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READ THE (temp)WIKI! & help by contributing:
https://igwiki.lyci.de/wiki/Home_server

/hsg/ is about learning and expanding your horizons. Know all about NAS? Learn virtualization. Spun up some VMs? Learn about networking by standing up a OPNsense/PFsense box and configuring some VLANs. There's always more to learn and chances to grow. Think you’re god-tier already? Setup OpenStack and report back.

>What software should I run?
Install Gentoo. Or whatever flavor of *nix is best for the job or most comfy for you. Jellyfin/Emby/Plex to replace Netflix, Nextcloud to replace Googlel, Ampache/Navidrome to replace Spotify, the list goes on. Look at the awesome self-hosted list and ask.

>Why should I have a home server?
De-botnet your life. Learn something new. Serving applications to yourself, your family, and your frens feels good. Put your tech skills to good use for yourself and those close to you. Store their data with proper availability redundancy and backups and serve it back to them with a /comfy/ easy to use interface.

>Links & resources
Cool stuff to host: https://github.com/awesome-selfhosted/awesome-selfhosted
https://reddit.com/r/datahoarder
https://www.reddit.com/r/homelab/wiki/index
https://wiki.debian.org/FreedomBox/Features
ARM-based SBCs: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1PGaVu0sPBEy5GgLM8N-CvHB2FESdlfBOdQKqLziJLhQ
Low-power x86 systems: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1LHvT2fRp7I6Hf18LcSzsNnjp10VI-odvwZpQZKv_NCI
SFF cases https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1AddRvGWJ_f4B6UC7_IftDiVudVc8CJ8sxLUqlxVsCz4/
Cheap disks: https://shucks.top/ https://diskprices.com/
PCIE info: https://files.catbox.moe/id6o0n.pdf
>i226-V NICs are bad for servers
>For more SATA ports, use PCIe SAS HBAs in IT mode
WiFi fixing: pastebin.com/raw/vXJ2PZxn
Cockpit is nice for remote administration

Remember:
RAID protects you from DOWNTIME
BACKUPS protect you from DATA LOSS

I'm b4 retarded frog posts about windows

I bought a core switch to use in my bedwoom and now I want to kill myseklf because it SO LOUD

>>106198076
reposting

>>106198100
Depends on what sort of media you'll be serving, audio and ebooks sure, video might be a stretch depending on what will be handling the transcoding and how many concurrent streams you'll be running.

>>106194616
>I need something sff
>slot them into my growing home server cabinet
bit contradictory but alright, I guess you mean in terms of server units
>with enough pcie (4.0 or 5.0) lanes to slot in 2 x8 gpu's
Literally any board with the right electrical slots, that's the whole reason Intel has pursued this strategy. Just make sure you confirm there aren't any lane occupation gotchas, which is the case on many boards. Also avoid USB4 if you're buying a consumer board.
>Intel workstation Gpu's
>future proofed for the foreseeable
Not sure that a borderline collapsing company that needs the US government to extort competitors for cash and whose CEO who is hostile to the dGPU division, is the epitome of future-proofed. But alright kek
>AI
Nvidia
>rendering Blender animations
Nvidia
>video encoding
Slim Intel win in dGPUs - but unless you have some insanely heavy workflow for this, an iGPU is way more efficient and still competent
>whatever I want to tinker with
Nvidia (because every tinker dev owns one)
But if you absolutely insist on going with dual Intel GPUs, the prior answer about motherboards is sufficient nonetheless. Also fuck you for replying near the bump limit.

>>106197097
Just put a fucking NF-A4x20 on the heatsink like I said and stop blogging
>but I don't want to hear the fan whirring because it's on a high duty cycle from the same fan header and I live on top of my 'server'
get an external fan controller and set a custom speed for it then. There is zero point fucking around with these chassis fan positions, just direct cool the heatsink like every other schlub who gets a fast NIC for the first time.

>>106198100
>personal media server
those words mean nothing without knowing what you're serving and how much you're serving. The answer is probably "no" beyond like two streams. Also are you not that poor Yuro from a few threads ago who was fretting over the €50 he spent on this?

>>106197995
Why the fuck are you running a core switch out of your bedroom?

>>106198166
audio and video mainly. max three concurrent streams, 2+ video would be very rare. what part of it is the bottleneck? I'm in the very early stages of reading up on this so I don't have many intelligent questions.

>>106198202
do you agree he overpaid? if so that answers my immediate question.

>>106198254
Integrated graphics from the CPU is likely not going to really cut it for multiple video transcodes.

Additionally a 256GB SSD is enough for OS and applications but for your actual media storage you'll want a couple TBs, if you want redundancy so you can lose a drive and not lose data you'll need at least 3 in RAID 5

Made my dashboard
I'm not sure what else to add to it, I thought about having metrics and sensors on the dashboard but I'm better off having a dedicated page or just look at the actual service page.

have i overlooked something?
Setup should be able to handle some basics on Unraid: Home Assistant, plex/jelly, adguard. All without going full power on the fans.
I might also switch the Jonsbo N3 case, its not that much more expensive

>>106198441
How will you be transcoding for plex/jellyfin?

>>106198243
It was cheap and does nbase-t

>>106198557
But it being loud and somebody wanting to get rid of it is why it's so cheap. I bought some servers off eBay in the past and powering them up was a mistake.
I salvaged the hard drives out of them though which was why I was buying them in the first place.

>>106198583
The next solution would have been £50 more

>>106198460
the N150 should be handle this
here is a guy playing multiple 4k streams in parallel on it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pN01PFgafdI&t=155s

my server runs windows 10 and will never need anything else

>>106198100
I answered you in the previous thread.
And yes.
I'm using HD 530 and it can handle 4k 10-bit HEVC decoding.
It's what I'm doing and it can handle two concurrent streams no problem.
I'm using jellyfin though and not plex.
I can push it to 5 concurrent streams if I do the streaming manually with ffmpeg.

If I get multi port NIC, Would each port be a unique IP or it would just act as a switch?

Are these mini pc bad idea for beginners home server?

>>106199307
Each will get its own interface you can configure separately.

>>106199387
You could make it act as a switch if that were what you wanted by bridging them altogether though.

>>106198100
easily
that would be good enough to serve files to all of /g/, let alone a single person

>>106199311
So long as you go in with the expectation that you will be limited with what you can run.

Though these kind of devices can be handy with tinkering with containers even after you've upgraded to something a bit beefier.

>>106199391
How to do that?
This is really what I want.
I know getting unmanaged switch would be an option, but this is just LAN gaming and not even connected to a router.

>>106199412
Limited how?

>>106199491
What I'm saying is you won't be able to run every service under the sun concurrently from a mini PC just due to the resource limitations mini PCs inherently have.

Most home labs do start with a mini PC, though depending on what you want to run you may wish to also explore a refurbished workstation like a thinkcentre or an optiplex.

Again depends on how many services you'll be running, what services you'll be running, how you may wish to scale those services in future.

Fuck I need a x86 based anything that uses fucking 0 power. I'm looking at just getting a old as shit baytrail based 2w sdp ass tablet and disabling the screen and shoving it in a box.
Is there really any other option? I'm not interested in anything like 4w+ because loaded down that becomes 10w. My old baytrail tablet pulled like 6w from the battery loaded down with the screen on, so that's my goal.

I got a 6Gbps SAS card and a 10Gb fiber card out of a PowerEdge R610. I'm going to try them in my ProLiant DL380 G6. The iLO will probably throw a fit and ramp the fans up to 100%. If the SAS card triggers the iLO it looks like I can try flashing generic firmware to it to replace the Dell firmware.

>>106199311
>Beginner
A mini pc or old desktop.
>Experienced
A server-grade setup. Maybe rack mount.
>Expert
A bunch of mini pcs as kubernetes nodes with a dedicated DAS for shared storage. Isolating storage and workers. It doesn't get better than this.

