Thread 106214382

How can we improve the average thread quality on 4chan without introducing votes and becoming reddit?

>>106214382 (OP)
Ban anime faggots
That's it

>>106214464
anime website.

>>106214382 (OP)
Better mods. Any real progress is incredibly hard without them. You can make better threads, but you won't get the general quality of replies up if you let non-arguments and shitstorms thrive.

>>106214382 (OP)
sex with children

>>106214382 (OP)
aggressive moderation
if you want something automated, filters that ban users if they make too many one-word replies; banning anti-semitic content (oy vey the goyim), bans when image hashes that have been reposted many times are detected. add wojaks to the hash bans. stuff like that.
[spoiler]truest answer: there is no way, outside of account creation and consistent moderation. and the account needs to be tied to something non-easily reproducible like a phone number.[/spoiler]
i would leave if they implemented account creation.

>>106214382 (OP)
Range ban Australia, India, and Russia.

>>106214382 (OP)
I think we need to post more loli to make it less attractive for normalfags.
Unironically. This will drive away all /pol/ fags and techlets posting in flamewar threads.

>>106214540
>Unironically. This will drive away all /pol/ fags
oh you sweet summer child

>>106214517
This. The mods we have right now take forever to react to actually illegal content and I can't remember the last time I saw obvious flamewar shit get deleted before hitting 200+ replies, it certainly wasn't this decade. What the fuck kind of chance do people even dream of having of fixing this board or website with moderation like that?
Also don't forget the site got pwned with an exploit likely older than significant parts of the userbase. Just move on, it's over and worst of all it's never coming back.

mandatory accounts for one
being able to hide an account from a thread would instantly improve things

having less gross out porn posted on catalog would be fucking neato, please implement that feature moot

>>106214517
you get what you pay for. 4chan has minimal revenue, because they rely on ads which are easily defeated by anyone who isn't a Chrome cuck.

>>106214382 (OP)
range ban america, it would be funny as hell.

>>106214382 (OP)
Pseudonymity using IPs to block users, essentially it allows automated filters for users. Policing wrongthink is what would kill the site, but giving users more control over what content and users they see would help a lot. Sure there's ban evasion and user self-modding creates a worse hugbox/echo chamber situation, but the only other option is to pay the jannies double.
>from becoming reddit
>mods
>moderation
>spoilers
All the faggots using this terminology need to go back.

>>106214530
very cute doll i would buy it

>>106214517
>>106214559
Deleting flamewar threads is not enough. I'm already tuning them out anyways. If better moderation is the solution then the mods would have to evaluate every single reply on every post and decide if it's a worthwhile contribution. This is basically impossible.
>>106214565
>>106214532
how would accounts solve this? people would just call themselves gay retard and continue making low quality threads.

>>106214681
>how would accounts solve this?
you can ban an account
even better if the account is visible to the userbase, you can filter/block specific posters
you have to tie the account to something like a phone number or a credit card to make it stick, though.

>>106214681
>Deleting flamewar threads is not enough.
Of course not, but they can't even get that done so what's the point? You don't need to moderate every post but when twitter screensharts and not even faintly tech related e-celebrity cancer gets to stay up 99.99% of the time you don't have moderation, you have /b/ with extra steps.

>>106214667
>pay the jannies double.
kek

>>106214530
Can you explain how having sex with children will improve the average thread quality on 4chan?

tripfagging should be encouraged, not discouraged

>>106214382 (OP)
Create better threads and stop responding to shit threads.
Also accept that boards like /g/ and /v/ may be shit because they are about shit themes like modern hardware that is basically apple shit all around or modern video games that are just american souless crap.

Ban evasion has become far too easy. As long as posting from that one website (you know the one) is possible 4chan cannot become better.

>>106214382 (OP)
More robust duplicate content detection, mandatory reading comprehension tests, more word filters, and region-blocking all countries outside the anglosphere.

>>106214698
Personal identification will also kill this site. The majority of the userbase uses 4chan specifically because there aren't accounts. It should always be end user control.
This has to be a plebbit troll thread or maybe even xitters posters, but this type of policing is only for corporations that are trying to control image for brand's sake. What don't you understand about free flow of information?

>>106214540
/pol/skins and other brownoids love loli

>>106214540
I do this. Especially when my reply is lengthy. I find that those complaining about lolis and anime in general are exactly the kind that are lacking in other areas as well and would be a better fit
>>106214681
>If better moderation is the solution then the mods would have to evaluate every single reply on every post and decide if it's a worthwhile contribution.
elsewhere.
The point is that you need mods that understand the sentiment of the board and enforce that. The rules aren't enough, even if they were followed to the letter.

>>106214743
free flow of information results in low post quality.
people will never remember what early internet was like when you had to make an effort to get online. BBS was the gold standard. now indians and africans have broadband access. it has been a disaster for the internet and the human race.

>>106214716
it'll just make the whole world better.
also then I can spend more time bonding with my niece than posting on 4chan.

ban phoneposters

>>106214716
physical intimacy breeds goodwill, and there is a serious lack of goodwill on this site

>>106214728
We should make it a thing in real life again too. Tripfags could wear a yellow star.

>>106214716
Maybe he agrees with >>106214540
>>106214740
Post quality has already gone down way before this became a thing.
>>106214698
I suppose when combined with aggressive moderation it could work. But it wouldn't really be 4chan anymore, would it?

>>106214741
>mandatory reading comprehension tests
this would filter a big percentage of the schizos, I like this measure

>>106214740
that site is unironically the only reason I post here anymore
when the mods leave that cp spammer be but give you a three day global ban for racism outside of /b/ for saying currynigger once in a almost 2k character post let's just say you get exactly the post quality you fucking deserve

>>106214777
End user control can allow you to ban posters from certain countries by IP, if you so desire. It's also highly unlikely that account creation would limit the removal of posts from those groups. Pseudonyms IDs tied to IPs (the same way jannies ban) with click to block in the same manner as "Hide Post" but filtering across the entire or board site would be enough.

