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Previous: >>106304655

I will not learn a trade

post your 1rm you fucking protein head faker

is it friday yet?

It goes NetworkGODS > DevOPKINGS >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Hell Deskers>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>The pits of jewish hell>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>tranny bootcamp>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Developer subhumans

I'm a DevOps Engineer, looking for a switch. I have 2 YOE, 1 year as an intern and 1 YoE FTE. I want to switch because of shitty hikes and RTO.
Any good job boards for finding a remote job

(This like my fourth post asking the same question, yes I'm a desperate faggot)

>>106316732
Based
>t.DevOPKING

Every single thing my boss does pisses me off.
Am I just a hater? lmfao.

How's Azure's AI-102?

>>106316761
Also in DevOps. I got my current job through this site: http://trueup.io/
Not a shill, just actually like it.
Remote jobs are hard to come by nowadays. I settled for hybrid, personally.

>>106316767
Maybe your boss is just shit.

hi
quick call?

think my job is gonna stop existing within a year but i don't wanna look for a new one
is this when i tap into my savings for years and end up at square 1 with 0 wealth?

>>106317269
Man some of the pajeets at my company are fucking wild in their profile pics. It's like they're trying to using our internal systems to test their dating app pics.

uploading furry porn to the company network to use for my Teams profile pic

>leading a project
>Get assigned a jeet as my junior to help on the project
>He drags ass for weeks not doing much of anything
>Finally contributes one thing
>Come to find out that contribution is tanking our KPI
>Deleting it raised our score 300%
Seriously send them all back.

>>106317269
>Jeets getting directly to the point
Very unrealistic. It's usually a singular "good morning" waiting for me to say hello or good morning before finally getting to the point of what they want.

>>106317799
>our KPI
AIEEEE

>>106317168
I have this cert, just study the Microsoft learn path, do all the labs and study from measure up

Try to apply to at least one posting on jobs.now per day. This way you can keep your resume up to date and block jeets from getting green cards

>customer reviews project
>raises a dozen issues about document formatting, half of which are correct anyway
It's all so tiring

>>106317937
If you want to get anywhere in this industry you're gonna need to learn these gay ass terms.

>>106318345
Kek reminds me of years ago
>First job
>Get assigned to create some search functionality
>Manage to pull it off writing paginating search UI from scratch before any tranny framework just did it for you out of the box
>Showing it off at the client demo
>This bitch ignores all of the functionality and starts to nitpick line height when that wasn't what we were trying to show and it wasn't near done yet
I hate client work and I'll never go back.

Reminder that IT is not Tech Work and winjeets, networktrannies, and hardware zogbots need to fuck all the way off.

The future is software-defined from top to bottom. Deal with it, faggots.

Now that DC has been returned to the rightful territory of the POTUS, will its tech industry thrive again?

>>106318345
>>106318427
Welcome to tech, it's called bikeshedding:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_triviality

>client asked me to make a technical document for a meeting he's having
>I should probably be in that meeting since I'm the only one that actually knows the product
>wanted to have a one-on-one so I can discuss the technical sheet with him but he can't
>updated everything and handed off
Well, one of two things are going to happen. The other technical expert is going to be pleasantly surprised that I'm very thorough with my work and gave a very clear path for the product or she's going to be confused and rip me a new one over something I could have easily explained. Given that she wasn't listening when I was talking about the product pathway I think she's going to do the latter and then try to make it her own way. I love client work.

Start making pajeets at work uncomfortable. Be blatantly rude to them whenever you see them. Never agree to help them, always work against their interests. Complain as much as possible to get them fired. Even if they are legal citizens, a pajeet is a pajeet is a pajeet

>>106318621
Network engineers who don't know SDWAN are trannies
But those who do are networkchads

>>106316732
more like PentestChads >>>>>> NetworkGODS > DevOPKINGS >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the rest

>Indians at work use specific skin color emojis on Teams
>they always choose a tone lighter than their actual

I’m going to get all the poo niggers fired from my company and make them homeless

learn a trade

>>106319375
>clean it up infra jannies
just fucking kill me please

so what are you guys pivoting to? I work a non-technical office job (ops manager sort of thing) and i've used some tech chops to get ahead of my coworkers. now i'm thinking this whole sector of work is doomed.

im thinking some kind of artisinal trade might be good...something rich people would pay a lot of money for. like a drystone wall or ornamental plaster. i don't have enough money to get into real estate right now.

>>106319986
working at a plant as a controls engineer. it's maybe 20% hands on, 30% meetings of What does the Plant Want to do and 40% behind a computer programming and troubleshooting equipment, 10% bullshitting with blue collar guys drinking nasty black coffee and trying to not talk politics

8TART

>>106319813
just walk into the union hall and give a firm handshake

>>106319660
what's it like having a huge penis?
>>106319011
same question

also

>working a start up
>0 fucking indians
>work getting done every fucking day, a bare min of bullshit
>have equity so i have vested interest in project succeeding

goodnight /twg/...

>bombed a tech screen today
asshole interviewer let me waste 15 minutes implementing the wrong thing
yeah, my fault for not clarifying requirements, but fucker could have at least stopped me sooner

>>106319986
Thinking about doing CAD full time. I've been learning it for 3D printing and it's quite comfy.

Where's microsoft pepe man? What was for lunch today?

>>106316732
What if I devops for a networking group

it feels like all IT roles are being mishmashed together into a single role. people now have to know a little bit sys admin, cloud, network, automation, and security with atleast one specialization.

>>106319986
Laser cutting company sounds promising nowadays

>>106321258
Been like that since 2020

Learn mandarin if you want to escape jeet hell
Fight fire with fire

Lakh per annum saar

I need more crore saar

>>106320670
Nobody's going to be looking over your shoulder every minute while you work to make sure you're working on the right thing during a real job. Clearly you just aren't cut out for it.

>>106321258
We are returning to the original setup our career had. I think cybersecurity and hacking will still be separate however

>>106321258
I don't know, the developers on our product seemed very eager to push sysadmin, networking and security entirely on our team.

>>106316601 (OP)
Is there any high paying tech job that doesn't involve staring at a screen all day?

>>106321520
You won't have time to manage IT and do programming.

Basic psychology

Bait see who bites

>>106321362
The real job also isn't a timed meeting where you get fired if you don't solve some leetcode bullshit

how come everytime I ask to meet a member of the team they find the one girl in the whole building?
fellas, no need for the hard sell

>Today I got to interact with normies, in-person
>Non-structured interactions
>Suddenly feel much less confident about my social skills

>>106316601 (OP)
Does Meta keep track of the coding puzzles you do on their job candidacy site, and if they do, will they still throw a Leetcode hard at you during the interview anyway?

>>106321337
I kind of like my Chinese coworkers.
It's like half of them are geniuses and half are as bad as Japanese.


>>106321427
Tbh I think after the current code monkey purge will end, we will go back to the old divisions. I am fully okay with that.

>Corporate hacking
Idk security guys are mostly checkbox fillers, or soc/noc vampires. They will not go anywhere. I actually expect security to grow with new roles, even considering ai.

>>106321836
Most companies throw out hard challenges, fizzbuzz and other random shit. The more you can get the more likely you are to be pushed to the higher tier of the job.