>>106200033
Based worker node anon

What're your thoughts on clustering nodes?

>>106197925 (OP)
This looks giga aids to take out.

>>106199484
how many PCs are you connecting? building a switch into a PC means the rest of the machines won't have a LAN unless that one PC is on and its OS is specifically configured to forward frames between specific interfaces. this might also put a strain on the OS, since it will have to forward frames for other hosts on top of processing them for itself. i'd say just get a 5 port gigabit switch and call it a day. it will get the job done perfectly and cost next to nothing.

>>106200146
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>i'd say just get a 5 port gigabit switch and call it a day
Would just getting a switch would assign IP address to my machines?
>windows
I'm running linux

>>106200191
>Would just getting a switch would assign IP address to my machines?
no, you'll have to assign your own IPs to each machine.

>>106200198
>>106200191
Or use DHCP. You probably have a router in your network (your own or provided by your ISP) and it is probably running DHCP which will automatically assign addresses in a dynamic fashion. You'll only have to manually assign addresses if you specifically want something static (although that's best done on the DHCP server to reserve the address from its pool)

>>106200413
This is assuming your router is connected to the switch of course. If this is an isolated network then there will be no DHCP unless you set that up on the server, etc.

>>106200413
I don't have a router.
I have 4 PCs that I want to connect them to start LAN games.
No internet or anything like that.
These are PCs from 00s that have old games, it doesn't even support TCP.

>>106200485
Then you'll have to manually assign addresses to each one unless you run a DHCP server (e.g Dnsmasq) on one of the machines.

>>106200503
>Dnsmasq
How hard is that?

>>106200524
Pretty easy to setup you just install and enable it and turn it on its config. You only need this if you absolutely want dynamic address assignment though. If you're okay with manually setting a static address on each machine then you can go without it.

>>106200542
I'm not sure you could assign static IP for windows ME

>>106200547
if it's capable of having an IP address then it's capable of getting one assigned manually.

What's the logistics of having a server running jellyfin, but storing all my videos on a separate NAS. Both boxes would bet connected to the same 2.5 gig switch.

>>106201310
Just network overhead

ProtonVPN with split tunneling does not work if you use a local DNS. This means my self-hosted sites are inaccessible. Is there a way around this?

>>106201618
>ProtonVPN
Even their free tier openvpn and wireguard config don't work.

>>106197995
dude just buy some tplink

>>106198202
It's a much better idea I'll give you that, but I'm satisfied with these temperatures. Plus now my HBA is getting more direct airflow as well, so it's a double win.
I do have a spare fan hub and some 30mm fans lying around, I'll give it a crack if I get bored.
>blogging wahhhh
You're on an imageboard anon.

>>106198202
sff so I can maximize space for future tech.
The Intel stuff has appeal in of that the upcoming workstation GPU's are basically just 2 of the next lower tier duck taped together,
I guess I could always grab 2 used 3060 12GB and be content with that for now.

can i ask chatgpt to modify one of these pieces so i can mount a fan? and how much would it cost to print?

>>106202384
You could easily ziptie fans to that. Otherwise just pirate solidworks

>>106202384
Ziptie

Looking to make a NAS/Home server (fully on LAN only) to run LANraragi and hydrus (probably on main pc and network storage for the data).
Maybe not the best usecase for such a thing, I just want to scrape as many doujins, manga, anime and boorus as I can before the internet disappears.

Would buying picrel and 2x 8TB wd plus-es be fine? I plan to have windows on it as I can just backup a bunch of .exe and .iso-s for the OS and drivers and software to reinstall later on if something fails or needs to be replaced.
Can't do that with linux because repositories are online.

Anyone doing something similar? Also case recommendations?
I'd like to have an optical drive as I'm backing up stuff on blurays and dvds as well. Already got an external one, but the more the better.
Fractal Design Pop Mini Air looks good, but with an optical drive I can only have 2 HDDs if I read it correctly.
Intel Core i3-10105 ASRock H510M-H2 or ASRock H510M-HDV is what I'm considering with a normal PSU, not the PICO thing.
Not sure the difference between Intel H470 and Intel H510 is though.

Any opinions on the stupid shit I'm doing here?
I feel like I'm just building a second PC for no good reason.

>>106199587
Dell wyse 3040

>>106202384
Fusion 360 is free for hobbyists (10 active editable documents)

>set up immich
>add my game screenshots folder too, why the hell not
>face search now full of game characters
There's something funny about seeing chinese cartoon characters next to my friends and family

this is for certain admins, if the user posting this >>106197140 is honest, then you maybe want to watch out for IP's of Deutsche Glasfaser. (for example 93.41.108.xxx and many others.) the question is if the accounts of this ftth provider are super easily hackable ...

>>106197925 (OP)
Virt-manager issue here while copying my win10 disk (qcow2) to another system. I copy-pasted the disk + xml (just needed to change the uuid).
My issue is that I can't boot into the system and always get boot repair screen. That is, unless I change the disk type from virtio to SATA.
How do I keep my disk as virtio (which it is)?

I was thinking about a way to get around the one household thing for all the streaming apps, since i already run a VPN for my house i figured my family could make my place the house and then they use a VPN to be within my network. Whats the easiest way to do this? It seems like a lot of the ISP provided routers dont have built in VPN clients so it's not as easy as just putting in the details there and having their entire network route through mine.

>move VM from one server (N100) to another (G3900)
>both Guix with almost identical configs
>VM XML pretty much the same
>connecting the same way through SSH tunnel in virtual manager
>don't have graphical spice console on the G3900 (stuck on connecting)
Truly a mystery.

How do you all setup your NAS and pools? Do you make one dataset and then share it? Right now i have separate smb datasets for movies or shows and the like. Is this wrong? I'm replacing all of my drives so i will be setting up a new pool, wondering if doing the same thing again is wrong. Also, is there an easy way to change the pool name.

Also curious what you name your pool(s)

>>106206422
>Also curious what you name your pool(s)
pool1 pool2 pool3

why the FUCK is setting up nginx reverse proxy stuff so hard?

>>106206521
I had a lot of issues with it. When i tried the proxy manager gui version it went better. Ive still had issues. I cannot get it so that i can get access to local only.

>>106200077
What do you mean by clustering? Setting up a high availability kubernetes cluster with a bunch of mini pcs is absolutely the way to go. You probably need at least 10Gbit networking between the nodes for it to be reliable. So it's more expensive than the other setups.

Also the storage is still a single point of failure. But that's fine considering cost/benefit in a homelab setting.

Any reccs for a cheap ass amazon router for my NAS in my basement?

Is there any self-hosted booru software that I can throw an image and a csv at and have it Just Werk™ for tagging?

What docs or links do I need to be able to painlessly setup OpenWRT as my main router in my office? It’s running on a dell with two NICs and I’m having a miserable time being able to ping out to anything from the router or anything I connect to it.

>>106206741
no

>>106207318
Fuck. I really don't want to try to manually tag sixteen thousand images.

>>106206768
You pretty much only need the wiki
But you also need general networking knowledge

>>106207352
If you already have tags for the pictures you can try just running any generic booru then using a custom script to upload to it through its api

I need a new router, are GLNet and Cudy still the most recommended for OpenWRT?

>>106205844
windows probably has some efi embedded code that doesn't get transferred. just do the boot repair?

>>106207379
"The most recommended for openwrt" would just be any random cheap shit that runs on a platform openwrt doesn't have issues with. Right now that's mediatek, and you can get a wifi 6 mediatek router for like $15 from china.

>>106197925 (OP)
>Not a single article of clothing that requires hanging
I guess your Star Wars and MLP tshirts fold up in the dresser drawers.

