (and more expensive) just so they can get away with this racket.
Then again, das capital I guess?

>>105754230
Old consoles and pcs are the big one for me. I cannot get that fixed or replaced at that point.

>>105754258
Those goods would be made for cheap in western countries if China hadn't fucked around with it's monetary policies years ago. Ironically they are EXTREMELY overpriced now for what quality they are - fucking shithouse.
But then politicians and CEOs also got kickbacks for reinforcing this shit.

In my country, we subsidise gas export prices so China can buy it super cheap because a couple politicians signed a contract with them in the 00s and got kickbacks from it. How those politicians are still walking alive is beyond me. They should be lynched at this stage, John Howard.

>>105768081
jeet detected

>>105768506
Jeet?
What, for criticising their repeat of the Asian Tiger fuckery?

>>105768655
>we subsidise gas export prices so China can buy it super cheap because a couple politicians signed a contract with them in the 00s and got kickbacks from it.
literally jeet history, this happened

>>105759545
For me it's

>>105768730
>>105768506
Literally the one good post made by a jeet and you seethe about it

Yes I'm not a zoomer with 70 IQ.

>>105768730
I literally called out John "less sell the Pilbara to China for cheap" Howard.
Fuck off, faggot.

In fact, say faggot right now to prove you aren't the pajeet.

>>105768739
>SAAAR I PREPONE HATE THE CHINESE WHY YOU DONT LIKE????

>>105768982
Shut the fuck up faggot australian, post hands or forever be known as a jeet. or worse yet, an ABBO

>>105753760 (OP)
yes. but only simple stuff like changing the microswitches of my mouse or opening up an old fan and clean+grease it to make it run again, opening debugging and fixing an old scale. stuff like that nothing crazy.

>>105768017
Except mine's with a happy ending.

>>105767996
Oh no, the shame of having destroyed a $25 keyboard!

>>105769419
>Except mine's with a happy ending.
Yeah. It's commendable that you repaired it and I'm sure you learned something. I just find it very funny that you would drill through the PCB.

>>105754631
Oh no..

>>105754631
KEK WHAT A BITCH

I tried for 2 weeks to fix my s8 through ifixit, but the useless ESL morons I dealt with kept sending me the wrong parts, so I just bought a knew one.

>>105769804
>knew one
Please redeem tnew bastard!

>>105754881
>mfw i try to repair something following an 12 year old youtube video

fixed my macbook screen
constant fixing and maintaining my 3d printer
fixed my dad's laptop's hinges
modded my kb to have removable cable
replaced analog thumbsticks on ps3 controllers

most of the time is simply opening stuff and swapping parts, sometimes desoldering things or splicing wires but is more than most normgroids do

>>105764879
yep the BAD DRAGON keyboard has some cheapo switches with thinner stems. you can swap the switches by carefully grinding the stems of the new switches but it's a extremely time-consuming process. you're better off now listening to tranny memes and accepting the outemu switches it comes with.

>>105753760 (OP)
For every 1 device I fix, I leave another 4-5 fubar.

>>105753760 (OP)
Yes, plenty of times, I have done it for others too. Modern shit sucks though, having to deal with all of the adhesives is no fun.
But I have only soldered non computer boards, no micro soldering for me, not that good.

>>105753760 (OP)
Yes, I have replaced the battery in my electric toothbrush and the button in my gf's electric toothbrush. I have replaced a switch in a mouse, I have changed some capacitors in various devices ...

Yes, I repair some simple stuff like mice or the Switch Joycons, PC stuff, etc.
Shit's easy but most people don't realize that.

>>105769822
>following an 12 year old youtube video
And what's wrong with that exactly?

>>105753760 (OP)
Yeah, it's not hard if you're not a sub-90 IQ moron.

>>105753760 (OP)
I once replaced the fan in my HDD enclosure since it started sounding like a crotch rocket at max revs. I haven't done anything more complex because I haven't had any real issues that I can think of. Any issues I can recall were utterly fucked or not worth the effort.

>>105753760 (OP)
I changed the muffs on my headphones once, felt like an engineer

>>105753760 (OP)
Yeah. One time the touch screen on my Black Friday Edition 3DS was failing, so I bought a replacement digitizer off amazon and swapped it out.

