Thread 106366919

Some time ago an anon mentioned a few ways which might improve thread quality on 4chan (>>106216023). I thought they were quite clever.

What if, instead of moving to an altchan, we create an extension ON TOP of 4chan?

After creating a thread the OP will be able to collapse (but not delete) any reply in his thread. Such replies will automatically appear collapsed to anyone else using the extension. This will be done with a central server. Of course, whenever OP is being an ass, you should be able to disable collapsing replies per-thread.

Other possible ideas:
>Ability to tag your threads and browse or filter tags in the catalog.
>Always show an (OP) marker on any replies by OP, for everyone.

Thoughts? I might try implementing these in the near future.

Let me elaborate. We all know that flamewars, thread derailment, and overall low post quality is a growing problem on 4chan. While some other forums are able to maintain a very high level of discussion, nearly all of them are identity-based, with users posting either under their real names or under pseudonyms.

>>106366923
Some people suggest altchans as an alternative. Unfortunately, they are slow as shit. Even if altchans gained more users, they would likely become affected by the same problems unless they implement additional measures aimed at preventing this. Anonymous forums are inherently attractive for people looking to cause trouble, after all.
Another common suggestion is to have better moderation. However, aside the fact that we can't control moderation on 4chan, who decides what's good and what's bad?

>>106366929
I propose a way to improve this site which we can do entirely on our own, and which doesn't involve moving to another *chan. We could build an extension on top of 4chan. This sidesteps the slow board issue; even if nobody uses the extension, you still have your plain old 4chan.

I believe that the OP plays an important role in their thread's development. If a thread is mistreated, abused, or ignored by its OP, it will grow up to be problematic, ill-tempered and rude. Threads need love, but also the occasional disciplining. For better or for worse, the mods aren't here to help us, which means that it's (You)r responsibility to raise your thread properly. Therefore, the idea is to give OP anons a more prominent role within the threads they make.

>>106366935
With that in mind, we could:
1. Give OPs soft moderation power in their own threads. After creating a thread, the OP will be able to collapse (but not completely hide) any reply to his thread. Such replies will automatically appear collapsed to anyone else using the extension.

2. It would be nice to see how OP engages with replies, or if they're present at all. An absent OP often (though not always) indicates that it's a throwaway thread they didn't care about, and which you should probably ignore. Admittedly, I haven't thought about the full consequences of automatically turning OPs into namefags within their threads.

3. The above only addresses internal issues within a given thread. To improve the catalog, we could add tagging. As the OP, you'd be able to add arbitrary tags to your threads, which could then be searched for or filtered by other anons. Also, every post made by a user with this extension will automatically have a built-in tag, which will hopefully become a mark of quality that you can filter for, if you please. If not, tags could still be useful to identify the particular type of posts you want to see or exclude (maybe you're tired of AI threads?).

Can you go spam your chatgpt shit somewhere else, fuckface?

>>106367066
That's very rude anon. I wrote all of it myself.

>>106366919 (OP)
Bring back visible sage! Add a blue (SAGE) text next to the name when a post uses sage.
>>106366939
You can make it optional, it would be more like adding IDs for specific users.

>>106366919 (OP)
>OP will be able to
>Give OPs soft moderation power in their own threads
>This will be done with a central server
How does the OP of a 4chan thread proves to your central server that he is actually OP? It's not like your server can ask 4chan servers who's OP. You'd need something like tripcodes or asymmetric signatures in each OP or hidden in the OP image.
>>106366935
>>106366939
I don't believe that OP owns a thread, a thread is something that is collective, it doesn't even matter who created it or for what purpose what's interesting is that it evolves often in unexpected ways, the freedom we have is nice I don't see the point of allowing OP to limit this freedom. (For what purpose?) (What if a malicious user keep making the OP of a general for the purpose of using OP powers to disrupt discussion?)
I see the idea of a 4chan overlay as interesting for the opposite reasons, to improve freedom, for example to allow continuing a thread that was deleted by a mod for a bullshit reason, this is what ghostposting in archives kind of already provides and it's very useful also for when 4chan goes offline which is also when a lot of altchan historically become more used (remember april?).
>>106366929
>Some people suggest altchans as an alternative. Unfortunately, they are slow as shit
Let's be honest, the percentage of 4channers that would use your extension would be also very small.
Installing an extension might be an even higher obstacle than just opening a link to an altchan, so maybe a 4chan overlay might have even less users than an altchan.

we could have small arrows beside the thread and each post, one pointing upward and one pointing downward

>>106367205
Interesting, why do you think visible sages would improve threads?

