Thread 106312112

>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICE
Post build list or current specs including MONITOR: https://pcpartpicker.com/
Provide specific use cases
State BUDGET and COUNTRY or you will NOT be helped

>CASE
mATX: AP201, Lian Li A3, O11 Air Mini, XT M3, CH260
ATX: XT PRO (ULTRA), AIR 903 Base/MAX, Lancool 207, Flux Pro, Y40, Meshify 3, 4000D FRAME
Dual Chamber: Y60/70, O11 Vision (Compact), Antec C8

>CPU
Budget (inc. gaming): 7500F, 7600/X, 9600/X
Gaming: 9800X3D, 9700X
Workstation: 9950X, 9900X
Premium: 9950X3D
Intel: If deeply discounted (265K for value & reliability, 14400F budget, 14600K midrange)

>COOLER
AIO: Thermalright Frozen Edge, Cooler Master Atmos, Liquid Freezer 3/Pro (unhandy mounting solution)
Dual tower: A620 PRO SE, Peerless Assassin 120 SE V3, NH-D15 G2
ITX/>42mm RAM: Mugen 6 Dual Fan, AXP120-X67

TIM: MX-6, Duronaut, PTM7950 (phase change)

>MOTHERBOARD
Avoid ASRock AM5 boards. Issues still reported & latest BIOS doesn't protect new CPUs.

>RAM
DDR5: 2x16GB or 2x24GB, 6000CL30 (AMD), 6400CL32 (Intel)
Workstation: 2x 32GB (budget), 2x48GB or 2x64GB (high-end)

>SSD (OS drive)
Budget: SN5000, SN7100
High-end: SN850X, 990 Pro (Windows)
Premium: SN8100
https://borecraft.com/

>GPU
Budget: Arc B580 (for new builds), used card
Midrange: 9060 XT 16GB, 5060Ti 16GB
High-end 1440p & Midrange 4K: 9070 XT, 5070 Ti
Workstation: 5090, used 4090 or 3090 Ti

>PSU
Budget: Corsair CX650
PSU buying guide:
https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/

>MONITOR
1080p: KTC H24T09P
1440p: KTC H27T22, Gigabyte M27Q, ASUS XG27ACS, KTC M27T6 (miniLED)
4K: Gigabyte M27UA/M27UP, KTC M27P6 (miniLED), ASUS PG32UCDM (QD-OLED), PG32UCDP (WOLED)

>OS
Activate Windows @ >>>/g/fwt

>CASE FANS
Meta: Case with good stock PWM fans
Midrange: Arctic P12 Pro, P14 Pro (5-pack, loud @ higher RPM)
High-end: Fractal Momentum, Noctua G2 (140mm or 120mm)

Prev: >>106303183

>News & Rumors
RTX 50 Super: might launch in Q4 '25, 24GB VRAM for 5070 Ti & 5080 Super, 18GB for 5070 Super.
ASUS WOLED with TrueBlack Glossy film launched (XG32UCWMG, XG32UCWG). Limited availability.

>Omissions
RTX 5070: buy if it's reasonably priced & if you plan to work around potential VRAM bottlenecks.
RX 9070 non-XT: worth considering if it's significantly cheaper than the 9070 XT.

Intel 13 & 14th gen i7/9 -K CPUs: BIOS update required due to reliability issues. Recommended to set a CPU VR voltage limit (1.4 or 1.45V).

>Product Notice
Gigabyte RTX 50 & RX 9000 video cards: thermal gel has QC issues, Gigabyte claims only early production batches were affected.
https://www.igorslab.de/en/update-on-thermal-putty-on-gigabyte-graphics-cards-after-further-storage-oil-separation-to-an-alarming-extent-and-silence-as-a-strategy/

Avoid updating Gigabyte motherboard's RGB controller firmware, as it can disable board features such as Q-Flash Plus.

>PSU Reviews
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplies
https://www.lttlabs.com/
https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-supplies
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=Power+Supplies

For tier-list enjoyers:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/

>Storage Reviews
https://www.phoronix.com/reviews/Storage (Linux performance)
https://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSD
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews
https://www.servethehome.com/category/storage/

>>106312112 (OP)
My SSDs are 9 and 6 years old lmao.
These things are resilient.

Man they're really trying to get rid of the 5070ti all these prebuilts and sudden sales for it.

>9800X3D
>7900XTX
>Arch Linux
Yep, it's gamin' time.

>>106312140
I have an Intel 520 MLC SSD still running in a different PC.

>>106312160
The real PS6 combo

will the 5080 super be a good upgrade from a 3090?

>>106312389
no
get a 5090
2x performance

So if the 5080 Super really doesn't get a MSRP bump, cause no one is buying up the stock that has now been available, the 5090 looks pretty bad. 1000 for a 24GB card that you can OC to near 4090 levels. OR, 32GB card that is 30% faster than a 4090 for double the cost.

>>106312430
People shat all over the 4080 for years then cried when it was gone. They will sit on the stock till the sticker price of the 60 series spooks customers onto panic buying 5080s.

>>106312430
>>106312389
5080 in general makes no sense when the 5070ti exists. like $300-400 cheaper but only 6-10% slower.

>>106312465
its like people buying a 6900xt when they could have got a 6800xt.

If nvidia wasnt there to invent all the new graphical advancement what do you figure amd was releasing today?
Some raster focused gpu thats twice as large as 7900xtx made on samsung 8nm with nonexistent software features?

>>106308774
The best case fans are the ones that use the new connector method sans wires. I wish Noctua would do that I would buy noctua's yesterday.

good news, 5070 ti was priced just right in eu all this time so no price adjustment was necessary

>>106308774
Nothing will convince me you need anything better than thermalrights

>>106312629
if amd had the same budget as nvidia then the 7900xtx would be 5090 tier to begin with

>>106312649
i have 28 p12 max in my case and you cant see a single fan wire sounds like a skill issue

>>106312824
>see
You think I give a shit about seeing? It's the convenience factor of not having to worry about cable clutter. Also I can connect 3 fans (I think, so far it seems that way) with PWM and control every single one individually. And all of that resolves through a single cable to a fan header or to a fan controller. The best thing lian li ever did was to come out with that new daisy chaining feature. It should be standard on all fans.

>>106312824
You have a wind tunnel for a case or assume the max is just better?

>>106312865
2-1 Y splitters cost pennies
100 eur for three 120MM mediocre fans is a robbery

>>106312883
>Y splitter
Yeah, they suck. I have 3 140mm fans in my case right now that need a y splitter and my old PC had y splitters as well. I would rather that they have the daisy chain. I don't know who you think you are going to convince but it ain't me.

