Thread 106244058

>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICE.
Post build list or current specs including MONITOR: https://pcpartpicker.com/
Provide specific use cases.
State BUDGET and COUNTRY or you will NOT be helped.
Building guide: https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Build_a_PC

>CASE
mATX: AP201, Lian Li A3, O11 Air Mini, XT M3, CH260
ATX: XT PRO (ULTRA), AIR 903 Base/MAX, Lancool 207, Flux Pro, Y40, Meshify 3, 4000D FRAME
Dual Chamber: Y60/70, Vision (Compact), Antec C8
AVOID: NXZT, 'Silent' cases, fanless cases, Corsair 6500

>CPU
Budget: 9600X, 7600X, 7500f
Gaming: AMD X3D
Workstation: 9950X, 9900X
AVOID Shittel

>COOLER
AIO: Best Value: Thermalright Frozen Edge, Premium LCD: TRYX Panorama
Double towers: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE, Noctua NH-D15 G2
ITX/>42mm RAM: Scythe Mugen 6 Dual Fan/TR AXP120-X67

>MOTHERBOARD
Avoid purchases for new builds but if you have an ASRock mobo and Zen 5 CPU update it to the latest BIOS ASAP which may or may not solve the melting issue.

>RAM
Gaming: DDR5 2x16GB 6000CL30
Workstation/high end: consider 2x32GB

>SSD (OS drive)
Budget: NM790
Mid range: SN7100
Premium: SN850X
Flagship: SN8100

>GPU
1080p: RX 9060 XT 16GB, Poorfag Esports Gaming: Used GPU between $100-$250
1440p: RX 9070 XT, RX 9070, Budget: RX 9060 XT 16GB
4K:Used RTX 4090, RX 9070 XT
Workstation: Used RTX 4090 or RTX 3090 ti
AVOID RTX 50 Series: False advertising "5070=4090 performance!!", unsafe power connector, broken drivers, overpriced compared to RDNA 4 in most regions, threatening reviewers, manipulating and faking reviews, evil anti-consumer company etc.
ALWAYS pair AMD GPUs with AMD CPUs for SAM https://imgur.com/a/6XSNJ9b

>PSU
https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/

>MONITOR
https://www.rtings.com/monitor

>OS
Activate Windows @ >>>/g/fwt

>CASE FANS
Meta: Case with good stock PWM fans
Mid range: Arctic P12/P14 (Max) (5-pack)
High end: Noctua NF-A12x25, Noctua NF-A14x25 G2

Prev: >>106232425

>>106243817
what do you mean my lanes are being split?

I PISS ON NVIDIA

Just received my chink mouse (Zaopin Z1 Pro) I ordered from AliExpress
It feels so light compared to my previous G305 w/ AA battery; 52g vs 99g
Would recommend if you want a light mouse that's 1:1 in shape to the Razer Orochi v2
The only thing I'd like improved is hotswap microswitch sockets

>>106244058 (OP)
please remember second OP post :)

I miss when newer generations of products were better

>>106244097
>News & Rumors
RTX 50 Super: might launch in Q4 '25, 24GB VRAM for 5070 Ti & 5080 Super, 18GB for 5070 Super.
ASUS WOLED with TrueBlack Glossy film launched (XG32UCWMG, XG32UCWG). Limited availability.

>Product Notice
Gigabyte RTX 50 & RX 9000 video cards: thermal gel has QC issues, Gigabyte claims only early production batches were affected.
https://www.igorslab.de/en/update-on-thermal-putty-on-gigabyte-graphics-cards-after-further-storage-oil-separation-to-an-alarming-extent-and-silence-as-a-strategy/

Avoid updating Gigabyte motherboard's RGB controller firmware, as it can disable board features such as Q-Flash Plus.

>PSU Reviews
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplies
https://www.lttlabs.com/
https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-supplies
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=Power+Supplies

For tier-list enjoyers:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/

>Storage Reviews
https://www.phoronix.com/reviews/Storage (Linux performance)
https://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSD
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews
https://www.servethehome.com/category/storage/

Convince me that GPU market isnt shit because we have faggot influences hoarding product for no reason at all like here:
https://youtu.be/NnhU2ZvHb10?t=299

>>106244058 (OP)
>https://www.rtings.com/monitor
are they out of their minds?
>Best Gaming Monitors
>$1,200 4k 240 qd-oled
>$730 1440 360 qd-oled
>$630 1440 240 glossy woled
>$300 1440 180 mini led va
>$230 1080 280 ips

why are people trying to force 27" and 32" 2160p displays? the PPI is too large.
Windows was designed with a 90-110 PPI in mind.

>>106244184
holy fuck who cares

whoever recommended Noctua fans is a fucking retard

Is this a good build for $1500? USA


>CASE
Lian Li LANCOOL 217 ATX Mid Tower Case

>CPU
AMD Ryzen 7 9700X 3.8 GHz 8-Core Processor

>COOLER
Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler

>MOTHERBOARD
MSI PRO B650M-P Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard

>RAM
Corsair Vengeance RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL36 Memory

>SSD (OS drive)
SK Hynix Platinum P41 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive

>GPU
XFX Swift OC Radeon RX 9060 XT 16 GB Video Card

>PSU
be quiet! Pure Power 12 M 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply

>MONITOR
N/A

>OS
Windows 10 IoT LTSC

>CASE FANS
Fans with Tower

>>106244098
go roleplay elsewhere, my brother of African origin, don't do it here

What's a good spacious case with several rgb fans for under $120

>>106244255
lian li 207 or 216

>>106244184
High ppi is perfect for reading moon runes

>>106244289
is their text larger than ours?

>>106244208
for that much money I feel like you should be putting an 800x3d CPU in.
that case is HUGE for a system that weak.
PSU seems overbudgeted.
check the OP for free Windows.

>>106244307
yes it's fat and overweight

Is it worth upgrading from a 5700X to a 5700X3D?

What exactly is the line where you'd want to switch from a 9800x3d to a 9950x3d?
For example, if you mostly game, but also like having browsers, streams, voip, etc on a second monitor, then is a 9800 enough?

>>106244406
if you have to ask, then you don't need the extra cpu cores.
I wouldn't recommend it to any non developers.

>buy IPS display
>can't tell what the fuck is going on in dark moments in game
>crank brightness up
>everything is washed out
>can barely see in dark scenes now
>get back to a light scene
>FIRE IN THE HOLE!
>flashbang and everything is extremely washed out
>lower brightness again
fuck this.

>>106244438
Fair enough, guess I'll stick to the 9800.