>>106322038
Got it. I'll admit I'm pretty bad at programming, I belong on /utg/ but it was a question I figured someone hired might know best. I got bounced off the entry level and never got a gig after 23 and eventually stopped programming, so I'm having to re-learn how to do stuff even if I can outline a solution from just not remembering keywords/function names.

>>106322099
Its going to be rough you might not even get slotted into an entry role at Meta.

>>106322107
Yeah, I didn't get a return offer from my college Amazon internship and I'm probably back to being just as bad as I was then, albeit better at just outright asking for help instead of twiddling my thumbs. I only asked about Meta specifically because they have the coding puzzles dashboard unlike any other job site I've seen so far.
Though I'm generally pessimistic about job outlook in general, I'm optimistic about whatever job I do land being from anywhere at all: I didn't expect to get my internship being from a no-name school but managed to get it, even if I fumbled it after.

>>106322131
Well amazon is willing to hire anybody. Hit the books, projects and do every Harvard CS50 course(its free) that you can. Mess with full stack deployments on a server that you own(random ass PC) get a bunch of experience under your belt then apply. Amazon will hire anyone due to its turnover rate.

>>106322152
>Mess with full stack deployments on a server that you own(random ass PC)
>CS50
I think I'd started that when in school but I'm pretty sure I didn't finish it.
I'll do that with the old desktop I have lying around, thanks.

>>106316601 (OP)
I HATE SPRING, I HATE GRADLE, NOTHING WORKS

Every day i fear getting fired for some dumb shit. Gotta keep stacking some cash so i don't feel bad if shit goes south.

>>106319011
the managers are also indian so they won't fire any until all the Americans are gone

>>106322619
eventually you get over this. you also never end up saving enough to feel safe.

>t. you from the future

>>106322739
Thanks anon that just means my paranoia can be a good thing if it means i am somewhat secure. Bad if i go full hoarder/prepper mode. I need to double up my investments so my money is making money.

>>106322619
make yourself unfireable

Imposter syndrome never goes away does it. Even after moving into a senior role it will just get even worse right.

>>106322830
That's a good thing it means you are being challenged at work. With that your experience improves to the point that work is easy. A do nothing easy job is how you get left behind desu.

>>106322559
What's wrong with me man. I have no motivation to do anything anymore. I'm booking random focus time in my calendars to take naps. I mean sure you can call me lazy but it's just more of I keep looking at my tasks and go "what's the fucking point" if nobody is going to give direction on leadership on this stuff then why should I even bother doing this. I'm so sick of doing work just to look busy and make my leadership feel like they're properly utilizing me.
I think it's also part burnout of these vague ass "can you call me" and I'm so done with this shit.

>>106322854
am the same
i """"""""work"""""""" from home at least two days a week
or rather i drink a bottle of wine or a few beers for lunch and watch japslop or muttslop while keeping myself green on teams
just cannot be bothered to be efficient anymore

>>106323014
fuck man it's starting to really affect my hobbies and workouts. I have like zilch energy to push or motivation to even do this anymore. I just wanna lay in bed and just listen to music or watch videos or something...

>work in security for a while
>typical analyst - eng - arch path
>promoted to manager and run a couple teams
>invited to director level stuff all the time
>most director meetings are them just lying to each other, patting each other on the back, or in general being huge narcissistic faggots instead of solving the simple problems they have to deal with
>nobody shares agendas so they just get blindsided and buttmad all the time
money isn't worth it bros I just want to be peram wfh and work on tools again

>>106323062
Upper management is filled with kiss ass brown nosers who barely know what windows version they are on. Absolute travesty to be ran by retards. They would rather play golf and network then do any actual work. If they atleast had vision of what the future of the company should look like you would get actual work out of them but most are just twiddling there thumbs and eating at steak houses on company dime.

>>106323109
It's pretty bad dude. We spent millions outsourcing to india and buying organizational design powerpoints with the expectation of being faster and cheaper. We don't have any real engineers to do shit anymore so even a basic api integration of a single request is like 10k outsourced to another company that's also outsourcing their devs. None of it is going to work in a few years if it at all does now.

>>106323182
>Hire cheaper labour to be faster
>Cheaper labour doesn't know what they are doing
>Their cheapness and speed is overshadowed by the lack of solutions to complicated problems
Seriously, does no one in the corporate world see a problem with this model? They can't golden parachute forever if every company goes down the shitter.

>>106323203
i believe many companies are purely living on past merits and it will in some industries last a couple more years or potentially decades
the company i work for makes construction equipment and the EnE architecture is "upgraded" like every 8-10 years or so
currently rolling out a new one since a few years back
the next generation that will start rolling out in early 2030 will be the last that some oldfags that actually know their stuff will be involved in before retirement hits
at that point i dont see my company actually developing this themselves but instead outsourcing going full autosar

simply going from single-core to multi-core is a massive leap in expected technical knowledge
not to mention all the stuff relating to security (secure boot, key management, mixing safety and QM software) or telematics (remote software updates, digital twin) etc.
my team of 12 people could manage this in time for the deadline but accounting for maintenance of two EnE generations, le scaled agile framework, and management ambition/involvement it just wont fly

expecting management to bring in """"""competence"""""" from india as they always seem to want
>we have a lot of competence in india
>our colleagues in india have been involved heavily in the past with success (i.e. we did it and they took credit)
thanks but no thanks

Has anyone here ever been given a job/gig/paid project by their parents or family acquaintances or your parent's friends? This is like supposed to be an easy way to escape going insane from being idle, but it always goes wrong in my case.

I worked as a general affair staff but quit after 4 months because the job was so un-tech like and i was sick of the high pace and unbearable tempo, nobody ever bothered to teach me anything and each time i try to finish something, it gets written off.

Once a mom's colleague asked me to build a bus ticketing web and app and the deal failed because the company was having trouble with permit or whatever and decide to focus on that first despite me and my buddies already write down the specifications and budget plan and negotiated for like a month

Then another colleague of her asked me to build a Google Drive-like to store and organize bajillion company files, but again the deal failed apart because there was so much red paper involved

Now a dad's colleague asked me to build a company website.

Seems like these gigs are the real kind of projects that motivates and lit a fire under my ass rather than building toy projects nobody gave a shit about. The problem is, even doing these stuff doesn't guarantee immediate money, so i don't know. Maybe I'm just being picky.

>coworkers still copypaste shit in chatgpt
>I've been using copilot for a while
>prompt files, agents, many mcp servers
>manager sees my usual workflow
>out of the blue I'm the AI expert
lmao

I don't get why people underestimate AI. Is it cope?

>>106318393
literally the corp i work for
we have dozens of shit systems without any integration

Is it just me or does every job position you have just end up being your boss secretary? Anytime you ask them something or someone gives you tasks with their authority, they always pass the buck over, make you do all the analysis and they're the ones to say yes or no even when you did all the research and work. I kinda hate it. My last job was less this but I'm in a more systems and development role and literally anytime he gets asks from leadership, he's always like 'Anon, can you check on this?', 'Anon, can you talk to this group?', 'Anon, do you know what this is about?'

>>106323835
Yes for everything including SOP's, shift schedule, PTO coordination, training, and workflow. Get rid of middle managers entirely at this point.

>>106323855
It sucks man. I'm dialing back but a lot more things are falling and it feels like I'm getting blamed even though my boss should've been the one to be more organized and actually plan shit better. I mean in his defense, I've completely stopped saving his ass too and I don't even bring up important topics nor projects anymore to him when he gets sidetracked.

