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Previous thread: >>106354125

SQUEAK
>>106369191
mogged by xue

>>106369220
>sque-ACK!
total XFECES death

any anons really understand the distinction between niri, hyprland and swaywm?
what are good reasons to pick any of these?
I feel like going with sway purely because muh stability

>>106369295
>t.

>>106356761
Omarchy is really easy and straightforward. I brought some stuff from it to My main arch machine. Like fuzzy package search which is goated.

>>106369174 (OP)
Does Xfce have aero snap yet?

Haven't tried debian with the new APT 3.0 yet, is it finally good?

>>106369308
Hyprland is the best if you care about features like HDR and proper screen capture / window capture.
Niri is some gimmicky scrolling window manager.
Sway is as you've said very stable but it lacks features.

is there any difference between ext4 and ntfs? i want to switch to linux but i have over 10tb of data and i don't want to convert

>>106370495
There's a good chance once you get into Linux you'll never want to go back to Windows. Just do it.
And you don't have to convert, but you should.

>>106369530
>you need to install the epub plugin
No shit sherlock. Zathura cant handle epubs properly with their epub plugin.

>>106370495
You won't have any issues using an ntfs drive for your data on Linux. ext4 is just significantly faster and has additional features.
But if you're using a drive just for passively storing shit, you should use btrfs since it has a mechanism to protect you from disk failure and data rot. It's basically the new standard on Linux.

>>106370419
>but it lacks features
what features does it lack that most anons would give a fuck about?

>>106369308
surface level shit from what I've seen, Sway is majority auto-tiling and is apparently the most stable being also made by the same devs of the wlroots library that other shit's even built on
Hyprland is also majority auto-tiling unless you manually adjust tiles or force stacking on everything, and probably has a long future of support and integration because of the popularity of easy ricing
only know it from the wiki, but Niri is also auto-tiling, just with an infinite horizontal plane, if you're specifically into that
if you have a single monitor, consider Newm, being another tiler but with both vertical and horizontal scrolling along half/quarter segments

that (indian?) "Archcraft" guy makes decent demo videos of certain WMs/Composers to see some of their behavior

>>106370563
>btrfs
>it has a mechanism to protect you from disk failure and data rot
Only with multiple drives, otherwise all you get is a report that your data is fucked. And only the mirror option is reliable. Also, when a drive kicks the bucket, the filesystem becomes unmountable until you resolve the situation or force mount it with a specific option, leading to a wonderful surprise if you reboot before taking action. :^) It's designed by fucktards.

How could I bind playerctl to use both function and the numbers on my keyboard? Is there a way to do that while using niri and Arch?

>>106370780
A report when your data is fucked is still better than not knowing at all, like with ext4. And I think not mounting a filesystem with fucked data as writeable per default is reasonable.

>>106370727
thanks anon-kun, solid post.
haven't really fucked with the advanced shit in hyprland and sway.
mainly used hyprland with a minimal arch install to run mpv/watch animu without installing a DE like gnome and it does the job surprisingly well.

>>106370957
The entire purpose of a RAID1-like storage system is availability in the event of a failure. btrfs throws that out the window with gusto. It's fucking stupid, the whole thing is a dog's breakfast.
The ONLY reason to use btrfs is single-drive setups with snapshots, i.e. OS/boot drives. For everything else you are infinitely better off with ZFS. And if you don't care about snapshots and prefer something that's in the kernel, the latest major version of XFS is fine too.

>>106370780
>Only with multiple drives
There's nothing stopping you from running other data profiles on a single drive.
>all you get is a report that your data is fucked
Knowing which files are damaged by name is very useful.
>only the mirror option is reliable
Has been false for years. The current parity RAID implementation is half-ass and it doesn't have acceptable uptime for most enterprise cases, but it doesn't lose data and is good enough for home servers.
>leading to a wonderful surprise if you reboot before taking action
Also false for years.

>>106370780
>when a drive kicks the bucket, the filesystem becomes unmountable
Because btrfs takes integrity constraints seriously. I'm always shocked when retards blame it for locking the filesystem when their own hardware fucked up.

>>106371094
Motherfucker if half of my RAID1 is still fine, that bitch better mount without contortions.

>>106371101
You can set degraded in the mount options and it'll keep running like that indefinitely since like 4 years ago. If you didn't read the manual and test device removal before deployment you have no place to complain.

>>106371094
Drive failure is an expected condition in a RAID setup. If true, a single drive failure taking out the entire array being not only the default, but the only possible configuration, is not "hardware fucking up", it's a very significant design limitation.

is this real

>>106371309
someone spent way too much time making that stupid shareable pic for it to be real or even relevant if parts are real. someone probably thought ipv4 hrt looks like they could be talking about hormones because their mind is terminally occupied with transgender bogeywomen

>>106371346
some of you niggas really are autistic huh

>>106370566
It is a direct clone of i3 so with very few exceptions they don't implement anything else (for example: proper window screen capture support).

>>106371309
If only this were true. I'd love to go IPv6 only but it's not practical outside of Google or Facebook data center environment.

You will naturally need a NAT64 proxy but even if you have this some stuff won't work properly with DNS64 and IPv6 and insists on native IPv4 (Steam being a prominent example).

>>106371386
>(for example: proper window screen capture support).
uh fuck. that's a big enough feature that i googled it and it seems like you can do it with some 3rd party utils.

>>106371197
>it's a very significant design limitation
It's not a design limitation at all. Set discard in the mount options and it'll keep running if one of the drives die. Even when they had the single degraded mount policy there were patches to disable it.

The entire point of btrfs is controlling online data loss risk. You already have lvm for dumb block level RAID1. This is something else. If you didn't understand this before deployment, it's your fault. Nobody sticks you with btrfs d=raid1 by default.

>>106371601
1000% this. If my two-disk RAID1 fucks up then you bet your ass I want it to scream loudly in my face instead of continuing to quietly run as if nothing were wrong.

Just got a 200 dollar computer for my 4 yo daughter and I'm putting ubuntu server on it. I'm recreating a modern version of the experience I had with my first family computer, a Tandy 1000 where you would first boot into dos and then use the command line to open programs.
I installed ubuntu server LTS, Xorg server, and Brave browser. Only hangup now is getting the audio working. I installed pulseaudio, it sees the audio device, but when I go to play sound I hear nothing with no error messages.
Her only usecase at the moment is when she wants to watch youtube videos, I'll also put on a drawing program (GIMP or Krita or Tuxpaint probably) and she can use my wacom tablet. She (only) watches educational videos and it really improves her english so I'm happy to do it. Plus I would rather get her on a computer experience like I had growing up consisting of a keyboard and a terminal, instead of the detail-hiding non-technical experience so many kids have using ipads or similar nowadays.

>>106371737
Check devices with alsamixer and aplay -L

>>106371737
i told you, retard, let the kid go play outside. wtf is this bullshit about putting a fucking 4 yr old in front of a screen, fucking nigger-tier behavior

>>106371737
>I'm recreating a modern version of the experience I had with my first family computer
>you would first boot into dos and then use the command line to open programs
Sounds fucking awful. Just install Bazzite or Mint, or give her a $50-$200 game console. Also this >>106371755

>>106371748
Thanks! I did this and the devices all seemed correct. Just to see what would happen I rebooted and, lo and behold, it all works smoothly now. Thanks for the pointers.

>>106371780
>>106371755
> give her a $50-$200 game console.
It's not for playing games. Also game consoles are for niggers.
>. wtf is this bullshit about putting a fucking 4 yr old in front of a screen
But there's niggers outside.

>>106371842
Sometimes the device can be muted in alsamixer or can be some dummy device, which is why I said to check but I guess in this case it just wanted a restart for whatever reason since you'd only just installed it.

