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Anonymous No.105993323 >>105993511 >>105993738 >>105995158 >>105996157 >>106002147
/pcbg/ - PC Building General
>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICE
Post build list or current specs including MONITOR: https://pcpartpicker.com/
Provide specific use cases
State BUDGET and COUNTRY or you will NOT be helped
Building guide: https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php?title=Build_a_PC&diff=55476&oldid=55400

>CASE
mATX: AP201, Lian Li A3, O11 Air Mini, XT M3
ATX: XT PRO (ULTRA), AIR 903 Base/MAX, Lancool 207, Flux Pro, Y40, Meshify 3, 4000D FRAME
Dual Chamber: Y60/70, Vision (Compact), Antec C8

>CPU
Budget (inc. gaming): 7500F, 7600/X, 9600/X
Gaming: 9800X3D, 7800X3D, 9700/X, 7700/X
Workstation: 9950X, 9900X
Premium: 9950X3D
Intel: If deeply discounted (265K for value & reliability)

>COOLER
AIO: Thermalright Frozen Edge, Cooler Master Atmos, Liquid Freezer 3/Pro (unhandy mounting solution)
Dual tower: A620 PRO SE, Peerless Assassin 120 SE V3, NH-D15 G2
ITX/>42mm RAM: Mugen 6 Dual Fan, AXP120-X67

>MOTHERBOARD
ASRock AM5 board issues are still reported; BIOS must be updated before CPU installation

>RAM
DDR5: 2x16GB or 2x24GB, 6000CL30 (AMD), 6400CL32 (Intel)
Workstation/high-end: consider 2x48GB or 2x64GB

>SSD (OS drive)
Budget: SN5000, SN7100
High-end: SN850X, 990 Pro (Windows)
Premium: SN8100
https://borecraft.com/

>GPU
Budget: Arc B580, used card
Midrange: RX 9060 XT 16GB, 5060Ti 16GB
High-end 1440p & Midrange 4K: RX 9070 XT
Workstation: RTX 5090, used 4090 or 3090 Ti

>PSU
Budget: Corsair CX650
PSU buying guide:
https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/

>MONITOR
1080p: KTC H24T09P
1440p: KTC H27T22, Gigabyte M27Q, ASUS XG27ACS, KTC M27T6 (miniLED)
4K: Gigabyte M27UA/M27UP, KTC M27P6 (miniLED), ASUS PG32UCDM (QD-OLED), PG32UCDP (WOLED)

>OS
Activate Windows @ >>105940279

>CASE FANS
Meta: Case with good stock PWM fans
Midrange: Arctic P12 Pro (loud @ higher RPM), P14/Max (5-pack)
High-end: Fractal Momentum, Noctua G2 (140mm or 120mm)

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Anonymous No.105993332
>News & Rumors
RTX 50 Super specs: 5070 Ti Super 24GB, 5080 Super 24GB, 5070 Super 18GB

>Omissions
RTX 5070 Ti: buy if you need CUDA, if you value DLSS/Reflex that highly, and if the 5060 Ti 16GB or 5070 isn't performant enough.
RTX 5070: buy if it's reasonably priced & if you plan to work around potential VRAM bottlenecks.
RX 9070 non-XT: worth considering if it's significantly cheaper than the 9070 XT.
Intel 13 & 14th gen i7/9 -K CPUs: BIOS update required due to reliability issues. Recommended to set a CPU VR voltage limit (1.4 or 1.45V).

>Product Notice
AOC Q27G40XMN: nice budget 1440p miniLED monitor but inconsistent QC.
Bad one causes DisplayHDR setting to look overbrightened and desaturated when applying the best local dimming option.

Gigabyte RTX 50 & RX 9000 video cards: thermal gel has QC issues, Gigabyte claims only early production batches were affected.
https://www.igorslab.de/en/update-on-thermal-putty-on-gigabyte-graphics-cards-after-further-storage-oil-separation-to-an-alarming-extent-and-silence-as-a-strategy/

Avoid updating Gigabyte motherboard's RGB controller firmware, as it can disable board features such as Q-Flash Plus.

>PSU Reviews
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplies
https://www.lttlabs.com/
https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-supplies
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=Power+Supplies

For tier-list enjoyers:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/

>Storage Reviews
https://www.phoronix.com/reviews/Storage (Linux performance)
https://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSD
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews
https://www.servethehome.com/category/storage/
Anonymous No.105993377 >>105993392
>avoid gigabyte
Oh shit did I fuck up building my pc with gigabyte parts? How badly?
Anonymous No.105993392 >>105993425 >>105993452 >>105995231 >>105995258 >>105999909 >>106002501
>>105993377
The main concern is the Gigabyte RX 9000 and the RTX 50 video cards; they make decent motherboards & monitors.
Anonymous No.105993404 >>105994212
reminder to switch CPPC/deferred core to driver mode so the chipset driver correctly parks non 3d cores
Anonymous No.105993425 >>105993466
>>105993392
I didn’t see anything bad about gigabyte. I only clicked this thread because I thought the image was funny. I guess I’ll be prepared for the worst now. Any time until this issue highlighted is fixed by updates?
Anonymous No.105993452
>>105993392
gigleboom gpus have not changed since vega i see
Anonymous No.105993460 >>105993655
Can I get an MFM hard drive to work with a modern Windows machine?
Anonymous No.105993466 >>105993693
>>105993425
never buy the cheapest variant of a gpu, gigabyte have been the cost-cutting budget option for many years. Their psu's had a huge QC scandal for awhile too they denied until after gamers nexus exposed them.
Anonymous No.105993511 >>105993656
>>105993323 (OP)
WTF is KTC and how does it have so many recs
Anonymous No.105993610 >>105993782 >>105996219
so done with these fucking driver issues on my 5070 ti. i was in the middle of typing up a shitpost dunking on the AMDrones ITT when my screen went black and I had to turn my whole pc off. im rmaing and switching to 9070 xt fuck it idc anymore.
Anonymous No.105993655
>>105993460
no
even the adapters are esoteric and handmade
Anonymous No.105993656 >>105993724
>>105993511
KTC is basically the OEM manufacturer for some premium and medium Monitor Brands… In 2021 the began to promote their own brand of products as well (KTC standing for β€œKey To Combat” apparently), and are primarily focused on gaming monitors.

In other words, they're now selling directly to you the consumer instead of oems.
Anonymous No.105993693 >>105993884 >>105999926
>>105993466
Alright when things start breaking down what manufacturer should I look to?
And how recent was this gamers nexus thing?
Anonymous No.105993709 >>105999434
Anonymous No.105993724
>>105993656
>In other words, they're now selling directly to you the consumer instead of oems.
And as a consequence they can deliver better specs at a lower price than some of the bigger OEMs.
Anonymous No.105993738 >>105993766
>>105993323 (OP)
Is a 9600x a good buy or should I wait for the 9600x3d?
Anonymous No.105993766 >>105995055 >>105999944
>>105993738
Nobody buys zen5%
X3D saved the entire pointless generation
Anonymous No.105993782
>>105993610
>driver issues on my 5070 ti
Yeah your issue is that Nvidia GeForce is a brand of fake Radeon cards known to catch fire, and to produce fake frames with inaccurate colors. Could happen to anyone even since Njudea intentionally stole AMDs naming scheme for 9000 series to trick people into buying the off brand. I would discard it out of your house asap before the connector melts and burns you alive.
Anonymous No.105993842 >>105993873
Can the 9060 XT 16 GB run 1440p 60 fps
Anonymous No.105993849
Test
Anonymous No.105993873
>>105993842
Yes, maybe try and OC it a bit as insurance.
Anonymous No.105993884 >>105993907
>>105993693
The PC component manufacturers are mostly the same in terms of QC.
MSI generally sets safer motherboard auto settings and power limits to reduce the number of RMAs, but this doesn't mean their products have better build quality.
I think I've read the fewest complaints about Gigabyte motherboards; the good ASUS boards are overpriced.
ASRock is recommended for price-competitive products.
Anonymous No.105993905 >>105994589
Will a 5070 and a 9600x run any game available at 1440?
Anonymous No.105993907
>>105993884
Thanks. I’ll be prepared when the things start breaking down.
Anonymous No.105993962 >>105994598
if i have 2x8 memory sticks, can i just get the same 2x8 memory kit if it has the same timing and speed? it says there is two XMP profiles possible in BIOS
Anonymous No.105994212 >>105994220
>>105993404
I have no idea what any of these words mean. I hope this isn't a real thing that people have to do.
Anonymous No.105994220 >>105994247 >>105994296
>>105994212
It only affects people who bought 12 and 16 core x3d CPUs
Anonymous No.105994247 >>105994253 >>105994296
>>105994220
Is that the 7800/9800x3d? I was going to get one of those.
Anonymous No.105994253
>>105994247
That's an 8 core so it's not affected
Anonymous No.105994296
>>105994220
yeah i forgot to mention this

