Moving forward with other candidates edition

>Interviewing
Neetcode 150: https://neetcode.io/practice
Tips and interview practice: https://blog.interviewing.io/

>How to write a resume
https://stackoverflow.blog/2020/11/25/how-to-write-an-effective-developer-resume-advice-from-a-hiring-manager/

>Salary Stuff
"What's your expected salary?": https://www.fearlesssalarynegotiation.com/salary-expectations-interview-question/
Negotiation advice: https://github.com/petermekhaeil/salary-negotiating
Salary data: https://levels.fyi/

>Software Development & Programming
GitHub Trending - https://github.com/trending
DevDocs - https://devdocs.io/
JavaScript, CSS, HTML sandbox - https://jsfiddle.net/
MDN Web Docs - https://developer.mozilla.org/
Stack Overflow Blog - https://stackoverflow.blog/

>IT Operations & Infrastructure
AWS Service Health Dashboard - https://status.aws.amazon.com/
Cloudflare System Status - https://www.cloudflarestatus.com/
DownDetector - https://downdetector.com/
Microsoft Azure Status - https://status.azure.com/
Microsoft Office 365 Status - https://portal.office.com/servicestatus

>Unemployment Advice
Interview Prep - https://www.wikihow.com/Ask-Your-Parents-for-Money
Building a Resume - https://www.wikihow.com/Write-a-Manifesto
Salary Stuff - https://www.usa.gov/benefit-finder/disability
Emotional Support - https://lostallhope.com/suicide-methods/statistics-most-lethal-methods
People who will be joining us shortly - https://layoffs.fyi

>International Job Boards
LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/
Indeed - https://www.indeed.com/
Hiring Cafe - https://hiring.cafe/
YCombinator - https://www.workatastartup.com/companies
Wellfound - https://wellfound.com/jobs

>Anti-Pajeet Job Boards
USAJobs - https://www.usajobs.gov/
Clearancejobs - https://www.clearancejobs.com/

Previous: >>105791554

First (cuz I got no job)

has anyone ever been hired via open job boards like linkedin without prior recommendation or such?
my applications always go straight to the bin.

im an entry level IT tech and im pretty sure the only reason i just got hired is because im the only one in the area. im like 99% sure they would have gone with any other candidate had the job been remote and im 100% sure it would have been some filipino or pajeet so they can pay them $2/hr

>>105810189
2 of my 4 previous jobs were from linkedin. Of the other 2, 1 was because I was recruited out of the top school in the domain in the middle of a minor bubble and the orher was because my employer got acquired. I have tried all other avenues, from cold emails to references, and that never got anywhere. Even with references I usually get 0 contact.

I have an exam next week for an application developer job for my county. Idk what to even expect.

Exit plans?

>>105810381
jumping off a tall building is literally failproof

>>105810468
far too many things can go wrong. Try a shotgun to the head or if you can't, eat some lily of the valley's.

You were promoted to senior eng before AI takes over. Right? You secured your job prospects, right?

>>105810851
I got laid off as senior at sp500 company and former fagman and I have failed 6 on-sites now. Hoping for good news Monday.

>>105810851
I had the chance but I screwed it up. Now I'm fucked

>>105810851
yes, but it's bot helping

>>105810851
i was a bootcamp java dev from 2016 to 2019
havent worked since
its over

>>105811244
How did you lose your job during the golden years?

>>105810280
Have any certs/degree?

>>105810004 (OP)
we have had the same edition for 3 threads now

>>105810851
>implying seniors are safe

>>105810004 (OP)
I will paypal 500 dollars (how much I make in a day) to the first person who can correctly guess my job based on my pinned taskbar apps.

>>105812411
unemployed

>>105812411
coom slop farmer

>>105812411
>edge still in the taskbar
>willingly using W11
>not using dark mode/a dark theme
pajeet shill

>>105812372
>staying more than 10 years in a single company

Thats retarded, if you stay in a company too much your skills stagnate and you stop learning because you start to become a manager. Always stay on top of the game.

Do you guys think the job market will improve by next summer? I'm tired of slaving away at walmart.

>>105813133
I'd rather be a no skill manager with higher pay and lower workload
than a skilled drone would obeys orders for pennies

>>105813375
Even if it did how would you explain the time you were working at walmart

>>105813133
>AIEEEEE GETTING A PROMOTION AND MORE PAY, AUGHHHH I CANT BELIEVE ANYONE WOULD WANT THATTTT

new job dropped for cs majors

Found this mofo on Reddit. Some highlights in the comments:

>You’ve posted this 10 times already across multiple subreddits. What’s your end goal with all this?
>I'm going to buck the trend of offering advice like these other comments and make it even worse for you. You're 22 and when you finally do get a job you're looking at 40 years minimum of being a wage slave, alienated from your labor, punished for attempting to create value outside of what the company directs. You will be asked for your opinion, then ordered to go do exactly what you said by management as if it was their idea in the first place, who will then claim your work as their victory, with the management above you getting rotating promotions every 2 years to keep you from developing any long-lasting relationships or power base while they get rewarded just for keeping you from going postal under their "leadership". Even with a job you statistically won't be able to afford a house for 20 more years. You will run the numbers of how your family/friends managed to afford their lifestyle just 10 years ago and it will keep you up at night. You will vacillate between being glad you aren't in an El Salvadorian Auschwitz 2 and wondering why none of your peers seem to think anything is wrong with the state of things and refuse to organize against the oppressive system. If you're lucky, you will live long enough to viscerally experience every statement in this comment.
>I highly recommend that you consider going to a trade school for medical. Either medical assistant or medical office work...
>You should work in Yellowstone the rest of the summer or something similar. Look at this as an opportunity. If you really want to do CS now you might need a masters degree.

>>105813386
>he thinks he will get higher pay and less workload

Lol, I see in the logs my manager in some meeting at 11pm and I def dont want his life for a measly % rise. I guess its a zoomer thing, you can be the overachiever tho!

>>105813866
This nigga probably posts here too.

>>105813866
I just wanna make a living

>>105814217
Same. I've even been looking at other work but there's fucking nothing, everything demands experience and certs.
>farming
Chemical cert.
>construction
Construction cert, MR licenses.
>warehouses
Forklift licenses, often manual licenses.
>moving guys
Manual license.
>find a job that has none of the above under your 10km filter?
It's actually 40-50km away.

>>105812411
Embedded Systems Engineer or Hardware-Focused Software Developer

Guess my job based on my taskbar.