>>106207612
>random cheap shit that runs on a platform openwrt doesn't have issues with
idk about that, will definitely choke under some light wireguard traffic

>>106207978
What I want to say is to look at the hardware and not the brand.
Going off just the brand can really fuck you over, glinet just released model based on ipq5000 for example.

>>106207352
>general networking
I know it’s on every page on their site. With my isp router I can access the web console UI. But I only want to use OpenWRT.
Where do general networking knowledge? I can already install gentoo.

>>106207358
Dang meant for >>106207351

>>106207351
sound like a simple coding project that a llm can likely write the bulk of for you, the hard part is properly finding a ok model that wont be to bashful to give you the truth and wont be to slow, i have played with gemma-3-27b-it-abliterated in llama.cpp and it might work to get some tags but it wont tell you everything and will take a long time.

>spend dozens of hours and hundreds of dollars optimizing my setup for maximum uptime
>forgot about the power outages
>can't even prepare for them (local OLT isn't even on a UPS)
What now? Do I build some retarded generator + solar + Starlink backup solution? Or do I just move for the sake of my servers?

>>106209094
>generator + solar + Starlink
Yea that could work
Make it kick in when your stuff is down
Or not even starlink, maybe some nig-rigged 4G sim modem enough to allow you to ssh and see what's going on

>>106209094
That will be enough for you to send an email to your smart phone and power the whole fucking thing off. Good luck keeping everything running off of some shitty generator. Maybe you could manage that with a small low-powered device like a Pi but most of your machines are likely to draw far too much power.

>>106208015
>With my isp router I can access the web console UI. But I only want to use OpenWRT.
Have you replaced your ISP router?

If you haven't and it's still in the picture then you are doing double NAT and that's bad. You should look for a bridge mode setting in your ISP router and then connect that to the OpenWRT router's WAN port. It will then get a proper public IP via DHCP and downstream clients should also get a private IP (separate and managed by OpenWRT) distributed to them on the LAN side.

If you still can't ping then it's a firewall issue.

>>106209735
>>106208015
This is assuming a cable modem scenario by the way. If you have an ONT box on your wall then you can simply plug the OpenWRT router directly into that.

Then you only have to figure out how your ISP authenticates (PPPoE or a special VLAN tag or DHCP or DHCP with some special VLAN tag sent in the DHCP request) and you should be good to go.

i have a couple of docker images on my raspi and i want my jellyfin to be reachable from outside of my home network. Is it better to run nginx on the raspi or in a separate docker container.
Or is it even better to run it inside the jellyfin container?

>>106209795
I always run Nginx directly on the host and not as a container. Plenty of people run stuff like Nginx proxy manager though so you can go that route if you want:
https://nginxproxymanager.com/

What fucking TLD am I supposed to use for my server?
Firefox accepts some Chrome accepts some other, both at least accepts .local but my resolver can't resolve it??? (I already configured dns)

>>106209915
.local is for multicast, don't use it for normal DNS.
.home.arpa is reserved for home use.
.internal is in the process of being reserved for local use.
Or you could just use a real domain

>>106209941
>.home.arpa
This doesn't seem to resolve properly either
>.internal
Chrome doesn't recognize this

This whole domain thing also reminds me, I use an adblocking dns server for my phone which means these custom domains will never be resolved on my phone.
Just fuck my shit up.

>>106207602
It's not UEFI and the rescue commandline can access the filesystem just fine.

>>106209941
>Or you could just use a real domain
This.
>>106209915
Get a real domain name then expose all of your internal services on *.internal.example.com

>>106210201
nah I ain't paying for local services

>>106210204
You probably want some services accessible externally anyway, at least I do. You can use that same domain name with everything hanging off of an *.internal subdomain for internal use.

>>106210210
No I use a VPN for that

At this point I kinda wish I could just use an IP instead. But one of the services refuses to be hosted behind a path.

>>106210229
If you're using a VPN then you really want your VPN server to be providing DNS and your phone, laptop, etc, using it as their resolver. Your custom internal services will never resolve properly otherwise.

>>106210289
Although this means you have to have your VPN server forwarding all traffic. If you want split DNS then good luck getting that to work properly on all clients.

>>106209750
NTA, but my ISP just authenticates via the ONT serial number and MAC address. So nothing needs to be configured on the customer's end such as pppoe or VLAN tags. Makes it so much easier to change out equipment.

Is there any reason to setup ACL's for a self-hosted TrueNAS when installing apps?

>>106202384
what board is that?

>>106210841
Not that anon, but it looks like an Odroid.

>>106209915
I might just use nextdns and its rewrite function instead.
Since I only need it for literally one device I might be able to get away with using the free plan.

>>106210877
I haven't checked them out in a while.
>see ODROID-H4 Ultra
>"ok CPU, 4 SATA ports, sweet!"
>look inside
>ASM1064B
disappointed.

>>106197925 (OP)
>Cheap disks:
Is this ever happening?
I have the hardware but the storage is 10 times more expensive than the hardware

>>106211419
Not in the era of massive datasets.

>>106211419
I think we'll revolutionise compression before we get cheap disks that have some kind of resiliency

Tailscale is ass!
Thank you for the attention on this matter!

>>106197925 (OP)
Do you faggots encrypt the OS drive of your homeserver?

>>106211799
yeh

>>106211653
how?

>still no affordable 8tb ssds
i just want a pocket nas bros

>>106211882
2x4 is kinda ok for price?
Or you could go full retard and do 12x 1tb microSD so you have a lot of redundancy. Doing a "pocket nas" is already silly, why not go sillier?

>>106211882
I just need an upgrade path for my 4 TB SSDs. I'm seriously thinking of getting a bifurcation card.

>>106211918
*affordable upgrade path I mean. It doesn't make economic sense to buy an 8 tb SSD with them being priced so stupid. I could make some raid with 4 TB drives though.

>rack servers at home
>2025
lmao, some people are stuck in 1999

>>106211946
It's sad really, the average poster on this board.
Might as well be interacting with chatgpt.

>>106211946
psi

>>106211978
which part is sad? The one where I acknowledge rack servers are a gigantic waste at home?

>>106211992
Is this PHP Neofetch? Lmao

>>106211946
How are those actually being mounted?

>>106211878
>need some other identity provider (choose between big tech or some business subscription shit)
>subnet routes refuse to show up in the backend, still can't access things on LAN
>performance between just a phone and home router is ass, things struggle to load, inconsistent ping
>if I hop from work WiFi to LTE and back to WiFi, nothing works until I disconnect and reconnect
This is so much worse then when I was using wireguard directly
I don't understand why my ISP is now using NG NAT

>>106212024
top one has vesa mount bracket. 4 screws and couple of strips of 3M VHB tape.
Bottom one has just 4 screws. Had to make holes in the bottom plastic shell and reinforce them with metal rings.
Fan on the top is held by 3m vhb. Bottom one only by zipties.

>>106212058
>I don't understand why my ISP is now using NG NAT
All ISPs are changing to CGNAT now.
My ISP now rolled new subscription for static IP address that will cost you 50$ a month, and that's behind CGNAT.
Someone posted here that his ISP actually prohibit self-hosting and should use their VPS instead.

>>106212109
>My ISP now rolled new subscription for static IP address that will cost you 50$ a month, and that's behind CGNAT.
Whose paying for that? A static IP behind CGNAT is useless. It just means instead of your hitting a dynamic pool of CGNAT servers you're hitting the same single CGNAT server.

>>106209735
>Have you replaced your ISP router?
I am trying to. It’s just not possible to get to the web UI when I only use OpenWRT and connect a Linux box to one of its two four port NICs.
>>106209750
Uh cable modem like coax? I have cat6 running outside. I don’t even know what the rest of your post is actually asking me. You both replied to my post where I was asking for sources to read so I can know more general things.
I’d really like this to just work because this is just the first hurdle to a larger setup involving 25 nvidia units and a large PoE switch.