>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICE.
Post build list or current specs including MONITOR: https://pcpartpicker.com/
Provide specific use cases.
State BUDGET and COUNTRY or you will NOT be helped.
Building guide: https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Build_a_PC

>CASE
mATX: AP201, Lian Li A3, O11 Air Mini, XT M3, CH260
ATX: XT PRO (ULTRA), AIR 903 Base/MAX, Lancool 207, Flux Pro, Y40, Meshify 3, 4000D FRAME
Dual Chamber: Y60/70, Vision (Compact), Antec C8
AVOID: 'Silent' cases, Corsair 6500

>CPU
Budget: 13100, 12400, 13400
Gaming : 14600k
Workstation: 14900k, 265k, 285k
AVOID Gaymd. Ryzen has been proven time and time again to be snake oil.

>COOLER
AIO: Best Value: Thermalright Frozen Edge, Premium LCD: TRYX Panorama

>SSD (OS drive)
Budget: NM790, WD Blue
Mid range: SN7100
Premium: SN850X
Flagship: SN8100

>GPU
1080p: 5060 Ti 16gb, 5070---Budget option : Used Vega 56 (Linux), 2060 Super, 2070, 2080ti, or 3080
1440p: 5070, 5070 Ti---Budget option : 5060 Ti 16gb, Used 3080
4K: 5080, 5090----Budget option : 5070 Ti
Ultra Poor/Display Adapter/Etc : Quadro Kepler, Pascal and Ampere mining cards
AVOID RADEON, fake msrp, no ray reconstruction alternative, ai driven frame generation, or path tracing performance. FSR4 is a DLSS3 competitor and lacks widespread support. Optiscaler not a universal solution and can cause crashing or bans from online games.
ALWAYS force transformer model DLSS Super Resolution, Ray Reconstruction, and Frame Generation

>PSU
https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/

>MONITOR
https://www.rtings.com/monitor
240HZ is the new bare minimum regardless of resolution

>OS
Activate Windows @ >>>/g/fwt

>CASE FANS
Meta: Case with good stock PWM fans
Mid range: Arctic P12/P14 (Max) (5-pack)
High end: Noctua NF-A12x25, Noctua NF-A14x25 G2


Any suggestions? Need more for the display adapter category, maybe links to essential Digital Foundry content from Alex Battalagia?

>>106244208
$1500 is rather a lot for that performance level.
If you're just gaming you could get a 5070Ti or 9070XT: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/wggpwY
If you need some multicore for work then try this: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/PBVCXR
(Swap the 9700X back if you like and consider a 5060Ti 16GB if your suite uses CUDA)

>>106244480
9800x3d especially if gaming is your primary use case.

>>106244365
If you can still get one for <$150 and play a lot of cache-heavy games, sure. Otherwise you might as well save up for a full system upgrade.

>check prices
>still no better deal than a 7800 XT
How does AMD do it?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8gpNh7
Thoughts?
Also are there any 5070ti models/brands I should avoid or is it safe to just get the cheapest one I can find?

>>106244504
Nvidia drivers are still fucked and plagued with blackscreen issues and other assortment of fuckery stay the fuck away from Nvidia until they fix them

>went from a 1700x and failing GTX 1080 to a 5800XT and 9060 XT
feels good man

>>106244575
Core concept is good. The one thing I would change is the SSD as the P3+ is QLC (and more expensive than some better TLC models). Outside of that there's some room to trim at the margins (PSU, RAM, mobo maybe) but nothing massive.

>Also are there any 5070ti models/brands I should avoid
AFAIK there are no reports of widespread brand-specific issues. Spend a bit more if you want lower noise. Anon posted a roundup pic here: >>106231996

Post something more beautiful.

>>106244551
>under 150
>only one on sale in emuland is 450
It's over

>>106244255
Most preinstalled fans tend to be RGB these days. Browse Montech cases too since you want cheap(er).

>>106244696
Old tech out of production is expensive, more news at 11. Time to upgrade everything, cagey wagey.

>>106244208
my opinion is go for the lian li 207 and squeeze some bucks from that rest look okay for me BUT if you see any other B850M motherboards on sale go for em , thus i advise you to stay away from msi pro serie motherboards rest are looking good (browse hardware unboxed's monitor channel yoo) if you will go for a FHD build wait for 9700x3d/9600x3d 's release itll make a difference at FHD

>>106244058 (OP)
Why did Carbice sign an exclusivity deal with a lame prebuilt gaming PC company like CyberPowerPC when they want their ice pads to permanently replace thermal paste? You expect it would be cheaper and easier for Carbice to bypass the middleman and just directly sell their ice pads on Amazon while getting live streamers to shill their product. Instead, Carbice decided to make the mistake of chaining themselves to CyberPowerPC.

https://www.cyberpowerpc.com/page/carbice/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Asa1XdeXblk

>>106244480
it will make no sense at 2K for games which dont utilize the cache

dont get cocked because of the 1st data , buy your cpu according to what you play

forgot to attach the 2nd pic

>>106244765
>>106244779
Now post the 1%s.

>>106244798
it says the average fps on top right thus this is for 2k

>>106244673
North x ProArt is godlike combo.

>>106244668
Very helpful, thanks.
Do you have any recommendations for the SSD? I am pretty clueless about what I should be looking for when it comes to SSDs.

>>106244815
Now post the 1%s.

>>106244871
i know where we are getting by that nigga
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-7-9800x3d/29.html
this is the best i can do he didnt post any 1% comp or i couldnt find it

>>106244871
huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuh

>>106244864
Do this: https://pcpartpicker.com/products/internal-hard-drive/#c1=di_m2.pcie_40_x4&A=2000000000000,36000000000000&sort=price&page=1
and go down the list.

The cheapest TLC model I can see is the Team MP44L: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/2VJgXL/
Next step up would be the NM790: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/TspQzy/
Has a bit more performance but unlikely you'd notice it if you're just gaming.

Here's the canonical spreadsheet with component selection. SSDs are commodities so the best deal is going to vary daily.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1B27_j9NDPU3cNlj2HKcrfpJKHkOf-Oi1DbuuQva2gT4/edit#gid=0

Left or right?

>>106245058
Left if you want to adjust the monitor frequently, right if you just want to set it up once and leave it like that.

Alright, thanks brother.

>>106245168
Oops I forgot to quote since I was in a hurry to poop >>106245112

>>106244078
Your mobo supports PCIE5 but your GPU is using only PCIE4 probably because you are using NVME SSD that shares the lane. That's probably what he meant, but it doesn't practically matter. You are bogged by 8GB VRAM so playing any modern game at higher than 1080p will tank your fps.

Are Ryzen x CPUs always going to result in a loud build?
I understand they aim to hit as high clocks as they can until they hit 95c.

Anyone here actually had issues on Asrock boards or it's another overblown reddit bullshit?

>>106245342
you can adjust it however you want
run it cooler and quieter if you want
aio is pretty quiet either way

>>106245342
Not a problem unless they run at 100% which is extremely rare. Or you just turn ECO mode on.