>>105810004 (OP)
Hey /g/, so I have been jobless for almost 2 years, the first one I was trying to make my own biz (and lost and didn't work out in this shit economy), and second one I have been trying to find a job. I am and EE in the field of robotics/drones, my resume is impressive and so is my past project portfolio, have 10+ yoe and even post grad education, and can NOT find a job (Canada), in the past year I had only 3 interviews after 100s of applications, some of the jobs I applied for matches exactly what I do, some I am waaay over qualified and yet, only 3 interviews and got ghosted after not even mentioning why. One of them was in the US as well but even that didn't work out.
what am I suppose to do, seriously?! I'm going suicidal at this point, not just I feel worthless piece of shit that all the efforts I put so far incl my school are for nothing, but I'm burning through my saving and would literally end up homeless.. any advise or anything, maybe job sites other than the popular ones or anything could help, I have been having panic attacks a lot recently which I never had before, can't even go to sleep too, what the fuck am I suppose to do!!

>>105814373
gay

>>105814460
America's fucked because of a bad economy, the Canadian economy was aborted.
I don't think anyone can give realistic advice here.

>>105814044
>meeting at 11pm
I guarantee you they weren't talking about work. Probably just chatting and making chill plans with other managers lmao

>>105813555
your promotion means more work for at best a 3% increase. The vast majority of companies have stopped promoting ages ago. Job hopping gives you the same.promotion with a 20% raise.

>>105814044
you clearly have never been near a manager while they """work""" lmao.
Partying is not work.

>>105814460
Moved to Europe last year because I was in your situation except cs. On top of that the goyvernment never paid me the EI I am entitled to and I almost went homeless.
There basically hasn't been a job market in cucknada since 2017 or so. 0 jobs of any kind. Even the shitty mom and pop shops thar pay $50k in downtown torotten don't hire.

>>105815031
If you're the same one I remember I thought you moved to America.

>>105812372
This a bad example. Guy rewrote TypeScript compiler in Go. For those of you who are slow, TypeScript is a Microsoft product, Go is a Google product, it's the equivalent of working in McDonald's and telling customers to go over the road to KFC when they order chicken.

>>105815038
I don't know whom you remember but beside short stints in the US under lucky circumstances that son't really qualify for anything, that wasn't me.
But until recently anyone even remotely competent from cucknada would indeed go to the us asap because even when jobs still existed, there was never a future in this shithole.

>>105814276
>>105814217
do something about indians or accept youre never gonna have a job

>>105815053
>>Golang is a product
What? That's not how it works.

>>105815053
He used the best tool for the job you retard.

>>105815097
Everything is a product.
>>105815114
Clearly not otherwise he would still have the job.

>>105815135
Why are you so autistically determined that that's why he was fired?

When I was young I use to laugh at construction workers going "Dey took 'er jerbs!!", calling them racists and bigots. Now I'm on the other end, and I understand everything. The irony is real and life is a farce. This must be how people in the south felt when all of a sudden darker skinned people were replacing them. Wait, is history actually repeating itself?

>>105815149
not him but it does make perfect sense. Even the peanut gallery has been asking why he used go and not c#.

>>105815155
Why the fuck would you use C# for a compiler?

>>105815161
Ocaml is the most popular language for compilers. Why use go? F# is still on .net and is m$'s ocaml. If go is acceptable, c# is the on-brand option.

>>105815161
>why use company product for company product

>>105815187
Holy shit you're retarded. Do you think they don't use macbooks at MS or thinkpads at Apple?

>>105815177
C# is not an on-brand option. C# is a JIT language, it's not made for compiling.
May as well say he should've used fucking javascript.

>>105815205
The kind of hardware employees use is internal, it is not public facing. Rewriting the TypeScript compiler in Go is not an internal matter, it is public, there are millions of eyes watching, not sure what you don't understand about this.

>>105815254
Compiled code isn't public facing either retard.
Do you think he just did it on his own, that there was no green light from his boss?
You know what else has millions of eyes watching? The performance of the typescript compiler. Why would you ever think a man that was laid off alongside 6000 other employees was laid off because of the correct tool he chose to use?

You literal retard, how are you even in this thread when you're this technologically illiterate?

>>105815205
retarded or just pretending?

>>105815205
they don't use thinkpads at apple and until satya they didn't use macbooks at m$. Go be 12 somewhere else.

>>105815290
he was the org lead though so he didn't need any upstream tech review/greenlight.

>>105815290
>Compiled code
What? we're talking about the compiler itself.

>>105815381
>and until satya they didn't use macbooks at m$.
aka they use macbooks at MS.

>>105815417
Do you think compilers aren't compiled? No one fucking cares what language it's written in, they want it to be fast and bug free.
I can't believe you people are even trying to pretend that you should write a proper compiler in C#. If it were just a proof of concept or a toy program then sure, but it wasn't.

>>105815451
This is boring now, you can do whatever you like, just keep in mind that if you happen to be the head of a team at a company you will be fired if you make the company look bad by using competitor's product to build your own.

>>105815451
b8 or genuinely retarded?

>>105815464
You still haven't told my why you're so certain that he was fired for that when he was fired alongside 6000 other people.
Do you think that google products refuse to use typescript?

I shouldn't have dropped out of nursing. I should've instead partied hard during my CS years. I could have a girlfriend now. Or a fuckbuddy. Or a family with kids. Not this. I never opted for this. Now I'm rotting and after 4 years of useless work I I am forced to do "Leetcode" just for a chance at a job. This career couldn't be more clownish.

>>105815053
Companies will... Use other companies' products when appropriate? Especially when they don't have an in-house equivalent?? OH MY CAPITALISM WHY IS THIS ALLLOWED

>>105815008
>stopped promoting
join the military
>>105814531
>realistic advice
see above

>>105815607
>>105815151
Worst thing is those in CS are quite smug. I still remember some smug POS bragging about how the company he works for is replacing low skilled data entry workers years before ChatGPT was a thing. Now? AI is replacing him as well. Good luck with that.

>>105815696
software people of any sort are always the most smug out of touch losers on the planet. hardware people from lowly hell desk repairmen to actual electrical engineers tend to be more down to earth. IDK why, I guess it's because they are actual maintaners/craftsmen/engineers rather than microservice bashing COTS kitbashers. Ohm's Law will never betray you but if you make an entire career of knowing how to do Hello World in the latest meme framework i guess it causes brain damage

>>105815696
AI isn't replacing devs right now. Sure it's limiting the need for as many devs, but it's not outright replacing them. I give it 5 years for juniors to be (more) fucked.
Hell AI can't even replace helpdesk because no one likes interacting with it and it's shit.

>>105815767
no one likes interacting with helldesk even when it's staffed by competent humans though.

>>105815796
Doesn't change that people would rather interface with a human.

>>105815818
>>105815796
A true chad "tech support" page would just be a browsable repository of all the technical documents available for the product so you can figure out and fix the issue yourself.

For turbo-normies just give them a copy of the script a helldesker would read you after you call on your boomer home phone

>>105815451
If compilers are compiled, what is going to compile the compilers that are compiled?