>>105994247
no
9800x3d is single ccd
Anonymous No.105994589
>>105993905
Not at maxed out settings, but it should run most games at 1440p high.
Anonymous No.105994598
>>105993962
there's youtube videos from years ago, answering this question in detail. In short. No. Don't do it. Stop being a jew and just get a new set of ram if you want it. Buy it as a complete package or dont do it at all.
Anonymous No.105995055
>>105993766
Zen5 is so fucked
Other than the 9600x, the other skus should be OEM only since no sane diy buyer would bother with the rest of them
Anonymous No.105995158 >>105995199 >>105995210 >>105995272 >>105995332
>>105993323 (OP)
Would Zen 6 be a good time to upgrade from a 13600k?
Anonymous No.105995199
>>105995158
Maybe if they bring out cheaper X3D chips. Also depends on if your 13600K build uses DDR5 RAM that can be repurposed or if it's DDR4-based. If the latter might as well wait for a socket change to DDR6.
Anonymous No.105995210 >>105995921
>>105995158
>upgrade to maybe the last cpu that will be released in socket
if you are running high hz maybe else why would you upgrade from an already capable cpu?
Anonymous No.105995231 >>105995237
>>105993392
thats not "leaked paste" thats thermal putty. holy shit reddit is retarded
Anonymous No.105995237 >>105995246
>>105995231
u av'n a giggle m8?
Anonymous No.105995246 >>105995293
>>105995237
that's just excess thermal putty. gigabyte used putty instead of pads. jesus christ people are fucking retarded. there is nothing wrong with thermal putty. it might look messy but there is nothing wrong with it.
Anonymous No.105995258 >>105995293
>>105993392
>melted
ok now the more i read the more mad i am geteting. putty doesn't fucking melt. holy shit are these inbred fucks or something? how retarded can they be. ITS EXCESS YOU DIPSHITS. its not "melting."
Anonymous No.105995263 >>105995270
Only 4chan can spend hours getting hernias over semantic word games.
Anonymous No.105995270
>>105995263
its not word games. these are retards who do not understand what thermal putty is.
Anonymous No.105995272
>>105995158
It's gonna be just like zen3 is to zen2 so it might be worth it as long as you don't expect to upgrade in-socket
Anonymous No.105995293 >>105995312
>>105995246
>>105995258
They didn't just put excess putty, they put putty that wasn't built correctly and can move about when it's warm
Anonymous No.105995312 >>105995325 >>105995329 >>105995344
>>105995293
no, they didn't. they simply used to much you inbred dipshit. its down syndrome retards leading an army of other down syndrome retards to be mad about something they don't understand for retarded reddit points. go fuck yourself.
Anonymous No.105995325
>>105995312
Read the igorslab breakdown
They didn't formulate the putty right and industry standard putty doesn't behave like the crap they use
Anonymous No.105995329
>>105995312
The irony of you bursting a blood vessel over literally nothing while telling other people not to get mad isn't lost on me.
Anonymous No.105995332
>>105995158
You may as well see what Nova Lake has to offer at that time

Yes I still believe Intlel can pull shit out of the bag
Anonymous No.105995344
>>105995312
gigashyte is the only one with this issue fuck their dumbass cards too busy putting screens on it not enough making their "thermal grease" not operate like fucking shit
Anonymous No.105995448 >>105995459
https://www.trendforce.com/news/2025/07/23/news-ddr6-set-for-2027-mass-adoption-as-memory-giants-reportedly-finalize-prototype-designs/
And DDR5 is just finally getting affordable. Meanwhile...
https://www.techpowerup.com/339012/samsung-and-sk-hynix-delay-ddr4-memory-phase-out-amidst-unexpected-demand
Anonymous No.105995459
>>105995448
Yeah I'm skipping ddr6 until H2 2028 at the earliest
Anonymous No.105995515 >>105995589
The real question is how will CAMM2 heat spreaders look like, especially RGB ones? I can even imagine that they will start putting LCD screens on top of our fucking RAM now.
Anonymous No.105995589 >>105995624
>>105995515
Just use long rods extended from the motherboard screws to mount a 120mm fan bracket to directly cool the ram
No fancy heatspreader needed
Anonymous No.105995624
>>105995589
A 120? That seems like it might fit but it will be tight, and of course has zero compatibility with CPU air coolers. They're also in the exact position to eat hot air from a passthrough GPU, but I guess there is no difference with how it is currently. A full size fan sitting on standoffs over CAMMs would double as a VRM fan too.
Anonymous No.105995639 >>105995719
What do you do after having acquired a 5090?

Are 6090s coming out soon?
Anonymous No.105995719 >>105995728
>>105995639
>What do you do after having acquired a 5090?
Play gaem, buy an oled screen, buy a high hz oled screen and hzmaxx, buy an oled tv and hdrmaxx
>Are 6090s coming out soon?
should be 2027 + whatever time it takes for stock to stabilize so you can buy one (remember 5090)
5090 stock just stabilized, we are like 2 years away from it
Anonymous No.105995728 >>105995847
>>105995719
Apart from the Blackwell delay, Nvidia don't seem to be slowing down their pace of releasing new GPUs so I'd wager next gen is maybe 18 months away
Anonymous No.105995755 >>105995830 >>105995842
I just want hype to die off, i need them 5080
Anonymous No.105995830 >>105995842
>>105995755
define "need" anon.
Anonymous No.105995842
>>105995830
Rendering photorealistic >>105995755
porn and uploading it on r34
Anonymous No.105995847
>>105995728
Idk what I would play if I bogt right now, there are no games, or maybe there is anyway, feels like the next year will go by fast and then a 6090 release will be right h
also next year may gta6 if you wanna play that slop in 60fps you gotta get a ps5 pro
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah I have to consoooom
Anonymous No.105995921 >>105995975
>>105995210
My 1% lows are killing me thanks to shitty game engines and jeetcode even with a 4090 and pumping DLSS
I feel like I need to brute force it with a better CPU.
Nothing wrong with upgrading to the final CPU on an established socket.
Anonymous No.105995975 >>105995987
>>105995921
I feel if you were on a 13900k instead and some good ram you would have been fine for ages
but yea guess it will be better
Anonymous No.105995987 >>105995998 >>105996140
>>105995975
I'm really glad I didn't go for a 13900k just for gaming in light of everything that has happened
Anonymous No.105995998 >>105996048
>>105995987
>in light of everything that has happened
nothing happened and if it did intel give u an rma
and certain schizos who shall not be named still prefer intel to x3d
but maybe without magic tuning it really is much worse idk
Anonymous No.105996048
>>105995998
Holy shit I prefer Intel (not really a shill for either company) but this is some pure denial
Anonymous No.105996140
>>105995987
You're lucky you didn't tb h
I dumped mine for a 7800x3d because it was chewing through 200W of power in denuvo games, often using more power than my 4090
Anonymous No.105996148 >>105996272
god damnit more on sale to get fomo over now, herman miller has a sale now too
embody or aeron which is the better one? I need to go to a store and seat them
Anonymous No.105996157 >>105996221 >>105996925
>>105993323 (OP)
>96 cores, 192 threads at 5ghz
holy shit
Anonymous No.105996219
>>105993610
Dude I have the exact same monitor, that is so based
Anonymous No.105996221 >>105996253 >>105996350
>>105996157
>96 cores, 192 threads at 5ghz
>~1000w CPU
I'm surprised it would even post using only an AIO. Figured you'd need an open loop or CO2/LN2 for that.
Anonymous No.105996253 >>105996272
>>105996221
Have you seen how Jayz does it? You take an AIO and then stick it into an ice bucket, waving it around manually.
Anonymous No.105996272 >>105996456
>>105996148
>embody or aeron which is the better one? I need to go to a store and seat them
Surely there's reverse engineered Chinese versions of those things being sold on AliExpress/TEMU, etc. for a fraction of the price?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqWDhmjUdaM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srYOnX3irhw

