Thread 106521493

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Previous: >>106496430

konnichiwa dude!

as usual, lazy unemployed faggots couldn't even bake their own general

>>106520025
kek, it sure is coming

>back from vacation
>its my birthday
>caregiving my dad
>he's having another baby boomer tantrum
>already know once I log in, I'm going to get the most inane bullshit from my boss.
>failed all my lifts at the gym
>just started the day and im about ready to kms
happy birthday to me! :D

>>106521663
you will rise above

>>106521563
You're gonna win so hard you'll be tired of winning, just another 500bn to openai and another 500 million jeets

>>106521672
man most days im straight tweaking at the dumbest shit. starting to not give a fuck about anything. what's the point of not becoming a criminal if there's no repercussions here its already impossible to get a job or home. what does being a nice normal tech worker who doesn't do fraud or tax evasion get? fucking nothing.

really hate my job lads, even if i work little and it pays decent
feels like i'm becoming more retarded by the day

>>106521688
you gonna "evade taxes" on zero income? what's the real criminal plan here?

in any case, you're right that being a codecel is not worth it for less than $200k/yr.

>>106521715
bald white man with cancer in a pork pie hat.jpg

>>106521711
that's the problem with my job too but it's insanely hard to find advice online. it seems like everyone's "work" is just completely overwork and stress that comes from long hours.
Mine is
>don't really have much tasks
>when I do have tasks it's completely out of scope but it comes from our VP so I can't say no
>this company has NO fucking tools or easily accessible teams to do what we need to do
>constantly needing to BA/PM IF they want to even move forward with this project
>hand in deliverables to my boss only to find out later he did nothing with them
>projects keep getting put on pause, scope creep to fucking astronomical levels, or people just bitch and moan about processes that's been there for fucking years now but NOW it's suddenly a big issue.
Like my day to day, I'll write 3-4 emails but anytime I'm forced into a meeting (and I fucking will, especially when it makes NO sense to bring me in at that moment) it's just constant loop around the carousel and it's ALWAYS with big named stakeholders and they ALWAYS keep asking me questions I don't fucking know and need some time to figure out. FUCK what would you even call this? I'm not working overtime or anything but everything just feels so ridiculous.

>>106521677
>500bn to openai and another 500 million jeets
funny you say that. instead of bringing more indians to the US, they will build datacenters in india >>106516382

learn a trade

>>106521758
oh sweet giggity it gets even better, looks like my replacement called sick during my vacation so now his work is stacked on mine! :D

>>106521688
>>106521688
>what does being a nice normal tech worker who doesn't do fraud or tax evasion get? fucking nothing.
What's wrong with just being a simple contributing and respectable member of society? I hate all of you zoomers with god complexes. You are just another cog in the machine and you are not special, accept it faggot.

>>106522071
fuck you take my shit and eat it.
>simple contributing and respectable member of society
no such fucking thing anymore genius.

>>106521493 (OP)
Jack Welch was a retard, and all of the jeeted tech companies have stack ranking and Indian managers seem to love it. But white ceos started it so I can't even blame indians for this one.

Name me 1 simple contributing and respectable member of society.

>talking to a Canadian based team
>boss tells them we're hosting an anniversary event next month and they'll be happy to swing on by all expenses paid
>"hehe, sorry we'll pass, wouldn't want to be detained haha :P"
Are they THAT scared of the US or is it just memes?

Is it me or some people always try to blame contractors for their shit?
>Stakeholder signs off scope and agreed delivery date
>Date comes, he adds new requirements, we push the delivery date
>Repeat this for 2 weeks
>Get blamed for not delivering the project and not being accountable
>Point at the signed off items and new ones piling on, delaying the date
From now on I'm going to make 100% sure everything is documented and signed off by >1 people, I almost got burned this time for something I don't have fault on because the stakeholder tried to play dumb when he was actually slacking off and probably got caught and tried to blame me instead.

>Good morning anon do u have some free minutes...wanted to discuss some information very quick
It's going to be a long day fellas.

>>106522466
Don't want to get sent back to india

>>106522495
They're white.

Anyone get strangely happy for people leaving our workplace? like good on you getting out of this toxic hellhole. I hope your bitch ass manager gets fucked because of it.

>>106522389
me
I increase economic velocity by participating in multiple Jobs Programs and spending all my money on canadian-value-added solutions to my various vices

>>106522466
half memes half genuinely not wanting to visit a Shithole Country (personally, every time i have been to america everything was incredibly inconvenient for no real reason and i would not be excited to go back even without le ICE may mays)

>>106522607
when I was on the botes it was like that. everyone who left got https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S22_DuaoHCU

>>106522656
happy Monday lil buddy

>>106521493 (OP)
what's everyone's goals for this week?
What will you be mindful of?

I plan on not being neurotic and try to be more committed to small, incremental steps of work. I wrh and it's tough to do anything when my work isnt used by anyone (hidden analytics)

>>106522480
Anon already doing the needful. Well done.

>>106522704
Goals for this week:
>Deliver items without burning myself out. Basically for tomorrow morning I have to finish a shitton of documentation and then continue working on deliverables.
>Try to win my new manager over so he does not micromanage me. I get he must be stressed due to the new responsibilities piled on him but he came up a little bit aggressive at me today asking for answers to some topics. Let's see if I can turn this around or it won't work.
Not work related, but indirectly affecting it:
>Hit the gym 3 times this week at least.
>Medidate daily for 5-10 minutes.
>Light walks to kickstart the day or take a short break.
>Keep dieting and cutting.

>>106521493 (OP)

not all human meet computor spec

>>106521563
fuck you corpo cuck slave

i wish i was a corporate femboy...

>>106523045
There's no such thing.

>>106523103
What a cruel world this is.

>>106523103
then whos buying all the programming socks

>>106523235
Geek south american shemales and code junkie femboys.

>>106523045
cool dystopia, etc

>Who hoards all the wealth while wages stagnate
>Who owns all the housing, utilities and the media?
>Who controls the government and corrupts society?
>Why is everything so shit?
>White people: FREAKING JEETS!!!!!!!!!
this country is so stupid god damn

>offered a systems engineer role
>never had to do programming and scripting for work before
>having bad imposter syndrome about it, don't think I'm good enough to be a programmer etc
How do I get over it bros or how do I just git gud? It would be full stack dev using jscript and some other proprietary shit.

