Thread 106086976

>Interviewing
Neetcode 150: https://neetcode.io/practice
Tips and interview practice: https://blog.interviewing.io/

>How to write a resume
https://stackoverflow.blog/2020/11/25/how-to-write-an-effective-developer-resume-advice-from-a-hiring-manager/

>Salary Stuff
"What's your expected salary?": https://www.fearlesssalarynegotiation.com/salary-expectations-interview-question/
Negotiation advice: https://github.com/petermekhaeil/salary-negotiating
Salary data: https://levels.fyi/

>Software Development & Programming
GitHub Trending - https://github.com/trending
DevDocs - https://devdocs.io/
JavaScript, CSS, HTML sandbox - https://jsfiddle.net/
MDN Web Docs - https://developer.mozilla.org/
Stack Overflow Blog - https://stackoverflow.blog/

>IT Operations & Infrastructure
AWS Service Health Dashboard - https://status.aws.amazon.com/
Cloudflare System Status - https://www.cloudflarestatus.com/
DownDetector - https://downdetector.com/
Microsoft Azure Status - https://status.azure.com/
Microsoft Office 365 Status - https://portal.office.com/servicestatus

>Unemployment Advice
Interview Prep - https://www.wikihow.com/Ask-Your-Parents-for-Money
Building a Resume - https://www.wikihow.com/Write-a-Manifesto
Salary Stuff - https://www.usa.gov/benefit-finder/disability
Emotional Support - https://lostallhope.com/suicide-methods/statistics-most-lethal-methods
People who will be joining us shortly - https://layoffs.fyi

>International Job Boards
LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/
Indeed - https://www.indeed.com/
Hiring Cafe - https://hiring.cafe/
YCombinator - https://www.workatastartup.com/companies
Wellfound - https://wellfound.com/jobs

>Anti-Pajeet Job Boards
USAJobs - https://www.usajobs.gov/
Clearancejobs - https://www.clearancejobs.com/

Previous: >>106066075

first

Don't get a job and become someone's stay at home housespouse. Do coding projects that interest you at your own pace, after the cleaning and cooking is done. Come up with a radical new idea since you're not under pressure, and sell it to a FAGMAN corpo for 8 figures.
>verification was not required

Finally, a normal thread without the kpop faggotry.

even uni has a job. why dont you?

>have Software Engineering degree from Western Governors University

How do I fix this?

>>106087229
Get a Masters degree in software engineering from Western Governors University, obviously

>>106087229
Skill issue honestly.

>Cousin-in-law has been at Microsoft for like 7 years and is now a manager
>Still hasn't referred me to any roles there
Granted this is clearly a bad time to try to get hired by them, but man... :(

>>106087589
Have you asked?

>>106086976 (OP)
9000 more troons

>>106087589
Have you tried raping his wife? You should qualify for an h1b visa job after that. If that's not enough, you can rape a cow and include the video with your application

>>106066266
how come you're in tech but unable to fix my printer and AC?

what's a cousin-in-law? the spouse of your cousin?

>What's a cousin-in-law?
No wonder why you're unemployed.

Bump your own thread faggots.

Oh what's that? programming was always a saturated meme industry and not actually worth 4+ years of college since 2013+12?

looks like /g/ was wrong again! :^)

You can just say yes or no instead of being a bitter faggot like an indian

>>106087144
>become someone's stay at home housespouse
Getting a girlfriend is even harder than getting an IT job, what the hell are you on about?

x

>"my new political party will focus on hiring the best of the world!"
Sure. "Best".
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1420048767361986562

What do ""IT"" guys actually DO? Everyone knows what devops, software engs, cybersec, even what SAP analysts do. But wtf why do we still have IT departments?

>>106090633
Plug computer into outlet, reinstall windows, fix account passwords for customers, punch CLI commands into networking equipment to make the internet work, fuck around on call manager so VOIP's work. Maintain server hardware and software so applications work.

Tons of shit but not alot of jobs for it either. We are the mechanics of the Tech world at the end of the day.

>>106090675
It's curious how the IT department is just a different form of maintenance at the end of the day.

>>106090724
Its expensive hardware however. Not everyone can or should touch the equipment/software. You spend alot of time learning how to do something before you are allowed to even do it alone. Its very easy to brick 20k$ switches and 50k$ routers.

>>106090724
Computers are known for not working correctly, big companies definitely need someone. I'm in a small (non-tech) company and my boss spent 1 hour on the phone fixing a printer issue today, so you can imagine how busy a tech department in a building with hundreds of employees is.

>>106090675
>We are the mechanics of the Tech world at the end of the day.
lmao

>>106090295
You are the girlfriend, anon. Find a guy with a good job to support you.

>>106090769
I'm not attractive enough to be a bottom, sadly.
If I were, I'd have no problems finding a girlfriend.

>get hired by my boss to work on a project
>he laid me off 2 months ago and said he would pay me for a few more months
>told me to find something in the meantime
>ask him a week ago if I could work till the end of the year since I cannot find a job even after extensive efforts
>didn't get a reply back
>didn't get paid for the month

I fucked up. I wonder how much longer he would've kept paying me if I kept my mouth shut. I always make stupid decisions which I only realise in hindsight.

Do you think AI has basically beat humans at coding things that fit in their effective context? (30k tokens or so)

Wdym getting and having a job means i have to give up on looking at memes and shitpost and i have to be mindful and alert of other people, my tasks, upcoming deadlines, and surroundings for at least 10 hours a day?

>>106091434
>I wonder how much longer he would've kept paying me if I kept my mouth shut.
He wouldn't've.

>>106090848
Are you decent at being a top, then? I can go either way

>commit was 6 years ago
>damn
>look inside
>2019

I'm the guy that had the first post in a few threads back about how I "blew" a FAANG coding assessment, but they actually called me back for a coding interview on next Monday.
While that is very nice, I don't feel very confident since I have no formal training on DSA and LeetCode and only do stuff based on vibes and feels, will be hard to describe to the interviewer what I'm doing.
Wish me luck.

>>106093246
>and only do stuff based on vibes and feels
they've wasted their time calling you back

>>106092754
Bold of you to assume I have any experience in having sex.

>>106093299
=(
But seriously, it's not like I have no idea what I'm doing, I just don't know the theory behind it all (I didn't graduate from a tech major, I learned all of this on my own).
I have been studying DSA to the best of my ability the last couple of days, though.

Just trying to get AWS certs from my now laid-off job's training site before I am officially let go but I know I'm still unemployable no matter how many years of experience I have or whatever certs I have.

>>106093516
I have a huge number of Microsoft Azure certifications but my degree is in biology and I only have IT work experience.
I just got fired too.

>>106093786
How does it feel when you get fired? Lots of ridicule?

>>106093456
damn, you should just kill yourself

Reposting from /twg/ because I know I'll end up here sooner or later.

