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Previous thread: >>106234789

>>106247023 (OP)
I like Linux to a point

>>106247027
You deserve to be banned for that. Linus is a family man with a wife and children. Probably the least communist paedophile you'd ever meet.

>>106247054
>the least communist paedophile you'd ever meet

So, are you saying he's a capitalist pedophile?

I got 32bit debian setup on my vaio ux along with trinity desktop its pretty comfy, anyone know what mpv options i need to get it to run nicely? see hw in the neofetch its an old machine. I can paly 360p video in youtube on firefox but on mpv the video lags and i get audio desync, the yt website is giga bloat and slow so but can cope with the palyback so id imagine mpv should be able too ive been running with --ytdl-format=18 to get 360p i assume i need some options to make it run nicely on this hw

>>106247094
I don't think you'd see him hanging out with the likes of Epstine if that's what you're asking.
Linus is probably the most normal person you'd ever meet. I don't know his operating system kernel attracted all the weirdos.

>>106247051
>but your system might be too old to support any hw acceleration
yeah im kinda tempted to get a broadcom crystal hd video card to replace the wifi card which will provide hw aceel for up to 180p 8bit colour i have one in a apply tv first gen it works well but then id have to get a usb wifi dongle

>>106247106
--profile=fast or --profile=sw-fast if it doesn't have hardware decode anyway.

Posting from last thread:
Trying to use Pcmanfm-QT as my file manager and I've got it working except for when it's the file chooser it has no icons. This only happens in Hyprland. Has anyone else encountered this and fixed it by chance? It's only somewhat annoying but I'd like to keep using pcmanfm-qt over dolphin.

>>106247094
Just a garden variety Trotskyite.

>>106247114
Sorry, I'm just being an arse. He seems like a nice guy, Autism before it became corrupt.

>>106247114
>normal person
Being a woketard commie isn't normal but the kernel itself far exceeds anything else right now. There's a fine line between genius and insanity.

How hard is it to set up limine+snapshots on Arch? Can't decide between Arch and CachyOs.

>>106247161
Linux was a hobby for him, he gave it away because he didn't see the value in it but it's probably the best decision he ever made because it was a paid/commercial project I don't think it would ever have enjoyed the success that it has done. The reason Linux is in absolutely anything everything now is explicitly because it's free for anyone to go and grab and use and as you say, there's not much else better than it.

>>106247122
yeah neither of these work its too shit lol guess ill get a crystalhd

>>106247106
its the yt-dlp bad default of av1 codec too heavy for your cpu
i use my own youtube client that defaults to use h264 with mpv and has no performance problems
i also use it to browse youtube since it is much faster than using a web browser for it

Who should own the files created by a service? The main user 1000:1000? A dedicated system user without ssh access?

>>106247585
It depends on the service and intended use of the files, neither of which you have shared, so you should probably just chown them to a nonexistent user ID for maximum security.

>>106247632
the services are running on an home server. I am the only one accessing the files. I thought I would make things more secure letting the containers run with a login-less system user but I found out most containers are mapped to run as 1000:1000 both internally ad externally. right now I have a partition for the system and a large partition for media file. one is mounted on / and the other in /home. having different ownership for the shared files and services is generating many headaches with directories without write access and similar issues. I am considering turning off the services, unmounting the bigger partition and remounting it somewhere like /srv/nas while keeping the services in a side directory in /srv/docker. I think there's something fundamentally wrong with my original setup which is generating needless attrition during maintenance. I am curious about what logic other people follow when managing services and the media files generated by them

>>106247690
If you're using rootless podman you can solve the container id mapping issue with --userns keep-id:uid=1000,gid=1000

>>106247690
It should be possible to map container users to arbitrary host machine users, so I'd start there because your original plan doesn't seem like a terrible way to do things

Don't know if I should ask here or in /sqt/ but how the fuck do I install games? I'm on openSUSE Tumbleweed, followed like ten different tutorials but still get the same error with both repacks I downloaded.

>>106247964
>how the fuck do I install games
Add the setup to whatever launcher you use (steam as a nonsteam game, lutris, bottles, faugus, etc, they should all work) and redirect to the game executable when it's done
>repacks
If I have to get a repack I get DODI, I've never had an issue decompressing one of those

What the hell is wrong with Snapper that it isn't cleaning up old Snapshots? I set my limit to 10, yet it's currently storing 24. It's meant to clean up excessive Snapshots older than an hour, yet it has failed to do so. Running sudo snapper cleanup number doesn't clean them up, and I've seen snapper-cleanup.timer come and go without cleaning up my Snapshots. WTF is going on?

>>106248041
# subvolume to snapshot
SUBVOLUME="/"

# filesystem type
FSTYPE="btrfs"


# btrfs qgroup for space aware cleanup algorithms
QGROUP=""


# fraction or absolute size of the filesystems space the snapshots may use
SPACE_LIMIT="0.5"

# fraction or absolute size of the filesystems space that should be free
FREE_LIMIT="0.2"


# users and groups allowed to work with config
ALLOW_USERS=""
ALLOW_GROUPS=""

# sync users and groups from ALLOW_USERS and ALLOW_GROUPS to .snapshots
# directory
SYNC_ACL="no"


# start comparing pre- and post-snapshot in background after creating
# post-snapshot
BACKGROUND_COMPARISON="yes"


# run daily number cleanup
NUMBER_CLEANUP="yes"

# limit for number cleanup
NUMBER_MIN_AGE="3600"
NUMBER_LIMIT="10"
NUMBER_LIMIT_IMPORTANT="10"


# create hourly snapshots
TIMELINE_CREATE="no"

# cleanup hourly snapshots after some time
TIMELINE_CLEANUP="yes"

# limits for timeline cleanup
TIMELINE_MIN_AGE="3600"
TIMELINE_LIMIT_HOURLY="10"
TIMELINE_LIMIT_DAILY="10"
TIMELINE_LIMIT_WEEKLY="0"
TIMELINE_LIMIT_MONTHLY="10"
TIMELINE_LIMIT_QUARTERLY="0"
TIMELINE_LIMIT_YEARLY="10"


# cleanup empty pre-post-pairs
EMPTY_PRE_POST_CLEANUP="yes"

# limits for empty pre-post-pair cleanup
EMPTY_PRE_POST_MIN_AGE="3600"

>>106248039
>DODI
That's one of the two I downloaded.
>Add the setup to whatever launcher
I tried multiple launchers, same error every time

>>106248086
If NUMBER_CLEANUP="yes", and NUMBER_LIMIT="10", what am I missing?

>>106247964
Didn't some anon say that these repacks don't really work under Wine/Proton because they use some weird compression mechanism which isn't supported? Or am I hallucinating this?

Does anyone have an up to date tutorial for running 32 bit windows games on linux?

I am a 30 year old boomer and can't effectively use the new google, but it seems that recently Wine deprecated 32 bit programs?

>>106248519
>but it seems that recently Wine deprecated 32 bit programs?
The new wine can still run 32 bit programs

>>106248519
I run 32 bit games in 64 bit wine just fine.

>>106248519
>but it seems that recently Wine deprecated 32 bit programs?
They would be stupid to do that.

>>106248218
I couldn't even get single-folder games to work.

>>106248041
>>106248086
>>106248099
Snapper's cleaning service doesn't clean "non-empty pre-post snapshots".

