Thread 106926847

Cancelled edition

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>Keyboard recommendation template:
https://pastebin.com/n220xk9V (embed)

>Find vendors
https://www.alexotos.com/keyboard-vendor-list // Up-to-date list of reputable vendors with brief descriptions
https://keycaplendar.firebaseapp.com // Tracker for current and upcoming keycap group buys

>This keyboard stuff is so expensive!
https://aliexpress.com (or Taobao if you know how)

>Learn about Cherry MX switches
https://rentry.org/mkg_switches // Introductory guide
https://www.theremingoat.com // Switch reviews
https://www.switchesdb.com // Compare force curves

>Split and non-standard layout resources
https://compare.splitkb.com
https://keyboard-design.com

>What does ______ do to a keyboard's sound?
https://blacksimon.tv/science (Google sheet)

>Practice typing
https://monkeytype.com
https://www.keybr.com
https://thetypingcat.com
https://play.typeracer.com

>How Cherry switches do backlighting, and why it's not ideal
https://rentry.org/mkg_backlight

>>106926847 (OP)
I can tell that the tilde is mod color and it's pissing me the fuck off

>>106926862
Yeah I don't really get that either. Putting mod color on pipe or tilde is full retard and so many kits are doing it now

>>106926877
Why do people hate basic aesthetics? Having a gap between tab and esc is dumb.

>>106926862
>>106926877
Sheer fucking autism.

>>106926847 (OP)
Perhaps that's why it got canceled. Looks like a hobo board with the mod color tilde. Boom

>>106927004
Mod colors express mod functionality, which is why they are disgusting on characters like tilde, pipe, and spacebar, which input characters as the alphas do.

>>106927126
Why aren't you complaining about the two tone F keys as well, then.

>>106927167
The rules are different for the f-row and the numpad. On the f-row, alternating clusters make them easier to distinguish visually, and it's just an old convention which is by this point well entrenched. The physical separation from the alpha cluster is what makes it acceptable that it plays by different rules, but if some take issue with this I understand that point of view, obviously.

On the numpad, the numbers are distinct from operators, which are treated as they would work on e.g. a calculator, which is ofc more comparable to mods than to alphas

>>106927192
The mental gymnastics you have to go through to say "okay well these aesthetic changes are fine but I DRAW THE LINE AT TILDE!" is comical.

>>106927240
Listen man you can make your keyboard as ugly as you want it's your keyboard, I'm sorry if it upsets you that I and others think you're a tasteless retard with no respect for agreement between visuals and function, but you're not going to change my mind by accusing me of "mental gymnastics" lol

>>106927260
But, neither are you. You excuse non mod keys being colored like mod keys when they're on the numpad, and you excuse mod keys being colored like alpha keys when they're in the F row.

If your complaint was "I prefer the aesthetics when tilde pipe and space aren't mod colored", then that would've been fine. Instead you tried to make it into a functional issue, which is retarded. I prefer when they're mod colored, makes the board look like a smiley face.

>>106927293
I will leave it to neutral third parties to make up their minds for themselves who is the idiot in this exchange.

The F-row is separate from the main cluster, and they're literally function keys, not alphanumerics. So breaking them up both spacing-wise and visually makes sense, since having a line of 12 very similar looking keys in a row would lead to the user searching for the right key, which would be less efficient.
In the main cluster mods being one color, and the alphanumerics being another makes sense.
If you want a mod colored tilde or pipe key just for visual symmetry that's fine, but it breaks the convention of why those keys are colored the way they are.

>>106927355
Maybe next GMK should start making mod color 1 in all their sets so that these "aesthetic symmetry enjoyers" can break the unity of the numrow in order to perfectly mirror the color of 2u backspace. I wonder if that's a bridge too far even for them. Although I think Gay-for-GMK Tommy Two-Intros would do it in a heartbeat

>>106927192
bet you volunteered to be the hall monitor

>/mkg/ general
>0 discussion about keyboards
guys come on

>>106927934
there is a discussion about mod colors right above your post which you could contribute to, or perhaps you'd like to talk about chinkshit keycap recommendations from aliexpress?

HAVE I BEEN SUMMONE-
>Two-Intros
must be someone else then, for I have a third Intro on the way. Starry black, it's perfect for the KKB Poltergeist. Always wanted to have a purple keycap set that didn't look like gays from outer space.

Also lol at the plebbitor who told me to go for PP with tactiles, I tried it out of curiosity but nothing makes my Melodics feel enjoyable except plain old Alu.

>be right-handed
>try southpaw keyboard for a few months
>it's awful
>go back to regular keyboard
>outside of return window

I don't know what I was expecting and I have only myself to blame.

im not impressed with my keychron v1 browns

Made up a bunch of totem boards into full builds. I have two or three wired and one wireless--what do you guys usually do to sell builds?

anyone ever order from aulas website?

imagine ceramic caps but with see through glass legends

>>106928750
poo switches give poo results

>>106928750
Avoid Keychron and Cherry.

ALUMINUM KEYBOARDS ACT AS SATELLITE DISHES THAT BROADCAST YOUR KEYSTROKES DIRECTLY TO SPACE

WE HAVE BEEN PLAYED FOR FOOLS

>>106929905
they actually shield it like your metal hat. or does your tinfoil acts like satellite dishes sending your thoughts to space?

>>106930020
>or does your tinfoil acts like satellite dishes sending your thoughts to space?
the dish points down, space is up not down, are you stupid?

want to try a topre keyboard. does 100% topre iso variants exist? i can't find one

>>106928737
sell it on ebay

>>106928737
how much you pay for that?
shit's equivalent to 220USD here

>>106929831
>cherry
Keychron Super Browns are not manufactured by Cherry

>>106928737
If it makes you feel any better I committed to buying an even more expensive southpaw keyboard before I discovered this

>>106927906
Running in the hallway violates the calm predictability of the hallway which makes it conducive to safe and steady traffic of students. That this public good, enjoyed by all, should be endangered by the recklessness of a few students is obviously unacceptable. My school had athletic facilities and open fields where a student can run to his heart's content, leaving no excuse to do so in the hallways.

>>106927355
Can you actually touch type the f-keys?

>>106930764
Jesus Christ dude. Never change.

>>106927313
Woopsie
they used mod colors on the tilde on official promo shots
guess that settles it.