I absolutely love slacking off, it is my favorite part of the job and I try to outdo myself every day.
This month my boss, ceo and manager and on vacation so I'm taking it to a whole new level.
I have rented a small cabin by the river in a near town and I haven't really done anything in over a week. I'm just "taking" courses and fixing small bugs that have been on standby for months having Copilot fix them and automatically merge the PRs.
I literally get hard not doing anything productive on company time.

898. Bitwise ORs of Subarrays

Given an integer array arr, return the number of distinct bitwise ORs of all the non-empty subarrays of arr.

The bitwise OR of a subarray is the bitwise OR of each integer in the subarray. The bitwise OR of a subarray of one integer is that integer.

A subarray is a contiguous non-empty sequence of elements within an array.

Example 1:

Input: arr = [0]
Output: 1
Explanation: There is only one possible result: 0.

Example 2:

Input: arr = [1,1,2]
Output: 3
Explanation: The possible subarrays are [1], [1], [2], [1, 1], [1, 2], [1, 1, 2].
These yield the results 1, 1, 2, 1, 3, 3.
There are 3 unique values, so the answer is 3.

Example 3:

Input: arr = [1,2,4]
Output: 6
Explanation: The possible results are 1, 2, 3, 4, 6, and 7.



Constraints:
1 <= arr.length <= 5 * 104
0 <= arr[i] <= 109

>>106093834
Like something bad happened and now you have to forget about your preconceived notions of the career you were a part of.

>>106093834
You lose pretty much all your friends and family members at once. Half of the people think that you should just have people chomping at the bit to nepotistically get you into a role, and thus there must be something wrong with you if you don't, and the other half think that employment is super easy and that you're just not trying hard enough/deserve a lower position than the one you just got laid off from.

>>106093953
you first my man

Reminder that it is your fault and your fault alone that you are unemployed and undesirable.

>>106093953
fuck off rajeet

If you're struggling with something as basic as understanding DSA, consider going into a different industry.

>>106087144
I did that with my girlboss phd girlfriend, I think the only reason she didn't despise me for that is because I'm the first boyfriend. the problem is you get into the "I'll do it tomorrow" apathy and you never actually do anything, you need some sort of schedule

I graduated last august and still dont have a job in tech. 90% of jobs I apply to I never hear back from. I got one technical interview a couple months ago but didnt get the job. Im losing hope.

>>106094626
Post your resume before complaining faggot.

>>106094626
Unironically do what >>106094654 says.
Just remove all personal info and replace function with generic names and descriptions.

>>106093319
Well hell, unlike the corpos, no experience is necessary for this position - just a willingness to learn and apply yourself

>>106094734
Then why have I encountered zero open positions despite searching for over ten years?
I gave up when I reached my thirties. I'm waiting for programmable android now.

>>106094761
There's an open position RIGHT HERE that you're apparently refusing to apply for
Do you need a sign on bonus too?

>>106094821
>Do you need a sign on bonus too?
Obviously. How many hugs are we talking about? Let's hear your initial offer.

>>106094842
You start out with an initial balance of 224 hugs, redeemable at any time. The amount of hugs available increases by 14 every week automatically, or you can earn hugs at the rate of 3 hugs per fugg. Hugs used during fuggs do not count against your available balance of hugs. If at any time your hug balance reaches zero, you are still entitled to headpats and being called a good boy on an as-requested basis until your hug balance is above zero

>>106094222
>>106093834
Oh yeah and if you smoke weed at all prepare to go cold turkey while you're applying just in case you get an interview and they drug test you.

Fuck me boys, they just called me and emailed the offer. Just signed that bitch. Feels good, man. Have to go back into office M-Th and wfh Fridays, but oh well. Took fucking 5 months, Jesus... Wishing you bros, the best desu. Finally off of Mr. bones wild ride.

>>106094597
I'm not struggling. I just never needed or cared about it

I have an interview tomorrow but I haven't prepared for it, I think I'm just gonna wing it.

>>106096711
Just reread the resume you handed them. The real thing that gets most people is the basics or recounting what you actually do/did for work prior to applying to them.

>>106096763
Thank you for the advice anon, I will do that.

lads, where can I find some CCNA test exams or even better, question dumps or packet tracer exercises?

I finished my original (non-tech) bachelor's in 2021 just in time for COVID to demolish all work, and now I'm about to finish my computer science degree into the worst hiring conditions the industry has ever seen.
I'm afraid that if I get a graduate degree the world may end.

>>106097069
get a graduate degree. the world needs to end.

Just graduated but assuming I can't find a job in 3 years, what's preventing me from making up 3 years of experience working for some company ?
I sincerely doubt HR will bother checking, especially if it is a large company.

>>106097174
most swe jobs won't even exist in 3 years. especially the entry level once.

>>106097223
https://www.pcgamer.com/software/ai/anthropic-tasked-an-ai-with-running-a-vending-machine-in-its-offices-and-it-not-only-sold-some-products-at-a-big-loss-but-it-invented-people-meetings-and-experienced-a-bizarre-identity-crisis/

>>106093456
If you passed the coding assessment you’re probably at least halfway decent at DSA, I think you need at least a month of prep to do well in a fagman coding interview tho unless you’re some genius

>>106097296
never said it will be running vending machines. it will take your swe job though.

From what I've read online
>prospective employers won't and don't care about "personal projects"
>only a handful of "big tech" companies even ask or care about DSA / leetcode
>only job experience and internships matter

What are you supposed to do if you don't have internships or job experience?

>>106090431
>of the world
Yeah that party is dead, jim. Literally party of indians

>>106097324
Get an internship. Work for free.

So my good friend's older sister just got hired at Meta as an engineering manager and has 1M total comp with stock grants, despite only having 5 years of work experience (and previously she wasn't even a manager, just an IC at Amazon).

Now, clearly she is very bright, but what fucking clown world are we in that someone can make 7 figures 5 years out of school and become a """manager""" with 0 management experience? What the fuck did I do wrong with my career.

>>106097399
Are you talking about a Pajeet (and are you one yourself?)

>be me
>tutorial hell
>cant focus on shit
>start writing my own graphical text editor from scratch
>implement everything from text rendering to the screen to drawing squares, panels, buttons
>handle input events, selection, copy, paste
>implement datastructures to hold state for undo/redo

surely that's enough to show that im not retarded in order to get a junior job no? i also have some more projects but not as impressive as a fully functional text editor

>>106097691
made a compiler with type inference and bytecode generation and got 0 calls

>>106097812
fuck....

you should have realized by now that is more important to know how to talk to people than writing a text editor or a compiler

>>106097935
fuck off transformer

>>106097935
but htey told me if i know how to arch rice + vim keybinds id make 800k starting............

I just landed a new gig a few weeks ago, $255k TC. My secret? No one on the team is Indian. It’s that simple.