>>106312949
Sure, spend your money on fans that are

Noisy
Barely moving air
Producing almost no air pressure
With only 2 year warranty
Cost more than noctua

>>106312949
>>106313001
Forgot that they dont support 0RPM mode either

>>106313001
Lmao, this guy is /v/ brained. I've had these fans for 2 years now. They're not loud, they push great air and have kept my stupid hot CPU reasonably cool.

/g/ bros which 9070xt gpu i should go for ? the price differences are negligible which one should i pick amongst merc / red devil /nitro+ ? help me out bros

Usecase for 28 fans? I have 4 in my itx case and my temps are fine.

The thermalright daisy chain is enough for me.

>>106313034
redundancy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_gpD0tePww

lgs tandem oled seems really good
shame about qd oled having >2x better color volume but the deep black glossy coating in bright rooms seems awesome

lg launched 27GX700A for 850$ on amazon while its being sold for 500$ in china is kinda odd. Maybe the chinese arent allowed to return monitors for dead pixels or something.

>>106313112
They're produced in China, of course they're going to be cheaper there.

>>106313128
shipping shit in ships around the world is basically free

>>106313014
Where are the cables, little pay pig

>>106312629
>If nvidia wasnt there to invent all the new graphical advancement.
Leading the commercialization efforts of new rendering tech is risky for any trailing company.
Radeon can't afford to take risks on GPU designs that console manufacturers aren't going to buy.

AMD experimented with RDNA3's chiplet design because it allowed Radeon cards to use a smaller 5nm graphics compute die.
That also affects AMD's allotted TSMC production capacity to make more profitable 5nm Ryzen / Epyc CCDs (71 mm2).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqKJN7MGZGQ

>>106313152
Are you actually upset that I spent a little bit more money and I'm happy with the product I got in return?

>https://youtube.com/watch?v=sGuoy2rGdDM
It's out niggas

>>106313133
Not only is it not free it's horrifyingly expensive.

>>106313231
Looks awful, I hope they binned all the memory chips as well.

>>106313244
Wdym? It looks like a soulful ati GPU for the mid 2000s

>>106313214
>Radeon can't afford to take risks on GPU designs that console manufacturers aren't going to buy.
they were kinda shit at not taking risks since they got so behind nvidia that console makers hand to force their hand to implement nvidias features or threaten to cut amd off
people on pc got better amd gpu features because console makers demanded it

the video is good at explaining the margin stuff

>>106313243
google how much it costs to transport 1kg of stuff in a shipping container across the globe

>>106312712
Those are the promised price cuts due to 50xx SUPER release, or they will drop more?

>>106313272
>1kg
2.2 pounds of shit? My computer case alone weighs more than that.

>>106313276
>Those are the promised price cuts
>implying NJudea promised price cuts ever
lmfao @ your poorfag cope. Njudea would happily dump silicon in the garbage heap than discount it and undermine their artificial price-structure.

>>106313276
>drop more
Historically, the answer is always a no

>>106313231
>0:14
>高圧くしてください
cringe

anyway it seems to be the first gpu that has both the proprietary asus BTF power connector and a 12v-2x6 connector. that explains how its allowed to use 800W ootb

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/news/nvidia-app-update-5-geforce-game-ready-driver/

UPDATE NOW

>>106313254
>they were kinda shit at not taking risks since they got so behind nvidia
AMD was working with a more limited budget in both CPU & GPUs.
They bought ATi in the 2000s to accelerate APU development, a segment neither Intel nor NVIDIA had an answer to.
That turned out to be a good decision, because the PS4 APU revenue kept AMD in business while they were working on Epyc & Ryzen processors.

AMD made a big mistake in letting CUDA grow out of hand, but they never had the development nor marketing funds to match NVIDIA 1 to 1.
NVIDIA took an extremely risky bet when they first introduced CUDA, there wasn't a big enough market for this.
https://youtu.be/9OWpxVwL8YU?t=54

>console makers hand to force their hand to implement nvidias features or threaten to cut amd off
Console makers have nowhere else to go if they're shopping for a reasonably priced APU they can profit off of, and it's not just a hardware issue.
No single company can compete against NVIDIA's graphics R&D and their marketing resources.
That's why AMD's splitting the development expense with Sony atm (Project Amythyst).
Sony wants upscaling, frame generation, and RT because it allows them to sell weaker GPUs, and RT can potentially help reduce game dev costs.

>>106313372
>NVIDIA app is the essential companion for users with NVIDIA GPUs in their PCs and laptops. Whether you're a gaming enthusiast or a content creator, NVIDIA app simplifies the process of keeping your PC updated with the latest GeForce Game Ready and NVIDIA Studio Drivers, and enables quick discovery and installation of NVIDIA applications like GeForce NOW, RTX Remix, Project G-Assist, and NVIDIA Broadcast.

>>106313391
they lost me when they had that bug that reduced performance by 15% because the overlay kept wasting resources even when it wasn't used
not gonna touch that "app" until its been thoroughly beta tested for at least 36 months without major bugs

Trying to make sense of modern computer stuff after being out of the game for more than a decade.
Is this a good deal/build?
$345 for:
1x AMD Ryzen 5 9600X
1x motherboard
4x 8gb DDR5 6000 RAM

Anything bad? Aything I should go after instead?

>>106313438
Dont buy 4 sticks, get 2x16

>>106313385
layden is a fucking retard

>>106313449
The RAM is from two free gifts with the CPU and motherboard.

>>106313438
cpu is alright
what motherboard specifically? some are good and others are bad
for ram, you'd want to get 2x16gb 6000cl30. two sticks is optimal to minimize stability issues and cas latency 30 guarantees that you're getting stable, performant ram ICs instead of the bargain bin stuff

https://youtu.be/8qg7Dew1MGo
JeetyzReviews calls out hubsteves bf6 testing

>>106313438
the cpu is fine, its decent value
you want a very specific mobo called "am5" and b650 chipset is probably the cheapest
buy 2 sticks of 16gb for 32gb ddr5 ram

you also need a "gpu", 5070 is best value
and a "psu" 750w should be enough

>>106313456
too late jay, nobody cares anymore

>>106313455
>to minimize stability issues
Are there stability issues if they're all the exact same model of RAM? They're CL38.
>what motherboard specifically?
"ASUS B650E MAX GAMING WIFI W - AMD B650 AM5 ATX Motherboard"
>>106313461
>you also need a "gpu"
I'm not that far out of date. The GPU just remains the dumbest issue. The iGPU on the 9600X is actually better than my current dedicated.