>>106211359
Well, yeah. It's unfortunate but these chips are so heavily cut down that after you allocate some CPU lanes for USB, networking, bootdisk, etc. there's literally not enough connectivity leftover to attach a useful number of SATA ports without relying on a multiplexer chip.

It would be really nice if Intel or AMD would give us some CPUs with a ton of PCIe lanes + ECC support + a low-TDP design, but it's a perfect example of that old joke format of
>pick two
The EPYC4005 series is the closest you really get, and yeah some of those are rated at "only" 65W, but their idle power consumption is allegedly terrible making them not a great fit for a consumer NAS. And at the extreme ends of the spectrum you can only have a decent amount of RAM if you deploy some giant power-sucking monstrosity that can accept RDIMMs or these castrated N100 things meant for POS terminals, digital signage, etc. with no need for any kind of high-speed I/O.

>>106212267
>Uh cable modem like coax?
Yes. You're going to have to do some research into how people on your ISP use their own router (look on forums, etc) and then configure OpenWRT appropriately.

>>106211975
You should really build a 10" rack. You're a prime candidate. I need to get some shorter patch cables and I'm probably going to put some kind of m720/m920 in it so I can move opnsense off of my proxmox machine.

>>106212298
Just regular Intel desktop shit would be perfect
Intel CPUs can idle sub 10w.
It's just to take advantage you need a motherboard vendor to play ball on doing the two things they really hate doing.
One of those is giving you PCIe slots, and the other is making boards that are properly low power.

A Chinese vendor could probably do it but I think they are restricted on getting high end motherboard chipsets, you'd need a Z or W series as that is where lots of the lanes come from.

>>106212315
I haven’t used the coax since 2019. I do not use TV. That’s why I was so confused. Who in the world is using coax and trying to setup OpenWRT as their sole router in their lab/office?

>>106212584
Just search on Reddit or your ISPs forums if they have one. You will probably find someone that has walked this path before.

>>106212612
It’s ziply and I see mention of people using OpenWRT and mostly complaining about speeds.
So I’m just doing something wrong I guess.

I followed a guide to setup custom OAuth authentication using Authentik for the Portainer (application used in the guide).
When I attempt to login to Portainer I get correctly redirected to Authentik, I fill in the credentials, get redirected back to Portainer with an error message "Failed: Unauthorized".
I inspected the request in browser's Console and found the error message being: HTTP 401: "A valid authorization token is missing".
I checked the various URLs in Portainer Authentication, scopes, user identified. Nothing seems to be working.

>>106212454
>10"
I finally got mine printed out, and have started work on an hp mini as the heart, but man does it suck being poor and not being able to do all the purchasing all at once.

>>106206741
>throw an image and a csv at and have it Just Werk™ for tagging?
What do you mean by this? As in, the inputs are an image and a csv of the tags for that image, and it will be stored in the booru with those tags?
I imagine danbooru can be coaxed into doing that without too much difficulty.

>>106212990
yeah, precisely. I guess it's time for me to learn how to send http requests from a bash script.

How do I deal with lidarr downloading wrong versions of albums? Like a cappella versions, etc.
I've only added 3 artists and this has already happened 3 times.
The very first thing it downloaded was a drumless version of Random Access Memories.

>>106213329
How to deal lidarr actually working?

>>106213555
https://github.com/blampe/hearring-aid/

>>106206076
You can use tailscale or setup wg-easy on something. For them to connect you can use wgtunnel on android TV or get them a travel router. However some travel routers tend to overheat, and while most have wireguard support not all can use tailscale.

>Opnsense is easier to configure than openwrt
Who the fuck made up this lie?
Why the fuck did they make such a large sweeping change to DHCP and DNS management keep the legacy shit in the gui and then proceed to leave no actual information on that and how to navigate in the new settings?
Most of the guides are still using the legacy system and it's pretty much good fucking luck when in Luci all of the shit needed is laid out with sane UI.
This shit is fucking stupid and I'm at my wits end trying to setup Vlan on this fucking thing

>>106212744
Yeah I really want to rehouse my NAS and Gaming PC into sliger rackmount cases but I can't justify the expense right now

>nextcloud with external storage
>jellyfin box mounts external storage and points to media folder on it
new to home servers. is this stupid? i want to make a music streaming setup that friends/family can upload stuff to. im using proxmox

>>106214484
Nextcloud is fucking garbage use something better. I personally despise that fucking thing after spending a week trying to get it to work right without being overly opinionated garbage.

>>106214003
most WebGUIs suck balls. the abstraction layers often cause more problems than they solve. learn the CLI. sometimes it's the only way to truly know what's actually going on with your system.

>>106214602
I understand that but one faggot was pretending openwrt is a nightmare when it's pretty straightforward. I still don't see the purpose of using opnsense outside of a actual mid to large office setup

Anyone got 8TB WD RED plus drives?
How loud are they?
I wanna put them into a QNAP TR-004 and just attach to my PC for now, later to a minipc.
Are they too bad? I'm in a small room. I got WD blue 2T in my PC and never really hear it.

Is there any reason I shouldn't get these for my nas? I was going to get 5 ironwolf pro 20tb but they jumped up from 360 to 420 per. These are way cheaper and even bigger

>>106214900
>Anyone got 8TB WD RED plus drives?
Yes
>How loud are they?
Quieter than the 6x120mm Noctuas I have running in the server.
>Are they too bad?
They obviously get a bit louder under load but it's nothing compared to higher capacity drives, so while I wouldn't call them silent they're still relatively quiet. I can only hear mine when I'm standing right next to the server (less than 30cm ear to chassis) and hammering the array with read/writes.

>>106214484
There's nothing wrong with that. My nas is storage only, I mount locations from it to my main server that runs jellyfin, nextcloud and whatever else

>>106214574
What's the best alernative? Im mainly looking for Google photos alternative. I got it set up okay and it works fine. The auto photo picture backup works quite well but theyre not easily searched via words like google photos. id like something that can watch multiple directories if possible, not just limited to its own directory.

>>106214938
Are they generally louder during reads or writes?
For example my blues make absolutely no noise during read, but they do during high volume writes.
That is perfectly acceptable to me as I'm mostly going to read them once they are set.

>Quieter than the 6x120mm Noctuas I have running in the server.
That is also good to hear. Thanks.

>>106214921
Most likely used. No way to tell for how long/how hard due to SMART wipe.

>>106214975
Doesn't say that anywhere, still like the same priced as the referbed 20tb im returning. You can only get 2 max though so cant get these anyways. Hopefully the iron gate pros go back to 350 soon, I was hoping to build the new pool and rclone from the existing one before having to return then

>>106214961
I don't hear them making any louder noises during day to day use but when ZFS scrubs the pool yeah I do hear them when walking past the machine. Not nearly as bad as the 20TB ones I have in my PC however, those I can hear whenever I access them sometimes even through headphones.

I have an annoying problem. I turn my server off whenever I plan on being gone for multiple days. For whatever reasons, IPMI stops working after multiple days of not being on. I can still ping it, but I can't access the UI. I have to physically unplug the server and plug it back in, then it works. I can't figure out why this happens. Thoughts?

>>106214921
I made the big mistake of buying consumer drives for zfs. If you run zfs buy a Seagate Exos/Ironwolf Pro. Even if you don't use zfs Barracudas aren't meant to be used 24/7 like in a nas and will go bad faster than enterprise drives.

>>106197925 (OP)
where are the network autists at?
am i being retarded for looking at mgig switches for wifi7+ APs? the market for them fucking sucks
should i just stick with 1gig and not worry about it since wifi throughput is a meme anyway?