>>106523406
Just because the jews are the cause of all society's ills doesn't mean I can't hate their golems too

I work in adtech and I fucking hate it. Nothing we do matters, but it pays so fucking well (200k+).

I lined up an interview with a company that provides tech solutions for disaster relief. It doesn't pay as well but it's still pretty good. I really really hope it works out for me because I can't spend another fucking year working on convincing drug addicts to buy more drugs

>>106523548
you wouldn't even see the golems if you kept them in check

>>106523406
>Who hoards all the wealth while wages stagnate
the wealth is anyone's challenge to obtain. Also FAGMAN does, but they trade their services (data) with other businesses
>Who owns all the housing, utilities and the media?
my landlord is white
my government who owns the utilities is mostly white
>Who controls the government and corrupts society?
voters, and people susceptible to Instagram brainwashing
>Why is everything so shit?
it's not
>White people: FREAKING JEETS!!!!!!!!!
I don't get it either

>>106523654
Why don't you sabotage the company? Could be more stimulating for you. Just dab out to Russia or China before you're caught.

>>106523754
your landlord is white? my landlord is a big corporation and defies race by being incorporeal

>read article about "woman leaves tech after 3 layoffs"
>she was on the sales team, not tech
>said she wanted to go to grad school but too expensive to quit job and go
>got married so now can make her husband pay for it
I hate all these doomer articles about how hard it is in tech when in reality this was some shitty sales rep who roped her new husband into letting her quit so she can go study as a hobby

>I do not know

The single best response you can give.

>>106523957
Meh, I think that "I am working on it" or "I haven't completed it YET" is the best.

Managers just need to tell their managers shits being worked on. Not "idk...."

Anyone else here work on some legacy project with one or more monolith file that causes a merge conflict every single time you pull? What's the best way to handle this i've just been pasting the entire file into notepad, writing a list of methods i made changes to, rolling back, pulling, then pasting those methods back in i feel there's got to be a better way

>>106523464
Imposter syndrome isn't real. If you don't believe you are good enough, you really are not good enough as you are.

>>106523913
Why are you against reducing competition through FUD?

>have to estimate points on items for the sprint
>entire team guesses 2+, team lead estimates 1, instantly writes down 1
or
>previously estimated item is too high according to the product owner
>re-estimate it to be lower so he is happy
he will be disappointed when it takes longer than the re-estimated value
or
>estimating non existing or unfinished trash items
or
>architect is in the meeting, says everything is easy and we are estimating everything way too high
We have never reached a sprint goal and most items take too long.
I genuinely don't know what I am even doing in those meetings. It's such a fucking clown show.

>>106524274
my biggest fear is my boomer waterfall boss retiring and the replacement guy trying to pull some retarded humiliation rituals like this

>>106524296
Ironic you're saying this because lowering sprint estimations to appease product owners is literally waterfall

The whole point of story points is saying "nope, this topic is too big/complex we can't do it in time"

>Got a task last wednesday
>Should've taken me no more than a day, maybe 2, to get it done
>I've done absolutely nothing
>I had no other tasks or reasons to not do it
How do I get away with this tomorrow during the evaluation? It's first thing in the morning so I can't even rush it when I get there

>>106524337
>evaluation
Is this one of those American humiliation rituals?

>>106524323
no you don't understand
we don't even have sprints

>>106524392
Yea you have quarters instead

>earn 30k less than the average for my position
>starting to drown financially due to fagflation and student debt
>not a single interview despite being actively employed for half a decade

>>106524425
>quarters
nah it's public sector so no conception of a quarter either it's literally all just built on "I'll try to have that in for Wednesday" 's

Interesting post from Sam Altman. He's noticing both an increase in bots using LLMs, and in human beings who write like LLMs. Social media feels "fake" to him now.

>>106524483
This guy claims to be a genius and only now believes social media is fake, gay and botted. He earns absurd money being a retard while I wallow in poverty.

>>106524483
UNEMPLOYED FAGGOT GTFO OF MY THREAD!!

>>106524493
It's all about winning the room. That's what success is.

Why the fuck do so many of you date asians? Seriously there a whole department of stacies, but all my co-workers are dating asians or a latino.

>>106524552
Because the alternative is dating white women.

>>106524552
>implying I've ever kissed a girl

wmaf is cringy

>>106524552
because they're beta males and can't pick up the white women.

>>106524552
techbros are a mix of anime obsessed losers and sexpats who can't get laid without paying for it (and refuse to pay enough to afford more than a thai ladyboy)

>>106524580
you guys make more than most white collar workers, what the fuck? The only one beating you guys is sales.

>company struggles
>they fire half the dev team
>that’s it guys we’re done and keeping the team as it is! no more hires! use ai yada yada
>they hire another 2 “leaders” off the rip
>tfw 25% of the company is now “leadership” by headcount.
>none of these people actually do anything or contribute in any tangle way
>just sucking air out of a room and talking about diversity or whatever
>even when a task is explicitly given for them so sort out they just use empty words and don’t resolve anything
>have to smile and wave as I see the ship sinking in my job

the professional managerial class are parasites

>>106524392
We have "sprints". Yet the customer that cries hardest gets the highest priority. Nor do we have a long term roadmap or anything like that. It's more kanban like than sprint

>>106524493
But he told the senate that he doesn't make any money!

>>106524643

Yeah this infection has seeped into every single industry. Part of the "rent seeking" problem of late stage civilizations, once we're past the growth and innovation phase. The doers are getting fucked and the managers and admins are ballooning in number.

>>106524483
confirmation bias

>>106524552
because despite loving the money that comes from working in tech, tech gives white women the ick and white women aren't worth all the extra baggage
slanted pussy feels the same, often tighter, and comes with generally less explosive irrationality

>>106524643
I feel like the managerial class blew their load. Alot of companies are getting rekt by now because their not enough people. The Indian off-shoring experiment is also slowly dying as they become one of the most hated race in America.

>>106524687
>The Indian off-shoring experiment is also slowly dying
lmao no its not, every few weeks trump approves another gorillion H1Bs

the elites dont care about being liked, they care about number go up and cashing out to go live in a doomsday bunker.

>>106524683
But Varg says you should marry a white women no matter what. How else are we gonna continue the white race retard.

