Thread 106193933

OpenAI ChatGPT-5 edition

>Interviewing
Neetcode 150: https://neetcode.io/practice
Tips and interview practice: https://blog.interviewing.io/

>How to write a resume
https://stackoverflow.blog/2020/11/25/how-to-write-an-effective-developer-resume-advice-from-a-hiring-manager/

>Salary Stuff
"What's your expected salary?": https://www.fearlesssalarynegotiation.com/salary-expectations-interview-question/
Negotiation advice: https://github.com/petermekhaeil/salary-negotiating
Salary data: https://levels.fyi/

>Software Development & Programming
GitHub Trending - https://github.com/trending
DevDocs - https://devdocs.io/
JavaScript, CSS, HTML sandbox - https://jsfiddle.net/
MDN Web Docs - https://developer.mozilla.org/
Stack Overflow Blog - https://stackoverflow.blog/

>IT Operations & Infrastructure
AWS Service Health Dashboard - https://status.aws.amazon.com/
Cloudflare System Status - https://www.cloudflarestatus.com/
DownDetector - https://downdetector.com/
Microsoft Azure Status - https://status.azure.com/
Microsoft Office 365 Status - https://portal.office.com/servicestatus

>Unemployment Advice
Interview Prep - https://www.wikihow.com/Ask-Your-Parents-for-Money
Building a Resume - https://www.wikihow.com/Write-a-Manifesto
Salary Stuff - https://www.usa.gov/benefit-finder/disability
Emotional Support - https://lostallhope.com/suicide-methods/statistics-most-lethal-methods
People who will be joining us shortly - https://layoffs.fyi

>International Job Boards
LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/
Indeed - https://www.indeed.com/
Hiring Cafe - https://hiring.cafe/
YCombinator - https://www.workatastartup.com/companies
Wellfound - https://wellfound.com/jobs

>Anti-Pajeet Job Boards
USAJobs - https://www.usajobs.gov/
Clearancejobs - https://www.clearancejobs.com/

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>>106193933 (OP)
Worried I'll be unemployable soon due to the adoption of AI platforms. Yeah, yeah, I know, but there have been developments this week at my job that makes it seem like quality is last place and speed is what they want. Been too long since I did development, became a technical analyst, then architect, took a new role as manager, now director. If the stupid bitches in HR and Marketing can just talk to the bot to vibe code something and then Ranjeet can deploy the zip file to prod, I feel like my department is fucked. Now I'm considering a total career change, I don't wanna fight with the AI bot for the next 30 years...

>>106194139
>now director
just do a 10% workforce reduction and force your employees to use cursor, exactly like any other exec these days

>>106194173
We already did that at the beginning of the year. They used copilot, now cursor and all kinds of other shit.

Why do people say that IT isn't "tech work" when it's the only thing not being replaced by AI?

>>106194139
>>106194220
you're an accountability sink, i.e. someone that the owner can scream at when shit hits the fan
he's not going to scream to a lowly HR roastie or a jeet half way across the world

>>106193933 (OP)
Can you really call anything a "flagship model" when it's literally the only product your company makes?

any chile anons here? how fucked are you?

>>106194268
fuck man now i have to decide if i really wanna be the clanker wrangler for the rest of my life

I got fired because of trumps tariffs on my country's company.

>>106194344
just move to canada? le elbows up lol

>>106194371
Canada has lower wages than my country

i applied for a goverment tender

making a HR program worth 2 million dollars for some local county

i got chat gpt to make the whole thing
whats the chance i win and if i win is this illegal and can i get sued if my product is bad?

>>106194389
>Canada has wages
Proofs?

Got an offer for 690k, should I turn it down? Isn't that too low to live on?

>>106194394
>government tender
>HR program
anon you would be sued if the product is good.

if you are a software dev why arent you starting your own company instead of working for someone else?

Bonger here. I graduated from university with a First-Class Honours BSc in CompSci a few months ago. I've so thouroughly blackpilled myself on the state of the tech labour market through online tech ragebait slop content consumption over the last few years that I've been living as a hikiNEET recluse ever since.

Throughout uni, I skipped every lecture (just read the slides online), would only show up for group project-related things (where I invariably ended up doing everything myself anyway), and I always made an effort to actually learn the concepts that were being taught and didn't just LLM-slop my way through every assignment.

I didn't make any connections or network in any way while I was there. I'm autistic and very retarded when it come to that sort of thing. I also didn't engage in any form of extracurricular activity, and have nothing to pad out a resume.

Despite the First-Class Honours, I don't feel even remotely qualified to work with serious industry-grade software systems. Every attempt I've ever made at a serious (non-toy) personal project has failed due to hitting some wall where I can't conceptualize how a serious industry-level product would solve a complex problem. I struggle with most LeetCode Mediums.

Is it over for me? I don't expect FAANG or high salaries or anything, I just want a job that doesn't make me want to kill myself that also pays enough to sustain a moderately frugal lifestyle (never owning a house or car, never going out to eat, pirating all of my entertainment media, etc.) with some meager savings leftover.

Is it still possible for non-savant autists to get their foot in the door, or do you have to be a LinkedIn socialite?

>>106194693
>I struggle with most LeetCode Mediums.
it's indeed over for you

>>106194693
Way things look today, only savant autists survive. Sorry mate. Re-roll life or whatever. Alternatively: you could overdose on some mythical drug too in hopes of artificially inducing autism. 'Biohacking', I think it's called. Plenty people are deliberately physically distorting their brains these days to keep up, from willingly giving themselves brain traumas to inexplicable diets. Being average doesn't cut it. Adapt or die.
Autism rates are soaring because autism is what's being selected as the newest means to survive.

>>106194693
dont feel bad i got a cybersec degree cheated 90% of all my exams i dont know jack shit

>>106194139
who the hell is a director, a manager of managers?

>>106194793
director is like being an executive/c-suite but you don't actually own anything

>>106194805
Yeah when the shit rolls downhill, it his middle management first. My job is to filter it down to the workers in the nicest terms possible while ensuring they get things done.

looks like im not getting the job at that defence company

>was very good in HS
>was already tech savvy, learned low level stuff there in the IT specialty of my degree (boolean algebra, de morgan laws), programmed microcontrollers with visual algorithms before i even knew what python was
>graduate with very good grades
>go to uni
>depression hits me like a train
>drop out
>webdev friend recommands me going this way (it's the late 2010s webdev hype) (i'll burn out of that out of boredom)
>try a fast online webdev course
>shitty wordpress (i hate wordpress)
>it's a meme certification
>go full self learning path but lacks the motivation or inspiration to do any meaningful projects, dabbles in many prog languages here and there
>make a react web app at some point
>unemployment office recommands an internship to get professional experience in the field and a foot in the door
>they help me find a company
>it's fucking wordpress again
>none of them even know how to program
>get bored and they don't hire as expected afterwards
>at least they all say i'm very good at IT and should have no prob finding a job
>actually never managed to land a job before or after despite prob 1000s of applications for only 3 interviews
>another friend just say i should go for an apprenticeship to get a degree higher than HS to reassure employers
>why should i waste more years of my life learning stuff I ALREADY KNOW when there are people with that degree that don't get jobs anyway
>now after C, start going into COBOL
>barely knows what to even make for my portfolio
>now in my late 20s with a barely recovering mental health, resume is a fucking emmental, still no substantial uni degree or equivalent, have to somehow convince employers that everything i know is not a massive lie

Show i just do two projects (C and COBOL) and apply in two related positions, or should i just bite the apprenticeship bullet and spend two more years in study of stuff i already know with the copium that the degree will actually help?

>>106194901
no, learn a trade

>>106194901
>>was very good in HS
if you care about this you are a failed normie and should go back to r9k

>>106194901
I think things are moving too fast to study now and you should go with what you know and use a bit to fill in the rest. I haven’t tried Wordpress but react has been easy with replit and builder as long as you can do the devops or Google your way through it. C and COBOL might be more stable.