A couple of threads ago someone posted a oneliner that pipes yt-dlp to fzf essentially making simple cli youtube browser. I decided to work on that idea a little bit as I know fzf has some features that could be useful here, like a preview or playlist creation (tab to mark videos to play).

#!/bin/bash

set -euo pipefail

[[ $# -eq 0 ]] || [[ "$1" == "--help" ]] && echo "Usage: ${0##*/} SEARCH" && exit

fn_preview () {
yt-dlp "$1" --simulate \
--print " Channel: %(uploader_url)s" \
--print " Video: %(webpage_url)l" \
--print " Uploaded: %(upload_date>%Y-%m-%d)s" \
--print "" \
--print "%(description)s" 2>/dev/null
}

export -f fn_preview

fn_exec_mpv () {
mpv "$@" --player-operation-mode=pseudo-gui --force-window=immediate &
}

export -f fn_exec_mpv

yt-dlp "ytsearch30:$*" --simulate --flat-playlist --print "%(webpage_url)s %(duration>%H:%M:%S|LIVE •)s %(title)s" 2>/dev/null \
| fzf \
--multi \
--info inline \
--no-mouse \
--layout reverse \
--with-nth 2.. \
--preview "fn_preview {1}" \
--preview-window wrap \
--bind "enter:execute:fn_exec_mpv {+1}"

>>106248519
Wine10 and Proton10 support WOW64. 32bit games should work if you use those as runners. If you use anything older, it's up to your distribution to provide 32bit dependencies required by Wine/Proton before v10.
I run all my games either through Steam (run with Proton) or through Bottles (usually with the default runner) and I never have issues.

>>106248675
That's sounds very odd. Perhaps you're trying to run 32bit games? They're not supported by default unless you install 32bit Linux dependencies, or if you use Wine/Proton v10.

What's with all the Wayland hate I've seen recently? I've been out of the loop.

>>106248791
It's a psyop

>>106248768
>That's sounds very odd. Perhaps you're trying to run 32bit games?
Nope, the game went 64bit a few years ago, which was greatly needed for the RAM limit. I probably just did something wrong, since I'm not that familiar with gaming on Linux yet.

>>106248768
There are, however, 32bit games that use 16bit installers (for some reason) and those won't run on wow64 (same problem for windows users).
Wine giving you the option to run some 32bit Windows did improve its compatibility with old games, it's a shame they threw it out.

Why is programming in Python a problem in NixOS?

>>106248697
Seriously????

>>106248041
>>106248697
Timeshift bros stay winning

>>106248817
Ok, can we just do a sanity check with a game that should definitely work?

https://kay-yu.itch.io/holocure

In Bottles:
1. Create new bottle (select "Gaming")
2. Inside your Gaming bottle open the menu in the upper right and select "Browse files"
3. Go into "Program Files" and create a new folder called "HoloCure" and open it
4. Drag all the files from "Holocure.zip" into this new folder
5. Back in Bottles go to "Add shortcuts" and go into drive_c>Program Files>HoloCure>HoloCure.exe
6. Now click the "Play" button next to your newly created shortcut

This should open the game and you should be able to play it. In this case you'll be defaulted to Wine 9 (Bottles uses a custom version of Wine called Soda), but the game works fine for me.

>>106248791
>recently
You've never been in the loop to begin with.

>>106249037
Sure. So what's wrong with it?

>>106249000
Yeah, I didn't do any of those steps before, lol. I'll copy that and use it as a template when I can try to install the game again.

>>106248883
because nixos can't magically fix the shitshow that is python

>>106249084
But all other distros can?

>>106248041
>>106248086
Maybe this is because no cleanup algorithm is defined for these snapshots. The question is...why not?

>>106249058
Old guards have been desperately clinging to X11's lifeblood and trying to make it somehow useful and relevant again. X11Libre recently got forked from Xorg after the developer got booted from Freedesktop.org and supporters have been trying to use this as a catalyst to rally behind.

The trouble is, X11 has never been all that great and it still stinks even now. They have a lot of work to do to make it relevant in any capacity again. It doesn't help that all of the big corporations are still supporting X.org (which is essentially maintenance only at this point) and X11Libre still hasn't managed to fix any of the problems that Wayland was designed to address. At best they have one single innovation which is a new protocol/extension that uses a tagging mechanism to allow for more fine-grained control over permissions (an answer to the improved security Wayland offers), except this is completely brand new and barely documented: https://github.com/X11Libre/xserver/blob/master/doc/Xnamespace.md

Been out of tiling window managers space for some time now, is Hyprland as good as KDE for gaming or it's a pain the ass?

>>106247133
Install the breeze theme (make sure breeze-icons is installed) and use qt5ct or qt6ct (depending on the qt version that lxqt tools is using in your distro) to set the theme. That should work, but in case it doesn't jewgle "archwiki qt consistent theming" and read the fucking manual

>>106249299
Hyprland is pretty much the same as KDE, HDR works too. I think you have to do some extra setup if using an Nvidia card but that's it (for HDR).

>>106249364
Does Hyprland also have calibration and ICC profile support?
Last I looked into it, which was admittedly a while ago now, it didn't have any real support for management was just an off/on switch.

>>106249058
Its being forced too hard when its not really ready yet. Even some de and wm like gnome kde sway are lacking things compared to the x11 counterpart. But outside of those three, and i guess hyprland and whatever else ive missed. The rest of the de and wms are not yet ready for wayland or are only in alpha/beta status. And every time theres an x11 feature from wayland missing that many of those desktops depend on it always turns into months to year long arguments by the wayland comittee or whatever that group on freedesktop is called to actually settle on something before it can progress out of the planning stage.
So basically theres nothing wrong for now with still using x11 if you have no issues with it.
There's also that github gist list by probonopd the appimage guy of all the issues wayland had though i think its not kept up-to-date

>>106249299
Fullscreen games on wine used to have issues on hyprland but i dont know if that got fixed.

>>106249382
Not sure, IIRC you need to do some workaround for ICC, but maybe it's old news now. I pretty much only run steam games and everything works.

>>106248768
Does that mean I no longer need half a 32 bit userspace just to run 32 bit exes in wine?

>>106249207
Nope, no one can.

>>106249409
Only issue I've had is the game not grabbing the mouse, which you won't even notice unless you have multiple monitors.

Trying out mint
So far, general operations feel a little sluggish
Almost like my general desktop is moving at a lower framerate
Theres also a noticeable delay using my scroll wheel

>use ubuntu
>no issues
>everything just works
Ah. Life on easy mode.

>updated system
>X11 is completely broken now and kwin crash loops, making everything flash on screen
>kwin_scene_opengl: Could not delete framebuffer because no context is current
>flameshot also broken and shows a jumbled mess of my monitors when trying to capture
>after logging in, the splash screen is stretched and glitched across my monitors as well
>none of this happens on wayland
>in return, wayland has other issues such as remote desktop not working on multiple screens
i must TROUBLESHOOOOOOT

>>106249501
yes

>>106249628
Cinnamon is known for being clunky. Mint sadly doesn't offer the only two "real" Linux DEs (KDE and GNOME).

>>106249628
Disable wayland or compositing. If you're on nvidia install the nvidia drivers.

>>106249780
What's a good alternative to Mint that offers those?