Flatpak qBittorrent opens and starts seeding files but I can't see the graphic interface, I get this message:
>QDBusTrayIcon encountered a D-Bus error: QDBusError("org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown", "The name is not activatable")
I found this similar error, it seems it is a flatpak issue:
https://github.com/input-leap/input-leap/issues/2079
Has anyone had a similar problem before? I'm also on fedora+gnome like that guy

>mpv suddenly starts choking, taking 5 seconds to load a 2 second clip
>something about "enumerating hardware devices"
>replace my old-as-dust VGA LCD with a 4K Dellsplay
>works like clockwork

>>106371737
Sounds nice, I used to love DOS as a kid
>She (only) watches educational videos and it really improves her english so I'm happy to do it
4 is way too young for youtube imo, if you have the time teach her, it'll be way more valuable than whatever slop the algorithm throws her way

>>106372177
It's a GNOME issue.

>>106370727
The one in this video is..? Doesn't look like regular hyprland, you cant "see everything" from that one so to say and like stack all the windows like a painting or a block building

Okay, so I'm retarded but I have had some miniscule Linux experience thanks to tweaking shit for old games on my Steam Deck. I think SteamOS is based on Arch, right? So if I use Endeavour, it should be pretty similar to that, shouldn't it?

>>106372836
No. The closest thing you have to SteamOS on desktops would be Bazzite. Or Aurora, Bluefin, Kinoite, Silverblue, VanillaOS, etc. as non-gaming distros.
SteamOS is based on Arch, but it's set up as an immutable OS and a lot of things are done for you automatically. It's fundamentally different to what a regular Arch/Endeavour experience is that the fact it's Arch-based doesn't matter at all.
EndeavourOS is just Arch with a GUI installer, and at the end of the day it's exclusively made for people who are "power users". If you have little to no experience with Linux, or you're not interested in becoming a system administrator for your own computer, then you don't want Arch/Endeavour/Cachy.

>>106372357
Querying EDID on old monitors is slow and can halt the entire display server (Xorg).

>>106373300
You can probably use a manually configured modeline like they did back in the day before Xorg gained the ability to do that itself.

does anyone know a tutorial on how to safely upgrade from ubuntu 20.04? can i just type do-release-upgrade or could it break something?

>>106373358
It failed on me like 4/5 times (granted it was probably the PPAs, I didn't know what I was doing back then)

>>106373358
The only way to safely upgrade Ubuntu is to do a clean install. At best what you can do is uninstall anything installed through 3rd party PPAs and disable 3rd party PPAs before trying to update.
Next time fall for the atomic/immutable distro meme and you'll be fine even if you're a decade behind in updates.

>>106372913
Okay, thanks for the heads up.

>>106372177
>>106372506
Thanks, fixed it

I've heard of partition alignment from this thread before, and if I recall you're supposed to start your first partition at 1MB or something. However, when I read the arch install wiki and try out the best-effort partitioning via archinstall, I'm getting conflicting results.

Here it says that partitioning should start at the 1MB mark:
>https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Advanced_Format#Partition_alignment
Yet in pic related partitioning is starting at the 2MB mark. What gives?

Also the above links mentions that -each- partition should start at 1MB marks, so does that mean there should be 1MB of space between the boot partition and the root partition? Or should root start immediately after boot?

>>106373358
It has never failed for me. Don't worry.

>>106374103
it's fine. idk why but gdisk (gptfdisk) always does 2048 start and recommends 2048 boundaries.
your setup follows that recommendation and it probably doesn't matter at all whether it's 1024 or 2048 (2099200 is divisible by both)

>>106374183
I figured I'd ask so I could understand what "right" should look like.
I plan on ultimately setting up encryption using the TPM method for dm-crypt with LUKS, but since that doesn't seem to be part of archinstall I figure I'll need to partition first, then use arch install.

Is it really even worth encryption using TPM for encryption in your professional opinions, /g/?

>>106373396
>probably the PPAs
You're supposed to ppa-purge before major dist-upgrades:
https://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/trusty/man1/ppa-purge.1.html

>>106374253
you'll need to do dm-crypt/luks before filesystems as the filesystems layer on top.
I don't see a benefit to tpm based encryption like bitlocker, if I wanted whole system encryption I would just use a password

>>106372593
sorry, went to sleep
that one is Newm but was abandoned as 0.3 two years ago, and picked up as Newm-atha with the last activity being an update to the AUR six months ago

Why isn't there any way to integrate OCR/image recognition into Gnome Files like there is on MacOS Finder?

>>106374103
2048*512=1024^2=1MiB
Those are 512B drive LBAs not KiB. Check (End-Start)*512/1024^3 against Size.
>does that mean there should be 1MB of space between the boot partition and the root partition? Or should root start immediately after boot?
It's counted in terms of drive address space. Each partition has to start on a multiple of 2048 to be 1MiB aligned in 512B addresses.

>>106374795
GNOME devs might be looking at felony charges if they uploaded all the pics on their computer to Apple for categorization and OCR.

i built my own build system in bash. it includes a prototype function that shits out template files

What does df do under the hood exactly?
Would constantly executing it once every few seconds under conky for system monitoring purposes shorten ssd life?

>>106375353
https://github.com/coreutils/coreutils/blob/master/src/df.c

>>106370246
As of 2023:
Settings > Window Manager Tweaks, open the Accessibility tab and check Automatically tile windows when moving towards the screen edge.

>>106369220
A mouse. A fucking mouse. Their logo is a fucking mouse. They could've put anything there and they chose a fucking mouse.

>>106375388
that mouse is fuckable. unlike your mom.

>>106375353
why do you need to query the disk usage every few seconds?

>>106375388
waow (based based based)
>>106375394
why post slop? seriously

>>106375418
>mad his mom smells like fish

>>106375183
Thanks anon. This helped.

>>106375367
It seems to be calling something called get_fs_usage which is not part of coreutils, what is it exactly?
Regardless most relevant part seems to be here:
...
bv->total = fsu->fsu_blocks;
bv->available = fsu->fsu_bavail;
bv->available_to_root = fsu->fsu_bfree;
...
if (known_value (bv->total) && known_value (bv->available_to_root))
{
bv->used = bv->total - bv->available_to_root;
bv->negate_used = (bv->total < bv->available_to_root);
...

It is reading block values to do this calculation but I still have no clue if/how this affects disk life?
>>106375406
I am going to run a program that will dump some huge files to the disk while working.
I just want to see how much disk space it uses while working.

>>106375492
>dump some huge files to the disk
that will shorten ssd life more than df.
Also, instead of putting it into conky, you could just run it in another terminal only while you actually use your program.

>>106375542
>that will shorten ssd life more than df.
I mean yeah but it is not something I am constantly doing.
I wanted to learn if leaving that off there would have any effect in disk life long term. Easily seeing the info is useful.
The AI slop answer I got is no since apparently kernel is caching that info, but who knows if it is hallucinating?
>you could just run it in another terminal only while you actually use your program.
That could be the case if I was just checking disk use but I am also looking at memory and CPU use.
Conky is just much better at giving all of these at one place.

>>106370495

yes

maybe move stuffs with usb external hd with FAT32 filesystem

>>106375651
>but I am also looking at memory and CPU use.
ok, now this really is a job for btop
>Conky is just much better at giving all of these at one place.
Maybe, but it will always be active if you just put it in the config I guess. Unless you only start it while you need it.
>apparently kernel is caching that info
sounds extremely plausible.
And even if not, reading from a ssd isn't really damaging it, it's writing operations.
I'd be more worried about creating needless load to the system.

>Arch distros literally unusable
>Opensuse is literally gay
Fedora or NixOS it is. Maybe Gentoo if I git gud.