>>106313231
How did picrel become *that*? Yikes

>>106313456
>scan timeline
>zero charts
fuck you for making me click on this useless video

>>106313489
>Are there stability issues
unforunately, yes. running 4 dimms on a dual channel system requires using it in 2 dimms per channel which has been broken as far as ddr5 has been released and is basically an unsupported configuration since intel and amd only guarantees the minimum possible speed of ddr5-3600 on 2DPC

>>106313530
So you're telling me all the people involved in RAM specification should be fired and the entire model that's been in place for years should be thrown out in favor of something that actually works? I remember this being like this years ago, too. And they never fixed it. By the sounds of things, they made it worst. What has this multi-billion dollar clown car been doing for the last 15 years?

>>106313552
XMP/EXPO is classified as overclocking
It works fine at the specification speeds

>>106313552
i think they sidelined it because server cpus have so many memory channels now (twelve of them) that servers can't utilize 2DPC because of lack of space, so they no longer bother spending any engineering hours on getting 2DPC working which consumer platforms have enjoyed for many years now

honestly the best solution is for them to properly give consumers quad channel support so we don't have to deal with 2DPC fuckery anymore

>>106313568
>XMP/EXPO is classified as overclocking
It's classified as overclocking of the CPU/Memory controller, not the kit itself

>>106313450
AMD effectively created a game development moat with their console APUs.
There are no PC-exclusive AAA games anymore; the biggest titles are optimized to run on console APUs that have semi-custom mobile Ryzen CPU & Radeon GPU.
NVIDIA and Intel don't have any APU that meets the performance requirements of the PS6 and next-gen Xbox.

Even if they offered an economical alternative, the AMD software development & support had been there before 2013.
AMD's competitor needs to offer significantly cheaper APUs to make all that transition worth taking.
AMD understands GeForce will always show off the newest graphics features, but they're happy with catering to everyone else.
Those tech demos take a long time to be relevant in AAA games.

I'm not saying Radeon is better than GeForce or any dumb shit like that, I'm saying these two gaming GPU businesses have different strategies/priorities to maximize profits.

>>106312389
+30%-+50%ish depending on the game assuming
For refrence 3090 is a little bit slower than than a 5070. 5090 usually isn't 2x but it's pretty close.

>>106313755
*assuming there's nothing changed with the super card other than more memory

>no /g/tard with a 32GB 9070XT
pathetic

>>106312389
Wait for the PTX 6090 if you want path tracing power.

>>106313786
Use case for it? Who needs a new gpu in 2025?

>>106313819
>Use case for it?
to brag about it? isn't that what people do?

>>106313786
higher capacity ram = slower speed
you want faster speed for gaming

>>106313828
What is the point of bragging? We all are going to die eventually. Nothing matters.

>>106313850
well, you do have a point

>>106313832
I'll take benchmarks over your speculation

>>106313875
its not speculation its literal math and science. higher capacity ram/vram cant do tight timings so their speed suffers. games dont care about capacity they want SPEED.

>>106312629
We would have a cross platform physics Api with our cross-platform Compute Api with our cross-plaform freesync

>>106313832
Me laughing at you with 2x48 cl30 with tightened timings

You don't need 4k gayming. You need sex with a real woman.

>>106313882
see >>106313875
your theory doesn't have to match practice

>>106313152
This is how a case without proper dust filtering looks after just two more weeks of use.

>>106313152
clean your rig you nurgle spawn

how over is it for us Intelbros ?

Which of the mods from the RTX Remix contest was this generals favorite?
Do "I don't play modern AAA slop on my 970" pc gamers finally have a reason to upgrade?
Radeon-Tards need not respond.

>>106313891
NVIDIA's entitled to let no other GPU designers make money off of CUDA since they're the ones that took the development risks and spent significant marketing & support resources to grow that business.
That's part of capitalism, private ownership.

>>106313929
>>106313934
Seethe, thats a 3080 that was dusted once per year
Wont bother cleaning it unless it affects temps

>>106313934
I bet there is a lot of dust in your pc.

>>106313960
no not really i have dust filters on the bottom and front intakes , i clean my filters once a year and change my cpu paste once in two years and everything is fine with it so far

>>106313979
>Clean filters once per year
So your PC is suffocating for 10 months

>>106313922
trust me anon after having a 4 month relationship with a femoid out there you will realize how comfy an evening gaming with your bros at 2k

I put in new ram but it seems to be running at the old ram configuration. I thought this would done automatically.
In the BIOS I can type in the memory frequency and timings, am I supposed to do that?

>>106314011
Reset the CMOS, turn on EXPO/XMP

>>106313993
i live in moscow and temps are optimal for gaming in here my fans dont even work that much to gather that much of dust i literally leave my window open a little bit and place my rig close to the window , its the most effective cooling strategy on the earth

>>106314018
Is the proper solution?

>>106314025
*during winter of course i forgot to type that

>>106314041
you probably don't need to reset cmos but it wouldn't hurt
you should reapply the EXPO/XMP

5070ti non oc asus prime is on the asus shop for 750 usd…823 w/ tax. You guys think prices will continue to drop or is this it

>>106314061
Dunno, but the 5070ti is the least likely to see price drops

>>106314061
another L for nvidiashills i would never touch any asus prime product go for TUF but lame youll have to pay 100usd more for it i presume

would it be worth it to upgrade from 64GB DDR4 to 64GB DDR5 ?

>>106313922
please delete this post . its making me sad about the state of my life

>>106314138
>would it be worth replacing my entire fucking computer to increase a version number
no

>>106314081
>another L for nvidiashills i would never touch any asus prime product
Where was this criticism when Nicotroon was excited about his ASUS Prime 9070 XT?
Same when people are talking about GPU overclocking and undervolting in these threads.
Radeon bag holders don't talk shit about OCing when someone's asking for 9070 XT tuning tips.

When someone's asking how to OC a 5080?
>'NOOOOOOOOOO IT DOESN'T MATTER'
>'YOU'RE RETARDED, YOU WON'T NOTICE THE DIFFERENCE'
The insecurity of all these Radeon card owners...

ASUS Prime is fine, whether it's packaged for Radeon or GeForce GPUs, it's practically the best base MSRP model for this generation of video cards.

>>106314000
I didn't say a single word about relationship.

>>106313922
I've done the second one many times. Can I have the 4K vidya now?

sex + 2k > 4k

>>106314182
No, now you need to have sex with a proper man

>>106314167
same thing for that dude i have an XFX merc 9070xt and im enjoying it ,since you are braindead, let me explain it like this :
Stay away from their motherboards also stay away from whatever falls under the asus prime category go for TUF and STRIX , my keyboard is strix for instance and my mobo is tuf

>>106314199
No thanks

>>106314182
Sorry, I do not believe you.