>>106249790
Ubuntu/Kubuntu, PikaOS, Debian 13

>>106249780
>real
Real bloated.

>>106249547
The issue i had was that it was crashing on fullscreen or the windowed desktop mode wouldnt properly fullscreen

>>106249803
he means real shit

>>106249822
never had such a problem, luckily

>>106249693
Americans love it

>>106249928
That's a map of Africa, not the USA

>>106249972
Not a big difference.

>>106250010
The US isn't overrun by Africans, it's overrun by Latinxes. It's easy to think otherwise since blacks are massively over-represented in American media.

>>106247094
In the late 90s, the world was still normal. Linus is from before all the crazyness of last decennia and just thinks technical not political. Zoomers will not understand probably

>>106247964 (me)
>continued trying to install repacks
>eventually installer stopped responding (timer was running but couldn't close it)
>force close it by killing application
>system monitor freezes
>try to shut system down
>no response
>hold power button to shut it off

And now my whole OS if fucked. PC crashes when trying to reinstall the system.

Great

i have debian 13 and i want to install dumb stuff like davinci resolve, notepad++, obs, kde connect
what is the most optimal way to install these so they can be updated with apt or something similar instead of downloading every new version off internet?

Guys, I'm trying to set up a network namespace. I can send ping requests from the new namespace to interfaces in the default namespace and vice versa, but ping requests from within the new namespace to non-local machines fail.
Here is the output of ip address and ip route in both namespaces: https://privatebin.net/?20bc87ed49173fee#B2oKSBkpBgU9ke4qbQ96F4SE3rbmFw1LxA2z7N2ErZxi

What did I do wrong ?

am i the only one who cant access arch linux website?

>>106250609
I can't either.

>>106247964
>>106250463
That's fucking weird. Never had issues like that. I'm just using lutris to run the executables.

>>106250609
I can access it but it's very slow

>>106250463
What the fuck is going on with opensuse lol

>>106250565
Did you setup NAT translation between the namespace and the outside world?

How are you setting up the namespace? The usual approach is to use a veth pair between the host and namespace and then you use iptables MASQUERADE rules to do IP translation.

>>106240592
Nothing shows up any different on the terminal.

And when I was searching for a solution I found this: https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/file-transfer-from-android-to-fedora-42-works-in-live-image-not-in-installed-system/153833
Basically people are saying this isn't working. I'm using an old iPhone Six if that means anything, but I think the Fedora Project might be aware of the problem at this point.

>>106249790
Aurora

>>106250463
OpenSUSE is a meme distro which nobody uses on desktops. It's only used on some office computers in Europe.
That being said, I really can't think of a reason why this would happen on it.
>PC crashes when trying to reinstall the system.
At this point it might just be a hardware issue.

>>106250463
This is NOT normal under any circumstance. Especially since it crashes from an install medium.
Have you tested another disk? Maybe it's fucked.

>>106251086
Haven't really tried anything just yet. It crashes during
>detecting hardware

>>106250973
>At this point it might just be a hardware issue.
I'm afraid...

>>106250886
Hmmm. You could try doing it from a live usb then, as a temporary solution, no?

What about Syncthing?

>>106250837
>The usual approach is to use a veth pair between the host and namespace
I did that but not the masquerade part.

I spent the whole day testing out nobara, pikaos and cachyos.
I learned the following things;
Nobara is uncomfortable
Cachy has amazing performance but feels like shit idk whats up with that
Pika goes kinda hard but takes ages to boot for some weird ass reason.
Gnome as a DE is underrated and wayland is for niggers.

>>106250542
Bump
t. different anon

>>106250463
See: >>106249693

Is there a foss firewall that works on Ubuntu that can block at the domain level?

Hello
Some anons yesterday suggested me to fire a live Kubuntu stick to get a better feel of it, as KDE Plasma being is seemingly the best interface option for someone coming from a Windows enviroment (versus Ubuntu's GNOME). It indeed is an eye-candy. But I got a few issues. Namely, is it common for bootable live to not recognize connected devices?

>>106251574
That's why you have no Internet access then because your network namespace isn't actually on your network so you need to do NAT between the source address of your namespace and the outgoing destination address of your host ethernet adapter.

I can post my script if you need it.

>>106251863
what device ?

>>106251815
This is best done on your router but you can write a script to do this if you had to:
>Bash script gets list of addresses (dig +short HOST / dig +short HOST AAAA for IPv6)
>Add IP addresses to NFTables set
>Block any src/DST address in the NFTables set

Want it to be automatic instead of polling? DNSMasq can add IP addresses to an NFTables set or IPset.

>>106251187
I’m at work but if I’m not too tired I can look it up and maybe give it a shot. Thanks anon.

>>106251929
You know that multiple domains can map to a single IP, right?

>>106251863
>is it common for bootable live to not recognize connected devices?
depends on what you mean by "connected devices". If it's anything that requires newer drivers or proprietary drivers, then it's possible it wouldn't work.

>>106251815
OpenSnitch

>>106250542
>>106251724
DaVinci Resolve relies on it's own updater afaik.
Notepad++ isn't available on Linux as far as I know, but there's Notepadqq. Just get it from Flathub.
Same with OBS, get it from Flathub.
KDE Connect would normally be provided by KDE Plasma. But if you're not using Plasma I think you can still download it from your distro's repository. And since you're on Debian, expect it to be stuck on the same version for 2 years.

>>106251939
No worries. Report back when you get to it, take it easy.

>>106251815
add evil domain to hosts file

I'm using mpv with vaapi to play h264 files.
However when I increase the playback speed the cpu temps get hot and the CPU is being utilized.
What's wrong with this?

>>106251929
I was wondering if it's possible to block at the domain level itself and all subdomains like "google.com" or is it necessary to always grab the ip address and block the ip address?

>>106251944
Correct. It's impossible to distinguish between two domain names using the same IP address without DPI. Another reason this is best done on your router.

what the hell are flatpaks

>>106252114
>try to get mpv to use native vaapi decoding with opengl texture mapping
>it doesn't work
>only the stupid copy back mode works
I guess the idiots broke it. Upgrade to an older release of mpv.

what's the appeal of scrolling wms like niri?
I'm reading the documentation and this obviously is intended to solve a certain problem or be used in a certain way, but I dont quite know what it is

>>106247027

these are people i find this funny

>>106252243
Tablets or vertical monitors.

>>106252203
>>106252114
Upgrade to Vulkan Video Decoding

Just want to let you know that pic related is great. Fuck Obsidian and fuck org-mode

>>106252350
how does that help?
>tfw on sandy bridge

>>106252350
>[ffmpeg/video] h264: Device does not support the VK_KHR_video_decode_queue extension!
Eat shit, deoptimizing retard.

>>106251908
>>106251945
It is a drawing tablet. I mean, yeah, the basic was there (up to pen pressure), but no key (pen nor tablet) was detected. I will still consider the idea of swapping flavors a bit further, Plasma is really pretty

>>106252422
yeah that's probably the kind of things that need their own driver, don't know what to tell you more than searching your model of tablet + linux on the internet or arch wiki

>>106250776

they maybe had meltdown and are recovering from gathering?