>>105996253
>Have you seen how Jayz does it? You take an AIO and then stick it into an ice bucket, waving it around manually.
Kek, I forgot about that "technique".
Anonymous No.105996350
>>105996221
yes thats nuts
its not that long ago that intel needed a sub ambient 1kw chiller to do 5ghz on just 28 skylake cores
Anonymous No.105996456
>>105996272
>Surely there's reverse engineered Chinese vers
*BANG*
Anonymous No.105996759 >>105996785
Does the MSI B840 GAMING PLUS WIFI support the r5 9600x out of the box without a BIOS update or not?
This shit is pretty baffling, when half the motherboards on pcpartpicker list some compatibility issues and the manufacturer sites are obtuse as fuck.
Anonymous No.105996785 >>106002717
>>105996759
Pcpp is just fearmongering
The x670e board I bought 4 months ago came with a Ryzen 9000 bios preloaded and could boot my 9800x3d without any hiccups
To answer your question, b840 is guaranteed to support Ryzen 9000
Anonymous No.105996847
>>105992516
>>105992596
>>105992618
I can resell the monitors but I looked on eBay and the KTC literally never gets sold at all being a no name brand so I don't know if I'd even get anything for it

The Asus I'd make a loss because sellers on there already have it around a similar price I bought it for and can offer free delivery

But I think you're right in that it's probably dumb to keep both monitors and switch them up now and again for the fun of it. I don't see myself moving to a dual monitor setup anytime soon, maybe for future use? Idk if it's worth keeping around in the hope I do kek.
Anonymous No.105996925
>>105996157
why does everybody still use R23?
Anonymous No.105997008 >>105997039 >>105997047 >>105997068 >>105997074
>>105994485
>7800x3d is the comfier CPU
>It has 8 real cores and there is no need to deal with e-cores and it uses only 40W in most games

This was the most useful response. I kinda forgot 14600k only has 6 physical cores. And the wattage is what's attractive in AMD to me anyway: you can run relatively small tower to cool it.

>>105994408
>but the i5s on raptor lake are where ddr4 vs ddr5 starts to matter a decent bit even in video gaymes.
>>105994408
>13600k/14600k will throttle at stock even with the best air coolers. Even with a 360mm shitty aio it'll hit like 90c+.
May I see proof of that? Also your metairony cringe at the end of post was really embarrassing.

>>105994716
>don't forget the 14700K
It's not $230 so a worse deal.


Still looking for anyone to actually convince me
Anonymous No.105997039 >>105997066
>>105997008
>It's not $230 so a worse deal
it has 8 real cores so that's why you should take it into consideration
and those meme cores are really useful when you need to compile shaders for half an hour
but if it's efficiency you're after AMD is the only option
Anonymous No.105997047 >>105997065
>>105997008
Beware: Intel Raptor Lake CPUs won't be as fast as launch-day reviews promise. Maybe 5% slower.
Anonymous No.105997065
>>105997047
there's literally no proof of this anywhere
maybe if your motherboard was juicing up the power with the launch BIOS but that doesn't affect gaming
Anonymous No.105997066
>>105997039
>it has 8 real cores so that's why you should take it into consideration
It's 250W TDP lmao ain't no way I'm buying that for $500. I guess there's really no way but to get an AMD. Maybe X3D cache would be kind to me in shit like Tarkov too.

Thanks.
Anonymous No.105997068 >>105997087 >>105997142
>>105997008
you can't really run a relatively small tower to cool the 7800X3D. With a dual tower it will still run around 75-85 maxed out
Anonymous No.105997074
>>105997008
>This was the most useful response.
The wattage was the biggest factor in my moving from a 13900k to a 7800x3d, and it was entirely worth it to me. Before the 13900k i've been all in on intel cpus but their raptorlake lineup is way overtuned and runs too hot.
Anonymous No.105997087
>>105997068
but you can and you won't lose much from doing so unlike on raptorlake
and the amount of thermal watts released into your vicinity is significantly smaller so you don't need to turn on the AC
Anonymous No.105997142 >>105997157 >>105997199 >>105997244
>>105997068
>you can't really run a relatively small tower to cool the 7800X3D. With a dual tower it will still run around 75-85 maxed out
I am planning on ARTIC Freezer 36. It's rated for like 200TDP. Should be enough, no? The "relatively small" means not 1.5KG dual tower, in my book.
Anonymous No.105997157
>>105997142
its just fud. compared to other cpus, 7800x3d runs hot for how little it pulls, sure, but it also pulls very little power most times and doesn't demand a lot of cooling. it will work well on your tower air cooler.
Anonymous No.105997190 >>105997203 >>105997208 >>106002369
I have a 5700x3d, is CL16-19-19-39 3600mT/s good for it? (gskill ripjaws V if it matters)
Anonymous No.105997199 >>105997305
>>105997142
it'll probably hit 90 maxed out but its supposed to be fine at 95 degrees though i have my doubts
Anonymous No.105997203
>>105997190
sure why not
Anonymous No.105997208
>>105997190
timings are fine
matters less with vcache anyways
Anonymous No.105997244 >>105997255 >>105997312
>>105997142
Air cooler rated TDP is the same as PSU rated max wattage; you never use it up to the marketed limit.
Anonymous No.105997255 >>105997312
>>105997244
It cooled 219W of 13700K to failure in TH tests. 7800X3D should be fine.
Anonymous No.105997305
>>105997199
7800x3d tjmax is 89C
the only time it will ever hit that high is shader pre-compilation or cinebench
Anonymous No.105997312 >>105997400 >>105998246
>>105997244
sorta true
>>105997255
and the same cooler will cool 400W on threadrippers
its pointless to compare cooler TDP across different cpus
Anonymous No.105997400 >>105998246 >>105998650
>>105997312
>and the same cooler will cool 400W on threadrippers
Source?
>its pointless to compare cooler TDP across different cpus
Not if CPU you are comparing 7800X3D to is much hotter.

Honestly, you sound oblivious.
Anonymous No.105997599 >>105998108 >>105998685
Are Asrock motherboards still kind of crappy in this day and age?
Anonymous No.105997881 >>105998089 >>105998694
sup /g/, i build a 850€ gaymen pc, did i fuck up?