>>106375689
>btop
Looks cool. Might install this.
>sounds extremely plausible.
I think so too but don't know for sure without checking.
Finally figured that get_fs_usage comes from fsusage.c of coreutils (Apparently, the copy of coreutils source code sitting on my computer was incomplete so I failed to grep it before.)
But now I am redirected to check how statvfs works...
>And even if not, reading from a ssd isn't really damaging it, it's writing operations.
That's reassuring
>I'd be more worried about creating needless load to the system.
It's load is very little.
This is not a laptop, so I don't care that much about idle use neither.

I've been trying to install mint and it's been stuck at "Downloading packages (0:0 remaining) since yesterday. I can't copy the log via ctrl-c, but from what I can tell several things were reoccuring in the log:
>Network manager connected/disconnected all the time (but it was already after downloading the packages, my understanding is?)
screensaver kept vomiting error in >sys.excepthook and original exception was in quick succession
>Some ( 91053, 91063 and probably more) Sources were not found when it attempted to remove them
The last log after which it stopped doing anything at all is
>rkit daemon[1936]: supervising 2 threads of 2 processes of 1 users
Help my stupid windows user ass please. How do I cancel installation painlessly and fix these problems?

Why does "$" break terminal?
Even with quotation marks I couldn't sha256sum that file until renaming.
The filename in "No such file or directory" error also omitted that char.
Is there a way to escape this?

Is there an up-to-date electron app for Google Docs Offline?

>>106375876
stat '$anon'
File: $anon
Size: 0 Blocks: 0 IO Block: 4096 regular empty file
Device: 0,33 Inode: 21 Links: 1
Access: (0644/-rw-r--r--) Uid: ( 1000/ anon) Gid: ( 1000/ anon)
Access: 2025-08-25 09:08:10.185905940 +0200
Modify: 2025-08-25 09:08:10.185905940 +0200
Change: 2025-08-25 09:08:10.185905940 +0200
Birth: 2025-08-25 09:08:10.185905940 +0200

>>106370495
Linux can read ntfs, Windows can't read ext

>>106371842
>But there's niggers outside.
niggers are outside because all the fuckers like you are cooped up inside, too terrified to exist in your own city. pussy.

>>106375896
Still doesn't work on my machine, even with exact stat command.
Is this a filesystem thing?
Is yours ext4 too?

>>106375900
Linux CAN read and write ntfs.
There are odd regressions and it is not ideal due to the fact that linux ntfs support is based REG guesswork. But it still works.
Windows just refuses to support ext.

>>106375896
>>106375980
Oh fuck I was using double quotes. It works now.
Why does " vs ' make a difference here though?

>>106375764
If you think Arch is unusable, then Gentoo and NixOS will be even worse.

>>106375790
>can't copy the log via ctrl-c
Ctrl+Shift+C (you can change this to Ctrl+C in most terminals, if you want)

>>106375876
Try escaping it
\$

It's used for variables in bash. Could be the reason why your terminal is acting up.

>>106376013
Single quotes are used for raw strings, while double quotes support using variables/expressions. If you do "$dick_size" on your machine it would output "1inch", meanwhile '$dick_size' would just output '$dick_size'.

>>106376032
I understand now.
>>106376016
That also works.
Thanks.

>>106370495
Linux can read/write to NTFS partitions (it works on my Ubuntu machine at least)

Therefore you can keep all your data on NTFS drives if you want. Just use Ext4 for the partition you're installing Linux on. Or you can use Btrfs but I don't know anything about that because I'm an Ext4 pleb. It just works for me.

>>106362921
>switch to something not debian based, not immutable/atomic, and not made by trannies (that excludes anything debian based, nixOS, void, and anything made by redhat)
mkay
such as?

>>106375876
It's not that it breaks, the symbols is commonly used as a sigil; by bash and other applications.
In picture; echo assumes we are referring to variable, until we specify by using quotation marks.

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>>106376252
It's just an archfag troll trying to convince everyone to switch to arch. If you're switching from Windows to Linux just use Aurora (or Bazzite of you're a manchild) and you'll be fine.

>>106376451
>It's just an archfag troll trying to convince everyone to switch to arch.
That seemed to be the conclusion I reached when I "googled" it but I couldn't be FUCKED with Arch. I am not a techie.
>Aurora homepage and logo uses trannie colours

>>106370495
Yes there is a difference. If you use the NTFS3 driver, Linux can read and write NTFS as well as do permissions as it should, but there are severe limitations. For example, if the NTFS drive needs chkdsk you're fucked on Linux. You need to use Windows to repair the drive.

>>106376493
>Aurora homepage and logo uses trannie colours
imagine being this obsessed with faggots that you see them everywhere. do you not go outside when it rains because you're afraid you'll see a rainbow?

Is it better to run self-hosted stuff through a docker/podman container or should you always try to use stuff from your package manager whenever possible? E.g nginx , mariadb , jellyfin

>>106376032
>strings
There are no strings. Quotes are argument value wrappers to deal with the fact someone decided using spaces as delimiters was wise. Everything between a pair of quotes is treated as a single argument to whatever command is being used, and '' disables expansion within the pair, unlike "".

>>106375902
>niggers are outside because all the fuckers like you are cooped up inside, too terrified to exist in your own city. pussy.
well founded fear desu

>>106377199
>should you always try to use stuff from your package manager whenever possible
Absolutely not. You should always containerize stuff. Your pm is there to make your OS and hardware work, while user-end software or your server software should always be in docker/podman, distrobox, flatpak/snap/appimage, VMs, etc. The only possible exception to this are very resource constrained environments where you have no other choice.

>>106376367
Could be anything, including the controller, cable, drive, backplane if you have one, or a memory error with the driver/kernel.

may be a dumb question but what handles the font rendering if I go the tiling WM route?
not sure if a DE typically handles this part/makes fonts look nice

I wonder how many arch pcs have hostnames of denshi from parroting that video verbatim

>>106377307
Fontconfig, the frontends in DEs access it too.

For some reason videos are really laggy and choppy in firefox on fedora while the flatpak version of firefox doesnt have this issue. I have RPMfusion set up.
Guess I'll just use flatpak firefox and uninstall the fedora package.

>>106377307
If you're talking about font configuration, usually its a gtk/qt thing that you would need to configure.

>>106377426
>using distribution maintainer versions of software
This has always been a mistake for user software. Just use Flatpaks and Appimages for everything to avoid retardation.

What in the ever loving fuck was the guy who made Easy Effects thinking when he decided to add a shortcut to every single FUCKING EFFECT?
I can erase them from the menu but I can't do anything about it doing the needful whenever I try to search something holy shit what the fuck have niggers actually gone insane this time?

>>106377999
Sounds like a kde issue
Is there a way to stop the menu from loading gschema.xml files? because based on what i can see thats what all of those menu entries are. You could also just manually remove them but i have no idea what side effects that could cause
On my system they're all in /usr/share/glib-2.0/schemas and start with com.github.wwmm.easyeffects

>>106378099
I don't want to mess too much with it, if I removed them it'd just regenerate and if I fucked with how KDE loads stuff it'd probably mess other packages.
I've never seen this thing before, I think I'll just give JamesDSP a try instead.

>>106378099
>Sounds like a kde issue
This is not happening on my KDE machines.

>>106377999
>>106378155
What version of KDE Plasma and EasyEffects are you using?

>>106378164
Plasma 6.3.6, Easy Effects 7.2.3.

>>106378180
Well, I haven't updated in over a month so I'm not on the latest versions, but Plasma 6.4.3 and EasyEffects 7.2.5 do not cause this to happen on my end.
I am using the Flatpak version of EasyEffects which might be the reason I don't have these random shortcuts.

>>106378281
>Flatpak
That's most likely it, I'll try JamesDSP instead but if I don't like it i'll give the flatpak a try.