>>106252368
Get a sub-$200 stinkpad with Vulkan capable graphics.

im trying to switch from firefox to a different browser but i cant find one right for me, i want something thats customisable like qutebrowser but where shit like adblock works well, and can have more emacs-like bindings instead of the vim bindings in qutebrowser

>>106252184

i have not looked it much maybe is like ex room where you do ex stuff fireroom for flame stuff on which computer these run i do not know

>>106252184
flatpak is a package manager for sandboxed apps called flatpaks, basically you can install for example alacritty with flatpak instead of your distro's package manager and it will be sandboxed

>>106249299
>read the fucking manual
I did, and it told me you're a fucking nigger

>>106252505
maybe an extension for a firefox fork ? i use librewolf, it removes bullshit from mozarella (but you might get the same result from arkenfox/betterfox/whatever)

>>106252741
the thing is another problem i have with firefox is the devs are absolute retards and theres still decade old issues that are very trivial and they dont give a shit about such as the lack of support for xdg base directories like ~/.config instead of ~/.mozilla, librewolf still has this problem for example, idk why.

also librewolf is still nowhere near as customisable as qutebrowser, as its limited by what firefox itsself can do

Might as well post here too.
Where the fuck do I go from there?
>Played game fine in the past.
>Uninstalled it some time ago.
>Reinstalled today.
>Launched without changing any settings.
Doesn't launch, just gets stuck.
>Force quit game with stop button.
>Try bunch of different proton(ge) versions.
Same shit
>Delete compatdata 0, game's number and relevant shadercache folder.
Still same story.
Sometimes it compiles Vulkan cache, but still doesn't work.
>Try Wine3d
Nope.
>Uninstalled and reinstalled multiple times.
Nuh uh
>Rebooted as a desperate boomer move.
Of course not.
???????????
Just WTH is going on?

>>106252841
you're shit out of luck like everyone else that doesnt want to suck chromes dick
your best bet is to use firefox developer edition or zen browser, and then customizing tridactyl

>>106252901
Try steam and use proton experimental.

>>106252901
>>Played game fine in the past.
what did you use to launch it and run it?

Are you dual booting Windows and Linux? Don't, but sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do. If you are, do this:
Control Panel > Hardware and Sound > Power Options > Choose what the power buttons do > Change settings that are currently unavailable > Uncheck ‘Turn on fast startup (recommended)’ > Save changes

You're welcome.

>>106252936
I am already on steam, how is this implicature not obvious?
Experimental is already among many proton versions I tried.

>>106252947
Not sure but GE 9-25 possibly.
Which was the first version it tried to launch with (unchanged settings, remember?) and just got stuck on launching.

>>106252901
>>106252936
>>106252947
From limited testing I seem to be able to launch other games and wine apps fine btw, it's just this specific game that my system is completely shitting itself with.

>>106252986
I had the same issue with Genshin. It opened and worked once. then never again. ZZZ worked, which is made by the same company. I switched to Steam. But if Steam is already not helping, then your fucked. Could the game be running in the background preventing new instances of the game from activating? How do you even check for that through a comparability layer.

>>106252919
i wonder how much of a pain in the ass is it to make your own browser when using an existing engine to calulate html layout and shit like that

>>106252901
>>106252986
Before someone says the game hasn't had any updates since last successful play that could break proton.
I used to play with a (non-workshop) mod, but the game also worked fine without it. I am not using any such modifications right now.
>>106253033
>Could the game be running in the background preventing new instances of the game from activating?
If that was the case reboot would have fixed that.
Which is not the case.
> then your fucked.
You know it would be interesting to know why at least.
This is completely bizarre.

>>106253077
>You know it would be interesting to know why at least.
Well, did you check the logs? Wine shits out a lot of data. I dunno how steam handles it but it has to be somewhere.

>>106253077
I know, why does shit work once then not again after going through the same path? Imagine the ducttape that keeps these compatibility layers together.

>>106253107
I think you need to set PROTON_LOG=1 and it throws it in ~

>>106253107
Yes I always launch steam on terminal to see them.
There is a lot but I am not seeing anything out of ordinary (I always get a lot of debug, warning and non critical errors messages)
I can post them somewhere if you are offering to check regardless.
>>106253128
Let me test if this adds anything else to the table.

>>106253107
>>106253134
PROTON_LOG=1 seems to give less info, interestingly.
Here is what I get after launch:
https://pastebin.com/7Y8y7S8b
Again, I get a lot of debug and warning messages commonly.
Most if not all of this should be nothingburger junk.

>>106253077
is this a pirated or cracked game?

>>106253339
Legit copy.

I got myself an external ssd, can I boot linux off of it or should I just dual boot?

>>106247023 (OP)
>Slashdot
>Abiword
>Gimp
>Audacious (or is that XMMS?)

I want to go back, but also kinda don't. The pre-CoC days when the loonix community was more about talking shop than posting the same boring i3 desktops were more fun, but at the same time less stuff worked so Linux was largely a toy unless your specific use cases aligned with the capabilities it had at the time. I miss the days of stallmanposting, I miss the vibes of those times.

I’ve been trying to get steam input to work with the 8bitdo pro 2 and the rumble doesn’t work and neither do the back buttons. The strange part is steam definitely recognizes the controller but the option to test those features isn’t even there. Anyone know what’s going on?

>catchyOS
>steam is on beta channel
>controller has the latest firmware installed

>>106252901
After more than two hours, I managed to "bypass" the problem by upgrading the NWJS engine that comes with the game.
BUT it used to work fine out of the box on Linux, so there is still some unexplained mystery BS going on here.
Regardless thank you to anyone chiming in.
I am still interested in what might be causing it. If you have any ideas feel free to share.

Okay bros, it has (unfortunately) become time for me to learn Docker. But my question isn't about Docker. It's actually even more retarded:
How the fuck do I scroll up in the terminal?

I'm using Fedora Server 42 on Hyper-V. I tried scrolling up with my mouse wheel out of instinct, which of course doesn't work because there's no mouse input (which is fine, because I'm just using it to host Docker containers). So I googled it and I've seen Ctrl + Shift + Up, Shift + PageUp, and some random unconventional stuff (that were probably wrong in the first place) suggested. None of it works. I feel like I'm overcomplicating this, but I genuinely can not figure it out.

>>106253623
The keybinds vary depending on the terminal, it's usually one the combinations you've tried already. Also terminals usually do support wheel scrolling. I dunno which one you're using, feature sets might vary depending on that.
There's the chance that the vm hypervisor is swallowing ctrl+shift

>>106253410
bro it is available on the aur. cachyos has paru by default. use it.

>>106253623
That's looks like a VM with either a linux console or a serial connection in it, not a usual terminal emulator, so it probably depends.

>>106253623
im gonna sidestep the issue and recommend you install and launch tmux, scrolling with ctrl+b+[

What advantages does an immutable distro have over a traditional one using snapshots with rollback?

>>106254209
immutable distros are stupid for desktop. only acceptable distro is arch linux or cachyos if you are a noob

>>106254209
>immutable
for desktops, none.
Reproducibility is what you would actually care about for a desktop install, and immutability is a bit of a side effect.

>>106254065
Has what available by default what are you talking about?

I switched to Linux.
So, where is my flying car, neon city nightlife and desperate struggle against cooperate power?

>>106254375
In the aur, autocorrected. I checked and just saw a udev rule for the ultimate 2.4ghz controller, nothing pertaining to what I use.