5060ti 16GB
ryzen7600
some asrock mobo
1TB nvme
32GB ram 6000 cl30
750W gold PSU
Anonymous No.105997916 >>105998135
What do you think of my sound dampening and LED blocking panel solution
I have neither foam nor a be quiet case so I had to improvise
Anonymous No.105998089 >>105998096 >>105998272
>>105997881
overkill psu
Anonymous No.105998096
>>105998089
i know but it was literally only 12€ more than the 650W one
Anonymous No.105998108
>>105997599
they're good now
Anonymous No.105998135 >>105998258
>>105997916
Unless you have mechanical drives or parts with noticeable coil whine then sound dampening is largely pointless
Your cooling solution's effectiveness goes down which means your fans will have to run faster and create mroe noise anyway
As for LED, can't you just download some software from the manufacturer to turn them off?
Anonymous No.105998137 >>105998298
Is that a mousepad?
Anonymous No.105998144 >>105998152
>>>105992029
What do you use? Everything is optimized for nvidia
Anonymous No.105998152
>>105998144
nigga all ai uses python. it isn't exclusive to nvidia.
Anonymous No.105998246
>>105997312
>>105997400
NTA, but most air coolers can handle higher power loads when cooling an Intel CPU.
Difference in heat density and hotspot location.
For reference, the 7700X's PPT is less than 145W (TDP * 1.35).
Anonymous No.105998258
>>105998135
>Unless you have mechanical drives or parts with noticeable coil whin
I have 3-5 hard disks at any given time and a GPU with a shitty heatsink and noisy fans that only run at 30% of off
I don't see how putting that onto the glass would negatively affect cooling unless there's just that much thermal radiation being absorbed by the glass in which case might as well just find a normal metal panel for it
>as for LED, can't you just download some software from the manufacturer to turn them of
Not that I know of for the Hyper 212, might just tape them off at the source if it doesn't overheat
Anonymous No.105998272 >>105998384
>>105998089
>overkill psu
nah he'll be fine
Psu loses wattage over time
wondering more what "some asrock mobo" is
Anonymous No.105998298
>>105998137
Yes, yes it is
I haven't figured out where to buy black foam or rubber from locally so that's all I got
Anonymous No.105998384 >>105998396
>>105998272
the mobo is B650m HDV, it was literally 90€ but has good reviews
Anonymous No.105998396
>>105998384
>it was 90 euro
You know what, finding mobos around 100 dollars or lower is so rare these days I'll let that slide
Anonymous No.105998430 >>105998510 >>105998552 >>105998613 >>105998620 >>105998671 >>105998737
Is it worth putting a desiccant in your pc case?
Anonymous No.105998510
>>105998430
do you live in a rain forest?
Anonymous No.105998552
>>105998430
thats a cool idea actually i might do this even though i live well above the water line in a relatively dry climate
Anonymous No.105998613
>>105998430
Honestly a very good idea, while thank god my decade old components are doing okay, the case fucking rusted, and the desiccant will work very will with the heat.
Anonymous No.105998620
>>105998430
i thought those only work well in sealed containers. for example beef jerky bags. a case isnt really sealed it has holes.
Anonymous No.105998650
>>105997400
7800x3d is not that hot. it runs way cooler than the 13900k and 9800x3d
Anonymous No.105998671
>>105998430
as long as the desiccant isn't rice
Anonymous No.105998685
>>105997599
i've been using one for slightly more than a year and its been fine
no fried 7800x3d or 9800x3d so far
Anonymous No.105998694 >>105998753 >>106001767
>>105997881
What not look at a 9070 XT or even better a 7800 XT, I would have bought the latter if I had a 700w+ gpu but I settled for a lower tdp card.
Anonymous No.105998737
>>105998430
chatgpt says reddit says no
Anonymous No.105998753
>>105998694
nigga the 9070XT costs almost as my entire build, what are you smoking
Anonymous No.105998977 >>105999507
powercolor bros
Anonymous No.105999051 >>105999135
Cant decide which air cooler to choose. ps120, pretor 130, ak620 digital pro or something else. No reviews that compare them or reviews have different results.
Anonymous No.105999077
>asus added w11 dynamic lighting support on 600 series mobos, but not on 800 otherwise it would undermine their armory crate bloatware
i dont want to install bloatware
openrgb seems to be causing issues on windows
fucking fractal cases have better support than the high end mobos
Anonymous No.105999084
fyi I asked phanteks info on t30 140, and they said should be on the market at the end of q3 if anon is waiting
Anonymous No.105999096 >>105999149 >>105999157
Good afternoon, I hate SATA cables and tight cases.
Anonymous No.105999135 >>106001767
>>105999051
I honestly don't understand the new trend of having to have a tower cooler, most new processors have low TDP and run very cool compared to older generations, if you don't plan on overclocking just use the stock cooler, if it doesn't come with one buy the cheapest highest reviewed one you can find, the money is better spent else where.
Anonymous No.105999149 >>105999157 >>105999394
>>105999096
>got a faggot baby case
>didnt get 90 degree angle sata cables
Anonymous No.105999157 >>105999179
>>105999096
Fucking same bro, and shitty motherboards with not enough ports or weird placement, and the most horrendous of all, motherboards that share SATA and m2 lanes and disable the ports if the m2 is in use.
>>105999149
>Had faggot old case.
>New card wouldn't fit in.
I feel you bro.
Anonymous No.105999179
>>105999157
>new card wouldnt fit
Anonymous No.105999295 >>105999328
Novideo driver status?
Anonymous No.105999301 >>105999349 >>106001778
idk if this is the right thread to ask so sorry for being a faggot

got a 18TB HDD to replace my 4TB old failing HDD

how do i transfer all the files from my old 4tb to the new 18tb?
just copy/paste the files? im scared that Windows file transfe will fuck something up...
Anonymous No.105999328 >>105999407 >>105999434 >>105999600
>>105999295
nvidia just got new drivers a day or two ago.
amd drivers are still MIA
Anonymous No.105999349 >>105999373 >>105999413
>>105999301
Google disk cloning, you connect the two disks, and whatever software you decide on using clones the smaller one unto the larger one, whatever brand you bought likely has it's own cloning software, so use that.
Anonymous No.105999373 >>105999413
>>105999349
oh you are right, there is literally a sticker on the new HDD shilling the Acronis software

i guess ill just use that then, thanks
Anonymous No.105999394 >>105999424
>>105999149
This case I'm using 90 degree cables and it still requires me to bend them likely to unsafe levels, the only reason it is hard to close the case
You have to route them that way to connect 2.5" drives, and stupidly enough the slot on the bottom gets blocked if you use sata cables there
Anonymous No.105999407
>>105999328
amd quarterly driver releases is a feature not a bug
Anonymous No.105999413
>>105999349
>>105999373
nevermind i found the superior solution
https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-server/administration/windows-commands/robocopy
Anonymous No.105999424 >>105999488
>>105999394
Another thing to consider is the notch in the cabling and the mobo sockets, you could get the fucking 90 degree cables only to find out they won't fit because the notch is the other way around and the cable still won't fit.
Anonymous No.105999434 >>105999448
>>105999328
Doesn't matter since modded in FSR 4 even is better then flickery DLSS. >>105993709
Once the driver drops and official implementation arrives it will be even more over for novideo slop scaling 4
Anonymous No.105999448 >>105999545
>>105999434
>'better in this one specific instance'
Do you stare at that field all the time when you play Cyberpunk?
AMD is the first to admit they're behind NVIDIA in terms of upscaling.
Anonymous No.105999461 >>105999469 >>105999471 >>105999474 >>105999476 >>105999485 >>105999525
>106Β°C hotspot temp
>70Β°C regular temp
do I need to worry about this or is it actually so over for my gpu?
Anonymous No.105999469
>>105999461
let me guess, rtx3080?
you should repaste since 105C hotspot causes throttling
Anonymous No.105999471
>>105999461
phase change pad might help
Anonymous No.105999474
>>105999461
I'd get a fresh coat of thermal paste before jumping to any conclusions.
Anonymous No.105999476 >>105999484
>>105999461
the delta between edge and hotspot shouild be more than 21c.

36c means the it needs a repaste.
Anonymous No.105999484
>>105999476
should be no more than 21c*
Anonymous No.105999485
>>105999461
Is it a Gigabyte Radeon card? The maximum hotspot temp for RX 7000 GPUs is around 110Β°C.
Wouldn't be surprised if RX 9000 has the same thermal limits.
Anonymous No.105999488
>>105999424
Or you get 90 degree SATA ports on the motherboard which seems like the default these days until you realize not all cases play nice with them, while some dont even fit.
Anonymous No.105999507 >>105999545 >>105999643
>>105998977
Red Devil's led gem is too silly for me, I would have gone for it it was as clean as the Hellhound. Nitro+'s the better high end design for RDNA 4.
Anonymous No.105999525
>>105999461
repaste and repad and then check agin, if its over 100C again then the card is 100% dying
Anonymous No.105999545 >>105999575 >>105999623
>>105999448
>>105999507
>Nitro+'s the better high end design for RDNA 4.
>12 volt high failure connector used for power delivery
Lol no. Why would you get a card using that piece of shit when one of the perks of Radeon is being able to avoid that dogshit and have peace of mind with reliable 8 pins?
Anonymous No.105999575
>>105999545
Show me a single example of 12V-2x6 failure on a 9070XT (I'll even take a Taichi).
Anonymous No.105999600 >>105999616 >>105999621 >>106002387
>>105999328
this game is half a decade old at this point how in the fuck are we still treating it like a new release tech demo
Anonymous No.105999616
>>105999600
it actually released in 2023
somehow rest of the industry hasnt released anything more relevant in the last 2 years
Anonymous No.105999621
>>105999600
its still hard to run sloppa that constantly gets new graphical features to sell new gpus
Anonymous No.105999623 >>105999841
>>105999545
>moves the goalpost
People are still willing to pay over $2000 for the 5090, and they'd buy a 4090 @ MSRP if they can find one.
How many 5080 and 5070 Ti have melted so far? Those are the cards that compete against Radeon's highest performance tier.
Anonymous No.105999643
>>105999507
the nitro+ holes look like sexy fishnet to me
Anonymous No.105999674 >>105999728
I forgot where I left the double sided adhesive so you know what, I don't even care
Anonymous No.105999712 >>105999813
Anyone using OLED TV as monitor?
Anonymous No.105999728
>>105999674
This shit is why I bought a huge ass antec c8 so I would never worry about will something fit again and can just keep resusing the same case.
Anonymous No.105999732 >>105999742
need a recommendation for a new build for a friend, budget is 1-1.5k euro, Finland. 1080p, old pc is a shit prebuilt from years ago
use cases would be music production with fl studio, general web browsing, sometimes gaming on competitive multiplayer games with low graphics (cs, league of legends, etc)
Anonymous No.105999742 >>106001802
>>105999732
is there any reason someone like that wouldnt just get a 4k display, nicer to look at when producing things
LoL can then be played at 1080p and it scales evenly
Anonymous No.105999813
>>105999712
me
Anonymous No.105999841 >>105999871 >>105999889
>>105999623
https://www.reddit.com/r/ASUS/comments/1inhbo7/does_rog_lokis_molted_rtx_5000_gpu_12vhpwr_cable/#lightbox
https://youtu.be/kb5YzMoVQyw?si=ODYFxJEkk70zt9gV