>>106245431
My b650 steel legend has been through a 7800x3d for 5 months and a 9800x3d for 8 months now and nothing has gone wrong. Neither have I noticed any degradation on my 9800x3d since everything was tuned in half a year ago

>>106245342
My aio regulates its fans based on liquid temps and I have capped my other fans to a fixed value regardless of my 9800x3d's temps so its always quiet

>>106245431
idk man im not touching an asrock board ill consoom asus instead

Not sure if I asked this before, but I plan on upgrading my gpu for using with blender and gaming and I'm wondering what I should replace my 6600xt with that won't be absurdly expensive.

I plan on getting a used card for roughly $500, and most likely settling with Nvidia

>>106245495
Mine is working flawlessly too. This whole thing feels weird.

>>106245828
I mean how many 9800x3d are used world wide on asrock boards? The last time I checked there were around 200 reported cases with most of them on asrock but depending on the total amount this is still well below 0.0x%

>>106245804
>I plan on getting a used card for roughly $500, and most likely settling with Nvidia
https://bestvaluegpu.com/
^Would be your best friend (filter by Used Condition, Price Range, and sort by value) is what I would normally say but since Nvidia ended up production of prior series cards early before the 5000 series ever released the used market for old Nvidia cards worth buying is all jacked up to the point that there is almost nothing to be saved over buying new right now. Check out PCBuilder's August GPU Market Roundup here to be caught up on specific recommendations (you can skim @ 1.5x/2x speed):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrks6DPJOrI

Alternatively, if $500 is already a lot of money for you to invest in a GPU you might as well hold off and save up for the Super Refresh with a huge boost in VRAM for blender in a few months:
https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-geforce-rtx-50-super-rumored-to-appear-before-2026

I'm in the market for a 27" 1440p monitor, narrowed it down to Asus XG27ACS, I can get one for $200. Does anyone here use it and would you guys recommend it?

>>106244765
>>106244779
Oh, I use a 4K monitor.

>>106245966
I definitely won't have enough saved for a refresh if Nvidia is planning on doing one this year, earliest I'd be able to afford one is mid fall since I'm already in a rough spot money wise. It's probably easier if I grind up around 550 to get a 5070 since that seems like the best pick in terms of benchmark scores and price.

>>106245966
he’s doing blender so AMD is total niggerslop not worth considering

will amd ever bend the knee and move to 12vhpwr?
i sure hope not

Playing it on Intel Arc.

>>106246191
Unique Experience™.

>>106246191
Just kidding, i disabled shader compilation.
Also game real UE5 junk, i completed with god mode on.

>>106246214
You better compile those shaders, fool.

How likely is it that Thunderbolt/USB4 will kept on being added to motherboards?
X870E made it more universal and lots of even lower-end Z890 boards have it.
But I'm bullish on board vendors to actually keep it up should it stop being mandatory

How long until we can have sex with a motherboard?

>>106246299
I'd expect controllers for it will get more common and cheaper
Don't think its going to disappear

I wonder how UserBenchmark will take it.

>>106246506
userbenchmark bro already lost his job from LBT's firings

kek intel is not going anywhere
drama nexus sure loves his drama kek

>Intel goes bankrupt
>AMD goes wild as there's no competition
>$500 Athlon
ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED?

>>106244058 (OP)
>AVOID Shittel
You were told to keep your opinion out of OP, retard.

>>106246631
implying american tax payers won't keep intel alive plus intel has too many ties to israel for them to fail

Look what I found for my new rig. KF440C19RB1K2/32
Probably one of the best DDR4 kits I could realistically expect to buy here.

>i5 10400
>16GB DDR4 2666
>GTX 1660 Super
What GPU do I upgrade to for modern slop gaming like Oblivion Remastered? Assuming they're the same price around 200-230 euro:
>RTX 3070ti (would also need to upgrade my PSU for just under 100 euro)
>RTX 4060 (less wattage than my current GPU even)
I'll be getting a 1440p monitor to play with DLSS balanced or quality upscaling for potentially better visuals and performance than native 1080p.
>Inb4 ayymd is better than Nvidia chudbeiteverly?
Nyo. Can't run Stable Diffusion on R*deon.
>Inb4 8GB vram isn't enough in le current year!!
I still haven't gotten any concrete evidence that this is the case. I'm fine with playing at lower settings as long as I get a stable 60+ FPS and no massive upscaling artifacts like FSR@1080.

https://overclock3d.net/news/gpu-displays/nvidia-geforce-rtx-50-super-pricing-leaks/
Predict on actual prices after scalped?

>>106246818
>(AMD) is an American multinational corporation and technology company headquartered in Santa Clara, California and maintains significant operations in Austin, Texas.
>>106246892
4000 at 19 23 23 42 1.35v? Thats standart. Check buyers comments:
>after few month bad sectors

>>106246939
>Nyo. Can't run Stable Diffusion on R*deon.
You literally can, though. It's not 2022 anymore.

>>106246968
On Windows, without spending a week tinkering and debugging? How does it even work without CUDA? Doesn't make any sense.

>>106246984
Yep. Literally one-click install, same as green cards.
https://github.com/lshqqytiger/stable-diffusion-webui-amdgpu-forge
You can get comfyui too if you prefer.

>How does it even work without CUDA?
CUDA isn't anything special, just proprietary.

People genuinely overestimate what you need to run AI.

>>106246959
>I will shitpost in OP and expect to get a good thread
You're a clown.

>>106247022
Any recommended Radeons that can match or surpass the two RTX's I listed at a similar price point? The 7700XT seems on par with the 3070ti and has 12GB VRAM, but is over 100 euro more expensive used.

>>106246955
aint no way we getting 24gb for less than 1k

>>106246892
its no b-die but its alright

>>106246955
Those prices are very optimistic.

>>106247134
I mean GPU MSRP prices are basically meaningless nowadays.

>>106246373
I just more wonder if they are going to scale it back, leave it on more expensive boards but take it away from cheaper ones.
They've done it with POST codes, 10g networking and pcie slots.

>>106246955
>>106247147
yeah couple of months ago rog astral 5080 was going for $1800 at microcenter. the card should be no more than 1k at best.

Thinking about buying a new gayming computer soon-ish (will ask for help later, but it's gonna be about ~2k as far as the budget goes) and I'm wondering if I should salvage my Noctua NH-D15 tower cooler as they can provide a new mounting kit for free and my PSU since I bought my current build in 2019 and the PSU is a Seasonic Prime Gold 750W. I wager the PSU should be still pretty good, right? The warranty is 12 years and it's an OEM.