>>106214772
>The point is that you need mods that understand the sentiment of the board and enforce that
so how did we get here? Why are the mods so shit?
>>106214751
I don't think that's true.

>>106214382 (OP)
>thread requires improvement
OP is a tranny nigger faggot.
>improvement complete

>>106214838
Ironically the schizos have the higher reading comprehension.

>>106214740
ban evasion is seriously NOT why the site is bad at all

>>106214382 (OP)
*smooch*

>>106214879
>so how did we get here
A very good question. You probably can't, because there is an inherent interest in keeping the mods as they are. Anger breeds engagement and all that. The solution would be to make a new site and install the right mods, and make sure they continue to be right. Something something eternal vigilance.

>>106214838
Yes. Extracts should be 5-15 paragraphs long, and randomly selected from texts in the following categories on Project Gutenberg:

1. https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/bookshelf/654

2. https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/bookshelf/653

3. https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/bookshelf/659

4. https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/bookshelf/671

5. https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/bookshelf/691

>>106214866
we already have IDs on certain boards.
we just need to implement them sitewide, and add an option to ban that ID. make it consistent across threads as well.
you'll still have retards clearing the cache, waiting 120s and returning to their bait faggotry, but it would put the onus on them to work against the system.

>>106214883
No. Most just copy and paste content without fully understanding what it is. Happens constantly on /lit/, /his/ and /sci/.

This thread glows so goddamn hard

>>106214909
There are many altchans. Some of them probably have better moderation.
For some reason I'm still here though, I wonder why.

>>106214968
>This thread
>thread
This entire board is getting flooded with pro ID bots because they know they're losing control of the narrative.

>>106214924
>but it would put the onus on them to work against the system
You mean like captcha that was implemented because it would stop spam? Or the new captcha that actually stopped spam for ~48 hours until captcha solving services also offered the new captcha? You can implement mandatory government ID and it wouldn't improve post quality one fucking bit.

>>106214464
Where do you think you are?

>>106214985
I really need to get off here and go to altchans
I mean to be fair I do already but because of the speed of here it's hard not to come back in the downtime between waiting for other places to get replies.
Not only that but there ain't many different discussions going on on other places at all
if it isn't a board where everyone is just in one thread using it as a chatroom, then it's a very slow pph board

>>106215034
altchans are too slow. i come here to get my social interaction.
i just wish that social interaction was of a higher quality. you can only get called a retard niggerfaggot so many times before it starts to wear you down.

>>106214999
The end user would have the ability, so not knowing what the userbase is blocking should drop thread engagement or (you) farming.

>>106214532
>banning anti-semitic content
>leave all other forms of racism as they are
i wonder who could be behind this post

What are the best altchans right now?

>>106215120
>also shills for accounts and ID
Yeah a true mystery.

>>106214838
>copy/paste text + answers into ChatGPT
>posting now takes whole 15 seconds longer

>>106214985
>There are many altchans
How many that aren't completely dead?

>>106214382 (OP)
As one other anon suggested, giving users the ability to filter for ip ranges would make heaps of difference
We all know which subcontinent

if social media has more than 100 uniqur posters per day it's going to be shit. there are no exceptions. moderation only makes it worse.

the solution is to split one community into several ones until numbers of active users per community drop significantly.
instead of one /g/ there should be /tech/, /programming/, /ai/ etc

>>106214382 (OP)
New jannies and mods that aren't pedophiles

>>106215146
Lain is the only decent one.

>>106215120
NTA, but the kind of anti-Jewish posting typical of /pol/yps (e.g. Blaming them for literally everything wrong in the world / your life, going on retarded religious tirades, or doing agitprop dumps) is wildly different from other varieties of racialist sentiment here. It is often straight up spamming and flooding, leaks onto other boards, and frequently derails otherwise usable threads into off-topic shitfests. Racialism should not be a bannable offense, but spamming, instigating flamewars, and repeatedly posting off-topic nonsense already are.

>>106215313
Is there any actual proof that indians are prevalent on 4chan? I kind of doubt it. There is no reason for them to post here.

>>106215367
Dunno about here, but they're pretty sizeable on reddit, with predictable post quality
Especially where India/Pakistan is concerned, they're so rabidly nationalistic that it's almost like a parody

>>106214382 (OP)
4chan needs a shared identity again
This board used to have projects and quality because at least 70% of the users thought of themselves as a /g/ user, just fighting for what /g/ really means or should support

Now everyone seems to hate the place and instead declare themselves as separate groups
And every group declare themselves against the moderation, which in turn makes the moderation also hate the board

Can't we just accept we are all outcasts and rebels, even if we use different programming languages or follow different ideologies? That a /g/ project is a /g/ project doesn't matter if it's anime-themed, frog-themed, or whatever themed?

>>106214464
anime website, deal with it

>>106214532
>bans when image hashes that have been reposted many times
No.

>>106214532
they need to start adding wordfilters again to kill shit like the retards spamming tranny and its variatons 24/7

>>106215282
You're assuming that an ESL mud person would even know what to ask the AI. Tests would be graduate school level, and revolve around English literature, the sciences, history, and philosophy. Questions would necessitate high level abstract thinking and critical reasoning skills, with no clear right or wrong answers. Answers will also be reviewed by Janitors with advanced degrees from accredited universities, and they will be paid $45/hr to do so. I have already spoken with GookMoot about this and it's in the works. Get ready.

>>106214532
the new rule blocking /soc/ shit from /b/ was a huge move in the right direction, we need more things like that happening

Enhance the cunny posting.

>>106214570
>he fell for people saying that chrome removed adblockers
youcan just turn it back on with chrome doing nothing to stop you lmao

>>106215483
>Janitors with advanced degrees
>and they will be paid

>>106215483
>English literature
Motherfucker no, I don't want to read Jane Austen to post on this damn website. Same for some random philosophical drivel for that matter

>>106215448
>t. wojakfag mad at the potential for wojakspam being blocked

>>106215442
hard to reverse a decade of division

>>106215346
>lainchan
Are there any oldfags there? I feel like 90% of the posters there are teenagers who have just watched the show.