>>106314176
what happens when both sides get horny in a relationship anon ?

>>106314371
Never trust a woman and brakes.

>>106314220
>i have an XFX merc 9070xt and im enjoying it
Merc is not XFX's base MSRP model; the Swift is. You're the one who's making brain-dead comparisons.
This is like some retard saying the ASUS Prime Radeon 9070 XT is bad because it's worse than his 5080 Astral.

XFX can't even optimize the fan & heatsink correctly when their cooler designs are dedicated to Radeon GPUs.
>'Better hotspot temp'
It's one of the loudest 9070 XT cards, and they provide no quiet/dual BIOS.

The build quality of the ASUS Prime card is also different from the Prime motherboards.
ASUS released Prime as the new SFF/base MSRP cards for this gen whilst pushing the TUF a tier higher.

>>106313093
>>106312865
for me, it's yuropoor fans

>>106314401
>It's one of the loudest 9070 XT cards, and they provide no quiet/dual BIOS.
radeon gpus are beholden to the radeon drivers, and the drivers auto-default to a zero-rpm mode that only starts spinning at very high temps, its annoying because i have to turn it off everything i get a game crash or i update the drivers, as it resets to default.
I don't even OC, i just up the fan curves because i'm not a sperg who loses his mind everytime the fans spin loud. Noise cancelling headphones are your friends anons.

Ryzen 7 7700 + RTX 5070 + 32GB 6000MHz? Worth going up to a 5070 Ti?

>>106314454
>radeon gpus are beholden to the radeon drivers, and the drivers auto-default to a zero-rpm mode that only starts spinning at very high temps,
>WOW! DRIVER BASED FAN CURVES! ZERO RPM MODE!.
This happens in video cards with NVIDIA or Intel GPUs as well, braindead retard.

>i'm not a sperg who loses his mind everytime the fans spin loud
>Noise cancelling headphones are your friends anons.
This is how XFX Merc buyers cope with their purchase.

>>106314471
>Ryzen 7 7700 + RTX 5070 + 32GB 6000MHz
Sounds like a decent midrange build
>5070ti?
Do you need the vram now for ai retardation? Are you paranoid that games are overnight going to start demanding 16gb+? For 1080p and 1440p I (my own personal perspective) would say probably not, 4k yes since there you can already exceed 12gb in several games if you just max everything.
In most games the performance gap between the 70 and 70ti is like 10%-15% (the cap is a little under 30% assuming no weird driver issue or vram), can be basically nothing at 1080p or a higher resolution with aggressive dlss.
>>106314454
>and the drivers auto-default to a zero-rpm mode that only starts spinning at very high temps
Has that not been the default for like a decade now?

>>106313882
>higher capacity ram/vram cant do tight timings so their speed suffers
the only timing that suffers from higher capacity in theory is tRFC
and that doesn't really happen in practice, 24gbit hynix M-die still does tight tRFC

>>106314523
>Has that not been the default for like a decade now?
i know, i just saw an absurd, retarded post and had to correct it by explaining the obvious. As if anyone just leaves these fan curves on default anyway.

>>106313164
>18GB 5070 SUPER $549
Genuinely, how can AMD compete?

>60% longer lifespan

So oled burn in a dead meme now?

>>106314471
its never, ever, worth upgrading in the same generation to a single higher iteration of the same gpu. You're retarded, at least wait for the next generation of cards, or have a close family member you give the 5070 to.

>>106313028
Red devil

>>106314570
>As if anyone just leaves these fan curves on default anyway.
XFX makes one of the shittiest coolers even in noise-normalized testing.
That result is from the Mercury Magnetic, XFX's best 9070 XT model.
The Swift would be total garbage.
You're the brain-dead retard. Know your fucking place.

>>106314291
Not my problem.

>>106313850
Just kill yourself since nothing matters, you're just going to die anyways. Stupid bitch.

I'm seeing a lot of youtubers making vids and creaming over this monitor

ASUS ROG XG27AQWMG TrueBlack Glossy

There's a new King of the Hill. But I'm surprised 27" is what everyone wants now, they were pushing 32" and even 40" for WOLED peak not too long ago.

>>106314582
>3 years to 4.7 years
WOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWW

>>106314582
Always advertise your weakness.

>>106314523
>Sounds like a decent midrange build
Nice! I was thinking of buying a PC like this, but wanted a second opinion. I think 12GB VRAM should be fine, considering there's plenty of 8GB GPUs out there still.
>>106314587
Retard.

>>106314570
>As if anyone just leaves these fan curves on default anyway.
I'd bet over 50% do easily

>>106313453
Modern AMD consumer cpus have problems with 4 sticks.

>>106314628
27" is small. We should have 42" 4k monitors at this point. Pixel density is the same as 21"1080p. There is no reason this shouldn't be the standard.

>>106314582
>>106314636
>Half the life of my monitor from 2015
Nice. Sike.

You own a display? No.
THE DISPLAY OWNS YOU

>>106314663
Maybe these glossy WOLED high refresh rate panels are too expensive to make? I dunno, they've certainly stopped pushing bigger sizes now in favour of 27" models.

>>106313461
>5070
>best value

The 4070s was, but buying the 5070 at +5% to that and still 12gb is an insane move when the 18gb is coing out in 5 months. The 9070xt is the best value right now if you can find a decent price.

>>106314690
>The 9070xt is the best value right now if you can find a decent price.

impossible in america for some reason
other countries have multiple models at msrp

>>106314598
>memory is second coolest out of 4 samples
>temp is 3 degrees warmer than the coolest scoring gpu
You seem awfully invested in hating on XFX for no reason, did an exec at XFX fuck your whore mother and not pay her the $5 she asked for or something?

>>106314636
>3 years to 4.7 years

sounds perfect. I've never kept an electronic device for longer than 4 years.

>>106314715
Hellhound 9070 XT for $720 (before taxes) isn't too bad.
AMD called that $600 pricing as the launch price in their presentation because it wasn't sustainable (at least in the US).

>>106314667
So it can refresh the pixels when I go to eat chicken tendies my mom made me? Sounds like a based feature.

>>106313939
it's actually the opposite. The stock is up another 7% this week which is massive.
I wish i had the money to buy call options on them earlier this year.

>>106314735
The GPU temperature sets the performance bottleneck; the memory chips can run at above 90°C and remain within operating specs.
You're the retard who's bashing at one of the best base MSRP designs when your fucking Merc can't even keep up with the reference grade Sapphire Pulse cooler @ noise normalized tests.
Stop embarrassing yourself, turn on your noise-cancelling headphones, and fuck off.