>>106254209
Background updates

I removed linux-zen using pacman -Rs linux-zen. Unfortunately whenever I system update now, the signing keeps bringing up this error.

failed signing /boot/vmlinuz-linux-zen: /boot/vmlinuz-linux-zen does not exist

How do I fix this so it stops trying to look for linux-zen during signing?

Is there a -help option for common linux programs (like apt) that will list all options and sub-options?

ive been out of the loop on a lot of things, why is systemd bad? not memeing im genuinely trying to understand

>>106254720
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, Systemd/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, Systemd plus Linux.

>>106254720
Bad technology, but that solves all the world's problems, just like Microsoft Windows.

>>106250463
Must be some hardware issue anon, try doing a memtest on grub.
>>106250973
>OpenSUSE is a meme distro which nobody uses on desktops.
OpenSUSE isn't a meme distro, i use it on my main pc, it's a really good distro in my opinion.

>>106254720
80 iq hobbywanks have to learn new things = bad

>>106254375
paru dude. we live in the age of chatgpt just ask it what paru is. after that just install the 8bitdo whatever drivers that pertain to your hardware and be done with it. its not rocket science.

>>106247161
>woketard commie
damn I wish he was woke and communist. he's just a regular guy.

>>106254490
Wait what there are distributions that automatically sign kernels? And what's the reason? Kernel isn't an EFI-executable? Right?
>>106253377
Yes you can, it's a Microsoft anti-feature to not allow it for Windows. Assumed you EFI-boot: the thing won't boot on other PCs, just saying case you thought it would.
>or should I just dual boot?
That scenario *is* dual booting lmao. All systems have their relevant boot entry, it's just one for Linux that sits on the said SSD.

its another episode of a retarded jewtuber fucking up and blames linux
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bute69Oj87I

I've been playing with Rocknix on a handheld recently and am finding it extremely difficult to work out how to reduce battery usage. I get a near-constant draw of 1.6 watts, even if I turn off the monitor (writing 4 to bl_power). None of this seems to really make changes.

I don't know how realistic this is but is there any user-land tricks I can pull to reduce power usage on these sorts of devices? I think I would get 8 hours of use right now but what I really want is 14 so it can serve as something for the full day, not just the first half.

>>106252184
modern packaging format which is meant to replace traditional packaging for most GUI software

>>106254209
Updates that don't fuck up your system

>>106253623
If this is the TTY / Linux Console (No GUI) then use Tmux like >>106253623 suggests, or better yet use SSH to the VM from Windows Terminal.

The built-in console used to have proper scroll back but Linus himself removed it for the code being too ugly and a source of security concerns over the years. Better to have no scroll back in the kernel than a potential security bug sitting and waiting.

>>106254946
Systemd is easy to learn there's just a lot of it because of how big its scope is.
>>106254720
Scope creep. Some people just want a simple init system and don't want an entire office suite with it.

Debian 13 any good?

>>106255461
Reviews seem positive but it's still Debian. If that's what you want then go for it but keep in mind its software may be fresh today but will quickly get outdated.

>>106255461
It's Debian. It'll be good for the first few months and then it'll just not get any feature updates until the next major version. So, just like always, good on servers but not desktops.

>>106255448
>don't want an entire office suite with it
Linux distributions are at least partially to blame as they tend to package the entirety of systemd into a singular systemd package.

>>106255461
For servers yes, old hardware yes.

>>106255470
>>106255476
I'm on Debian 12 for my desktop and it's fine. If I want newer software I can get it from Flathub, or Homebrew, or as AppImages, etc.

>>106255477
It doesn't help that it's not even clear how you should split the monolith up. The dependencies between things aren't always clear and install and usage instructions aren't clear either. For example, journald, resolved, timesyncd, coredumpd, etc, are all technically something that would and could be used standalone without Systemd as an init but good look finding any instructions on how it should be built and installed to get that to work.

Distros often take the cautious approach of "Let's install all of it" because it's not clear how it would work otherwise.

>>106255483
What if you want newer system software like drivers or your desktop environment?
You can't really get those from Flatpak. Flatpak is great for applications though.

>>106255483
Sure anon, but I prefer getting the latest drivers/libraries for muh games and the latest version of my DE.

>>106255508
>>106255521
Fair enough. I don't play recent games and I'm not too bothered if my DE is a bit older.

>>106255157
Well half of his problems are 100% the fault of Linux. If bazzite gives you shit performance out of the box, it has failed at the only thing it's supposed to be good at - "Install bazzite so you don't need to tinker to make your games work. "
The boot issue I'm not so sure who's at fault for.

With Docker, how would I let a container using gluetun have access to another container that's not on the same Docker network?

>>106255569
Use --link to link the two containers directly together?

>>106255544
He is dual booting so the booting issue it's his fault. He is dual booting with Windows and he installed that Fedora trash Bazzite. He is a double retard.

>>106255580
>>106255569
Although, apparently container linking is deprecated and Docker says you should just put them on the same network:
https://docs.docker.com/engine/network/links/

>>106255448
>Systemd is easy to learn there's just a lot of it
Even if you just look at the init part of it, there are so many ways to set up service dependencies with subtle differences it can be quite confusing.

is this what i think it is? kernel level anti-cheat for games?
https://www.phoronix.com/news/Linux-KFuzzTest

>>106255620
It's confusing but no more than a traditional init system that also has lots of different ways to launch daemons (for example, you have the classical forking daemon, which most stuff is discouraged from doing nowadays because it makes supervision harder, then you have stuff that runs in the foreground and needs to either be supervised properly or forced into the background pretending it's a forking daemon). Managing service life cycle is hard. Systemd just adds a bunch of extra stuff on top of this model like Type=notify which allows a service to communicate back to the init system to signal exactly when it's ready (this is quite useful, but can also lead to subtle bugs sometimes).

>>106255638
No. Fuzzing is a technique used by security researchers to throw garbage data at something and see how it reacts. The aim is to instrument it safely via a harness and if it crashes in an unexpected way then flag that for a human to look at. It's for finding bugs in software.

>>106255157
The boot issue is caused by Windows. Moral of the story is don't dual boot.
Everything else they did is perfectly reasonable, since you can't expect an average person to know they need to manually make a game run with the latest Proton (I assume they're testing the click and play experience)

How do I hook Snapper into PackageKit so that my PC automatically makes snapshots before Discover transactions?

>>106255878
PackageKit is just a front-end for whatever your systems package manager is so hook into that instead.

>>106255884
Apparently not. I already have automatic snapshots configured as a DNF hook, and it works as expected, yet it doesn't work with Discover.

>>106255888
I guess this is yet another example of PackageKit being a poor abstraction that's not fit for purpose. Plenty of people have criticised that in the past. It's probably a bug. If the system administrator configures a hook for the package manager then that should run under PackageKit too, no exceptions. It shouldn't matter that it's using some shitty library implementation instead of calling the tools directly, it should still run these hooks.

New(ish) Linux user here, currently using Ubuntu as my main OS
I just recently noticed that in the Software Updater I have the option to enable or disable Universe and Multiverse, which, as far as I understand, are software repositories that are not actively monitored or vetted by Canonical.
I already have all the programs I need installed, would something change or break if I disable those repos? Does that affect security updates and the like?