>>105753760 (OP)
All the time for simpler stuff, but I recognize my limits. I'm not gonna spend $500 in gear and another $100 in parts to attempt to reball a CPU on a laptop motherboard and break it worse, only to have to spend $500 anyway on a new laptop. There's a tipping point where I don't have the money to spend on hobbyist (much less production tier) tools to fuck around for the next month failing to fix something. I have shit to do. If I can't fix it with a multimeter and a regular soldering iron or bypass a busted safety switch or plug and play replace a screen with just a screwdriver and some time, then I replace whatever electronic device and move on.

>>105754095
>the pro move is to get junked equipment and salvage it
Have you looked at eBay prices for "for parts" electronics? Holy fuck these jews want to give you a 10% discount vs new on something that very obviously needs something that will cost you 40% of the cost of the device to replace and that may not even be all that it needs. There are other sources and I respect that but I don't have those in my area. I'm only saying eBay is a fucking racket.

>>105772045
>I'm only saying eBay is a fucking racket.
I once thought I should repair joycons in my area. The refurbished joycons cost less than the broken ones...

>>105754363

>>105768081
>How those politicians are still walking alive is beyond me. They should be lynched at this stage, John Howard.
Then DO IT. don't just talk about it.

>>105753760 (OP)
I once brought my smartphone to a shop to have the battery replaced. The battery and repair was a little over $100, and I had to give my password to the shop so they could repair. They installed some diagnostic BS into it and didn't uninstall it when returned. Then I realized I would have been better off just buying a new phone.

Fighting against planned obsolescence designed by manufacturers will make you a loser every time.

>>105769925
>carefully grinding the stems
Yup, had to do that as well. Somehow erased it out of my memory.
It had the blue switches, loud as hell, replaced with silent ones.
But yeah, the whole grinding/drilling/fixing/swapping process took two days, absolutely dreadful.

>>105772045
>>105772055

>>105772227
I've peeked a little. Not a lot of electronics thrown away. What I see more often is low quality wood which always gets me excited at first and then I see it's just particle wood :(

I try to fix most things because I learn more that way.

>>105753760 (OP)
my old video game consoles all the team. Got tired of fixing them up though and just emulate them now.

>>105772227
What dumpsters do you dive? Like, in the back of BestBuy or Target or something? Won't they all have security cameras?

Yes, I can proudly say I have repaired assets I own.

>>105753760 (OP)
I repaired a vacuum cleaner today.

>>105753760 (OP)
Floor fans, notebook keyboard replacements, coffee makers, rice cooker, radios, water pumps, disc cutter, so many mouses...
I'm probably forgetting some stuff but safe to say I've done my bit to make Mr. Clinton the cat proud.

>>105754068
See:>>105757573

You can buy the backlight replacements on ali express for $11

>>105753760 (OP)
I replaced the battery on my first-run Switch 1 when it swelled and cracked the top of the chassis. It was working still but I obviously didn't want to stay with a swollen battery and gaping chassis. The crack remains but it's small so I ignore it.
I have an extra PS3 with a loose HDMI port that causes a bad signal; could probably be a simple fix but I've never done board work before and would have to buy a kit but I think it would be a good first project.

>>105754997
>is there any possibility of a mod? like using a battery larger than the original in capacity?
NTA
You'll have to mod the BMS too and then the software has to understand that and make proper use of it. The software is probably locked down tight and you're not gonna get anywhere near it.

>>105772550
Ali express is your friend

>>105753760 (OP)
the retarded rear bike lights all use small built-in batteries, so i saved my "expensive" led lenser rear light by pulling out the built-in pill li-ion and wired a removable 18650

>>105753951
>No, because in most cases, repairing is not worth the hassle.
this is often true like with a cracked LCD screen, such a pain in the ass
there are other cases like:
>>105753847
>No, I recently wanted to repair something and realized it just needed a replaced battery I couldn't find so I gave up.
where it is feasible
for example I have a infrared camera that is pretty pricey with a busted battery due to age. I couldn't find a replacement fitment battery, but I found a larger one at the same voltage and installed. Now it has better battery life and installing another battery, eventually, would be quite easy.

>>105772571
Thanks anon, maybe I'll give it a try and sell it if I don't fuck it up.

no

I exclusively buy and fix broken shit on ebay. I haven't bought any tech new in over 10 years now. GPU's, motherboards, phones, ipads, my wifes macbook etc.

Not learning to repair is like being proud of not going to the gym.

>>105753760 (OP)
does replacing a phone screen count?

>>105753760 (OP)
Sometimes I brush a bit of spit into the switches of my mouse to stop it from double clicking or losing grip when I drag a click.

>>105777241
>other one rather fucks off than letting him in the car

wat

>>105753760 (OP)
Yeah. Even yesterday I repaired a PSU that I made myself.