>>106931248
This says so much about you that you think this is evidence lol

>>106931256
Tbf it's on one out of several others where the tilde key isn't a mod color but nonetheless, when it works out it works out. The mod color scheme looks good because it's WKL.

After searching high and low, I finally found the Carbon R3 in CDATA. It's Morbin time, bitches!

>>106931383
>Singapore
This all makes a lot more sense now.

Okay this is my final form for real

>>106930138
Not only that but true topre switches don't even exist in modern manufacturing. Good luck finding one of these

>>106930614
About $100 from Microcenter.

>>106931542
Looks like a mix of CYL, SA and DSA profiles. The alphas have all sorts of colours. Now this, this is TRVE individualism. This keyboard has character.

>>106931542
Ohhh lol now I know what this keycap set was supposed to be

>>106931542
Ohhh lol now I know what this keycap set was supposed to be

>>106931785
>The alphas have all sorts of colours.
They all, as far as I can tell, indicate functionality. Dark for what we usually call mods, light for alphas, and a middle gray helps to see the shape of the numpad in the alphas (which, as a hidden-numpad-65% user, I completely understand.) The mod color dot in the numpad is an interesting difference, which does make sense, since it's a bit of an edge case (Is it modifying the inputs that follow, or placing a dot character in the number? Their interpretation makes sense.)

>>106931542
Where is that faggot who says there is no use case for layers now????

Should i get the Ajazz ak820 base black one?
t. thirdie

Hey /mkg/, can y’all help me replace my keyboard?

>Budget
$100 max
>Location
Texas
>Preferred switch type
I have Cherry MX blue switches rn, but I'm not picky. I'm curious to know what /mkg/ prefers.
>Layout
ANSI
>Form factor
80% - 65%; I would get a 60%, but I need arrow keys to game.
>Backlight
Not a fan of any type of backlighting. Would only buy one with backlighting if there's an ability to turn it off.
>Current keyboard
Noppoo Choc Mini 84 w/ Cherry MX blue keys, pic related

Thanks!

>>106932381
Genuinely great take. Thanks, I feel more inspired to mélange up my Half Life board and work something distinctive out.

>>106932829
Check out the Transition Lite. It's from Swagkeys so it's probably decent for how cheap it is.

>>106932829
>I'm curious to know what /mkg/ prefers.
We're constantly fighting with another because we disagree

>Would only buy one with backlighting if there's an ability to turn it off.
There always is. Although some have under-key lighting for lock indicators which can only be disabled with a firmware change (e.g., Keychron)

As for switches, unless you really want it to "sound better" I wouldn't change much. MX Blue has not many fans here but it does do one thing uniquely well and that's its particular sort of tactility which is sharp and small and right near the actuation point. This makes it feel OK for gaming in a way that the other more tactile clickies out there don't.

I'd just get something like this:
https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/products/filco-majestouch-3-tkl?variant=47608032035116
Empty plastic case is good for clickies (not stuffed full of foam). Nothing too fancy here. Double shot PBT keycaps, looks simple but attractive, probably will last a good long time. If $115 is too much money, they have a less popular colorway on sale dirt cheap:
https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/products/filco-majestouch-2sc-tkl?variant=47607774085420

But if black's what you want, it might be better to spend more and get what you'll be happier with.

If you want to try other clickies with a better reputation among keyboard enthusiast types, you could check out 8bitdo's keyboards, which have Kailh Box Whites that use a different click mechanism. They're a little bit gamers○y though

>>106932911
I think it would be hard for him to keep that under budget.

>>106932829
https://kbdfans.com/products/kbdfans-tiger-lite-gaming-keyboard-kit
Need to get switches and keycaps separately.

Probably going to buy the memeboard because roomy, resonant plastic chassis and 2.4ghz wireless. But before I do, are there any keyboards like this in 1800 layout? Wish 8bitdo themselves made that version, but until then, I'll settle for fullsize if nothing else meets those criteria.

>>106933182
>big HEY THIS IS RETRO AND IT IS A KEYBOARD text
totally ruins it

>>106933182
Man that 8BitDo looks trippy, go forth and CONSOOM

>>106933331
I have the Fami version, I am typing with it this very second and I like it. A bit of consumerism isn't a bad thing.

It also came with two comically large buttons, I have no idea what to do with them.

>>106933631
lmao give me those

>>106933541
their numpad is pretty nice. don't really like the keyboards, maybe the TKL with this theme but I'll probably just get the numpad

>>106933182
>>106933631
>>106933682
Who buys this slop. Also surprised Nintendo hasn't tried to sue them.

>>106933735
numpad looks fine. also has a display so you can use it as a standalone calculator. and price is not bad, $40 or smth

>>106933541
I intend to, I just need to know if there's an alternative somewhere that supports the definitive keyboard layout.

>>106933735
They've made straight-up SNES clone controllers before. Newer product designs are more 'inspired by' than 'ripped off from' Nintendo stuff, so Nintendo probably did tell them to knock it off.

>>106933028
$55 + $28 shipping to Texas, assuming no duties charged along the way (big assumption), leaves only $17 for keycaps and switches. That's not even enough to buy 90 Gateron Milky Yellows.

So at a minimum he's going ~$20 over budget, and if he wants actually nice keycaps he's probably going $40+ over budget. And this is assuming he's not buying lube for the stabilizers, or a switch/keycap puller, which together probably add another $10.

>>106933735
I mean, it's a functional keyboard that's competitive in its price range. The fact that the styling borders on being a bit gay doesn't make it "slop"

Aaah I'm LUUUUBING

Anyone order from here? https://vortexgear.store/

>>106934015
Yeah, some people have:
https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/180u2zw/avoid_vortex_keyboards_at_all_costs/

>>106934024
Appreciate it. Will avoid:-)

>>106934035
the tl;dr if you look past the Reddit hysterics is that they are kind of a smallish company in China and it's not feasible for them to be good at doing international returns, and for cultural reasons it's not very important to them to take some extra losses to keep up good reputation. So if you get a faulty product, which does happen unfortunately, it might be a pain in the ass to return it and they'll make you eat some of the costs.

If you want something they're selling, buy it through a local vendor who will accept your returns and be much less painful to deal with. E.g. MechanicalKeyboards.com if you're in the US. If you buy from Vortex directly, accept that you're taking a risk.

On FR4, the KD 200s sound like a vintage typewriter. The heavy Xinhais are somehow more muted than the Sonjas, which is impressive because these are bright and loud on every other plate I've tried.