>>106098074
What country?

>ask friend for a job recommendation
>he sends me a listing for a F500 company's "Cloud Architect" position, of which I am very underqualified for, as it requires AWS, Azure, Linux experience I don't have.
T-thanks

>>106098085
I'm making 255k at Accenture in Bangalore sir.

>>106098085
USA, fully remote too. The director is an absolute chad as well.

>>106098094
Just stop being a nigger retard who is too stupid to understand the Cloud?

>>106098121
Where the fuck am I supposed to learn AWS and Azure in less than a week?

>>106097485
I'm white, him and his sister are chinese

>>106098135
ngmi
just lie retard

>>106098135
That's the trick anon. You never really do. Just learn it on the job. Can you configure a firewall? Can you configure a firewall on someone else's machine? Congrats, you're a fucking cloud engineer.

>>106098135
Here you go, they have live labs in AWS/Azure https://www.pluralsight.com/cloud-guru

>>106098201
>>106098206
They're GONNA ask me questions about it in one of the rounds of interviews, even if I need to lie my ass off, having at least a basic understanding significantly helps with that.

>>106098215
Thanks.

>>106098135

It’s a big problem, especially now. There’s a boom on. I get harassing emails from recruiters every day. Everyone’s desperate to hire developers…but developers are not fungible. A great coder can easily be 50 times more productive than a mediocre one, while bad ones ultimately have negative productivity. Hiring one is a terrible mistake for any organization; for a startup, it can be a catastrophic company-killer. So how can it happen so often?

Like many of the hangovers that haunt modern software engineering, this is ultimately mostly Microsoft’s fault. Back when they were the evil empire where everyone secretly wanted to work, they were famous for their “brain-teaser” interview questions – Why are manhole covers round? – and, of course, they asked new university graduates about computer science theory; “Write me a binary search.”

Let me offer a humble proposal: don’t interview anyone who hasn’t accomplished anything. Ever. Certificates and degrees are not accomplishments; I mean real-world projects with real-world users. There is no excuse for software developers who don’t have a site, app, or service they can point to and say, “I did this, all by myself!” in a world where Google App Engine and Amazon Web Services have free service tiers, and it costs all of $25 to register as an Android developer and publish an app on the Android Market.

>>106098248
So tell them you don't know. Its really that simple.
>"I don't know, never had to use it, but they're all the same frameworks. What I am familiar with is x, y, and z, which relate in these ways. Overall, they're just different UI's and jargon for the same networking techniques."

>>106098323
Sorry anon, we've chosen not to move ahead with your application. Ranpreet said he is familiar with all those frameworks in addition to those you listed, and he offered to work for only 21k/yr (which because we hired a "Refugee" will be 78% subsidized by the government)

>interviewer told me I'm not getting the job because he didn't see me rotate an apple in my head
aphasia bros why are the links are all purple...

>>106098382
Jokes on you, I only work for companies that require American's only (aka: security).

>>106097399
You're talking about women. They can skyrocket into any role because they're good at talking or because people want women or female managers in their company.
It's not because they expect her to make money for the company or add value. She's a diversity hire.

>>106098698
>(aka: security)
GAH DOOD

>>106097324
>>106097392
How does an internship even help? I'm in an internship right now and by the time I graduate I will have been in the internship for 1.5 years. Nowhere has a job listing for any position requiring less than 2 years.

Holy shit I just had my first defense industry interview and it was so unbelievably easy it was insane. Hardest question was what is a pointer. Legit a hack for US citizens laid off from faang I was basically being begged to work there during the interview. CoastFire here I come. Literally only US citizens can go into the office. Defense is heaven.

>>106099850
How long did it take you to get anything back after you applied? I have 50ish applications out in the defense industry now and they're taking forever to say anything.

>>106099864
Pretty immediately like a couple of days. Its a smaller one but old school. I applied directly through their website and not through LinkedIn. My resume is stacked ngl not that it has helped me in ai startups mag 7 though.

>>106099891
Im in the too old for faang senior but never made faang staff in my late 30s hell and also startups think I am too old to code. Defense interview was very refreshing today for a staff position and I felt valued for once versus usually needing to deliver elite interview performance to get into faang as a swm american.

Title inflation is a real problem apparently “senior” means like 4-7 yoe.

>>106099891
>>106099915
I guess I'll keep on trying defense contractors then.
Congratulations btw.

>>106099850
You see, defense companies don't want to interview me because I got an eastern european last name and they're scared I'll leak or hack something I guess. Even though I'm a citizen.

>>106099850
I did an interview for the NSA last year and the first round of the interview was to record myself saying the answers to a bunch of behavioral questions that don't even matter. They never called me back after that.
I've never gotten anything else from the defense industry and I've applied everywhere.

>>106099850
hey tech man

can you tell me if rostelecom is a vpn or an isp?

asking for opsec reasons

https://files.catbox.moe/y3rhti.txt

>>106099183
If nothing else they (allegedly) show that someone's been vetted by a company.
Some places don't consider internships as work experience btw.

>>106099999
Fuck the glowies. if you did get an offer, they would've strung you along with a fake job offer until the hiring freeze, then kicked you to the curb.

>>106100025
Intelligence/defense seems like the only logical fallback for unemployed CS grads to get hired in if the private industry has been fucked with pajeet hiring.
I'm pretty sure the feds need/want all the CS nerds they can grab, but it doesn't seem like that is the case.

>>106100039
unemployed American CS grads***
Foreigners can and should go somewhere else.

>>106100047
Foreigners have their own defense companies. They might not kill as many kids as yours do but they do still kill kids.

>>106099183
Saw a posting on Plebbit which blatantly says to apply for jobs you are unqualified for because employers almost never actually realistically hire anyone that has all the years of experience on whatever tech stack they are working on. It makes sense, you can just learn on the job when they bite the bullet on you.

>>106100039
If you have the specific autism they need, they will hire you.

>>106087229
thought about getting a degree with them. are they really that bad?

>>106100264
How many years of experience required for a job is too many then for me with 1.5 years of experience? Should I be trying for jobs that say they want 5?

>don't go into tech the market is saturated

>what should I do instead

>crickets

Is the whole job market fucked or are people just saying this so I don't steal their comfy office job?

>>106100889
The whole job market is fucked.
>>what should I do instead
Electrical engineering is probably your least bad option for STEM work. You could always try business or finance if you still want an office job but don't have to keep it STEM.

>>106100938
Fuck man. I'm 25. Is it too late for that?

>>106100977
No lol never to late for a job switch. Most people get into different careers every 10-15 years anyways.

>>106101035
I just think computers are neat, and I'd really like to work with them.

I applied to a fortune 500 job that wants a 3.5 gpa but my gpa is a 3.3. Don't know if they'll request transcripts or it's just to screen honest midwits.