>>106524643
>>106524676
>>106524687
You guys are acting like this is a new phenomenon, it even has its term:
"top-heavy organization"

>>106524791
I didn’t say it was new at all.

>>106524756
I'd rather be an incel than marry a stacy with jamal's cum turd

At least it's not a denial to go with a jeet instead

>recruiter reached out
>he's white
>asks if I want to interview for a startup
>head of a department role
Yay that I could head a department but it's a startup. How much of a shit show is it going to be?

>>106524955
get real

>>106525018
Highly depends on the startup
But considering you're posting here it's probably a 3-man startup and you'll get minimum wage kek. Enjoy

>>106525041
I better not get that. I don't want to work for a 3-man startup or work for peanuts.

idk if i'm gonna make it through this week
and idk if i even want to anymore

>>106525018
As much of a shitshow as you make it. Everyone else will be useless and you'll spend all your effort ping ponging between whatever retarded business decisions the dumbass in charge makes any given hour. If you don't have a clear vision and the skills to misdirect everyone away from being able to impact your own department you will fail.

Just saw someone open up chatgpt to do basic arithmetic

not even checking a whole function or something, literally he just punched in 80*54 into fucking chatgpt

I finally did it bros.
>woke up made coffee, ate breakfast,
>typed up my notice for effective immediately.
>collected all my company owned shit
>drove to the office one last time
>dropped off everything with HR, both managers I sent my resignation to were nowhere in sight.
Cracks me up that this is all because they wanted me in the office 5 days a week. All over 2 work from home days. Do not settle anons.

>install some shit on npm
>npm audit suddenly says critical vulnerabilities
>malware on some random dependency
What the fuck

>>106525324
I hope you have enough cash to retire otherwise you're going to end up on the street. New jobs don't exist. They're all AI now.

>>106525324
Good luck, friend.

>>106525165
That, I can handle. Been dealing with that crap for years from different clients. I'm just worried of being the sole department for next to nothing. At least this startup is using an outside recruiter so they have SOME kind of money.

>>106525160
mood

>>106525324
Everyday I dream with quitting, then I take a look at offers being posted and I calm down like a good slave

>>106525407
yes i am in a bad mood

>>106525369
they hacked isEven so it drains your bitcoins if u install it....

>>106525431
also mood

>>106525473
I wouldn't fucking have to touch this npm shit if it wasn't because of shitty full stack positions

>>106525324
They wanted you to quit and now they’re going to hire 3 Indians for your pay and wonder why their profits are dropping from now till bankruptcy

>>106525324
Good job retard, instead of just not going to the office and getting fired with a comfy severance package, you decided to cuck yourself willingly lmao

canadians btfo

If you didn't get a job in 2020 and became an indispensable senior at a company you fucked up and it's literally over for you

>>106525324
Dropping your stuff off was kind of a bitch move.
We've had 3 days per week in office for 2 years now and I have in been in maybe 3 times total in that time.
I'd probably cuck if they called me out but my manager is a jeet and knows I'm superior.

I will message you about deadlines
You will reply immediately
You will make the deadline
I will ask again tomorrow

if I am on track to get a promotion will taking paternity leave set me back? Will they look at it like I only did 9 months of work in 12, or will it be like the 3 months never happened

>>106525886
Fuck off normie

>>106525886
Most American post itt

>>106525324
Based, nothing is going to get better until engineers start demanding more

>>106525886
it will be like the 3 months never happened, aka you only did 9 months of work in 12. ur fukt. shouldnt have had a kid shitass, that makes number go DOWN you should have just imported an already grown and mostly independent child (who can be immediately put to work in the sugar mines of florida)

>>106525949
>>106526015
>>106526045
I'll just ask reddit, they would know more about this situation

Why does my company have like 20+ green frog reacts

>remembering how my employer threatened my livelihood if I didn't take a poison shot
Instead it's my attitude which is poisoned. Fucking fags and no I'm not going to hang out and drink onions juice.

>>106526110
>>106526117

>>106526069
>will not working hinder my career goals?
yes

>>106526110
my company has a few frog reacts in teams too
also
>product "managers" add memes to their presentations
embarrassing, how i hate the modern office culture

>>106524569
>wmaf is cringy
i love wmaf. our hybrids will mature over the next 2 decades, forming a racial bloc the world has never quite seen.

especially true for west coast tech wmaf
>>106524605
>you guys make more than most white collar workers, what the fuck? The only one beating you guys is sales.
extremely low swag for the income though.

>>106526110
You should hover over them to see the filenames/aliases for them. If any of them are for the wrong frog (i.e., it says Pepe but it's actually Apu), you should write an email to IT to get them fixed asap

>>106524676
>The doers are getting fucked and the managers and admins are ballooning in number.
I'm part of the ballooning. I'm convinced a lot of would-be or past "doers" transition to management bloat of some kind because they see they can make just as much or more by for way less work by joining the bloat.

>>106525431
Literally me. Being turned down left and right. The other week I got ghosted by a recruiter who was chasing me around begging for an interview. Other than her every single application I sent is either rejected or in pending limbo.
I guess I will stay wherever I'm at.

What does operational excellence mean to you? To me, it means consistently delivering high-quality results through efficient processes, continuous improvement, and a culture that empowers people to innovate and solve problems effectively.

why do so many people stay in the game instead of increasing their income and cutting costs?

My magic number is $80k at a sub 2 or 3 % withdrawal rate. Already hit CoastFIRE but I could see myself hitting the number in 10 more years then I'm fucking off to a cheaper place and living like a king.

>>106526428
80k today equivalent is going to be 200k in ten years

>>106526428
>80k
i made that in like 4 years in the navy and am still around 60k after loafing around for a few years. 80k in savings is very achievable if you arent a moron but will also disappear faster than you think, especially now that everything has been turbo jewed

do your coworkers use avatars that aren't their real self? like anime or movie characters?

>>106526487
I know, I'm talking about todays dollars and purchasing power, future-wise i'm sure it gonna be a higher amount.

>>106526491
Not income, safe withdrawal rate from your asset portfolio.

>>106526428
>why don't most people save up $4 million dollars
Well it's difficult while hitting other normie milestones

>>106526487
Also this, situations change and I'm skeptical
>just buy the market
will be good advice for another hundred years straight

>>106526535
Yeah it's kind of gay especially if it's a cartoon of themselves

>>106526549
You could hit CoastFIRE and let compound work for you. Warren Buffet made most of his money after his 50s due to it.