>>106934015
Yeah, forget Vortex exists. Total shame they made the Model M SSK, the PCB doesn't even curve up like it authentically should.
Vertex is the superior V brand.

>>106934073
>in China
all we need

>>106934119
>the PCB doesn't even curve up like it authentically should.
Yeah they could have tried a little harder lol

On PC, for me, it's the SWK Ghost Dragons.

>>106928737
I just got one, it's weird AF for regular typing but it fucks when it comes to Solidworks.

>>106931556
damn dude I'd give you $100 for it today.

>>106933182
>>106933631
These boards are a cool novelty, but their proprietary config software for layout editing blows (especially since it loves to corrupt layout profiles and macros, and bafflingly lacks some features). If someone can hack these with QMK/VIA firmware, they'd be immediately making these boards far better. They can get fucked for that $500 68-key board they just revealed today though (even if it's fully made of aluminum alloy).
>>106933735
Nintendo did take legal action against them in the late 2010s, when their SNES-style controllers were originally much more blatant visual ripoffs of actual SNES controller designs (they probably crossed the line by making the logo the same font and style as the SNES controller logo). See pic related.
>>106933760
>>106933682
They really fucked up by opting for the calculator on the numpads instead of key remapping. A $40 macropad of this quality would've been a goddamn steal.

>>106934588
>They really fucked up by opting for the calculator on the numpads instead of key remapping. A $40 macropad of this quality would've been a goddamn steal.
me thinks I could respin the pcb since it's pretty basic, and would also upgrade the display to VFD (which is what should have been), and ye also QMK.
someone tried to hack it but they encrypt their shit and no joy
https://skowronski.tech/posts/2025-05-24-8bitdo-numpad-firmware-hackability/

>>106934588
>$500 68-key board
nah, that's a crazy price and having "Retro" on it is pure kitsch

>>106934588
Nintendo are evil fucking pricks lol

>>106934588
Lol are those aluminum keycaps too

>>106934773
NTA but yes. Explains why it's so expensive.

>>106934773
Yep.

>>106934781
>cold to the touch
>sounds bad
Hard to understand why anyone would do this

>>106934790
Trying to find out what sort of coating they're using for the alu keycaps but I'm not finding info on 8bitdo's page. Is it cerakote? Anodizing?

There really is no mouse that can sit and not look subpar next to a norbauer keyboard.

Ceramic keycaps.

Meme, or dream?

ive been using 100% for so long that not ahving that enter key on the bottom right throws my entire computing experience off. I tried a TKL and couldnt do it. tried the 90% but it was just oo cluttered around the arrow keys. it may be a cant tech an old dog new tricks type of thing but i am set in my ways on 100% layout

>>106934840
also curious. if matte then they could stain. if shiny then would look kinda bad but would be easily cleaned

>>106934679
Not surprised at all that they encrypt their shit to hell.

>>106926847 (OP)
where the fuck is the home and end keys???

>>106934840
I don't get it because a decade ago ceramics and metal were considered too hard to type on by basically any material scientistband would hurt your fingers. But all the sudden ceramic is the new high end material to type on :/

>>106935447
if you're going to resort to numpad for nav anyway, what's even the point in having arrow keys at all? that's something I've never understood about 1800 layouts

>>106930705
more expensive southpaw KB?

>>106936134
>what's even the point in having arrow keys at all?
For navigating the excel spreadsheet while inputting numbers with the other hand

>>106936418
>>106936134
This is hard for some people to admit but the best layouts often have some redundancies, because one or the other option is better depending on the context. It doesn't feel as "elegant" but ease of use is the most important thing.

E.g. I have a redundancy on my 65%, which is that I can get escape by pressing tilde with either of my function layer keys, one of which is on the right and one is bottom-left. (They go to different layers, but it's esc in both.) One combination is easier when I'm using both hands, and doesn't involve any awkward hand movement. The other can be done one-handed while I'm using the mouse. Having two options works best.

(I have tilde rather than escape because I like not being able to accidentally press escape while typing 1 or hitting tab.)

In the case of 96%, arrows in the numpad area are useful for when you're using multiple kinds of navigation inputs, because your fingers are in position to use all of them; e.g. while you're selecting blocks of text (end, shift, home, up, ctrl-right, etc). But the dedicated arrows may be simpler when you're doing basic navigation that only requires the arrows, because you don't have to check whether num lock is on. They work even when an application doesn't recognize numpad arrow inputs (some shitty applications treat it as numbers all the time), and they work when you're using the numpad for numbers.

>>106936151
https://typface.com/pages/monospace

Thoughts on the Neo80 CU? Is the bottom acoustic design a meme or is there something new and impressive to it?

opinions on moonlander vs ergodox ez?

already have a dactyl manuform myself, just thinking which would be a better gift for a programmer friend of mine

>>106936736
These days there are tons of split boards with better thumb clusters than the ergodox. The moonlander is one of them. I'd say the dactyl is better than either to be honest.

Updoot!!!

>>106936975
You need to go back.

>>106936975
Why is caps lock upside down?

>>106936975
Extremely cringe and gay please grow up you are no longer a child

>>106927355
The FC660C is a truly amazing keyboard, I hate Leopold for discontinuing it.

>>106937498
Cos it's SPOOKY xDDDD

>>106937880
Looks like a boring office keyboard. Check out Walmart, I'm sure they have it just for uuu UwU

if it takes the designer and their chosen manufacturer a year to make a small amount of what it takes someone else a month or so to mass produce maybe the GB model should be done away with. There are some really nice dye sub PBT sets out there now that feel nicer than the originals sometimes. It's time to stop pretending that these caps cost $200+ because of tooling or availability. Someone needs to start stocking them regularly or they will continue to lose out to Chinese knockoffs

GMKsisters....

>>106938058
When you splash out over a hundred bucks for caps, you aren’t paying for quality, you are paying for a very specific colorway and style.

>>106938064
You're not picking between giving money to a big corporation and saving money to get the knock off, you're choosing not to give money to someone who loves this hobby just like you. Even if the set isn't available as in-stock, clones reduce the chance of further rounds of the set, and generally reduce the desire for designers to design new sets.
Clones damage the hobby in a real way. But there's a whole lot of inexpensive and high value keycaps out there - buy those, not clones.