>>106100938
>Electrical engineering is probably your least bad option for STEM work
Non EE hands wrote this post

>>106098085
Japaneses' English pronunciation was already fucked as it is.
This is the death blow...
That said, with the new Sanseitou government, there is hope for this to be stopped.

>>106099183
>I will have been in the internship for 1.5 years
Nigga, what the fuck are you doing?
Internships are supposed to be for gaining enough experience to be hired by the company.
Never stay more than a few months in an internship. If they don't show any signs of actually hiring you, you're better off applying to somewhere else.

>>106095354
Congratulations anon

got the job offer bros, how am i gonna fuck this one up

>>106100889
>>what should I do instead
Stay home, play video games, program, trade.

Don't think about other people. It's not just that there's no place for you in society, there's no society to begin with. It's a bunch of lies.

>>106097691
>surely that's enough to show that im not retarded in order to get a junior job no?
I don't know if I'd hire you. I'd want to see
1) a solid understanding of enterprise application architecture
2) good communication skills
3) ability to collaborate in an agile-style team
4) technical skill in the technologies we actually use (unlikely to have overlap with what you used to build the editor)

>>106102184
Gonna get caught by IT bypassing network filtering to shitpost on here

>>106102244
How are you expecting a junior who never had a job to have worked in an agile team anon?

Truth is the more developers we get the more picky hirers are. They all want an exact match for the role, they want experience at companies they've heard of. As much as they talk about mentoring they don't believe in it. They don't believe anyone can learn on the job, they don't believe in knowledge being passed on, they don't even believe in advancement, they'd rather hire someone new than give an existing employee a raise. Maybe FAANG is an exception?

With offshoring and oversaturation it's hard to see how the tech doesn't become an absolute race to the bottom as time goes on. We should have a union, guild, professional association, or whatever ten or twenty years ago.

>>106102352
>How are you expecting a junior who never had a job to have worked in an agile team anon?
Not my problem.

Been totally beaten down by this job hunt, life not going anywhere, don't know what to do with myself. Years passing and I'm not progressing with anything just wasting my time. All I ever wanted was a decent job and to be able to move out of my parent's house.

>>106102428
But think of all the profit the company you're working for is making!
Also, moving out? Sorry, but luxuries like those are not sustainable.
Please think of the environment next time you decide to make a statement like that.

>>106098291
>There is no excuse for software developers who don’t have a site, app, or service they can point to and say, “I did this, all by myself!” in a world where Google App Engine and Amazon Web Services have free service tiers, and it costs all of $25 to register as an Android developer and publish an app on the Android Market.
you're an idiot. no actually good software developer is wasting his time publishing android apps with 10 downloads

>>106100938
tfw have an EE degree but don't remember shit. I also found it really hard and can't imagine just keeping all that shit in my memory for another 20-30 years.
it's much easier to become a frontend developer or something

>>106094609
im so tired of dating girls my age. They give you the world until they get super bitter that they dont get the commitment they want from you.

I just want to have fun with a milf that likes to fuck or a <= 20 girl I can daddy around

>>106098085
> JET
more like "JEET"

>>106102499
This is how I feel.
I have ideas that I want to build, but I also know firsthand how intensive, time-consuming, and expensive it is to actually launch a successful software product. And I'm not just wasting time writing calculator apps to pad my resume.

might just give up and LDAR
cant be fucking bothered with it anymore all my dreams are crushed anyways

>>106091441
It can do prototyping very well and quickly, but you shouldn't trust it with anything more than that.

>>106102795
Sounds boring

>>106102815
any other suggestions

>>106099850
I think this is because computer science people tend to be anti-war leftists and thus won't work with anything military and immigrants are not to be trusted.

>>106102827
Just do what you want while doing as little as possible
Programming is great because you can make anything out of nothing
Video games are also great because they allow you to forget your suffering for a moment
Work a shitty job for 24 hours a week while spending your free time on doing whatever
Aside from that there's always the army, I guess

>>106102795
>all my dreams are crushed anyways
qrd

executive summaries are a meme right? totally unnecessary?

>>106102795
what's LDAR? i only know lidar

>>106100889
how likeable and sociable are you?

Hey I'm doing some shitty online CS degree at oregon state while working a physical engineering type job. I know shit is bad now for CS grads, does anyone think it'll let up when the funds rate eventually gets lowered? Also how toast am I as a 30 y/o? Willing to work in the defense industry if that helps. I have no morals left.

>>106100889
from https://www.cnbc.com/2025/08/01/jobs-report-july-2025.html
>Job growth totaled a seasonally adjusted 73,000 for the month, above the June total of 14,000 but below even the meager Dow Jones estimate for a gain of 100,000, the Bureau of Labor Statistics reported Friday. June and May totals were revised sharply lower, down by a combined 258,000 from previously announced levels.
>At the same time, the unemployment rate rose to 4.2%, in line with the forecast.
>The June total came down from the previously stated 147,000, while the May count fell to just 19,000, revised down by 125,000.
they are lying about unemployment, and they don't have any shame about it

If AI technologists are getting $250 million hiring packages, why isn't everyone going into AI right now?

>>106104314
You need a PhD anon

>>106104373
Not for actually putting it to good use in end-user products to make money from.

>>106102244
>5) a firm handshake

>>106086976 (OP)
That's going to be a big mistake by Microsoft. Maybe even a fatal mistake. Those H1B workers are probably worthless.

>>106104492
I need you to rethink that comment over this image. Even i am surprised

>>106100889
Literally everything is fucked, my grandma is working some minimum wage shit retail job and even there they're shafting her
tech is just the worst industry right now

I've never done a phone interview before and i have one scheduled next week, what should i expect from it?

>>106104772
Expect to be rejected. You need to pay attention to what they asked and do better next time.

>>106086976 (OP)
I want to die Bros.

>>106104772
i should probably mention it's for a help desk role

>>106104835
they will ask what technologies you're familiar with, asking about DHCP / IP maybe DNS, and do some role playing for troubleshooting a task where you ask questions to get the relevant info

>Recruiter messages me
>Hi Anon, blah blah blah we're looking for a [my previous job title]
>Hi [Recruiter], that sounds cool. Is that based in [my current area that I enjoy living in]?
>No, it's in Saint Louis, MO
>mfw

>>106099850
I already have a TS/SCI, defense recruiters hit me up pretty much daily (though they're often like the above), but I haven't landed an interview in a month and a half (ironically the last one I had was for FAANG). I assumed my resume was dogshit, but I asked both ChatGPT and the recruiters, and they say it looks good. I don't know what the fuck I'm doing wrong.

>>106099999
whoa, nice digits

>>106100889
I hear trades are doing well, but I'd rather move back in with my parents than spend 50 hours a week breaking my body in the heat with felons and illegal immigrants lol

>>106104023
Right now CS is in free fall basically and the number of CS jobs is decreasing from the inflated number during COVID. That has to stop sometime but it probably won't be as good as during COVID again in our working lifetimes.
That said, if you have some kind of engineering experience and also CS skills you might still land some specialty job that requires both.