>>106255904
They still get updates sometimes. I would keep them enabled anyway because if you do happen to have something installed from it then you want to get those updates if they ever do make it into there.
>Not actively monitored/vetted doesn't mean they won't ever receive any attention

Why in the two thousand twenty fifth year of our lord is linux wifi setup on the CLI such a goddamn pain, and should I use old reliable wpa_supplicant or is the new Intel thing any good?

>>106255945
Just use a GUI

>>106255945
Iwd actually makes this way easier. Iwctl is actually designed for humans. No more hand editing config files like a retard.

>>106255953
No
>>106255957
Interesting, thanks

>>106255967
>No
Why not? You made that post using a GUI.

>>106255927
I see, I think I understand.
I literally only have whatever came preinstalled with Ubuntu itself, plus a couple completely mainstream programs like Firefox and Steam. Am I correct in thinking that Universe would only be a potential risk if I started downloading/installing less known software made by random community members and such?

What are the prerequisites I should know before trying to construct a "build it yourself" distro like arch or gentoo?

>>106256086
Watch an install guide on Youtube to get a feel for what kinds of general programs to install when you pacstrap the system.

>>106255899
>>106255888
>>106255884
>>106255878
>>106255878
Worst of all, you could have actually been able to set this up back in 2014. But then they removed the ability to use pre-transaction scripts.
https://github.com/PackageKit/PackageKit/blob/main/NEWS
>Version 1.0.1
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>Released: 2014-10-21
> - Remove the events/pre-transaction.d functionality (Richard Hughes)

>>106256086
Learn the hardware specific boot process for your system, presumably you are using a x86 UEFI PC.
Decide your bootloader, Grub or rEFInd or maybe even boot EFI-stub kernels.
Then decide do you want your root filesystem inside any kind of abstraction such as LVM or RAID or encryption or a network boot even, it makes the boot process magnitudes harder and prone to failures.
>Gentoo
Case you want to build a custom kernel you want to learn everything about your current system and all its peripherals. You don't want your kernel build to take 20 hours instead of something like 5 or 20 minutes.
You can learn custom kernel builds using any distribution, it's not really specific to Gentoo.
>"build it yourself" distro like arch or gentoo
btw, any distro has this option

>>106249780
>GNOME
>"real" Linux DE
You shouldnt lie on the internet

>>106251815
Domain blocking is usually handled by your dns server not your firewall. If doing 0.0.0.0 google.com in /etc/hosts is not enough for you, you can setup something like dnsmasq instead.

>>106252114
Are you using --profile=fast?
>>106252243
People who prefer tabbed/monocole mode i guess

>>106247023 (OP)
Is there a tool to brute force the password of a router webpaage login?
It just require a password.

>>106253410
Do you have the steam udev rules installed?

>>106253623
Some combination of Ctrl+Shift+PageUp/Down was supposed to work even in the tty but i think it got removed.
Easiest solution would be just to ssh from a terminal, or to use tmux.

>>106255508
Backports for drivers.
If you need to updoooot for your desktop environment that badly then dont use debian and stay on arch or any other bleeding edge.

>>106256261
You're doing it wrong if you're not doing it in your firewall. It is 2025 and DoH and DoT usage is rampant. Any application can resort to bypassing your resolver.

In order of least to most secure:

>/etc/hosts
>DNS resolver
>DNS resolver + blacklisting the IP addresses used
>Full DPI and inspection of all packets and SNI, etc, and terminating any connections you don't like

>>106255544
So basically bazzite is shit and cant even do the job that obnxious shill says it does?

>>106256361
Your /etc/resolv and dns resolver takes priority over DoH
I dont think you know what DoT is since its just regular dns but over TLS, which can be port blocked.

>>106256408
You're wrong. Any application that wants to bypass the Glibc resolver is free to do so.

>>106256416
And how is that application bypassing the glibc resolver supposed to resolve the domain being used for DoH?

>>106256416
>>106256408
And yes, port blocking DoT is a good idea. I also recommend blocking port 53 for everyone except your internal resolvers so any application trying to bypass your local resolver can't do so.
>>106256428
Hardcode it:
curl -s -L -H 'Accept: application/json' --resolve 'dns.google:443:8.8.8.8' 'https://dns.google/resolve?name=dns.google&type=a&do=1'

>>106256086
You need to be of college age or younger, single, or rich without responsibilities. Those are the only groups of people who have time to waste on a diy OS.

>>106256392
No. The retard is just dual booting which is not something you'd ever want to do with Windows as it absolutely guarantees bricking your Linux boot. Performance issues are something he'll probably figure out when he calls in the guy from Level1Linux. It could just be that his Windows versions are running an upscaler or frame gen on Windows since that's what modern games started doing by default.

>>106256452
If the dns resolver is being hardcoded as an ip into the application then it stops being a resolver issue and the actual ip in question would need to be blocked by your firewall (which is how some people are trying to fix the DoH issue especially in smart appliances and stuff)
I dont know what anons original use-case was but if he was just trying to block google from firefox then resolv would be enough. If they have some proprietary application with a hardcoded upstream dns then yeah they would need to start ip blocking at the firewall level.

>>106256478
>It could just be that his Windows versions are running an upscaler or frame gen on Windows since that's what modern games started doing by default
Jayz is a disingenuous retard. You know what his benchmarks don't compare? Raytracing on vs off.

>>106256485
I don't care if it shows raytracing on/off since it's mostly a meme and it's well known that Linux raytracing sucks anyway.

>>106256493
>it's well known that Linux raytracing sucks anyway
Jayz doesn't make that known. Anyone in the know could tell he's running these games with raytracing on, but casual viewers (ie his audience) are going to watch it and think "Wow, Linux sucks for gaming!"

>>106256481
It depends how secure you want it to be really, in enterprise/appliance type stuff then they pretty much have to do it in the firewall because they don't trust applications or their employers enough.

I think I will go with Gentoo, wish me luck. If it becomes too complicated for me I will go back to Arch or maybe CachyOs. Handbook seems to be well written, let's see if the install filters me.

>>106256529
*employees not employer
(it's still early for me)

>>106256518
I'm too lazy to open the video again, but I'll believe you. All raytracing benchmarks I've seen really are 25%-60% worse on Linux, which is pretty much what I've seen in his charts.
He'll probably make another video about it anyways. I don't think it's completely unfair to compare raytracing performance and call it a worst case scenario just so people don't get their hopes up. And I'd call it completely fair if raytracing is enabled by default or forced, as it is in some modern games.

>>106256542
The install took me a few days as an arch user.
Though worth noting that I deviated from the handbook.
Was a nice learning experience but I don't think I am switching, yet.

>>106256542
In my experience the only real filter was manually configuring the kernel, which you can skip by just using the -bin version

>>106256574
Partitioning and bootloader can be a filter too, but none of it is difficult. Just take your time with it.

Good lord why oh why did nvidia just push 580 out of beta as broken as it is? What is their goddamn issue? They're forcing my hand I swear to god

>>106256589
I am good with partitioning now after installing Arch so many times, bootloader I am not sure. I tried to get limine on Arch and had to rely on Gemini to help me, but I think I am good with standard grub/systemD stuff. I'll find out soon enough anyway.

>>106256589
Going through make menuconfig is way more complicated than both partitioning and bootloader though.

>>106256598
Qrd on what it broke?