>>106214382 (OP)
4chan has a big problem with resident schizos. A general that lasts long enough will accumulate them.
Right now the report function only allows reporting one post at a time, which is unsuitable when the troll is not exactly spamming the N word but is deliberately shitting up the thread consistently for months.
>>106215442
/g/ is /dmp/
/dmp/ is /g/
We only ask one thing: the schizo needs to be b&!

>>106215529
It's the only way to heal the site, otherwise you just keep creating more and more splits

controversial opinion: IDs (but not flags, to prevent /pol/-tier identity politics retardation getting even further) should be enabled on all boards

>>106215442
what is the use-case for a giant bionic tail

>>106215491
i'm 90% certain that was to stop /b/ from being use as a hub to trade child porn on those apps.

>>106215512
You're going to be reading a lot more than Jane Austen, pal.

>>106215511
They're going to be top notch, and we're going to make redditors pay their wages.

>>106215555
would be interesting to see the result of all the "random" boards that got split off of /b/ merged back into one single board

>>106215577
that doesn't change the fact that it should have been done a VERY long time ago instead of being left for years

I have a theory that if you were to shut down reddit, discord and other shitlib congregation sites, the post quality would go up here. It would also get normalfags off the internet for a while.

>>106215538
The average poster there is 39 years old.

>>106215558
>identity politics is /pol/
you're an election tourist
/pol/ belongs here and you don't

>>106215507
i can't even turn it on

>>106215442
>Can't we just accept we are all outcasts and rebels, even if we use different programming languages or follow different ideologies?
only possible if we get rid of the retards
>>106215560
use it for balance and as a third leg like kangaroos do
>>106215584
this is basically what happened during this year's april fool's, and it was glorious. For a day, /b/ was back to its old self. btards tried to keep it going with "pipes" linking quality threads, but it fizzled out.

>>106215598
Refugees flocking to 4chan would cause post quality to go up.

>>106215607
>identity politics is /pol/
It is.

>you're an election tourist
But that's the demographic of /pol/, you retard.

>/pol/ belongs here and you don't
Says the election tourist.

>>106215605
I find that hard to believe. Source?

>>106215619
i was one of the people making pipes

>>106215619
Who decides who's a retard or not?
If we keep getting rid of people, the board will be more empty and more hostile

>>106215627
yes that's what it looks like on my Brave as well.

>>106215643
>If we keep getting rid of people, the board will be more empty and more hostile
Literally the opposite is true. No more than 1000 unique IPs should be allowed to post on any board within a 24 hour period.

>>106215598
did you forget about the result of the containment breach caused by tumblr trying to kill itself and the reddit invasion of 2016?

>>106215670
I doubt there's 1000 unique IPs on current /g/

>>106214382 (OP)
Range ban second and third world countries.
This removes at least 95% of bad posts.

a major source of the site being shit up is Leto allowing all the site's worst posters free access to ban evasion, we need to keep targetiing him and getting his shit taken down

>>106214382 (OP)
Rangeban india

>>106215681
>tumblr containment breach
This was proven to be a false flag orchestrated by former GNAA members. The architect of the operation is actually dead now.

>the reddit invasion of 2016
It was a whole lot more than reddit that flooded in.

>>106215681
>did you forget about the result of the containment breach
The tumblrettes that used to come here way back are better than most average posters. Sure they wrote like they were writing a novel but i still prefer them over what we have now

>>106215709
how did they convince tumblr to nearly kill itself by trying to ban porn?

>>106215709
basically every community except 4chan reflexively kicked out alt-righters and trump boosters
and they all. came. here.

BAN ALL ANIME LOLI PEDOPHILES
>this is an anime website
and twitter used to be a sjw woke hellzone. websites and demographics change.

the fact is, loli is disgusting and regular well-adjusted people with social lives do not want to see cartoon cp when discussing technology

>>106215692 (me)
I just looked up the first-world countries.
I am retarded, I meant to say to ban all the countries not in the western world.

>>106215709
the redditfags were the most prominent of all those groups, and are also dfirectly responsible for other retarded groups coming in after

>>106215643
>If we keep getting rid of people, the board will be more empty and more hostile
If anything, removing retards will make it less hostile. And of course it will be more empty. That's a good thing.

>>106215747
>regular well-adjusted people with social lives
What do those people have to do with 4chan?

>>106215725
I thought you were referring to the tumblr containment breach circa 2012.

>>106215747
idk why you wouldn't want to see this

>>106215747
>regular well-adjusted people with social lives
where the fuck do you think you are?

Reopen /l/

>>106215747
The fact you see anime and loli here its because this is, in fact, an anime and lolicon website. The lolikon board was dissolved because it merged with the whole website.

>>106215810
>site was originally for anime
>/g/ sticky has anime character (cute girl)
>site mascot is an anime character (cute girl)
people who claim it's not an anime website are just antis and can be safely ignored. let them have their safe spaces. /pol/ and /tv/ are fairly hostile to anime. go there.

bring back use of wordfilters

>>106214538
this but include israel, japan, and korea. the latter 2 because its just english teaching faggots and no real nips or gooks

/ai/ board to quell the non-stop AI spam bare minimum.

I've been reading r/OpenAI these past couple days and most of their users (especially the OP's) are more intelligent and involved than /g/ users at this point. This place is a cesspit for the uneducated and untalented.

>>106214382 (OP)
mods that care about the subject of a particular board
it actually happened with /vt/, with an alternate board being created during the last period that 4chan went offline
agressive moderation meant that retards could not shit it up

>>106214382 (OP)
>lpi, itwq

>>106215747
>regular well-adjusted people with social lives do not want to see cartoon cp when discussing technology
I know this is bait, but 4chan will probably never be a place that attracts people who are both intelligent and well-adjusted. So all that banning loli would achieve is more tech illiterate normalfags making their dumbass posts.