A former boss of mine keeps checking my LinkedIn profile every single week.

>>106321258
According to my resume, I know everything.
I AM the unicorn

I'm so sick of this bullshit thinking about how I can pivot into a sales role.
>I don't want to tell you my skills
>I don't want to do a technical screen
>I don't care about your tech stack
>I can't pronounce your name

Almost everything my boss does and say pisses me off. I don't want to pushback but my filter to just nod my head and go "sure, we can look into this" is starting to get insanely low.

>>106316601 (OP)
>>106322958
live coding is easily the most retarded thing there is for tech interviews, you almost never have to solve a random puzzle on a 1 hour or 2 hour time limit while at work, studying for it is an entirely different skill than knowing programming (so much so that people have to dedicate time to just livecoding practice AWAY from learning their language) and most of the time any real problem you will ever have while working as a developper will be solved in a few hours, maybe even a work day after consulting documentation, reading manuals, even consulting ai and stack overflow most of which is not allowed in these live coding sessions, why the fuck do they make us do something that will never EVER happen at the job you're applying to and isn't even a transferrable skill. its so retarded.

anyway i just applied to a job that basically asked me if im an expert on x programming language, i said yes because of course but ive only ever done kiddy scripts and those have taken me a few days to do on my own with heavy reliance on other people online to finish my projects, how can i prepare for the eventual expert-level live coding questions they'll give me?

I no longer reply to people who start with "hello".

>>106324190
I felt that way years ago. I eventually stopped caring and started slacking off even more. Sometimes I even sabotage projects just to have a laugh.

>>106324252
Any tips to reach this state? It's fucking annoying since I can get him to agree with me but when it comes to leadership he always fucking FOLDS and I'm stuck where it is.

how do you fags still don't get it? they are training jeets to oppose china. they think jeetdia will become as good as china one day, enough to "counter" their tech development

>>106323835
My boss is like that as well. They're control freaks with no ability to delegate authority or issue directives. Pathetic micromanagers with an inflated sense of self worth because they surround themselves by sycophants.

>>106319813
Software engineering is a trade.

Fuck man I'm getting that awful pit in my stomach again. I don't even want to look at my work laptop. It's so shit man all you get when you feel that way is just "take a vacation for a week and hope the feeling goes away" but like 1. why would I want to take a vacation when I feel like fucking shit, I'd rather take a vacation when I actually have some energy to do shit. not just sleep and suck away in bed.
2. the feeling never goes away. it'll eventually always come back.

You guys work in tech.
What is the logic behind intentionally making all tech products worse over time? They could have just not-paid the developers all that time to work on it, or keep a minimal staff to maintain things. Why put money into making it all worse all the time when they could have been directing that effort somewhere else?

god i love my job so fucking much
i can't understand people who work doing something they don't enjoy
i would literally pay to be able to do my job

>>106324329
We do it to fuck with normies

>>106324348
Based and hopeful pilled. I think it's cool too that I get to work with really expensive equipment and resources I wouldn't otherwise have access to.
But feeling stuck in front of a screen for 8+ hours everyday takes a toll.

>>106324329
>What is the logic behind intentionally making all tech products worse over time
we do it because we hate technology

>>106324329

An obsession with "deliverables" and "features" over "just make it work and work well." It's annoying.

>>106324371
but it's good until it gets fucked with so why make it into something you hate?

>>106324363
i think i just have the right kind of autism for what i do. it seems a bit more difficult for my normie coworkers

>>106324375
this. my work just seems to always want to introduce new fucking shit everyday instead of taking a step back to stabilize.

>>106324378
because the industrial revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race
we just want (You) onboard as well :3

>>106324329
In my company at least everyone in charge of making important decisions is a full blown midwit and designers have about the same computer literacy as your grandma.

>>106316732
where does data ops

>>106324329
line go up needs feature creep. feature creep is bloat.

>>106324462
It sounds like maybe monopolies are actually the way to go? I'm predisposed and biased against them because of the culture around the economy and capitalism, but it's become very clear that the only way to maintain a product well is to have a monopoly and be a private company. sure there are issues that come with that, but they are clearly not as bad for the end user as what comes from business graduate's idea of product competition and being exclusively beholden to tricking the market into line go up when you don't actually know how to improve your product or make another one.

>>106324494
>Monopolies are the way to go
>mfw I'm looking at Rogers/Bell/Telus
alright if that's how you want to do it :D
enjoy not having internet for half the year.

i graduated from a local "job offer guaranteed" bootcamp without any job offers because all the sponsors withdrew
a bunch of students tried to sue but the lawyer said the terms allow for it and it'd get arbitrated away even if we did try to sue
how fucking over is it for me?

>>106317206
>signup
kysfag

>>106324507
They're not a monopoly though, they are still competing, they just monopolize areas. if you just had a single dominant product like steam, or formerly xerox, or microsoft up until apple started taking market share on desktops, sure it's a bit of a price gouging situation maybe, but they sit pretty and un"""innovative""" for decades at a time and shit just works. Then you have microsoft competing to be more like apple and then you just have 2 operating systems that are shitty at everything instead of one that was generally good.

Every "improvement" to software products that are in a remotely competitive space made in the past 15 years has been a net negative annoyance.

>>106324494

Monopolies are like the most notorious anti-productivity niggers out there. Have you ever heard of Microsoft or Oracle? lol

>>106324389

This is thanks to the business/product side. They're morons and think the only way to keep their job is to constantly "produce things". They don't understand this is a machine that needs to be more maintained, optimized, rather than constantly Frankenstein'd on top of.

am I fucked if my boss is moving me onto a new team (that he says is underperforming and don't really want me) and he is immediately going on parental leave for 3 months?

>>106324515
the sad part is that you actually believed in it.

>work with this jeet
>black as satan's asshole
>uses 100% white skin tone on Slack
heh

>>106324583
Exactly. When a company feels they NEED to be productive, what happens is they put features nobody wants into products that were already good, and when nobody adopts them they put them IN THE WAY of the features people are using.
Microsoft was perfectly fine pre-competition. Oracle is shit, but not because it wasn't a boring an stable product. There's a spectrum between what Oracle was like, and what companies are like now, and at this point being closer to the way Oracle was seems like a win for the consumer.

Note that this also applies to public companies. They would also be forced into the productivity for productivity's sake treadmill that non-monopolies are forced into.

>Apply to role. Job description basically says generic terms like must be able to build well designed code, have solid security foundations, backend and frontend work.
During the interview they start asking me about how postgres indexes work under the hood. Pages, node pages, keys, pointers, how it uses byte sequences to compare.

>>106324600
Yes. Start looking for a new position. Try picking up some AI skills since it sounds like you're already falling behind. Learn prompting. If you cannot find a new job in three months start a business.

>>106324724
been there, a couple of times even. just be glad you didn't spend 3 days on home assignment only to be invited to a pointless interview.

>>106324556
>"They're still competing"
kahahahahahahahaha yeah competing by just using one guy's resource.

>>106324782
I was kind of stumped desu, I mean, my work is way more applied, desu I should know it, but they only asked for 4 years of experience. I've got way more experience but mostly as a frontend dev. I pivoted it by saying, you know, if you'd asked me something like this about nodejs or react or something, I'd have been able to explain how the event loop works, or how react uses fiber to reconcile changes to the dom. But I have zero knowledge about how these indexes work under the hood.