>>105815892
some dude flipping DIP switches on a board

>>105815878
That doesn't work very well when half the people calling in don't know how to reset their password.

>>105815906
then they perish. Maybe instead of HR Roasts demanding 400 years of salesforce experience they should make sure people know how to send an e-mail without setting themselves on fire

>>105815765
The opposite. Hw retards are the least skilled on the planet but think they're geniuses and nobody else can do what they do.
Only the dudebros that invaded tech (and jeets) do that in swland.

>>105816016
name one hardware oriented techbro(derogatory)

>>105815053
wait until you find out who made react native for macos

>>105816104
8 bit guy

RIDE A DILDO LIKE A DISCO

>>105816408
I own four dragon dildos and not one of em fits down to the knot

>>105816422
just gotta practice more

>>105811651
i was a very bad developper and burnt out quickly

i am white, tall, young, healthy and yet i cannot land a job ( without connection ) and everyone i know that landed job got it via some kind of connection, and no, freelance shit is not a job
in sales/management department

>>105811244
genuinely curious. what do you plan on doing with your life?

>>105816606
>burnt out
AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>105812411
>windows
nothing of worth

>>105812411
unemployed
>>105814373
community liaison/discord mod

How much of the crisis is immigrants' fault, vs. our fault?

>>105814206
I once met someone who works here in my uni group chat

>>105818610
I'm going to go full schizo a minute.
It feels like standards for all the good jobs are increasing at an unreasonable rate, not just CS. It's becoming harder to just become middle class. Elites are pulling up the ladders and leaving everyone else at the bottom. Gen Z unemployment is rising, they will either be forced to work something shitty or join the army out of desperation, very convenient considering war is on the horizon.

>>105818610
I'm with >>105818790 -- it was already Kinda Over because of HR roasts' demands and normie obsession with unicorn 10000x COOOODERZ making it so you have to be a literally born-again grognard with 100 years of experience but being no older than 20 just to work call-in luser-facing hell desk.

However, jeets are very willing to lie, and hiring in "tech" has been so broken for so long that there's really no way to check and call out such lies without incredible expense of at least time if not the wages and lost productivity of the hiring process. So they blindly import Durgasofters who say they have those 100 years of experience, either pay them peanuts or have their wages subsidized by the government, and don't care that they aren't productive once hired because the overhead costs have been slashed so hard that number went up in the end.

But at the end of the day it's that hiring was and is so fucked up in anything tech-oriented. Even if they hadn't imported infinity jeets, the job market would still be an absolute shambles because of incompetent recruiters, company and worker "valuation" not being based on anything real, and the "move fast break stuff" mindset of techbros that ensures no one can gain useful experience and products are designed and shipped in nonsense ways.

> or join the army out of desperation,
I did this over 10 years ago and it is without a doubt the best decision I ever made. I have a lot of complaints but at least I make some money and the job is mildly interesting, despite all the jank. Possibly *because* of all the jank.

>>105819028
why so you use words you have no unserstanding of jist to larp as being older than you are, zoomzoom?

>>105819028
Zoomer detected, Stop Posting immediately.

>>105815016
It would be for me, I hate talking to people

>>105818790
>>105819028
For me even the militarymaxxing route is out of the question since I'm well-documented as an autist.

Which is awesome if you don't want to get yelled at by a drill sergeant or die in combat, but ass if you want to work any job anywhere.

The Whatifalthist sub on Reddit has some insight on what this could mean down the road.

>>105819511
Oh fuck attached the wrong file

>>105819511
>>105819518
>phoneposter

>>105819518
on top of you being a phoneposter, that post is retarded
>US allying with pakistan, a historic TERRORIST NATION™, to invade india, a mature trading partner and slave exporter/vassal state
>Gen Z will elect "politicians who will take action against offshoring", such as Donald Trump and Joe Biden who both promised that and immediately renegged when number failed to go up enough
>the flips are involved in this fanfic for some reason
>people trying to join the military encourages military action/spending increases/resultant action due to having money to burn/being scared of neighbors burning money, rather than the other way around of military action (regardless of outcome) increasing jingoism (or at least view that joining the military will be lucrative/easier than otherwise) and aiding recruitment

>>105810481
Maybe shotgun to the head during your descent from the roof?

>>105810481
>>105819636
the ol' hanging yourself with chicken wire but jumping from a tall building is a classic. bonus points if you super glue your hand(s) to your head and do it near a basket ball court so you can attempt to slam dunk your own head

>>105810851
Yeah, I'm nominally a lead.

>>105812411
rent boy

>>105815205
>Holy shit you're retarded. Do you think they don't use macbooks at MS or thinkpads at Apple?
Some of the large companies do have policies that require dogfooding and standardization unless there's an explicit exception.

>>105819739
The never-employed larpers think that everyone brings a machine from home. If they knew how locked down the average corpo machine is, they'd pitch a fit

it was fourth of july weekend so maybe he didn't ghost me after all h-haha... heh...

I'm scared that my life is just going to be work, study and sleep and I still won't even make it.

>>105821411
literally me t. 35 this year

>>105821411
That's what life is
Sometimes I go to the movies by myself

Is it that bad still? It feels better this year. I'm headed to the UK once I graduate. Only going to have 4 months internship experience. Just can't stand living at home in Canada anymore.

>>105815031
What country. I'm moving to the UK (dual citizen). Canada is beyond cooked in many ways and it's not just the job market.

>>105822379
Canada is cooked? I find it quite cold.

>>105814373
chief dick suckest at www.4chan.org/gnu/technology

>>105814460
>what am I suppose to do, seriously?
I'd suggest productive uses of your engineering but that would count as fedposting

>>105814460
I'm an EE as well but a recent grad who hasn't been able to find work. I've had a few interviews that have went absolutely nowhere and with every one all those feelings you described have become worse and worse. A bunch of places near me that were generally considered safe bets for recent grads were either direct government jobs or contractors which were not supposed to be affected by budget cuts on paper have had a massive downsizing by giving many older workers larger retirement packages and other incentives to quit all while having hiring freezes. I feel like the rug has been pulled out from underneath me; all the so called "entry level" jobs require at least 2 years of experience in some niche topic that no school in the area teaches. I swear that I've done some interviews with jobs that were specifically set up for an H1B candidate to take since the requirements were so absurd for the pay that was offered and what was actually mentioned in the listing. I get that I'm not supposed to get phased by rejection letters, but there was one that got underneath my skin where the stupid fuck who wrote it clearly did it using ChatGPT and didn't bother proofreading it. It's all so tiresome.

>>105812411
indie game developer

>>105813375
the job market is fake and gay

>>105813375
"I was working at walmart", and you don't need to explain yourself any further, or at all. It's one life you get.