>>106215543
Exos drives are cheaper anyway (because of volume). I don't understand what the overpriced consumer drives are for. Who is the target audience for a consumer drive that costs more than a cheaper enterprise drive? Maybe it's worth it for smaller capacities but not when you're buying say 20 TB drives.

>>106215618
data hoarders with noise concerns maybe?

>>106215545
>Wifi throughput is a meme
Yes. It varies too much to be reliable, like with distance from the AP or if you have a wall in between and what material that wall is made of.
Design your network with 2.5 or 10Gbit throughput on the wire, depending on your needs. Your high throughput devices should all be connected by wire anyways. Then add an ap and you're only limited by the wifi.

>>106215618
True. It's probably marketing.
>>106215647
The noise of enterprise drives is completely negligible. I've never noticed significant noise increase over consumer drives.

>>106215675
It's not like you even need high throughput from a wireless access point anyway. I get 500 mb/s over WiFi on a good day and that's plenty. I've seen some autists say they "need more" because they're doing VR but most people aren't doing that.

>>106213829
is there something similar for roku or other smart tvs? Or a good place to look for it.

>>106215246
turn off ipmi
turn on WOL

>>106215246
all firmware (ipmi+bios) is up to date? some vendors have abysmal ipmi implementations (ASUS........)
>>106215675
alright im just not gonna stress about mgig then
i have wifi 6 aps right now and they are fine

>>106197925 (OP)
>>106211965
imagine the house fire

>>106216066
I imagine he has that assured with remote backups which he will use for a better setup
U mad?

>>106216088
Who the fuck has a backup house?

>>106216336
You don't stash some encrypted backups in cloud storage, at your folks' place, or a buddy's just in case the place burns down/gets struck by lightning/floods/[glow]nigger theft[confiscation]?

>>106216336
I've got another server in my parents house. You mad?
Also, there is smoke detector inside and main 16A relay that will automatically close if this ever happens. Not sure why it would happen tho. Most devices got their own relays with power monitoring so if there is any abnormal load, suggesting short, it would immediately close on it's own.

>>106216066
>>106216828
example relay I'm using (the little module on the bottom left), this one being 10A and wired over uart tho.H4MKJ

>>106212298
I do not need ECC support at my level, I just need a decent amount of pcie lanes, and low TDP - what is there?

>>106212467
>Z or W
W yes, but not Z. Although there is another, the C series which supports ECC.

>Just regular Intel desktop shit would be perfect
You're right. And it is an option, eg. using something like this:
https://www.asrockind.com/en-gb/IMB-X1231
Although it lacks IPMI, in a way that's good because it'll save you like 5-10W and for a home system you don't really need out-of-band management.
However, aside from memeing on the stupid i225 NIC the RAM is a genuine problem: like, 64GB is probably enough, yeah, but finding 2x 32GB ECC SODIMMs (that will work) is going to be annoying if not also very fucking expensive.

In an ideal world we would get something like the next-generation of Denverton:
https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/sku/97937/intel-atom-processor-c3558-8m-cache-up-to-2-20-ghz/specifications.html

I need the most efficient media server setup with the least amount of footprint. Is an m.2 to SATA adapter on my laptop with a PSU efficient for running my 120TB media server?

>>106217801
be more specific. For plex? Does it need to transcode? How does it connect to the storage?

>Buy first mikrotik product
>information for it leads to a 404 when looking through the wiki entry for it
>have to find some off the path way within the site to find documentation for the switch
>everything is outdated
Yeah fuck you I'm returning this bad enough you do things in the most backwards way possible and you don't have a consistent UX with each of your switches. Why the fuck should I bother with this mess?

I want an RSS feed that has cheap hardware deals. I need to bag 5 HDDs at a decent price

>>106206544
How energy efficient have you gotten your setup?

>>106218300
brocade more like bruhcade

>>106217801
>power efficient
>120TB
good luck anon

>>106215618
>Who is the target audience for a consumer drive that costs more than a cheaper enterprise drive?
The idea is the labels are meant to infer a use case. The relative normie who has other interests like photography and just wants a NAS is going to buy the NAS drive for the NAS.
Those people I understand, they ain't looking to penny pinch and just want what's gonna work, that's what the labels and marketing is for is to help consumers pick the right thing.

There are other people tho that are aware of pricing, who are aware that enterprise is rated higher than a NAS and will work perfectly fine but will still pay the premium.
I can only assume those people think the same as above but its more of a self satisfaction thing. They made the right decisions, the corporation that made them has their best interests and sensabilities in mind and its best to buy that product over anything else because its going to be the best for you.

It's something I noticed a lot with PC shit in general, nobody is excited or will buy anything until its encrusted with RGB and dumbed down for them because anything less implies its not built for them and they shouldn't touch it until its filtered trough their favourite Taiwanese hardware maker.
Companies more and more banking on this phenomenon everyday.
I know its a real phenomenon in business, just market something differently and you can charge 5x the price.

>>106218634
If it's mostly storage that is only accessed intermittently, ten 12TB drives (ballparking 5w idle apiece) is only like 50 watts. Even if it was twice that it's not a dealbreaker.

>>106218887
Why do you need to them to run that often, I stop at 16-20tb especially when you count the amount you need for raid and backup

>>106218887
I mean spending $2k on storage then penny pinching on electricity is kinda dumb. Deleting one drives worth of storage would net you years worth of electricity just in cost savings.
Idk if you actually need 120tb or not, but you need 12 12tb drives to get there. PSUs lose efficiency when you run at barely any draw so you have to factor in that overhead too. I think running a 12w laptop vs a 40w desktop is minimal compared to the annoyance of frankensteining a laptop into a server, you'll make up most of the other 28w in psu efficiency alone.

I just want a simple login page for my reverse proxied services do I have to set up an entire ass auth provider?

>>106218906
>>106219023
I'm not that anon. I'm with you guys that I don't need that much storage online at any given time. I'm just doing the math that it's not a massive fuckoff power hog having that much spinning rust [probably] mostly idling. Electricity is fairly cheap here and I wouldn't cry about it. It's different in other parts of the world.

>>106219081
you want a SSO or you want http basic auth? If you simply need a password on it then use http basic auth

>>106219259
SSO for the services so I don't have to log in to them manually

>>106214644
>no actual information on that and how to navigate in the new settings?
>Most of the guides are still using the legacy system
Yeah just like the non-existent resources after OpenWRT's DSA transition? You act like that's unique to OPNsense or any other software.
>when in Luci all of the shit needed is laid out with sane UI
LuCI is unreliable as fuck. As soon as you introduce extra services or construct moderately complex rules, you're back to CLI to confirm function or make configuration changes without tearing your hair out.

>>106214644
>pretending openwrt is a nightmare when it's pretty straightforward
I stated specifically that VLANs and traffic rules are worse to manage on OpenWRT, not that OpenWRT as a whole is a nightmare.
>I still don't see the purpose of using opnsense
If you don't want features like IDS/IPS/DPI and don't need to manage a lot of VLANs with a lot of rules, go back to OpenWRT then. Obviously OPNsense isn't for you.

>>106219558
first here portion was meant for this post
>>106214003

>>106219558
I said
>I still don't see the purpose of using opnsense outside of a actual mid to large office setup
Then you said
>If you don't want features like IDS/IPS/DPI and don't need to manage a lot of VLANs with a lot of rules, go back to OpenWRT then. Obviously OPNsense isn't for you.
Which basically is a mid to large office setup
Thank you for agreeing with me

>>106219646
Like I originally said and have said every time, it's easier for managing VLANs and rules that have some complexity.
>IDS/IPS/DPI
>a lot of rules
>Which basically is a mid to large office setup
Obviously you just have different needs from your networking, which is fine. You have your OpenWRT backup and configs right there ready to go.

im curious, if you have server that uses 300~400W, do you keep it on 24/7?