>>106105063
>I hear trades are doing well, but I'd rather move back in with my parents than spend 50 hours a week breaking my body in the heat with felons and illegal immigrants lol
A plumber with 5 yoe gets paid about as much as a junior does starting. On the other hand, plumbing jobs actually exist.

>>106104314
even ChatGPT 3.5 knows more about AI than the average CS graduate.

AI is basically advanced math, it's hard shit that filters most of the regular programmers and shit.

Before I got laid off, I was told by my staff engineer to learn how to set up an AI agent and learn how to run interference for it. I've set it up and I just don't know, man. How do you compete with this? How do I get a job with this? It literally makes apps in minutes with working unit tests and everything. I'm a monkey pressing the button on go for permissions.

I've never felt so redundant. I'm actually genuinely fucking depressed. I don't know how to get a job with the years of experience I've built up.

>>106105463
you can always do other things

well, bombed the interview because i was too entry level but they decided to interview me knowing that i was entry level.

>>106105463
The secret is to use AI to open your own 1 person company.

I also got laid off, and now I will use my knowledge to destroy these bloated corporations with shit they can't compete. Phase 1 of my plan is to provide great services for other companies for free, with premium features for a very small fee.

>>106105482
I was thinking cybersecurity but I have zero idea of how AI game is influencing it. I have time to figure out something, I guess.

Going back to school soon for a CS degree in about a year, I can't wait. By the time I am out I think the market should be better.

>>106105074
Well, I'll have 4 years experience in a saurian dying company called Intel. So probably better to invest in inventing a time machine to go back and do everything over.

>>106102213
Maybe I could look into trading. The line must always go up.
>>106103973
Not very. I can communicate just fine when it's something like business talk ("I need this done", "The current situation is X Y Z" etc.). But I'm not the best at just socializing like a normal person.

>>106090633
IT is fixing all the shit those other jobs don't want to deal with, it's almost all helpdesk garbage with sysadmin tasks rolled into it. You get stuck on the phone with karens that forget passwords while being expected to unfuck servers and other shit. MSPs rule IT and turned it into low pay hell.

>>106093834
Not that anon, but I got fired from an IT job a few months ago. I was actually happy because it was the worst job I ever had. The workplace was dystopian, including timed bathroom breaks and billable hours crap to fill out alongside an overwhelming pile of endless work. The customers were bitter, angry boomers.
I haven't found a job since, but I'm not really sure if I even want to do tech shit anymore. My last 2 tech jobs left me feeling more stressed than physical labor and didn't pay much better.

>>106097812
Isn't that the absolute basics ? What every CS student has to write for his compiler class ?

>>106107091
yes it's probably that. Nowadays to get your resume to a human you need at least an optimizing query engine project

how were you supposed to get an internship? don't you need resumes, cvs, job interviews and background checks for those as well? how is that any different from getting a first "real" job?
everyone that i knew that got an internship said they got it through their senior uni buddies or relatives

>>106107279
Yes, it's exactly like getting a job, just witha lwoer bar for entry and performance once you get there, because they know you don't actually know anything.

>>106107463
https://youtu.be/EAk8PjCsXQ8

>>106107091
Not from scratch, generally.
At least at my school we didn't have to build any of the low level stuff

>>106107091
>every CS student
>compiler class
Oddly enough, I never took one of those. Maybe that's why I'm in this thread.

>>106107590
Same but a real compiler is supposed to give you executable code that matches gcc, clang etc. It is obviously not an easy thing to do.

>>106107856
99% of employed programmers have never written a compiler from scratch.
I took an OS class where I wrote a very small operating system from scratch with a team, but it has never drawn any interest from employers.

>>106107949
>Why does my completely outdated, impractical, and useless computer science project not get any attention from companies looking for profitable workers?
I don't know dude maybe try applying to a compiler development company

>>106107856
I didn't but I took embedded and circuit classes instead

Just checked and there's not that many C compiler apps for Android. They tend to rack up a lot of downloads too.
It seems to me like an ideal project to put on a resume.

>>106108436
Do not insult our President with such memes.

bros I'm unironically going to sign up for LinkedIn Premium™. Is there any reason NOT to use the free month on Recruiter Lite? I'm not a recruiter, but this has all the same stuff as Career, plus the recruiter stuff, right? I really don't know, I could be wrong. But it's stupidly expensive so I'm like fuck it, it's free for a month before I switch to Career.

>>106109186
redeem the linkedin premium sirs

>>106100386
no, it's actually a pretty good idea if you are a self directed learner, just get the CS degree not the SWE degree, the CS degree is ABET accredited which matters, I've seen it on several job postings

...So do I show a repo full of projects I prompted off an AI agent to make? This feels like cheating.

>>106107856
Bro. I have five years in corporate and I never once wrote a compiler. You're fine. There was once upon a time where this was an essential foundation. Then it became all about knowledge of libraries and frameworks.

Now its us trying to figure out what the fuck the next step is.

>>106107463
While he's a fucking retard, we were always going to end up here. Weren't data centers being built under the last admin?

What's your most humiliating interview experience?

>>106091434
Beat the fuck out of him

Every jobs report is going to be lukewarm to good and revised down after the fact. Every single one.

Had a second tech screen interview where i solved the problem and the stupid ass follow up but still got rejected. I think im at my limit bros

>>106110821
I was in one that was going well technically, and then some young asian girl asked about my experience and thoughts on diversity & inclusion. I started rambling some bullshit about how my last company was very diverse and I didn't mind it, but I didn't work in HR so I don't know how they got it so diverse. Then I mentioned the company ran out of money anyway. I don't think they liked that answer.

>>106110821
a few years ago I had an interview with google (got to second rounds, they had 5 interviews scheduled in one day) and on the final "behavioral" interview it was a black guy that came in to ask me personal questions.
Eventually he asked me the bullshit diversity stuff ("How is diversity important to you?", "how does diversity help improve the workplace?", etc.) and I started stumbling and talking like a retard and my answers were terrible and he just stared at me.
Needless to say, I didn't get the job. I did good on the technical interviews, not great but good. I should've just lied and told them what they wanted to hear.

I still think about those interviews and where I would be if I did get the job, or if that was ever even possible. Maybe the recruiter was just pulling me along to meet some quota and never had any intention of hiring me (I had no degree but a few years of experience and a portfolio, plus I was employed at the time).

>>106105650
>By the time I am out I think the market should be better.
anon, I...

>>106087229
Shoulda got BSCS. Something nonstandard like Software Engineering is a red flag. Or go for a Masters at GT or UT

>>106111079
Oh and just to add to this, there's probably a good chance I've been blacklisted from the company. The recruiter told me to apply back in a year if I'm still interested, I've reapplied 3 times and every time I've been rejected in less than a day by their portal system. It will say "Not proceeding" on the status of your application if they've denied you.