>>106194952
Bot, not bit

I inspect buildings for a living. Literally no way to take my job.

>>106195005
I’m inventing a building inspector drone right now!

powershell

>>106194914
ironically sunk cost fallacy might be the biggest thing preventing me from changing careers

>>106194933
i actually meant by this "I was very good in IT by HS", i'm tired

>>106194952
Well, what i read and hear from how it is for degree holders with the disconnection with actual job needs i definitely don't want to waste time for basically nothing but an increasingly worthless degree.

>I haven’t tried Wordpress

And it's a good thing, it's a terrible CMS, bloated, glitchy, full of security issues and it's unbelievably boring to use. I would recommand using the good old HTML/CSS, ect. way every time. I ditched webdev not only for how bloated it is anyway but also because i never had any passion to it and just gave too much credit to what i was being advised on it. My knack for C comes from me starting low level first and the algorithm programming software i used back in my HS projects was C based. COBOL is just because antique autistic curiosity aside, i have the hopium (or copium, i don't even know which at this point) this one might be my best bet to actually land since they have a shortage of young programmers.

>>106195080
Oh no I know the challenges with Wordpress I was only making a point that it might be worthy looking in to if bots can help code for it yet.

>>106195080
>how bloated it is

how bloated it's job market is*

>>106195136
I never really had any issues with coding in react desu, i think my main issue is overall being terrible at reaching out to companies effectively and marketing my skills to convince them. When i see people who know far less and work cushy jobs (nepotism idk), i see no reasons i shouldn't too

>>106195225
Get over it and humble yourself. You’re not owed anything friend. There’s 2 ways to a cushy job, know someone who will get it for you, or earn it through expertise demonstrated over time.

>>106194489
690k swedish crowns a year? That's enough to live on.
690k rupees a month? That's upper class in India.

>>106194261
IT is to software development what plumbers are to architects

>>106195806
True, neither can be unemployed

>>106194693
You're 21 years old, you don't need to be qualified you're just supposed to apply and get something with confidence.
I can sense you're british

>>106193933 (OP)
checked


>>106193696
>>blackhatworld.com
>it's probably easier to just get a job than be successful at whatever
I mean, they build shady websites and apply shady techniques to attract users and stuff
if you think that shit is difficult... then no wonder you are unemployed. please tell me, what the fuck are you doing here?

>>106194299
me, but I'm employed and not a dev.
there is a big facebook group for devs. my suggest is to join it and ask for help there. good luck, anon.

>>106194693
anon, you could network your way into a job through the internet (not here, though). find groups, chatrooms, whatever, join them, show off your work (if you have any), befriend people, go to meetups, conferences, whatever, and talk to people

>>106194763
>cybersex degree
well, why aren't you having cybersex right now?

>>106194901
>apprenticeship to get a degree higher than HS to reassure employers
>>why should i waste more years of my life learning stuff I ALREADY KNOW
get some (cheap) certs instead. also, do stuff on the site. idk, anything. like, make your own web interface for some shitty local LLM and cry to your users you are unemployed and need money/a job.

>>106194693
The UK is not so bad as Canada. I'm moving there once I'm done with school, since I got dual citizenship. It you think the UK is bad try it here where it's 1000+ applications for any job within an hour, no jobs are over $25/hr, and most of the jobs are fake anyway. At the very minimum the UK has a lot of training providers like Mthree, Sparta Global, FDM etc that will get you your foot in the door even though the do shaft you.

Why don't y'all just work at home?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P43RLGhc-AQ

>>106196603
>she isn't naked the entire time
unrealistic

>>106196603
>no numpad for ascii codes
poseur

jewish daycare niggers

>>106194693
>Every attempt I've ever made at a serious (non-toy) personal project has failed due to hitting some wall where I can't conceptualize how a serious industry-level product would solve a complex problem
Do you have an example ? I think you might want to try open-source projects to get an idea for the dev's workflow.
If you have great grades you might be better off getting a Master's and maybe PHD.

>>106192729
>blackhatworld.com
this looks like indians trying to scam each other
seriously every post there is kind of bleak and uncool, like in the spirit of spam calling random numbers to hope for an old lady and ask for her credit card
thats the reality of "black hat" i guess

sometimes i see things like guys that go around and fix bitcoin atm issues, it looks high-ish turnover, it's some schmuck on the phone with corporate support running through a checklist of shit to do to the machine. i wonder if theres any way to exploit that. or just anything. idk. exploits maybe are kind of just destined to be mundane and sort of lame.

TODAY I REALIZED HOW IMPORTANT IT IS TO HAVE A KEYBOARD THAT CAN BE PAIRED WITH MULTIPLE DEVICE

I CHEATED ON A CODING INTERVIEW TODAY BY PLACING MY PHONE ON A STAND IN FRONT OF MY LAPTOP AND HONESTLY IT FEELS FUCKING TRICKY TRYING TO TYPE THE QUESTION ON THAT SMALL SCREEN, GOING BACK TO THE KEYBOARD, AND DISRUPTS MY TEMPO AGAIN AND AGAIN. MY FINGERS ARE FUCKING SHAKING BUT LUCKILY CHATGPT GOT MY ASS

>>106194669
Because I don't know anybody, so I have no idea what problems people need solved. Now, I hear you saying, "scratch your own itch," but computers already do everything I need from them. The only thing I'd want to do is make games, but I'm not naïve enough to think I'd make any money doing it.

>>106196061
Long time BHW lurker. They also build and sell bots, resell services and some of them are so crafty they make millions that way. Though many of them are selling the service itself on the site, so take everything they say with a grain of salt. It's like the most Jewish but (accessible to anyone on the third world) type of forum. If you visit that site enough you will envy third worlders from Vietnam because they share the best methods with each other (to rape Youtube's algorithm, etc...).

Their methods are applicable, the issue is that sites have gotten very wise to the methods that used to be milked pretty easily, plus Google engineers and what have you like actual IG/Twitter/TikTok platform owners actually visit the site to see how their platforms are being abused. As such, it is very difficult to apply blackhat methods and require a lot of time and investment to be successful. It's a lot easier than the average poster on the site makes it seem. You need to run several VPS, buy several proxies, run shit manually, avoid scams of which there are many, avoid using a rootkit multiple profile browser made by a Russian hacker, and the list goes on and on. Plus you become very greedy once you start making your first $$$, especially you start thinking only about that and it affects your ambition with everything else (E.G. you only want to earn money). You also start to get wise to sites that focus on running stealth accounts on platforms like Ebay or Etsy, and even more black hat sites that allow discussion of how you'd hypothetically go about having multiple accs, which are all legal grey area. The site is not for the faint of heart.

>>106196914
>It's a lot easier
harder*

How many people here have job experience at an F500 and are still fucked?

>>106196603
>reading a book on transformers... won't get replaced as easily by ai
How the fuck does reading a book about Transformers make you less likely to be replaced by AI?
I watched all the fucking movies - does that mean I get to be CEO of OpenAI now?

>>106196914
yeah, I actually lurked the site some 10+ years ago, when i was a NEET. I tried some of the stuff users published in the forum and then abandoned it because it obviously wasn't for me. still learned some stuff. I can imagine they do shady crap with LLMs these days. haven't visited the forum in quite a while though
Tbh I was trying to motivate anons to do something. if they can't do shit the "right" way, maybe they could do it the shady stuff, at least for fun?

>>106197148
shut up larper

>>106194302
You either wrangle the clanker or it wrangles you

>>106196061
>please tell me, what the fuck are you doing here?
Trying to get one of you unemployed guys to be my live-in housekeeper/maid with promotion opportunities to boywife

>>106197501
I would do this but I'm a big fat mutt irl and decidedly un-cute

just code for fun, anons. learn to do things for fun, not just for a job. If you're willing to get a degree, get one in applied mathematics, not CS, just because it's more broad and allows you to get in so many more fields (including tech if you have contributions to open source projects). Corporate programming isn't programming anyway, it's moving papers around.