>>106256670
The most notorious issue which has some sort of workaround is GTK4 apps freezing. The rest is general crashes on games that aren't there by downgrading to 575.

>>106256703
>They broke the most notorious graphical toolkit used on the Linux desktop
Do they even use their own software even once for anything besides CUDA anymore?

>>106256725
I don't know, but if this isn't getting any better soon I might have to switch back to AMD and I'm not in the mood to buy another fucking GPU

>>106256735
amd drivers have problems too from time to time, it's not all rainbows and butterflies.

>https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/XDG_Desktop_Portal
You are probably asked this question hundreds of times but are these the only WMs that let you override the gtk file picker used by firefox? The default file picker has no real thumbnails grid preview support but overriding it to portal fixes the issue. Problem is, not every WM supports this portal feature apparently? Or am I reading the wiki wrong?

File chooser portal / YES
>COSMIC
>Deepin
>GNOME
>generic
>KDE Plasma
>Liri
>LXQt
>theDesk

File chooser portal / NO
>Hyprland
>wlroots
>Cinnamon

>>106256771
Sure but I didn't have as many issues with my 6600xt. The biggest problem I had with it for the longest time was my cursor getting corrupted graphics because of some gamma issue. I can't even use anything on wayland with my 4070 super right now without getting some desktop artifacts.

>>106256777
I use the gnome filechooser with the big thumbnails on hyprland
cat ~/.config/xdg-desktop-portal/hyprland-portals.conf

[preferred]
default = hyprland;gtk
org.freedesktop.impl.portal.FileChooser = gnome

Generally you can mix and match the portal components

>>106247106
check out https://github.com/user234683/youtube-local
it's a locally-hosted youtube front end and it's really fast and lightweight. has built in sponsorblock and optional tor support, too. i actually use it on my main desktop but it's also great on my core2duo p8400 laptop

your cpu is much slower, though i'm not certain how it compares to machines i have, passmark is giving me a curious result. the cpu mark is apparently higher than my 2005 laptops' cpu, but the single thread performance is apparently worse... which makes no sense to me because they're both single-core, single-thread cpus. it may be at least comparable also given they only have the U2100 and not your slightly better U2200. i can run 720p H.264 30fps youtube videos on that laptop... just. i haven't run video on it in a long time, but i recall needing to disable in-loop deblocking to get it to 720p (that was a popular performance trick in the early days of H.264... it used to be a heavy codec)

>>106256841
Nta but I prefer https://git.sr.ht/~heckyel/yt-local but neither of them have been updated since feb. Though browsing through channels and vids seem to work fine for now.

>>106256478
I watched the video and i dont understand what exactly happened. Did windows change/delete files from the EFI partition?

>>106256820
so you are not eternally cucked if your wm isn't on the list, ok

>>106256663
This.

Let's say that whenever I use adaptive sync on Plasma (wayland) set to auto, on my highest refresh rate going from fullscreen back to windowed makes my monitor go blank for a second, but on a refresh rate below that, it doesn't.
What would I have to do here? Edit an EDID file so the gsync/freesync range is higher? I'm losing my mind over this.

Hi /fglt/
This is how KDE plasma renders fonts on my end with fractional scaling at 125%
Screenshots somehow do not show the issue so I had to use my phone camera
If you're confused, look at the words screen locking and KDE wallet, you'll see it doesn't exactly look right.
Is there a fix for this?

is bazzite le good for a complete newfag?

>>106257581
no. fonts and fractional scaling are a mess in general no matter the DE because you can't display 13.3 pixels.
>>106257664
yes.

>>106257664
Yes it's good for someone who doesn't know their way around Linux at all. It's basically a desktop variant of SteamOS built on atomic Fedora instead of Arch.

>>106257664
Arguably the best. Maybe read about flatpaks and what they are.

>>106257673
>>106257686
>>106257712
thanks bros, a friend and i were thinking of installing it since we're mainly focused on vidya and were thinking of dual booting linux/windows

>>106257737
Worth giving it a shot if anything.

Anyone else have problems using Ark for extracting rar archives? It just goes on and on for a stupidly long time, meanwhile using unrar from the command line takes a fraction of the time.

>>106257581
Did you try changing the sub-pixel rendering settings in "Settings -> Fonts"?

>>106257664
Depends on what kind of a user you are. For most people, it's probably the easiest distro out there. For people who are more leaning towards "power users", in most cases the answer is still "yes" but with a caveat.
The distro is immutable, so you can't make deep system changes (similar to non-rooted Android). You wouldn't want to do that anyways as a beginner, but a lot of more advanced users like to tinker with their system in a way which immutable distros don't allow.
Also, there is some software (again, mainly for advanced users, developers, etc.) which isn't really made for immutable distros and would require system-wide installation using "rpm-ostree" in your terminal, or using the BoxBuddy app (distrobox) which is shipped with Bazzite. For example, I do software development and a lot of tools/libraries that I rely on aren't available in the Fedora Atomic system, so I just install this stuff with rpm-ostree. And whenever I'm dealing with 3rd party projects which need libraries I don't have, I just use Distrobox.

>>106257737
Please keep in mind that Windows updates often brick Linux bootloaders, so your Bazzite installation would be rendered unbootable until you fix it using a live USB.
The best practice would be to have both OSs installed on separate drives, then manually plug/unplug them when you want to boot into the other OS. I know it's retarded, but it's just the situation Microsoft created ever since Windows 10.

>>106257772
>then manually plug/unplug them when you want to boot into the other OS. I know it's retarded,
two seperate drives is more than enough, you don't need to manually unplug anything like a retard lmao.
just boot on your linux drive and grub will let you boot on windows or linux.

>>106257811
I wouldn't trust Windows at all. A friend of mine was dual booting Windows 10 and Mint on separate drives and after a year his Mint drive was rendered unbootable. Better safe than sorry.

>>106256589
>>106256636
GRUB is a god damn black box. You type some commands and hope it works, there's no explanation on the mechanics on what's happening.
Like for example does the resulting EFI executable or bootloader code get embedded with relevant UUIDs? How does it know where its modules are?

>>106257839
windows doesn't touch other drives, mint probably fucked itself.
even if windows does break your efi partition, you can fix it in 2 minutes with a live cd and boot-repair, certainly a much better solution than manually unplugging your fucking drives.

>>106257772
i already plan on running the OSes on different nvme drives since i'm not using one for anything but holding a single game. this will be my first distro and i'm *mostly* focused on playing vidya, maybe some art on the side if CSP is usable and media consumption.

install rEFInd

>>106257882
Sorry, but for me it's systemd-boot

>>106257664
Try mint first unless you dont like mint for whatever reason

>>106247023 (OP)
Doesn't that font drive you fucking crazy after like 5 minutes? It's pissing me off just looking at the screenshot.

>>106258011
>mint
>gaming
yeah no dawg, even for regular desktops it's just too outdated, no wayland support in 2025 is silly.
this is what happens when you fork a project and do jack shit for 10 years.

>>106258075
You don't need wayland to game. But yes, Mint is very out of date and often doesn't work well with the latest Proton.

>>106258158
>You don't need wayland to game.
considering wine still defaults to x11 yes, in fact you're probably better off wine x11 for gaming.
where wayland shines is for regular desktop use. no tearing, HDR, different refresh rates for multiple monitors and finally more security.