>>106103949
Guys

I want to get into tech support and eventually work my way up into more specialized senior jobs like cloud service or cybersecurity.

I have no formal experience in the field. I have a 3 year diploma for advertising and marketing. I've done mostly sales and customer service. But I'm the average anon, I've built my own PC, modded games, learned hundreds of apps, dabbled in GitHub. I've diagnosed problems all the time.
I'm looking at the Google tech support certificate.

What is your advice for jumping into the industry, entry level for it support. I know it's a busy industry but I think I'm a good cultural fit.

>got job offer
>contract and everything

>now i have to be a functional human being, become actually competent, get awake before 11am, etc.

>>106111660
Get a masters degree in Information Systems, IT Management, Computer Science or Cybersecurity.

Or get A+, Net+, Sec+, CCNA

>>106111660
CompTIA trio, but really Net+ and Sec+. CCNA. Maybe get some AWS or Google Cloud or Azure certs. I'd recommend Azure because of government contracts and jobs that are less competitive, so you can get a foot in the door.

>>106111819
Microsoft has a bunch of certs but their cloud is the only thing worth a dam. Google certs? Who even cares about those? IBM has redhat linux which is great for alot of cloud/server side jobs. Everything else that they have is garbage however.

i'm tired, i did two interviews in a single day yesterday, plus several calls
this never ends

>>106111826
I mostly mentioned it because my company's DevOps guys started doing some stuff with GCP, which reminded me that it existed.

>>106111848
Well fuck it get cloud in either AWS, Azure, Google. Then get Redhat Linux. After that get VMware/Kubernetes/Docker certs/experience if they have that and finish it off with Security+/Server+. By that point you can handle any job for cloud/server admin.

You would also want to learn scripting on the side so python at the minium.

Got the talk that I am next in line on getting "fired". By Monday I will know the result, soon unemployed with a family to feed.

>>106111160
>Masters at GT or UT

UT like University of Texas and GT as in Georgia Institute of Technology?

>>106112070
nta but generally yes those are the two big name options. Downside to GT is that if you miss the enrollment window, you're set back even FURTHER and they want 3 letters of recommendation. For the current upcoming fall registration, you'd need to submit everything by last march. If you miss it...then you're submitting everything by this august I think to get in for the spring. UT is similar but I don't think they require letters of recommendation.
But maybe just being able to put it on your resume as expected graduation: whenever is good enough, idk. I'm about to finish a masters from a less prestigious university and I'm hoping for the best...

>>106112096
Why not go for a local state uni. My local one has online CS degree.

>>106112051
How fucked are you? Do you atleast have 6-18 months of savings?

If not learn to cope by being a cop.

>>106112119
that's essentially what I'm doing. I couldn't wait for GT's acceptance, especially since I missed a submission window + they limit how many classes you can take. Not as prestigious but at least I'll have the paper (soon).
But if you're worried about credentialism and a bigger name on your resume...GT or UT.

>>106112236
MIT has online classes but zero online degrees last i checked so

Stanford
https://online.stanford.edu/programs/computer-science-ms-degree

>>106112170
>Do you atleast have 6-18 months of savings?
Probably 3 years with minimum spending. I reckon it will be less than that due to inflation so 2 years will be more realistic.
>How fucked are you?
I am in deep shit despite being prepared for it. The signs were there since end of last year (all my responsibilities being taken away, decisions being made behind my back, ignored in team discussions etc.), just official the last couple of days. I will try begging of course but yeah, the chances are extremely low. At least I tried.

>>106112332
Well better off than most people. Be sure to hit up the food bank its really meant for families in your situation so no need to not get what you need.

Any other career switches from what you got? I know retail manager is an often easy fall back to gain management experience. Even i am considering that for management experience.

>>106112346
If being a senior developer or higher is not feasible, lecturer will be my backup plan. I do have management experience albeit limited but they tend to require travel and weekend commitments among other bullshit you have to deal with ad hoc. As I have to take care of my parents (totally dependent), not entirely on board with this idea.

However yeah thanks for the idea. Good to have multiple backup plans. We will see. By Monday, I will get my answer.

>>106111819
>>106111789
>>106111826
Does it matter where I get these certs? Udemy looks affordable. If I was to pay the full cost of these I may as well go to my local community college

what job can you get with an associates degree?

>>106112453
prostitution

>>106097324
Sounds fake and gay considering everyone and their moms ask for leetcode

>>106097399
women get a considerable leg-up in any STEM hiring.

What the hell are you supposed to do when you could solve the leetcode problem in 60 minutes but they still reject you? Surprisingly, interviewers of my own fucking race reject me more than jeet interviewers. What's up with any race that's not a jeet sabotaging each other?

>>106112754
only if they're hot and/or good at socializing

>>106112453
You can get into IT with an associate's allegedly.
Some trades are also an associate's degree. I remember looking into HVAC once and supposedly it's one that works that way.

>>106113109
>You can get into IT with an associate's allegedly.
how

>>106113241
Last time I looked at IT help desk jobs, which wasn't recently, a lot of the listings required only an associate's degree. You have to understand you'll be making like $40,000 at most, though.

>completed 4 rounds of interviews for a 50k job
>absolutely destroyed mentally from interview anxiety
>get offered the job
>decline because I’m now suicidal and no longer have confidence in anything
>Immediately schedule appointment to see a psychiatrist to get back on meds and start therapy as well
Holy fuck I never want to go through experience this again. I will gladly take the Costco wagie job/career and max out at 60k. I will never be able to relate to well-adjusted anons.

>>106110821
all of them

>>106099850
Feel like defense jobs are typically either in the middle of nowhere or the DC area

But goated if true

Was this role ft or intern / contract? I've had easy, minimally technical interviews for internships before (and still failed them)


Do they hire autists? All US military branches I know don't, unless you can hide it effectively (I doubt I can).

>>106113277
Is IT a good copout if ur a cs major and can't leetcode shit

>>106097324
This cuts both ways, too. Anything you learn to be useful to Big Corporate will be utterly mostly useless to yourself. As in no way in hell are you going to automate the shit out of your personal projects with kubernetes, helm, prometheus monitoring, ELK logging and whatnot. Most of their shit is ridiculously overengineered.

>>106102244
In other words, you prefer a shabbos goy with his head stuck up your ass over a competent programmer. And that right there is why it's soooooo haaaaard to find good help, Shlomo. And now that I've insulted you, let's pick apart your points:

1) None of the poos stuck up your ass have that. They do make sure to mention all the right technology name buzzwords, though.
2) I did time in Big Corporate. Most of the mouth breathers on staff can't type out a complete sentence in their mother tongue.
3) Collaborating in an agile-style team is piss-easy. Just be a jeet and have a poor quality headset. Every morning you make a bunch of lies on why you're still not finished and mumble them into your headset in poor english while eating breakfast during standup. Nobody will ask probing questions, ever because that's racist.
4) Yeah, somebody who wrote an entire editor can't possible handle shell scripts and YAML (possibly even JSON) which is what 95% of your "technologies" consist of. The rest is Python which isn't exactly hard either.