>>106526543
>>106526549
>>106526578
>just have 4 million dollars lying around bro its ez
oh okay you were simply larping. carry on then

>>106526597
you guys work in Tech, if there any profession that could hit that, it tech and high finance.

>>106526629
even if you are in the top 10% that make Le Big Figgies lmao as if

>>106524274
>>architect is in the meeting, says everything is easy and we are estimating everything way too high
This is me, by the way. Stop complaining and just comply with my vision.

>>106526692

Idk when this was made but 401k contributions maximums are at $23.5k. They should be focus on capping it. Then they need to make a backdoor Roth. They got wiggle room. The only thing they need to do left is create a bridge account until they can access their retirement funds.

So yea they are in fact doing better than fine. The house gives them access to HELOCs down the line.

There alot of shit here they can cut like the date nights every two week, childcare costs are short-term in nature and will give them a 42k buffer when the kids get old enough. They could drive a beater instead of a BMW and the Misc buckets is too generic.

>>106526629
the thing about "tech" having a "high" average wage is that it includes people like elon musk and jeff bezos.

>>106526789
$250k is like average no?

>>106526792
even if 250k is an honest average that means there's plenty of salaries below that. the average iq is 100 but think of how many retards you meet in a day. around half of people are lower than 100 iq. think of all the times you personally were retarded for a moment. you might be retarded RIGHT NOW. and just like that bam you think you're gonna make big figgies but end up making 60k to import npm modules

>>106525431
https://x.com/arakharazian/status/1965073568561275158

Looks like it's not so good over on the employed side of the equation either, huh?

>>106526692
>just donate $18k a year to kars4kids, goy

>>106526692
>401k Contribution
Only put in as much as you get matched. Anything else is basically a waste. Just eat the damn tax now.
>40% Effective Tax Rate
Max tax bracket is 37% but since they're a combined $500k in today's rate their tax bracket is 32% or their effective rate is 22.8% + FICA + State Income Tax
>Food for four
Might be a bit on the high side. It could be lower if you know how to cook.
>Mortgage
>$5k
LOL LMAO
>Three vacations a year
Knock that down to one. You live in the US. There's no such thing as enough vacation time for 3 whole vacations a year.
>Car Payment
Should have cleared that out completely a long time ago
>Clothes for four people
Depending what age the kids are, this is mostly the wife spending money
>Student loan debt
LMAO it's whatever at this point
>Charity
No. Stop giving free money to institutions that don't need it.

They forgot to include their emergency fund and max out other retirement vehicles. This thing is retarded.

>>106526815
Hey man at the end of the day it a math problem, alot of shit I see is just tech bros spending too much money and not saving enough, you put as much money as you can into investments in your 20s and 30s and calc your rate of return on when you retire and how much you need.

Tech is ageist and I personally wouldn't want to be in the situation where I see so many boomers are at and I wanna control my exit. I got a taste of it this layoff session but i'm employed again. Hoping when I get laid off again it gonna be a nice severence and bennies and then never working again.

>>106526886
It lowers their taxable income, they make too much money to put it in a roth.

401(k)s are fucking god tier for controlling your tax rate in retirement.

>>106526886
>>Mortgage
>>$5k
>LOL LMAO
it's $60k
still, I bet they have a $x million house

>>106526918
Backdoor that shit and eat the tax then and there. You're either going to pay taxes now or later. I'm more of the mind to pay now and give Uncle Sam the finger when I'm still working my Engineer II position at 80.

>>106526908
ok fair but just "get le code job lol" is not going to get you to a point where you can have out 80k per month with no other income. not even if you cheat on your taxes to save 5% or whatever

>>106526908
Because FIRE is a fucking meme. You live like a dog for 30 years in order to live as slightly better than a dog for the remaining 20 with absolutely no wealth to leave for your kids (actually you won't have any, since no woman is going to shack up with a man who refuses to spend). You hate your job and decide to make it even more miserable for yourself.

>>106526933
It's $5k a month. I'm laughing because that's probably hyper idealized depending on the area. The way money is being spent on that spreadsheet, I wouldn't be surprised that they're paying high PMI because they couldn't put together a good down-payment.

>>106526792
Where? Cite your sources, because that's an absolute bullshit number.

>>106526942
I was thinking 80k per year not month.
>>106526934
I think you can only do $7k per year in a backdoor strat, so yea you still need to do some shit pre-tax.
I'm sure you can get around 31k and get it all tax-free assuming MFJ.
>>106526964
Adults are talking, you sound like those retarded doomers.

>>106526968
well you see, mark zuckerburg makes infinity gajillion dollars, so i should be able to make at least 500k for vibe coding third party SAP modules

>>106526815
If you can't become a millionaire within 6 years with a 250k salary, you're just plain retarded

>>106526997
Sorry that I decided to invade your risk-averse bubble of delusion.

>>106526997
How so? I'm not saying FIRE but you can definitely let compound growth work in your favor. Do you really want to be working in your 50s dependent on a wage?

>>106526997
he's not wrong. fire is a complete meme. you live off beans and rice so you can "retire early" and have no generational wealth, probably going back to eating rice and beans after getting to take one nice vacation in your 40s

if it was so easy to make 80k/yr doing literally nothing, money would be completely fucking meaningless and we would be experiencing hyperinflation. you are literally taking tik tok grifter advice

>>106527014
most people retire at at least 65. and if you're COOOODING you can certainly just sit at a desk in an air conditioned office doing whatever it is PMs do at 65

Does anyone work for a non-FAGMAN in the Seattle area? What are the best ways to look for something there other than online job boards if I'm looking to move back to the area next year?

>>106526997
True. Backdoor is capped. Still, I rather just eat the tax and then put the rest of the post-tax monies into $SPY or some other ETF. I like being able to sell daily FDs and make some quick "beer money" everyday.

>>106527030
yeah i sell crack
you want some samples bro

>>106527030
I know a guy who works for some ai startup in seattle

>>106527037
>FIRE retard dumps his money in an index fund and withdraws it the next day for "beer money", never allowing his money to accumulate actual interest

you people are retarded and will die of hunger at 45 without a pension unemployable due to a 20 year resume gap after draining your mothers' savings for tendies

>>106527024
Most people die shortly after their retirement in that age bracket, fuck that shit. I'm trying to get away from that in my 50s, that'll give me a good 10 years to travel.