>grafana/prometheus/loki/tempo stack out of sheer necessity
>30-40% of codebase is now code for observability services
Am I retarded? I literally cannot figure out a way to have the observability that is non-negotiable in a distributed, high volume app like this without this much additional code.

>>106324782
I totally forgot, they also asked me, what happens if you go to any website. You visit google.com or something, what happens between you entering it in the search bar and the websites appearing on your screen.

>>106324955
I shit my pants that's what happens between searching.

>>106324955
I've been asked this twice, it's a reasonable question imo. The postgres one isn't unless the role demands that much specific knowledge

As a chaos chad, how do I live in this law abided society and capitalism? what's the chaos play here?

>>106324977
The play is to grow up.

>>106324906
I will never forget that one time when I was supposed to be interviewed for a C++ gamedev position, and some fucking retard started by asking me some PHP questions.

>>106324984
Grow up and live your lives licking the toes of YHVH?

>>106324625
fuck you i strategized to be an engineer while avoiding the college brainwashing and student debt. and the sponsors were reputable defi companies from the local area, they only bailed because the camp was run by idiots.
at least i only paid $25k for the camp unlike you virgins with student loans

>>106324955
it's a very common question, especially for positions dealing with networking. they expect you to walk them through all the ISO OSI crap.

>>106324955
Is the answer any different from the IT answer? In which case you would describe DNS, IP protocol, hostname translation, then the TCP/IP layers.

>>106325014
>at least i only paid $25k for the camp
Pls don't be serious. Did you at least acquire some competence? What was your capstone project? If you say it was a next.js CRUD app...
>>106325023
No, it's the same. The point of the question is to make sure you understand the basics of networking.

>>106325014
Anon $25K pays for a masters degree. How long was the bootcamp?

>>106325014
>at least i only paid $25k for the camp unlike you virgins with student loans
My B.Eng was free.

He's baiting.

>>106325014
>strategized to be an engineer by not doing the requirement to be an engineer
spoken like a true vibe coder

>>106324969
It's just a full stack role, frontend and backend, building dashboards and charts, with real time updates.
>>106325018
The position has 0 networking involved, it's just postgres nodejs and react.
>>106325023
Yeah that's what I answered as well, from the top of my head. But it really came out of the blue for me. I mean I would ask people about separation of concerns, code organization and architecture, design trade offs, code clarity, where to validate data stuff like that.

>>106325156
If you're a fullstack dev, you need to understand the basics of networking as it applies to webdev. They probably are asking the question because there are genuinely a ton of people applying for these positions that wouldn't know the answer.

>>106325175
Yeah, I answered it, but it is just such a strange thing to ask. I mean, you'd expect more of the stuff I listed for a senior position. At least I would. What they did is like if you apply for a job as an Uber driver, instead of asking you how to operate a car, they ask you to explain how an internal combustion engine and a fuel injection system works.

>>106325211
>I mean, you'd expect more of the stuff I listed for a senior position.
Well did they grill you like you were applying for a NOC position about half the content on the CCNA afterward or was it just the 1 question? You're making it sound like they asked you about it and then didn't ask you about any of the other stuff you listed.

>>106325211
Basics weed out alot of so called "Seniors" who are just lying about what they actually know. Even in IT networking is the basics but people still don't know it so they can sit in the helpdesk for the rest of their careers until they do.

Flashed back to when I interviewed for an L1 NOC position and for some reason the team lead from the L3 team did the interview and grilled me for like 60 minutes with question after question that could have been on the CCNA and then when I started the job it was just helpdesk + 10 commands copy paste over and over again.

>>106325263
All jobs are like this. Interviews asking for hyperspecific knowledge are a waste of everyone's time.

>>106325263
Its called a NOC for a reason anon. You need to know alot of shit before inputting commands willy nilly. Also you do not want to deal with brain dead coworkers who break shit.

>>106325245
Is Trails in the Sky even good?

>>106325305
Absolutely fucking false. The commands were nothing but show commands. L1 didn't even do initial triage, all we did was gather basic diagnostic info with the same commands over and over, paste it in the ticket along with some screenshots and hand it over to L2 unless it came back up with no intervention. That plus sending follow up emails, answering phones etc.

>>106325263
Shit, depending on the team you either get a team that asks you 0 questions about networking or they grill you. But what is great about network interviews is there are typically never several rounds and if you pass you get some ass.

>>106325320
Yeah still better than hiring dumbasses that don't know what a MAC address, default gateway or a autonomous system number is. Be lucky CCNA/CCNP is a filter for undeserving retards. Its something that can be replaced by jeets in ontario canada.

>>106325351
more jeets have those certs than Whites though

>>106325369
They can't pass interviews with the questions on the certs.

>>106325369
What fucking questions would you use to filter out 100 job applications?

>>106325237
No they literally spent 40 minutes on the postgres and indexes stuff I mentioned. Like how indexes work in postgres internals. And then they asked me in 5 minutes how to build restful api endpoints. Oh and they asked me about closures. I have no idea what noc and ccna is, like I told you, it was for fullstack, not a networking or database engineer position.

How do I let go of my ego? My projects constantly gets shifted around (scope creeped, add more features, etc) when I get them to a steady place by management and I'm starting to take it personally. It's gone to a point where I don't even want to take new projects anymore.

>>106325414
you're there to do what you're told in exchange for money. if you are butthurt about retarded management find another job or start your own thing

>>106325245
I just remembered every senior role I applied to and got to the final round I get asked a weird question that has no real answer or real world application. The interviewers don't even bother setting it up properly, try to answer any questions to get clarity, or even know what they're asking. Every time I get a similar question like it, I already know its a lost cause and they already made their decision 5 minutes into the interview.

>>106325429
I wish it's even that. It's more like "I'm feeling like eating today, ANON FETCH ME SOME FOOD!"
"I don't know what I want to eat, just get me something and we'll work with it."
"I DONT WANT BURGERS, I DONT WANT CHINESE, I DONT WANT KETCHUP IN THE BURGERS, HMM maybe we need to go bigger. Can you also find desert for me as well? Maybe I should get something like Taco bell, no maybe mcdonalds."

Like I'm fucking creating the requirements and the solutions and they just weigh in, scoop in and go "no acktually can we do x,y,z,a,b,c" and I'm just like what the fuck man. If I ask them what specifically they want, they won't know or just tell me to figure something out.

>>106325369
>>106325351
I would honestly say, CCNA/CCNP has more power and standing in american hands than indian hands and I'm pretty sure that employers know that. At least in the clearance space

>>106325458
>I wish it's even that
it literally is just what i said though. your options are quitting or sucking it up. seething about it wont change anything. and its not really an ego issue, its an incompetent management issue.

>>106325369
>>106325375
Neither could I desu
>>106325403
some bullshit questions for sure but then pass any White male that showed decent problem solving skills

>>106325458
In the case of women you just say we are going to X then get in the car first. For the company you let the wheels keep spinning while you keep learning.

>>106325464
In the clearance space its more of a hard requirement to get the job so interviewing over the questions from those certs matters alot. Also like i said before you do not want to hire retards for a NOC position.