>>106086976 (OP)
I have a choice between IT and CS at my online college. Which one would be more practical for entering the job market? I already have an AAS in electronics tech but recent spending cuts are putting my job security at risk. With a BS STEM degree I also have options of working a civilian job with the military or enlisting as an officer. Time and money are working against me. Thoughts?

>>106115745 (Me)
Cybersecurity is another option.

>>106115745
If you can find a job (big if), CS will earn you a hell of a lot more if you find an IT job (also a big if).
Cybersecurity will require you to keep up-to-date with the latest security news 24/7, even outside your working hours.
Military is great for personal development and saving up money, but you won't be able to fit into normal society afterwards.

>>106112431
You are talking about training. You can get most training for free or cheap. The certs are from the same company and normally test out through pearson vue either online or at a testing center.

Your CC might be better if they have a lab but are 10x the expense compared to Udemy, Boson, Jeremys IT lab/ Professor messer or books.

>>106115950
I was consulting chatgpt. It told me about the course, but it also mentioned a portfolio of projects. Is that even relevant?

>>106116210
God dam gpt. Projects that it's referring to is either going to be programming full stack like hosting/building a website on a PC or some amazon server for experience. For IT if you want experience you can do homelabs with VM/Virtual box, build a PC, fuck around with GNS3 for virtual networking and a myriad of other shit to go so far as setting up a minecraft server.

Programming requires more of it but entry IT it benefits greatly to have something on there that you fucked around with in the resume. For IT engineering you need more homelab experience to get further and generally you need it for higher end certs.

>Had an interview yesterday doing IT work for a weed company
>Think the interview will be kinda chill given the nature of the company
>Get in to the interview it is the exact opposite and the guy talked for like 15-20 minutes about all the shit they need at a company that sells weed
>I kept thinking I could be working at Aldi for not much less pay and about 1000% less of the bullshit
>Guy I interviewed with was arguably the most tech literate person I have talked to in an interview and saw through my bullshit 'job' I made up on my resume to cover up my last 5 years of neetdom within like 2-3 questions and grilling me
>Logged off from the interview in shame
>Had a dinner night with my Mom and brother + his fiancee
>Had to explain how and why I am such a fuckup
I regret going to college so much, I just want it all to end. I am not even worth the hole in the ground they'll throw me into after I am gone. I want to be forgotten.

>>106116425
At this point join the military go space force or some shit.

>>106116454
this just become a space shuttle door gunner

>>106116454
anyone who mentions space force is memeing but unironically if you do have a degree, you can go officer in some do-nothing stateside job and collect a respectable middle class wage

main problem is dealing with retarded enlisted and resisting the urge to lease a dodge charger after your first paycheck (the stuff they put in the food to reduce your libido and make you poop more consistently is all expired and now just makes you make poor financial decisions)

>>106116425
weed companies are notoriously badly managed because the "field" is so small so most of the companies are small and incompetent, and pot dealers have never been known for being smart, business savvy, reasonable in negotiations, showing up on time, or being able to handle the presence of titans

For those without degrees you can go work as a government employee after the scholarship/degree is over for 1:1 service mostly free college with internships mixed in for extra training. Atleast its not railroading you into the military neither is it railroading you to only be a high schooler to apply.

https://www.smartscholarship.org/smart/en
https://www.cisa.gov/scholarship-service-sfs-faqs

>>106115313
>Is IT a good copout if ur a cs major and can't leetcode shit
It's possible you could get an IT job with a CS degree, but IT is a different field. They'll expect you to organize networks, image computers, and that kind of thing.

>>106116549
Can a CS grad not do those things?

>>106116570
Mostly no but CS grads always wash out to IT if they cant hack it in programming

>>106116454
>>106116499
I have two medical issues that prevent me from joining the military. Getting the piece of toilet paper with an IT degree printed on it was meant to be my solution. Plus I am 33 (going to be 34) and am hitting the age limit for most branches to join.

>>106116454
>>106116499
Space Force positions are comfortably filled every single year. It is extremely competitive. You can however apply for a job at many of the USSF's contractors, provided you can pass a TS. The job stability isn't that great unless you're at a prime tho.

>>106116815
Why not just join the coast guard or something? why do you all meme out about le spess force?

>>106116297
Thank you, you beautiful man

Is it true I can get a basic tech support job with just a A+ cert, a portfolio, and a few other certs to pass the resume.

>>106117285
yes, back in the 2000s and very briefly during 2021/2022

>>106117333
Well I'm still going to switch into this career. It's better than fucking marketing. My entire industry has been genocided by Ai.

>>106117355
it's marketing. no one cares. just make the slop bro

>>106116425
Time to become someone's boywife

>>106117410
Anything less than 5 years of experience is gone. It's a low paying field that creates no value. Even a beginner tech support Jeet makes more than a senior copywriter

>>106117445
>Anything less than 5 years of experience is gone
Make that 7.

My resume is a mess. Huge 2+ year career gap after college (which I took 6 years to complete instead of 4). Then a 3 month webdev internship in a startup and 1 year of full time webdev working on a project which never got finished let alone released before getting laid off. I have literally nothing to show for and I'm already 27. I barely know how to code.

>>106117464
just join the merchant marine BRO

>>106116499
>the stuff they put in the food to reduce your libido
wait what

>>106118558
potassium bromide

most of you are just lazy retards who don't deserve a job but here's a tip:
>join federal law enforcement agency like FBI/DEA/CBP etc
>get a security clearance
>do LEO shit for a couple of years
>transfer to an IT role or intelligence or w/e you want
you're set for life after this. you don't even have to join the military and die for israel

>>106118900
>>join federal law enforcement agency like FBI/DEA/CBP etc
Please refer to the title of this thread

>>106118900
yes. Just join the FBI. very easy, everybody does it

>>106118900
>working for ANY government
That's only for suicidal people.
The global uniparty will suck you dry and dump you at the next-best opportunity after you have helped them to make your country a worse place.
Also, at least in my country, the pay is total ass and the technical infrastructure on the government side of things is a fucking nightmare.