>>106195005
Yup, it's a building.

>>106194693
>I just want a job that doesn't make me want to kill myself that also pays enough to sustain a moderately frugal lifestyle (never owning a house or car, never going out to eat, pirating all of my entertainment media, etc.) with some meager savings leftover.
Talk about a jeet existence! If this is your highest conceivable aspiration, it's time to grab a gun!

>>106198159
>if you don't live to get rich you're subhuman
highly judaic post

>>106198220
>just live on the edge of poverty goy, renting forever
I found your profile pic!

>they offer me a position with 3 days in london and 2 remote
yeah no. I rather cut my dick off than ever step into yookay ever again

>>106198159
>it's time to grab a gun!
To shoot the capitalists?

>Apply for jobs
>Make sure resume and github is up to date with projects I have worked on, including the tools I implemented with previous companies I worked with (Which they were happy for me to keep and open source)
>Certs listed clearly, my relevant skills as well
>All references up to date, all happy to bat for me.
>Find pretty standard code monkey job in my job search, the type of shit I've been doing for most of my career.
>Month later after applying
>"We're sorry, we are not continuing with this application because you submitted no substantial proof of previous experience"
WHAT
THE
FUCK
DO
YOU
MEAN?!
I don't know what is worse, no response or this.

You guys are fucking retarded. Super fucking retarded. Do you all honestly think that in tech, it’s more than just coding? Your stupid code monkey shit is the least important role there is once applications and infrastructure is created. Only thing needed is a few smart dudes and a director to maintain it and you’re good to go. There’s SO many other amazing jobs in tech out there in which you retards could leverage your degrees to obtain them. Networking, cybersecurity, IT, industrial SCADA/ICS computing, Linux Administration etc etc etc. you retards think that just having a few projects and a few GitHub projects is enough? Niggers, any retards can do that. Get some fucking certs, build a home lab, showcase those skills and learn how to fucking talk to people. Writing a report and presenting that report is a fucking skill that no AI is going to replace. You retards are no better than the retarded c suite MBA bros thinking AI is going to save their company. You are all the same but the opposite in the sense that you all think AI is going to take your jobs away, no it won’t. You’re supposed to AI to enhance your productivity and help you advance your skill set. The beauty of technology is that you’re continuously supposed to be learning, new technologies come and go. By the time you graduate college, everything is obsolete. You’re supposed to be catching up constantly and be passionate over it. If not, you’re simply not gonna make it ever. Not just on this career field but any career field for that matter, and I’m glad that it’s becoming gatekept and washing all the retards away.

My recommendation is to anyone here with a fucking brain and common sense to get into networking and industrial networks. PLC, SCADA/ICS IoTs etc. that’s a fucking hot market right now with so many jobs opened but in person and require more work and critical thinking than the simple code monkey shit. Get your CCNA, Net+ and Sec+.

which ms office work on linux senpai? preferably you link me a downloadable iso

>>106199677
Sounds like a case of AI not scanning your CV properly. Many such cases unfortunately

>>106195806
Miss me with that shit.

t. NetworKING

>>106199750
Good post. Which is why no one responded because it's true. These faggota have an early 2000s view of tech while everyone else is employed and have to much work to handle.

Also, get a clearance.

>>106199677
GitHub has never gotten me hired every lmao no one cares

>>106199750
had jobs in a few of those, and lately I started coding just to see what's up. and I can honestly say it's all soulless shit. it's interesting when you don't know what it is. unless you have resources and are building your AGI waifu Tony Stark style it's a waste of life. mostly because most of it is useless shit in the grand scheme of things, and only rushes the whole thing towards psycho richfags replacing everyone with robots and everything almost anyone ever worked for will be for the benefit of a select group of people of which you are not part of.

>>106199970
My hard work goes to bombing iranians.

>>106199959
Fair enough, I only put it there as direct proof of shit I've worked on as a "just in case".
Still, I have no clue how they skipped over my professional history and my willing referees.

>>106199921
Just when I couldn't hate HR any more than I did.

>>106197758
>big fat
you can always get down to a healthier weight bro
>un-cute
A) doesn't matter to me, b) you probably think you're not cute cause you're not your type

>>106199948
Exactly. I have a secret that I’m not currently using and where I work at, even though is private security and defense we’re not cleared but yeah man, the market is there. The jobs are there and they require you to be on site and also a citizen. Just last week alone cruising through indeed I saw a post for a PLC controller at a gas company. Fucking paid 55 per hour, per fucking hour. Not salary but by the hour. They wanted someone with a CS , EE or Math degree, net+ and at least basic knowledge on what ICSs are. If I wasn’t comfy and moving up to secdevops I would’ve jumped on it and I have a fucking philosophy degree with a double minor in Comp Eng and Math. Tech is more than just coding man, but whatever. I’m going to let these retards keep being retards. It just means that there’s more opportunities out there for real intelligent people. Both emotionally and critically. At the end of the day, the reality is that computer shit and tech shit attracts the most insufferable and autistic individuals aka most users here. Anyway, that’s my rant to yall. Stop being unemployable and branch out into other niche fields that are booming.

>>106197501
Can i be your boywife when i look like this

>>106197814
My life wouldve been better if i picked up japanese and organization skills back in highschool than gayming and coooding.

Loser autists love to say "i rather deal with computers than deal with people waaaah" and yet they have no jobs and no career progression because they never bothered to practice how to rizz people up.

>>106199750
I keep failing programming classes for the entirety of uni but passes easily on non programming ones. If i didnt waste the money to repeat those classes i would get ccna, net+, and sec+ just like you said.

I wish I were an us citizen and could join ICE

>>106200512
>saaaar please redeem inside me
Why would an Indian be in this thread, go get a free Jewish daycare h1b job from literally anywhere

>>106200622
You still can. Those programming classes prepared you to understand subnets, how packets operate and the ability to read logs. Don’t be a retard, you can literally finance that shit now through affirm if you’re a poor fag

>>106201148
Comptia certs costs 2x minimum salary here

Ccna costs half

>now through affirm
Whats that am ESL

>>106201229
>incapable of typing "affirm finance" into their search engine or llm of choice
>talking about getting comptia and ccna certs
Brother, I don't think computers are the job for you.

>>106199750
>Get your CCNA, Net+ and Sec+.
I did and more. I got a 20 dollar an hour job. American tech is dead. At least having a 20 dollar an hour job is worlds better than being completely unemployable.

>people using "clank" as an epithet for something that doesnt make clank noises
it was stupid in deux ex and it's stupid irl. "bot" was a perfectly cromulent insult and pushing "clanker" is a psyop to make anti-ai people sound dumb

> "Chat GPT 5 please mail my resume to 1000 high quality companies."
> Lel sorry m8, I cannot use outlook but I can describe how to send an email.
> "Chat GPT 5, this is supposed to be the AI revolution, how can you not send email?"
> get fucked noob, write your own email.

>>106197046
I've worked at UPS, Home Depot, and Delta doing software development. No one is impressed.

>>106201280
I genuinely just heard about that term today. Maybe you're just a cryptobro

>>106201650
Also im from third world

>>106201650
Literally every fuckin website that sells things that cost more than $50 has some kind of bullshit buy-now-pay-later financing option available to fuck people who can't afford what they want out of more money. Affirm, klarna, PayPal pay later, sezzle, afterpay, splitit, etc.
>everything?
Everything.

>>106201727
the image only costs 1 cent more with financing...

>>106201751
Yeah, but if you miss a payment then they hit you with late fees and that's where they make the money. Also for more expensive things they charge interest.