>>106314765
Because Trump said he's gonna bail em out

>>106314598
those are noise normalized tests , merc is massive and offers better cooling than the others
picrel

>>106314660
So does Intel.
ddr5 in general has problems with 4 sticks in ways I have never experienced with ddr2 ddr3 or ddr4.
Absolute fuckin dog shit. I hope ddr6 is better

>>106314401
i use headphones at all times retard i dont give a massive damn about my fan noises

>>106314833
XFX's best 9070 XT model that launched @ $800 pricing (current price $810 for Magnetic Merc) is only 5°C cooler than the base MSRP tier ASUS Prime.
While running loud as fuck. Big win. Buy XFX kids.

>>106314802
Biden was doing the same. They are a too big to fail company.
They do need to either spin the fabs off pr get other companies to buy fab space on the new nodes. They are running put of cash to finance the smaller nodes independently.
It would be interesting if down the road a us govt nationalizes TSMC's fabs in the US if intc fails.

>>106314860
You obviously care enough to justify it in 4Chan.

Lemme guess, you need more?
Yeah... I do...

I hope it's the right thread, anyone knows if this error is repairable or do I just need to replace my monitor?

>>106314715
I got my hellhoud for $630 on open box deal at microcenter

>>106314871
>its cooler than nitro+ therefore its better than nitro+ i dont see your point you are sucking prime's cock rn because you own one

>>106314765
>>106314876
Intel IS x86. Amd loisenses x86 from them. What the fuck even happens if intel actually goes out of business? All ARM? X86 goes public? What happens

>>106314885
no im not an empathy lacking basement dweller and i know the quality difference of shitty speakers vs a headset

>>106314917
that man owns a 4080 super, fe at that

>>106314893
Looks like ribon cable. Open it up and reseat the ribon that goes from the screen to the board.

>>106314955
Is it just a matter of plugging it out and then back in once I opened the back of the monitor? I'm an ape when it comes to this stuff

>>106314917
>its cooler than nitro+ therefore its better than nitro+
Brain-dead retard just can't stop embarrassing himself.
The XFX Merc is cooler in that chart because it's boosting lower than the Nitro+, and the Nitro+ has a milder stock fan curve (1500 vs 1600 RPM).

>because you own one
I don't own the RX 9070 XT or a GeForce ASUS Prime. I can afford better NVIDIA cards.
I'm correcting your bullshit that ASUS Prime is a bad reference-tier card.
That HWUB chart proves my point just fine, fucking retard.

>>106314964
There will be little snap down clips, you put the ribbon into that and snap it back down on both sides. They usually BARELY give you a long enough cable so you should tape it down at a couple points in the middle. This probably came out due to heat/cool cycles and them jewing you on 1mm of cable.

>>106314937
good thing x86 got obsoleted by amd64

>>106315060
I'm pretty sure the loisensing is an absolute clusterfuck between x86-64 and both companies have to pay each other for random bullshit between the two

>>106315093
I'm fully convinced anyone that remembers the original terms is long since retired or dead and there's no way either company truly knows what they really should be paying each other

>>106315093
they gave up and set up an agreement where either companies could use the patents either of them filed. it also benefits them by reducing x86 instruction set fragmentation

>>106315115
This makes sense since they should both be terrified of ARM. Especially now that companies like aws are making industry class arm chips like graviton for ec2. They will keep making more arm chips for specific workloads. Graviton is compute but I'm sure they're working on database and vm chips right now.

>>106312866
NTA, but they don't have the same anoying hum that the standard P12 has around 900-1500rpm
Unfortunately for the P14 Max it's the other way around

>>106313231
its phallic shaped lmao

>my sources

it came to me in a dream

thanks MLID

>>106315187
It's supposed to be a tribute to older VGA designs, 30th anniv edition and all.

It's 2025 and all RTX has done for the gaming industry is make native 1080p gaming unviable

>>106315202
yeah that makes sense
it looks like an ati blower gpu if you dont look close enough

>>106315223
Good. 1080p is a handheld resolution and is obsolete in even televisions. Pc monitors are supposed to be higher resolution than a television.

>>106315225
GPU prices 10x-ed in 15 years
Why even live

>>106315223
We should have been on 4K years ago
everything else with a screen has moved to 4K except PC gaming

>>106315197
Olan will hopefully put out his new ghost video soon, I want to see more spooks.

>>106315157
More like IA-64 Itanium became the Itanic failure. Nobody wanted to switch to a whole new architecture that nothing supported, but the 32bit Windows 3GB of RAM limit was looming and AMD's backwards compatible 64-bit and their Athlon64s both worked really well vs the Netburst Pentium 4 housefires.

>>106315262
>>106315284
>AI sloppa upscaling is good actually
I'd rather play at native 1080p with MSAA than at 1440p with DLSS Quality honestly

>>106315197
he's usually right. why do people say he isnt ?

>>106312160
Sir, do the needful and engage the RTX.

>>106315328
fuck off.

>>106315328
Well you can't since everything is TAA
And if you can then you don't need to be ITT or a new PC because it's all old shit

>>106315328
MSAA isn't perfect.

>>106315328
Well seethe about it because those days are never coming back.
Even AMD is fully embracing things like "AI sloppa" and ray tracing.

>>106314607
>anime
Yes, you never have had sex.

>>106315377
>>106315357
>Well you can't
That's exactly my point, and I fucking hate it here. Image quality was so much more straightforward 10 years ago.

i hate my mouse, the scroll wheel randomly scrolls while i'm using the mouse so i miss click things all the time. i'm now 88% sure someone hacked my mouse as a prank. it cleaned it troughly

>>106315348
He shares the most meaningful information, like GPU specs, after people with better sources leaked them.
MLID does have retail sources.

>western kike still in the OP
stop censoring samsung please

>>106315384
>hacked my mouse
no such thing

>>106315328
I was playing at 1440p in 2009, except it was a 2560x1600 16:10. The idea of downgrading from there or even still using it is fucking insane. We should have 5120x3200 16:10 monitors at this point. Pc should always be better than TV.

>>106315389
>Stop recommending SSDs that work well in both Windows & Linux
990 Pro is still recommended for Windows PCs.

>>106315408
fuck off.
please explain to me why samsung ssds are magically slower on linux when theres absolutely no hardware difference and no meaningful architecture difference between windows and linux, and why western digital sponsors the linux foundation, shill

>>106315380
I actually found one that wanted anime recommendations lol.

>>106315397
>I had ultra high end shit while most people were still on 1280x1024 or equivalent, and the industry MUST follow me!
I was on 1366x768 until 2018. I'm still using my first 1080p monitor and I don't want to spend 200+ bucks on a 1440p just because the jews deny us our human rights

I feel like this is the best that I can tune my ram kit without going crazy or introducing errors.