>>106247037
Pick your favorite. If your goal is to just generate porn on a gaming card, the difference between anything over a 3060 is negligible. We're talking 3 seconds/image on a 3060 vs 0.9 seconds/image on a 4090. Kneecapping your gaming performance just to get a card that generates an image half a second faster isn't worth it.

Ironically, 8GB vram IS going to limit you. 4GB is the technical minimum but there are some models that require at least 16GB. Look up what you plan on using before you pull the trigger.
Or just settle for what you can run on your budget. I was generating porn on a fucking R9 380 a couple years ago, whatever works.

>>106247374
No I'm upgrading mainly for gaming, I just don't want to cuck myself from ALSO genning anime girls with fat tits.

>>106247316
$2400*
now its $1800

yea im done with nvidia :/ the amd driver on my friends rig feel way snappier

>>106247316
astral is a bad comparison, its the most obscenely marked up model

>>106247618
Once you experience the joy of the all AMD pc you can never go back

>>106247626
the msi cards are also $1500-1600 for stuff like ventus and gaming trio. you can get a 9070xt for $700 and it will only be like what 10% slower?

>>106247662
Truly full SAM is a miracle.

will 9600/9700x3d be better than 7800x3d?

>>106247698
>>106247662
>>106247618
least obvious samefag

>>106247337
I'm still using a 10 year old EVGA gold 750w one, no issues

>>106247713
Only one of these quotes is me. Try again.

>>106247713
Look, I get it, NVIDIA has the mindshare. They’ve got the big numbers, the flashy features, the "better" benchmarks. But have you ever just felt the difference when using an AMD GPU? The drivers are just... snappier.

It’s not something you can quantify with raw FPS charts. It’s about the latency, the way the system breathes when you’re on Radeon. NVIDIA’s drivers feel bloated, like they’re weighed down by all that proprietary overhead. AMD’s are lean, efficient, pure. Sure, maybe they don’t always win in synthetic tests, but in real usage? The difference is night and day.

And don’t even get me started on how much cleaner the image looks. Something about NVIDIA’s drivers introduces a subtle harshness, like digital noise in the signal path. AMD’s rendering is just more organic. You wouldn’t understand unless you’ve spent hours tweaking settings to achieve that perfect, analog smoothness.

Some people just want the biggest number. But for those of us who truly appreciate the experience? AMD is the only choice. It’s not about specs, it’s about soul.

>>106247757
amen

This is my Radeon. There are many like it, but this one is mine.
>My Radeon is my best friend. It is my life. I must master it as I must master my life.
>My Radeon, without me, is useless. Without my Radeon, I am useless. I must OC my Radeon high. I must score higher than the nvidiot who is trying to outscore me. I must burn his connector before he burns me. I will...
>My Radeon and I know that what counts in this war is not the benchmarks we run, the noise of our fans, nor the smoke we make. We know that it is the score that counts. We will score...
>My Radeon is human, even as I, because it is my life. Thus, I will learn it as a brother. I will learn its weaknesses, its strength, its parts, its accessories, its voltages and its clocks. I will keep my Radeon clean and ready, even as I am clean and ready. We will become part of each other. We will...
>Before Lisa, I swear this creed. My Radeon and I are the defenders of AMD. We are the masters of our enemy. We are the saviors of my life.
>So be it, until victory is AMD's and there is no enemy, but peace!

>>106247826
sapphire nitro is so beautiful
but i boughted the pulse because fuck the retarded connector design and placing

>>106247890
that connector thats the fixed 12v-2x6 version is actually fine at 300w
its only a problem above 400W

>>106247900
still don't like how it's placed under the radiator, it both obstructs the airflow (with the soft pads so it won't get damaged) and gets roasted with hot air (bet it'll get brittle from heat cycles right about when the warranty expires)

>>106244184
>Windows was designed with a 90-110 PPI in mind.
so your whole argument falls back to this? not if it looks better
for example read and look here https://phrogz.net/tmp/ScreenDensityCalculator.html#find:density,pxW:3840,pxH:2160,size:27,sizeUnit:in,axis:diag,distance:60,distUnit:cm

>>106244451
decrease gamma or use black stabilizer if you have it
you probably have to use digital vibrance in monitor or driver to offset the washing out of the image to boost colors too, this is why you buy wide gamut displays
this is why black stabilizer is an underrated feature, non gaymen monitors only have a tiny ass gamma adjustment or if they have black eq it's badly tuned and is just a glorified gamma slider like you said, you live and learn

>>106246191
>>106246214
1080p bad
>completed with god mode on
lol

>>106247618
techyes said nv app adds system wide input lag
you might have a point

>>106247949
makes sense
yeah a slight tug on the cable drastically affects the current distribution so that angle is pretty non-ideal too

I would be making "completed it on NVIDIA GeForce RTX" but my 4k screenshots are too large to upload to 4chan

>>106248036
Make them smaller with paint

I boughted a Radeon 9060 XT

>>106248089
Best poorfag option right now, especially if dropping into a pcie 3.0 system.

>>106247337
Just wait for am6/ddr6. Buy a new gpu in the meantime and a 5800xt cpu.

>>106248182
>Just wait for am6/ddr6
>just go without a computer for the next three years so you can beta test a new socket at double msrp

>Trueblack XG32UCWMG reviews
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6JuMQvivVCM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHRYDmczaPM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGNG3HPNtx8

has QDOLED fallen? is it over?

>>106248207
Am5/ddr5 is a failure. Can't run at speed, memory controller can't handle 4 sticks of ram. I'm skipping it.

>>106248260
x3d makes memory speed almost irrelevant. there's almost no difference between 3200cl16 and max tuned ddr4 for 5800x3d.

>>106248182
Lol not really an option, my build is shittel and is starting to show it's age on anything newer (i7 8700k, RTX 2070)

>>106248285
Cope. Only makes sense for itx trannies who already buy a mobo with only 2 ram slots. I have a full tower and want full atx with as many pcie slots as possible. I'll wait the 2-3 years with a 9070xt and a 5700x. I can already run cyberpunk in 4k/60fps ray tracing on high.

>>106248023
>Windows was designed with a 90-110 PPI in mind.
>so your whole argument falls back to this? not if it looks better
it doesn't look better or function better to use OS upscaling. you lose any extra screen real estate you're supposed to gain by increasing your monitor resolution, while also not having clear compatibility with programs that don't rely on OS upscaling, or have poor implementations of it, or just putting your faith in Windows in general (lol).

>>106248036
save them as .jpg instead of .png usually works for me.

>>106248182
I don't think AM6 will be on DDR6.

>>106248319
for x3d its like 5% gain at best. for non x3d its almost 15%.

>>106248289
Oof 8th gen. Yeah why not. I would just buy a 9600x and then upgrade it later to x3d when you get a steal. My wifes pc is 8th gen and I will be building her an am5 this year. She wants sff anyway. 8th gen was a bad time because it was just before it became obvious not to buy intel anymore.