>>106201727
are americans capable of expressing anything without also posting something gun related

>>106201293
Sounds like a location and also resume issue.

>>106201229
That sounds like a you problem. Obviously if the market in your country is X and you go to school for Y yet there’s no Y jobs around, then get fucked. Should’ve stuck to X instead.

how do i go back in time to change career path?

>>106202130
Nigga i go to compsci
The market here are actually government schools, semi-military education that guarantees to be a civil servant upon graduation

>>106116549
>It's possible you could get an IT job with a CS degree, but IT is a different field. They'll expect you to organize networks, image computers, and that kind of thing.
They literally tell people in college to go with a CS major even if you wanna do IT

>>106202398
When I learned CS I used ARch. I thought it would teach me IT. Instead it taught me that pacman -Syu will suicide my computer weekly.

>>106194763
and you can't get a job with that?

>>106196444
what if you haven't had a single friend for 10 years and is completely anti-social

>have an audio issue at the start of the interview
>get nervous because of it
>fail a simple ass coding challenge that I remember solving already like one year ago

It's over bros...

>>106202552
what do they even ask in interviews

>>106202552
Happened to me two days ago
The exam browser keeps beeping loudly each time i tab out to type on my IDE. It's like they want me to fail

>>106202118
>location issue
I'm around manufacturing and other facilities.
>resume issue
I doubt it. But I had zero experience before starting this job. I applied to 200+ internships when doing my bachelors but this was during 2022 to 2025. Almost all of the internships went to women and minorities. The network engineering internship that I was really, really qualified for went to a girl that didn't have any certs and nearly flunked out of her degree that wasn't network related at all. I'm still salty about it. I'll be lucky if I don't kill myself from working/commuting 11 hours then studying the rest of my time. That is my life right now. So don't give me shit about "well you just didn't do anything right", you faggots can fuck well off. I'm fairly lucky the MSP I work at lets t1 techs do t3 shit if they show aptitude.

>>106202552
>coder

Lmao you get what you deserve.

>>106202971
im about to consider msp work since the market is so pajeeted out right now.
hows work life over there?
my background has been completely on networks and i can subnet instantly. would it be it be easy?

>>106199750
>Networking, cybersecurity, IT, industrial SCADA/ICS computing, Linux Administration etc etc etc
shh, don't let these retards know. you will notice with time that most of the dumbasses who post in this thread are genuinely useless and got into tech for the money, not because they are actually interested in tech

>>106202460
who cares? you don't need to befriend normies, but technically minded people, and most of us are anti-social shut ins. just talk to people. you will get used to that wiith time. if you haven't had much social interaction, it will take time and people will think you are weird, but again, who cares? just don't repeat 4chan talking points like blaming "the jews" for everything, hating on women for being women or whatever.
also, maybe talk to a psychologist. tell them you are a shut in, open up as much as you can (unless you have suicidal or murderous ideations...), ask them to help you form more "social" habits.

>>106204256
Matter a fact delete these posts. I don't want these granny programming faggots to figure out shit.

>>106194901
>I have all the skills but an unbearable, entitled, and shitty attitude with 0 ambition
Your kind is best suited for putting fries in a bag.

>>106194901
>Muh college depreshuuuuun
You're a god damned pussy

>>106204062
Depends on the MSP. I am incredibly lucky. The pay is shite, the benefits worse, but everything else is pretty good. Good boss, HR stacies aren't rude, the techs are good dudes. The name of the game is ticket in ticket out. Lots of different technologies though. For me it can be as simple as "I need my password reset" or "my account is locked out" or getting dragged into configuring networks from the ground up or troubleshooting VPN connectivity or being the first person to investigate a security breach. Emphasis on customer service and calling frequently, but I haven't been yelled at yet. It's kind of just a shit show to be honest. I learned a fuckload but 95% of the time I feel like it's a joke that I ended up here. Coming up on 6 months and I like it, and I'd stay if they payed me even 10 dollars an hour more. If you're good and not a greasy lardass they'll send you out on site a fair bit too which means mileage. If your car is a shitbox you can make a fair bit there.

I would be careful because I've heard nightmare stories about other MSPs that treat you like cattle and chew you up with no room to touch complicated shit or advance.

>>106203152
>Coding
What is this autistic boomer aversion to the word

>>106205558
I'm not a boomer, im just laughing at layer 7 peasants.

>>106205590
unless you are a professor at elite uni inventing new algorithms, that's what you are faggot
a coder
deal with it

>>106204394
You right. I’m deleting my post

>>106204593
You have a good fucking job. Stop bitching retard and move up to tier 2 and 3 tickets.
>configuring vpns
You should be doing tailscale connections with kubernetes and terraform by now with your knowledge and move on to Linux administration.

>>106205906
>good fucking job
I can barely afford to eat and if I go to the hospital I'll be bankrupt. That's my only complaint. If that's your definition of "good job" then I don't know what the fuck to tell you.

>>106207043
welcome to america you retarded bitch.

>>106195005
I'm taking these buildings!

>>106196592
You import jeets by millions lmao what did you expect? Good luck with UK, you better get used to dodge knives and acid

>>106199677
Your resume is not ats friendly. Ask chatgpt

>>106207043
Stop being fucking poor. Tired of this shit.

>>106193933 (OP)
Is gender transition a good job getter?

>>106200300
Any advice on how to look up which other fields might be needing people? I'm not in the US, and don't have a ton of experience either.

>>106194901
>>106194901

become a competent microsoft dynamics developer

there is a huge amount of businesses that start using MS Dynamics and then scale up, and then realise it is an unwieldy proprietary piece of steaming shit. but -- they can't stop using it

there are thousands of companies in the US, EU, UK, AU, and NZ that need things as simple as querying sharepoint tables into a pdf report

entry level roles will pay 60-70k no problem. if you combine with industry specific knowledge like food packaging laws, life insurance contracts, power utilities, basically the industries using it the most, you will be able to demand much more.

>>106196914
I lurk there every now and again. I never could figure out how to acutually make any money though. I'm reasonably capable and have enough money to seed the projects. I'm just not good at it

>>106208680
kys kike

>>106208692
Fuck you nigger. Nothing wrong with wanting some extra cash. I have a boring WFH job and can only watch so much Anime and play so many games before it's too boring.

>>106196444
you think making a facebook account is somehow going to help? i have no job exp for recruiter niggers since i only have internships and my degrees are worthless thus far

I am from Mexico, is IT really over? If not, what stack will help me to get a job?
>. Net
>html/Javascript /css
>php
>phyton and data
>Java

>>106208680
make bots and charge people to use them

»That’s not intelligence — it’s just approximation at scale.« (chatGPT-5 about itself after some inquiry for failing the strawberry test).

No one should give money to companies like OpenAI.

>>106209771
i fucking hate the feeling of wanting an LLMs "opinion" on something and it just agrees with you. it's like when a girl you're dating agrees with you bc she's scared you'll hit her or something

>>106209812
Maybe stop hitting her?

>>106209404
You aren't talking about "IT" you stupid fucking spic, you're talking about programing or coding.

>>106205611
I am not, and have never been a cOOOOOder, or a faggot ass programmer like you. I'm better than you.

>>106208680
>I never could figure out how to acutually make any money though
ads from the shadiest ad networks
you could try starting some legit business though

>>106209145
>you think making a facebook account is somehow going to help?
you could try. what's stopping you? laziness? stop being lazy, nigger. no wonder you are unemployed.

hello i'm a chemical engineer who is interested in learning and working in cybersecurity because i have the autism for anything related to warfare (i used to play with simple chemical bombs back when i was little). i have a good grasp than most people with tech.

where do i start? currently i have a job in my field but i feel like i'm going to get bored.

on hindsight i should have went for weapons research but oh well.