>>106369174 (OP)
just switched to endeavour os, what am i in for? and any recs on how to remove the endeavour branding+bloat besides just "reisntall arch"?.

Also, i've noticed that most things are generally worse compared to windows. I have to configure touchpad gestures to be as minimally as functional as windows (when were touchpads invented? im pretty sure they are older than a lot of distros) i have to fix my ethernet-through-usbc which works seemlessly on windows, and i also have to fix the hybrid gpu switching and cpu switching AND hybernation/sleep cycles so the os doesn't assrape my battery the moment i unplug it and take it outside, why do ppl online love posting that "x thing worked so much better than windows!" when most of the time it's probably not even true or even linux's fault.

>>106378296
oh and i don't care about distros, if (you) know of a distro that does these things for me without having to fiddle too much do let me know, I'm open to suggestions, even if it means having to install Ebussy's very own gtk ridden gnome.

>>106378296
Endeavour is just Arch with a handheld install. Whatever you'd do in Arch you would do in Endeavour.

>>106378296
>install pajeet arch
>doesnt want pajeet branding and bloat
I don't get it, if you don't want bloat (which is subjective) just install Arch so you can decide what's bloat and what's not.

>>106378337
what i meant with reinstall arch is to remove endeavour and install arch to remove the bloat, but i don't wanna do that since im dualbooting with windows and managing partitions with a cli sounds like an easy way to wipe all my data accidentally, maybe when im done transfering my files to endeavour ill just go to arch.

>>106378296
>I have to configure touchpad gestures to be as minimally as functional as windows
Could be your DE, or the fact that Arch is just expecting it's users to set up stuff manually. Yes, even EndeavourOS still expects you to set things up yourself since the only place where it differs from Arch is having a GUI installer.

>>106378505
it's not really about setting it up myself, its the fact that the landscape for this shit is dire. thousands of random applets that work on hacky ways, code injection alternatives for x11, for some reason total negative attitutudes towards making it happen natively on kde, and the suppossed "improve support" that wayland provides for these things not being capitalized sufficiently at all besides just making your swipes run terminal code. it is objectively much worse implemented than windows, regardless of whether or not you need to configure it urself.

I've been updating my current Debian install for 2 releases now and things break between releases. This time I had to troubleshoot backlight issues and VPN server issues. I also noticed that there's a bunch of leftover files as well. I don't like this. Of course I have peace of mind for the duration of a release, but sometimes I wonder if it's worth it.

The thing is, I live 1000km away from my server and it's not really viable to just do a clean reinstall. My admin on site (my mother) types 10 words/min, so neither is that viable.

>>106378658
Next time you're around, install a basic system as hypervisor and run all your usual server shit in a virtual machine you can manage remotely. Until then, suck it up.

so how does one install steam on two different user accounts while still using the same install directory on a different SSD mounted that isn't the OS drive?
I've tried groups, which didn't work
Im currently using bindfs portal magic that I've heard may or may not explode me and my brother's save files according to trawling through reddit threads of this exact problem

>>106378874
Aren't your save files backed up on steams servers? Or do you think Steam is using your data so they can dominate you and enslave you to their will?

>>106378874
You can create a group and add both users to that group. Then you have to a chown the directory to that group and add the sticky group bit recursively to that directory so that neither user can change group ownership with chmod -R g+s
Though i dont know if that will work or not or if steam is going to complain.

>>106369174 (OP)
put down mint today and installed open mandriva with xfce pure happiness for now...

>>106378874
Why not just make a steam user and run steam in a chroot as the Steam user?

I do this on my non-multilib Gentoo install to run Steam in an Arch chroot since Steam still requires 32-bit support and my system deliberately lacks that on purpose. This setup should work for multiple users too though, and shouldn't explode since everything is running as the Steam user.

>>106378979
i tried that and steam just fucking froze when i used the 2nd user to try and add /home/games/ (which is a mounted ssd)
while it worked fine on my user account.
so i made an empty folder /home/user2/magicfolder/ and bindfs'd it to /home/games/ which seemingly works

>>106379020
Maybe steam have fixed amount of subfolders needed for it to work(because of library) so if you are one out it dies.

I really liked this thing when I first tried it while I was building my own "distro", I decided to use it as my "distro"'s package manager. It's from NetBSD and it advertises itself as this package manager that's kinda like portage because it fetches the source code of target package and builds and installs it to pre-defined prefix, such as /opt/pkg - which becomes kinda like a second root filesystem in the sense that it's the root for pkgsrc packages. Then I just added /opt/pkg/sbin and /opt/pkg/bin to the front of my path and it works as expected. It's all fine and dandy but for example the X11 packages seem partially broken at least on linux. It lacks some of the xf86-input/xf86-video driver packages and so on, overall desktop on linux is non-functional at least in VM (QEMU/KVM with vmware graphics driver, xf86-video-vmware and xf86-input-vmmouse), keyboard won't work and mouse doesn't work. I suspect this is because it's originally meant for NetBSD and NetBSD then somehow differs wildly from linux so some things are broken....

It would've been nice, but I guess it's not really good for desktop packages.

>>106379076
Typo on my part, I didn't mean to say it advertises itself as something like portage. I meant to say it advertises itself as a source-based package manager that supposedly supports wide variety of platforms, including linux.

Now that neofetch is dead what am I supposed to use?

>>106379104
fastfetch is the fork everyone's seemingly using. It's basically the same.

>>106379076
>>It would've been nice, but I guess it's not really good for desktop packages.
And to correct this: it's not nice for desktop packages on linux, that is, I don't know what's the experience like on NetBSD side. Obviously I could just make my own set of X11 related packages for it and try again, but that's not my goal, I want to delegate the maintaining of packages to some third party.

>>106376016
Their sites always work, everything is always up. Why would they be unusable?

>>106378374
i have windows and archive partitions on my the same ssd where i'm installing this, i'm not gonna create partitions using a cli app bc im likely to just accidentally wipe my data.

>>106379020
The only other thing you could do then is run steam as a separate user and have both users run steam as that user.

God people have been complaining for years about LibreOffice being slow as shit on Wayland. WHY HAVEN'T THESE FUCKERS FIXED IT ALREADY? Why do I need to run it in xwayland? THE SHITTY XWAYLAND MODE ALSO MOVES MY TASKBAR SHORTCUT WHENEVER I LAUNCH IT. LOOK AT THIS SHIT.

>>106379113
fastfetch
though hyfetch exists if you are of the type to suck cocks, in a literal sense.

>>106379171
>using libreoffice instead of editing ur files online

>>106379188
I want to do shit locally without JavaScript bloat.

>>106379179
hytroon.

>>106379231
that was the joke
since hyfetch's only "feature" is relevant if you like penis

>>106379225
The JavaScript bloat supposedly works offline not that I use Google Docs and rarely open LibreOffice either to be honest.

In the current year webapps work offline if the developers put the time in. There's no helping the bloat though, even LibreOffice is insanely bloated and takes forever to compile it because of all of its dependencies. Something about Office suites just invites bloat and code smell. I think it's the large scope of the fucking thing.

>>106379324
>In the current year webapps work offline
You can't even open local files with Google Docs Offline kek. They have to be uploaded to your Google Drive first.

>>106379342
They probably convert them on the server to the Google format because doing that in JavaScript is presumably slow (although I bet with things like WASM now they could make that fast and offline too but Google Docs is legacy code at this point and predates things like WASM)

>>106379360
Google Docs is also shite because it can't leverage locally-installed fonts. I also don't believe you can use MS Office Online offline, so I'm left with:
>LibreOffice (COMPLETE SHIT ON WAYLAND)
>FreeOffice (actually seems decent, but I'll have to use it more)
>OnlyOffice (SHITE that takes forever to load, forever to save, and doesn't even have a fucking live word counter)
>WPS Office (CCP spyware)

>>106379225
>JavaScript
>bloat
I really love it when retards complain about programming languages for no real reason at all, despite not knowing anything about software development or the programming languages they were convinced to hate.