>>106215832
>are just antis
lolicons have coined a new term to describe being "anti pedophilia"

you CANNOT make this up

>>106215856
>redditor thinks redditors are smart, more at 11

>>106214382 (OP)
Rangeban India and Israel

>>106215932
A lot of AI were trained on reddit content.

>>106214464
>>105076689

>>106215915
>posting ugly wojak thumbnails

>>106215959
no wonder most AI are so insufferable and condescending.

letting /pol/ return was moot's biggest mistake

>>106214382 (OP)
bump order is too barebones. maybe the second time a thread is bumped it goes to 2nd place, the third time it's bumped it goes to 3rd place, etc.
also i think OP should have more control over his own thread. maybe he can hide(as in minimize, not delete) off topic responses to his thread.
OP should be able to tag his thread when he creates it. Using a tag system people would be better able to filter for what they do and don't like. I think sometimes tags can be too expansive(see tags on booru websites), and since we have topical boards anyway, maybe each board(the mods/website owners) can come up with a curated tag list for posters to choose from when creating a thread.
Of course anonymity should be preserved at all costs, intra and inter thread.
Looking at apps like chance and kuroba, and the extension 4chan x, there are some very obvious quality of life changes that 4chan could make which may even attract or retain users who themselves value quality and thus make quality posts.

So how will the preds going to do when they actually start going after and prosecuting people for posting loli? This will inevitably happen sometime in the near future after mandatory id checks are implemented worldwide.
>>106215999
Moot was a pedophile and a faggot

>>106215839
CANDY-ASS and ROODY-POO complete with coloring.

>>106216025
stroke out but everything I've said is valid

>>106216025
maybe i'm misremembering but didn't it get ruled to not be CP in america?

>>106214382 (OP)
a few:
>rangeban israel and india
>remove /pol/, literally just spam outside of circlejerk generals
>get rid of rapeape and his crew
>migrate 4chan to imageboard software that is actually maintained
of course none of this will ever happen because this site will probably go down within the next year, maybe two.
>>106214728
kys
>>106215346
lain is ok but slow.
>>106215747
trvke, loli is gross as fuck, lolifags can go to 7ch or some other board.
>>106216025
ironically this is the only time i agree with lolitards in that "moralfags" are almost always worse in the long run. you have literal groomers everywhere else on the internet and real life and your sperging out over literal whos on 4cuck?

>>106216087
add on the removal of /soc/ and /gif/

>>106214517
The site mods tell the jannies not to do anything so nothing will get done regardless of the janny quality or efforts.

>>106216087
cygnus is cool

too many redditors here. posting cartoon drawings are core /g/

/g/'s competence with technology has drastically fallen

>>106214382 (OP)
I try to be the change I want to see on 4chan

>>106216023
All really cool ideas. I would minimize a bunch of posts in this thread already if that was an actual feature. Of course if it were to become a thing, it should be possible to toggle it off.

I was thinking that since hiromoot and the mods will obviously never implement anything like this, maybe it'd be possible to build a userscript or alternative frontend for 4chan that implements these features for anyone using it? It would require a central server, but I don't see any technical issues with this. You could even have an entirely separate mod team responsible for moderating posts that are shown while the extension is active.

I don't know any examples of anyone building a system like this on top of an already existing social media platform, but it would be interesting to try. This would sidestep the issue of altchans being slow as you could adjust the speed as you please, at the cost of quality.

>>106216152
>implying

Replace the word "tranny" with otokonoko.

>>106216152
people with intelligence and semi-normal social adaptation went elsewhere.
i'm here not because the posting quality is good (it's bad) but because i don't need an account and i would prefer to post whatever i wish without wondering how that might color me socially.
other people as always are the problem, here i am accountable to no one except the mods and jannies. and they don't talk to me; they don't even exist afaik.

smoke way more weed, maybe a little crack as a treat

>>106216185
hiro hasn't posted in over 5 years, it took the site getting hack for him to even remember

>>106214517
The problem is the majority of the ones that will do it for free are those that should never be put in a position of authority and/or turdies with an agenda.
And any paid position will be flooded by turdies trying to make a quick buck.

The problem gets even worse with janitors, mainly because they aren't controled hard enough from above, and sometimes seem to not report stuff to higher moderation when it suits them.

>>106214741
>mandatory reading comprehension tests
For jannies too.
I am not at all salty about getting banned and having to appeal, twice, because some jannies don't understand basic English and thought i was admitting to being underage when it should have been obvious from the context that was not the case.

>>106214741
>region-blocking all countries outside the anglosphere.
I would be happy with the usual major shitholes, Serbia, Turkey, Romania, Hungary, Russia and the former Soviet -istan countries.
Would also go a long way in blocking the more common sources of proxies, vpn providers not big enough to get quickly flagged as vpns and banned, and some of whatever old IoT botnets are still used for proxies.
Add in Israel and India/Pakistand for good measure.

>>106215367
>>106215425
They sure shit up /k/ every time the annual shitflinging contest between India/Pakistan or India/China kicks off.

>>106216183
should also filter BBC and derivatives to British Broadcasting Corporation

>>106216210
that would not surprise me.

>>106216226
fully serious, look at the archives

Sneed

>>106215849
this but unironically. make it a /v/ subsidiary like the rest of the containment boards too

>>106216106
>>106216224
agreed, also sound for webms/mp4s.
>>106216122
qrd?
>>106216152
blame generals for wrecking this board.
>>106216185
this

>>106214382 (OP)
Make threads stop bumping after 100 posts/50 images, ban all archive crawlers, ban all general threads. Set post cooldown to 10 sec max on all boards.

It will be pure chaos for like a week, then people will get tired of it and start making better posts. See if you set up the board to encourage fast posting, the only way to truly stand out from 24/7 shitposting is to make better posts. Right now we have the reverse, 4chan is trying to push longer posts and longer discussions and all it does is create nonstop garbage generals that stay up for far too long.

>>106214382 (OP)
fuck you janny, you cannot stop me
sex with children

>>106216087
>trvke, loli is gross as fuck, lolifags can go to 7ch or some other board.
lolicons are a force of good. you don't have to be into it to see that.
>remove /pol/, literally just spam outside of circlejerk generals
No. That would only make every other board worse.