What do you mean doing nothing, that $80k is coming in from wage slaves in companies trying to create value. All I'm saying tech bros have the income to do so and I don't see why they aren't doing it? You guys are HENRY pretty much.

>>106527057
bruh, I'm selling FDs on my $SPY shares. It means I'm selling OTM options to dumbasses for some sweet premium. If I ever get exercised, I just wheel my way back in. It's not that hard.

>>106526965
have you seen housing prices and interest rates today? 5k is 40% down on a 1500 sq foot house

>>106527065
most people instead of cutting their career at 30 because they finally have 500$ in savings, just continue working and then have an actual pension, pay off their house, and have something to leave to their kids

>>106526110
my company banned frog reacts on the basis of them being a right wing hate symbol
im not kidding

>>106527078
no part of this post is english

Why are you so poor? Lol.

>>106527101
Again I never said anything about FIRE idk who put that shit in, I said make sure you invest more than enough so you can control your exit, because you could get laid off and never be able to come back in.

Anyways here a back test. 1990 - 2025.

Assuming you cap out your 401(k), Roth, and built a bridge account (1250 contribution per month inflation adjusted) you would have close to $7 million dollars today, at a 3% withdrawal rate you could withdraw $201k and the portfolio should keep rising forever.

I miss the old portfolio visualizer tool, it had a great monte carlo simulation and that way better.

>>106527123
I'm not a boomer in the 1980s nor is my name Ranjeesh or Supreet or whatever.

>>106527150
80% US Market and 20% US small cap.

>Retiring
The best thing you can do is set your kids up for better success than you ever accomplished. Even then they might still grow up to be massive fucking losers.

>>106527180
What are you gonna do when the company kicks you out?

>>106527184
Burn my body in the lobby in protest.

>>106527150
>1250 per month for 35 years
hope you dont have kids, ever have an accident, or live in a high cost of living area. oh and that you manage to get a house for straight cash and never pay interest on anything
the "average" tech wage isnt some 250k+bennies+stonks wfh from iowa monstrosity, you've been tricked by teamblind jeets.

even if you do tech support you should be comfortable and probably have a corpo pension (or at least contribution matching or something) but thinking youll have like 30k per year of spare cash to le ebinly max le 401k and then even more for your own "self-directed investment" (which will only go up!!) is pretty optimistic for someone whose entire education is made up of comptia certs and vibecoding leetcode challenges

that said being unable to save *at all* is poorfag skill issues but you ain't retiring at 50. and even if you could, if you're a white collar worker why not just stay in management collecting a wage to sit around bullying neo-zoomers on top of your ebin investments

>>106527236
But i've literally been able to do that for years now. tbqh it more important to do it when you're young. I don't have kids yet but I could see them getting in the way, but we'll have to see when I approach there.

To your second point, I'm just hoping to have enough to secure my exit. Like if a Layoff happens it a good thing, not a bad thing. You'll get severence and bennies then fuck off into retirement plus you could focus all of that time in trying to maintain health.

Also I still go on vacations, was in Malaysia and SEA a few months ago and Japan last year.

>>106527102
Stop being racist.

>it's not just larp, it's sexpat larp
fire chuds are so predictable

>>106527102
you should start bringing in dead frogs to prove how anti racist you are

>>106523406
it's the poo dude
ok maybe it's the scamming too
but mainly it's the poo

Nobody but you can stand shit you imbeciles

>>106527298
even indians hate other indians

>>106527292
I hope you have a good day dude or something, sounds like you need it.

If you don't make AT LEAST 3 mil a year, you're a poorfag and NGMI it, simple as.

Why is absolutely all work just webshitting in Javascript with n-billion levels of frameworks making everything so abstract that you have no idea what's even happening behind it all?

>>106527363
simplest workflow. most people can't even figure out that much.

>>106527363
AI wasn't invented yet in 2020 and there was no way to do such advanced tasks as "check if a number is even (and crash if it's not an integer) but AI will fix it with just another 5 trillion dollars and the entire electrical output of the united states and most of canada

>Took the leap and got out of my well paid factory job
>just over 1 year in as a cw data center tech making about 22 with no ot. Everything seems like it's all cw work with narrow work scope.
I'm shitting myself and thinking of going union electrician for the guaranteed path. Who else /datacenter/? Anyone else come from /trade/ or think about going to it? I like the data center for the variety (linux+hardware, electrical, mechanical troubleshooting, facilities maintenance) but it seems like everything is contracted out.

>>106527513
I'm not a tradie but an electrician seems like a good bet depending on where you live now that America is finally starting to replace copper with fiber.

>>106527533
electricians dont work with fiber you idiot, and pretty rarely on data lines in general

you need to be a "structured cable technician", whatever the fuck thats supposed to mean (electrician who traded the knowledge of what a fuse is for a couple of techbro certs i guess, but still, theyre different trades and have been a long time, even ancient Linesmen were distinct from Electricians)

>Training dataset for image recognition software
>Someone for shits and giggles put in a picture of his dick.
>Came back "Identifiers: ... small ..."

>>106527653
>Take idea away from cars and super computers(HPC)
>Completely fuck it up entirely
>Even premade ones have issues beyond just moving it that can cause breakage.

Uhhh why don't you niggas participate in your ESPP... it literally free fucking money anything about 7% discount.

>>106527825
My company is a private MSP. Not big enough for IPO. I will ask if they can get me some future stock options.

>>106527825
I do participate in the ESPP

>>106527653
Why is water cooling so fucking unreliable?

>>106527854
Real water cooling requires math that tech enthusiasts lack fundamentals of. Jay2 cents at this point is moving away from water cooling(his entire channels appeal) to air cooling since its easier to manage.

>>106527849
I know but most don't, new job offer is giving me a 15% ESPP with a lookback provision. I'm gonna max it to 10% of my salary, it guaranteed 15% gains, and it beats anything I could put it into.

>>106527865
Seems unfortunate since liquid cooling is almost always superior in 90% of cases, just ask Porsche.

Office wagie pro tip:

Get lululemon pants, they feel like PJs but look like slacks. Thank me later.

>>106527869
I guess it depends upon what is effective for you. I rather not deal with water cooling on a PC. But i cannot imagine my 4 cylinder honda civic working properly on air cooling.