>>106367236
>How does the OP of a 4chan thread proves to your central server that he is actually OP?
meh, that's an implementation detail. I'm sure there is a better way, but maybe IPs would be enough for a start.
>I don't believe that OP owns a thread
Do you think mods own the site then, just because they have the ability to moderate?
>what's interesting is that it evolves often in unexpected ways
I don't think an extension like that would prevent this. It would depend on the OP, and also you get to toggle collapsing per-thread if you don't like what the OP is doing. Of course it's cool when a thread develops organically, but very often I see people attempt to slide threads with /pol/ stuff which is usually no fun.
>Let's be honest, the percentage of 4channers that would use your extension would be also very small.
Why? I think 4chanx has a significant userbase.
Again, the point of this is that there is no barrier to entry. If no one is using it, you still see the usual 4chan posts. Very different from opening and posting on another site which is a barren wasteland.

>>106367309
Is any change whatsoever automatically equivalent to turning 4chan into reddit?

>>106366935
>>106366939
OP having a role in threads is a terrible idea. Ylilauta had that and it doesn't add anything positive. All it does is create a dialogue between OP and other anons, instead of threads being about OP setting a topic and freefrom after that.

>>106367370
>All it does is create a dialogue between OP and other anons
I suppose OP markers could lead to that.
But what about moderation or tagging by OP like I described? Did Ylilauta have that?

>>106366919 (OP)
I want AI to automatically tag what a thread is about

>>106366939
>Give OPs soft moderation power in their own threads.
One of the worst ideas i have heard in a long time

>>106367416
>moderation
Does discussions about shitty OPs sound nice to you? How about making splinter threads if OP x has shitty thread jannying and now you have 2 threads about a topic, both with a low-entry power-tripper at helm?

I hope you think this through anon.

>>106366919 (OP)
if you want to improve 4chan posts quality:
- bring back poster count, or implement cloaks for every poster.
- give jannies some shekhels so they will have motivation to moderate boards properly
- implement fast PoW captcha instead of this mess we have now
- allow people to upload files other than images globally
- put a bullet through Jay's head
- ban all IPs from India and Israel

>>106367474
A shitty OP usually implies a shitty thread as well. There is no point in engaging with shitty OPosts unless you want to participate in a flamewar. If the post itself is fine but OP is power tripping then it's easier to disable OP moderation (on the client side) than make a new thread.

>>106367356
>that's an implementation detail
It's not, it's a fundamental design-stage question that decides what is possible or not possible to build on top of the overlay, if you can't reliably prove someone is OP then you can't physically implement your idea about OP moderation for example.
>Do you think mods own the site then
Whoever owns the infrastructures own the site yes, they can also choose to delegate their power to the mods which the current owner of 4chan choose to do, so the mods do own the site, just stating a fact not saying it's a desirable state of things since they often abuse their power or make shitty choices like banning you if you post anime on /g/.
If you want to change this through an overlay fine but why give this power to OPs which could abuse it the same way? It also goes against anonimity because you recognize OP as someone special, which implies identity, in the current system mods don't partecipate in discussion so it's not a problem. How can you do impartial moderation if you have a stake in the thread and are part of the discussion?
Would be better to use the overlay so that you can vote on what posts or threads get hidden, in other words collective moderation.
>It would depend on the OP, and also you get to toggle collapsing per-thread if you don't like what the OP is doing
If this system only benefits OPs, then only OPs would use it why should non OP use it exactly?

>>106367672
>Would be better to use the overlay so that you can vote on what posts or threads get hidden, in other words collective moderation.
I think it would be better if instead of hiding, users could vote to mark the thread or post as 'LOW QUALITY'. If you click on the warning it would show all votes and the reasons for it submited by users.