>>106217895
Through AM6B+
JELLYFIN
I have 2 laptops and two desktops

anyone running nginx container on a arm platform?

Newgen here, just got gifted a Iomega ixd-400d, how do I install debian on it?
Google wasn't helpful, I'm not sure how to make rootfs on it, I had the USB but after booting nothing happened.

>>106221057
Why would you want to?

Dealing with NGINX from a container is a pain in the ass

>>106215545
the main reason i'd even care about wifi6E+ APs, is all them sweet unoccupied channels. i don't really see myself ever needing to go above 1GbE. too many NICs and switches to worry about swapping out for no reason.

and no, the wire limiting the AP throughput does not trigger my autism.

>>106221659
>and no, the wire limiting the AP throughput does not trigger my autism.
Some of them build this limitation into them by themselves. It's really funny how many of these Wifi access points will advertise shit like headline multi-gigabit speeds.
>Did you put a bunch of multi-gigabit ports on it?
>No, of course you didn't so you can only ever achieve these headline speeds in the lab under ideal conditions
More expensive access points will include multiple 2.5 gigabit or 10-gigabit ports but it's not worth the premium in my opinion.

>>106221659
>all them sweet unoccupied channels
it's fucking retarded how in the UK the entire 5GHz band essentially gives you TWO unrestricted 80MHz channels (or four 40MHz channels). the rest of it is DFS territory, have fun trying to use that shit.

>try to set up authelia
>5 hours reading docs fiddling with yaml
>it's up, try the oauth login
>doesn't work
>forgot i'm using self signed cert and the containerized app probably didn't accept that
i'm so tired

>>106223244
have you considered allthenticate

I'd like to set up an external hard drive enclosure for backups, should I get an eSATA card to connect it to my desktop pc or is USB reliable enough? I've heard that USB is sensitive to being touched accidentally.There's no networking or raid going on, just a bunch of disks.
Also any recommandations for off the shelf enclosures? I've seen the Sabrent DS-SC5B / ICY BOX IB-3805-C31 shilled often but they only have UCB-C (which may or may not be a bad thing, please advise).

What's the ideal method for setting up a remote backup server? Just wireguard server on the remote machine and client on the main server? If I make the remote server a client on my main wireguard server can I access it from the main network? I'd idealy have the backup server tunnel back to my main network. Hopefully this is coherent.

>>106221789
>the rest of it is DFS territory, have fun trying to use that shit.
I've had no issues with DFS channels and I've been using them for almost a decade

Unless you live near a doppler radar installation, it shouldn't be a big deal.

>>106223460
good for you. i've had nothing but trouble with them and refuse to use them out of principle at this point.

>>106221659
>i don't really see myself ever needing to go above 1GbE. too many NICs and switches to worry about swapping out for no reason.
I thought the same, but then I got a 2gbit external connection, and discovered that, even for local connections, the difference between 1 and 2.5 is very noticeable.

Anyone using OpenCloud? Looks better than NextCloud but the docker compose file is all fucked up and seemingly changes often

>>106223788
90% of those clouds are out of scope in core functionality seafile seems to be the safest bet because everything is bloated
OpenCloud seems promising but is still to early to make a call and that docker compose file issue is one of the main reasons why I refuse to use it

>>106223568
You're the one acting like your experience is the default. I'm just providing another point of view.

>Headless windows server managed vid RDP
>Mainly file storage, plex and GoG installs from network
Am I likely to notice day to day the difference between 5400rpm and 7200rpm drives? I'm rarely actively looking at or waiting for the server. It lives in a window on my 2nd monitor. Beyond windows booting and startup is 7200rpm "worth it"?

>>106223887
No.
Most WD Red drives I had were 5400RPM and they worked fine for decades before they shat the bed.

>>106198254
I ran Jellyfin with a 7200u, and it worked pretty well. Only tested 2 concurrent streams tho. Make sure to enable HuC/GuC (wiki shows how). It significantly decreased CPU and iGPU usage.

>>106223887
>between 5400rpm and 7200rpm drives?
With booting? yes.
In general performance about 30% improvement, random read is 10 times faster though.

>>106224169
Thanks, booting isn't really an issue as I'm happy to wait. For 10x faster do you have a rough estimate of what this is in real values? 10ms? 10 seconds?

>>106224189
I tested with hdparm
>7200
124 MB/sec
>5400
66 MB/sec
NVME is about 700 MB/sec

>>106223788
nah, just webmin with the mdadm plugin

So what's so cursed about 10GBase-t SFP modules?
I've heard you shouldn't use them in NICs as they have a habit of drawing too much power but I'm getting a new NIC for my PC and 10gbase-t SFPs are apparently officially supported. The NIC in question I assume is just a regular Intel X550.

Ill be using fiber but I have a use for a 10Gbase-t SFP elsewhere but I just wonder if they would be reliable longterm, I don't expect 10 years out of one but I would like to know if they won't burn NICs out.
Or is it NIC specific where some handle it better than others?

>>106226258
older ones would draw 3.5-5W, newer ones should draw less than 3w.

pic related from the datasheet of my TP-Link TL-FM531 module.

Some people make sure to run a fan across the back of their router/switch to increase the airflow for SFP+ modules that get hot.

>>106226376
There are some that have low power operation modes that run at like 1.5W, and I know I saw one company was working on a module that was only 1.1W, but it's not released as far as I know.

>>106226376
>>106226258
Why use these if you're going to use RJ45?

>>106226691
Because 10GbE routers/switches are expensive

For example, Ubiquiti has an 8 port SFP+ switch for $270
Their 8 port 10GbE switch is $499

>>106226739
aren't heat dispersion better with the 10GbE

>>106226756
Yes, but with modern SFP+ 10GBase-T modules it isn't a huge deal.

The only reason to pay up for 10GbE native is if you have a LOT of 10GbE devices, or you need copper runs longer than 30 meters.


Also if you're really worried about power/heat, then wait for the new Realtek 10GbE PHYs which are less than 2watts per port.

If buying TODAY though i'd probably get SFP+ unless I had a large number of 10gbps devices I needed to have connected.

>>106227084
NTA, but how much of improvement does 10GbE offer?
I'm running sunshine/moonlight over WiFi 4

>>106227166
Over SFP+ 10GBase-T?

Pretty much just better heat dissipation and longer runs since 10GbE supports 100 meter runs but SFP+ 10GBase-T only supports 30 meter runs.

>>106218285
More efficient than a rackmount. Less efficient than a single server. Expect up to 15W per mini pc though it usually is less. And 30W for the storage server if you optimize and use an ITX board, assuming you have a bunch of drives.

It's very, very individual and depends on everything like CPU, amount of used DIMM slots, how many SSDs/HDDs, fans and if you use server-grade stuff. For example a mainboard with IPMI will draw 5-7W while turned off.

>>106206544
I never understood kubernetes and ansible
Am I stupid?

>>106227681
if you don't have like 10+ machines to run shit on you don't need these.

>>106227681
job security bloat

>>106227762
Can i do it with virtual machines?

>>106227668
>90 gb blockchain
what the fuck

>>106228479
less efficiently but yes

>>106228509
damn its bloated up a lot since the last time i used it
im assuming thats after pruning

>>106228614
Pruning? I've never dabbled with this before but I believe tech like this will be important going forward.

>>106228647
pruning removes unnecessary signature data to reduce size
i imagine without pruning it's 200gigs or more at this point
it's probably enabled by default because there's no downside to it

>>106199311
I use one, but all I'm using it for is a NAS (SFTP into it using Nemo) and an always-online Syncthing instance. CPU is rarely above idle. It's nice because I have a lithium ion UPS that I got off of Amazon powering it, and that thing can run it for like seven to ten hours during a blackout. The thing sips power.