>>106523464
Imposter syndrome is your guilty conscience saying you're underqualified and overpaid for your job.

>>106527894
The QRD that goes for cars is basically that Porsches were air-cooled for a very long time, something that many enthusiasts still desire because less weight and less things to go wrong, but eventually had to drop it because liquid cooling is not only more powerful but can fit in smaller spaces where air-cooling more or less requires having a very open and spacious engine bay.

More or less the same deal as with computers with the main problem being that unlike an engine, if coolant starts leaking it can immediately cause a catastrophic failure rather than just eventually, and the fact that 95% of all liquid cooling setups on PCs are extremely unreliable and prone to failure.

>>106524274
Architects are frauds that failed upwards.

>>106527903
That doesn't make him any different from any of the H1Bs that currently make up 60% of any company based in the US, so what's the problem?

>>106527924
SAAAR HE IS STEALING FROM THE COMPANY BY LEARNING. EITHER YOU KNOW OR YOU DON'T IF YOU ARE WHITE.

Should I just lie that I have AWS, Azure and GCP certifications and start applying to Cloud Architect roles?

>>106527918
Yeah nothing compares to water cooling. Porsche is a meme brand for the newly rich, the real men that churn the economy around drive a ZR1 Corvette
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9oJZ2ApCfTI
Data center water cooling
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJYSzc7YkY0

>>106527952
Amazon will hire you if you have a CS degree for almost any role they have massive turnover rate.

>>106527924
H1Bs have more pressure to perform versus being hired just for breathing air.

>>106527963
>Porsche is a meme brand for the newly rich
Not really, they just werk, which is why most rich people end up driving them around everywhere while they're terrified of putting miles on anything nicer they might have.

Corvettes are nice too, though, I wish I had a job so I could buy one.

>>106527971
>H1Bs have more pressure to perform
Well that pressure doesn't lead to better software or hardware so...

>>106527992
Lots of rich people drive F150 Raptors.

>>106528037
Rich people drive anything, really.
But I live in a rich area and if there's any sports car I see more than any other around here it's a Porsche. Second would be Corvettes.
If I'm really lucky the guy that owns a McLaren will be driving it on the streets.

>>106527992
You can always buy a used Corvette but i have to deal with snow/hail/flooding in my area so its rather inconvenient.

>>106528080
Used Corvettes in my price range didn't have cooled seats so I'm running with a surprisingly well kept Mercedes-Benz SL550 until I'm better off enough financially to own a C7 Z51 with all the options.

>>106527919
architects got absorbed into the devops meme i think.

>>106521493 (OP)
managers are never held accountable

>>106528156
CEOs will lose a company 700 million dollars and the only thing that happens is that the company decides that all of its US accounting will now be down by Pakis.

>>106521758
so you get paid to do nothing?
sounds like you need to expand your perspective.
I think you think you understand your job, but you actually dont.

>>106528112
Based responsibility chad. I will keep my honda civic until it dies. Type R is a meme, honda SI is a better value and Acuras aren't bad so i atleast have an upgrade path if i really want to do so.

>>106522469
> the stakeholder tried to play dumb when he was actually slacking off
This is not a one off. It is extremely common. Why do you think you were hired?

A lot of the takes in this thread sound naive. You people are either young, sheltered, or committed to ignorance.

funny how they say "oh AI is useless because it hallucinates" when HR roasties and PMs hallucinate 80% of the time already

>>106528249
IT department lives off of hallucinations. "Can't break it anymore" is a common saying.

>>106527866
Ours isn't a lookback, just a 10% discount I think, but yes, I still use it
Keep in mind though that if you ever sell the ESPP shares, you have to do extra work on your taxes or else you're not actually getting the benefit

devops or architect? what's the better path moving forwards?

>>106528382
Upload CV(cleaned up ofc) then we can laugh at you properly.

>>106528382
architect
devops is miserable and you are actually expected to do work

>>106528414
Does this include the Cloud Architect role?

Got a job after some time, but it is stupid 9-5 wageslaving with a fair ammount of caging.
I'm tired of fake city jobs, bros. At this point in my life I'd rather do woodwork in a shop next to my house (If I had one), live in a village like in the 1800s, wake up whenever I want, work at my own pace, be my own boss. Why did that kind of life dissappear? It was harsher but it was better.

i'm thinking about jobmaxxing. my current job requires very little actual work.
how can you tell if a job would let you get away with not doing much? i think it's probably good to look at big non-tech companies, but i kind of just lucked into the role i'm doing now. i didn't expect it to be as low intensity as it turned out.

>>106528424
It's easy to romanticize harsh living conditions and manual labor when you've never experienced it before yourself.

>>106528175
you want to cash me outside?

hadn't opened my linkedin in a while, it's disgusting how most jobs are some "ai" related shit
i really wanna jump ship but this market SUCKS BALLS and i have no interest in becoming an ai grifter

Man I hate the fact that once you start making good money you can't agree with social-liberal beliefs anymore.

I got family calling me stuck up while they are on bennies bitching about being poor. I think welfare is fucking scary and it sad to see the young ones stuck cause their parents won't let them work or do anything because it'll threaten the bennies.

Applying to a job for a government contractor. should i put down male or none binary for gender? even through trump's in office, the contractors are still loving the homo shit from what i understand

had to reset the password of someone who died

>>106528927
you can reset my password when I die, anon.

How long is the process for government applications? I want to get out of this shit job sooner than later but my dream job is a government one that I just applied for.

>>106528938
All depends. If it's a general job then about 2 months with background check. If it's a clearance(one that you have) then its 3 months with an additional background check. If you don't have a clearance then 6-24 months.

>>106528941
It's one that requires Negative Vetting 1 (The lowest clearance to work with classified stuff in Australia) and I have been working in private sector for most of my life so far.

>>106528641
Classic crabs in a bucket mentality. They know they're poor but don't want to admit that they're failures.

>>106528938
3+ years

I still think about this.

Reminder not to fall for the news of "jobs being destroyed" by AI.

It's an Indian. It's always just an Indian. You don't have a job because for some reason multiple world leaders suffer India and Pakistan to exist.

>>106529093
I still think they're grossly overvaluing these jokers

https://youtu.be/b7_wq9CoIYA

>>106526965
I bought a house in 2/2022 for 1m at 2.75%. 250k down, 3500 mortgage, 1800/m property/school taxes. It sucks but a neighbor sold their house for 1.6m with the same layout but way worse than mine kek.