>>105754258
MAKE AMERICA FIX AGAIN

>>105772397
Too bad he didn't answer. I want to get old electronics.

>>105780356
>>105772397
see
>>105754141
>dumpster diving at the local e-waste place

>>105780506
>>dumpster diving at the local e-waste place
No getting smelly for me then :(

>>105753760 (OP)
Yes, mostly old video game consoles. You cannot buy them new any more, and a lot of the time issues arise from old electrolytic capacitors. Honestly though I end up modding more than repairing. It's a fun hobby once you build up some confidence.

yes i repaur shit constantly. repaired an asus laptop screen just a couple of months ago. repaired a unihertz phone screen just last week.
always cheaper to just fix shit. wish more shit was fixable.
Tired of spending cash on disposable garbage.
Tired of upgrading because jeets cant fuckin code.
currently taking apart an old HP slatebook x2 (tegra4 android tablet laptop convertable) to see if i can cram a newer SBC in that bitch, likely not prolly proprietary bullshit connectors to prevent using the perfectly good touchscreen and keyboard.
depends though got a lenovo AIO from the same era that actually had a standard screen connector type. able to recycle that with a raspberry pi.
People who nay-say repairs are shills who work for dickheads that have something else (also fuckin garbage) to sell ya.

RIGHT TO REPAIR!!!
FUCK APPLE!!!

>>105782309
>t.

>>105753760 (OP)

My kitchen lights stopped working, all three of them at the same time. I correctly identified it as a switch issue, found the product number of the switch used and ordered one from China.

I then disassembled the casing and replaced the switch and everything works great now. Saved god knows how much money by not getting an electrician.

>>105782393
And you only had to cook in the dark for three weeks too. Hard to argue with that.

>>105782561
lamp

>>105753760 (OP)
Of course but most of my work was wiring my shops, air compressors and phase converter. I use VFD for lathe and mill since I want the speed control function.

>>105783700
>I want the speed control function
I can understand why for the mill, but why do you need that for the lathe?
t. retard

>>105753760 (OP)
yes
when i was a child i fixed a keyboard my cat threw up on
i fixed a ps2 controller that had sticky buttons

>>105753760 (OP)
When something of mine breaks I throw it into the nearest trash, then I buy a new better one.

My time is worthless so I can spend hours repairing things, but for an actual employed FAGMAN I can't envision it being worth your time (unless it's a learning thing / for fun, of course)

>>105753760 (OP)
replaced phone batteries, screens, faulty 3.5mm jacks etc. Mostly old iphones. idk why some westerns afraid to do simple stuff like that. You save a lot of money.

>>105753760 (OP)
I had an iphone 8 that was experiencing battery issues, swelled up so bad it lifted the screen out of the screws. Warranty replaced it but they didn't take the phone back - bought a replacement battery and it was as good as new. iphones are are actually pretty easy to teardown

>>105753951
this is what i do with my PC
dead RAM stick? buy a whole new prebuilt

>>105753760 (OP)

Does replacing the rubber domes of my keyboard as they tear from use count? I've replaced around 4 so far with the ones from an older keyboard.
I've also cleaned my mouse because so much lint had built up that the scroll wheel stopped working, I actually had to break the plastic bits of the screws that held it closed but it works now and the screws were completely redundant since the parts snap together.

>>105779629
According to the interview, he decided not to open the door so the bees wouldn't get in and sting his partner (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIF6W5WFPsI) pretty cool if true, even if it was not the smartest decision.

>>105769822
Oh that's good, the crow is like fuck this shit!

Some time ago I read about how each part of the French nuclear doctrine doesn't know what each part does.

>>105753799
did he call you a tranny?

>>105753760 (OP)
why is the cat pogging?

>>105753760 (OP)
Yes, but I'm an EE who designed most devices I get to service. Most modern devices are not designed with repair in mind, which sucks so much. I would love to start a company specializing in building house-hold devices that are designed for repair / maintenance in mind to make it easy for people to get replacement parts with minimal fuss so guys can impress their waifus by being Mr. Handyman at home, being able to fix / modify their high quality devices that are a bit overbuild to make them heirloom-level-quality devices that will be passed down from generation to generation so we can minimize the e-trash we heap onto our planet to make it a problem for future generations or third world countries. This "buy-cheap and replace every year"-mentality is utter trash. I want men (and maybe some handy lesbians) to be able to fix their own, basic machines they need at home. Too bad there's no market to support such a company as most people are content with buying cheap shit that they can toss anytime something simple breaks, because, you know, fuck future generation and why buy once for a bit more to get high quality if you can buy some cheap shit once a year.