>>106315397
based. The 5k monitors are coming to save us.

>>106315306
And back then ARM were just microcontrollers. The major rival to AMD/Intel was Macfags with their IBM PowerPC G4/G5s. Steve Jobs and smug macfags would always boast of benchmarks showing PCs getting BTFO by muh superior RISC architecture.

>>106315437
>GDM enabled

Try again

>>106315431
lmao ok third worlder

>>106315431
lmao ok third worlder

>>106315431
I bought a 4k 42" tv in 2016 and then wall mounted it on a scissor mout to float in front of my desk. Anything I couldn't play in 4k I just didn't play. 16:10 is a superior aspect ratio and needs to become common again.

what would you guys upgrade if you were me ?

14700K
32GB RAM
3090
850w power supply
JBOSSDS (just a bunch of ssds)

>>106315431
what's it like living in 2008?

>>106314980
wow man 35MHz difference
i didnt mean that i was taunting your "XFX's best 9070 XT model that launched @ $800 pricing (current price $810 for Magnetic Merc) is only 5°C cooler than the base MSRP tier ASUS Prime." you are miserable at gaslighting hahahaha

>>106315475
Always upgrade monitor if pc is good.

>>106315475
nothing unless you want to pay 4k $
non- 5090 gpus arent really transformative for the gaming experience
9800x3d has slightly better 1% lows so who cares
ram isnt relevant for gaming past 16gb

wait for am6, ddr6, 6080 gpu, 10800x3d

>>106315477
learning to be grateful for what little you have is the key to a happy life, anon

>>106315475
I would wait for am6

>>106315426
Take your frustrations out on Samsung. /pcbg/ man...
The OP isn't supposed to recommend parts that I own (I own 2x 980 Pro & 1x 990 Pro).
It's about helping people make better purchasing decisions.

If you feel there should be more Samsung SSDs in the OP, name them and explain why they're better than the ones already listed (at their respective price pts).
https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/106011672/#106018430
https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/106011672/#106020532

>>106315457
theres no fps difference for me but im sure it helps with stability with it on

>>106315495
that's like settling for a 3/10 woman because she is nice to you.

>>106315431
so fucking based it's not even funny.
I went backwards with my screen resolution. 4k sometime in the early 2010s (I know it was before maxwell launched), 1440p around 2020, back to 1080p now.
You literally don't need more than 1080p (for your main gaming monitor)

>>106315505
>female
>alive (optional)
you need more?

>>106315505
>that's like settling for a 3/10 woman because she is nice to you
Stop personally attacking me

I just wish I didnt have to read comments from people who earn less than 1000€ a month
it'd solve a lot of mysterious grievances about modern hardware

>>106315505
That's what you're supposed to do though.
Have fun in your teens and early 20s before finding a house wife.

>>106315513
You can see the pixels when reading text. 1080p is only usable under 21" which is why it's a handheld/laptop resolution.

We should all be using SSAA only but crappy hardware is holding us back by decades

>>106315497
i asked around on some linux servers. samsung runs perfeclty fine on linux
either give proof or fuck off, shill. some random twitter screenshot doesnt count

funny how overpriced ssds are in the op because of some screenshot lol

>>106315538
werks on my dual 21.5 inch 1080p screens setup

>>106315528
this

>>106315475
>>JBOSSDS (just a bunch of ssds)
well you could get an Asustor Flashstor for that and NAS them up
Other than that, unless you want a 5090, nothing.

>>106315538
Weird fox and the grapes post.

>>106315555
>21.5"
I have 4 of your monitors built into one.

>>106315431
I mean you can get a really good monitor for $200 these days

we need flags on this board.

>>106315484
>wow man 35MHz difference
If it's meaningless, why can't the Merc match/exceed that with the larger cooler and a more aggressive fan curve?

>>106315000
My monitor is a aoc 24g2ae/bk and I find no way to open it on the back, manual doesn't help and there's zero videos about it online...

>>106315580
My laptop is 1080p and 17" and is fine, no complaints. But i had a 32" 1080p and it's wildly distracting to see the screen door

>>106315495
based , keep it up anon

>>106315543
A /pcbg/ visitor literally ran those Phoronix drive tests on his 990 Pro; he got the same underwhelming results.

>>106315582
one was 100 bucks and the other I commandeered from a family member because it was sitting unused

>>106315598
It will have clips and you will need a prying tool and pop it open along the seam. But there should be some screws to remove. If there are any rubber plugs, pull them off with some needlenose pliers because there are screws to remove you just have to find them. Then use a plastic prytool and work around the edge to unsnap it

>>106315597
dude , pull up both of them performing at 3100 and rendering the same thing and i will agree with you

>>106315617
Sounds like good secondary monitors to fix on arms around your actual monitor

>>106315620
Except your point was the ASUS Prime being a trash reference card, and you keep posting charts that refute that claim.

>pull up both of them performing at 3100 and rendering the same thing
That's your job. You are my bitch.

>>106315608
>source: trust me bro
its the same biased shill (you) faking the tests. now give me a real source or put samsung into the OP

>>106315664
>He thinks there's a conspiracy against Samsung NVMe SSDs in /pcbg/
Lmao, stop acting like a sore loser.

>>106315599
I've been using secondary 24 inch monitors for years now that are 1080p and I don't notice any issues either.

>>106315426
I can explain
Samsung has for the longest time been putting in firmware optimizations that are specifically optimized for NTFS on windows.
They have ways of pattern matching based on how NTFS reads, writes and queues data to the drive and with assumptions on how NTFS behaves they can accelerate certain workloads.
I guess you can kinda call it branch prediction but for SSDs

>>106315685
>s-stop noticing
proof or put the ssds back into the op

>>106315664
Least obvious samshill

>>106315686
I barely even look at my secondary monitors.

>>106315705
Ok, thanks for that information.

>>106315694
>>106315704
let me get this straight: samsung ssds are optimized for windows, WD is not, so thats why WD is in the OP?

>>106315710
You're welcome.

>>106315713
At this point Samsung is using it's tricks to make up for a deficient in their SSDs performance rather than using it to get ahead.

>>106315437
tRFC can go down to 400 at 6000mt/s
tRFC2 and tRFCsb doesn't matter and can be set to auto
tREFI can be set to 65535 if you don't have a 600w GPU heating it up to the 60s

>>106315713
>samsung ssds are optimized for windows, WD is not
WD SSDs run just fine on Windows

>>106315475
what ram do you have? you could try to get like 10000Mhz ram or something like that.