>>106938058
Chink clone still looks worse, but it's not the first time GMK doubleshots have had wonky legends.

>>106938024
Are you retarded or just AI?

>>106938074
If a cheap Clone manufacturer/vendor offers a product anywhere in the world, 24 x 7, purchasable from the convenience of your personal computer, and the legal vendor says the product has its Group Buy ended, probably wait more than 2-6 months if bought, actually takes more than a year and hope that it delivers and wouldn't get cancelled out of nowhere, and can only be purchased again at another Group Buy round which will be ambiguous when, then the cheap clones from Taobao/AliExpress/Shopee/Amazon is more valuable.

>>106938093
Look.... buy your clones. I don't care one way or the other. It's almost as if you're trying to convince yourself here.... not me LOL. Clones are shit. You'll not change my mind. This is not something that makes the hobby elitist, so stop playing that card. There's a TON of stuff that's not a clone you can buy. If you like a designer's work soooo much, that you MUST have it at any cost... including buying counterfeit versions of it, then that designer deserves to be paid for the work. If you disagree, you're selfish and only motivated by your own needs, and not the needs of others.

This is my final comment. I shall not even read any more replies you make.

>>106938099
You keep denying all of this as a "quality issue" yet disregard how certain manufacturers have become better over the years at producing convincing GMK clones. You're just a bitch in sheep's clothing at this point who tries to stir arguments at first but can't refute anything if pressured too much.
You think anyone wanting the GMK colors in low price are "selfish"? Bro you're a fucking asshole of a human being if you believe in that copium if you're gonna generalize the majority of lower-waged keyboard builders like that. Because not everyone you tried to generalize aren't as bad as you try you demonize with. There are those who are from 3rd World Countries that are interested in this hobby but never had the chance to get their salary to go up higher to go buy OG kits from GMK. You're quick to judge all of this as the fault of those poorer than you who can't get an F1-8X and those sweet GMK groupbuy kits when it comes to the clones, yet you underestimated how this keyboard hobby is becoming bigger and more accessible than you think. Again, this community is not for the bourgeois, its for everybody, and expect clones to become better over time to accommodate easier access to keyboard building as a whole.
You're going to live to see this elitist hobby die, bitch. AI will make any design possible better than community subtards, and GMK will never be remembered by anyone anymore :) sucks to know your overpriced plastic just got devalued hard huh?

Every keycap has a visible sprue mark on its top wall.
These normally sell for $130, and honestly it's the first set I've ever seen with sprue marks. Even on sale for $70, I gotta say I'm disappointed.

>>106938177
That's literall how injection molding works. You can't avoid the sprue, you can only choose where it is.

>>106938177
I'm glad someone else sees it. My clones look just as good and I don't care about the colors not being 1:1 accurate. Only terminally online virgins with no families will buy overpriced plastic.

>>106938182
Clones manage to avoid it just fine. Maybe those German boomers should get with the times or get ridiculed for making a poorer product than $25 chinkshit.

>>106938099
I personally think patents and copyright are BS. Ideas don't come from thin air you use the intelligence passed down and evolve ideas from the past. Patents and copyright destroy innovation. Do you really enjoy how we take down every video that has a 3 second clip from a song in it? It all comes from the same mentality.

Oy vey! Buy GMK goyim! Higher prices, poorer quality, what's not to like?

>>106938281
Wtf does that even mean? Here's your fucking clones, dipshit.

>>106938299
The fact is those designs and colorways are stolen, and when you proudly display them, and then say where you got them and at what price, you’re fucking over the designers just like the people making the clones.

>>106938371
GMK sets really have devolved into 'pick a color' and ride the wave of unlimited demand. Ford makes red vehicles with brown (or whatever) interiors and so does GM and VW and Toyota and every other auto manufacturer. From a 'design' perspective, I don't see keycap designs as being any different in most cases.

Who the fuck buys osume caps? Those shitty soft pink pastels all around make me irrationally angry. Fucking troons

Intellectual property isn't real property, it is a temporary monopoly granted by the government on the theory that it will lead to more innovation if people have a period of time to exclusively benefit from the innovation.

IMO, if you make a product with a limited-time run (e.g. GB), and you don't continue to make it or have plans for another run... then morally speaking you're forfeiting your IP privileges.
if you do a GB and fuxk off, why should you get to stop other people from making the thing you now are refusing/unable to make? In that case you're going against the entire purpose of IP, and the original goal of IP protection would be better served by allowing clones.

In other words... if I am unable to buy a product because no more of them exist, then how am I hurting the designer by buying a clone? They already lost my business by not having a more continuous supply [ which is not necessarily a criticism of them, and yes I understand why they might not, but if they're not actively planning additional production runs then they shouldn't be surprised if people buy clones instead of just... lusting after their unobtainable product]
end of conversation.

>>106938379
for me the biggest reason to buy non-clones is for the novelties icon keycaps and clones rarely make those, look at the pic in >>106938215 the top one is significantly better to me because of them even if they're simple

Kinda feeling beige rn

>>106928737
the issue as always is they put a right handed numpad on the left side, instead of flipping it.

and they all get it wrong, which just shows how retarded most of mankind truly is.

I wish I weren't a disgusting little grease ball and could consider buying ABS without knowing they will be shined in 2 weeks

>>106938773
i had that type of keyboard twice. It sucks to type on because of the keys unfortunately.

I'd like to replace the slippery and shiny keycaps on my old K95 Vengeance with double shot PBT keycaps bearing a grainy texture. What are my options?

I wouldn't mind sacrificing shine-through if I can get a set with a high contrast legend, like a lot of those old white, beige, and gray keyboards. And those grainy keycaps don't ever feel greasy or leave fingerprints. I gotta have those.

>>106938590
Same, I checked out an old Cherry keyboard not too long ago from the attic. Kinda tired of my desk being a black hole.

>>106926847 (OP)
What keyboard/keycaps? Looks classy. I need to know the U on the windows key though.

>>106939402
It's from GMK, look up whichever black set is cheapest.

>>106939258
I know what you mean.

>>106939069
They gave them to us in Special Education as retard proof keyboards but I still managed to break mine. They have an interesting key texture like typing on a cold nipple.