>>106379395
So you're telling me that JavaScript is faster than C? You're telling me that LibreOffice DOESN'T use less than 200MB of RAM upon loading a document? You're telling me that a Chromium webapp whose only purpose is to view docs.google.com DOESN'T use 500+MB of RAM just viewing an empty document?

>>106379319
Open Mandriva doesn't even have hytroon in repos thank god for that...

>>106379440
>you're telling me that JavaScript is faster than C
I'm telling you that JavaScript being slower than C is completely unnoticeable, yes.
Performance of websites isn't bad because of JS, it's bad because HTML rendering is slow and a lot of logic is behind API calls which introduce latency compared to locally run software.
And don't pretend that all desktop software is written in C. Most of it is using C++, Python and XML, effectively being the same shit as a web app.
>LibreOffice DOESN'T use less than 200MB of RAM upon loading a document?
It uses 280MB on my machine.
>use 500+MB of RAM just viewing an empty document
So does your OS. A browser is just a platform, and a web app doesn't automatically have to use Electron/Chrome and "waste 500MB RAM"

You're pretending you're still using a 2008 computer.

>>106375764
>>106379121
Try artix.

>>106379534
>You're pretending you're still using a 2008 computer.
The moment you say optimisation doesn't matter, you get Windows.

I want software written as competently as it used to be. Is that too much to ask for?

Moving my main laptop to Arch is probably going to end up taking longer than I think.

Haven't got my shit together on
WiFi
If shit that plugs into the SD adapter (I need microsds for 3DS) will just work
If night light in sway/tiling wm is going to be as good as Winshit
If fonts are going to be fucked or not

I really need to spend more time on fucking with Arch on my NUC first

>Using XFCE with high-end hardware (5070ti)
>Okay ricing this looks hard I may as well look into KDE
>Install KDE, get it looking nice pretty quick, cool, stuff takes an extra beat to happen but I'll live
>Notice greeter has sprouted KDE (X11) and KDE (Wayland) options
>Click KDE (Wayland) out of curiosity
>Monitor goes black
>Reboot
>Monitor stays black
>No greeter nothing beyond systemd startup
>Fuuuck
>Work on it for an hour before safemode -> sudo apt remove *kde*
>XFCE/X comes back
Wayland is scary, I'm honestly curious about Hyprland but that was about the worst impression Wayland could have made

>>106377426
>>106377597
If you were to run a Debian-based distro then you could install the Firefox deb which comes from Mozilla's own repo. Alas. I guess the Flatpak is the best thing available on Fedora.

>>106379440
what is the problem officer ?

>>106379006
running steam as its own user has its own drawbacks, like not working tray, and have fun if you ever want to migrate to wayland.

>brave
Jesus christ this board is shit.

>>106379796
Sorry xer/xir but Firecunt is selling your data.

>>106379813
Prove it.

>>106379823
Learn to use google xir.
https://adguard.com/en/blog/mozilla-deletes-promise-to-never-sell-your-data.html

>>106379813
I use librewolf which I compile myself.

>>106379828
Your conjecture is not evidence.

>>106379847
Jesus Christ.
If they removed that statement it's implied they are going to do it. Are you one of those people who when they see a nigger going towards them with a knife they look at nigger and expect him to do nothing to you instead grabbing for gun ?

>>106379861
They removed that statement because they already were doing it.
Btw, all the other browsers do it, too. Get fucked, anon.

>>106379884
>Never happened.
>If it did what are you going to do about it ?
>Get fucked chud.
>It's normal.

Literally reciting the meme.

>>106376501
Oh. Huh.

>>106369174 (OP)
When watching a video on mpv, fullscreen'd, the sceen edge gestures/keyboard shortcuts for "Overview" and "Grid" on KDE do not work, I have to get out of fullscreen or close the video player. Is this normal behavior? doesn't happen when watching a video somewhere else, like in a browser.
>>106378296
You can unselect the branding during installation. You didn't just smash the "Next" button during installation, right anon? Also, not to sound rude but Arch (and its derivatives) is a DIY distribution, if you want stuff to work "ootb" then install something else. I personally never had any issues like those with my system.
>>106379554
Based

>>106379893
It all runs off him like water off a raincoat.

>>106379629
>adding 3rd party repositories to your system
This is also a bad idea, unless we're specifically talking about flatpak repos.

>>106379987
>Is this normal behavior?
No. I just tried it out and this doesn't happen on my device.

>>106379385
You can host a nextcloud server and run collabora or whatever their libreoffice plugin is called

>>106380330
>libreoffice is shit
>you should run a libreoffice server instead
???

>>106379791
He doesnt need to do what the anon says about running a chroot, he can just switch to a different user with sudo -u and -E for --preserve-env which would keep all the env variables mainly DISPLAY WAYLAND_DISPLAY DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS

>>106379823
https://spyware.neocities.org/articles/firefox

>>106380365
I've been there and it was such a pain I gave up on it in the end.

>>106380345
You wont have to deal with the wayland issue because itll be running in a browser

>>106380387
I used to do it for awhile with wine and lutris following the archwiki guide
https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Wine#Running_Wine_under_a_separate_user_account
But then i switched to using the lutris flatpak instead

>>106380386
Why doesn't this retard explain what that request is? And if he doesn't even know how the New Tab thing works, how can he claim it's making requests or is at all malicious? Their whole Google Analytics paragraph is also entirely about GA being used on Mozilla websites, but then misleadingly positioning this as GA being used ACROSS Firefox as a fucking browser.

>>106380424
He's using an mitm to scan for requests

>>106380461
And the documentation is where---in his arse?

>>106380424
>Why doesn't this retard explain what that request is?
Because then it wouldn't sound as scary

>em dash on windows
Alt+0151
>em dash on linux
Ctrl+Shift+U+2401+Enter

What fucking moron came up with this and how can I replace it with the obviously more efficient system?

>>106380494
What do you mean?

>>106380532
— <- this one?

>>106380558
So he used an mitm; but where are the logs?

>>106380532
Alt Gr + -

>>106380572
>>106380532
Even better:
>enable compose key (in my case Right Alt)
>RightAlt+---
It's just two keys—four keypresses, but two keys. It's even easier than on Windows.

>>106380582
Doesnt look like there's any. You're free to replicate his setup and see for yourself since it says what program he used.

>>106380623
>You're free to replicate his setup and see for yourself
The burden of proving his schizophrenic delusions is not on me

>>106380622
RAlt+Shift+m, then --- for me

>>106379987
>is a DIY distribution
already said this in another post but the absolute dogshit implementation of gestures on kde is not a "diy" issue, its a shitty code issue, and likely the same for things like ethernet-through-usbc issues.

For example, ure not expected to make your printer driver from scratch.

And yeah i did just press next a bunch of times, what was the alternative? find a connected device to look up what each package does? they don't tell you which package is a core util vs their fucking logo package and must rely on randos online fro that info.

>>106380623
>Capture traffic
>Start firefox
>See shit, but not what he was writing about.
Not too surprising, given that site it 4 years old at least.

>>106380674
How bad was it on a fresh profile?

>>106380708
I am not going to go to such lengths.

>>106380652
>prove it.
>i-it doesnt count!
>no i will not check for myself
>s-schizophrenic delusions!
Massive cope. Make sure you didnt set toolkit.telemetry.enabled to true in about:config

>>106380752
>i-it doesnt count!
Yes, it doesn't count if it hasn't been fucking proven.
>no i will not check for myself
You're the one attempting the fucking proselytism; YOU check it. What a stupid cunt.

>>106380773
It HAS been proven. You just refuse to accept the results.