Objectively flawed unsafe design. Stop doing unpaid damage control for a trillion dollar corporation. You cannot safely deliver hundreds of watts of power through one connector that only has a 10% safety margin and no load balancing to ensure that none of the cables get overloaded with current due to resistance. They had it right with 30 series then realized they could save a little money on each card and do planned obsolescence with a worse design. These are all facts stop denying reality.
Anonymous No.105999871 >>105999896
>>105999841
but does the nitro+ have load balancing
Anonymous No.105999889 >>105999921
>>105999841
I wonder why NVIDIA is selling the RTX Pro 6000 Blackwell with the full 600W power limit if the board design is so unsafe?
It's safe enough for the consumer to be mass-produced.
Stop exaggerating the risks. The recently repaired 4090 in DerBauer's video used the older 12VHPWR connector that also had the riskier vBIOS that had a maximum voltage of 1.1V.
Revised RTX 40 cards (including Super) and all of the RTX 50 cards have a safer voltage limit of 1.075V.
Anonymous No.105999896
>>105999871
It doesn't, the Taichi doesn't have it either.
Anonymous No.105999909 >>105999949
>>105993392
Yeah the issue is minor and real but has been blown out of proportion by the lobotomite user base of Reddit. I’ve had one of these since launch day and the gel hasn’t moved one millimeter. They’re fucking fine.
Anonymous No.105999921 >>105999963
>>105999889
>riskier vBIOS that had a maximum voltage of 1.1V.
But that's irrelevant since the problem isn't the core or vrms, and a 4090 running at 1.1v still pulls 20% less power than the 6000 pro or 5090
Anonymous No.105999926
>>105993693
You will switch to Asus or something and then freak out when the next bad story about whichever AIB you went with comes out because every AIB is basically identical. Go with whichever one hasn’t screwed you yet.
Anonymous No.105999944 >>105999962 >>106003155
>>105993766
I jumped from a 5900x to a 7950x and the performance wasnt worth all the struggle with unstable ram etc. Zen 4 > 5
Anonymous No.105999949 >>105999974
>>105999909
I have the same experience as you. The far bigger issue that nobody other than igors talks about is that the paste gigabyte uses on the core of these gpus pumps out quickly. They should have gone with ptm7950 like asus and msi did.
Anonymous No.105999962
>>105999944
when did you buy your 7950x? september 2022?
Anonymous No.105999963 >>105999973
>>105999921
It's relevant enough for NVIDIA to set a lower maximum limit.
This change also applied to later regular RTX 40 series cards like the 4090 and 4080.
Anonymous No.105999973 >>105999992 >>106000019
>>105999963
Its irrelevant in that it has no relation to melting connectors at all
Anonymous No.105999974 >>105999994
>>105999949
Well my Gigabyte card is fine and temps are good but since I have so much PTM7950 left over from repasting my laptop, maybe I should repaste the GPU and show everyone how little difference it makes.
Anonymous No.105999992 >>106000013
>>105999973
why has the 5090 had a significantly lower incidence rate of melting cables then
Anonymous No.105999994 >>106000008
>>105999974
Just keep an eye out on throttling behavior by the time its 12-18 months old. It might need a repaste badly by then. Nvidia made it especially hard to check this gen by removing the hotspot sensor lol
Anonymous No.106000008
>>105999994
I have an RX 9070 XT so I still got one. The card seems about as easy as last gen gigabyte cards to take apart (good but not great).
Anonymous No.106000010 >>106000145
Checkem
Anonymous No.106000013
>>105999992
Yes, and 5090s have an even higher core voltages than 4090s by running at 1.075v at stock unlockable up to 1.100v
Anonymous No.106000019 >>106000044
>>105999973
You are retarded, a higher voltage limit allows the card to push higher boost clocks.
High boost clocks need to be fed with higher current (more calculations completed per second).
That makes 1.1V RTX cards riskier to run compared to ones with a 1.075V limit (assuming same 12VHPWR/12V-2x6 connector being used).
Anonymous No.106000044 >>106000056
>>106000019
27W from that 0.025v difference clearly makes a world of difference
Anonymous No.106000051
>>105990578
>Do you have an older PC or laptop laying around or do you mean buying one online? Either way, a laptop for a NAS sounds horrible.
i have them at home yeah, i have a few old laptops and PCs
and why is a laptop for NAS horrible?
Anonymous No.106000056 >>106000066
>>106000044
It was enough to convince NVIDIA to set that lower limit to every single RTX 40 & 50 series card.
Anonymous No.106000066 >>106000091 >>106000110
>>106000056
I can think of better ideas why they did it and its not to reduce the risk of melting connectors when in their minds, they have already solved it with the updated 12v-2x6 connector
Anonymous No.106000091 >>106000138
>>106000066
>they have already solved it with the updated 12v-2x6 connector
It didn't solve anything watch the buildzoid and derbaurer video. There is no load balancing like 3090ti so even the smallest resistance will cause an uneven power draw through just a few or even one of the cables. Any 5090 that isn't undervolted to a safer power draw and sees regular use is going to be in the trash 5 years from now.
Anonymous No.106000110 >>106000138
>>106000066
Well, you thought wrong. NVIDIA could've just updated the power connector and left the 1.1V limit on the 4090 as-is.
You're just downplaying the effects; most of the cards will be running at the maximum voltage limit since this is the stock behavior.
Anonymous No.106000138 >>106000215
>>106000091
Like I said, according to nvidia they thought it was fixed
>>106000110
Wrong. All 4090s run at 1.05v at stock. The change only affected overclockers.
Anonymous No.106000145
>>106000010
You’re a failure, anon.
Anonymous No.106000149 >>106000165 >>106002397
they called me blackwell

remember me
Anonymous No.106000152
https://www.dsogaming.com/articles/heres-what-happened-to-the-12vhpwr-power-cable-of-our-nvidia-rtx-4090-after-two-years-of-continuous-work/
Pic related is what the official connector that came with an RTX 4090 looks like after two years of regular use. Nice melted plastic, and this card draws 150 watts less then 5090. If you own a 5090 and don't undervolt you are at risk of cable failure and fire in the future it's as simple as that.
Anonymous No.106000155 >>106000171 >>106000200 >>106000204
What should I build if I only watch twitch and play some indie 2D roguelites?
Anonymous No.106000165 >>106002403
>>106000149
FIND GOULD