>>106939466
>keycap set is more expensive than an actual full-sized mechanical keyboard with pbt keycaps
wew

>>106939596
Screenshotted & saved to use as proof that keyboard thread posters are retarded

>>106938640
can we agree what a left handed numpad is tho? I get it that it's reversed in southpaw, normally enter should be on the left most column.
but then I see retarded shit like 3 2 1 which is pure nonsense. we write left to right, so it should still be 1 2 3, even with enter on left column

>>106930138
You could get a JIS board, which is somewhat closer.

>>106931542
>true topre switches don't even exist in modern manufacturing
Do elaborate.

I need more beige. It's time to bring Jindos into the mix.

What's a good low-profile 75% keyboard?
Preferably with black switches or something similar (heavy).
Budget would be around 150 euros.

>>106939770
no.
your hand is mirrored.
your index finger is 1(4,7), your middle finger is 2(5,8), ring finger 3(6,9). having to use your ring finger for 1 is unnatural. especially when you're used to it with your a normal numpad. you want the fingers to exactly match. just how a manual shift cars are mirrored in the uk vs us.

>>106940448
>especially when you're used to it with your a normal numpad
lol you're funny anon
ok I'll tell you why, because a left handed person shouldn't be "used to right hand numpad" in the first place. they should use something that should be normal for left hand use, consider someone using a keyboard for the first time as a general example. they have no right hand numpad notion.
thus, 1 2 3 not 3 2 1

>>106939402
The keyboard was cancelled, nobody gets to have one. Don't know the keycaps, GMK something.

>>106939596
Hey I am also retarded. See below:

Can someone explain to me how the knob on this keyboard works? Like as a volume knob? And is it also an escape key?
https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/products/ducky-one-3-sf-cosmic?variant=47608084955436

>>106935434
On H and ;

don't fall for the TMR meme, it's a scam. they're stealing travel distance actuation in return for higher resolution which you won't be that much helpful anyway.
I've seen TMR doesn't have to be under the switch which allows for classical switches to be mounted. but Keychron ceramic one still doesn't allow for classical switches. stay with hall effect

>>106941262
Sorry I'm not buying a tabletop MRI machine

>>106941430
magnetic sensors don't emit anything wat
stay in school kids

>>106940925
It's just a round keycap with the ducky logo on it.

>>106941558
Really? That’s actually gay as hell

I have never felt more at peace with it.

Works just fine with a Norbauer solid aluminum plate. Now it can function wired and wirelessly. Also had enough space for a 3000mAh battery, not sure if I should have gone bigger, I guess I could have, but I expect just with this I'm looking at months on a single charge already.

really can't think of much I can do to make this board any better. I did order a set of those doubleshot PBT Ursa keycaps, but I don't expect them to be as high quality as the realforce caps.Everything is already lubed, silenced, stabilizers adjusted with 3D print parts.....

>>106941703
you should add GPS and 5G to it

>>106941703
Pics of custom stab parts pls
did you make something that mimics Norbauer's $100k stabs?

>>106932829
Me again

I’ve settled on a 67 key keyboard, preferably with cherry mx blue switches
And my max is now $150, since I’m seeing a lot more 67 keys keyboards @ >$100

Ps: love you guys, thank you for the help

>>106939234
I don't know how accessible keycaps are at your end, so here's a bunch of shine-through recommendations that don't cost a bunch:
>Tai Hao C22BK101
>Ducky DKSA108-USPDANNO2
or EPBT WOB for like $50 if you want high contrast legends with no shine-through.

>>106938050
>dye sub is easier to produce than double shot
Wow, some hard-hitting analysis here, good job anon. How will GMK recover?

>>106941960
No its just a normal stabilizer design but LPBF print from nickel silicone bronze, they're super tight tolerance and after tumble and dry film they're smoother than anything else. I have not tried his stabilizers
I guess you gave me an idea, that all switch housings and sliders should be made like this but it would just be thousands of dollars for a keyboard compared to mold injected plastic....

holy fuck CONSOOM

A fren(gf) got a keychron and I liked it, but didn't want to spend that money on it yet. So I got a cheapo chink magnetic kb, and liked it, but I was obviously disappointed about some things, in this one specially the fact that the spacebar stabilizers are pretty shit, and since I don't hit it dead center it starts to pop sideways... But I liked the experience, so I'm trying a "better" chink brand now, Aula? let's see how it goes.
I still haven't found something I quite like on par with my cherry keyboard, the only problem is that it's fuckhuge and the frame is absolute dogshit.

>>106942898
shut the fuck up nigger nobody cares how self-deprecating you are about your obscene purchasing habits, it doesn't make you look self-aware

>>106943044
no you shut up

>>106943044
>>106943150
C-CO-COMBO BREAKER

>>106942979
You are doing it right. Understanding keyboards means standing on top of a corpse pile of shitty Chinese keyboards you tried and were dissatisfied with.

>>106939812
Probably some stupid Leopold argument. Sure there are a lot of Chinese clones out right now that some might not consider "real topre". But you cab still absolutely buy legitimate Japanese made topre boards in real force and hhkb

>>106943551
IF you open up a leopold case, the majority of the components are made by topre. The board even says made by Topre corporation in Japan for Leopold.

>>106941986
get a Keychron K6 HE at that price.
>but muh clicky

>>106941703
>BLE 980C controller wont charge 3000mAh battery over 61%

So Ogre..... think its the chinkmaxxed battery thoughever.

Two down, one to go.

>>106944025
we're going to mars with this thing

What's the point of using traditional linears if HE switches let you adjust your actuation and whatever else? You can have different switch styles in one switch with no moving parts so no need to lube or use fancy cases either.

>>106926847 (OP)
Do you like my new keyboard and keycaps

>>106944403
>with no moving parts
nope. it's with no electric contact. parts still move, else you wouldn't be able to press the switch down.
I'll get a HE keyb next, but there's one downside, you can't have tactile switches since you don't really have control over the range of the press. once the bump gives it goes down. so you cannot really use the whole travel for analog purposes.
but other than the tactile issue, it's clearly the superior option, at least for me. ideally it would support both classical and magnetic switches. which seems to be possible with tmr sensors
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edLfxQKgQtk
but not all companies seem to do it like this, keychron opted just for tmr switches in their ceramic keyb see picrel

>>106940359
I'm going with the Lofree flow lite84.

>>106945170
are the files you use for the pcb open?

>>106945188
Nah, don't have any plans to make them open at the moment. I have plenty of PCBs if you want a set though.