>>106325475
sigh yeah I'm trying to figure out how to suck it up while I try to quit it up but doing both is kinda messing with my head internally. sucking it up is hard when my mind and body are literally going 'fuck this noise'.
>>106325481
ironically its always boomers. these fuckers cannot provide directions or decisions at all. all they can do is just come in strongarm some random shit and then leave.

If AI is so good why doesn't every service just expose the API and let an AI generate a UI that works in the way that I actually want it to rather than whatever shitty designer+AI combo comes up with?

ai ai ai
where's my butterfly
green black and blue are the colors of the sky

>>106325518
You be the company that does that then anon. Programming is a space for those who make things possible. I am also waiting for meteor mining and fusion so hurry up wagie.

>>106325518
cause ai is good as an alternative to stack overflow/google and as an implementation tool for relatively small, highly specific and thought through changes

>>106323691
the reason they isn't much integration is because there's no incentive to integrate them
software and websites (web apps) of 20 years ago were garage band levels of ameture
those ametures made their money and cashed our while the going was good, and now the only programmers that are left are late to the party, fighting over a tiny yet shrinking piece of the pie with the entire world, and in the end the final product might only be used by a handful of users for about 2 weeks before they ditch it and go back to whatever they were doing before
the golden age of tech eclipsed 20 years ago, now it's just shit
get in, do the minimum and make your money, pay off debnts, get out, buy land and garden
the next 50 years tech is going to become so shit even the kids stop using it (not even for porn)

>>106325518
For the same reason companies don't post their entire corporate structure and PII on a forum somewhere.

I am so back. Got a good defense swe offer. I need to get secret clearance. I will come up clean on the drug test as I have been sober a couple years. My record is spotless. However, in my past I have done a lot of drugs and been a daily stoner. I can coach my references and don’t have social media. Is it Reddit advice to be completely honest in sf86 form or do minimize or omit? I also firmly believe polys are bullshit and could beat one.

Am I blessed or not blessed that my department doesn't really use KPI?

>>106325579
LOL you cannot beat it anon government shit actually works.

>>106324094
>I don't want to do a technical screen

i really don't know why I even went to college if I have to encounter this on the regular.
No other profession has this shit. Verify my creds and move me along. Fuck's sake!

>>106325597
I won’t get one for secret, only if I need top secret down the road. And no it doesn’t actually work they just hype it so you admit things. Watch the Penn and Teller about it you can also clench your anal sphincter to control your readings.

>>106325626
No anon police get the fake shit. You cannot beat a real one.

>>106325579
Why would you even mention it if there's no proof of it that they can find? The fuck?

>>106324219
>live coding is easily the most retarded thing there is for tech interviews, you almost never have to solve a random puzzle on a 1 hour or 2 hour time limit while at work

It really is as retarded as professors making you code on pen and paper. It gets worse when they want you to live build a sorting algorithm and have it pass several test cases.

>>106325579
Secret clearance is ezpz brother, you got this. People get secrets with way more baggage, JUST DONT LIE.

>>106325626
Clenching your ass doesn't work anymore, they now have ass plates that detect that shit.
>>106325649
Because if they see ANY smidge of a record, ANY witnesses or close associates cooberate opposing information they drop the case dude. So just say what you think you've done so you don't have to change the story every 2 years when you hop to a new job, or upgrade a clearance.

>>106325579
>I also firmly believe polys are bullshit and could beat one.

I may be wrong on this, but I don't think polys are used for Secret clearance.

>>106325692
There are not also 4 types. You cannot lie admit everything.

>>106325692
They aren't. They are 4rd tier clearance. Secret > Top Secret > TS/SCI > TS/SCI + Poly. Pretty sure that is how far the normoids can go without being read on to actual fucked up shit.

Spooks get read on.

>>106325649
My current plan is to say that I used to use weed in college and early professional career. Stopped because I realized I was self medicating and got pharma drugs that helped more. In reality I had a dab rig and vape pen and was high fir line 5-6 years. I am sober now. I also did acid about 20 times and mdma about 10 times an mushrooms one twice and some weird mda shit once. I can’t decide if should admit that or not since I might get a poly years from now for top secret. I was thinking of minimizing it and saying I tried molly and acid with my now wife at burning man and rolled with her at my apartment once versus I railed k off a strangers titties at BM and rode a bike around the playa and then took liquid lsd from a stranger and ended on a sunrise set art car with Tycho himself. Do I admit to harder drugs, not admit at all, or minimize? I have honestly been drug free completely including alcohol for a couple of years. They could definitely find out about by my former weed use but highly doubt they could find out about the drug use from references besides my wife and closest friends who I will coach.

>>106325697
At the end of the day, that's true.
They don't give a shit if you actually smoked weed before, they just care if you're a liability.

>>106325715
There are 2 more above that anon with far more accurately tuned shit to go with it. Credit score, past vices and other minor shit matters even more the higher up you go. DO NOT LIE.

>>106325739
Technically you are supposed to admit every instance of doing drugs? I literally don’t remember for a couple of years I did acid a couple of times a month mostly alone. I don’t know the dates. I also smoked weed every day for like 5 years. Do you summarize and minimize or something? Mu buddies wife got TS by saying she did coke a few times and passed a polly when in reality she was doing it every weekend for a while.

>>106325739
True true, there are also multiple types of polygraph. There is the regular SCI poly, where it' really about a baseline. Then it's the 4 hour lifestyle poly that the CIA, NSA, FBI blah blah blah use.

>>106325730
nobody cares about your drug use fag, go humble brag elsewhere

>>106325730
>yeah I used this drug that exposes all the lies and propaganda but I'm totally on board with your agenda trust me bro
idk but good luck anon this is why I don't go for those jobs
I'd probably lie

>>106325739
My credit score is 820, about 1M NW and I don’t even have a misdemeanor. Don’t have social media and haven’t for 10 years. My past 5 years work network is remote and they wouldn’t have a clue about drug use. I haven’t really had local friends in 5+ years that would know shit.

>>106325781
Just give them the gist. Every single time is nigh impossible. Alot of pot smokers. they are going after heavy drug users in terms of volume and content. So if you smoked meth and used Vicodin as a suppository then followed it with a wine bottle up your ass then you will have massive problems.

>>106325781
Dude, you gotta know this shit we don't lol. If they come behind your buddies bitch, and they see some crazy shit it might bring her clearance under scrutiny. It's just a headache you don't want to deal with. Trust me, they let in complete fucking retard schizoid degenerates into the government (anyone in the army) so don't worry about that shit just don't lie.

>>106325789
They don’t allow H1Bs thats the entire reason.

>>106325795
Your fine lol. Can you atleast cough up financial info on command if they request it?

>>106325831
Yea no different than getting a mortgage

>>106322830
Imposter syndrome only affects a tiny portion of actual talents and they wouldn't even consider that they have it in the first place. Anyone who says they have imposter syndrome really does suck at their job.

>>106326153
Its a reddit tier diagonios on par with depression, autism and adhd/add. Atleast with burnout you can recover quickly from it but most of these willy wonka medical theories for mental health are bullshit.

>>106323641
There are some people who believe that the current models are as good as chat-AIs back in 2017. Other retards believe that ASI has already been achieved. The smart people (like me) use AI to automate shitty work and avoid googling for hours like a caveman.

>>106326214
Pretty much what I use to put my google searches into plain text/speech instead of buzzwords to find what i want.