>>106206694
whats your ISP speed? do you need a SWITCH for your NAS? usually you woudl already have a router for basic home internet even without a NAS.

If under 1gig, then plenty of cheap routers. If over gig, then you will need a 2.5gig router. TP-Link ER605 1 gig router. Old and proven. $60. With fiber being rolled out everywhere its totally not future proof.

If you have 2.5gig needs, then TP-Link Dual-Band BE360. $80. Has wifi but easy to turn off.

If you want to future proof, I have recently installed and love the Alta Labs Route 10. low power qualcomm based 10 gig router. Can get for $150. Really fast and low power and can easily route 10gig with a nice UI.

GL fren.

>>106214644
I too, got memed into thinking OPNsense was easy to install, get running.

I got it finally working, and due to sunk cost falacy, I'll probably never change but fuck me there is some learning curves.

Getting my x710-da2 to work at 10gig speeds properly, requires me to force update the (1) pic related variables after each and every update. If not I get cucked iperf3 speeds even if the values are the "same" after every update. The kernel for some capricious reason stealth resets them to cucked values. I've can prove this scientifically with iperf3 results by just changing the value, click apply, then change it back to the correct value, click apply and voila I get 10 gig speeds again.

I also had to add like 30+ tuneable values to uncuck the 10gig x710-da2 ports like pic in (2). Most are from reddit (sigh) and other tech bros figuring this out with trial and error.

If you point this out on their forums they just soi-post about do you REALLY need 10 gig routing, and the x710 is not a "mainstream card" or "you should buy a commercial grade router to get 10 gig routing" and not use a x710, blah, blah blah

If I had to go back, I would have just went OPENwrt, but I am pregnant now.

>>106211956
Awesome hardware ideas and setup but idk that these are getting much air and storing the electrical connections in the bottom drawer doesn't seem safe.

>>106228678
speaking of monero
rsync my blockchain at a pathethic 30mb/s so lets hope this lil nigga netcat doesn't corrupt my file

>>106224012
Agreed.
Running Truenas with (12) 4tb WD Reds in two vdevs of 6 drives each. 70k hours on each, running flawlessly. I can almost max out 8gig+ read write speeds on zf2 connection copying files across the HBA. No errors whatsoever, ever.

There is not a single investment in my life in ANYTHING I have ever gotten better value on than buying these drives 70,000 hours ago. Nothing. I think the WD red line walks on water based on my experience, and will defend them to the death on public mongolian crochet forums.

kinda less home server but more home lab/office: i need 3 combo power strip/surge protectors for some benches for my office that im going to be filling out soon. ideally theyd be single strips with ~4-6ft cords and US plugs, and 8+ us sockets on tthem with reasonable spacing for wall warts. do you guys have any recommendations? rack mounted ones wouldnt work, as these would either be atttached to desks or wall mounted. ive looked around in a couple B&M stores and theyre all garbage, and tthe stuff im finding on amazon is pretty mid so id only like to get those as a last resort.

>>106198388
That looks really nice

>>106229097
I bought 3 cyberpower sinewaves, the 1500v models. Love them to death. Already saved my ass 4 times.

>>106229044
why would netcat corrupt it? it's not like you're just shooting a packet stream without confirmation or anything, TCP is TCP whether you're using ssh or whatever else on top

>>106229325
shieeeet

>>106229237
Public service announcement but don't sleep on DC UPSs. I have an old cyberpower 1500 that would run my wifi router for like 2-3h max. I got some cheap DC backup UPS solution on Amazog that powers the router with direct current, not doing a loop de loop going from DC battery inverting to AC, then back to DC wall wart that the router actually runs on. Without the wasteful power conversion, this cheapshit DC UPS will power that fucking wifi router for damn near 24 hours.

>>106197925 (OP)
Anyone had luck updating their Debian servers with backported ZFS? The official docs say to remove any mentions of backports in the sources file, and delete any pins. Should I do that, then just add them back again after the upgrade?

>>106230602
I would assume you just need to reinstall fresh when upgrading major versions. there's a reason they offer long term support for old releases.

How hard is it to migrate a set of containers to another proxmox instance?

>>106197925 (OP)
I'm searching through some old disks for specific information while also archiving and reorganizing their general contents. I'll be starting out with laptop SSDs from the 2010s before moving onto HDDs from laptops and desktops from the late 1990s until the 2010s. I may end up having to sort though CDs, DVDs, floppy disks, flash drives, and USB external hard drives. I want to copy the data from these disks onto new disks, organize it, and delete redundant data.

In terms of hardware, what will allow for the easiest plug-and-play of various vintages of disk? Am I looking for some sort of NAS?

In terms of software, what tools should I be using?

My main computer currently is a ThinkPad T430 running Linux Mint MATE.

>>106198254
If you ban your users from using transcoding then you'll be fine.

>>106199311
Main problem with this is just that something breaking means the whole system goes down. It's pretty easy to fix an ATX computer with TrueNAS when something breaks, including just replacing the CPU, RAM and mobo. But if you aren't worried about it breaking AND it doesn't break then you don't need to care, right?

There's no "good" first NAS, btw, just buy something that can do what you're wanting to do. Most people started with an old computer they have lying around with some drives added.

>>106230654
Debian can be updated in place, it's just a little complicated to do properly if your setup is not basic (ie, runs backported ZFS).

>>106230602
I know the answer to this is yes, but are you sure it isn't easier to just do a fresh install and move your precious data onto the new volume?

If the answer is no, then the real answer to your original question is that you very clearly don't actually want an upgrade in the first place.

>>106231238
>In terms of hardware
for hardware, you're gonna need big hard disks, enough to hold all the contents of your previous storage media, and depending on that total, you may need 1 or more disks that you will want to connect to a motherboard via SATA.
then, you are going to need to get the data off the old media, and you will either need a piece of hardware that can read those drives. so for example, from the 1990s you may encounter IDE drives in which case you will need a bus adapter for that or hardware that can read that bus and transfer it to your computer with SATA drives attached.
now, you may choose to transfer that data from old devices media over the network to the new device, in which case you're going to need a network adapter in both.
>Am I looking for some sort of NAS?
Yeah now that you mention it, disks attached to a device with a network adapter would kinda be a NAS.
>In terms of software, what tools should I be using?
well, you can copy files using cp so I would start there, but you're probably going to need to be able to mount the filesystems if they are legacy so you might want to install the drivers for filesystems too.
hope this helps

>>106231407
My setup isn't _that_ complicated, but I'd prefer to not have to set it up again. I have backups of all the important data on my pool. Should I really just be reinstalling over upgrading?

>>106231407
This is what I was trying to imply >>106231537
>>106230654
I would

>>106231567
Is it that dangerous? Are you saying to reinstall because of ZFS specifically, or Debian in general? I'm confused because, from everything I've read, Debian should be fine upgrading as long as I follow the document upgrade procedure (which includes removing references to backports, etc).

Is the documentation wrong? I'm asking in good conscience, this NAS was my first introduction to Linux and I haven't had to version bump it yet. Though I will say that I am now very comfortable with Linux,

Anyone here running navidrome with proxy auth?
Whenever I set the proxy whitelist option (to the local IP) I cannot connect to it at all.

>>106223788
Do some research into why Nextcloud exists. Use Nextcloud, it's better.

Is there safe docker image for mine crypto?

>>106228808
>lithium ion UPS
Is this safe?

>>106232756
Just look for an official image or build your own

>>106231320
>just buy something that can do what you're wanting to do
Then why not get synology/qnap/asustor?
For first "NAS"/home server the two bay option is good starter point.
And their own software can give you remote access without port forwarding.