Great now I need to replay the trilogy
Anonymous No.106000171 >>106000648
>>106000155
you want an nvidia gpu for working hardware accelerated decoding. an nvidia rtx4060 or rtx5050 will be perfect since they use very little power
Anonymous No.106000200
>>106000155
A Lego set? Just buy an old laptop and save yourself the time and money if you don’t need any power.
Anonymous No.106000204
>>106000155
https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-ryzen-9000g-apus-for-am5-socket-expected-launch-in-q4-2025
Wait a few months for the 9000G apus to come out. They will be more then sufficient for that use case. And in the future iif you wanna do more serious gaming since you are on AM5 you can swap out for an X3D processor if needed and get a dedicated gpu.
>106000171
You don't need a dedicated gpu to watch twitch and play indie games rape yourself njduea shill
Anonymous No.106000215
>>106000138
DerBauer already tested the RTX Pro 6000 Blackwell, and there were no noticeable changes made to the PCB.
12V-2x6 is safe enough for a 600W workstation card, and it's safe enough to be used in higher-end RX 9070 XT cards.
Anonymous No.106000220
>>106000000
Anonymous No.106000412 >>106000439 >>106000536
https://wccftech.com/amd-radeon-rx-9070-xt-surprisingly-beats-out-nvidia-geforce-rtx-5080-in-vulkan-dx12-benchmarks/
>The 9070 XT beats the 5080 by +10% with Vulkan, destroys it with +110% in DX12 (but see earlier posts, NVIDIA's preview driver for Blackwell is bad.)
Radeon won. RDNA 4 believers won. There are going to be mass suicides of Cuckwell bag holders once the official ROCm support for windows releases later this year.
Anonymous No.106000439
>>106000412
>Radeon won in Cyberpunk grassfields
>Radeon won in NTC because it was running on DP4A
Apples to oranges.
Anonymous No.106000536 >>106000571 >>106000584 >>106000800
>>106000412
I just feel bad for anybody who overpaid for a 16gb 5070ti or 5080 when the 24gb versions are coming out in 5 months
Anonymous No.106000571
>>106000536
No guarantees of reasonable pricing or availability of those Super cards.
The longer you wait to buy those Supers, the closer you get to the RTX 60 release date.

>coming out in 5 months
The earliest announcement (not launch) will be at CES 2026, Q1 launch but GL finding one.
Anonymous No.106000584
>>106000536
5070 ti at MSRP is a reasonable purchase but the fake "5080" is literally a scam. People here and the whole tech media said it was bad and obviously a rugpull card since nvidia learned from the 4080 12gb debacle and realized they need to launch the worse fake one first, I don't feel that bad for anyone who was still dumb enough to purchase one regardless.
Anonymous No.106000633 >>106000757 >>106000873
https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/LBGDv4
Need your thoughts before i press buy button.
Gpu will be 5070 ti or 5080, depends which one i will get below msrp.
1000w because its only 40€ more and maybe i will upgrade to x3d and better gpu next year,
Anonymous No.106000648
>>106000171
Wat he should just use integrated graphics like an 8700G. This is about equal to having a gtx 1660.
Anonymous No.106000724 >>106000833
Gotta say I expected more.


I was hoping for 60fps minimums across the board

Only goes from 30fps to 40fps +10fps

Even people with Allys or steam decks I'm not seeing a point to upgrade
Anonymous No.106000755
Does a 6+2 pin connection work the same way a 8 pin would?
Anonymous No.106000757 >>106000838 >>106000873
>>106000633
Id get a pcie 5 nvme likes samsung 9100 since the mobo supports 1
the psu only makes sense if you buy 5090 tier wattage gpu
why not buy 9800x3d now, you'd save the cost of buying a redundant 9600x

I'd get a fractal north case
Anonymous No.106000800
>>106000536
There's no point feeling bad for people who buy GPUs at launch they just sell them and buy the new one they don't even lose any money on the sale these days
Anonymous No.106000833
>>106000724
The GPU is the bottleneck.
We'll know AMD made significant improvements when the Steam Deck 2 hardware specs are revealed.
Anonymous No.106000838
>>106000757
Because idk if i need x3D, in the newest HU video at 1440p theres not a big difference between x3d and 7600x with 5080.
Anonymous No.106000841 >>106000850 >>106000875 >>106000933 >>106001173 >>106001319
Is 4k gaming a meme and if so why
Anonymous No.106000850 >>106000877
>>106000841
depends on your gpu and monitor
upscaling largely removed the big barrier to running games at 4k
Anonymous No.106000873 >>106000914
>>106000633
looks fine, but upgrading within a generation is retarded
either commit to 9600x or just get 9800x3d right now
pcie 5.0 ssds are a meme dont listen to this dumbass >>106000757
Anonymous No.106000875
>>106000841
5090
OLED
DLSS4
MFG4
Anonymous No.106000877 >>106000904 >>106000930 >>106001091
>>106000850
Lets say a system with a 9800x3d, an XFX mercury 9070XT and 2Γ—32gb DDR5 CL30-6000 RAM
Anonymous No.106000886 >>106000900
was getting tempted by that ktc miniLED but then saw a video saying you need 20,000 LEDs to make it worth it 1000 is nowhere near enough

it looks like the next monitor will be OLED after all but I don't want that shit my monitors are on at least 12 hours a day
Anonymous No.106000900
>>106000886
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvCuFkKi9Tk
>Keep in mind that the haloing visual artifacts you see in the video are caused by the camera (such as the hotel scene at 2:14) and aren’t visible in real use.
>We weren’t able to capture the actual blooming with our camera.
https://www.displayninja.com/ktc-m27t6-review/
Anonymous No.106000904
>>106000877
People hype the dlss transformer model upsaclaling from 1080p to 4k as being really good compared to quality mode for 1440p.
FSR4 is fine, but not as good as 5070 ti with transformer model + game support is much less for fsr 4.

In amd shoes I would probably look at 1440p 360hz qd oled monitors as the best average experience.
Anonymous No.106000914 >>106000950
>>106000873
Ill stay with 9600x, ill upgrade to x3D when the final am5 cpu comes out.
Do i downgrade to 850w psu?
Anonymous No.106000930
>>106000877
It depends on how much you're willing to adjust settings (including FSR4 quality) to hit your expected performance @ 4K.
You need to buy a monitor and try it out. Keep the box & packaging in case you want to return it.
Anonymous No.106000933
>>106000841
It makes all my games look good so I have no desire to fall for FOTM which makes it a meme as i'm not consooming properly, so sayeth ubisoft.
Anonymous No.106000936 >>106000946 >>106000947 >>106000984
Update on RAM issues, reseating didn't fix everything, I get two errors on 4 passes testing both sticks after dropping the clock rate from 7200mhz to 7000, one error with one stick in slot B2. Should I just keep dropping or raise the voltage until I get no errors or have Corsair sent me faulty RAM? I find that hard to believe.
Anonymous No.106000946 >>106000963
>>106000936
Intel?
Anonymous No.106000947 >>106000963
>>106000936
does your mobo/cpu even support over 6mhz
Anonymous No.106000950
>>106000914
>Do i downgrade to 850w psu?
850W is fine for either card + a high-end Ryzen CPU, even 750W would work for gaming.
Anonymous No.106000963 >>106000985 >>106000986
>>106000946
Yes, 14700k, I've checked the pins and CPU and they look fine.
>>106000947
Mobo up to 7600, RAM is on qvl, CPU no, up to 5600 but I just assumed XMP though technically an overclock is a stable one.
Anonymous No.106000984 >>106001024
>>106000936
Not all Intel 13/14th gen CPU's IMC can stably run those speeds.
Try dropping the speed to 6800MT/s and check for errors.
It sucks, but that's how it goes.