>>106212193
Security+
CEH

>>106212193
>cybersecurity
>warfare
lmao, this retard drank the kool aid

this thread (and its child /twg/) has thoroughly convinced me that everyone is a fucking moron when within 12ft of any IT assets and computer usage at all should be treated as a skilled trade

computer illiterate normies ruined everything computerized

>>106213141
you just realized?
big tech pushed for the "learn to code" meme through MSM to destroy the dev market. most of the retards you see in this thread are the ones that fell for it

>>106214225
no i already knew that as soon as the MSM says to go into [field] that [field] is at the cusp of oversaturation and needs just one last push to completely tip the job market in favour of our crapitalist masters

but none of that is an excuse for being unable to operate a printer or open your own e-mail

>>106194693
>I graduated from university with a First-Class Honours BSc in CompSci
Excellent

>blackpilled myself
don't

>through online tech ragebait slop content consumption
Here's the problem

>I struggle with most LeetCode Mediums.
You don't need to grind leetcode to be employable, totally unrelated

>I don't feel even remotely qualified to work with serious industry-grade software systems.
No grad is. You need a team to do that, not a single person. You'll learn that on the job

>to be a LinkedIn socialite
Absolute joke of a website

You should have no trouble finding a job already with what you have if you design your CV well (put relevant projects at the top) and precisely target companies and positions relevant to skills/interests. You could directly contact them even if they didn't set up offers.

is chat gpt generated professional summary a no-go?

>>106194901
>Show i just do two projects (C and COBOL) and apply in two related positions
Yes

>should i just bite the apprenticeship bullet
No

You have all the skills. Ditch the webshit, you hate it, it's oversaturated, and you were already above it thanks to your low-level skills before you even started looking into it. Most programmers start high-level (shit like python, java, ect.) before (if ever) learning about anything low-level. Do what you actually like, let go of whatever is holding you back and you're gonna make it. You're unironically much much closer to a job than you think, anon.

>>106194693
> Every attempt I've ever made at a serious (non-toy) personal project has failed due to hitting some wall where I can't conceptualize how a serious industry-level product would solve a complex problem
Being a professional software developer means implementing *A* solution, studying it to figure out what went wrong, and doing a less shit job the next time. It's unreasonable to expect your first draft of any software to be perfect. Authors don't write a single draft and then ship it, software is no different.

>is it still possible for non-savant autists
yes but you need to learn soft skills and pretend to be a normal person even if its hard.

using powershell to automate printer "management" by literally hitting their management pages with CURL and parsing the results

actual realpost why do people freak out about parsing html with regex

if you have a static page and know where the elements are you're trying to read what is wrong with picking out the html surrounding what you want avia regex nd casting whatever data you want to a real type after that

in my example in >>106215081 PS helpfully returns basically everything meaningful as its own object but even then I still had to do a little to separate tags out

>tfw graphics dev making $120k
>extremely chill job but I want more money
>nobody hires rendering engineers remotely, would have to move which I'm not doing because just bought a house.
how many of you anons are thinking about starting your own software to get everything you want, seems like the next step for me

>>106215119
if i dont get this defence job im banking on im going to just give up and badger my unit to make me a permanent fixture as IT dustman and do tailoring on the side

>>106215162
Defense jobs are super easy to get if you apply to random no-name defense firms. My first job was a defense place making $78k which was GREAT money in 2018 for someone with zero job experience. We were stuck on Java8 sure but they barely expected anything of me.

>>106215219
>Java 8
Based. Once you learn Java you never become unemployed again.

>>106215219
It's a low-tier job making approximately nothing, but I have to do a new clearance application for my cunt's ITAR equivalent, and have to re-do my security clearnace. Unfortunately, I don't have any fucking friends so I have no decent references. I could use my current taskmasters in the military, but they haven't known me for a decade so despite holding Secret already I probably won't get my Not-ITAR cert.

how do i get a jerb?
i've been unemployed the past 7yrs due to giga autism and depression.
i barely managed to complete my compsi msc this year. it was supposed to be ready already 2019, but covid and autism got in the way.

I graduated with a CS degree from a decent college ranked T25 for CS in May 2024, have not been able to find a relevant job since then.

I'm planning to enlist in the United States Space Force in a Defensive Cyber Ops role because I can't find shit.

My goal is to do my 4 years, get out and use the top security clearance + relevant experience to work in government contracting or something similar. Maybe do a master's degree for free with the GI Bill too.

Thoughts on this plan, will this set me up for success in the future?

>>106216133
have fun dying for israel

>>106216189
The chances of me dying while working behind a desk for the USSF are nil, it's a job that stays in the US 24/7.

If there was such a serious war that broke out, a draft would be enacted to gather grunts rather than taking everyone in a specialized role out of their role and making them grunts.

>>106216252
they are going to harvest your adrenochrome

>>106216133
we have several people itt who incessantly complain about being in the military, ask them

>>106216133
> + relevant experience to work in government contracting or something similar.
unless you mean joining Xe, there is a reason that there's military members and then there's contractors. turns out they don't do the same thing and one's experience is irrelevant for the other

>>106216257
If that results in me getting a good job, I don't mind.

>>106216265
I'm new to this thread. Hopefully those people can reply and help me out though.

>>106216292
There a bunch of tech jobs in government contracting or similar fields that require top security clearances and much prefer you have a clearance before you even apply. Even Amazon and Microsoft has top security clearance tech jobs. Military is the most common route to meet that requirement and those are the jobs I'm referring to.

>>106216314
>muh clearance
well >>106215271 is literally complaining that it didn't count so yeah join the space force my man

>>106216347
There are also these two guys in the same thread discussing how important a clearance is:
>>106199948
>>106200300

Keep in mind that a top secret clearance is valued much more highly than a secret clearance, the job I'd be doing would guarantee me top secret.

Also, that anon's clearance being expired was the issue, not that it didn't count.

If I'm wrong though I'd appreciate someone familiar with the space correcting me.

>>106215415
>compsi msc
Why the fuck would you do that?
>>106215119
Yeah corporate careers feel dead, they're certainly not worth investing in/moving for. It's startup season.

>>106216429
yeah, two guys just parroting while someone is describing their lived experience of having to do it again for the sole reason that it was a military-obtained clearance and not one for a civilian job, join the space force bro they hand you a clearance and a civilian job 1m tc starting you are so smart bless your heart little one

>>106216840
His clearance was from a decade ago, completely different situation to me in 4 years just coming out of the military.

Are you being purposefully obtuse? What the fuck else am I supposed to do? I finished my degree but I have no internships, only research experience and no one I apply to gives a shit. If you have better advice I'm all ears, but you don't

>>106216429
>anon can't transfer his bitch boy bottom tier clearance

>then SURELY the gubberment would hand up the deets to his tippy top Angel OA Cosmic Q clearance (IF HE HAD ONE KEK WHAT A BITCH!!!)

yea

>>106216252
>If there was such a serious war that broke out, a draft would be enacted to gather grunts rather than taking everyone in a specialized role out of their role and making them grunts.
Lol could you imagine a draft in the US right now? That would be the end of the federal government. The last thing they're going to do is try drafting people.

We're never having a "war" again, just more "special operations" that last years.

>>106216881
>His clearance was from a decade ago,
m8 a secret lasts 10 years and ts lasts 5

>>106216888
>That would be the end of the federal government. The last thing they're going to do is try drafting people.
this but unironically and for the sole reason that the budget would ENTIRELY collapse

it costs a fuckton of money to train people. even if it's just sending them all to leavenworth, handing them a rifle, and making sure they know which way towards enemy, think of the commercial air flights alone

actually nvm i take it back a draft would single-handedly save the airline industry do it now obama

>>106215415
me on the left

>>106197046
Eight years at one. No one gives a flying fuck.
>>106201598
ffs man :(

>>106216897
>>106216883
His situation just isn't relevant to me. I've read plenty of redditors talking about coming out of a TS role in the military in the last few years and using it to apply to TS clearance civilian positions.