In any case we need to prevent coordinated attacks or someone spamming votes with different IPs

>>106367672
>It's not, it's a fundamental design-stage question
What I meant when I said "implementation detail" is that I don't think there are any technical problems here. 4chan allows you to delete your own posts and there are no issues like other anons deleting your posts. Since the extension would consist of both client side and server side code, there'd be effectively no difference between it and 4chan itself, in this regard. It's just another server.
>but why give this power to OPs which could abuse it the same way
because you can disable OP's moderation powers with the press of a button, or leave the thread and make a better one if you want. Bad OP? Okay, do one of the above. Good OP? Great, you have a better thread. Everyone has power.
>It also goes against anonymity
Only a little, no more than tripcodes or even the ability to post under a name. The only way OP is special is that he made the thread, nothing else.
>If this system only benefits OPs
No, the point is that it could improve thread quality.
>Would be better to use the overlay so that you can vote on what posts or threads get hidden, in other words collective moderation.
I think this is a terrible idea. Upvotes on reddit are essentially a form of (soft) collective moderation, and what you're proposing is very similar. It would stop being 4chan.

>>106367831
Could be something like this: user can give a rating from 0 to 1 (or 0 to 10 or whatever) where 0 is lowest quality and 1 is highest quality, then the server runs an aggregation algorithm on the ratings given by all the users and comes up with a constantly updated quality rating for the thread, on the client side you can configure the threshold over which threads/posts get hidden based to your taste or willingness to deal with shitposts that particular day.
>in any case we need to prevent coordinated attacks or someone spamming votes with different IPs
Probably impossible to prevent completely a determined attacker, but could be ameliorated with an aggregation algorithm that gives more weight to non-recent data (to counter sudden spikes of ratings), basically the inverse of the exponential moving average algos used in trading.

>>106367841
>4chan allows you to delete your own posts and there are no issues like other anons deleting your posts.
>Since the extension would consist of both client side and server side code, there'd be effectively no difference between it and 4chan itself, in this regard. It's just another server.
Whenever you post you're sending a password to the 4chan server, and when you delete you're also sending the same password to the 4chan server so it can verify.
But in your proposed system you need to send a post submission message to one 4chan server and then you also need to send a message to the overlay server saying basically "I am OP of the thread with this thread number", but you can only send this message after 4chan actually submits the thread or you can't know the thread number in advance, so there is a small delay, what if an attacker sets up a scraper such that whenever a thread is made they send a message to the overlay server saying that they are OP? Or even worse what if I spam messages for every future post number?
The problem is that you can't communicate with 4chan servers.
>it could improve thread quality
Quality is subjective, what you're saying is that OP should decide what quality is, essentially that they should have this power instead of mods.
I'd argue they would do an even worse job than mods because they are involved with the discussion and can't be impartial.
>Upvotes on reddit
Collective moderation is not the same as upvotes, moderation is all about deciding which posts are harmful to discussion, while upvotes are all about giving an absolute value to posts (it's a quantification), the objective is totally different.
Notice than in my proposal >>106368010 I said that the quality rating should be between 0 and 1 so it's a percentage not an absolute value.

>>106368058
>Whenever you post you're sending a password to the 4chan server, and when you delete you're also sending the same password to the 4chan server so it can verify
I see. I didn't know how it worked.
You can hash the post subject, message and filename and send it to the server together with OP's password. The post submit button will wait for an okay from the server.
>can't be impartial
No one is ever impartial. I don't see a big difference between OP and mods. He made the thread, so what?
>moderation is all about deciding which posts are harmful to discussion
it will still be abused and conflated with an upvote. It would kill individuality. I prefer a benevolent dictator over democracy here because there'd be many dictators to choose from.

>>106366919 (OP)
>What if, instead of moving to an altchan, we create an extension ON TOP of 4chan?
That's antisemitic. Don't do it.

>>106366919 (OP)
Can it be used to filter /pol/tards and get back old /g/?
I'm all for it if that's the case.

just stop being shitposting lunatics

>>106366919 (OP)
Just make an altchan.
1. Range ban Israel
2. Range ban India
3. Run posts through a small locally hosted model which evaluates if a post is on topic, simple pass/fail. Repeated fail submissions = ban

That solves everything except on-topic bots and well poisoning efforts, which mods can handle more easily with the reduced amount of work.

>>106366939
For G that would be nice but in POL most of it is already there and 3/4 threads are usually 1PBTID

The web is long gone at this point. All major sites had a dramatic decrease in quality in just the past year alone. There is no stopping the train anymore.

Kill all trannies problem solved

I don't like to shit on ideas but I dislike this because one Anon's effort post is another anons shitpost.