>>106119416
m8 what are you smoking government work has the best job security on the planet. people just hate it because it's janky and low paid, not because they "suck you dry and dump you"

>>106117464
I am this >>106116425 anon.
>33 soon to be 34
>Graduated in December 2019, been unemployed since
>Took 8 years to get my degree (went 1/2 time and was working a wagie job to support myself)
>Have not kept up on what I learned which honestly wasn't all that good to begin with
>Now trying to cover up my work gap by saying I have been working for my Dad's company (he knows and even suggested the idea to me to help me)
>IT guy working for a cannabis company saw through my work experience with 2 questions and I logged off in shame
>>106117416
33, nobody wants that shit even though I still look okay. Talking to a guy now, him and I seem to be hitting it off well. But I have a feeling he is going to tire of me being a NEET fairly fast. +it is a long distance relationship even if we do get serious.

>>106119380
being hard is what makes it worth it. good luck competing with stankpreet and shaniqua who have the exact same degrees and certs as you

>>106119638
>being hard is what makes it worth it.
it's also hard to pull your dick off with your bare hands, maybe try that

>>106119645
>it's also hard to pull your dick off with your bare hands
>t. twink

>>106111160
>Software Engineering
im about to do this but im in a brtibong uni
am i cooked?
i figured itd open my horzons a bit more than a standard CS course, and that itd be nice to dick around with embedded for a change, so im learning new stuff

>>106097691
it should be but most hiring managers are retarded and literally are unable to inspect a github project let alone read your resume

>>106094626
This is the norm, sorry to say.

>>106086976 (OP)
designated

>>106110821
> Out of college
> Year of applying to companies, only handful of interviews but no job
> At my wits end
> Go to some local tech event to hear some speech
> Google recruiter is there, e-mail them and apply
> Get a response, go for the 5 interviews
> Did well in some, no so much in others
> Finally hear back
> "you didn't get the job but it was such a close decision, they want to give you another chance"
> Have to go again for a round of interviews but this time it's only 3
> Do well in the first one, second one not so much
> Start my third one, I'm doing good. Realize the solution is a recursive one
> Brain just goes blank, can't write any code
> interviews is only halfway done
> longest 20 minutes of my life as the interviewer awkwardly tries to help me and my mind is blank
> Interview finally over
> "So anon, do you have any questions?"
> Felt so defeated, basically ask what I can do to get a job anywhere
> He's caught off-guard, says some shit unrelated to my question

He probably smelled the desperation off of me and just said some shit to get me off the campus as quick as possible. I eventually found a job through sheer luck.

>>106086976 (OP)
If it's true that AI is going to replace so many people why are they allowing so much mass immigration still?

>>106120476
Because only immigrants are more productive than AI

>>106091441
No, it has a high rate of errors even within their limited context. If fixing those errors take longer than writing the actual code yourself, then it's not feasible.

>>106087229
go back. Learn to be a plumbers.

Is it a good idea/okay to decline a job offer if you’re extremely depressed and anxious? It just so happens that a lot bad things have happened in my life these past couple weeks and it’s the first job I’ve received multiple interviews for in years.
Why oh why is all this shit happening now when I’m finally given a chance?

>>106120676
Power through it, retard.
Refusing will just make you even more depressed.

>>106119539
Incapable people simply rot away in the public apparatus, living their best life.
For capable people, it's a living hell. I doubt, that differs all too much between countries.

>>106120688
I’m terrified my mental health won’t get better and I’ll eventually have to quit/get fired. I can’t fake it to make it, it’s really bad. At this point I hope I don’t get the job.

>>106120737
just start doing drugs bro

>>106120737
Anon, stop bitching like an emotional woman and start looking at this objectively:
Worst case scenario: you get fired after a month of two and you get paid for your months of service.
Best case scenario: you keep your job and your mental health improves.
There's literally nothing to lose by taking the fucking job. And always remember: "this, too, shall pass".

>>106120750
I need to get back on an antidepressant immediately.

>>106116776
The medical issues is a major limiting factor but most military branches accept people up to 39. Officer however is preference to fresh out of college/rotc/academy age kids so preference is below the age of 23 unless you want to be a pilot

>>106120772
>Worst case scenario: you get fired after a month of two and you get paid for your months of service.
I’d rather not even put myself in such a position where this could happen.
I just don’t think it’s worth the 50k salary anyway. 4 rounds of interviews for this shit?

>>106120772
what if his manager rapes him and he gets GRIDS

>>106120929
Oh, you were just making all of this up.
Your trolling needs some work: try less emotional appeal and more passive aggression.

>>106120940
I’m not making it up? What makes you think that?

>>106120943
It's pretty blatant.

>>106120952
How? I’m literally not making it up. I honestly came here for advice.

i just sneezed so hard my shoulder hurts

>>106120476
Uber, bolt and wolt food delivery

>>106120952
So I just want to confirm it’s not worth it then?

>>106120958
>>106121204
Good luck out there!

>>106120476
AI is just support, not a replacement.
Local workers are even less productive than AI.

>>106121212
unironically i know a guy in the circus and he literally went to clown college for it. it cost him several tens of thousands of dollars and last I heard of him he actually makes fucking bank. but more because he's not a clown but more like a cirque de soleil type performer who does backflips up silk sheets and shit

>>106121341
>clown college is a better ROI than computer science bachelors

>>106121601
his core strength is incredible thoughbeit

>>106110821
I had a Help Desk interview for a hospital where the guy kept reminding me that he was a Lt. in the Army, went on about how im gonna see people die and do drugs in their rooms, how this isn't a job for the weak, and how I would be needing to drive all own the town in my personal vehicle picking up laptops from all the remote clinics in a ±100 radius of the main hospital. Also he reminded me throughout the interview that the pay is $15/hr and I wouldn't get benefits or PTO for an entire year.

He also laughed at me whenever I asked him technical questions about the job and refused to believe I have any IT Knowledge (Even though I have a Bachelors, work experience doing everything he's asking in IT Support, and like six of those useless comptia certs). He gave me hell for mixing up 1.1.1.1 for google's DNS server instead of cloudflare's DNS server.

The worst part is when he asked me to explain any systems administration I've done. I pointed to my homelab and showed him a quick glance of my proxmox dashboard running on a r630 I have in my room and he just started laughing about how that's not real IT experience and bet I read manuals on how to do everything.

Dude was giving off weird fucking vibes. I honestly should have brought my conceal carry with me because he was less like an IT Help Desk Manager and more like a lunatic. Guy genuinely seemed like the type to attack someone unprovoked.

I'm still unemployed btw.

>>106110821
>>106121754

I also got denied from working IT Support for the local cops because the employment agency they go through said because I didn't have the A+ Certification I was automatically disqualified and that it was a mandatory certification to have to work there. When I asked why I needed the A+ when I had the Net+ and Sec+ certs they just ghosted me.

>>106091434
My cousin got fired asking for a recommendation

>>106105463
What's a Ai agent?

>>106111079
What do you say to that?

>>106120773
You need to be raped

>>106119604
Good luck anon, hope you get that guy

will getting a bf help me get a job?

>>106119604
>saw through my work experience with 2 questions and I logged off in shame
how did know?