>>106248345
Imagine buying ddr5 and then running it at ddr4 speeds. I would have to just overpay for a mobo and keep returing cpus until I get one with a golden memory controller that can run expo on 4 channels.

>>106248393
*2 channels, 4 sticks

>>106248350
>Oof 8th gen. Yeah why not. I would just buy a 9600x and then upgrade it later to x3d when you get a steal.
Sounds like an option, been eyeing the 9800x3d since I could afford it, but it might not indeed be smart to go for it just yet

>8th gen was a bad time because it was just before it became obvious not to buy intel anymore.
Ayup, tell me about it... At least it has oveclocked nicely enough and served me well for a bit over six or so years

>>106248350
why not a mini-PC?

>>106245966
whats the fucking point of these channels
>heres average fps chart and all the "value" is contained in the fps chart and price of the gpu

Theres nvidia featureset. Dlss transformer model. Frame gen. Other shit nvidia absolutely dominates the competitition with.
AMD has fsr 4 that isnt supported widely. Their frame gen is worse. The upscaler when it works is worse than dlss. Energy efficiency is worse.

Misleading nonsense.

>>106248409
She already picked out her case. She told me she wanted unusual and small. So thermaltake tower 250 beat out fractals terra and era 2. I'm never buying intel again. I have considered the MINISFORUM BD795i SE which runs a 7945HX 16 core/32 thread laptop cpu and sodimm ddr5. But I would rather be able to replace her cpu later and keep the pc going for 10 years.

>>106248463
Upscaling and frame gen only matter if you're running aaa on a 4k monitor. And aaa titles do have fsr support widely.

>>106248463
>Theres nvidia featureset. Dlss transformer model. Frame gen. Other shit nvidia absolutely dominates the competitition with.

bro you shit this out on a iphone? you sound like a retarded jit

>>106248408
Zen 6 is coming in q1 2026. Just buy the 9600x it will already be a huge upgrade. Then get x3d at eol for am5 when it is cheap.

>>106248542
Wait I'm retarded, I actually have a 9700k, not 8700k. Which actually makes it kinda worse that I chose shittel back in 2019. Anyway, great point about the 9600x. I'm just thinking if it's "enough" to be paired with RX 9070 as my next gpu as I really want to make the next build be a huge leap.

>>106248321
>it doesn't look better
it does unless you are blind and have the appropriate distance to your eyeballs, read the website

>you lose any extra screen real estate you're supposed to gain by increasing your monitor resolution, while also not having clear compatibility with programs that don't rely on OS upscaling, or have poor implementations of it, or just putting your faith in Windows in general (lol).
use bigger display + use whatever scaling suits you + stop using legacy software + just deal with it

>>106248036
>zoomers don't know about file compression
I have been here too long
it's over

>>106248588
Yeah you aren't going to see big bottlenecks with a 9600x and a 9070xt running 4k or 1440p. Cpu gains go down at higher resolutions. Take the saved money and buy a large 4k monitor.

>>106248612
Roger, thanks Anon. I'll go with the 9600x for now.

>>106248463
>You should buy the more expensive GoyForce with not enough vram to even load high resolution textures
>Why?!
>Stop being anti semitic goyim you don't wanna miss out on the 4 times fake frames featurset don't you?!!
Fuck off

>>106244058 (OP)
>Nigger shilljeets tell me the only viable (((budget))) option to upgrade from an RTX 3060 is to 5060ti
>Look inside
>Performs worse than a 5 year old 3070ti

>>106248790
ever heard of "inflation" and "covid"

>>106248790
The 128bit bus also makes it worthless for an older pcie 3.0 system. Upgrading just the gpu because low budget is the primary usecase of a 60 class card. They hate us, despise us.

>>106248803
>SAAAR BLOODY COVID AND INVLATION PLEASE UNDERSTAND
GTX 1060 was better than 980 you nigger kikejeet FUCK YOU

>>106248830
you're mad about poverty caused by poor parenting and your own decisions, not because of something nvidia did

>>106248846
No, as always I'm mad at the federal reserve. They're the reason life only gets worse over time since 1971.

>>106248790
not like AMDs option performs any better

>>106248830
We can't have people building ai clusters with 1,600gb of vram through 100 5060s instead of buying our 96gb $40,000 tesla cards. We learned from our mistakes.

>>106247698
It is indeed a miracle

>>106248846
Says the streetshitting shill, I know its hard for your poobrain to comprehend Rakesh but you can't defend a current 450-500$ gpu performing worse than a 5 year old one thats worth 250$ nowadays

so instead of 24/7 spam about trannies /g/ has to have spam about indians

....

>>106248906
it’s sad you’re still shilling this 5 years later

>>106248951
If you stopped spreading like a plague and kept in your containment zone nobody would care.

>poors actually spend all day posting graphs of midrange cards from years ago to sell AMD today
>people actually get tricked by this daily
They're so gross and dishonest, you know the shills are brown.

>>106248989
Imagine if samsung hadn't shit the bed and we already had an 18gb 5070 instead of the one we have now that is like 5% better than the 4070s. Nobody would have to reccomend the 9070xt.

Nvidia gimping their 5060 Ti with only 8 PCI lanes was an insanely strange choice, people buying midrange cards probably don't have motherboards with PCI-E 5.0 capability, exacerbating the bottleneck

>>106249051
Spend more to save more!

should i update my drivers? im on 576.02 still...

>>106239724
I tried doing this, but it shows literally nothing at all. Nothing on processes with disk activity and nothing on disk activity. Kind of at my wits end here.

>106248955
>106248989
>106249007
>t.

>>106248212
Since nobody cares I will add that another retailer added it
it's 1250€ now
that's a 400€ more than what I can buy the LG for

>>106248970
kill
your
self

>>106249189
that gpu connector and 140mm aio are beyond horrendous

>>106249051
It's perfectly understandable from a profit maxing standpoint. Every 1mm2 shaved off gives them an extra 2-3 more chips yielded from a single wafer so saving 5-10mm2 of space on half width pcie is a no brainer

DLSS4 and AI are the only reasons I'm going for the 5070 ti over the 9070 XT!!!

>>106248747
but saar, you can generate virtual bobs and vegana on a GeeForce card, you bloody benchod

>>106249296
faster

>>106249312
I wonder how much extra the 5070ti super will cost compared to the normal version

Slightly odd but on topic question - have any of you anons signed up for edu redirect services(?) through ebay to get discounts on monitors etc? and did you have issues?

Nvidia Strong

Games that ruin better on Nvidia GPUs are not important.