>>106214382 (OP)
Block mobile browser useragents

4chan has always been a anthro website, tranime fags can't do shit btw

>>106216335
anon the post above you is a lolifag wanting to have sex with kids
>No. That would only make every other board worse.
not really, most /pol/cacas will go to twitter or 8moe (if they aren't already a paid shill geg).

>>106214785
>>106216344
Out of all "ban X" proposals itt, banning phoneposters really is the only thing that I could see improving 4chan.

>>106216381
>anon the post above you is a lolifag wanting to have sex with kids
necessary evil.
>most /pol/cacas will go to twitter or 8moe (if they aren't already a paid shill geg)
debatable. They could choose any other board like /b/ or /bant/ where it's okay to discuss politics.

>>106216381
i guarantee you /pol/ would just migrate to other boards and make it obnoxious as fuck. we already have /pol/ leakage. /tv/ is the most obvious example, but they are everywhere in some number.
/pol/ at least keeps the majority contained.

>>106216282
cygnus is who to talk to if you get in trouble with the mods, helped me get rid of an unfair permban

>>106216087
loli seems to be quite good at gatekeeping normalfags, trannies, and filthy liberals, as well as the less savoury MAGA people.

>>106216421
more likely /pol/tards fuck off to 8kun, not 8moe, especially with 8kun trying to larp as old 8ch*n

I'm a cunnyloving, engineering, racist, white man. /g/ is fine if low effort garbage gets sniped.

>>106214382 (OP)
There really isn’t much that atomized anonymous individuals can do to improve this place. It would only occur if it became a closed off community governed by people capable of taking responsibility to act maturely and have high quality discussions or is some new cultural or religious movement emerged the got people to behave themselves while online and care about the quality of the commons that is internet spaces like these.

>>106216362
hi airwindows

>>106216460
I don't think they will go there. Not enough people to annoy.

>>106216466
>I'm a cunnyloving, engineering, racist, white man.
based

>>106215887
> both intelligent and well-adjusted
No such thing, being intelligent makes you a freak

>ITT: 4cucks all wishing they had reddit jannie powers
Sad!

>>106214382 (OP)
Add ids to every thread.

>>106214382 (OP)
Let Pass owners delete posts but have their posts be undeletable.

>>106214382 (OP)
kiddie sex

Ban the rat poster.

>>106216666
checked.

I think it's a chicken+egg scenario at this point. Traffic keeps going down and the site is too broke to make any major adjustments. Endless culture war bait just gets tiring and non-dumbasses move on.

>>106216666
>>106216692
settle down fellas

>>106214382 (OP)
Fascinating question, let's break it down. It's actually relatively easy even for a student if you are not outsourcing your thinking to some llm:
1. Content filtering. This is the most fundamental problem on the internet today, and it's easily solvable when the thread page and catalog are static. Twitter or Youtube will never be able to achieve convenience of an imageboard in 2025(unless the imageboard engine in question is too gae).
So what to filter? Most bots and shills do not post images, and what they need is a conversation chain, they often argue with themselves or with other users, their posts typically are an answer to some other post within the thread that is not an op-post.
For the absolute majority of feds(and therefore bots) copyright infringement is not allowed. Typically they can't post anime, their agenda is to brainwash you into hating something like anime and posting frogs and wojaks instead.
Given that, allow people to hide all posts that could potentially be bots/shills, assume user is a bot until proven otherwise, so hide everything except for posts that are:
- an answer to op-post
- not an answer to anything, so basically an answer to op-post again
- have an image, regardless if it's an answer to anything
- have a username, a tripcode(unironically yes, like it or not, but with shills and bots, 2025 4chan wisdow is backwards, its reddit without karma)

You will end up with informative and very small threads(as of now). Can be implemented client-side or server-side

2. Fad ban with a neural network. The idea is to ban everything that is a fad, trendy right now. No, it's not banning discource of particular political topic completely, it's allowed to discuss as soon as the dust has settled.
Should be client side, server side is more of an opportunity for some unknown altchan, 4chan will just lose traffic like that. Server side fad ban would imply an easily accessible list of topics that are currently too popular

>>106216490
8moe has actual moderation

>>106215331
This but the opposite. We have too many non-pedo mods and jannies
4chan used to work when 90% of the staff were Loli posters

kiddie cunny

>>106214382 (OP)
Range ban India & Israel

>>106216697
from what I've seen, traffic is slowing on most social media platforms. And some 50% of internet traffic is just bots now.

- delete /pol/ (or at least put it on a an other site, like 4chan.org and 4channel.org back then)
- ban or replace the words: "jew", "tranny", "nigger"

PROBLEM SOLVED !!!

>>106215442
because everyone instantly doxes on another the moment someone calls someone else a fucking retard

>>106216793
>t. jewish nigger tranny
you're not getting your way

>>106216758
>>106216793
>>106216772
Kill yourself you fucking freaks

>>106216834
>>106216846
(You) are the reason this site sucks DESU DESU DESU

>>106214540
yes

>>106216846
I don't understand the meme here?
Both top and bottom have pedophiles leading.

>>106216722
>For the absolute majority of feds(and therefore bots) copyright infringement is not allowed
anon feds literally distribute cp in their honeypots

also, why the fuck would you start your reply like an llm?

>>106215915
Actually shartyfag, "anti" comes from shipping discourse.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shipping_discourse
Originally was used by women fighting over agegap BL yaoi fanfics, loliniggers started using the term because they kept getting flamed by similar people on Twitter. Anime-themed culture war grifters like Rev_says_desu took this and ran with it so anti is also used to describe people who don't like lolicon.

>>106214382 (OP)
Ban AI threads. Nobody gives a fuck anymore, and the posters are just shills for meta.

>>106216867
LOL

>>106216087
this

>>106214382 (OP)
Mods are normalfags. Back in the day they'd pos cp themselves.