>>106527024
Fire is not a meme. Obviously you don't have to take it to the extreme by eating onlyrice and beans. Wife and I went on plenty of vacations in 20+ countries, ate out when younger. Still managed to max out all tax advantaged accounts every year, even regular brokerage accounts because saving a lot. Now at 38 we have 3m nw. Don't want to retire now but if I get laid off or whatever we'd be perfectly fine. We're in healthcare though so probably won't get laid off.

>Finally feel like I got a stable enough income to not only purchase a house, but to build one
>Find out how shit every building company is in my country
FUG :DDD

Guys guys guys HEADS UP

if you wanna work in QA or even game QA this means you'll record gameplay videos A LOT

and they might take up 1gb from just 10 minutes of gameplay

If 1 game might take up 10 videos that means your storage will be drained by 100gb

Make sure to stack up storages. Get at least 1TB and you might need external storages too.

Is there anyone here knows how to save space when recording?

I'm using snagit btw because it's so fast to take, but im listening for other recommendation

>>106527024
>>106529355

FIRE is like how crossfit is to getting fit. It's just another path to reach the goal of being able to fuck off whenever you want. You can also make some big bets if it's too slow. Time kills us all anyway.

>>106527992
I bought one because it's really the only sports car you can daily. Though my commute is short so it only gets 5k miles a year. Plus it has 2 extra seats for my children.

>>106529188
We will be recreating the junior dev in the aggregate with Pajeet, Zhang, and another mba hire.

>>106524552
they're simply better looking. I like their skin tone and healthy black hair

>>106525811
what have you been doing instead of going in to work?

>>106525324
I hope this place didn't brainwash you into those actions. Regardless, relax and enjoy your time off.

>>106527854
tech people are stupid and try to reinvent plumbing from scratch

>>106527435
kek

>used up all my WFH hours this quarter
>gemini stopped working, so I have nothing to do in the office
How do you kill the time?

>>106521663
Happy birthday anon

>>106529618
Read random enthusiast forums over obscure subjects.

Interview today gonna shitpost in twg for good luck

>>106529428
The moment you use an MBA, you're already in the negatives

>>106529618
>WFH hours
Do ameriburgers really?

>work laptop wakes up and starts freaking out blasting W11 error/ping noises at 2 am because it lost connection for 5 seconds over night
>cant get back to sleep now
I hate you microsoft

>>106529946
Am euro, actually. I'd search for a fully remote job, but I fear they'll have some kind of click tracking implemented and I go from bad to worse. Current job is chill.

>>106529946
it's an open secret that wfh is basically time off. thats why techbros complaining about low wages/"humiliation rituals" in tech is so funny. these niggers literally just sit at home jerking off and playing video games and expect to make 300k/yr for it

any of you guys work multiple jobs? like two remotes or one remote one hybrid? i'm wondering about how feasible it is to actually balance multiple jobs. i work maybe 20-25 hours a week of real work. i could totally do another job, but i'm worried it would blow up in my face.

>>106529954
Good thing I have a MacBook.

Although my gaming PC has sometimes woken me up during the night when it has decided to boot up for updates and blast the fans as it does so.

>>106526792
>$250k is like average no?
250k is not the average lol

>>106527024
>fire is a complete meme. you live off beans and rice so you can "retire early" and have no generational wealth, probably going back to eating rice and beans after getting to take one nice vacation in your 40s
while I think FIRE as a community is a meme, high income FIRE doesn't have to mean eating beans and rice. chill with the straw man lol

>>106530001
The fallacy is that the office is more productive, because people are talking, sitting on smartphones, inventing bullshit tasks/meetings for themselves.

>>106530018
i dont work them at the same time but i got a "real" job and am a reservist

a while back i had a coworker who, before joining the full time force for reasons i still dont understand, would bring his wfh/on-call laptop from an MSP gig into the unit. i only saw him actually have to take a call once though.

>>106527866
only some ESPPs give you guaranteed gains. mine did and I loaded up on it of course

>>106530079
thats just what hr roasties say. the real reason the office is "more productive" is because you are forced to not browse anything nsfw so once you exhaust the top reddit posts and local news you have to at least engage in "professional development" and read old documentation or something even if you have no real tasks

>>106522704
The bottom thing allows you to do the top thing
If you don't have bottom thing doing top thing makes it feel worthless

As it was written.

>>106530051
Its below average. You can't afford the utilities in south east asia with that in USD.

>>106530094
I live in Indonesia and if you make $250k a year youll own a whole apartment building

>>106530108
It would be starving, begging for a 20lb of bag of pinto beans and 20lb bag of rice to survive for the month in the US.

>>106530093
why does that black child have a such a wicked beard

>>106527963
>Porsche is a meme brand for the newly rich, the real men that churn the economy around drive a ZR1 Corvette
God Americans have such fucking stupid opinions.

>>106530126
>>106527963
>posche
>vette
both boomer brands
every nouveau riche person i know owns an overpriced japanese or german SUV and the few that are "into cars" enough to get a sports car get some riced out tuner or a mustang/charger. corvette lost the normies when they went mid-engined like a decade ago

>>106530089
I wish this was true so I wouldn't have to wear headphones in offoce all day to block out yet another fascinating gossip when I have to actually work for once.

>>106530139
i didnt say offices werent noisy, just that its not the reason it's more productive

>>106530147
And I bring gossip up as an example (and in my case, I'm not exaggerating - some people literally talk for whole 8 hours) of something not productive happening in office, but typically not WFH

>>106530187
i also didnt say its meaningfully productive, just more productive (more than 0 but less than 1 is still more than 0)

the truth is the west is 99% bullshit jobs

>>106530223
Honestly even blue collar jobs are bullshit. A lot of those jobs are propped up from the governments need to have a higher GDP in all countries, china, japan, germany and america are notable examples of evolving standards to keep the economy running.

it's not good
it doesnt even work

>>106530359
Elon musk is getting a one trillion dollar pay package. Why are (You) still poor?