>>106315713
Ssds don't even fucking matter. You don't need more than gen 3 anyway. Why are you retards even arguing about this? 3.5gbs is already higher than the 1gbps residental fiber internet speed. Nobody needs 14gbps pcie gen 5. What the fuck is the usecase, moving your fucking canon rebel video from your vacation from one drive to another constantly? Who the fuck gives a shit

>>106315777
BUT SAMSUNG SSDS ARE MISSING IN OP

>bought 9070xt for 900
>now it's 700
>and I need to upgrade the cpu/mobo/ram shuffle soon too
This has been a disaster.

>>106315799
>bought 9070xt for 900

>Me when I realize I won't be able to play Resident Evil Requiem the way it's meant to be played like Nvidia Gods because I bought a 9070xt
>it cost me $900

>>106315752
>>106315765
>>106315777
WD isnt sending their best...

>>106315822
what way is it meant to be played? with fake frames? lol

>>106315822
I haven't played a resident evil game since re5. I play theough re4 on dolphin like once a year though. I'm down to like 9 hours a playthrough.

>>106315812
You live and you learn. Plus it was four months ago now anyway.

>>106315833
I don't even know what my computer has in it. I have a crucial 1tb in a box that I haven't installed

>>106315833
I dont fuck at all with consumer SSDs
Samsung is just Scamsung
Consumer WD is janky Sandisk ultimately

>>106315863
Did you at least get the microcenter protection plan so you can short it out and get your $900 back when the 50 supers come out?

>>106315875
I'm not american.

>>106315875
Stop telling people to kill perfectly good electronics you fucking jewish fuck.

>get 4TB SN850X for $275
Nice.
>990 PRO 4TB goes on sale for $270 three days later
God damn it. I should have just stayed in the samsung ecosystem, I already have a 970

I upgraded my GPU a while ago and am replaying old games and noticed that there's often the same problem- fps are high and things look super smooth until you move the mouse, quite a few of the old games share the same problem of notable camera lag/stutter when looking around with mouse. Maybe it's just on my machine but I wondered what could be the cause. Is it just those problems that pop up when older games become deprecated and lose driver support, or because those games and engines were never thought to run at higher than 60 fps, or even lower? Seens to affect mostly old Unreal engine games so far, like eg Dishonored.

>>106315881
Sorry you can't buy my used cards haha you just won't be getting them

How did we get to the point where you straight up can't beat a used console in picture quality and performance at a similar price? For $300 (used launch day PS5) you can't even get a fucking GPU, let alone everything else.

>>106315648
I sneed
https://youtu.be/h8qSubAfNQs?si=f_joAXbGf-G59vT2

>>106315888
games can lag due to bottlenecks in the system
maybe buy a 9800x3d and more faster ram alongside it
then you want a high hz oled monitor

some old games are fps locked, some require additional fixes if they fail to work well on modern systems

>>106315896
You don't know what you're talking about or live in an irrelevant 3rd world shithole like Europe . You can slap together something 100% used that beats the base consoles on raw performance + gives you dlss which is eons ahead of anything they have on there.
A $300 used gpu is ps5 pro performance + dlss territory.

>>106315852
7 was good
Village was fun but the beginning is by far the best part of it
You should check out 4 remake at least once if you like 4 that much

>>106315912
I bet skyrim will get a high refresh rerelease soon.

>>106315896
Closed ecosystem game sales make up for the initial console price.

>>106315759
the trfc and trefi are precisely because i have a hot gpu inside

>>106315927
Fair, I only spend money on Gacha games, because anything that's not live service you can just pirate, and multiplayer/competitive games are for 13 year olds.

>>106315392
Yes, it's possible. I just found it. My coworker did this hack on my mouse last week.

>>106315920
He is saying it would be $300 for the gpu and then at least another $200 for the computer. But with a pc all games are free and with a ps5 they then cost money. A ps5 base model is about as powerful as a 3060.

>>106315912
Newer games run fine, hardware isn't the problem. I was just wondering about this one thing if because it's persistent and common across quite a few games, and things are usually buttersmooth until you touch the mouse and look around.

>Nvidia drops prices more
>MSRP on 5090 now at the sales prices of the price the cheapest 5090's dip to
>local currency healing compared to usd
Inshallah Jensen will make it cheap

>>106315954
What did esl mean by this? Prepositional phrases are always difficult to learn in every language.

>>106315979
does someone pay you to ship up threads

>>106315896
>console in picture quality and performance
rendered at 780p + flactuations between 40-58 fps on the PS4 version on PS5 with dips

>$300 (used launch day PS5)
Launch day ps5 did not exist for years due to the coof+scalping
+ add on used on that like they will be cheaper when they were scalped

this nigga a full blown zoom just born weeks ago, give me some of that fentanyl you be smoking

>>106315896
I just realize now you mean buying a launch ps5 but now, allow me to continue my reply
>you can't even get a fucking GPU
you can get a b580 arc which will be alot better for that money easily though that renders at a higher res

>>106315998
I can literally find multiple listings for used PS5 Digital edition right now for 300 bucks
>>106316016
>just the GPU
what about the rest of your PC?

why do consoles have to be arm... i wish i could emulate console games natively

>>106316028
consoles are always sold at a loss to sell games on a platform. idk why ur being smug about this

>>106316028
>what about the rest of your PC?
A used pro is $500 minimum
So I guess go get a 12400 or 12600kf and a used z690 motherboard.

>>106314582
>2025
>lifespan is now something you have to take into account when buying monitors
jesus christ, where did it all go so wrong?

>>106315384
has it ocurred to you that the scroll wheel sensor is broken?
it's literally the first thing that starts failing in budget mouses

>>106316069
They hit fucking gold with burnout so they shilled that minileds were shit.

Im a bit annoyed lg is releasing some 280hz monitor panel when at the same time they're release 720hz modes

like, its completely arbitrary? Do they even save money limiting the hz?

>>106315904
You totally got me with that subject-matter expert. Buy XFX, no matter what.

>>106315979
Bro you braindead?
How couldn't you understand what he wrote?

>>106316113
The 720MHz is available for 720p resolution; there are bandwidth limitations (32.4 Gbps for DP1.4) to consider with higher resolution & refresh rate modes.

>>106316248
you know the panel can be pushed 3 times harder
than the dp 1.4 bandwidth isnt exhausted
its just market segmentation for no other reason besides pushing people to buy last gen 480hz panels or something

is it normal to hit 85c with a 7800x3d with water cooling? i got an arctic freezer iii pro 240, same as my old build, which rarely went above 70...

>retards arguing about how fast their drives go
>none of this matters at all, you can't tell the difference without a program showing it to you
Just take the evo plus pill.

It's been a few months or something, is DLSS Schizo officially gone for good?