>>106215367
they have a general on /int/

>>106216867
Shut the fuck up fag, /pol/ doesn't even exist anymore it's just bots and troll posts, everyone moved on.
In fact just about everyone has moved on from this shitty website, there's maybe like 3 boards with good posts and they're nearly dead, beyond that you maybe have a couple generals that are home to moderately funny shitposts.
This site was unironically it's best from 2015ish-2020ish when it was "overrun" by white supremacists and trumpers, I'm not going to pretend otherwise.

>>106214517
Never going to happen. This entire website is fucked because moderation is selectively enforced arbitrarily. The jannies do it for free, and they aren't even good at it.
At least R*ddit has jannies that take the rules seriously

>>106216964
>shitjak talking about "death" of 4chan
You're site is 1 board that's less active than a general on 4chan lol

>>106216981
>> You're site
KING OF THE ESLs
YOU OF HEAR AM SAY??!

>>106216964
>t. shartyfag

>>106215529
>hard to reverse a decade of division

was that u/Spez or Steve Bannon's fault?

>>106216758
is that you WT Snacks?

>>106215580
>You're going to be reading a lot more than Jane Austen, pal.

tl;dr

Posting on /pol/ automatically gets you a 2 day ban on every other board

make a consumer board

>>106217019
/toy/ already exists

>>106216964
please fuck off

>>106215841
Israel yes but the other two are so inconsequential compared to the 4 listed.

>>106216902
yes, everything is pretty much a honeypot, even your mother. glowniggers cannot infringe copyright routinely and easily. maybe north korean glowniggers dont care about something silly like a copyright, so those are possibly the most relatable glowniggers ever

>>106216722
>server side is more of an opportunity for some unknown altchan

Feds b& infinity chan
How was that tolerated

>>106214382 (OP)
Rageban basedjak users. It sounds crazy, but consider this for a moment. 90% of the sites they hail from are either bait or CP. They come here just to post the same 3 insults or racial slurs you've heard since middle school. They completely fuck up any website they are allowed on and as a result, come here to escape the fallout of their retardation. Trying to integrate them into anything is also really hit or miss, as they are either just a misunderstood outcast or a raging sociopath. And you won't even know the difference until they do something foul like doxxing a user over some stupid drama that got out of hand. So yeah, I think if we rage-banned all of the Onions Teens, the quality of the site would greatly improve.

>>106216424
>we already have /pol/ leakage.

It's not /pol/ leaking into other boards, it's every fucking content everywhere in the world being full of political horseshit. Hard not to talk about politics when AAA video games start talking about gay transitions.

>>106216788

It's been trending down since 2022, and that's been accelerating this year. I run a decently big twitter account and the US numbers have tanked in 2025.

>>106217063
idk why you think the govt does not routinely break the law. there are special carveouts for govt people to break traffic laws, the FBI breaks laws against CP distribution all the time. copyright is nothing. no one can go after the govt, except the govt.

>>106217105
you are the problem

>>106215346
>Blaming them for literally everything wrong in the world
That argument would make more sense if you couldn't find a berg behind everything wrong in the world.
>leaks onto other boards
Almost like people have multiple interests and our interests have been so flooded with shit that you can't ignore by bergs and blatts that it leads people down rabbit holes.

>>106217121
you are a schizo or a shill. government cant cover it up at such scale, it only does so in specific cases and its all supersecret or relatively secret

i look forward to the day Bibi puts all the jew-haters in camps
just desserts

>>106214382 (OP)
Could rangeban countries that aren't White or East Asian.
>>106214517
This, too.

>>106217120
what's happening, did normies get tired of the internet, or die out or something. I would have thought that with more people getting access to the internet, usage would go up.

>>106214464
holy fpbp

>>106217105
no john, you are the horseshit.

>>106217067
that was bound to happen, they were technically giving a platform to mass shooters or something

old /g/ is finally back

Make drawing a loli mandatory to be allowed to post.

>>106216424
without a home board most of them would leave you dumb lolifaggot, i'm not even opposed to anime just 80iq mouthbreather pedos who scream about wanting sex with anime children.
>>106216421
>necessary evil.
it really isn't and it's gross as fuck.
>/bant/
has it's own culture and is barely relevant
>/b/
dunno
>>106216459
guess it's working on me as well
>>106216981
wrong
>>106216722
interesting ideas

>>106217204
i can't draw but i can contribute

>>106217201
not until someone posts guro

>>106217207
>it really isn't and it's gross as fuck.
Are you an actual woman or something? Just ignore it if you don't like it.

>>106217187

I think it just reached saturation. The endless outrage porn and bots flooding all platforms has people losing interest. Everything is very precariously propped up by the current LLM bubble in the states and it's hard to see any future that isn't a continued, slow decline.

>>106214559
How is "actually illegal" the problem? Nobody minds that, why even bring it up?
It's the fucking bait threads that are the issue.

I think it just reached saturation. The endless outrage porn and bots flooding all platforms has people losing interest.

>>106217273
faggot, as a pedophile you are on the same level as murderers and sadistic rapists. Genuinely an evil person, you need to be shot.

>>106217187

I think it just reached saturation. The endless outrage porn and bots flooding all platforms has people losing interest.

>>106214382 (OP)
Ban India off the internet

>>106217163
I think you're misunderstanding his point... The way the laws are written it isn't even legal for them to keep what they do for evidence or do stings where they might upload it to gain access to illegal forums etc.

>>106217187
Slopification. You're less likely to go somewhere that you used to love if it's filled with garbage.

>>106217301
sorry I offended you anon.

>>106217301
lol what?
1 man out of 4 is a pedo, whether he knows it or not

>>106217207
>without a home board
Why would they not find another home board if they also browse other boards? Are you retarded?

>>106217225
i can't draw but i can cumtribute

>>106217273
>>106217301
Funny thing is I actually know some women who like it. Usually they are the petite type though. It's typically underagers that get indoctrinated into hating it I've noticed.