You can only blame Corsair if you're sure your CPU is good enough to run 7000~7200MT/s on your board, and if the memory module is producing errors @ standard JEDEC settings (4800 or 5600 @ 1.1V).
Anonymous No.106000985 >>106001024
>>106000963
try a bios update
Anonymous No.106000986 >>106001024 >>106002421
>>106000963
>14700k

>There's a greater prevalence of crashes in places where temperatures have spiked due to heatwaves, and the 14700K CPU is suffering in particular

is there a heatwave in your country?
Anonymous No.106001024 >>106001070
>>106000984
This is new RAM I got from an RMA, previously I was getting hundreds of errors on one stick so assumed that was faulty, I wonder if it's a combination of various things now. I'll keep dropping and fiddling until it's stable.
>>106000985
It's up to date
>>106000986
Funnily enough, there was, and I've been trying to get temps down so have been running lots of stress tests and really pushing it. Maybe heat fucked the memory controller.
Anonymous No.106001070
>>106001024
You can set a lower power limit to your CPU, like 125W, if you're just memory stress testing.
It might take longer to catch errors since the CPU performance will be throttled.
Anonymous No.106001091
>>106000877
I play in 4k with a 9070xt and a 5700x. But my monitor (48" tv) is only 60hz so that is what I aim for and this does it in every game.
Anonymous No.106001137 >>106001191
9070xt status?
Anonymous No.106001159
qrd on 7600x vs 9600x for 1080p sweaty games
Anonymous No.106001173
>>106000841
>5090
>60 fake frames per second
Anonymous No.106001191
>>106001137
The 1440p value GOAT. 5700 XT successor but this time with no buggy drivers and feature set nearly on par with njudea.
Anonymous No.106001319
>>106000841
Not a meme for old games if you're on LCD as opposed to CRT
Anonymous No.106001333 >>106001339 >>106001424 >>106001434 >>106001548 >>106002460
Why doesn't AMD put 3D vcache on both CCDs for the 9950x3d
Anonymous No.106001339
>>106001333
Linus has redeemed
Anonymous No.106001404
I've been on a Kingston 400 for like the last 8 years and I thought it's about time to upgrade already.
Any recs? Looking for 2TB, ceiling at 200 bucks.
Currently looking at WD Black SN770 or Red SN700 (old mobo with pcie 3)
Anonymous No.106001411
oooh woe me I forgot to read the sticky.
Anonymous No.106001424 >>106001447
>>106001333
Because it would have no real gaming benefit and increase the cost even higher. Most games don't use more then 8 cores max and since it's two ccds if you wanted to use all 16 cores the game would have to go between them both causing latency and stutter issues potentially. It's better to just have one ccd with the 3dvcache for gaymin. Zen 6 we will get 12 core chiplets with vcache.
Anonymous No.106001434 >>106001447
>>106001333
Too expensive with no benefit due to how L3 works across multiple CCDs. Hint: it's not a single blob.
Anonymous No.106001447
>>106001424
>>106001434
ty saars for the explanation.
Anonymous No.106001508 >>106001592 >>106001951
5050 a good card?
Anonymous No.106001548 >>106001574 >>106001609 >>106002232
>>106001333
They think it would cost them money
They are retarded
If they made the 9950X3D dual CCD it would easily sellout much more than the current one they released. Everyone was waiting for that.

They said there was no benefit and produced no proof of that
Anonymous No.106001574
>>106001548
name 7 games that will use 16 cores
Anonymous No.106001592
>>106001508
Fuck no I would rather get a 20 series card
Anonymous No.106001609
>>106001548
>They said there was no benefit and produced no proof of that
Someone else already explained the cross-CCD latency penalty, and some shitty game engines proved it's bad to use both CCDs in latency-sensitive tasks.
A 7950X3D performs worse than a 12600K in Total War: Warhammer III because the engine's trying to use all available CPU threads.

AMD initially thought of releasing a 5950X3D with 2x CCDs with a 3D stacked chiplet; their internal tests showed the variant with 1x CCD was optimal for gaming.
https://youtu.be/RTA3Ls-WAcw?t=790
Anonymous No.106001767
>>105999135
>>105998694
Is this literally paid AMD shill?
Anonymous No.106001778
>>105999301
I have copied 4TB overnight before using windows copy, it's completely fine.
Anonymous No.106001802
>>105999742
NTA but yes, there are reasons. Preferred distance to a monitor for example, limited by desk width and maximum chair recline. My eyes hurt when I look at 1440p or 4k monitors from 1 meter away, I need to get to at least 1.5 meters and this is unreasonable for normal PC ergonomics. 24" 1080p is the biggest I can get.
Anonymous No.106001900 >>106001952
dusty case anon here
i ordered a vacuum cleaner
Anonymous No.106001951
>>106001508
You gan get 6600XT or 2060, or maybe even 3060 sometimes, for those money.
Anonymous No.106001952 >>106001973
>>106001900
it's not gonna work
you need canned compressed air or an actual blower
Anonymous No.106001973 >>106001996
>>106001952
an okay hairdryer with coned head does it, that's how I always did it
Anonymous No.106001996 >>106002008
>>106001973
what if i have dust on my motherboard? should i just use my hot air station to desolder everything?
Anonymous No.106002008 >>106002021
>>106001996
I don't understand the question. What kind of dust do you have that focused hair drier doesn't blow it away?
Anonymous No.106002021
>>106002008
it was a joke
Anonymous No.106002043 >>106002067 >>106002072 >>106002074 >>106002470
would something cheap like this work?
https://www.amazon.com/Compressed-Air-Duster-100000RPM-Rechargeable/dp/B0F9DSRGVN
Anonymous No.106002062 >>106002074 >>106002126 >>106002431
Completed it on AMD Radeon RX 9070 XT
Anonymous No.106002067
>>106002043
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_ncYXk1cP4
Anonymous No.106002072
>>106002043
the ones that run on battery suck. Get a wired one e.g. from CompuCleaner
Anonymous No.106002074 >>106002117
>>106002043
There are reviews of hundreds of those things on youtube with practical tests, check it out before buying. It only makes sense if you need it for your job in my opinion.
>>106002062
Bro I completed it on GTX 1060, weird brag.
Anonymous No.106002116 >>106002146
https://www.displayninja.com/ktc-m27t6-review/ KTC won
Anonymous No.106002117 >>106002126
>>106002074
>Bro I completed it on GTX 1060, weird brag.
Did you complete it with 1440p 2X SSAA max settings locked at 180hz 90% of the time?
Anonymous No.106002126
>>106002117
Did you say this in your post? >>106002062
Anonymous No.106002146 >>106002182
>>106002116
The likes of KTC & AOC are disrupting the mainstream monitor market like Thermalright has done with CPU coolers.
Anonymous No.106002147 >>106002179
>>105993323 (OP)
>1440p: KTC H27T22, Gigabyte M27Q, ASUS XG27ACS, KTC M27T6 (miniLED)
So what makes these monitors so special for it to be around 200$ more expensive than one around 150$ that has the same res and refresh rate?
Anonymous No.106002179
>>106002147
Recommendations are based on US pricing & good product reviews, all of them are priced between $200~300.
Anonymous No.106002182 >>106002218
>>106002146
they're just buying panels from chink factories and repackaging them sometimes with terrible cost cutting
AOC loses sales simply from the monitors missing nice to have featureset

also the price really has to be 300 because at 400 people go "If I pay 25% more I get an oled, so why bother"
Anonymous No.106002216
$299 hdr 1400 4k mini led 240hz ips panels by next year
waitfags eating good
Anonymous No.106002218
>>106002182
Those two brands belong to the monitor factories; that's how they're able to undercut the competition.
Chinese companies make the best miniLED displays since Samsung Display sold off their LCD patents.
Anonymous No.106002232 >>106002449
>>106001548
> Everyone was waiting for that.
Only stupid people who believe in any meme they wish to be true. I got a 9950X3D and guess what, I don't miss the VCache on the other CCD and neither do any games or applications.
Anonymous No.106002238
LED monitors are worth the price increase honestly.
Anonymous No.106002245 >>106002272 >>106002277
>Like a decade since there's been a combination of both a competent radeon gpu + featureset/drivers existing at the same time
>Somehow still a minority who were conned into buying the 9070/xt
Anonymous No.106002272 >>106002386
>>106002245
Ampere lost to RDNA2
Anonymous No.106002277 >>106002300 >>106002386
>>106002245
>conned into buying the 9070/xt
It's a fine card if people don't need CUDA or other NVIDIA exclusive features.
The gap is only narrowing in terms of gaming GPUs.
Rumors of the Super cards getting more VRAM are proof of this; NVIDIA's trying to come up with other reasons to charge more for their GeForce cards.