>>106945196
was more curious how hard it would be, within those limitations, to add he to it. but I think I'll first try it with a numpad or something

>>106944517
Bloody hell lol, looks like a character prop from a Stephen King novel.

>>106944067
Orange is such a bitch to work with without lots of gray caps. I should have something better suited for it by next month. Fuck Mars, we're going to Centauri Prime.

>muh keyboard colors matching my panties
why are you gae

>>106945338
:(

Somebody please talk me out of it

>>106945170
Love the lime green contrast with copper switches. Are those Kailhs?

>>106944517
I'm about to ride a dragon dildo while watching femboy hentai and even that keyboard is too gay for me

>>106945427
Oh fuck nvm I thought that ripped up cardboard at the bottom was part of the keyboard's bezel lmaoooo
It's breddy cute now that I see it fml

>>106945439
what the hell is even that

>>106944859
Intredasting choice by Keychron. I thought ceramics were a meme

I think I'm just going to get these and put them together.

>>106945214
The PCB uses the switches being soldered to it to hold it in place, which wouldn't be the case if it was HE. So you'd have to come up with some solution to that. Nevermind everything else you'd need to change for HE.
>>106945442
Tangerines actually.

>>106945467
ye case is also full ceramic, which is weird indeed. still pretty stupid they don't offer classical switches connection on the pcb, should be possible with tmr tech. seems like wasted opportunity but they're probably going for cheapest for them. extra sockets + circuitry complication might cost more

>>106945459
"Naya Create" it is an "ergonomic modular keyboard"

>>106945484
oh they're soldered. hmm...that complicates things. I suppose it would rattle/move around with HE

>>106945457
:)

>>106945490
>$1000

Mostly I want to talk keyboards with Germans, Anglos, Japanese, maybe Jews. Other peoples of Europe, sure, ok. But I have no desire to discuss keyboards with the Han, or the subcontinental, or anyone from "Latin America", etc. This board desperately needs /pol/ flag system

>>106928338
Are they still selling them somewhere, or did you just actually get 3 and the first 2 showed up before it did?

>>106945439
Everything about this looks retarded. What is that, a trackball on one side and a fucking spacemouse on the other? And they're hundreds of dollars to buy just the modules?

You can't use either of those inputs with a thumb, there is no value in putting them that close to the keyboard.

>>106946159
Looks futuristic tho

finally got my first non-mainstream-gaming-brand mech, i'm still waiting for the gateron smoothies i ordered but even with these reaper beobog? or whatever switches its not that bad, sounds much more thonk-y than my razer blackwidow, i guess its the sound dampening stuff

>>106946358
If you want to be futuristic get the svalboard datahand clones.

>>106945910
Vendor had 4 extras left. I got Half Life and Space at first, and I liked how my switches sound and feel in this so I ordered the Starry now.

>>106945601
>I have no desire to discuss keyboards with the Han
they're the only ones pushing the hobby forward in ways krauts and jappos can never begin to. And Anglos? Keyboards? LMAO

>>106946867
Smoothies are gonna be worth it. My Sea Salts are second only to my BSUN Raws. I'm sure the regular Smoothie is equally pleasant to use.

Hey niggas I dont know shit about mechanical keyboards aside from basic stuff and I got about 70$ worth of amazon gift cards and wanted to get a brown switch 60% keyboard. What should I get? I would highly prefer a blue color if that's an option. The reason for a brown switch is because normal mechanical keyboards hurt my fucking ears after typing on them all day.

>>106947945
yeah i checked a lot of like best linear switches to buy etc lists and smoothies were always up there, hope they don't arrive bent or something since they just plop em into a plastic bag from ali

these leobog reaper things aren't that bad though, saw some reviews complaining about wobble or something but I don't see it

>>106947964
I also should add I use windows 10 at least until steam os is officially out. Fuck microsoft im not using 11.

>>106946867
>>106947967
one thing about this keyboard, I never owned a wireless keyboard before, I charged it to 100% before unplugging it, and in the span of like 2-3 hours? it dropped to 90%, noticed it was on brightness 5 put it to 1, but it should not drain this fast right, hope its new battery calibration fuckery and i didn't get a fucked battery, super unlucky with those pieces of shit in all tech

>>106940549
are you pretending to be retarded?

How are Aula Keyboards? I see a few people recommend them here and there.

>>106948140
They just work.

>>106948145
Thats pretty good for the price I think.

>>106947985
Who knows? The only wireless I have is my mouse. For keyboards I have to use wired only. What's the mAh on that keyboard?

>>106948140
They are nice for the price. I like these boards, they're gateway drugs for normies who may not know what they were missing out on. Plus the obvious customization ability for enthusiasts.

>>106948208
its 8000 mah, it should be pretty big
rn its 88%
i'll wait a full cycle or two before deciding if its somehow a lemon i guess

>>106948140
>>106948177
>>106948213
i went with aula over ajazz because it looked just a bit better, from these 100$ with screens hotswap chinese boards, it seems really great so far besides this battery thing and the volume wheel is not as tactile on my razer but it does just werk

>>106948256
>its 8000 mah, it should be pretty big
the specs say 4000 + 4000 mah
whatever that means
but i found a review that complained about the battery life whilst praising everything else and also said that it has only 4000 mah, not 8000, so idk what to think desu, just gonna keep using it for 1-2 cycles and see how it does I suppose

>>106948679
oh apparently it should actually have 2 x 4000

>>106948256
Yeah Aula dunks on Ajazz any day of the week. Hope you find a fix for the battery thing, check if it needs an update or something to stop the drain.

>>106948830
doesn't seem like there's any firmware etc, also this is a pretty new keyboard release i think, on the site they're in "preorder" mode now again i guess they ran out of stock, rn its 85%, not sure if its normal, but yeah i'll wait for 1-2 full cycles before complaining to aula, i have a superlight 2 from 3 months ago that was acting a bit similarly, tons of weird battery behavior in the first few days and it eventually normalized hoping its a case of that

>>106948848
Well shit, if a Logitech behaved like that for 3 months then yeah hang in there.

I can't stand the Melodics anymore. Typing on them after using the BSUN Raw or Sea Salt Smoothie is just a humiliation ritual. I was a lifelong clicker, I once was blind but now I see. Linear chads, you were always in the right.

>>106949140
Linear switches are shit, and have always been shit.

Now you've spent what is probably an absurd amount of money on MX compatible slop, just go get some topres. Rubber domes are the only acceptable type of switch.