>>106217317
when shills try to convince me like this, i typically recommend them to maybe kill themselves? you cant simply conveyor belt copyright infringement, you just cant. if you wanted to think in that direction you would understand why. however you are not looking into that, because your aim is to convince me i am wrong about that fact.

>>106217334
real talk, from the amount of conversations between men I've overheard in the army and on public transport, it's closer to 3/4.

>>106217207
>guess it's working on me as well
not working well enough, considering you're (unfortunately) still here

>>106217398
and that 1/4 is gay

>>106217417
But all gays are pedos.

>>106217207
get out

I honestly agree that the best thing would be to just ban controversial subjects.
Like africans, judaism, homosexuality etc.
But the thing is you need to ban it completely. Not just negative insults. Ban even the mention of it.
I think this because when I don't like somehting I don't think about it, I don't talk about it. I ignore it completely and do other things I like. Imho the only people interested in something they supposedly hate are either falseflaggers or retards.
Also ban complaining about anime/loli. Keep the SFW/NSFW rules because they are necessary but delete fags that complain.
Also make a /computer-games/ board so I don't have to suffer console manchildren. Please.

>>106217448
>Also make a /computer-games/ board so I don't have to suffer console manchildren. Please.
stopped reading right there.
everything else you said up to that point made some sense but this is just retarded.

>>106217448
>ban controversial subjects
no, thats total terrorism, you cant just ban your government agenda. you need to ban all fads instead. it actually will take quite a bit of consideration. on 4chan there could be some kind of a board, like /b/ but a blue board without fads on it.
new switch came out? nintendo does not exist for a few weeks, new elections - that country does not even exist on that board, ww3 actually started - not on that board and so on

>>106217462
it's not complicated
there's parts of the world that grew up without consoles existing
we only had computers which tend to have more "simulation" style games
even just having an fps perspective adds a lot to that in contrast to the more arcadey style of console design which is all about enjoyment, not simulation
so it would make sense to have separate board as they are different demographics
collecting coins in a nintendo game is very different from exploring a world in first person and interacting with complex devices
Also VR threads have no chance on /v/. If we had a computer-games board they may occasionally survive for more than 10 seconds.

>>106214382 (OP)
I legitimately don't believe that this site can be improved before the fabric of society can begin to heal itself. Mobile internet with smart phones and Social Media has done a significant amount of damage to how people interact with one another - not just in real life, but online. The internet is no longer a place for escape but another extension of your real life personality. Prior to social media, it was well accepted to keep these lifestyles contained and separated. 4chan was an escape from the dogma created on traditional forums but has since created its own dogma of contrarian personalities. Bad actors and well-poisoning also play a huge role in the discourse: calls to action are quickly labeled glowy/fed yet people complain endlessly on any popular board.

4chan is simultaneously downwind and upwind of the zeitgeist, so anything going on in the global state of the internet will also influence the discourse here. Most options discussed in the thread will probably result in small drops in the bucket for galvanizing positive change, as they tend to hinge on some sort of bias.

>>106217397
I don't even know what you're trying to tell me, because I didn't pay attention to any other parts of your argument with that other person. I was just saying he kind of had a point with the government being untouchable, while anyone else doing it might get fucked.

>>106217448
bans just makes the community more fake and sterile. is this what you want?
the problem is the overcrowded space. it doesn't feel like you're contributing anything meaningful if your messages drown in thousands other messages and dissapear after few hours.

>>106217194
>>106217130

>>106217575
so, there is no incentive to post anything meaningful. if you have a mob of 1000's people the only possible form of communication is shouting.

>>106214538
>forgetting Israel
glowie detected.

>>106216424
>>106217433
>>106217225
It's ironic that you're using the one anime that has its threads autosaged on /a/ whenever it's brought up

>>106217530
sad if true.
>>106217575
>bans just makes the community more fake and sterile
not necessarily. Well placed bans can improve board culture by showing tourists what doesn't fly here. I feel like at least 50% of posters on /g/ are tourists in spirit, even if they're regulars. So this could also take care of the overcrowding issue.

>>106217680
qrd? why does it result in autosage?

you guys missed the actual problems

>>106217697
Strike Witches was one of the first generals to catch the ire of the mods back in 08, some of the /a/ jannies still have PTSD over it to where even to this day Strike Witches threads get nuked

>>106217732
the fact that /a/'s mods get praised for doing the bare minimum of no pepes/wojaks/twitter ragebait threads compared to the other media boards is so baffling to me
it's like being the least worst of the garbage dump

>>106217448
>ban controversial subjects
And what about when the item itself is controversial?
As an example let's say that tranny ended up being cast as Zelda for /tv/, the mere mention of the Zelda movie is now controversial and people would absolutely abuse that.

>>106217765
I think the result of banning the Zelda movie because it has a tranny is appropriate
In fact I'd say it's exactly what I' want.

>>106217448
I actually agree with much of this. Except isn't gayming what /v/ is for?

Ban shit posters

>>106217795
ban ur mom roflmao

Delete threads when the OP leaves or hasn't posted in 20 minutes (longer for slower boards).

>>106217795
as long as things like leto's shit exist, bans only harm legitmate posters

>>106217530
Well said. This aligns with much of my own thoughts. Ultimately 4chan was a victim of its own success.
Much like the rest of the internet, the fix is to spread one's wings and start anew with likeminded people. People should be using dozens of sites instead of merely a few.

>>106217273
>Just ignore it if you don't like it.
i already do but i'm stating my opinion because it's relevant.
>Are you an actual woman or something?
lol no
>>106217340
they wouldn't, /pol/cacas get filtered by the rest of 4chan easily, you can go to 4plebs and watch them cry about how the rest of 4chan is degenerate.
>>106217402
if it's any consolation to you i went to 7chan once and noped the fuck out when they had mulitple loli/shota porn boards.
>>106217433
cry about it, lolifags are pathetic cucks who never grew past elementary school.