>>105753760 (OP)
Had some LED IPS LG monitor from 2012. In like 2018 the thing started to have issues turning on, it would take longer and longer. I ended up replacing the internal board, with a slightly different SKU but it was still compatible. Then it started happening again. Turns out the damn power brick was slowly dying and couldn't provide enough power anymore. The new board I put it was like 2-3w lower, hence it initially worked fine.
Very retarded ik

>>105753760 (OP)
I routinely fix
> gaming consoles
> appliance control boards
> automotive ECUs

>>105753858
bet you use apple too
just works, right?

>>105791382
What do you mean "designed to repair"?
It's literally just caps, resistors, and solder. Also, the average normalfuck can't even sharpen their lawn mower blades, so good luck.

>>105792576
>the average normalfuck can't even sharpen their lawn mower blades
because of the cheap shit problem he described, we are becoming less skilled in general as a population

>>105753760 (OP)
I swapped out about 50 transistors from a failing TR909 drum machine

all the time, really depends what it is though. Many devices just need a cleaning or a replacement component. I have gaming mice that have been in service for 12 years and only need the occasional switch replacement. Swapping or converting a cable is generally pretty easy and has saved me a bunch of money on headphones over the years. These days with most of my sets i just mod them to have a detachable cable first thing. Keyboards are easy enough, doing capacitor or resistor swaps are simple, replacing dead led's or fixing bad fans is fine. Fixing a phone screen or replacing mobile batteries is also pretty simple.

For all of the above its significantly cheaper and often times faster to just repair something than it is to replace it. Where it starts getting dicey is when you start doing more board level is when that metric starts to get dicey. Diagnostics of more complex issues can be rough and then sourcing components can be brutal - not to mention you pretty much need a hot air station and sometimes a microscope to see whats going on. Whether or not its worth it to go this far on something really depends on the situation and whether you enjoy doing this kind of thing. The people who say shit like "im not poor" are retards as repairing something isn't always about the cost.

Also rossman is an obnoxious faggot

>>105792576
I was talking about mostly mechanical parts that often break in house-hold machines that are either stupidly expensive to get from the original manufacturer or are not available at all. I was thinking more about parts like the blades of my mixer or some custom sprockets that break and make the whole machine useless. Open hardware projects would be ideal so even small machine shops (or even individuals with a CNC-mill in their garage) could offer parts of known open hardware products to make some cash on the side, ideally using Monero to not bleed more than we already do. But it's just a dream that's too big to get into reality as it involves too many people and I guess most people don't see the advantage of really owning their own devices.
>designed for repair
The open hardware designs should be designed according to rules like: Don't use glue on parts that have to be disassembled, don't design parts that require specialized equipment, don't use screws with weird driver geometry, use sustainable materials were possible, etc.

I guess I've been pretty fortunate and haven't really had things break on me much. I replaced a cable on an old mouse years ago. Somewhat more recently but still a while back I fixed the right bumper button on my Steam controller. A plastic bit which actuated the button had broken from use over many years, I cut and bent a piece of thin sheet metal in the right shape and I managed to fix it. The bumper button doesn't have the same feel as it used to but it does work reliably.

I have an old portable CD player back from when I was a kid that no longer works (seems to not receive power, neither from batteries nor from an external adapter) that I wanted to have a look at, but I haven't yet.

>>105792709
>rossman is an obnoxious faggot
Yeah, his holier than thou crap and way of talking make his videos jarring to watch/listening to, just from the presentation point of view. I usually agree with most of his points but the tone makes the music and his type of presentation ruins it for me. Also, his insistence to call electronic parts with their MPN instead of things like "5V linear regulator" with his obnoxious way of speaking made me cringe so hard that I rarely watch any of his videos (and I watch all kinds of slop while I'm doing manual tasks).

>>105789065
No he called me a chud for believing in self-sufficency.

>>105791382
That's copyrighted works that's equivalent to piracy. You have no right to repair.

>>105753760 (OP)
I have repaired;
multiple printers,
A PSP
A SNES
A garage door detection module for opening/closing
Loose outlets
A PC monitor
A refrigerator water dispenser
A 1960s industrial metal standing fan
And that's just the electronics.
Fixing stuff is fun and for the most part it's pretty easy

>>105753760 (OP)
Toaster oven. Door didn't open because the spring connected to it was misaligned. Fixed it by opening up the oven and poking at the spring with a screwdriver.