>>106249239
Saar pls, nobody likes you go home

>>106249510
>He can't play the 2024 GOTY because he boughted gay-deon

>>106249362
Msrp $950, irl $1,250

>>106249525
MODS FOR THE LOVE OF GOD DO SOMETHING ALREADY

>>106249527
>motion blur: high
Based

>>106248906
>Accuses other of being schizos and shilling
>Camps this thread posting tranime edits of AMD Unboxed benchmarks from like 5 years ago
Twisted and deranged

>>106249539
I have a vpn and two sims there is nothing they can do

>>106248463
DLSS is no longer a selling feature of a noVidio card. they're professional cards, not gaming cards.

>>106249572
They can ask nsa to track the ip down so they can find your mother and jail her to death for sexually abusing a toddler by letting brown men gape its anus

>>106248593
>browse the internet
>oops the website didn't scale the text correctly!
fuck this OS SCALING meme. it's already bad enough upscaling is considered the standard way to experience games now, and soon AI frame hallucinations will become the standard too. shit eating faggots like you are the reason the industry sucks now.

I hate mac and ishitters with a burning passion.

>>106249611
Ranjeesh pls if anything the world needs to ban all indian ips from the internet

>>106249527
that's not Astro Bot.

>>106249174
Actually I just managed to catch this, but how am I supposed to find out what System is doing here? This tells me nothing and search engines give nothing to work with as usual, all threads about it are just unanswered.

>>106249762
He's just stretching

>>106249762
I think it's called a pagefile, I forget because I haven't looked at it in years, but basically you can reserve part of your storage device to larp as RAM. you might have that enabled?

RIP SATA SSDs. You became obsolete like HDDs.

>>106249856
Doesn't use anything besides my C drive, and I have no issues with that drive, only my non-C drives.

>>106249873
to be fair that game was specifically made like that to highlight ps5 ssd
its kinda dumb and most games that dont push the player to constantly teleport from scene to scene dont suffer from using sata ssd

>>106249906
directstorage is going to become more and more common. final fantasy rebirth uses it, so does monster hunter, upcoming ue5 games in general.

>>106249940
everything I heard about that shit is that its completely irrelevant

>>106249949
final fantasy 16 loads any point in the game within 2 seconds with nvme. you cant do this on a sata ssd

>>106249940
>me waiting for the last of us to load from a 10tb hdd for 4 minutes

>>106249949
One of the rumors is that UDNA will have a hardware acceleration decompression block for directstorage. So this frees up work from the CPU cores/GPU Shaders.

>>106249762
Windows is harvesting your data because of whatever siglusengine is.

>>106249969
last of us 2 came out on ps4 btw. the load times were brutal there.

>>106250057
That has nothing to do with it, it happens even when running nothing at all.

>>106250072
I bought my first ssd for wow like early 2010
How consoles resisted using ssds until 2020's was bizarre.
They could've done hybrind approach of making pro versions with a hdd + 500gb ssd and users couldve chosen to use better speeds for their fav games.

>>106250072
I have a 4 slot nvme pcie adapter and another nvme but to install it I need to remove the current nvme because it shares lanes with my 2nd full size pcie slot. Eventually I'll install a few more nvmes onto it but once I end my current wfh position because I don't want to go through installing all their bullshit again

>>106244206

is not retard product very good for consumer purposes

>>106244206
Always buy thermalright. It's just that simple.

>>106244673

ok

>>106248212
one more added
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQZSTlYjsQQ

4/4 shills have abandoned pg32ucdm QDOLED in favor of an old WOLED with Trueblack coating

it's over, affiliate marketing must continue

>>106250212
still not buying oled. wake me up on the next display tech that reaches LCD affordability levels.

>>106247890

have you looked amd sakuras?

>>106248393

are you sure you want to boot with optimizations

>>106250243
It's already at LCD affordability levels.
It's why so many are getting OLED.

>>106250248
yes very coomable, would buy as a figurine if i were rich

Should I bother getting a 7800x3d or just get a cheapo 9600x for half the price? For 1440p low settings esports faggot gayming mostly.

>>106250360
buy cheapo 9600x now, sell it when 10800x3d comes out

>>106250276
?

>>106250243
>still not buying oled
that was not an ad, but I get your point, there are many downsides
why do I feel like manufacturers have abandoned LCDs? seems some minileds are coming though
also why are no one making glossy lcds? at the 4k level it starts to make even more sense too
seems very odd
5k strobed pulsar monitors coming soon also

>>106250276
shit oled firmware destroyed 99% of all viable cheap monitors, oled care is plague on all of mankind
you also have to account for long term burn in/pixel death for pricing
an oled has to be 3x cheaper if you account for 3 years compared to 10 years use in reality, even though you can still use shit when it's burned in or pixel start offing themselves
but the real nightmare is the firmware, holy fuck it's bad

>>106250276
>>106250376
seems like they have the monopoly on high refresh rate 4k, which doesn't really matter because the only games that run at that high of fps at 4k are using frame hallucination, which will be a shit experience, or they're 30 years old.

>>106250375
I'd have to swap the mobo as well which is not ideal. Besided what would I even need a 10800x3d for if a 7800x3d would be enough right now?

>>106250404
when you compare oled clarity to lcd you also have to use a 1.5x multiplier ton compare the refreshes, so a 4k240 is 4k360 in lcd clarity
no such display exists
I don't care if they fucking all burn in or burn up just fix the fucking firmware

>>106250418
what do you mean? 7000-10000 all use same am5 board.

>>106250398
>32" 5k
>200% windows dpi scaling
>4x MFG
>30 ms input delay
>ghosting
>blur
>still not reaching 165 fps

>>106250376
Just because you have no perspective beyond the last year doesn't mean OLEDs aren't affordable
What OLEDs can do now literally didn't exist a few years ago and the closest thing would have been a 4k 120hz IPS and would have set you back $2500+

Cheap LCDs only exist because OLED destroyed the market. You almost cannot sell an LCD monitor above $1k anymore.

>>106250449
>>32" 5k
yeah nothing clearer rn
>>200% windows dpi scaling
literally goated and perfect scaling due to 2x though and perfect usage in windows
>>4x MFG
why would u use that
>>30 ms input delay
dont use fg

>>ghosting
>>blur
with 165hz strobing with pulsar and you get it synced with vrr you get 165hz X4 = 660hz effective clarity at 165fps, you will get 0 ghosting or blur
it will look like sub 2ms persistence, better than 500hz monitors, some shit like that

>>106250478
people buying >350€ lcds are literally mentally ill

>>106250441
Yeah I'm wrong, that's pretty cool then.

>>106250478
>blah blah blah
address the point not some weird headcanon. lcd is half the price still, and there is only one oled model that comes close to competing on price.

How much of a potential problem is it I choose a 650w PSU and it doesn't reach the 1.5x recommendation for system wattage?

Are you the OLED shopper? Did you buy that C4?