>>105822379
For me, ir's Sweden.

I hate how fake, gay and retarded everything is. Fuck you and fuck everything.

>he totally crushed my interview
how do you crush an interview

>>105814276
so get a loicense

>>105815765
>microservice bashing COTS kitbashers
what does that mean

>>105815765
you've clearly never worked with hardware or been near hardware retards. The former would guarantee you would never in a million years claim ohm's law won't betray you (not on behalf of it but because of the reality of semi manufacturing).

>>105825527
Retardo has never been near any tech so he's just making shit up in his head

>>105813555

desu can't even blame them for this, they'd get more than enough applications in a few days.

Should people in college now switch to engineering or medicine?

>>105825656
yeah probably

>>105825656
It's genuinely too late to get into tech if you're new to it. I feel bad for the younger folks, but at least I hope they become interested in outdoorsy activities and spend less time staring at screens.

>>105825656
Medicine.

>>105825656
whats the point they'll just make those other fields terrible

>>105825576
no he's right most of time people are just gluing together components built by others
i just wanna know what the abbreviations mean

>>105824545
>"It's one life you get
Sorry Anon we are not looking for human beings living real life

>>105821411

>>105814276
what about a plain old office job

>>105826311
I'm not sure entry level "office job" exists anymore. If it hasn't been automated yet then it probably needs a degree.

>>105825656
Neither. By the time you've finished your degree there will be excess demand again. These things are cyclical.

>>105826436
Oh, women jobs aside of course.

>>105821411
Good thing you can erase work from your list

Lmao if you knew how easy women are landing these jobs you're all eyeing here. Believe me I've seen that first hand. They don't even ask for qualifications. They'll fucking go out of their way to hire and train them even if they have only done a one-week bootcamp and their salary isn't jeet wages. Jeets wish they had it that easy.

This might be a retarded question but how do you force yourself to work on boring shit. My first and only permanent job was working on boring hospital management software, and I wanted to kill myself. Had to go back to do a masters to give myself some time and got to work on fun stuff but now that I am near to finishing I find myself dreading going back to the waggie life working on boring shit. Money isn't a factor thanks to the UK economy and devs being payed shit.

>>105825806
Google is your friend and my point was that hardware is this but on steroid whereas even the shittiest webshitter role requires at least writing custom glue code (and often making proper software but only if you join early enough)

>Accidentally replaced my resume with the resume that ChatGPT totally fucked up the formatting of
fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck

Also
>Company's job page doesn't have an option to sort postings by date
God damn it

>>105826448
>there will be excess demand again. These things are cyclical.
How many more cycles will we get before AI takes all the tech jobs that jeets aren't willing to do for $3/hr?

>>105827042
>all the tech jobs
Seniors will be fine for a few decades minimum. I don't think junior positions are going to recover before they're completely automated.

>>105814276
>even normie jobs have that "Due to the number of applicants only successful candidates will be contacted" spiel
It's over everywhere.

>>105815114
The best tool for writing a compiler is c++. Microsoft also thinks this, which is why they wrote MSVC in c++ and fired this guy for writing the typescript compiler in go.

>>105827592
No one wants to deal with C++ in 2025, the choices were go and rust and you know it.

Career is kill. cs degree and 3 YoE doing backend development. How do I make a living now without investing another 7 years in training

>>105827846
>how can I be a better cattle
you're not going to win this race

>>105825806
COTS means Commercial Off-The-Shelf

>>105825570
>all hardware is working in a semiconductor fab as a lead engineer

>>105825656
>Engineering
No -t. EE
>Medicine
Go to /med/ on /sci/ and ask if there's any medical field vampires haven't completely ruined yet

Applied to 5 different starbuckses, got ghosted by every single one
I can't even find a part time job to give me some more time to look for a real job

>>105828310
You don't have 3 years experience as a barista alongside a diploma of baristing?

>>105827955
>Cattle
There's a difference between
>Living paycheck to paycheck (where I am now)
And
>Having money to do hobbies and not worry about being sunk by one expense

>Take Adderall to bust out some college papers (and maybe some nuts haha)
>End up spending over an hour arguing with ChatGPT about how, contrary to popular belief, the Constitution does not state the President/Commander-in-chief must be a civilian
>It refuses to agree with me, even after I point out that Truman was in the Army Reserve his whole time as President
>(My papers are on cybersecurity bullshit, I don't remember how I got on this tangent)
uhh, at least I'm learning something

>>105828310
it is well and truly over. It may have never begun.

workday is utter shit that is all

>>105828516
>damaging your IQ by arguing with a machine

>find some dude on linkedin who has a job you'd want
>kill him
>apply for his job
why havent you taken the murderpill, bros?

>>105828508
>diploma of baristing?
isnt that LITERALLY a law degree
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barrister

>>105828637
>not kidnapping the interviewers children then having them hold up your resume as proof of life
its almost like you have no idea what the problem is

>>105826448
Technological unemployment is not cyclical Tech doesnt go away

>>105828683
That's a degree, if you do a diploma they teach you how to make coffee instead for some reason.

>>105828310
starbucks is competitive man, friend of mine interviewed there and they had over 20 applicants in a bulk interview format for their first stage. Think it's because they have decent benefits for a wagey job like my girlfriend used to work there in college and they covered part of her tuition and her gender affirming care

>>105828576
I've heard (and experienced) one of the biggest complaints about ChatGPT is that it always agrees with the user, so I was perplexed and intrigued by its refusal to in this situation.

>>105828719
I just like coffee, man

>>105828702
experimenting with DIY shaped charge munitions with which to destroy HR outright so that I can apply for HR positions and then hold all the cards (the game will be mine)

>>105828576
Middle Management bros, How are you feeling!?
>JOBS IS SAFU

>>105828976

>>105828980
NANI?
IT Jokey, restart the mainframe its making vague unsettling threats.

>>105828993
Boss, you sold all the servers five years ago to get an O365 subscription. And have been signed up for Copilot Pro for two.

>Jokey
It's Jokaero, please.

opening Powershell at work and feeling my soul escape my body (it is ascending higher to to battle on the astral plane with whatever boomer "DBA" designed our AD forest)

>>105829041
Disable and re-enable everyone's O365 then. If that doesn't work open a priority ticket with MS Support.

>>105829134
Roger, sir, we'll get the rockets up in about ten minutes for a strike on Richmond.

It's over

>>105829161
It will be with that attitude. Have you tried applying yourself? Karen has learned something called Excel Macros that cleans up data really fast. Maybe you can look into that?

>>105828706
at the end of the day companies will at some point need to focus on making an actual product and actual human would pay actual money for once the AI hype train dies down

>>105815135
Programming languages are mathematical fact not products

man that three day weekend was so nice but having to wait until labor day for another one is gonna be rough

>>105829209
highly bluepilled

>>105829241
But sir Canada Day was a week ago?