>>106216888
>>106216913
Exactly. People who talk about joining the military = dying are absolute retards, especially when the person is only considering a desk job.

Forever wars that kill countless American soldiers are not in the interests of those who run the world.

I might as well take advantage of the military as it's a glorified jobs program now.

>>106207485
This is incredibly important advice. Follow it.
No one is reading shit anymore, you need to convince Borg first.

>>106216950
>Forever wars that kill countless American soldiers are not in the interests of those who run the world.
We're absolutely going to continue that they just won't call them what they are.

>>106197046
I have about 7 years at three different F500s plus some smaller startup experience.

I've finally gotten to the point where they actually consistently write rejection letters to job applications instead of ignoring them entirely.

>>106215112
>if you have a static page and know where the elements are you're trying to read what is wrong with picking out the html surrounding what you want avia regex nd casting whatever data you want to a real type after that
That's not parsing *HTML* that's parsing a restricted language that maybe has some HTML in it.
You should really use an xml stylesheet (ie with htmltidy and then xml starlet) if you want to do it in a quick one liner.

>>106216950
>Exactly. People who talk about joining the military = dying are absolute retards, desk job
people will make fun of you endlessly using it because it's low hanging fruit and failure to accept that dynamic of The Banter is the lamest way to get washed out

>I might as well take advantage of the military as it's a glorified jobs program now.
you can but take it from me who did exactly that: it's very slow to get anything done for you that has high Return On Resume, and often the things that *look* high RoR are not so in the real world.

and as for the clearance thing that was me and honestly I used to think the same and apply to jobs in confidence that it was a genuine help; I have been informed by a place I got a start date that this is not the case and they do not have access to the same systems the military does, so the paperwork has to be redone. it should progress faster (after all if you have an active clearance why would you get denied in re-applying) but it's a pain in the ass and not necessarily free (since there may have been Developments of Sorts since you got that clearance and have to reapply/renew, at the very least costing you valuable time)

that said if you're dead set on le spess forerc memery, who knows, you might just find a long and fulfilling career there and not even need to use it to scam lockheed or northrup later. personally, if my job offer falls through i was thinking of taking some time to remuster to cyber nonsense in my own cunt due to similar new developments in our trade structure

>>106217027
>That's not parsing *HTML* that's parsing a restricted language that maybe has some HTML in it.
nah i meant literally the html management page like you hit up in a browser to see where the ink level is. in fact that was my specific task that day. someone wanted ink levels of all the printers in the building and i didnt feel like getting up from my chair

>>106217037
>and as for the clearance thing that was me and honestly I used to think the same and apply to jobs in confidence that it was a genuine help; I have been informed by a place I got a start date that this is not the case and they do not have access to the same systems the military does, so the paperwork has to be redone. it should progress faster (after all if you have an active clearance why would you get denied in re-applying) but it's a pain in the ass and not necessarily free (since there may have been Developments of Sorts since you got that clearance and have to reapply/renew, at the very least costing you valuable time)
I briefly dated a gril who had a clearance and worked for I think Palentir. She really hated it. Apparently they periodically check on you somehow and there's a ton of normal stuff you just can't do.

>>106217048
Yes, doing that with regex is a major hack because you can't really validate anything.

It's like doing things in yaml. Sure it works but it's going to blow up in hard to understand ways 3-7 years from now.

>>106217066
they say that but all the secret squirrels ive met have been the most wack people on the planet, they manage to be even weirder than me

theres stuff like "thou shalt not post politics on social media" and people DO check and WILL charge you for getting too hype online but only if it's associated to your name and is reasonably public. i think it's mostly unit-level security officers occasionally googling people they dont like and fishing for reasons to fuck them over

>>106217078
>blow up in hard to understand ways 3-7 years from now.
i would hope that no one is remotely updating the printer management page. and also that in 3-7 years they at least got a new printer, and are not running random scripts they found in my personal network "My Documents" expy folder

>>106217080
>and people DO check and WILL charge you for getting too hype online but only if it's associated to your name and is reasonably public.
So that's why all the IPs in Reston/Arlington are always banned here.

>>106217078
He's not creating a monumental, distributed project with regex and PS. Just some quick data extraction.

>>106217037
I'm not dead set on le special forces shit. Just looking for a salary, job experience and benefits. The VA home loan, free masters, cheaper car/home insurance, healthcare, etc seem very appealing long term. I heard in the Space Force people regularly get free Security+ and other certs.

Also, they have a 6 month internship where you can work at a company across the country near the end of your contract while still serving and they pay for your accommodations.

>>106217066
Working at Palantir/Anduril in the future would be the dream for me ngl

>>106217091
>i would hope
Most people prefer not to hope.

>>106217113
>Working at Palantir/Anduril in the future would be the dream for me ngl
It sounds like hell to me: lots of external customer interaction/essentially consulting. Consulting with government admins no less.

>>106217124
Yeah, but you get to be a soulless bad guy in a suit making the world worse for big paychecks

>>106217131
I'm more of a Hawaiian shirt and flipflops "LGTM: kind of guy.

>>106199934
We're gonna get replaced too eventually my man. It's just a matter of time.

>>106217098
reverse effect; IPs from any wifi or mobile network near bases or contractors are always banned because it turns out almost everyone who joins the MIC in any capacity are a big gaggle of shitposting lunatics

>>106204292
>hating on women for being women
Most of us hate women for trying to be men and being bad it at. If they would just be women that would be great.

Sometimes I wonder if I'm making the same mistake avoiding YC that I did avoiding college when I was 18. Maybe I belong there.

>>106217275

>>106217275
>>106217275

>>106217296
>reddit spacing
Could it be that you're a retarded salty furfaggot who got btfo out of basic training and is trying to gatekeep anons from making the best career decision of their lives?
Literally just join. If you can use a computer and do two pushups you're guaranteed 90k starting and a free job at any defense company you want when you're finished you're service with that fat security clearance and more training than CompTIA could give you.

Is it really that bad? Are they having people samefag on 4chan to drive recruitment? Should I be buying SCO put LEAPS?

>work for 20 hours straight for someone else
>get depressed because I just wasted hours of my life making some jewish nigger richer

>work for 20 hours straight in my on projects
>get satisfaction for being closer to releasing something great
Fuck getting a job. I'm building my own thing.

>>106217369
>Fuck getting a job. I'm building my own thing.
It really sounds like literally everyone is piling into this now. Is the SAAS space about to crash even harder?

>>106217379
It's just people coping since working no longer pays the bills.

>>106217456
>Having bills in obligations when you could see the downturn coming from miles away
ishygddt

>>106216815
>>compsi msc
>Why the fuck would you do that?
uni was semi-free in my country and i was too autistic to find a job anyway during covid

How the fuck am I learning more about computer science AFTER graduating? Who would’ve thunk that not having to cram for exams worth 50% of your grade would be better for retaining information.

>>106217537
They hardly teach you anything in college. Just barebones math and algorithms. They never even really explained dynamic programming where I went.

>>106217537
On my first day of intro to csci they had us talking about Boolean math and we were already given programming assignments to complete. And not those hand holdy beginner ones either. I didn’t even know what a fucking variable was.

>>106217627
>>106217537
>why is SCHOOL where ppl learn THE BASICS????
idk but youre getting genocided for sure

>>106217634
>idk but youre getting genocided for sure
Israel has the right to exist chud.

>>106217627
>On my first day of intro to csci they had us talking about Boolean math
I was taught this when I was in third grade. I don't know why you think that's some kind of advanced topic.

>>106217735
I learned it in preschool. WTF is wrong with your state? are you in niggertown USA or something?

>>106217750
I could see that. It's simpler than integer arithmetic. They probably have some sort of "logic gates for toddlers" book on Amazon.