>>106258075
>muh wayland
Doesnt matter for gaming no matter how much you try to pretend it does
>it's just too outdated
Said nobody ever. Especially since most stuff is installed with flatpak just like with your precious bazzite

>>106257845
>Like for example does the resulting EFI executable or bootloader code get embedded with relevant UUIDs?
Read the grub-install manpage
>How does it know where its modules are?
I think grub-install also handles that

>>106258187
x11 can handle VRR pretty well from what I tried, getting rid of tearing, but wayland is a must for HDR support very unfortunately. People will continuously cope with "HDR is a meme because on my display it doesn't look good" or "HDR needs some setting up instead of being a toggle" or "my monitor is bright enough" but the matter of fact is, it's a technology that will eventually replace SDR, and properly set up it's a direct upgrade to visuals.

A true shame because my favorite desktop is Cinnamon, and wayland support on that is harsh.

>>106258356
Cinnamon and all the other desktops are working on wayland slowly so itll eventually get there. At the moment HDR really isnt going to be dealbreaker for most people aside from one or two hardcore vocal minorities. Cinnamon might get there faster since their compositor is just a fork of gnomes.

>>106258308
>Doesnt matter for gaming no matter how much you try to pretend it does
and i agree with you, right now x11 is probably better see >>106258187
however, wine-wayland is in development, and it's only a matter of time before the x11 backend gets deprecated, once that happens wayland, in a few years, wayland will be better for gaming.

>>106258187
>finally more security.
Nobody really cares about this. If anything the inability for applications to interact with each other's keystrokes and clicks is a deal breaker for some people.

>>106258308
>Said nobody ever.
Everyone I know moved away from Mint because of how outdated it was. Ubuntu LTS is just not suitable for gaming.
>inb4 just manually install the latest mesa and kernel
Not only is this something an average user wouldn't even know how to do, but it also potentially breaks your OS after an update to the latest LTS. You avoid all the pain of Mint being an outdated relic when you move to anything based on Fedora or Arch.

>>106258395
>once that happens wayland, in a few years, wayland will be better for___
That applies to everything wayland related.

>>106258382
>Cinnamon might get there faster since their compositor is just a fork of gnomes.
and here we go back to Mint being outdated, their mutter fork is years old (mutter 3.36 from fucking 2020), they're leaving a slew of features and bugfixes on the table.

>>106258421
If pewdiepie was able to use mint without issue and only switched to arch because he wanted to tinker around and learn then the average person wouldnt have any issue with mint.

>>106258448
I hate to tell you this, but pewdiepie is above the average person

>>106258432
You dont seem to understand how a fork works.

is there any merit in using a window manager like mutter in standalone mode without gnome? or kwin without kde

>>106258460
Pewdiepie is a better reflection of the average person than any of these other ecelebs

>>106258464
go take a look at the muffin commit log, then take a look at mutter.
forking is fine, letting your fork rot and not rebasing regularly is a problem.

>>106258464
It's a soft-fork and everyone knows how it works. GNOME do all of the hard real work because making a compositor is difficult work that's not easy and the Cinnamon developers are incapable of doing this work themselves, then Cinnamon will take some arbitrary Mutter version that's already out-of-date by the time they're working on it and then apply some changes on top and present Muffin to you as if it were some innovative thing.

>>106258448
Gamers are not an "average person" by default and neither is he since he clearly has above average intelligence and willpower.
Why would you not maximize your compatibility when you can do so at no cost? With Mint you're (as a beginner) also stuck with shit desktop environments in addition to being stuck with a version of the linux kernel and mesa which is very unlikely to support the latest Proton, or is more likely to have performance issues with the latest Proton.

>>106258486
No he's not lmao. That guy is way above average intelligence. He might even be top single digit %. Have you never interacted with average people before?

>>106258520
>shit desktop environments
I'm using XFCE, theres nothing wrong with it. Not mint XFCE but XFCE is one of the desktops they support.
>a version of the linux kernel and mesa which is very unlikely to support the latest Proton
>or is more likely to have performance issues with the latest Proton.
Where do people get these ideas from? I've never experienced either of these.

>>106258520
You are responding to a known Mint copium fag

>>106258638
>XFCE, cinnamon...
the problem about these DEs isn't that they're shit or whatever, it's that they have a small development team and they're very slow to adopt new features, if they even adopt them at all.

>>106252302
Speak English, pustule.

Help, I am a mint noon, and recently installed i3 in addition to cinnamon. I used to be able to switch between the two with no issue, but recently trying to login to i3 just returns me back into cinnamon. I am only able to access i3 on boot/restart. Any idea what causes this?

>>106258759
Noob*

>>106258759
Honestly i'd install arch if i wanted to tinker my system that much.

what happens when you use gpu passthrough on a system with igpu+dedicated gpu when you are already using the dedicated gpu for your host system? let's say you are running linux and wanted to run a virtual machine and assign a gpu to it. would the linux host fallback to the igpu while the vm uses the dedicated gpu? and what would happen once the virtual machine stops?

>>106258733
>they have a small development team and they're very slow to adopt new features, i
Yeah thats true. Luckily XFCE is basically almost stable feature complete on the xorg side. They'll eventually get wayland up and running tho i dont know how long itll take. Dunno about cinnamon.

>>106258782
I don't wanna tinker much desu, its mainly for office stuff but a twm seems like a good idea for productivity.
I plan on trying arch on a separate laptop.

>>106258783
You will have to exit out of your graphical session before the gpu can be handed over to the vm otherwise itll refuse to be passed through.

>>106258759
> I am only able to access i3 on boot/restart.
Are you able to log out of i3 and then log back in? Sounds like cinnamons lock screen is somehow getting in the way when using i3

>>106258834
wow that's awful. I was hoping for a more seamless experience

What's a good download manager for Linux? Never used one, even on Windows but as the speed is really slow on something I'm trying to download, might aswell give it a try. I'm fine with CLI.

>>106258942
If you look up some of those single-gpu-passthrough guides its mostly the same as what you're asking for. You start the vm, a hook script will exit your graphical session for you and pass through the gpu to the vm.

>>106258972 (me)
Also tried wget but it is slow too for some reason. It's a 1GB file from github.

>>106258972
i use jdownloader
do note that download managers aren't really about speed, they're about bypassing captchas, being able to resume downloads, letting shit download on the background...

>>106259000
I'd say the main feature of download managers is the whole chunk downloading thing so you can theoretically increase the speed of downloads from places where it's usually slower. Makes downloading things from Archive for instance much faster.

>>106259000
>>106259016

Ah. Makes sense. The more you know. Thanks.

>>106258972
Aria2
>>106258989
Github might be throttling you

>>106258851
>Are you able to log out of i3 and then log back in?
Nope. Only on first boot. I recently added a new, LUKS encrypted drive, if this helps

>>106259071
Tried turning on my VPN and my download jumped from 50KB/s~ to 45MB/s :p

New thread >>106259204

>>106258988
what happens to your original session?

>>106259279
Itll be closed/terminated

>>106258342
>Read the grub-install manpage
I'm too ESL and retarded for manuals written by the GNU project. It's like reading some scientific paper instead of instructions.

>>106259279
It's identical to you logging out by force and then killing the gfx session.

>>106259413
At least read the grub-install manpage first before writing any of that.

>>106259458
It's easier to shitpost here than do that.