Another week of being ghosted or rejected. How are you holding up /utwg/ sisters?

HR is a made up job to include women in the workforce and this more broadly is a major cause of the general sense of frustration in the working world. If it seems arbitrary it's because so much of it is. Because we "needed" to make up jobs for them, which are necessarily arbitrary. This is why you have "diversity training" and "team-building exercises" and bs hiring practices

>>105826619
>>105829269
They're doing everything they can to keep women from being mothers and forcing them into the workplace and displacing competent male workers who would be suitable husbands and fathers is the best way they can do that.

>>105829252
I broke and sent a "pls update me" email to a defence contractor and will spend the rest of the afternoon drinking overproof rum. I may consider hitting the liquor store and getting absolutely fucking blasted whilst daydream-sketching halloween cosplay costumes I absolutely know I will not be non-lazy enough to make

>>105829344
I always email them for an update, it's their fucking job to send updates, even if it's automated. Idk why HR finds this to be so difficult for them to do.

>>105829358
Normally I don't care enough to bother since I do ostensibly have a job, just not a lot of hours. But this one is at a defence contractor to work on aircraft related stuff in a very physical way so it is Very My Jam and I would practically Do It For Free (I will not get this job because I am not only incompetent but will also molest the hydraulics)

>>105829400
>>105829344
Someone crush this man's skull PLEASE

>>105828724
They've tuned down on the sycophancy. At some point it would agree with everything you said and treat you as a god among men.

>>105829579
They turned it down but it's still on.

I have an important meeting with the boss and I'm anxious as all hell.

Complete and total unemployment doom incoming
Neuralink mind controlled chat jeetpt cyborgs will steal your job by working as slaves
You will be homeless unless you master ai yesterday

>>105829642
>You will be homeless unless you master ai yesterday
I can always move back in with my mom if things go to hell.

>>105829069
>powershell

Im actually unemployable what are the rest of you doing here

>>105830581
im also unemployable (in the civilian world)

BOO

>>105830713
i applied to macdondald and got told by a negress that my shitty associates degree makes me overqualified

>>105830581
I have a job, got it late 2024 after being unemployed for over a year. I kept coming here to try help other anons, but nothing really works anymore, it's all random

>>105830713
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PP7WJL2JtLs

>>105830713
>ask the owner of my local pub for a job
>"Have you done any bartending courses?"
>wtf no
>ask some of the bartenders (on the dl) if they've ever done any bartending courses, let alone had to to get a job
>"wtf no"

>>105830879
Maybe they had alcoholism as their hobby

>>105831062
Please don't taunt me when I am being earnest about the trials and tribulations of the modern job market

>>105815696
>bragging about how the company he works for is replacing low skilled data entry workers years before ChatGPT was a thing
I used to do "medium skilled data entry" work (traversing networks with cisco cli 'cdp neighbor' and recording device info to smartsheet or spreadsheet) and I automated my own damn job with Python. I had something working by the end of week 2 on the job (and I had never touched Python before this job). It was peak comfy especially since covid hit a month in and I essentially 'worked' by running a script that did my job for me and i would intentionally postpone submitting my results and 'hard work' to make them think i was doing the tasks manually like a good boy dumbass

After ~3 years of working just a few hours a week (literally just moving my mouse, running a script, responding to teams messages, submitting 'work') I came clean to my boss, told him it was getting really fucking boring and not challenging enough, gave them a portolio of scripts i wrote to do my job for me with explanation and their response was to almost double my pay and move me to a solution development team

>>105831175
>I automated my own damn job with Python.
one time I received a bad performance review for "pursuing personal hobbies while on watch" for browsing SS64.com and automating the data entry part of my core trade job. at first it was findstr for /l COM abuse stuff and I gradually learned enough powershell to mangle plaintext in the same way and a little faster/better (everything I was working with were plaintext files, literal .TXTs, potentially spat out of teletype machines). I did the same thing you did but almost ate a criminal charge for it, which was only downgraded to a destructively bad performance review

Managers since have been sympathetic (and even sometimes asked me to recreate those scripts) and in interviews it makes for a good story for the usual "what are you most proud of at your job"/"describe a time you had conflict with your manager or coworkers" type shit test questions

but I will still DIE MAD about it and to this day when I have thoughts to automate stuff, even if just slightly improving some bullshit excel sheet used for an interim report, I keep it to myself. and the few times I do lapse into bravery or faith and reveal some horrid set of load-bearing scripts (or, god forbid, excel sheets) I've been using, it's usually just met as a novelty and I'm asked to hand-write a report instead. sometimes literally, with a pen.

>>105810189
I got almost all my jobs off of LinkedIn/Indeed. However I've also gotten interviews from recommendations, cold messages, emails, etc.
It's a crap shoot.

>>105831144
I mean that they got drunk everyday at home and learned to mix drinks that way

>>105831378
I do that too thoughbeit

vir/g/ins with masters degrees are finding it hard to find a job meanwhile 16 year old high school dropouts on twitter are raising millions of dollars for their vibe coded SaaS

>>105813375
we'll be lucky if it improves by 2030 lol

if you arent in tech right now go to school for another career

every single person i nthe last 7 years decided t ogo into tech

I think it's literally impossible for me to find a normal job at this point, and that I have become incapable of functioning in modern capitalist/industrialized civilization, even if still being gregarious and being able to participate in basic society.

>>105831273
Damn they had you editing plain text files, and that was the job?
Shit was the pay good? Even if it wasn't, sign me up, like just drop a position title I should be searching for. That would be a nice side hustle
>criminal charge
What would the charge have been? If your touching things like payment info (routing/checking numbers, card and cardholder info), your just processing the data with python instead of manually, i dont see this as an issue.
>I'm asked to hand-write a report instead. sometimes literally, with a pen
Dear lord what kind of companies do this? Even if they asked for a hand-written report I'd still probably find a way to automate just for the hell of it (but using the characters of my natural handwriting)

>>105831273
>browsing SS64.com
Good, fag website refuses to work on brave.

>>105831675
>Damn they had you editing plain text files, and that was the job?
In my trade, we affectionately call eachother "battle secretaries"; we take the message traffic (as in literally the Tom Clancy-esque allcaps nonsense transmissions) and package them in a more digestible form.