>recrooter offering me an automation techlead position
>my current title is software engineer
Is it considered a downgrade?

>>106326393
It's just two ways to say developer.

Hello sar, this is Mike Johnson from talent agency. We are impressed with your qualifications and would like to invite you to apply to our data entry role for $40/hr. Please download Teams and do not redeem.

>>106326454
Can't even afford a loaf of bread if its under 80/hr

Anyone in embedded here? How is it.

>>106326454
I fill out their retarded skills matrix and never even get an interview
waste of my time

>>106326434
Yeah but for this role it is test automation, which is less lucrative. I will probably be a techlead in a team of test writers and I will be responsible for their infrastructure and I'm guessing also be adjacent to DevOps and their CI/CD.
I don't mind actually doing this job but it feels like it will just narrow down my career.

I have no energy to work anymore but our tier 1 guy is gone on vacation and I'm covering his work and people are being EXTRA stupid today (or we have a sev 1 bug) but it's on the state of people emailing us why their VPN isn't working even though we're only covering support for a certain application only. bro I am losing my patience. I'm about ready to ignore these emails and let this guy respond back when he returns.

>>106326454
If your recruiter is Indian, hang up. They will 100% lie to your client to try and get an interview.

>>106326485
Then don't faggot, you must really got it like that lmao. Go get a cooler job.
>>106326487
>tier 1 on vacation
lmao, helldeskers should never get vacations.

>>106326491
That's good though? I want an interview

you """people""" are a bunch of pussies, holy fuck

>>106326515
I see myself in Kizaru.

>>106326474
Bump
I also want to know

>>106326515
Keep talking like that and I'll make you my pocket bussy.

>>106326491
The reference is that there is no job.
They're baiting with a high paying do-nothing job to commit check fraud

>>106320753
First off, CAD is not non-technical
Secondly, it is an entry level gruntwork role which is also amost a dead end job

>>106326625
This shit. If you want to be paid well for fabrication, you need a mechanical engineering degree.

I finally solved an issue for a ticket I've been working on for 3 weeks. Head of engineering complained that I don't ask for help enough. I agree, but in my defense this shit ass start up has me working on multiple different projects all with different tech stacks. I'm fucking split and the context switching is burning me out. The solution to the issue I was having was clearly listed in the documentation of the package causing said issue. I feel so fucking dumb and inept. I was circling for days just using our shitty proprietary AI tool lol. I really hate tech and would love to get out. I'm definitely a mediocre developer. But I can not work a non-remote job for less than 6 figures anymore. So I guess I'll just keep drinking shots at noon and feeling shitty

>>106320753
>>106326625
>>106326650
I'm a product design engineer and let me tell you guys, this field fucking sucks. Egos the size of monuments. The good jobs are gatekept like hell. FAGMAN refusing to hire. Disorganized teams. Everyone and their mother think they know what they're talking about just because they're able to see it. Short deadlines. Forced to act as the project manager and still expected to get the engineering parts done. I should not have gotten an ME degree or gone into this field.

How do I stop inefficient shit like this?
>Guy X from Team X answered the question the first time when this came up.
>Someone asks our team about the question.
>My coworker A asks me
>I say Team X.
>Team X redirects back to my team (how in the fuck)
>A redirects to my boss.
>boss directs them to team X.
This happens constantly and I'm getting really fucking tired of this. Guy X isn't really replying because I assume he's busy with other shit and I'll be honest, I don't think he was really the right guy to redirect this to but he's the only one with the answer and I can't be assed to bring up the email where he answered and tell A the answer.

>>106326691
If you get assigned a single ticket worth three weeks of work, your PO and SM suck at their job.

>>106326694
If you're knowledgable about product design, I have a question for you. Which loli do you think is most asthetically pleasing?

>>106326694
Move to semiconductor manufacturing its where all of the PhD's are going too.

>>106326719
Well, they fucking do lol. Eng head even said this ticket required multiple engineers. Guess they thought fucking killing me was fine *shrug*.
They are also stretched thin. PMing for multiple projects.
Same old shit, middle management is worked to the bone or non existent. I need a new job, but the market is shit.

>>106326740
You ever read edgy harem berserk before? I forgot the title of it

>>106326772
Post the image and someone will find it.

>>106326758
You'll probably need to sacrifice more free time to prepare for interviews.

>>106326776
I mean I'll eventually find it but that was a fun read. It's mad stupid though. I heard it gets even stupid as MC's son cucks him.

>>106326753
I basically have to start back down to zero if I want to move into semis and I only have a bachelors.

I still remember my managers trying to convince me to go get a masters in engineering for product design. No one needs it but its the pedigree bs the field has been trying to push for decades. Also, MSc in engineering is a joke but don't tell them that.

>>106326778
Yeah, you're right. I'm starting leet-coding again. I have no problem with the bs-ing/soft skill part of interviews. I've charmed my way through life. Trauma helps with problem solving!

>>106326800
Skip the MSc and get a Phd alot of CS students do that if they want to get into Semiconductors. How much are you getting paid? Hopefully it's more than 80k yr?

>>106326823
I lucked my way through life so far. Praying to god absolutely does pay.

>>106326844
>Praying to god absolutely does pay.
based and same. Praying also resolves my tickets.

>>106326828
For PDE and you're at a big tech company, expect starting at $120k+ base. Senior can go $160k+ base. If you're at a smaller company you're looking at $50k-$60k starting. $80k+ with some experience. Companies really undervalue MEs in general and right now everyone across the board is looking for a unicorn that does not exist. Here's a kicker, most companies have horrible practices that does not scale so if you try to make a jump you'll either A) get filtered out because you have bad practices or B) the company has poor practices and they reject due to you having good practices. Also, the good ol' boy system runs rampant.

On the PhD stuff, I honestly don't know what to go for. Semis don't interest me at all so that probably doesn't help and I don't feel like putting my life on pause for another 3-4 years.

>>106316601 (OP)
Customers are so delusional now. I have been in IT support since the late 90s. In the past ~5 yrs customers have become fully retarded.

>we noticed your system was down for 5 mins the other day
>plz let us know why it was down
>who did it affect
>what caused it to go down
>future steps you will take to prevent this from happening
>steps you took to correct the problem
>your internal reference number for this ticket
>a detailed time line of the system going down and coming back online
>t. customer paying $11 per month

>>106326984
yeah we get this but for a half second blip in traffic which was only noticed by looking at the dashboard and then they demand to know why the CPU is at 75C and what steps we are taking to provide better cooling

>>106326984
>>106327022
Oh no people haven't stopped being retarded since the 90s? Must be the world ending!

>>106327054
nobody said that. Can you read?

so how exactly do you handle burnout while RTO? WfH is easy but curbing your autism and not giving negative body language when it's another stupid fucking email when in the office is hard

>>106327022
some people should not be in IT, at all

>>106327054
you have no reading comprehension and forums might not be a good hobby for you

>>106327094
>>106327070
Whatever, I'm still correct.

>>106326984
That is a jew looking for a lawsuit

>>106316601 (OP)
Y'all notice a lot more hate towards Indians after the latest semi truck crash? I wonder if Carney has the audacity to halt the import of more to appease the populace. Idk... we're probably too far gone at this point...

>>106316767
Same here, I thought I made your post. My manager is an obese brown noser who slurs his speech from too much sugar. My skills ECLIPSE all of his except his managerial obedience.