>>106250502
>webos
>no qd oled color volume
eh. Is the target audience people who hate the qd oled pink tint in bright rooms

>>106250478
>Cheap LCDs only exist because OLED destroyed the market. You almost cannot sell an LCD monitor above $1k anymore.
that's a good thing, maybe I will buy a cheapo 27" 4k 160hz gigabyte SS IPS at this point and call it a day, I got oled fatigue
the price was cheap as fuck before it increased again

>>106250488
Did you buy the C4?

>>106250502
>>106250536
That's not me you are referring to and I didn't

>>106250488

no they want something and it costs
you might get 19" 4:3 1024 line with such money sure it seems crazy but is not

>>106250636
seems like bot posts

Well ain't it great
While I've managed to workaround this boost clock issue on 9070XT, I've found out that this fucking pajeetware (AMD Adrenalin) can randomly reset my GPU settings on boot. So now I have to check if it did that every time otherwise the gaymes might crash.
Should have paid those 200$ more for 5070ti, jesus fuck why is AMD so shit at software. reeee

Does there exist IPS 32 inch screens any longer or are all of them OLED?
>32 inch
>4k
>140hz or above
>g sync free sync?

>>106244772
I play gacha games where I need to run 20+ instances during rerolling. Would a 9950 make a noticeable difference over a 9800 for that specific purpose?

why is 7800x3d no longer recommended in op

>>106250714
high price

L M A O
M
A
O

>>106250720
so a 9700x a better deal i gyess?

>>106250735
depends
most people should buy 9800x3d if they can afford it

>>106250735
Absolutely

>>106250744
what should i buy if i already have a 9070xt
9800x3d a bit expensive for me

>>106250773
9600x
9700x

why is picking a monitor such a pain in the hole
>OLED
>LCD
>LED
fuck you, make a good monitor and fuck off and everything else gets fucked off to special interests

>>106250903
LG 27GX700A

Is this a good deal? $100 dollars off and a free 7800X3D.

>>106250903
>make a good monitor
What is a good monitor?

I was gonna flash the bios for my 9800x3d and noticed this sticker. Any anons who have happened to buy a tuf b650 plus lately? Can I trust this MB has the latest bios needed for 9000 ryzen or should I flash bios regardless?

>>106250971
>latest
definitely no
but should be safe to boot and update later

>>106250919
>5090
>7800x3d
my dude if you're going all in you have to go atleast 9800x3d

Why does MSI afterburner not let me see VRAM temps anymore?

>>106246955
Wouldn't the 5070 super just make the 5070ti obsolete?

>>106251036
msi afterburner sensors barely work to begin with. people use hwinfo64 instead. the only reason people still keep msi afterburner is easy nvidia overclocking.

>>106250735
Buy a 9600x and wait

>>106251042
Remember the 3080 10gb? Remember the 4070ti? This isn't the first time they have fucked everyone. Your answer is yes.

what is that?

>>106248951
>>106249239
>>106249539
Lol is mutahar lurking the general? That's pretty funny.

>>106250690
wait for 5k Gsync pulsar

>>106250903
Everything has downsides or deal breaking "features"/issues, the best deal to deal with this is just having enough money to the point of which you don't care and just pay the fee and live with downsides
it's the only way to keep your mental health

>>106250918
>1440p
>matte
double no

>>106251231
Provides supplemental power to the motherboard and CPU beyond what the 24-pin ATX connector does. It's not an absolute must but for beefier gaming systems it's a good idea to plug it in if your PSU/Mobo comes with the option.

>>106250690
yes, lots of those exist. but be warned, DPI scaling in your OS is mandatory and not everything scales correctly.

>>106250903
I JUST WANT SOMETHING SIMPLE LIKE MY OLD ASUS VG248QE THE UNDISPUTED GOAT FOR VALUE AND PERFORMANCE AND IT STILL RUNS STRONG A DECADE LATER!

>>106251311
>5k
Man I run a 3080 and can barely run 4k. Though I see that acer has a 32 inch 4k ips at 160hz.
>tfw upgrading from my xb27hu to another xb monitor
>>106251338
>DPI scaling in your OS is mandatory and not everything scales correctly.
I know, scaling is and will always be a nightmare.

>>106251327
I'm pretty sure a modern system won't POST without at least 1 EPS plugged in.

>>106251349
>90% srgb 1080p TN
pure ass
>RUNS STRONG A DECADE LATER
buy a 4k 160hz IPS 300 dollar monitor and go to sleep for another decade + daily prayers that it lasts a decade

>>106251356
>and can barely run 4k
does not matter
what matters is pulsar, strobing+vrr, 660hz clarity at 165hz!
will be interesting whenever these release >>106250398

>>106250951
OLED without burn in.

>>106251311
>Gsync pulsar
I remember Asus wanted to release a Pulsar monitor this year but it still hasn't been released yet. Is there even a single monitor that has this yet or in near future other than the Asus one?

>>106251327
so it's just regular 8pin with stupid name?

>>106251412
high resolution does not matter if you need to use DPI scaling in the OS.

>>106251422
>I remember Asus wanted to release a Pulsar monitor this year but it still hasn't been released yet. Is there even a single monitor that has this yet or in near future other than the Asus one?
I wonder if Nvidia ran into some issues with it. I haven't heard much of it since Computex:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1KDWb0tWcM&t=724s
HUBTim mentions here expecting models toward the end of Q3 with Acer in September along with ASUS/MSI.

What is SM count? Does Memory Bus size matter? From this chart the 5070ti still looks significantly stronger.

>>106251426
They both use Molex Mini-Fit Jr connectors but the keying and voltages are different. You shouldn't be able to fit the wrong one but if you do your PC will be in for a bad day.

https://allpinouts.org/pinouts/connectors/power_supply/eps12v-eatx12v-8-pin/
https://allpinouts.org/pinouts/connectors/power_supply/pci-express-pcie-8pin-power/

>>106251479
stronger than what? each one up the stack is stronger than the last.

>>106251412
>>106251422
What is this pulsar stuff?

is that AOC Q27G3XMN still good? I want something with higher hz that doesnt burn i

I use a syncmaster p2250. that's pretty old

>>106251502
I have some shit with a gtx 1080 but I might upgrade it to play BF6 with friends if it doesn't suck

>>106251498
Stronger than the non TI.
Is 20 of whatever SM count a big difference?

>>106251479
More Cuda cores are better
Faster memory speed is also better

>>106251492
what confuses is corsairs modular PSUs
there is nothing to differentiate it on the unit
like where am I supposed to plug it in?

>>106251502
theres 1k+ miniled zone panels now
one from aoc, another from ktc

aoc has history of extreme cost cutting and removing useful features like use upgradable firmware so beware

oled is the better experience and you're better off with burn in anyway

>>106251513
yes the 5070 ti is always going to be stronger than the 5070.