>>106217864
the problem is those sites have minimal amounts of users, most people don't like having to wait ages for a single reply

>>106214382 (OP)
merge everything back into /b/ and remove all rules bar ones that would get the site shut down. Background check all jannies to make sure they aren't the kind of person prone to powertripping. Making more rules lowers the post quality and gives jannies more leeway on banning those they don't like. Removing anonymity by adding accounts defeats the purpose of an anonymous image board.

>>106217871
>reeee /pol/ crossboards too much
>lol /pol/ wouldn't crossboard if /pol/ is deleted, they get filtered by the rest of 4chan
Bit of a tard aren't you.

>>106217896
most of /pol/ doesn't go outside of /pol/ much

>>106217871
>/pol/ bad
>/l/ bad
>/bant/ good
severe brain damage

>>106214382 (OP)
This goes for /pol/ too but Its time sadly to actually ban the word kike and all that related crap. ONLY because its making people type so stupid. I used to be able to have these amazing conversations but now I can't because everyone always says "wow a lot of words to say its the kikes" its like we can't have any fun conversations that are creative. Just one track minds.

We need to maybe global ban nigger too. There are so many people who just came here to say nigger but add nothing. You can still say other slurs for blacks just not catering to the idiots.

For /g/ specifically I wonder if there is a way to encourage people to be patriotic to America. I want to support American products and not get insulted or read spam about China I can't just enjoy myself.

>every time you post it tells you how long it's been since OP has last posted, doesn't stop you just tells you
>all boards
I think that this alone would stop a lot of people from replying to super low effort threads. I know that when I start typing up a post and then realize OP's only posted once I close the tab.

>>106217887
restoration of /b/ seems to be one of the few things people agree on

>>106217871
>i'm stating my opinion because it's relevant.
All you said is that it's "gross" which isn't relevant, unless you think that it hurts board quality. Which, you know, would be a very silly thing to say. Even if they do, there are a number of higher priority issues plaguing /g/ or 4chan as a whole.

Shadowban any poster who replies to more than 2 other posts.
He's clearly an attention whore and brings no value to the discussion

>>106217912
also shit like "bbc", "tranny"/"tran*" and "*oomer"

>>106217907
You're literally crying about crossboarding. So the ones that don't crossboard might leave but most importantly the ones who do crossboard would stay and probably be even worse.

>>106214464
FPBP
>>106214492
>>106215000
>>106215447
>>106214382 (OP)
KYS

Rangeban India.

>>106217915
i want to watch the "the ip counter should always be 1 more than the reply counter" schizos fight with the "op needs to reply to every reply" schizos.

The final solution, and what I feel the internet is heading towards. Is tying identity to your hardware.
I predict you'll need to register your TPM/Phone to an online identity that will be universally mandated.

>>106217956
Nice prediction. But this has been predicted every year since 2003 and still hasn't happened.

>>106217757
i think the /a/ mods are fine and when i made a thread about Strike Witches they didn't autosage afaik. i watched it for the first time like 4-5 months ago.
delicious show.

You know why I talk about political stuff on other boards? Because something political was already posted, either by (You) or the media itself is political.

>>106217844
>>106217915
OP here and I'm about to turn in. Thread's over.

>>106217977
what are your opinions of the options discussed in the thread or the general sentiment?

>>106217883
Yeah, imageboards had their greatest chance with 4chan dying for a month earlier this year. I use some others, but still come back to 4chan for speed despite a culture generally bereft of value.

>>106217912
People would just move from saying nigger to kaffir to something else. Simply banning words won't make retards change their low-effort ways. It only really appeases corporations and liberals, because you've banned some naughty word they deem to be offensive.

>>106218022
For my money I enjoy how every time the automatic moderation gets updated, the site loses around 50% of its post activity for 36-48 hours. It's good to keep remembering half of you are chatbots run by people who aren't very fast to update you.

>>106217896
see >>106217907, also removing /pol/ would cause shill posters to dramatically decrease sitewide.
>>106217910
>>/bant/ good
meds now i never said this
>>106217930
>All you said is that it's "gross" which isn't relevant, unless you think that it hurts board quality.
fine, i'll mostly concede on that point but lolifags have a habit of being obnoxious concern trolls.
> Even if they do, there are a number of higher priority issues plaguing /g/ or 4chan as a whole.
agreed

>>106214382 (OP)
Require typing a slur rather than a regular captcha.

>>106218017
YES to cunny

>>106218047
See >>106217896
Your argument is self refuting.

>>106218056
Each slur captcha must be unique, resets every 6-24 hours.

>>106218022
You underestimate how dumb these posters are.

>>106218094
you forget that /pol/ left to 8ch*n back when moot nuked them, not returning until he made the mistake of allowing them back

>>106218141
Crossboarders were still around you dumb shit.
Your solution wouldn't do anything but piss people off, you only hate them because you can't out-argue them (as is clear with your self refuting arguments).

>>106218150
>everyone who disagrees with me is the same person
sure, /pol/tard, sure...

I think only white men who own land should be allowed to post, they should also be the only people allowed to vote.
That would greatly improve the quality of any website.

>>106218163
retard

Rangeban Russia.

>>106218188
as well the quality of isr*el

>>106214382 (OP)
Ban foreign ips

>>106218162
If only one person is replying to me with the same shit tier logic then it's safe to assume it's the same person, if not then they still have shit tier logic.

range ban india and israel and delete porn boards ban pedonigger shit and unlock /qa/

>>106218188
Your basement is not "land" fatass.

>>106218188
land ownership isn't the mark of quality it used to be. it's necessary, but nowhere near sufficient. i know you know the fat drunk bearded manbabies i'm talking about.

>>106217532
all i am saying that people who study you as numbers have no idea what is going on inside your head. i would go as far as to claim that people in charge of modern society are actually genuinely retarded, but since you are like this, i wont elaborate
>>106217575
an issue too, cant even get feedback on your opinion when everything flies

>>106218047
>lolifags have a habit of being obnoxious concern trolls
You are either being intentionally retarded or an actual unironic glownigger because cp/pedos has been the excuse for 99% of bad stuff governments have done since 2009 or so. Chat control is bad.