>>106316305
You need to compare the effective boost clock difference, but that temperature is still too high.

>>106314660
So... is picking an AM5 platform GPU that utilizes DDR5 a mistake? Should I go for something cheaper on AM4 that uses DDR4? I was looking to modernize because my current toaster uses DDR3 and is cooking itself trying to keep up.

>>106316333
He can't come back because Nicoposter did one good thing.

>>106316322
I got a Samsung 980, just the regular one, and it's fine.

>>106316305
My 9950x3d doesn't hit 85c on air doing a cinebench run. Try reseating.

>>106316348
am5 makes way more sense

so is it a must to have motherboard with vrm heatsink even if i'm using a locked cpu like 14400f

>>106316355
Change the power limits to mobo controlled ones ;)

>>106316364
Oh I've played with it, I just can't stress test it since it shoots up to 95C in p95 instantly lmao. The whole system is getting put in a loop and then I'll get to business.

>>106316377
It's normal to instantly hit 95, its been like that since zen 3.
I've lowered the Tjmax to 90 through the bios

Is this monitor good?
>https://www.twistedminds.co/products/twisted-minds-32inch-flat-qhd-165hz-va-od-4ms-mprt-1ms-hdr-function-hdmi2-1-2-gaming-monitor-tm32qhd165va
Also, are expensive mobos like the
>MSI RAG gaming plus B850
worth paying double the price of a
>msi mATX B650
Should i just use a PCIe extensions for the third M.2 and extra SATA?, cards are roughly 1/3rds of the price of a premium mobo

>Peerless Assassin 120 SE V3
I got the V2 for a decent price off of Ali no too long ago. How much better are those new fans compared to the old ones? And would it make much sense to just hamfist something like the P12 PRO's on the tower, even if the only benefit would be lower noise?

>>106316403
>non samsung va
no

>>106316386
I haven't looked into how it behaves too much when maxed out like that, but it shot up to 300w+ and I shut it off the test. nhd15 wasn't made for that. I would also have to fiddle with it again once I slap a block on there.

>>106316415
>How much better are those new fans compared to the old ones?
Probably not by much.
It's recommended because you might as well get the one with newer fans if you're buying a Thermalright cooler today.

>Cooler Master Hyper 212 Pro RR-212S-25PZ-R1
Is this performant enough for a ryzen 7 7700?

>>106316435
When did they release the V3 anyways? I got the V2 for like $30 back in June.

>>106316416
>Bad colors?
Dunno what VA means
looking for a:
>cheap 2K monitor
>prefferably wide-ish.
> Hz of secondary import
>fuckall for exotic features
Using a GL2460 1080p 60hz monitor desu, it's base is wiggly

>>106316442
It can cool that CPU (88W max PPT for that chip).

>>106316485
If you can afford it buy an oled. LG just released new panel type which is good see >>106313112

cheap VA's have terrible pixel response times, some use samsung patents which make it less bad. Like KTC M27T6 (miniLED) is good. Not as good as IPS but the contrast is better and it can do hdr.

>>106316466
The Amazon listing says November 13, 2024.
It's hard to find it because Thermalright has multiple official Amazon merchant accounts.
V3 is sold by "Thermalright Direct 2".

Don't worry about having older fans. Phantom Spirit EVO is the only PS 120 cooler with new fans.

>>106316509
Yeah I guess. I FOMO'd on it due to the good sale even though my old Fera 3 was still doing just fine just because it costed as much as a Fera 5 and was way better and more futureproof in every way than SilentiumPC, sorry, ENDORFY.

>>106316501
I remember when I got my miniled I learned exactly how many games use HDR. It's basically none and if you think you can do movies think again. 90% of them won't give you 4k HDR content because you might pirate it and it's really difficult to find torrents that aren't compressed to hell.

>>106316541
>It's basically none
Unless you hack them with Special K. I still prefer the backlight bleed and grey blacks of IPS since it's the nicest price/quality sweet spot. TN is dogshit, VA is blurry, everything else is expensive.

>>106316501
Thanks but i found a cheaper 27" one and a comparable 31.5" one, both IPS
>>106316513
based chaotic colors on TN

>>106316513
choose your fighter

>muh va ghosting
These minileds are so nice and it's a shame that more people don't buy them. They believe the lies and buy an oled. Just buy one and return it if it's really that bad.

>>106316591
VA or OLED for me. Newer VA panels don't smear as badly.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLS2KJUHNeo

You guys butter your toast right?

>>106317133
I pea it.
It don't matter.

>>106317133
Cross or five dots.
Delid and liquid cool the CPU if you're going to bring up "muh air bubbles".

Should benchmarking metro 2033 make a comeback?
I'm still cpu bottlenecked a little bit at 4k
>>106317133
Just glob some on idc it's not going to make a difference

>>106317133
Yeah, idk why but I just started prespreading that and have had no bad results. I'm aware that allowing it to spread itself would work, I simply choose to ice the cake myself.

Next:
>>106317212
>>106317212
>>106317212

>>106316248
you have to 3x the bandwidth to see what it can push with dsc

>>106316280
>its just market segmentation for no other reason
they can't just make controllers that handle the pixels
we can have 4k 1000hz oleds right now, technically

>>106316213
starting to put in frogboy in an infographic is absolutely nothing short of diabolical behavior

>>106316113
they can't make controllers to get more hz because they are sloppy

>>106316097
on pc monitors, still slow
on tvs? unsuable for gaming

>>106316069
this is entirely only a fabricated thinking because of poverty or the product being too expensive, nothing more

>>106316028
gonna be a bit more cash of course

>>106312112 (OP)
The 5070 ti is flat out better than the 9070xt. Chud pricing has ruined the market

>>106314783
>You're the retard who's bashing at one of the best base MSRP designs when your fucking Merc can't even keep up with the reference grade Sapphire Pulse cooler @ noise normalized tests.
i never said anything about sapphire you schizo retard. Not everyone who disagrees with you on 4chan is the same person mongoloid. I imagine you get disagreed with all the time, you should be used to a crowd of people dismissing your opinions.

>>106315328
sad times, anon. sad times. Especially considering the shit-eating retards who are flaming you for your perfectly common sense post.

>>106317444
>Chud pricing
wtf does that even mean?

>>106317537
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chud

vat is high in finland so maybe it means that

>>106317501
It's called getting the facts straight. Go suck on XFX dick like the cocksucker you are.
A trash brand that lost their business license with NVIDIA.

>>106314628
>I'm seeing a lot of youtubers making vids and creaming over this monitor
It's affiliate marketing season and the checks gots to be paids, they just shill the [RECENT PRODUCT]