On the botes, the preferred way to do it was
>receive the message, probably through Outlook (but potentially over radio teletype)
>save everything as .txt files to a given local share (the botes have servers)
>vet the bulk for applicability/relevance to the unit (i.e. if you don't have aircraft, probably no one cares about wide-distribution air traffic control messages and will yell at you if included(unless a helicopter crashes nearby in which case it becomes your personal fault it did despite your unit not even having a helipad))
>strip header and footer information that no one but the operators care about
>add header/footer information for local bookkeeping
>print, staple, hole-punch, put it in a binder with sticky notes/tabs
>highlight the important stuff
>do said highlighting by hand, because normies' eyes glaze over when the highlighting too straight*
>hand-deliver it to the highest-ranking person willing to even look at you
>get yelled at by everyone above the guy you gave the binder to because you didn't consort with them first

*I was once told that I shouldn't use a ruler for this because it's too regular and thus too hard to notice

>What would the charge have been?
"conduct unbecoming" or "dereliction of duty" or something; it was clearly an empty threat. But he already didn't like me for various reasons. He made a similar threat to me about telling stories college about a teacher who would always end every Combinational Logic lecture with "...And that's important to high-speed cryptography!" because he worked at Lockheed or something before becoming a professor)

empty threats are just that but are still offensive and they still work. I will die free and die mad

>>105831909
Anyway, I wrote a like 15 line powershell script to automate what it could; all that remained was printing, stapling, by-hand-highlighting, and COPING for failure states of the script. I was finding new and exciting edge cases up until my last day using it because NATO formatted messages can get so long (and apparently fuck with character encoding hard enough that even Outlook fails to save them consistently??) but for the most part, it worked and was non-destructive. Out of fear of the script failing, I didn't even have it delete stuff; just add markers for me to know where the message actually starts and ends and still do any deletions by hand.

But this was also a place that, when I brought up that these edits should NOT be done in Outlook itself, to preserve the message as transmitted (and that originals should be kept on our old Win95 teletype box) I got yelled at for that too, but no one noticed when I left them alone anyway. So one could probably see why I'm a little mad(insane) and a little upset(mentally) in addition to seething because I cannot cope in a healthy way

btw fuck teletype. every time i've worked with it, it's been exactly like posting on 4chan; you yeet your heart and soul and all the things you want and need into the void only to be answered with something that makes no sense, and the one time it does, it basically expresses
>I don't care. Do the needful as previously agreed

>>105831909
>>105831940
>all that hard copy bookkeeping
ok that does kind of sound like ass. I'd do what i could if i was in your shoes too

when I was in the military in environments where we had to hand in our phones due to data sensitivity i'd hand in my phone but nobody would bat an eye as i went in with my Panasonic CF29 Toughbook. I'd be playing Diablo 2 or Doom or Quake to everyone it just looks like im working.
Or i'd play with html/javascript and make stupid SVG animations, showed one to one of my battlebuddies "this is you sucking a cock haha" it was a packman looking face opening and closing as a very detailed veiny dick would move outside then inside the mouth as it closed

i never got into automating things then i was new to basically everything

>>105832176
We have a bunch of toughpads and I want so badly to make them into charting machines

no vidya on our machines right now (unless some of the ops nerds get their wishes granted and we can start getting paid to play CMANO) but when I was still on the botes, everyone would bring in their own gaymer laptop anyway. Or later on, switches and steam decks. most of one of the deployments i got a medal for was spent practicing Mario Kart to try to defeat the embarked US Coast Guard people (they were in fact too powerful and only didn't outright top the bracket because they had actual work to do, instead merely dominating the top 8)

being in the military sucks. it's a very comfy do-nothing job except for the times you have to actually do your job, where everything falls apart instantly and you have to re-enact every Kafka novel at once and any attempt to fix it introduces you to yet another circle of Hell

>>105832254
>it's a very comfy do-nothing job except for the times you have to actually do your job
Yes, i beleive they call it "hurry up and wait"
>toughpads
I badly want a getac tablet with the dual hot-swappable batteries

back to military
some computers had usb and disc drive file transfer disabled but i could get vidya on them by modifying group policy on the machine (it wasnt enforced by a domain controller) and changing settings in BIOS

You could always boot into a different OS with a formatted dvd though. The number of officers that would accidentally lock the admin account by typing the wrong password in 3 times in a row was too damn high, Hiren's Boot CD was a blessing

>inb4 just give them a user account
They would be adamant about wanting to use the admin account for some ungodly reason and creating backup admin accounts on 30+ computers, i'd rather just look like a wizard being a script kiddie with a boot cd

>>105832347
> "hurry up and wait"
that's basic training shit; once you get a couple hooks things get a lot jankier.
The Mario Kart Medal was just because we were lucky enough to have a CO that said "We're on a named operation, in consort with other countries; we already did Work-Ups, so I'm not going to waste your time with exercises now that we're here for the thing we spent months exercising for." It just so happened that not much happened at the time and the world was quite calm. There was still a lot of stupid stuff that could have been circumvented with better design, but meh.

>the number of officers that would accidentally lock the admin account by typing the wrong password in 3 times in a row was too damn high
we have bitlocker for that now, and for ALL accounts! just as much work, but the few times a year I have an active admin account, I can just look in AD for the recovery key. There's an intranet "public" solution too, but it works maybe half the time so I don't even bother recommending it to LUSERS (at least for normal users I can say "try it once then get back to me" tho)

There's just so much stuff that makes me feel like I'm stuck in kindergarten, yet have to do babysitting myself. I'd like to see what command is like. Or even what people at the ministerial level are doing. IT shit is just the tip of the iceberg, that's not even my core job, it's just what I get the most hours for these days. What the hell is going on up there to make down here seem so pitiful and useless?

>>105832491
>that's basic training shit
it still applies
>wait in a humvee to get to destination
>wait at destination
>wait for TOC tent to be set up
>"okay your up, do your networking and computer set up thing"
>hurry and set it up
>wait in the TOC all day
>wait in the TOC the next day
>some shit breaks down somewhere
>have to fix it asap
>fix it with NCO and enlisted breathing down my neck
>fixed
>now just... waiting
>wait for the next problem

>>105810004 (OP)
how do unemployed retards STILL don't understand that things will change in the US and elsewhere after the Fed lowers interest rates and the tech industry finds yet another fad to push for?

also, you guys have great technical skills AND knowledge of systems, their weaknesses and solutions. you could do ANYTHING that required solving hard, tedious problems, even social problems (networks, communications and stuff)

I'll leave a few videos ITT to help you understand and motivate you to do things. first one is this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Unzc731iCUY

I'm looking for a course I did that showed how math and networks are applied EVERYWHERE to solve problems and make money... sadly, I don't remember the name of the course, but I'll post it as soon as I find it.

>>105832934
>after the Fed lowers interest rates
two more weeks

>and the tech industry finds yet another fad
we just had a fad, it's called AI
now we're in the cooldown period of 5 years where there's no investment because the VC retards have yet to forget about how much money they got scammed out of

>>105832964
>implying we arent still in the boom phase
give it another couple years until AI goes the way of NFTs

>>105832934
well, fuck my life. I couldn't find the original videos. it was a course on coursera... in 2012
this was the syllabus and the presentation: https://online.princeton.edu/networks-friends-money-and-bytes
I couldn't find it anywhere...
but I did find a similar one, here https://www.cis.upenn.edu/~mkearns/teaching/NetworkedLife/
if you check the page source, you'll find a bunch of videos (ctrl+u ".mp4), as well as PDFs

pls let me know if you manage to find the videos for the original course somewhere...