>>106949182
Typical exaggerated opinionpost. God bless your Topres if you have them, but I am a linear man now.

>>106949140
As a tactile enjoyer, I don't really like melodics either. To be honest, I don't think any of the modern tactiles/clickies are particularly good, they're all too harsh in their tactility. If you compare them to classic clicky hallmarks like Blue Alps / Buckling Spring, modern switches are absurdly tactile by comparison. The event on Blue Alps / Buckling Spring is pretty subtle. Noticeable, but subtle. I've even hear some people describe capacitive buckling spring as clicky linears. So, yeah, I agree, I would rather type on a modern linear than a modern clicky or tactile switch.

Good morning Topre sisters, how are we on this fine morning?

>>106949114
more like 2 days, and the chief culprit was somehow the cable that came with it was providing bad battery info or something (the extension to the 2.4 dongle), changed it, charged it with a different cable and it started reporting properly, took a few cycles, so I'll wait before bitching, but yeah

If I buy a Lemokey keyboard, will I die?

>>106934588
>They really fucked up by opting for the calculator on the numpads instead of key remapping
That's literally why I bought it. There were a couple other options I saw but none of them had the features of the 8BitDo, or the style. The LCDs were dumb looking, and the calculator mode on one even required holding a button down for five seconds before it worked.

It's fun to have a bit of nostalgic novelty anyway. I can't tolerate a billion useless chochkies like some weebs but this scratches that itch.

>>106948001
if you're from the civilized west we write left to right

>>106950432 me
this is what a southpaw numpad should look like. anyone saying otherwise is simply wrong

>>106950344
can you tear it down and take a photo of the topside with visible display? curious if it can be replaced. has 4 screws under the rubber feet

>>106949608
There are a lot of retards in the hobby who say things like "Cherry MX Brown is shit, get a real tactile like Boba U4T" and I think this attitude affects the switch designers who keep putting out extremely tactile clickies.

They should be trying to figure out how to recreate the feel of an MX Blue in better-sounding switch.

Why does alexotos not lube his switch housing? I tried his method and then went full lube and it's a solid difference, especially since there's poorly applied streaks of factory lube all inside the housing.

>>106947936
>And Anglos? Keyboards? LMAO
Having so much stored-up resentment against the Anglo that you "LMAO" at the suggestion that the makers of the Model M might deserve a seat at the table... lol

>>106950994
I remember like many years ago browns were the #1 suggestion lol my first mech was brown, and compared to linear really wasn't a fan, it was fine but idk, got like reds after and liked it more, never tried blues

>>106950513
>>106950432
so not pretending.
fine.

>>106951191
>no argument
I accept your concession

I think Keychron's left-hand numpad is fine. I don't see any cause for complaint and all your bizarre arguments against it could be used to protest that the entire keyboard isn't horizontally flipped for lefthanded users.

>>106951237
you can do whatever you want. if you like it that's fine. I was talking about the principle of it. if you can use yours then that's what matters.

I'm still right that >>106950513 is the correct form for southpaw numpad

>>106949182
Hear me out.
I used to feel this way linear switches too. I was like "I need feedback on my keystrokes" but....

I have this theory that, "good" leaf-springs, plates, and foam give your linear keystrokes a sort of "pseudo tactile" feel.

>>106951092
>dickriding past achievements
let's see anyone challenge Han supremacy in mechanical keyboards today.

Baby's first keyboard; I'm trying the double row method to save some lanes on my chip. Would bridging via diodes be fine, as in pic rel, or should i rather route each obstructing lane around/above the whole switch?
>tfw i missed SW28

>>106951968
Feedback on linears are already good enough that I type faster, more consistently and confidently, and that makes it enjoyable. Compare this to my Melodics, where the click doesn't help me one bit unless I press my fingers down dead centre on the keycaps. If I don't do that, I don't feel the stupid click perfectly and then I end up skipping the next key. The upstroke is also beastly compared to linears.
As a linear convert, what helped me find responsiveness and muh tactility in linears was trying out different switches and plates and getting a taste of fancy keyboards. My Intro S100s completely shit on my modded M5, and that's because different switches feel way different across different plates. It is absolutely perfect, and I wouldn't change a thing about it.
Clickies need to be deeper without being louder and be capable of being felt more subtly, I never used old school clickies like IBM so I can't compare but these modern-day tactiles are just dumpster fires if you actually use your keyboard to type and not just play gaymes.

Also, the new MX2As are positively mushy compared to the meta linears or tactiles like HMX and Gatreon. It is completely over for Cherry.

>>106952010
Why make it sound impossible? Literally slap some artisan and made in Italy sticker on it and you're probably good enough to have a running three people business. Ironically now might be the best time to do so given one might be able to snatch most of Cherry's old factory. Heck, make a whole retro "scratchy" line out of that, while you're toying with new products.

>>106951968
Just sounds like cope to me. The force curve is all that matters.

now that magnetic switches solved keyboard switches, how do we add taptic feedback on each switch?

>>106933182
How do you write "O" using the blood type keys?

>>106947936
You are completely dismissing the importance of the membrane keyboard by brushing off anglos like that. Membranes were an achievement in durability and affordablity. It is still the bar in which all keyboards are judged against this day.

do people actually find it hard to type on split keyboards. The non ortholiner layout where the keys are in the exact same place. My current ghetto split keyboard setup is just two regular keyboards plugged into my computer and I put a hand on each one. Trying to upgrade to a real one but they're all so expensive ;\

>>106950673
Here ya go

>>106952323
yeah but I need dat poppy clack and creamy thock fr fr

Mechanical switches complicate shit way too much I don't wanna adjust my fuckin actuation force when I'm already used to one

>>106952120
Any han tactiles that come even close to ergo clears yet?
>inb4 zeals

>>106952408
Then what are you doing here?

>>106952343
I do. I move my keyboard around alot and am never able to get the splits exactly in the same spot. It's only minorly discombobulating tho.

>>106952424
The evo75 does but you need like the whole kit and cobootle for them to feel good, the amber switch feels like trash on other boards

>>106952010
Supremacy in manufacturing, not in design.

>>106952343
What the fuck anon that is the most retarded thing I've ever heard

What are you even trying to accomplish with dual-welding keyboards like that

>>106952120
>meta tactiles like Gateron
Lol. Maybe when they can get them to stop double-typing.