RTX 60 and UNDA1/RDNA5 are going to be very interesting.
NVIDIA can't continue to sell smaller mainstream chips if they want their cards to perform better than Radeon's.
Anonymous No.106002300 >>106002322
>>106002277
>NVIDIA can't continue to sell smaller mainstream chips if they want their cards to perform better than Radeon's.
do they NEED to? I'm under impression they don't care about gaming anymore, it's evident in their decision to slash ram so AIshitters buy their professional cards or 5080-5090
Anonymous No.106002322 >>106002344
>>106002300
GeForce's market position was about being the better/premium video card.
That branding doesn't make sense if the performance can't back it up.
It's why NVIDIA's aggressively pushing MFG and other DLSS stuff to reviewers.
Anonymous No.106002344 >>106002425
>>106002322
you've missed the point: NVIDIA is AI hardware manufacturer now, not gaming hardware manufacturer
the latter is tiny compared to former in volume and profit
and they're doing great on that much larger market
Anonymous No.106002369
>>105997190
Yeah. With Zen3, you're mainly concerned about IF speed and getting as many ranks of RAM in each channel.
Anonymous No.106002371
/amdjeet/ should love this one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8oRj4wvomzs
Anonymous No.106002386 >>106002481 >>106002721
>>106002272
9070xt has a worse featureset than release Ampere. Transformer (performant on even Turing btw) rapes fsr4. Even raw performance wise a 3090 or tuned 3080ti vs 9070xt wouldn't be that insane of a comparison.
>>106002277
>NVIDIA exclusive features.
The nvidia exclusive features make things like 4k at a high refresh rate viable on even this gens midrange card though, that sounds like something everyone "needs"
Anonymous No.106002387 >>106002396
>>105999600
Because nVidia and CD Project Red turned it into a tech demo. It's still the most demanding game with path tracing on.
Anonymous No.106002396
>>106002387
>It's still the most demanding game
Silent Hill 2, certain scenarios in Oblivion.
Anonymous No.106002397
>>106000149
Blackwell has node issues.
Anonymous No.106002403
>>106000165
Crysis 1 Remaster is a waste of money. I got it literally $2 and felt ripped off compared to the original version.
Anonymous No.106002421
>>106000986
Why don't people just keep their Central ACβ„’ thermostats at the same temperature the entire year?
Anonymous No.106002425 >>106002598
>>106002344
You've missed the point.
Gaming/GeForce is a different business unit within NVIDIA.
These mainstream RTX cards can't justify the price premium since Radeon's been catching up on overall performance & features.
That's why the RTX 50 Super cards are rumored to get a VRAM capacity upgrade, they need to come up with other excuses to keep overcharging these cards.
Anonymous No.106002431
>>106002062
Is this a mod?
Anonymous No.106002449
>>106002232
You don't know what you miss don't for a second even pretend to think that you would not have gotten the 9950X3D with dual cache
Anonymous No.106002460
>>106001333
Just set the `amd_x3d_mode` to `frequency` and when playing games pin cores 0-7 and 16-23
Anonymous No.106002470
>>106002043
https://www.amazon.com/MetroVac-DataVac-Computer-Cleaner-Cleaning/dp/B0FDSV4JWZ/

I got something like this. But back in 2010 for $90. Best fucking investment ever.
Anonymous No.106002481 >>106002492
>>106002386
NVIDIA will always have the most performant gaming card because products like the 5090 can be specced out of a workstation-grade GPU.
AMD doesn't have the professional/enterprise market share nor the CUDA ecosystem to justify designing those expensive GPUs.
But the 9070 XT shows AMD can put up a fight in the rest of the gaming GPU market
We'll see how NVIDIA reacts to that with the RTX 60.
Anonymous No.106002492 >>106002506 >>106002511 >>106002516
>>106002481
What is ZLUDA
Anonymous No.106002501
>>105993392
I love my Gigabyte 5090.
Anonymous No.106002506
>>106002492
failed garbage
Anonymous No.106002511
>>106002492
Name all the enterprises that use it.
Anonymous No.106002516
>>106002492
ZLUDEEZ NUTS LAMO
Anonymous No.106002598 >>106002664
>>106002425
>Gaming/GeForce is a different business unit within NVIDIA.
And its success is largely irrelevant to NVIDIA as a whole. So why are you talking about it like it's important to them? it's not. Not anymore.
>That's why the RTX 50 Super cards are rumored to get a VRAM capacity upgrade, they need to come up with other excuses to keep overcharging these cards.
They cut VRAM because they want to separate consumer and AIshit cards with insurmountable enough gap. 5000 SUPER would cost near workstation NVIDIA cards.
Anonymous No.106002664 >>106002680
>>106002598
>So why are you talking about it like it's important to them?
Do you think NVIDIA's going to be okay with the mainstream UDNA/RDNA5 Radeon cards outperforming their GeForce equivalents?
The GeForce Super branding started to keep the 2070 series card ahead of the 5700XT, 2080 Super followed because the regular 2080 was performing too close to the 2070 Super.

Times have changed, but I don't think NVIDIA will just watch AMD take the mainstream gaming performance lead.
Anonymous No.106002680 >>106002708 >>106002804 >>106002826
>>106002664
>Do you think NVIDIA's going to be okay with the mainstream UDNA/RDNA5 Radeon cards outperforming their GeForce equivalents?
FFS yes why wouldn't they? They're selling tens of millions of workstation GPU while on consumer market it's in few millions volume. Do you not understand how much AI datacenters are being built?
Anonymous No.106002692
finally got my am5 system with 7800x3D up and working. my first time with AMD cpu. not looking to push limit of overclocking that mobo can allowed because summer and hot, but what are some good performance boost configs i can do in BIOS?
Anonymous No.106002701
CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 9600X 3.9 GHz 6-Core Processor ($207.00 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Grand Vision ARGB 69 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($127.69 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock B850M Pro-A WiFi Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard ($140.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: TEAMGROUP T-Force Delta RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory ($105.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: TEAMGROUP MP44L 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($105.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: PowerColor Hellhound OC Radeon RX 9060 XT 16 GB Video Card ($399.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Thermaltake The Tower 300 Matcha MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($105.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Thermaltake Toughpower GF A3 - TT Premium Edition 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($100.09 @ Amazon)
Case Fan: Thermaltake CT140 EX ARGB Sync 90.3 CFM 140 mm Fans 3-Pack ($74.98 @ Newegg Sellers)
Monitor: KTC H32S25E 32.0" 2560 x 1440 240 Hz Curved Monitor ($289.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1658.68

The stand is $35
Anonymous No.106002708
>>106002680
GeForce is still an important business for Jensen because it funded their AI business.
He talks about how GeForce enabled AI, and now the AI tech is improving GeForce.
I don't think NVIDIA's the kind of company where they're content with making second-best GPUs because they have a bigger breadwinner.
Anonymous No.106002717
>>105996785
>The x670e board I bought 4 months ago came with a Ryzen 9000 bios preloaded
How do you know that before installing it?
Anonymous No.106002721 >>106002804
>>106002386
>Transformer rapes fsr4.
https://youtu.be/JU8QI3wILho?feature=shared&t=484
Blatant fanboy lying, this comparison shows in real time gameplay there is barely any difference and both provide good image quality. DLSS 3 was a blurry piece of shit and FSR 4 and DLSS 4 are both much better.
Anonymous No.106002742
Next:
>>106002720
>>106002720
>>106002720
Anonymous No.106002778 >>106002804 >>106002877
>muh features muh features
I'm not using upscaling. I'm not using framegen. I'm not using gaytracing.
I just want an affordable GPU that runs my games natively with acceptable performance.
Anonymous No.106002795
>I like "native" TAA
>I like Blur
>I like 60fps

good luck
Anonymous No.106002804
>>106002680
I don't think Nvidias leadership is that shortsighted. They're not whatever niggers are at Radeon
>>106002721
Seethe
>>106002778
You're living in the past. Die so that the young may inherit the earth and pc gaming. Native rendering and raster are dead
Anonymous No.106002826
>>106002680
>FFS yes why wouldn't they?
This is your brain on Advanced Marketing Department. Entirely detached from reality and thinking this is some kind of comic book story on the very juvenile end of the spectrum.
Anonymous No.106002877
>>106002778
This is why I got a 9070xt. I would have gotten a 5070ti if it wasn't $200 more. The 5070 was out of the question because my 3060 already had 12gb in 2020. I still might return the 9070xt if the 5070tis has remotely acceptable pricing.
Anonymous No.106003155
>>105999944
zen 4 and 5 share the same memory controller
Anonymous No.106003159 >>106003173 >>106004354
Sub Β£300 graphics card? Trying to get the most bang for my buck.
Anonymous No.106003173
>>106003159
2080ti, maybe 3080 10gb if you're lucky
Anonymous No.106004354
>>106003159
Look at what's selling used in your area
There are exactly zero ~300 eurodollar cards worth buying