>>106380815
>It HAS been proven
You can't just say "UMMM IT'S ACTUALLY SPYWARE" without providing the fucking logs that demonstrate this to be case! A random fucking retard making a bogus claim without providing a cow's cunt of evidence isn't proof. SHOW ME THE FUCKING LOGS. OTHERWISE, THIS SCHIZO HASN'T A CLUE WHAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT AND IS BEING DELIBERATELY FACETIOUS.

>>106380532
>be limited to ASCII
vs
>have access to the entire Unicode
I don't know, one of these is clearly superior.

>>106380867
That's precisely the problem: you have to run your hands back and forth across the keyboard several times

>>106380839
>shows proof
>explains how it was done
>NOOOO IT DOESNT COUNT UNLESS I SEE THE LOGS NO I WONT DO IT MYSELF HE HAS NO IDEA WHAT HES TALKING ABOUT
How much is mozilla paying you?

>>106380887
What? You're holding two keys with your left hand (one of your hands is occupied, equivalent to Windows), then you click U with your right hand. The only actual difference is having to click U. And even so, from this position you have access to all your numbers without having to move your arms at all, unless you're a numpad user.

>>106380320
>>adding 3rd party repositories to your system
>This is also a bad idea
Why? You think it's a bad idea to add Mozilla's official repo to your system? I don't see why that would be a bad idea. It means you get Firefox updates as soon as Mozilla releases them, unlike if you rely on your distro's default repos.

Of course you should be careful and don't just add ANY random repo to your system. But I think it's fine to add official and reputable third party repos. I have quite a few on my system.

>>106380891
>shows proof
What is the definition of proof to you? HOW CAN IT BE PROOF WITHOUT LOGS? If you do not answer this, I will assume you are Indian. And if you're going to try and guilt trip ME into proving YOUR point, why don't you put you take the same initiative you demand of me and provide the evidence to the world?

Explain how proof can be shown without logs. Go.

>>106380938
>Move left hand to Ctrl+Shift
>Move right hand to U
>Move both hands to the keys you need to press for your specific character
>Finally, move right hand to enter
Meanwhile on Windows:
>Move left hand to Alt
>Move right hand to Numpad
Done. Though the compose key solution is even easier than the Windows one.

>>106380773
>>106380839
Everything has to be proven for you on a silverspoon.
What spoiled little retard

>>106380952
Ignore them.
It's flatpak marketing, trying to black goat repositories in general.

Hi /g/, i have an old thinkpad which I want to use to watch movies and tv shows and as a backup linux laptop. I want some sort of media centre linux distro or just app (i have cachyOS now) which will allow me to easily download and watch all the movies and tv shows I want. I would connect a wireless keyboard with a trackpad and going to pirate bay, opening the magnet link in transmission, waiting for the torrent to download and double clicking to open in VLC is just too much work for my lazy ass. Any recs? It's appreciated.

>>106380891
>shows proof
What is the definition of proof to you? HOW CAN IT BE PROOF WITHOUT LOGS? If you do not answer this, I will assume you are Indian. And if you're going to try and guilt trip ME into proving YOUR point, why don't you take the same initiative you demand of me and provide the evidence to the world?

Explain how proof can be shown without logs. Go.

>>106381039
>Everything has to be proven for you on a silverspoon
You're an Indian. Fuck off.

>>106381063
Did the indian man sleep with your mother?

>>106380952
You increase the risk of dependency hell and risk breaking your system after a point release upgrade (or a regular system update on rolling release distros).
Debian and Ubuntu based distros consistently breaking after updating to the next point release is a well known meme for a reason.
An average user adding a 3rd party PPA to their current Ubuntu 24 or Debian 13 system is likely to have issues upgrading to Ubuntu 26 and Debian 14 in two years, risking either random breakage or the system just refusing to update. At that point you're just wasting time being your own distro maintainer when you could've been a normal person using Flatpak or AppImage.

>>106381035
Why are you making up the most convoluted scenario for Linux?
>Move left hand to ctrl+shift
>Move right hand to U
>Move right hand to numpad
There's literally just 1 extra step involved. You can press space or enter, so your hands don't need to move at all after moving to the numpad.
In any case, you're pretty much complaining about a feature almost no person in the world even uses or even knows about.

>>106381155
>You increase the risk of dependency hell and risk breaking your system after a point release upgrade (or a regular system update on rolling release distros).
>Debian and Ubuntu based distros consistently breaking after updating to the next point release is a well known meme for a reason.
>An average user adding a 3rd party PPA to their current Ubuntu 24 or Debian 13 system is likely to have issues upgrading to Ubuntu 26 and Debian 14 in two years, risking either random breakage or the system just refusing to update. At that point you're just wasting time being your own distro maintainer when you could've been a normal person using Flatpak or AppImage.
My system hasn't broken but admittedly I haven't upgraded Ubuntu yet. I'm still on 22 LTS because I'm too lazy to upgrade to 24. At some point I will.

Anyway I'm not talking about PPAs, I'm talking about deb repos, e.g. from Mozilla, or from Microsoft, or from Docker, etc. I recently installed Docker from their deb repo. I don't think they offer it as a Flatpak, and maybe it wouldn't even be possible, because Docker needs access to lots of stuff on your system.

>>106381190
>maybe it wouldn't even be possible, because Docker needs access to lots of stuff on your system.
That's why people are using Podman nowadays. It's almost entirely docker-compatible, without requiring root access.

>>106381155
Managing your system is wasting time..
Swallowing marketing and accepting what ever they claim as normalcy.
Sounds like the sad life of apple user, who has to buy the new product each year (just like your full updates lol).

>>106381155
>move right hand to numpad
Not only is that more manual movement, but many of these codes require the alphabet as well. You end up yanking your hands across the keyboard, and frankly there is no need to defend this when Linux already has a better solution in the form of compose keys.

>The packaged version requires a recent 64 bit Intel/AMD Linux with glibc, and common libraries like libwayland-client and systemd
Will this not work on Artix? Why would a program need systemd specifically?

>>106380670
what was the alternative?
Reading. During installation, there's a part where you select which software to install. Endeavour branding (themes, wallpapers, etc) is an option you can (un)select. It looks something like:
> [x] Base software
> [x] EOS epic themes
> [x] Furryfox, VLC, Solitaire
I didn't know one could get filtered by a GUI installer of all things.
>>106380320
Well that's weird. I'm just trying KDE for the first time so I was a bit confused.
>>106381339
What program?

>>106381348
>What program?
Anki

>>106372436
>Sounds nice, I used to love DOS as a kid
Yep, starting with DOS gave me a good mental model for how computers work even when windowed desktops became the default. The machine I set up for my daughter boots directly into a terminal just like DOS did.

>it'll be way more valuable than whatever slop the algorithm throws her way
I only give her playlists that I have personally curated, so I've selected all the videos she's seen and there's nothing algo suggested.

>>106371748
Thanks again, this trick came in handy while I was debugging something during our first session when I gifted her the computer.

>>106381357
Works for me. Also, seems like the AUR is down again.

>>106381252
>Managing your system is wasting time..
yes

>>106381418
Thanks for testing it. I'm considering switching to Artix, just checking stuff out for now.
They probably just meant that it was tested on a machine with systemd, not that it's a strict requirement. I don't see how the init system matters for a GUI clicking simulator

>>106381460
I've been using Artix for a few years, it's nice. Most programs that do require an init daemon have a package for it available for the different init systems (e.g. 'networkmanager' will require 'networkmanager-openrc'). I use Openrc, but I also tested Dinit for a bit, but I couldn't get 'colord' to work so I switched back to Openrc. Otherwise Artix is just Arch, with all its ups and downs.