I LIKE how 4chan pisses off annoying retards by spamming and derailing threads made by trannies, Indians, Redditors, woke tards and other shitters who ruin the internet.
I enjoy anime but not when faggots are posting anime girls on every post and typing like an anime girl. That's Troon behavior and I very much think that's shitposting.

OP, you have your heart in the right place, but 4chan is no "one size fits all" solution. You come here because other websites have abusive moderation and content curation - because they use an algorithm to control what information is shown to you.
You come here because your tolerance for rougher conversations is higher because you value raw facts over smug condescending Redditor speak.

Why would you make an add on that removes the one fucking thing of value on 4chan and add the bullshit from twitter and Reddit as an add-on???

Seriously explain your reasoning. Either you're tired of coming here because you want more like minded people to hang around with - which is fine, but that's what discord is for. OR you learn to tolerate a few annoying posts. Don't make an add on for yourself that frankly nobody wants.

>>106367356
>Is any change whatsoever automatically equivalent to turning 4chan into reddit?
yes
fuck off with your "changes" newfag

>>106366919 (OP)
>>106367370
>>106367416
I thought about that before and realized it will give way more power to OP, so like the anon said: a discussion between OP and others rather than OP only starting the discussion. And that will create duplicated threads: ones with "good" OPs and others with "bad" ones.

So instead, staying with the idea of making OP responsible for his thread, we can give him soft power, like the ability to hide instead of delete/ban, so people aligned with his judgment and the opposers can use the thread.

And ideally, make it a p2p system: Instead of a website we have a tracker of threads, and people can start a thread and attach it to a tracker. Threads can be seeded to keep them alive, instead of hosted on a centralized server. That's Cheap to host and provides a proper way for people to vote for good threads instead of upvotes.

Users can have an identity if desired by signing posts with their private key using some asymmetric authentication method.

>>106367474
>>106367551
>OP being a faggot
>duplicated threads
A p2p system where people vote for good threads by seeding will prevent this, because bad threads will die while only the seeded will live. Like I described here >>106369564
But of course, that won't work with just an extension on top of 4chan.

>>106367672
>collective moderation.
>recreating plebbit
The core of chans is anonymity and the equality of posts, laying their value in their content, not how many fags upvoot it, or which fag posted it.

>>106368058
>moderation is all about deciding which posts are harmful to discussion, while upvotes are all about giving an absolute value to posts (it's a quantification)
Thus you say: Your type of moderation is deciding am absolute value of harmfulness. the same as upvotes.

>>106368348
>I prefer a benevolent dictator over democracy here because there'd be many dictators to choose from.
Aren't you describing modern democracy?

>>106368689
>3. Run posts through a small locally hosted model which evaluates if a post is on topic, simple pass/fail. Repeated fail submissions = ban
Which decent model you recommend that won't require a supercomputer to run?

>>106366919 (OP)
start implementing simple IQ tests to filter out the retards and spammers
jannies aren't based enough to do that though

You improve 4chan by removing trannies, leftists, faggots, and weeaboos.

Many of the best threads have nothing to do with the OP post at all. Other anons pile in on some subject or point and the thread hits critical mass. I'm saying OPs are overrated.

>>106366919 (OP)
I'm glad you guys don't get to have things your way, you end up ruining every space that gets created.
>Give OPs soft moderation power in their own threads.
Reddit
>calls for more moderation, even to go as bringing MONEY into the equation
Reddit
>allow people to upload files other than images globally
what a fucking disaster that would be, just use a hosting site and put a link
>ban! BAN BAN! CENSOR CENSOR CENSOR! BEHAVE THE WAY I WANT YOU TO
kys

>>106370000
>>106370044
As usual, gets tell the truth

>>106366919 (OP)
>/pol/turds seething above
OP this means you're on a good track, don't forget to ban all politics from your overlay, remember that it's the only way to get a quality board of any kind.

>>106369269
shitposting is a sacred activity and crafting quality shitposts is an art
you are just another iteration of the SJWs

>>106369269
>>106370098
I don't think this would turn it into reddit. Reddit doesn't have what I described at all. It has upvotes. What does it have to do with giving OPs soft mod powers? Is any moderation at all also reddit?

>>106370044
>Many of the best threads have nothing to do with the OP post at all
I agree, but I don't think this means that OPs are overrated. Sometimes the planets align and a thread becomes great. Many other times though it slides off into incoherent noise or a flamewar.