Is there a simple lighweight homepage that can be configured to require login?
Doesn't need to support multiple users just need to require one particular user to login through a proxy.

>>106232787
>synology
Locked down abandonware
With some ewaste pc at least you can install whatever you like

>>106234442
>Locked down abandonware
It's open source and you can install whatever snowflake OS you want though.

I didn't get any helpful answers in the other threads, so I'll try here.
I've a NAS with several media files, when I'm playing the file over LAN with mpv and it's HW decodable I still get high CPU usage on the machine, but if I transfer the file and play it locally it play fine.
Why is that?
Is there some network overhead that's being done on the CPU?

>>106234484
>The software is licensed to you, not sold to you. Subject to and conditioned upon your compliance with all terms and conditions set forth in this EULA
>Synology hereby grants you a limited, non-exclusive, personal license to: (a) install, run and use one copy of the Software on a single Product or on your device connected to the Product solely relating to your authorized use of the Product, and for such period specified in a term license, or perpetually if no term is specified;

>>106234484
>you can install whatever snowflake OS you want though

https://forum.doozan.com/read.php?2,138851

Smarter people than you tried to install Debian on a synology and failed, and that's far from a snowflake os.

>>106234565
You will own nothing and be happy

>>106234604
debian is the confluences of all snowflake OSs

>>106234484
>you shall not
>use the Software for any purpose other than that in connection with the Product
>disassemble or attempt to discover the source code
>create any derivative works of the Software
>attempt to circumvent any methods employed by Synology to control access to the components
Totally open source.

>>106234703
This is just honor system though.

>>106234635
You can seethe and shitpost all you want but you still cant install other operating systems on a Synology (even if you could, it's potentially 10x more complex and buggy than your run of the mill Hackintosh) therefore at least from this perspective any used pc is far superior.

Just take the L and move on.

>>106234765
What about other commercial NAS solutions?
>DIY NAS
Is not a valid options since in the end it cost the same as buying a NAS.

Are cheap refurbished second hand mini PCs safe?
Can they have rootkits or other weird stuff on them?
I'll put my own linux OS, but I'm wondering if they could have something malicious on them that might make it better to buy a new one instead?

>>106234878
safe how?
You gonna nuke the drive before using it.
Unless you mean alphabet agencies HW backdoor then there's nothing you can do anyway.

Currently running an older HP ex-office PC with an i5-6500. Using it both as a NAS and as a homelab (maybe half a dozen docker containers that mostly idle). Hoping to get some advice on the following:
1. It only has two drive slots and I'm running out of space. Would it be better to just build a new rig that is both a NAS+homelab like I currently have it, or to buy a seperate NAS enclosure?
2. If I should seperate the homelab and the NAS, would it be fine to keep jellyfin media on the NAS but use the seperate homelab to stream? Would a 1gb NIC be fine?
3. Again, if I should seperate the homelab and NAS, how would modern mini PC hardware be in comparison? Low power draw is appealing, given how little use the homelab really sees. Any particular recommendations for (new) mini PCs to look for that are available in Europe?

>>106234952
Maybe it has some well hidden malware from the previous owner and the seller doesn't know how to remove it first, or some malware that doesn't stay on the drive, but somewhere else.

>>106235061
The only way malware stay if you used the old OS or used drives without nuking the partition tables.
In theory someone can make malicious BIOS but that's too much of a hassle to actually do it, and can be mitigated with forced BIOS updated or libre core.

>>106198388
Is this custom, or what are you using for this?
It looks really nice.

>>106235292
https://github.com/glanceapp/glance/tree/v0.8.4

It's really light weight to the point I might migrate it to my dusty pi 3 and have that run with net kuma in the background. The only problem is I need a switch to come in the mail and I personally hate arm boards now after seeing how much of a scam they became in recent years

>>106211799
Absolutely. I hate it though. Played too hard with the encryption and the IOPS took a massive hit. I need to format, but I am too lazy.

>>106214003
Go raw FreeBSD/OpenBSD then. There are loads of tutorials on how to do things and BSDs are very consistent with their base systems.

Those small intel n100 for $100 have become quite popular, how strong are they? Could I run a NAS, Jellyfin and Windows VMs out of them?

>>106235577
I configured it and decided to cope because there are some nice bells and whistles. The documentation NEEDS to be updated if they decide to push dchp and dns handling to two different services that can step on each other's feet while keeping the legacy software stack in the ui which is a catastrophic failure from a UX perspective
>>106235680
Durability varies big time I would do a ton of research before buying one

>>106227681
Ansible is based, being able to script your install is very cool. Same with Terraform.
No one really needs K8s for self-hosting, it's just overkill. I do have a cluster but just because I work in data and it makes sense for studying.

>>106235697
Yeah, way back when I used pfsense they changed the UI and that resulted in a shitload of headaches. But I used it at work to service over 200+ so we ended up rolling back and staying in the pre-changes version for a while.
The old IT unspoken rule to never use the latest version with breaking changes remains valid.

>>106235909
just install it in vm and port the config file

>>106235950
This was over a decase ago, opnsense didn't even exist by then. What I mean is that we shouldn't update router OS willy-nilly.

>>106236040
I was unfortunate enough to encounter this on my first install, they migrated to dnsmasq and unbound to handle these things but the documentation is horrible and every online guide is for the legacy applications. It's really annoying from a new user perspective especially coming from openwrt where all of those settings are streamlined with luci

>>106234788
LOL pathetic.

>>106234788
>Is not a valid options since in the end it cost the same as buying a NAS.
not even close

>>106197925 (OP)
So what do you use for hostnames? For me it's
>oldolddesktop
>olddesktop
>newdesktop
etc.

>>106238176
test
test2
test3
dawojdaowidjadoiawjdaiowjdajowfijioaw

>>106238176
anything 4 or less letters, and if there's two of the same hardware then it's two letters followed by 01,02 etc

>>106238176
increasingly esoteric geometric references for deployments, short descriptive titles for test machines

If my entire workload consists of containers, is there any reason for me to use a Hypervisor like Proxmox to host a container VM, as opposed to running containers baremetal?

>>106239381
no

>>106236196
>>106237761
Say what you will, unless you know some website that sell those hardwares since pcpartpicker doesn't show anything like what you claim

>>106239381
Easier to keep backups, but otherwise not really.

What is the right way to do remote backups? I only have 1 house so I can't store remotes at a cottage or something like that which means I need to go to a cloud provider. Are there good services just for storing TB of data, or do you need to rent a server, add on storage and then set everything else up yourself and hope they don't cuck you when you do your upload?

also how much can you trust cloud providers in terms of security? do I need to encrypt my shit before uploading or can I free wheel it (i.e. google scanning your files and locking your account because of baby photos, pirated media, etc)

>>106239983
Offer to setup a home server for a tech illiterate, but trustworthy guy , he buys the bulk of the hardware, in exchange all he needs to do is let your backup storage server idle on his network.
If things work out, give him some freebie hand-me-downs a few years later to maintain the relationship.

>>106239546
Buying Synology is equivalent to hardware you can salvage out of a garbage dump, and the garbage hardware will still run a real OS

>>106240803
>not refuting his point

Is firewall really necessary

>>106234788
>cost the same
It costs the same and you're not locked into proprietary software?
Sounds like a win.

>>106240943
no, a firewall just prevents shit software from doing stuff that you can't control in the software itself

new thread >>106241060

set up a proxmox environment in my house last month and have been enjoying it. Reading through a textbook on it has been enlightening, and testing different setups has been pretty fun. I have a CS degree, was wondering if there are many jobs that would deal with this kind of work? Coming from webdev but I find this more fun so far. Would this be a sysadmin role kinda thing? I imagine I'd have to combine proxmox knowledge with some AWS stuff to get employable right?