>>106379146
You can print basically any information about your drives as you want, like lsblk -o NAME,LABEL,UUID,SIZE,TYPE,FSTYPE,MOUNTPOINT it's impossible to accidentally erase it, and even if you do end up I don't know, nuking the boot partition, you'd still be able to mount the drive on linux.

>>106381357
>glibc, and common libraries like libwayland-client
Practically all qt-apps, say wayland-something, chances are you already have it installed, just like glibc is the default for most.

>>106381673
Doubtful this is some type of simple game

Is the only option for Android emulation (arm, not x86) on Linux Waydroid?

just installed arch but it just gave me a black screen and a line that says [root@user]#

why isn't user in green? it's just gray. also what do i do now?

>>106382121
Choose do you read or install beginner friendly arch distro.

the aur and arch repos are being ddosed and attacked with malware by indians hired by redhat to try to scare people off it and push them to fedora once the windows EOS happens. either that or autistic trannies with a hate boner for white men.

How do I create a file that contains a different image (the result of running a command) when accessed at different times?

I can set a Cron job to run the same command at set intervals and write to the same file. But it seems like there should be a way, on Unix, to run the command at the time the file is accessed and return the results.

>>106382243
Devuan too

>>106382121
you're supposed to create a user and home directory
useradd -m -G wheel username
passwd username
and uncomment %wheel ALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL with EDITOR=nano visudo

>>106382299
lol why was this post deleted?

Anyone knows if the highlighted part in lsblk -p output is correct? Podman creates that mount when the openrc service starts on boot. I don't like that it modifies my mounts but I guess this is what it's supposed to do?

>>106382299
>>106382602
Someone probably checked the link.

>>106382299
>>106382602

damn, I think I did in fact brick my decade-old 120G SSD somehow
for next time, would it fuck with the boot if I just left a raw partition between the "protective MBR" part and for-work parts? like:
0 - 2048 gpt
2048 - 10000 raw
10000 - 20000 efi
20000 - 30000 btrfs

>>106382855
Do you plan to boot it on a pre-UEFI toaster? If not you don't need the gap at all.

>>106379791
It works fine as long as the user in the chroot has permission to read the Wayland socket. The tray works too if you expose DBus to the chroot.

>>106382650
>don't like that it modifies my mounts
Why do you even bother checking that stuff?
Do you also check the mounts on your TV? Router? Phone?

I just upgrade all Arch packages and my system didn't break!

>>106382650
Isn't that just a bind mount? It's harmless.

>>106383205
haha yeah woo

>>106383205
running -Syu is more stressful than updating your mobo bios during a thunderstorm

>>106379076
>I suspect this is because it's originally meant for NetBSD and NetBSD then somehow differs wildly from linux so some things are broken....
That's most likely the case. I run NetBSD on a laptop and I've never experienced any problems like your describing. It's too bad that it didn't work out for you this time.

>>106383251
Oh please. I've been on Arch for two years straight now and not once did it shit the bed after a system update.

>>106383340
sure thing

>>106383384
nta but I've had arch running for years no problems. you have to read the news they post every few months when an update requires intervention. that's about it. honestly reading a news RSS once every few months is hard for retards so it's fine I understand if you can't handle it

>>106383587
I hate how they don't tell you it requires manual intervention when updating, though

>>106383340
Same here, been running it since around 2016 and the only issue I remember was the nvidia driver fucking up dvi support years ago, I just switched to hdmi until the next update, didn't even have to downgrade the package

Hello friends, i want to distrohop to an autism distro and i cant decide between arch and nixos
Both are appealing to my tism for different reasons, is nix worth the trouble or should i keep it simple?

>>106383701
I'm sure you can add a pacman pre hook to check the rss feed for updates

>>106380386
kek
https://spyware.neocities.org/articles/brave

Linux is for fucking retards. retards who like to waste time.
if NixOS is the best you can offer in terms of usability and the closest to the ease-of-use of Windows but most peddle Arch or some other retarded shit, you have mental problems

picrel is your linux army
>i stopped playing games in the 2000's
>now i waste my time with massive retardation by jumping from distro to distro
>but never contribute a line of code because i'm too retarded because i'm doing the things above
https://youtu.be/KTpidjU_gHc?t=485

>>106384110
you like to hate watch people talk about linux?
just... go away?

>>106384266
>hate watch
i guess that's what you could call: informing yourself without having to actually go through the retardation.

i might actually continue doing it because now i know it pisses off one Troonix out there somewhere

Uh oh, melty!

is there any distro with newer packages than arch + arch testing? idk if gentoo unmask everything would work, plus it would probably take so long to compile on a laptop and beak so often that by the time i've finished updating and fixing everything i would be behind someone on arch who can just pacman -Syu without breaking stuff or compiling

I got 4chanX on firefox. It works for a while, but after refreshing a page a few times it stops working. Only way I can get it to work again is if I close firefox then open it up again. Any thing i can do to get 4chanX working all the time with out having to close then open up firefox every time?

>$ bwrap --bind / / \
> --dev /dev \
> --proc /proc \
> --unsetenv DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS \
> --unshare-all \
> --new-session \
> "/bin/sh"
>bwrap: loopback: Failed RTM_NEWADDR: Operation not permitted

>$ unshare -n /bin/sh
>unshare: unshare failed: Operation not permitted

>$unshare -n -r /bin/sh
>unshare: write failed /proc/self/uid_map: Operation not permitted

>$ cat /proc/sys/kernel/unprivileged_userns_clone
>1


how can I easily block an app from accessing the internet on kubuntu 24.04, without using sudo?

no iptables/different users if possible, I want it to run it as similas as the original executable as possible, no firejail because it's unsafe

>>106384935
You should be using the fork 4chanXT if you aren't. Also using Violentmonkey as your script manager.

>>106369174 (OP)
Dumbass question: Who governs fram sync? As in, say I have a screen that has a 60Hz refresh rate and I start a YouTube video that is 60fps. Is there a system that makes sure that the video gets delayed after I click on play so that the video aligns with the refresh rate or is it left entirety to the hardware?

>>106385139
Thanks!

>>106384083
>>106362438 for no AUR
or yay/informant from AUR

>>106370495
you can convert ntfs to btrfs directly in-place without needing to move everything off and back on again
>>106376501
ntfs works fine as a temporary measure, but i wouldn't use it for permanent storage in linux, as it incurs performance, feature, and convenience limitations. one important one being what you mentioned, if at any point the volume is uncleanly dismounted, you will need to run chkdsk from windows before mounting it (r/w) again. note that this doesn't mean you need windows installed, a windows install dvd running in a VM is enough, but it's an extra step you don't need to do with any other filesystem

>>106370780
no, you can mount a degraded btrfs raid, it just doesn't do that by default, because that would be a stupid default to have.
if you want to configure your system to allow degraded mounts and set up some other system to warn the administrator that shit's degraded, then go ahead. but silently allowing degraded mounts is a dumb idea

>>106385618
>that would be a stupid default to have.
mdraid does it, lvm I think does it, ZFS does it, btrfs is the broken one.

>>106385683
that's a windows-tier argument.
btrfs won't perform writes that have less redundancy than the volume is configured for with default mount options. this is a sane default imo. it will mount read-only with default options or read-write with the 'degraded' mount option. you can use it how you like. like just leave degraded in there so it always mounts read-write if you have set up some other way to keep track of if it's degraded or not

>>106385731
>like just leave degraded in there so it always mounts
So it eventually shits itself, unlike other storage systems? No thank you.

>>106385758
so you're just trolling, got it.

>>106385587
>you can convert ntfs to btrfs directly in-place without needing to move everything off and back on again
How does that work?