>>105832964
I guess if you didn't jump to the AI fad some years ago, you are already fucked. and yes, it's crashing and about to die IMO. no point in discussing it.

how many of you are actually above the age of 18

>>105832934
>after the Fed lowers interest rates
my sides
the free money is gone anon

>>105833430
>how many of you are actually above the age of what you are used to laying pipe into
me
also im not unemployed, i have a tech job

>>105832934
>>105833342
I found some (all?) videos!
https://www.youtube.com/user/Network20Q/playlists
consider that they were made in 2012, so their resolution is shit.

>>105833456
well, the Fed said they WILL cut interests 3 times this year (see https://www.thestreet.com/fed/goldman-sachs-revamps-fed-interest-rate-cut-forecast-for-2025#:~:text=Their%20economists%20previously%20expected%20the%20Fed%20to%20reduce%20its%20Fed%20Funds%20Rate%20twice%20before%20year%27s%20end). but if that doesn't happen (because of tarifffs), then say goodbye to tech in murica lmao

>>105833457
I'd have banged older dudes when I was a minor, but now that I'm of age, I don't get these lolicons. Kids are the worst.

>>105833521
>I don't get these lolicons. Kids are the worst
"brat tamer" fetish or "broken wing syndrome" or a combination of the two. Also a lot of broken and financially unstable people will go for older men, either looking for a better life, help, handouts, etc. I don't "give" handouts but there some people that owe me money but I booted them from the nest and they are actually working to better their lives so... idk im not gonna worry them when their shit still isnt completely together
even if they never paid me back, their lives kinda sucked from the start, i didnt give them much and i can afford the loss. Shit, i fucked up more investing into stocks than i have investing into people

>>105833507
>I found some (all?) videos!
I just realized that all the videos are there, ordered:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TsnAf3fFtig&list=PLuKhJYywjDe9degO5XvMFg7w2YbfLWwMr&index=10

>>105830713
McLovin life

>>105830713
The real blackpill is realizing McDonalds is competitive because everyone's fallback is McDonalds.
You got to do something even shittier like warehouse work.

I am the OP who started the first umeployable twg.

I'm so proud of yall.

I am also still unemployed.

Why does this board hate jeets so much? That is, more than the other boards

>>105834218
Imagine telling someone in 1995 that this happened to you without sounding like the biggest fucking loser ever born.

Which language should I do leetcode in? I mainly use C#

>>105834921
Haskell!

>>105834886
Experience and proximity.
Now that you have your answer go home.

i see neetcode found another way of plugging his site after being ousted from twg

Boson training site stopped working at work. Imma kms at this point. Anything i get used to using, buying or having gets taken away from me at this point.

>>105830581
You'd have to have spent 10 years in jail to be less employable than me.

>>105830581
Go be a roofer, concrete, brick layer or painter criminal

>>105836403
At least 3 of those are "skilled trades" that need years of certs and experience. I don't know why painters need anything more than a brush and paint can but you aren't being hired without that paper and time investment bucko.

>>105836445
No there fucking not. These are the lowest end of the trades by far. Electrian's, plumbers, mechanics and carpenters require actual education to perform the work.

>>105836469
Are you stuck in 20 years ago? Anything more than retail needs some licensing or education.

>>105836481
regardless these trades accept criminals. If not join the army they accept just about anyone. Not to mention you get a retirement in 20 years if you stick it out.

>>105836497
While yes they'll accept most people, you still need the education/training and at that point you may as well look into an actual trade (though the education will take a bit longer).
Personally, I'm unemployable because I don't have a drivers license, costs more than I can afford right now and I'd have to spend a year with a useless learners even if I did, every trade bar none requires them and some require manual/truck licenses too.
The days of "walk up and just get a job in a desperately in-need industry" are over. If you haven't thoroughly planned to join the industry you aren't joining it unless you know someone.

>join the army
When the "I will bomb the world for israel" man is in charge? Even if you don't live in America joining the army right now is a very dumb idea.

>>105832934
>also, you guys have great technical skills AND knowledge of systems, their weaknesses and solutions
who told you that?

Has anyone done the DevSkiller Python assessment? What is the proctoring like? What questions do they ask? I was asked to do multiple choice and three coding questions on that site.

>>105836794
anon.... the same solutions that apply to computers (algorithms) can be applied to people and the society as a whole. jumping from that to systems is not difficult at all.

>>105834218
holy fuck lmao

>>105836403
become a roofer and pick up a casual opiate addiction

>>105810004 (OP)
I got you UTWG with the perfect job.

https://mosdb.com/army/

https://www.goarmy.com/careers-and-jobs/support-logistics/admin-financial-support/92s-shower-laundry-clothing

>>105832934
>Great technical skills AND knowledge of systems
>Anything that requires solving hard, tedious problems

Lol. See >>105834218

TechNiggas can't even be trusted to bag fries

guys i’m doing a government sponsored reeducation program i’m a year in and need to start an apprenticeship in less than a month. i found a comfy place at a marketing/webpage company. 10 minutes by car, homeoffice option, a small team of nice people, verbal agreement that they will hire me after i finish the program.
last week they called me, big financial trouble, they fired everybody, about 10 people.
I contacted every company possible within a 1 hour driving radius. zero positive feedback. if i don’t find an apprenticeship i’m getting kicked out the program.
i just wanted a comfy live typing on a keyboard instead of spending 12 hours on construction sites. that’s not what i signed up for

>>105837484
Sorry best i can give you is 7x14s for 9$/hr

>see QA role
>seems entry level, pay's certainly entry level
>read further
>"why is it discussing leadership shit?"
>you're a tester, scrum master, product owner, and remote-tard-wrangler
>still getting tons of applicants

>>105837857
Unicorn hires. They want the high end but often will accept the lower end. If there is a pay range listed then accept what they tell you. if you are the unicorn then tell them you need to be payed on the top of the range.

>>105837385
smells too much

>>105833872
Nice videos and sites you linked earlier. Going through them now. I like systems theory information, but not really the systems design from programming or control theory from engineering.

>>105837922
I don't think they'd be willing to consider paying more for unicorns, as I said it looked like entry level pay and everything I saw looked entry level. There's nothing at all stating years of experience or even the typical "familiarity/strong/confident/experience in X", shit it doesn't even ask for any education, it only asked for basic bitch shit like
>attention to detail
>work well in a team
>excellent communication skills
with the exception of
>Skilled in JIRA
Then the description of the job itself and your responsibilities include a bunch of managerial shit alongside QA.