>so many replies saying consoles
maybe i'm just not enough of a GAYMER but the only console i've ever had fail ws an xbox 360

>>105791382
>company specializing in building house-hold devices that are designed for repair / maintenance in mind to make it easy for people to get replacement parts with minimal fuss
Every time a company like this comes to me, it ends up like Framework where the base unit is five times the price of anything similar and the replacement parts are proprietary "Oh it failed? Shell out for a new one, goy!" except instead of replacing a 500$ whole unit, you buy a 499$ part for a 1800$ unit.

>>105793474
Sure but that's just a scaling issue due to the homeopathic amount of Framework devices on the market. I was talking about devices that almost EVERYONE needs at home, like a water-kettle. Specialized devices like Framework laptops probably have a terrible market-share and are produced in tiny lots where each part is expensive to manufacture.

Speaking of water kettles. I don't know who started that stupid trend of building a beeper into devices like electric water-kettles or microwave-ovens but that person needs to get a sounding probe shoved deep into his urethra after dipping that probe in Carolina Reaper extract.
>increase power setting of microwave-oven: BEEP
>change other settings: BEEP BEEP BEEEEEP
I'm standing right in fucking front of the device while I'm touching the fucking controls! Why the fuck does that piece of shit give me acoustic feedback like this? Does it assume that my fingers are numb? My fucking EYES can see that the settings change after I touch the fucking controls.
And don't get me started on my stupid water-kettle that keeps beeping after the water comes to a boil. And why wasn't this stated on the package of the device that it's beeping constantly like a fucking annoying retard?

>>105754103
You're on /g/ - H1B, of course they don't
They don't get expensive things tends to be easier to repair and have more incentive to do so because they want to be able to sell service plans.

>>105793646
>like a water-kettle.
a water kettle is one switch and two sensors. i'm not going to buy your "repairable" one for 1359.99 + tax + ship + tip when I can take the one I found on the side of the road apart with a kitchen knife and a nickel (it's not even old, I found the same model on sale at Canadian Tire recently)

> Why the fuck does that piece of shit give me acoustic feedback like this? Does it assume that my fingers are numb?
yes. it does. yet again a supposed "engineer" has no idea how to design things for actual humans. and dumb "engineer" you can just unscrew a couple panels and cut the buzzer out, and many modern microwaves have a setting to make it stop beeping, RETARD

>>105793661
>easy to repair
>to shill service plans
yes anon, what a great business idea, make the device able to be repaired by the user so that they will pay the seller to do it

>>105793718
No, that's the thing. These fuckers glued the panel so it ends up looking like shit after I rip that glues panel off to snip the wires of that fucking beeper.
Snipping the wires of the beeper of my microwave oven was the first thing I did after getting annoyed by it, which was done in a couple minutes because the chassis had screws instead of fixing shit in place with fucking glue.

Also, YOU WILL BUY MY HEIRLOOM QUALITY LEVEL water-kettle, goyim!

>>105793798
>Also, YOU WILL BUY MY HEIRLOOM QUALITY LEVEL water-kettle, goyim!
yet again protestant wh*tes prove themselves to be more jewish than the entire state of israel

>>105793818
It was just joke, anon, I'm actually German.

>>105793718
Also, that water-kettle was the sort that is a bit more complicated than a heating element and two switches because it can control the final temperature to prepare tea at the right temperature. It has some color LEDs to indicate its state so an acoustic signal is not at all necessary and it annoys me so much that I'm considering to toss that piece of shit to replace it with a simple one with just a regular temperature-trip-switch with no electronics at all.

>>105753760 (OP)
I've had software bugs with a TV I bought so I reported the bug to them but I knew that they will never fix it (they never did) so I asked for source code as well and they denied. So I couldn't fix it. I could have probably found and fixed the issue in 10 minutes, but no. Fuck proprietary software.

i take all my beer cans and bottles at home and crush them up into little cubes to smelt them (separately of course im not an alchemical monster trying to alloy aluminum and glass)

>>105793646
>Why the fuck does that piece of shit give me acoustic feedback like this? Does it assume that my fingers are numb?
Feels more satisfying and helps you if you're not fully concentrated on your highly important tasking of heating your stale tendies

>>105793798
>heirloom quality
>because some retarded techbro designed it with 99 naked rasppis inside to use blockchain powered AI to interpret the temperature data to keep the kettle at the optimal temperature of boiling water for tea (100 degrees celsius)
>but it's ok because he used screws instead of "one-way" clips