>>106386268
it even keeps the original ntfs volume image as a file inside the btrfs volume until you delete or restore it (basically a copy-on-write snapshot). btrfs is really flexible with regards to where things are stored physically, so it's metadata is put somewhere unused and existing files are mapped from their physical location into btrfs metadata without moving anything

https://github.com/maharmstone/ntfs2btrfs

>>106386319
Wouldn't that depend on the drive already being less than 50% full? Or is it like, making a new partition and moving everything over one by one, resizing as needed? I don't understand this tricknology

>>106386748
no, it doesn't even move or copy the files

wow this is pretty neat

>>106387064
sorry wrong photo

Do you even need avahi-daemon? I have no printer or care to share files between systems. I keep seeing local systems communicating every few seconds.

>>106384937
unshare -c -n --

>>106383274
I wish it had worked, because those packages in pkgsrc are all supposedly ported to linux (they do compile and link and install fine). But I understand it's too much work to maintain such compatibility.

btrfs seems wrong here unless i can be convinced compression would be useful. ext4 is probably the move but my understanding is this specific usecase is where xfs shines.

>>106388255
btrfs compression i can go without, but subvolumes, snapshots, and checksums less so

>>106387186
i don't use it for anything. it's just a network auto-discovery protocol. go ahead and disable it. you'll know soon enough if you needed it

>>106382104
You can always just use the emulator built into Android Studio.

>>106388255
Btrfs is better than ext4 because of checksums.
COW is just a really nice bonus, while snapshots are barely even used by people so it's not a passive benefit like error correction and COW.

>>106382104
Waydroid is an x86 android emulator with an experimental arm combatability layer. Pretty sure bliss os also has the same thing

>>106388458
>experimental arm combatability layer
I can't find any reference to this outside of some 3rd party script which installs some libraries for arm compatibility.
So, Waydroid doesn't have it then.

>>106387186
You only need it for stuff that want to autodiscover communicate between two pcs such as kde connect, localsend, moonlight/sunshine. Mostly peer to peer programs i guess.

>>106388489
From what i remember its just an option you tick in the android settings to enable arm emulation. Mileage may vary.
Depending on your usecase you might be better off just getting a raspberry pi and running an android image on it.

>>106383205
99.9% of the time arch doesn't break from an update dumb nigger it's just that a package is doing something unexpected because of new changes or refactoring, everything is still working as intended. the meme that arch breaks is retarded, if people didn't use install scripts theyd probably never have a problem

Why does Aurora recommend using unofficial VLC flatpak? Shouldn't you stick to official software?

>>106369174 (OP)
I switched to KeepassXC and started using Rhythmbox and it just works. Linux is so nice, I just switch from shit (sometimes pirated or paid) proprietary application to free FOSS alternative and it just works, is free, easier to use, lighter, faster, and most of my applications work in any Linux distro ever even if I would change to other distro. Also I was supprised after broken shit Windows "language/input support" how easy it was just set Korean and it worked. I was so confused that OS can even have language support without all that Windows and macOS shit trash that never works.

>>106388790
Probably because VLC doesn't provide binaries themselves for Linux and Aurora being immutable you're not supposed to modify the base system though it's possible. The alternative would be compiling it yourself which I would count as a poweruser thing.

>>106388413
>while snapshots are barely even used by people
i don't know how commonly used they are, i can only say that they should be commonly used. there's programs like snapper and timeshift that automate regular snapshots to make it a "passive benefit". it's one of those things that doesn't do anything until you need it, by which time it'll be too late if you don't already have it. though it can also have an effect on how you use your computer even normally, like it enables me to do risky operations without needing to worry about making a backup or quadruple checking things because i know that if something happens, i have a snapshot of the data in question to restore from if need be already

How does umu work? After you install wine, you can just double click any exe in a file explorer and instantly run the program; is this possible with umu/Proton-GE?

>>106388851
How do you know if an unofficial flatpak is trustworthy?Just trust in Flathub's vetting process? The VLC package is almost 2 years old at this point so I guess someone would've probably notice if there was something weird about it by now.

>>106388947
>Just trust in Flathub's vetting process?
Pretty much. Though some flatpaks are directly maintained by the upstream devs like OBS

>>106388947
Generally yes, you just trust them. Flathub has had a good track record so far. You can also check how the flatpak was built, for example for VLC: https://github.com/flathub/org.videolan.VLC/blob/master/org.videolan.VLC.yaml

>>106388535
You're thinking of Android x86. Waydroid doesn't have this option at all.

>>106388858
I completely agree, it's just that most people don't use snapshots or even backups of any kind. The only time when people use backups is when they're defaulted to it, for example Android devices often back up media using the Photos app without people even knowing about this until they move to a new phone and their photos are all there.

>>106388947
>just trust
Yes, that's how it works. Even native packages aren't coming from official devs in 99% of cases and are just built and patched by distribution maintainers. Unless you manually do code reviews and compile everything from scratch, you need to put your trust into someone at some point. The good thing with FOSS is that everything is transparent, so even if there is a malicious actor they're identified pretty quickly (AUR malware was taken down within 12-36 hours afaik)

>>106389174
>The only time when people use backups is when they're defaulted to it
well ok, are were talking about average computer user or average home desktop linux user? i know the average computer user doesn't use snapshots. i know apple has their time machine thing, but i know nothing about it besides it's name, but even apple doesn't have a large desktop/laptop share

>>106389196
>average computer user or average home desktop linux user?
Both.

>>106389174
Ok, so for unofficial flatpaks I am trusting the Flathub jannies, and if it's on Flathub I can be reasonably sure the VLC binary was built according to this link >>106389119 ?

>>106389237
Yes

Programs downloaded through the terminal with a package manager like apt or zypper, are they flatpak or not?
t. want flatpakked firefoxx

>>106389567
Those are binaries from the respective distro's repositories. You get flatpaks mainly from the centralized repo Flathub.

>>106389579
a gotcha. i'll just grab from flathub then. i heard flatpakked firefox is safer since it is more containerized.

>>106389567
"flatpak" itself acts as a package manager. You can just do "flatpak install whatever". apt isn't a universal package manager, so it doesn't handle flatpaks.

speaking of package managers,
what's the closest equivalent to "portablizing" shit like on wangblows?
I expect to blow my install trying everything out

>>106389766
winget
chocolatey

>>106389766
>>106389771
oh nvm you are asking the opposite.. uh.. keep your /home on a separate filesystem?
use flatpak?

>>106389766
appimages
or flatpak --user and copying the .var/app and .local/share/flatpak folders across pcs

>>106389766
Appimages. There's plenty of projects which provide official appimages (DuckStation considers it the default/standard package for the app), and there's also a bunch of FOSS unofficially distributed as Appimages.

>>106389119
Not sure how true this is, but I think I heard Flathub jannies don't really check updates after approving one of these for the first time, so the maintainer afterward could insert a malicious build recipe? The build system is automated right? So to be 100% sure you'd want to check these files before updating for unofficial flatpaks.

>>106389822
Each time a build recipe changes it needs a review.

>>106387609
>$ unshare -c -n /bin/sh
>unshare: write failed /proc/self/uid_map: Operation not permitted

>>106390031
SELinux?

>>106390075
no, apparmor maybe, kubuntu 24.04

New thread:
>>106390318

>>106390031
>write failed /proc/self/uid_map: Operation not permitted
$ sysctl kernel.unprivileged_userns_clone
kernel.unprivileged_userns_clone = 1

>>106391069
>>106390031
If it's zero you'll get:
$ sudo sysctl kernel.unprivileged_userns_clone=0
kernel.unprivileged_userns_clone = 0
unshare -c -n /bin/sh
unshare: unshare failed: Operation not permitted


In which case:
$ sudo sysctl -w kernel.unprivileged_userns_clone=1

>>106369174 (OP)
I have been using mint for a while now, but I suddenly felt the urge to go back to distro hopping.
Has the meta changed since 2023?