>>106217537
>>106217579
>>106217627
This inspired me to search up my bastard of a professor on LinkedIn and he’s been unemployed since 2020 lmfao. Fuck that punk.

I have a 4.0 from mit, google internship and now im buttshotting fent in a tent in baltimore

>>106217803
desu I would expect nothing less from an MIT grad. That isn't what it used to be.

>>106217803
a true life explorer, an honourary member of Ballmer's Ballers

Recently discovered that Carnegie Mellon has a Master of Software Engineering program with a 57% acceptance rate, and it's in their CS department.

Is it worth shelling out tens of thousands of dollars to have their name on my resume? It's a 1.5 year program that also comes with a guaranteed internship.

To my understanding they're like one step below MIT/Stanford for CS and better than most Ivies right?

>>106217933
Nah you're better off just joining the space force for that sweet Security Clearance and free Training.

>>106217942
Space Force into CMU Master's is unironically a cracked resume that easily gets a Quant interview thoughbeit

>>106217955
This but unironically. Just do it. If you can't get into Space Force you can always get your foot in the door by going 11B and transferring later...

>>106217979
Very funny bro, but there are Army Cyber (17C) positions that exist that could be a backup to Space Force cyber. 11B was never an option for me

>>106217955
>Quant interview
If quant trading worked you could do it without the rest of the firm. If it doesn't the job is a lie and you're just someone's bitch.

>>106218034
Who gives a crap if the job is a lie as long as they pay

>>106218115
That's what most of the other strippers say.

>>106193933 (OP)
Why not just work at Chipotle?

>>106218265
They don't give you free Training and School like going 11B does.

>>106218265
They should seek my cock to suck for pennies. - network chad

>Unemployable Tech Worker thread
>AI is the main highlight
The jokes write themselves

>>106218653
Funny they show a pajeeta. Most likely to be replaced by a bot.

>>106217537
I got memed into thinking that i can graduate just fine with less than 3.0 GPA, as long as i know how to explain my projects

Turns out I'm getting filtered hard from every single job postings in my country and it's been almost a year already. I have 2.94 GPA, no friends, no referrals. Did a year of QA internship and worked quite a bit as an general admin at some ministry, but all these company want is a 3.4 GPA.

>muh degree
>muh GPA
lil neetbros thinking it's still 2019 or something lmao

Im living in backwards country thats why

Exit route for front end engineer? It went the path of the junior.

Thoughts on data center technician jobs if I can't find SWE jobs? I have a CS degree and need a job ASAP, something tech related.

Go to QA

>>106218372
FedEx can literally pay for half of someone's online degree, zoggie.

>>106219126
Pivot into back end with Python.
Or learn to weld, idk

>>106219239
The US Army will pay for all of it. FedEx loses again!

>>106219269
Wouldn't matter since nobody would have the time or energy to go to school while in the army. It's just a jobs program for fuckups.

>>106219238
Is QA actually hiring or nah? Seems like a crapshoot. I got an interview once and the guy basically told me during it that it's a bad job and to do something better with my life.

>>106219298
Something better like what?

>>106219298
I have a friend who got hired by Mercari and has been living in Japan for like 2 years now. His career is in QA.

>>106219337
>>106219344
He basically told me to go for SWE if I had even the slightest interest and that QA was a mistake. I've never experienced an interview like that, basically a demotivational speech.
I'll try applying to QA too though, need something.

>>106219280
You do it after your service, anon. First you make bank, then you soft-FIRE going to school for free with all your money you made on the US Army.

>>106219371
How did you got an interview like that in the first place? Why would a QA recruiter told you to not follow through with QA? Any job is better than no job.
He just doesn't want to hire you

It's been over a year since I graduated and still no job. Is it over for me?

>>106219685
Not by a longshot. The US Army is waiting for you...

>>106219709
>just officially become us property, goy!

>>106219709
Not really feeling like dying for israel today

>>106219822
Who said it's for israel?

>>106219685
Join Space Force with me bro

>>106219846
What was the last war that wasn't for Israel?

Good morning, sirs. I'm 30 and I wanna try this. Am I crazy?

>>106220652
WW1?

How do you guys spread your time on the week between
1. Applying for jobs
2. Practicing for interviews (leetcode and whatnot)
3. Building projects (multiple)
4. Exercising

Also do you make side income as well? Like part time jobs? How often do you do chores at home?

What do you answer when asked about your personal projects. I am thinking I'll start answering random shit I never followed through but that I'm not willing to put up for public. Is there a meta for filling up your github with vibe coded shit?

I find it baffling that only a couple of years ago I got constant job offers and now I get dick. I've applied to multiple jobs, some of which I legitimately thought I'd be a great fit for, but I hear the same fucking shit every time: "we don't think you'd be a fit for the job". Like, what the fuck? I match your requirements, I can do what you ask, I got a portfolio proving as much, what more do you want?

>>106221937
Get fucked jeet back to mcd with you

>>106217933
Copying my earlier response since I somehow posted in the archived one 2 threads before:

went to CMU for undergrad cs. It had like 10% acceptance rate back then. I don't think people view the software engineering as a real degree vs CS here. Even then, the CS courses in masters were the same as the ones that 1st and 2nd year undergrads take lmao.

But it still is a good school and name to have. Still top 4 in CS, and they don't pamper and hand out A's like Harvard and Stanford do. But Pittsburgh campus was a miserable location and no one liked it

Is American job market purely mega corps automating everything away?
I've not worked for a company above 50 employees and there's 100's of them in a 10 mile radius hiring software developers

I fucking wish I was unemployed. You people don't know how good you have it right now. Fuck this shit one thousand times over. I want to play video games and lay in bed shitposting all day. I don't want any more meaning or purpose. I just want to exist unimpeded by external factors.

>>106222394
i'm unemployed and my parents and younger siblings call me bumfuck retarded nigger everyday.

I dont know if its just me but using gmail on the mobile app is so unreliable

When i hit send the app just closes out on its own and i thought the email was sent already

I checked it hours later on my pc and it was still on the draft.

The email was about an interview invitation next day morning

I hope this wont affect me in any way

Aaaand yet another rejection. I don't even make it into the interview stage anymore.

Job interviewing from a current job but I think my question fits here more than the other one. When people ask why you're looking to leave your current job, how exactly do you spin it? For me, I have a restructure in my company and it's completely thrown things completely bonkers as power politics is causing shit to spiral out of control without any direction. Some of new stakeholders are insanely pushy and I don't want to deal with them anymore but if I mention this, it'll sound like I'm avoiding responsibility. I mean I am but fuck me I don't want the business to dictate shit for me and they're always out of line.

>job application REQUIRES linked-in profile
>4 linked-in connections
am I cooked? is there a way to fix my dead as fuck inactive linked-in profile before applying?

>>106222394
so just quit then and become unemployed if it's so great

>>106223530
Not him but damn I want money. But then again I spent like 60% of my money on useless shit to get me motivated and moving to go to work. I'd rather save the money and learn and do shit. But it does give me a meaning to work in life I guess even if I dread almost every minute of it.

>>106215062
This. Iteration and soft skills = success. Iteration will level up your work quality. Soft skills will get you money. All you need is one connection to a money source, ie a successful business owner boomer who needs a tech autist. This connection is often made indirect, for example you could work a entry level job doing something else that gets you in contact with the type that would need the skills you want to offer. Or volunteering or writing open source code to get contacts.

Worked 8 years in IT. Went up from Service Desk, to 2nd Line to Sysadmin.

Quit for a year, now I'm learning how to weld while already getting paid by a company. Learn a trade. Working in a factory is the best shit ever, you get physical exercise every day, zero roasties looking over your shoulder, building shit gives a feeling of satisfaction, every boomer wants to teach you and hire you immediately.

Best decision of my life desu

>>106221979
I'm Dutch you tard.