>go into job interview
>after pleasantries, first guy makes me do a coding test
>coding test was good, interviewer said you understand the data types but the memory usage and run time could be improved but your code is still impressive
>second interviewer enters, first interviewer tells her that my code was pretty good
>second interviewer sits down and she tells me that the technical assessment is over, she's just here to check if I vibe with the team
>she goes over my resume, says my thesis was impressive (I'm a fresh grad) she asks me to elaborate
>i explain my thesis in detail and she says she doesn't understand some of what I said but she's nonetheless impressed
>everything going smoothly at this point
>suddenly
>she says "you put an interests section here. why the FUCK would you think I care if you play chess or that you love go-karts"
>i tell her my university's placement office suggested that, they said it'd make me look interesting and it could establish some common ground with the interviewers
>she tells me she doesn't have the fucking time for interests and that everyone in the team is expected to be on call 24/7 and "shit like chess and fucking go-karts get in the way"
>i start crying
>i told her "but the other interviewers in different companies liked that I had other interest"
>she tells me to get the fuck out of her office
>i ran out of the room, elevator would've taken a while, i just took the stairs and exited the building covered in sweat and tears
>got into a lyft and I couldn't stop crying, tears dropping into my resume, soiling the paper and making the ink run
>went to my room and put my chess board under my bed cause seeing that makes me cry

what the fuck did I do wrong?

>>106530525
wtf

>>106530525
You didn't come up with a believable story, that's what.

>>106530525
If this is real, sympathies for you anon. HR roasties are the lowest of the low.

>>106522469
nothing changed for me, still cold and depressed

>>106530137
In Seattle all the techies drive Teslas and Cayennes.

>>106530671
>Cayennes

>>106530525
yeah, people don't care about your interests or hobbies anon now you know to leave that out for the next time.

>>106530671
As bad as the Cayennes are as bad as the Urus. I cannot imagine those shitboxes lasting 100k miles. Likewise any EV.

>>106530719
>>106530744
Cayennes are actually the best SUVs if you really need to get one. They're also more reliable than you'd think. Even the Cayenne Turbos.

I wanna quit so bad, bros
I don't even care if I don't get a job in tech, fuck this garbage, it's horrible
I'm CRAVING physical labor
What a fucking mistake CS was, I don't like programming, I don't like office etiquette, I miss walmart

>>106530838
Consider Fiber Optic installation or line man. Decent pay for adjacent IT jobs but not IT.

>>106530838
just join the Space Force and become a space shuttle door gunner

>>106530838
WAAAAAALMAAAAAAART

>>106530855
>Be recruiter
>You have 3 choices shuttle gunner, shuttle mechanic or personnel.
>Do you cope, sneed or seethe?

>>106530838
Kinda mood, I'm too mentally ill for this weird mix of freedom in a cage vibe this type of job has. I can't focus on work, I don't like having the freedom of doing whatever I want. I need a manager telling me to do X and then Y and then work on Z or I just won't do anything and then in a week my managers and bosses shit on me for having done 0 work. I can't do any work during WFH days either, my brain just refuses to. Doesn't matter the room I sit on, I just can't. I can't even do it at the office sometimes I just rawdog 8h shifts staring at my screen doing nothing I'm fucked in the head I think

>>106530884
The military is a perfect fit. I would throw you at issues until you are ragged like a dog with a bone in its mouth wagging its tail.

>>106530893
the military does not offer bones nor tails

>>106530961
Shut the fuck up furfag.

They're asking me to log my entire workday on a spreadsheet. Gotta input hours and minutes each task took, and everything should round up to 8h everyday

What the fuck

>>106531262
Tell them to purchase a ticketing system to do it for you. It will save them admin overhead to micromanage everyone. Other than that look for other jobs they are itching to fire someone for the bottom line.

>>106531262
The time logging system at my previous job was so bad that I've considered making my own timesheet SaaS application now that I'm enjoying the NEET life. I have no doubts I could make a better product, since what we had was so absolutely shitty, but my only doubts are being able to market and sell it.

>>106531325
Support is the real issue. You need 1 team to deal with the complaints and another team to manage new updates. Also since we are talking about databases you need integration with tracking systems that they might want to attach to it. It's not a set it and forget it product. From my experience in IT its a shit show needing a product to account for more than just MSP requirements.

>>106531339
I wouldn't mind working on it long-term if I could make into a viable business, even if a solo one.

>>106531378
Consider looking at other productivity products out there (free/open source) then compare it with the paid offerings. Alot of management wants tons of features but easy to use products. I find that nesting which is a webdev issue is a real problem with these products. Either way there is money in it since companies change tracking software all the time or adopt it for really minor usage (non IT/Tech) such as fulfillment requests at a warehouse.

>>106530108
>I live in Indonesia and if you make $250k a year youll own a whole apartment building
where are these deals brokered?

>>106530739
I got my first job (during the post-covid boom, admittedly) with CV that had an interests section, the important thing is it has to be something you're comfortable/confident talking about during an interview.
It's a valid tactic you have no other way to distinguish yourself as a fresh grad

I've decided against quitting
I'll just coast and let them fire me
What's the worst that could happen anyway

>>106528927
WHO WAS PHONE?

>>106531907
>What's the worst that could happen anyway
The worst? That you continue to be invested and work too hard still. Second worst? That they don't fire you and you become increasingly demoralized.
That's where I'm at. My employer is the kind of place boomers go to die and I go back and forth of wanting more growth or just leeching off this for the next 50 years.

>>106531907
I'm at this
>Manager thinks I report to my boss
>Boss things I report to manager
>No one checks on features they asked for well over a week ago
>I'm literally doing nothing
>I didn't even go to the office in the days I was scheduled to
I feel guilty cause they're good people but I also don't wanna work and I know for a fact the company is doing quite well

>>106531907
I survived a massive layoff and honestly my mental state is so shit. What's the point of doing anything when everyone/everything are fucking assholes? Being a productive member of society? Lmao what society?

>>106531993
>>Manager thinks I report to my boss
>>Boss things I report to manager
Who do you actally report to?

>>106531993
Based

>>106532009
Based

>>106532022
We only report to God

>>106532022
I'm supposed to report to my manager I think but I haven't done anything in almost 3 weeks. I used to ask "Hey what can I help with next?" and he'd give me some bullshit task, eventually got tired of having to BEG to work so I just sit and wait (and read books in my googledrive)

>>106531993
>I also don't wanna work
fair and valid
>and I know for a fact the company is doing quite well
Poverty, seething-at-wealthy-people vibes

At least say the company is doing shady stuff like tracking users, or it horribly vain like Instagram net negativing society

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