>>106251479
>What is SM count?
SM = Stream Multiprocessor. A cluster of CUDA cores and other components. More SMs means a bigger, and therefore generally more powerful, GPU die.

>Does Memory Bus size matter?
Yes and no. What actually matters (for performance) is the total memory bandwidth of which bus width is a significant component. Roughly speaking, bandwidth = bus width x clock speed x transfers per clock.
The width itself is actually limited by the physical size of the die. You can only fit so many connectors on the edge so a smaller die means a lower width but you can compensate by increasing the memory clock or pump rate.

>From this chart the 5070ti still looks significantly stronger.
It probably will be. The main draw of the 5070S will be the increased memory capacity. Sadly increasingly necessary for 1440p/4k gaming.

>>106244184

they like run nine to one maybe

>>106251598
Thanks for the info. I'm going from a gtx960 to something so I know anything will be a huge upgrade but it's still confusing all these different versions. But it still works and the main game I want to upgrade for isn't going to be ready for another year or two so I still can't decide if I should wait for the 6000 generation.

>>106251422
>Is there even a single monitor
acer one upcoming like in the pic there

>>106251449
>t. fentanyl user
cmon man

>>106251500
it's Strobing+VRR synced together at the same time so you get insane clarity+smoothness
wonder if it will destroy your eyes though since strobing is flickering
currently to get strobing to work you need to be at a locked stable fps and to run strobing without sync on, some old asus monitors had variants that had it working with vrr before I think

>>106251628
Best not to try to gauge performance form spec sheets. Least of all """leaked""" ones. Wait for benchmarks and real pricing/availability.

Are these 2077 perfs good enough for 5070ti undervolted 2650 at 850mv +1000 memory clock and 9800x3d -20 co all cores?
Saw anon posted that he got 95 fps with the same hardwares, i would like to know your settings if you're here.
https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/106119703/#q106120740

>buy 2160p display
>use OS scaling at 150%
>2160p is now 1440p
???

>>106251638
>strobing
I think I'll pass on that.

>>106251628
it's more important to decide what resolution you're going to play at, and how much you care about turning on all the features like ray tracing and high resolution textures in new games.

>>106251717
how severe is your mental retardation

>>106251717
The pixels don't physically grow...

>>106251741
>expose fraud
>LOL RETARD
???

>>106244451
holy shit I just realized the colors were set to WARM by something instead of NORMAL fuck this monitor and all these gay ass features.

btw. does brightness level have ANY impact on power consumption? or is the variance between like 10 and 90 like <10W?

>>106251733
Don't care about ray tracing, but I would like to try 4k. I'm going to be sitting about 6 feet away from the screen so I was thinking about getting a 42 inch tv. Maybe one of the older LG C ones to test out oled. I'm used to playing games at the lowest settings with 20fps so I would be fine playing at medium or high settings getting 60-120fps that would be massive for me.
But maybe I am shooting too high and should get 1440p instead. I for sure want at least 32 inch screen, I'm using 27 inch right now and it's too small being so far away I have to use 720p resolution to just make things readable.
But all this scaling scaremongering makes me worry that 4k would be a bad choice since I'm not sitting near the screen.

>>106251780
70 class is more than strong enough for 4k, especially if you don't care about ray tracing, the 5070 super would probably have enough VRAM for high res textures too. if you're deadset on nvidia.
reference this to see what you should be aiming for if you don't want to use scaling.
>>106244184

I'm kinda getting buyers remorse for getting 5060 ti over 5070, but I wanted more of that "premium" nvidia ram

>>106251873
does it not play your gaymes or something?

>>106251877
it's better value at raw performance
but couldn't fit my gooner AI models in it

>>106251717
guess you haven't heard of anti-aliasing

>>106251877
the extra ram doesnt actually translate to more fps and most games are just inferior experience thanks to the lost 30% of frames from not using 5070

https://news.samsung.com/global/samsung-launches-world-first-micro-rgb-setting-new-standard-for-premium-tv-technology

I wonder what they used in the previous microled tvs if not rgb

>>106251915
that's not why people pay for VRAM. it's one of those things where you either have enough to enable features and increase texture quality, or you don't.

>>106251912
relevance?

>>106251780
6 feet away = buy a tv, there is no alternative. And a 5070super for a 4k tv is kinda retarded, you'll want the next step up at least unless you want to be gimped at 60fps permanently without gimmicks like dlss, which doesnt exist for many games and never will.

>>106252004
So I have to get a 5080?

>>106251999
I dunno, you tell me

>>106252060
no the 80 class is for retards. just use upscaling in your games.

>>106252066
you don't even understand what's being discussed.

>>106252060
Save your money for super variant if you want 4k.

>>106252083
I understand exactly, its you who is too dumb to understand the implications

>>106252060
i'd probably wait and paypig for a 5070ti-super (assuming it exists) or a 5080 super imo. 16 gigs wont really be enough ram at 4k for all games.
>>106252075
is illiterate/shilling/retarded, not every game will have DLSS, most of the indie titles i toy around with, some with high requirements, do not have it as the devs can't spare the dev-time to work it. Wait for the super variants.

>>106251717
correct

>>106251729
might be eye raping, maybe not, idk
depends on genetics too

>>106251752
the average vision can see beyond 4k res at 27/32" at typical desk distance refer to link here >>106248023
(again) since you are probably the same guy that did not read it for the 3rd 4th 5th time or whatever

>>106245431
Picrel is still running stable. Not a single crash or freeze. I recommend not to crank up the PBO Scalar. The little performance gain is not worth the higher voltages and potentially shorter CPU life.

>>106252143
>depends on genetics
I don't know if we can claim genetics will help with any of this shit.

>>106252096
so antialiasing makes things large enough to see at a normal sitting distance without OS scaling?

>>106252308
it is if you can tolerate the flickering or not without getting headaches

PLEASE AMD RESTOCK THE 9950X3D

>>106252407
Staring at computers all day does eye damage though.

>>106252430
says who?

>>106252435
Says me trust me ;___;

>>106252430
if you are prone to not being able to tolerate flickering and get headaches migranes and get sick from staring at flickering you won't be able to degrade your eyes long enough to do that

Monitors will never be good until you can get 360 degree wraparound no burn in OLED 1000hz refresh.

>>106252568
Why the hell would I want 360 degree wrap around?

>>106252578
Immersion silly. Imagine playing modded skyrim and you can look in any direction. It's like VR but without the gay headset.

>>106252568
OLED 1000hz is an actual milestone though, the problem is that with how GPUs are going there will be no games running at 1000hz for decades

>>106252605
>you can look in any direction
I can do that with a mouse lol

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>>106251042
depends on he price drop and if there are any in sock/still being produced

>>106250732
TRUTH
NUKE