>>106370325
>sage

I had a funny ban some months ago (mistakenly). It wasn't in the rules either. I didn't write it down, but it had something to do with off-site traffic, like a thread was created to synchronize and link to something else.

Anyway, given this is a honeypot, I don't think any kind of metadata thing would be viewed as ok by our jannies or hiro.

>>106370325
Then we're on the same side you stupid fucking cunt. I don't have any filters on and I enjoy shitposters shitposting in my threads, off topic or whatever.

>>106370381
I already said
>One Anon's effort post is another anons shitpost

Imagine expending effort into a post only for it to get deleted by some cunt op who thought you were trolling. What the fuck, that would piss me off.
So an anime poster just deleted every post that isn't doing Erotic roleplaying as an anime girl.
Or a a Redditor deleted every post with an anime reaction image.

We're here to post on the same terms using agreed upon rules. Mods leave us the fuck alone except for actual rule breaking. An OP is just a faggot who makes a thread and should have no authority.

>>106370325
I'm saying it again, because I know you're illiterate.
Nowhere in my post did I say that I was against shitposting you STUPID FUCKING TRANNY FAGGOT.
I was saying that OPs shit app idea would encourage morons to over moderate their threads by assuming someone's genuine post was shitposting.

Fuck you retard.

Any solution with crowdsourced stuff like this needs to consider how they're going to address spammers/schizos poisoning the data. When thinking through how something like crowdsourced tags are going to work, assume someone like the Sharty is actively trying to sabotage it.

>>106370454
hell stegenography is against the rules as is "Gibberish text" i.e. encrypted something.

>>106370491
>Mods leave us the fuck alone
This is not always true, mods with a grudge will target specific threads or even specific posters, mod power abuse is a real problem.
Still better than leaving moderation to OPs though I agree with you on that.
I still think collective moderation would be the best thing to experiment with, if we really really want to experiment with OPs having more power we could give OP's vote more weight but it shouldn't be only their call.

>>106370512
>I enjoy anime but not when faggots are posting anime girls on every post and typing like an anime girl. That's Troon behavior and I very much think that's shitposting.
>b-but i like shitposting doe!!!
you're illiterate, a newfag, and probably underage too. maybe even brown
don't talk to me

>>106370491
>Imagine expending effort into a post only for it to get deleted by some cunt op who thought you were trolling.
That's why collapsing is better than deleting. That way everyone can see for themselves if OP is a cunt or not.
Also there are definitely some cunt mods out there as well. My thread which I linked to in the OP got nuked just because some particular idiot posted porn 2 times. That's bullshit.
>Mods leave us the fuck alone
Not always. And I don't see why mods would be any more infallible than us. They're also just some faggots. Why do they get the power to moderate and we don't? If I could moderate my own thread I wouldn't remove any posts insulting me. Itt there are maybe just one or two posts that I would collapse, like the one saying kill all trannies. That's it.

>>106370668
I think you're shitposting like a faggot right now, you and your tranime spammers

But I never said I wanted your posts banned or removed. You belong here with the rest of the chuds.

>>106370578
Mod abuse is a consequence but it's still *fine* for the most part.
Just avoid /a/ /tg/ and /co/ if you don't want micropenis mods messing with your post

>>106371345
you don't get to tell me if i belong here or not; i was shitposting on 4chan long before you were born
you're like a brown kind wandering into somebody's house and telling the owner
>hey, you CAN live here :)
just go back where you came from, insect

>>106366919 (OP)
What about an extension that integrates altchans with 4chan?
Like, you access 4chan, but you also see altchan posts with a different border in the catalog
Something like federated websites but through the client

>>106370454
Here >>106368348 I described one possible way of implementing it. There's no metadata in the post. The only way for mods to see this is if they install and use the extension themselves.

>>106371441
Man you really are illiterate

>>106371455
What you're describing doesn't need to be a website, it's more like a client, in other words a multi-chan application, but it's still client-only.
The proposals of OP moderation or collective moderation either needs a client-server or p2p.

>>106371499
Can't it be implemented purely on the client?
Imagine this: OP uses a tripcode and just replies "bad post" or something to the posts he wants to hide, again using the tripcode. Client interprets these messages as commands and hides them together with the posts they intend to collapse.
This could be a little annoying for everyone else and jannies may break it but it would be a client only solution.