>>106323349
I've done a few projects for family and friends. Most often, they're slow to commit to stuff no matter who they are. Updating company websites, or building new ones isn't their main priority. You could perhaps do some instigating to see how certain they are before commiting to a bunch of meetings - ask them what red tape there is first early on, but with different context specific wording.

>>106322619
Having no thank you money is great. Once you get to 5 years worth of expenses as savings, the comfy times keep getting comfier.

I keep seeing articles that mention that there's a global shortage of software engineers. The question is: I don't know what's the current status of the market, but was that phrase ever true since 2015? Or is it bullshit?

>>106323349
My friend from the gym once asked me to buy and install a NAS for his very small business. I agreed and got paid for the time and the equipment itself.

The task was very easy, but because of extraneous detail, I would just end up being permanent and unbilled IT support for that NAS.

NAS goes offline because his co-owner had Xfinity install a new modem?
>"Hey man, can you come check out the NAS, I think it's down."

Then, there's even the oversight that I ignored which was that it required DDNS, so someone would have to manually renew certificates.

It's just a fucking mess. I've never done it again and tried as hard as possible from then on to severely down-play my skills to friends and family.

Just got my annual raise. 2.26%. Fuck. What did you guys get this year?

>>106327366
Its a meme to open source saturate the market with kids who chase money. It happened in 90's with engineers then 2000's with lawyers, 2010's with pharmacists, and 2020 programmers.

There is some build up time to saturation which is about 15 years before with magazines, news articles and many other advert methods from the companies themselves.

What happens at saturation point is that the chaff is removed from the pipelines, interviews and entry level positions. All that is left afterwards are those who like the job. The days of easy money and passion projects is over.

>>106327366
>I don't know what's the current status of the market, but was that phrase ever true since 2015? Or is it bullshit?

At this point in time, nothing makes sense.
Nursing has a shortage. What do they do? Hire RN's right on the initial interview after verifying creds and licenses.

Tech has a shortage, What do they do? Layoff >10% of their staff and have people with PhDs look towards the trades just to survive.

There's gonna be industry-shattering whistleblowing any day now over this, cause shit like this can't be unknown for so long.

>>106327424
>waiting for raises like a corpo-cuck
>not job-hopping every 2 years

>>106327443
Do you think the recent layoffs to make software development as cheap as possible have anything to do with all the data breaches that have happened?

>>106326454
recently one of them tried to poach me posing as a Polish recruiter. shit was hilarious.
>hello saaar, my name is Grzegorz Brzeczyszczykiewicz
dude was batting way out of his league. but honestly I don't blame them for trying. I see a jeet recruiter, I reject and block. I tried talking to them a couple of times, and it was always a waste of time.

>>106327519
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>>106325579
I just told them I smoked weed in college(true) and they didn't ask anything else. They were more concerned about my finances(mortgage + s/l debt). Just tell the truth, but also, don't use within 6 months and remember that you have NEVER done any psychedelics such as acid or shrooms. So it's ok if you used to smoke, but if they ask remember that NOT ONCE IN YOUR LIFE have you done psychs

>>106327366
there was until 100k bachelors in comp sci were awarded per year around 2019.
the current situation is that 40% of all software engineer jobs are held by immigrants and there are multiple times as many people looking for positions than there are jobs. not to mention offshoring.

>>106327545
Why psychedelics specifically?

>>106326487
>tier2/3 "engineer" can't handle the workload of his tier1
lmao if you can't solve those problems in 30 seconds you're an overpaid brown

>>106327559
>He doesn't know

>>106327466
Okay, what's your total comp then?

>>106327466
job-hopping is great in the beginning, but it doesn't really work that well after you get, like, 10yoe.
>inb4 you should already be retired after 10 years
yeah, good luck with that

>>106327424
you guys are getting raises?

>>106327559
ganja is the grey area where they will let shit slide
psychs are not, they treat people that experiment like they are traitors to the country and unable to perform any ops. most normies have tried ganja before, but the psychs are a step up from that

>>106327568
Ah right. Anon works in defense, something something MKUltra.

>>106325014
damn I could have gotten into this field 6 years ago if only I listened to some good advice multiple people gave me
But at least I didn't fuck up as bad you

>>106325014
>at least i only paid $25k for the camp unlike you virgins with student loans
I Googled shit until I could convince somebody to hire me. I didn't pay a fucking cent lmfao

imagine causing a sev1

>>106327511
Data breaches are common just because the private sector doesn't take infosec seriously.
A couple months ago MITRE almost completely killed the CVE program because of lack of funding. Even though every modern anti-virus and security team relies on it, they couldn't find private donors when the US government stopped paying.
Security will always be considered an unnecessary expense until the company loses billions because of a single data breach.

>>106327424
>>106327617
About 1% the last few years and with higher expectations. Cocksuckers.
I just scheme ways to appear irreplaceable while dodging bitch work and of course never going into the office. Could be worse I guess.

>>106325014
>reputable
>defi
kek

>>106327781
jeets functionally killed the CVE program anyway by pooping in it

>>106327781
it doesnt help that 78 iq indians are writing the majority of software

i had to write a harsh comment in a pr today...
how do you guys cope with the guilt?

>>106327876
Just preface it with "nit: "

>>106326691
>>106326758
>Head of engineering complained that I don't ask for help enough.

If you ask for some help, the head of engineering will say you're asking for too much help. He sounds like an incompetent person himself. Otherwise, he would've tackled the task directly given the shortage of workers and his greater experience.

the best part of AI is that I no longer have to scroll through faggots' 20 page essay of ad bait bullshit to find the one line command I need. You reap what you sow SEO niggers

>>106324724
Tbh I've been doing a bit of research, but it seems that in the US a computer science degree is much more theory heavy than in the EU. I mean, you'd only get this stuff if you'd go to a technical university or something, but not if you just go to a regular higher education. There they just teach you how to build shit, but not really how it works. In the 13 years I've been working, I've only worked with 2 people who ever had a university degree. The rest were either self taught or completed some other degree like mathematics or physics or something.

>>106327876
>how do you guys cope with the guilt?
I never get any. but I also don't write harsh comments at work. deep breaths, count to 10, "I am here just for the money", and just click that "pr approved" button and thumbs up emoji.

>>106327628
Yea I am just going to admit to being a former heavy weed smoker and that I rolled on mdma with my wife at festivals a few times and did blow at a bachelor party once and always remember that I have never done psychedelics.

>>106327826
>I just scheme ways to appear irreplaceable while dodging bitch work and of course never going into the office. Could be worse I guess.
That's been me for the last 3 years. But I just got moved to a much more visible team unfortunately, so RIP my god-tier WLB

>>106327443
>Tech has a shortage, What do they do? Layoff >10% of their staff and have people with PhDs look towards the trades just to survive.

It's easy to quantify the work of a nurse just by their hours regardless of bureaucratical shenanigans. But, with tech work, it's harder because not all of the work can easily be quantified. There are too many lazy tech workers taking advantage of the intangible nature of their work, so companies purge them wholesale in order trim the fat, accepting the loss of good employees. They then hire new workers because new workers are less likely to be lazy since they haven't yet adapted to their new workplace. This would keep the remaining workers on their toes and hopefully discourage them from slacking off.