>apply for a job i'm a perfect fit for
>takes a month to get an answer
>"sorry we went with another candidate"
>still see the same job offer floating around online weeks later

Yeah sure you went with someone else. I fucking hate this industry.

>>106224010
Oh hey, so it's not just me.
How much experience do you have? I have 7 years and I'm not even getting interviews.

>>106223351
>When people ask why you're looking to leave your current job, how exactly do you spin it?
I'm not sure this is a good idea but I tell them "the scope of my job is narrow and I feel like I'm stuck, and not learning anything new".

>I have a restructure in my company and it's completely thrown things completely bonkers as power politics is causing shit to spiral out of control without any direction
just be honest and tell them that maybe? though that would show some kind of weakness or something, I guess.

>>106223183
use the web ui. it's better IMO

>>106223401
>>4 linked-in connections
>am I cooked?
just list your references in the resume?

>>106223961
learn to code

>>106224048
sue them!

>>106224131
Yeah, that's the problem. I assume that wouldn't be a great answer when they'll probably be like "welp sucks, should've worked harder or had more control".

Even worse when they ask me what type of workplace the new area is and I'm looking for something more heavily structured but it's going to sound more like I'm not a self starter or don't want to take responsibility but it's more I cannot take these motherfucking vague requests and flaky stakeholders who leave me with the bags on these garbage ass requests. My work has become significantly less "Can I do it?" and more "Should I even do this?" and I don't like this. This sucks.

>>106224048
It's still open for Rajeesh

>>106214582
Remove the em dashes

>>106215062
What's a fun project that isn't a toy?
I like watching cs2 pro scene despite not playing the game itself. What if i made something like a match and score tracker? Like a HLTV clone?

>>106224131
>>>4 linked-in connections
>>am I cooked?
>just list your references in the resume?
yeah I'm just asking if there is anything I can do to make my profile more hireable since providing my profile is mandatory

>>106217627
the first day, first exercise sheet of my cs bachelor was this. As someone who barely passed high school math I got brutally /rekt/ that first year

>>106224530
>No matrix calculations
You had it easy

>>106224530
you're supposed to cheat on stuff like this, no? honest to God when are you gonna use it for a job?

>>106224686
that was another course, I had 4 math courses and one intro to programming java course

>>106224048
You have to be an indian

>>106224840
>you're supposed to cheat on stuff like this, no?
you can skip it if you are confident you won't need it for the exam. If you are advanced, you calculate the weight of subject or question types on old exams, make an average over the last few exams, and use that to determine what order to study shit, and whether to drop a topic that takes a lot of time to learn vs the % of the exam it takes

>>106224840
>honest to God when are you gonna use it for a job?
never. I have already forgotten 90% of the math I have done. I might have to dig up some of it for some courses I have coming up, but employably speaking, i would have been better off following indian java tutorials

I got one shot by an OA because I didn't know how to do a Fenwick Tree which seems to be something for competitive programming and mostly a hard topic on leetcode, this was for an internship...

onto the next one I guess

>>106224840
The material itself is easy once you know the fundamentals, just not appropiate to give it to first years as it's calculus level math, usually taught in uni itself.

>>106224947
Why would you want to work for such pretentious places anyway?

>>106225029
I want a job

I would be making $90k-$120k. I would have a girlfriend. I would be living comfortably. I wouldn't be the joke of my family for not having a job at 27 and graduating wby the time the degree itself became a meme. Switching from healthcare to a CS career was the biggest mistake of my life. Not just career ending, but brutal life ending event. My 20s wasted, not socializing as much with girls just to get ny life back on track and finish this degree, time I will never get back.

>>106225083
Meamwhile my HS friends are either fuckboys or got lucky and are getting married. If not, they at least have stable jobs so they can afford whores. And if I want to undo some of the fuckery, get a job so I can make myself at least a tad bit more attractive to girls? Too bad, no one wants to hire me. Even if there's no gap in my resume, the education itself is a massive gap.

>>106225137
My dad told me to become a doctor but I wanted to go against the wishes of my entire family and now I'm drowned in debt and without a job instead of debt and a nice paying job.

Online Hr interview in 9 hours. Wish me luck

>>106224947
>look up Fenwick trees
>first proposed in 1989
Jesus that's an insanely obscure and modern data structure to ask about on any interview let alone an internship interview.

>>106225631
Well makes sense, it was a non-tech boomer company.

This type of rejection email I don't get mad at
>Thank you for submitting your application for the X position Currently, the position has been either filled or closed.
When the email says we decided to pursue other candidates or candidates with better qualifications, that's what makes me me pissed at the company

Is there a way to recover your LinkedIn account if uploading your driver's license for verification failed?

this stakeholder is actually driving me insane, she'll request shit from us and then throw us under the bus on any formal requirements or talking to the stakeholders. Like I can't believe this shit, all she does is point to us and whenever we ask some stuff about her request she goes "I can't really help you." and she's so fucking brash and not working with us, and I really don't even want to work with her at all.

fuck I'm actually starting to really lose my cool.

>>106226207
>Starting

Ahahaaha

>>106221633
i end up panicking and doing nothing the whole week and apply to 100 jobs on sunday night

>>106226379
Before I could hide it in meetings, but this stakeholder is such a "I'm too busy for this, you take care of it" to almost everything she asked us and then she's always like "leadership has eyes on this", oh "no this isn't what I wanted" (despite never giving formal requirements or even requirements at all in what she's asking). I'm using my best guess here but they're both constantly complaining. If she has a request from the business she'll just forward it over to us and throw us in the fire. I'm honestly really losing my fucking cool over the way she does things. It's not cool at all.

>be IT guy at a startup
>because it's a tech startup all the programmers are directly above me on the org chart and are all equally "my boss"
>have to give them all local admin on their machines and then reimage them every day when they break something
>most of them don't know how to use the office printer and say I'm "personally hurting their productivity" even though no one uses it for anything other than printing unfunny icanhazcheezburger image macros and the elon musk "let that sink in" pic over and over
>they constantly complain that "the wifi is too slow" and yell at me to fix it even though they're all using wired connections to docking stations at their desks
>today one of them threatened to dock my pay because the office was too cold

Do you guys ever regret a job move? This was kinda based during the first year but second year in this job with all my seniors leaving is not bueno. I mean it was the same in my last job, but my last job was repetitive work where I knew what needed to be done. This job I'm stuck by politics, power plays and governance.

>>106226525
yeah i should have learned to draw and just done furry porn, those guys make millions off patreon for doing nothing

sigh one more month then I can get my big bonus and just fucking actually "fuck this shit, fire me if you want" mode activates.

Is an unpaid internship ever worth it bros?

I feel like I'm getting exploited at my current one. Weekly commitments, two team syncs, weekly meetings (like about 3, 3 at different days while onboarding, each about an hour). I will be expected to work on some tasks for some project soon. It's a startup and they do not offer structured training for the tasks we will be working on. Many (if not all) of my supposed coworkers including members who are about finish their internships are not paid and currently still looking for a job. From my understanding, such a thing is not legal, because the moment I start working on tasks, I'm providing value to the company, and I'm no longer getting trained, which shouldn't be legal? I also see that they require projects down the line. What do you guys think, is this legal? I'll stick around until I find something, but this seems very shady to me.

>>106227103
I got two but it was for a family friend's small non-tech company and I pretty much just did 1-2 days of work on the first one and a week on the second one now I can claim I have 12 months of experience.

>>106227103
it's better than being unemployed. just apply to jobs with the experience on your resume.

>4 rounds of interviews for $50k salary tech adjacent job
>just got the rejection email
Phew. That was close.

>>106226449
Take some unplanned sick time off. Lie about having the flu or something. Let those pricks see how quickly everything unravels if you're not there to wipe their asses.

>>106215219
good thing those all ghosted me!

>>106216881
damn im in the same spot as you, hopefully we get something soon