>>106368620
We can use it to filter communist golems who think that they know best

>>106366939
I have been here since 2006 and this is a great idea. Would bring a lot of people back.

>>106367356
One thing I remember in the old days was word filtering of PENIS. It would be cool if OP had the option to pre-set word filters in his thread to make it a more exploratory and fun experience for replyfags.

>>106366919 (OP)
nah, fuck you

>>106371574
One option would be something like desudesutalk, which creates a kind of messaging system for boards using information embedded within images. Sadly, this would require each client-interacting post to contain an image. Perhaps useful for starting posts, not so much for replies.

>>106366919 (OP)
No need for a central server. It's a single point of failure and privacy concern. For your collapse idea Op could quote and reply "collapse" and the extension could detect it and collapse.

>>106371574
>>106371763
That could work, but the jank.. No reason not to do it properly. It's a central point of failure but so is 4chan. Not a privacy concern since you'll be able to audit the client side code, which shouldn't be very long.

>>106371799
>>106371741
Images would be janky I agree, but text only solution would not be that bad. There are 300 posts most per thread and just checking the ones with matching tripcode with OP should be trivially easy for a computer.
Adding a secondary communication system for one hide command is way more complicated.

>>106371858
It's still jank. I also don't want to be affected by the whims of jannies. Also, this system would give us much more freedom in how we could extend 4chan. OP collapsing threads is just one of many options.
I agree it's much easier though. Maybe something for v0.1.

>>106371929
How are we going to get your extension OP? And when will you do it?

>>106372184
I'll try to implement an uncontroversial improvement like tagging, and do it with a server as a proof of concept. Then maybe we'll see what to do next.

Expect another post about 4.5chan within a fortnight with a 50% chance.

Thank you for your input gentlemen. I think it'd be very cool if we manage to add some stuff on top of 4chan.
Remember, the .5 signifies backward compatibility with our beloved mongolian basket weaving forum.

Hope it has 4chanX compatibility

>>106370098
>>Give OPs soft moderation power in their own threads.
>Reddit
100% this. OP is probably just a /vrg/ autist who's super salty about not having moderation powers in his retarded non-ephemeral generals (which ruined the website btw) and he's trying to cope super hard and make an entire extensions just to satisfy his lust for power. You can tell because it's the first thing he brought up, and 4chan has not given thread creators moderation powers because of the freedom of the site. It would ruin the spirit of 4chan and make everything worse. What a shit idea.

>>106373494
extension*

>>106367356
>Interesting, why do you think visible sages would improve threads?
- newfags don't know what sage is
- remind anons to sage bad threads
- it would be cool to know who sages
- it's oldschool

>>106366919 (OP)
What you're looking for is Reddit/HN. Maybe Slacker News if you're worried about censorship and want anime girls sprinkled in (but that's a non-issue for strictly technical discussions).

>>106366939
>1. Give OPs soft moderation power in their own threads. After creating a thread, the OP will be able to collapse (but not completely hide) any reply to his thread. Such replies will automatically appear collapsed to anyone else using the extension.
Fuck no people are already having thread wars and holding court over their less than worthless general threads. This only serves to entrench already extant terrible behavior.

>>106366919 (OP)
Did Gab do something like that with their browser extension? I wonder whatever happened to that...

>>106369269
>I LIKE retards spamming and derailing threads
>I LIKE that reasonable discussion is often not possible because of needless chaos
sheeit

>>106374938
Probably the type of person that thinks
>retardation
>bad
>retardation (but supporting my group)
>WAOOW

>C-f logo
>0 results
I'll make the logo. Let's call it 4chan-y.

>>106375755
The reason I think 4.5chan is a good name is because it signifies a backward compatible feature update according to semantic versioning. Moving to another site would be a breaking change (so to speak) and require a bump to the major version, i.e. the 4 in "4chan".

>>106371441
I think you just triggered his autism with you not being vehemently on his japanese reaction face posting side
>>106366919 (OP)
because spammers and other choice losers swarming the thread creation role for their power trips aren't bad enough as it is. this is the oldest idea ever in imageboard history (spanning about a decade) and I feel it's only ever proposed by the same faggots that do OPs.

Nigger

>>106377553
Downvote.

Get collapsed, idiot.