>>106327876
You need to be honest with PR comments. Otherwise, mistakes will be repeated. Blameless culture in tech companies is what's causing software to become worse over time. Incompetent devs continue to ride off the coattails of competent devs with asymmetrical burden of responsibility and without learning from their mistakes. Eventually, the competent devs leave in frustration.

>try to get PR in
>someone pushes a PR that breaks the infra first
>fix the infra issue
>another PR comes in that breaks the infra in a new way
I'm tired of this

Sam Altman is a prepper and foresees a world without technology coming very soon. Why aren't you the same?

>>106327839
saar program has method to Log In is very insecure

>>106327935
You need to put the blame on the google algorithm to explain annoying ads, once again.

cybersec retards be like
>MASSIVE 0DAY JUST FOUND WHY ISNT THE MSM TALKING ABOUT THIS?????

cybersec retards be like
>MASSIVE 0DAY JUST FOUND WITH FULL NAMES PHONE NUMBERS AND OTHER PII FOR MILLIONS OF SUBSCRIBERS
>WHY ISNT THE MSM TALKING ABOUT THIS?????

>>106328409
Look at this dood wagie trying to keep some actual principles in a corpo job. Yeah I am sure it’s the “blameless culture “ making software shitty lol.

>>106328409
>Eventually, the competent devs leave in frustration.
name even one competent dev

Why haven't you joined the US Space Force, /twg/? You get a free clearance as soon as you start and free school as soon as you leave. Clearance jobs that only need CISSP certification are 1.3M TC starting even in LCOL areas. Do the fucking math.

>>106328827
maybe 1.3M Lakh

>>106328858
Clearances are only given to US CITIZENS so no jheets in ClearanceJobs

>>106328858
isn't lakh a unitless number, not a currency

>>106328872
>He doesn't know

i have a new billion dollar idea.

0s and 1s is still just binary. thats what i was looking at, something to compress even further.

so binary is a series of numbers powered by an electrical current, like ticker tape being fed - or just a motherboard for regular PCs- into the cpu, or gpu with new gpus idc, to read, spit out onto a computer screen, right?

so the mainframe could feed the binary data of this super-compressed collection of images (into the kBs) into the electricals to transfer the data. in this case its a fridge freezer motor and its output is the dissipation of heat.

the goal would be to compress "that" to store it more effectively... the cold, not binary. the less heat in the the end means all the more compression for the data, as its converting the binary -> cold...

who's building this with me?

>>106328908
This sounds like some shit Egyptians would have made if they were stuck with going through libraries of books to recreate a computer. BTW who is this anime girl i need to coom?

>>106328939
wtf thats me

>>106328908
wtf are you trying to say

>>106319375
>Muh Pirate Software tier pentester

Why is it that security people are either brilliant or the biggest midwit you know? There's no middle ground.

>>106328978
amerilards think "hacking" is like in the movies and is le super cool and only le heckin 900iq black man can do it so that's who gets to be in the news, but the people actually advancing cybersecurity are mostly retards making up new password rules backed up by a couple of high lord mathematicians actually creating new encryption schemes (that take 50 years to become prolific)

>>106328978
They get college kids and drop outs. The rest of IT gets certs, bootcamps and high school drop outs. Programmers atleast finished college no less with a CS degree.

>>106328978
Somewhere along the way security started being looked at as a "cool job" and suddenly people who store passwords on notepad started calling themselves cybersec.
I personally stopped identifying myself as such after seeing the current state of Defcon. The space is in a dark place right now.

>>106323641
You have generals on multiple boards all over the site, including ones that disallow generals otherwise, and a constant stream of threads on top of that. Do you really need to shart up /twg/ with even more aislop marketing?

>>106325245
>weed out seniors
You mean weed out people who don't work on basics because they passed that point a decade ago and you want to hire a senior to do junior work for junior wages.

>>106328978
99% of "tech" "people" are absolute midwits, this is not unique to security

>>106325730
Chances are most of the higher ups there are the same ones doing acid and weed back in the 60s and 70s so they're not going to care.

>>106326691
>I finally solved an issue for a ticket I've been working on for 3 weeks
>I was circling for days just using our shitty proprietary AI tool
Found the problem.

Quantum Computing will be the next meme

>>106329127
nah. we already had that before crypto got big

next big meme will be QUANTS and their tools and eventual total automation

Is it possible to get a job in tech if I have severe dandruff? We're talking big crunchy flakes like half an inch to a side, here.

the new ham and cheese hot pockets are inedible tier.

>>106329300
The philly cheese steak hot pockets are better anyways

>>106329300
ham and cheese has always been the worst sandwich

>coworkers are talking about sports
>I, being a 10x Engineer, care not for sports and have more intellectual pursuits
>one of the normies asks me my least favorite hockey team for some unknown normie reason
>say "The Galbadia Bears, of course." partly as a joke, but mostly to confuse the normies with such an obscure reference into ceasing involving me in their normiebabble

>IT monkey starts railing on and on about how FF8 is his favorite game and how great the junction system is

Why are IT nocoder niggers like this? Be silent in the presence of your MASTERS, you do not even have a real Tech Work.

>>106328978
I think thissecurity people come from at least 2 different places: CS/programmers (even the self-taught ones) and networking people. I think the "programmer" type usually look for the root cause of vulnerabilities and are able to think in wider context of applications to exploit the issues, while people who have background in networking usually just throw shit at things to see if it sticks.
these days you have cybersec degrees though, so I'm not sure how much things have changed.

>>106329632
>I think the "programmer" type usually look for the root cause of vulnerabilities
GROK, IS THIS TRUE???

>>106329187
You'll fit in fine. Typical tech company offices smell so bad you can see stink lines emanating from them. What's a little dandruff added to unhygienic techbro culture?

Someone I used to work with got a new job that's apparently just full time posting shit on LinkedIn or something

>>106329524
he's not wrong. ff8 rules

>be cybersec analyst
>tell IT monkeys that airgapped assets are more secure
>we should move our infra to airgapped systems for security
>they tell me they can't
Literally why can they not. Do IT niggers just hate having secure clouds or something?

>>106330024
no, just work

new thread when?

I'm a data scientist working on a non-technical team (I'm the "data guy"). My boss has realized that if I'm out, the team can't function. So she brought on another guy to learn some of my tasks and act as a redundancy. They did not listen to any of my feedback about what the job requires, or what kind of person they should hire.

Today, I told my "backup" to double click an icon and he responded "double click with the left mouse button or the right?" Jesus.

Cyber SOC is the best! 90% of stuff isn't our problem.
Some zero day whatever, that's patch management or vulnerability team.
DDOS? Network guys get to it.
We've been hacked?? Management blame hot potato.

>>106330214
kek

@Everyone requesting a new thread asap

>>106330214
stop giving feedback to management they don't care/think it's funny.

@team make sure to also do X when implementing Y, otherwise Z breaks
cc @dumbassjeet I saw A was broken so I fixed it in my PR for B
(emote reaction from @dumbassjeet thumbs up skin tone 4)

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>>106329524
>makes a highly autistic joke
>>Why are IT nocoder niggers like this?

Backed out of amazon interview and sort of regretting it. At 160k TC super chill job. Its onsite but I only work about 2-3 hours a week and mostly watch youtube all day. Amazon would have been 230-250 TC. Did I make a mistake bros? Devops Eng, 2 YOE