I think they're legitimately looking for an entry level dude who has it all. It's not an inexperienced company either.

>>105810004 (OP)
test

>>105838162
They do this either because they legally have to put public job postings for internal hires or so they have an excuse to hire jeets, because no domestic candidates were fit.
>We couldn't find a perfect unicorn candidate here in the US with all the skills that would work for a low wage but Ranjesh Praatjer who has a PhD in electrical AI quantum computing from University of Johdpur and 20 years of tech work experience despite being 24 years old is going to work for us for half the offered wage, get him a visa and hire him now

is there even a point to applying on linkedin or indeed instead of directly on the website?

>>105838058
those videos motivated me to keep doing stuff when I was a NEET after falling ill. I hope they help you too.

>>105838262
No.
Here's some doom slop.
https://youtu.be/OiG4VDZMS8w
https://youtu.be/yn08iHI37dQ

>>105838760
>1 minute in
>"Employers are actually more likely to ghost you if you meet 90% of the requirements"
Automate all HR already.

>>105838975
It is automated. That's why it sucks.

/twg/ checking in.
Anon can you provide five thing you did yesterday to change your employment status?
This exercise will help you for when you finally do succeed!
Wishing you the best
--Manager Anon

>>105826724
This is me right now and I kinda try and look at it like I did when I uased to do weights. Just something I have to do for cash/health, sure sometimes I slack off but it comes down to routine/discipline. Drugs also help.

I am thinking of doing the same thing and doing a masters in hopes of finding more interesting work. How did that go? Are you getting more job offers?

>>105839082
If I stop searching for a month then I'm no longer considered unemployed, checkmate.

>>105826724
I just think in the things I will do/buy with the money I'm going to get, that's it.
My enthusiasm and dreams for the future are long long gone. I just want to exist in peace.

>>105829269
If HR was good at being HR we wouldn't have this problem.

> joins new company as DEI hire
> uh I see you use C# and F# I don't know those
> yeah I understand the legacy code is 10 GB
> we need to rewrite the project in COBOL, C99, or perl 4: those are my languages
> *new project is created in her languages*
> um actually I am more of a visionary and do the architecture
> I need a code monkey to write my project outline for me while I try to get laid on bumble all day

Anyone watch codingjesus here?

Watched that nigga yesterday and realized I'd get cooked....

Had a job interview today. I had assumed they wanted to higher the most competent person but they gave me the impression they'd rather have a party monkey. I'm probably getting rejected.

>>105810481
there are some articles about making a mistake with the shotgun and just removing your entire face. On the other hand, some of these people said it cured their depression.

>>105839082
Removed college degree and cs skills from indeed account so I don't look overqualified for wagey jobs.

>>105837401
McSloppas jobs are always "competitive" whenever the job market shits the bed, they love hiring desperate but credentialed people.
The real rock bottom these days is Amazon delivery, you can write "I hate niggers and will rape every customer" in your app and they'll still beg you to come in person for an interview.

>>105840630
>they love hiring desperate but credentialed people.
no they don't, they complain constantly about "overqualified" workers because they know the turnover will get even higher, and training budgets/losses from incompetence are already huge in min wage mcjobs

>>105840630
i applied to an amazon warehouse and got an outright rejection...

>>105840078
>higher the most competent person
This man is so fucking rejected.

>>105839530
You would be considered unemployable. I think you should reconsider this strategy.
>>105840529
Smart! You can be hired as the super junior! Be sure to have extreme drive and motivation and you can advance quickly!
>>105840765
Practice doing the Robot. Pop & Lock can only get you so far.

I miss the poop guy...

Anyone using bots to apply for jobs?

>>105813375
>>105831643
I lived through my dad losing his job to the Chinese in the early 2000's. The best we've got since then is Trump an entire 25 years since then trying to do some shock therapy thing to US manufacturing by tariffing the shit out of everything. Based on that, your best bet is some president in 2050 doing the same shit with tech and finding that no one in America wants to do 996 with overnight prod support for minimum wage.

>>105814460
>Canada
Unironically go back to India, there'll be more opportunity for you there than in Canada.

I want to die.

>>105814460
I'm an EE as well, it's been pretty easy getting interviews for companies in comparison to software jobs. Already secured a new job too. I really don't know how you can't get one with 10+ yoe. Might as well build something and prove your worth is all I can say

>>105834218
I had this happen to me in college over ten years ago. The entire staff was Mexicans, and they didn't want me because I didn't know Spanish. I went there years later and it was still all Mexicans, got food poisoning from that location too one time.

>>105843612
soon you will have to know whatever specific one of the thousands of jeet barbarbabble languages your to-be "boss"(slave master) speaks just to live in North America at all

>i'm unemployed and I can't get a job!!!
Okay what school did you go to, what was your GPA, and what internships did you do and why didnt your internship call you back?

>>105843920
this is something I don't understand about unemployed retards: whenever they start a thread or make a post crying about being unemployed, they almost NEVER give more details about their education, skills or experience.
I know that unemployment is hard in a psychological sense, but, ffs, these retards couldn't be more helpful so we can give them pointers, suggest concrete measures, maybe suggest talking to someone or whatever. we can't be of help when people don't help us help them.

>>105844058
It's almost as if they deserve to be unemployed helpless retards.

>>105842563
>The best we've got since then is Trump an entire 25 years since then trying to do some shock therapy thing to US manufacturing by tariffing the shit out of everything
You mean the thing that never actually had any incentive to move things to America, actually potentially killing American businesses because everyone sources something from China, and instead had Apples factories moving to india?
It was purely about fucking over China. Take your fell for it again award again.

>>105843920
>>105844058
Nigger we constantly have people in here talking about having >5 years of experience, shut the fuck up.

>>105844212
Get a job you bum ass nigga lmfao

>>105844212
If you have experience, you literally have no excuse to be unemployed. You don't deserve any sort of sympathy, that's on you.

>>105844247
The job market being unbelievably shit is a good excuse.

>>105844212
>we constantly have people in here talking about having >5 years of experience
doing what? cleaning bathrooms? how does that help?
how do you manage to completely miss the point of my comment?

>>105844292
It's not, that's an illusion. If you were actually competent, you would get hired easily in this market.

>>105844326
>that's an illusion
Yeah ok jeet.

how do i get a job?

>>105844530
This is called coping.

>>105844599
You don't

>>105844624

>>105831909
>we take the message traffic (as in literally the Tom Clancy-esque allcaps nonsense transmissions)
fucking number station type shit? damn

>>105843920
>>105844058
We already know the pointers you want to give. I doubt you have any unique perspectives for us, you could try to surprise me but you likely won't.