>>106952562
I know I'm actively shopping for replacements. I'm on a weird desk and it's the only way I can have my arms in a normal position. The Mistel Barocco looks interesting and it's not outrageously expensive.

>>106951968
haha that's so batshit, I love it. Pls give me an example of one where you feel this is true

for me it's Gateron G Pro 3.0 white linear with 38g actuation, I would go lighter if I could find one. I love that I can just barely tap each key. ~135wpm

>>106951011
Full lube is just too much desu. You should either do just your housing or just the stem, unless you're lubing with something like 3203/3204 where it's thinner, then, sure, go for it. I would never do 205g0 all over everything.

>>106952436
Magnetic** mb

>>106952583
Yeah that thing is a piece of trash. I mean tho if you need splits because of a weird desk then you gotta take the L and buy whatever. But yeah good splits start at 250. If you can try to save for an ergodox, qk Alice duos or if you have skill buy a dactyl kit

>>106952562
Not him, but part of the reason split keebs are good is you can have a wide stance and can remove any wrist deviation. 2 full-size walmart keyboards can accomplish the same thing for a fraction of the price of an actual split keeb at the cost of using a lot of desk space and looking stupid

>>106952933
>>106952562
forgot pic

>>106952630
The rainy75 with HE gaytron Jade Pros. When you get that raindrop thock the whole acoustic profile of the board reverberates into your finger and it feels tactile. It could also be something to do with HE switches?

>>106952933
I also like it when I'm traveling and need to do a long session with my laptop. I can put each side of they keyboard on opposite sides of the laptop and move my arms out.

>>106952829
I'm conflicted on if I want to spend a lot though. I don't want to spend $300 on a split keyboard and then have it break when I throw it in my backpack.

>>106952547
>not in design
cope

>>106952665
Based.

>>106953024
Oh yeah the dactyl is too fragile but the Alice duo is a metal brick box that is made for transportation pretty sure it comes with a case

>>106952698
oh no, not 205, I'm using 107 for the spring and 205 elsewhere. There's streaks of uneven lube in the housing already so might as well give it all an even coat now. If it wasn't pre-lubed like this, I would have stuck with the alexotos method but really a lot of switches come pre-lubed these days so might as well do the full job properly.

kinda want to try an analog switch keyboard - full iso layout would be ideal. what's the word on the ducky one x series? i think i checks many marks. really the only thing i don't love is that is has no cable routing channel.

>>106953263
oh yeah, i forgot. even though it's hot swappable i think it's only compatible to ducky's own propriatary switch. think i heard of some other brand's analog board being compatible to regular mechanic switches as well.

>>106953623
average browns fan

>>106952058
So, uhm. Bump?
I assume it's >doesn't matter, but i rather ask.

>>106954631
Seems fine to me. Of course you should budget in a prototype board, and possibly a revision in case there's something you missed.

>>106953293
that's inductive tech, kinda new, their software sucks balls (from what I know) so cannot use all the tricks that you can with keychron or wooting analog switches. I wouldn't get the x at this point. plus I think it's plastic or some shit, and expensive for what it is.
the inductive switches need the coils built into the pcb under the switch, so no room for classical switches. fun65 has both tmr and classical switches.

>>106926847 (OP)
Do I just spray paint my keyboard with acrylic black to get a coarse finish to match the keycaps? My plate is brushed aluminum.

>>106954829
For anything that comes into contact with my hands a lot I don't love the idea of using paint

>>106954829
Fuck no, enjoy the sexy brushed 'luminum aesthetic.

Is there a hierarchy of different TOTL keyboards across different layouts? I see pieces of shit like the Zoom TKL being hyped up and then I also wonder what boards exist that I don't know about.

>>106954829
Painting the plate is probably fine, but I wouldn't paint the case.

>>106954829
nah acrylic will scratch like crazy if you constantly touch it. I used it on a switch plate and worked fine. you need to electrochemically treat your case if you want nice finish. or paint but will look like shit.

membrane is superior

Is the Model M and ergonomic design? Are the keys at the optimum angle? Would it benefit from a mousepad?

h>>106955072
>time 15
do you make any money tho monkeyboy

bros dumb question but wireless keyboard owners, whats the most convenient way to have a cable ready to plug in asap when you wanna charge your keyboard? Should I get one of those USB extender hubs like my wireless mouse has where the 2.4 dongle rests in it and when its time to charge you simply unplug it from the hub which is on the corner of the desk and into the keyboard within like 3 seconds? I don't wanna fiddle with cables too much every time its time to charge back of my PC is a mess and the cable will stick out if it goes to the front

>>106955143
no i am posting on 4chan

>>106955123
No standard row-staggered board is ergonomic.

damn cherry blues and their equivalents are the worst

>>106955176
As ergonomic as a non-dactyl or whatever the hell board can be, anyway.

>>106955145
>all usb hubs I found have short cables
what the fuck
my PC tower is like 0.5 meters from my desk top i need one with a longer cable ffs

>>106955289
even I'm bigger than that...

>>106955145
Just plug it into your phone charger while you are sleeping every few weeks

>>106955346
is that safe that won't fuck up something will it, it'll keep working in 2.4 wireless mode while it's charging off a wall charger too?

>>106955378
Ugh what is your wireless keyboard?

>>106955452
it's the aula F108 I posted about earlier
I just got some from the wage cage and I don't wanna jinx it but the battery drain seems better than when I first got it this morning

>>106955157
membranesisters.. not like this

>>106955477
>some
home*

Sea salts lubed on PP feel so good man, like typing on marshmallow clouds. Fucking godlike 12/10 typing experience ah holy fuck

>>106954797
thanks

>>106955477
That's just a 5v so yes you can plug it into anything without harming it

>>106942979
Got the replacement in the mail today. It's an Aula WIN68HE MAX or something like that.
It's noticeably better, although the springs are super soft, I prefer the extra stiffness of the cherry blues. I do miss the tactile feel of the blues, but I guess that point is moot with a magnetic switch that records through the whole actuation length.
It comes prelubed for pleasure, but some keys are not quite there, so I will take it appart and relube. I have a set of keycaps coming in too.

>>106948140
This is an Aula, so far the expierence is good. Is it the best keyboard I've tried? No, there's better of course. Is it good for the 40 something bucks it goes for? Absolutely.

>>106952343
>>106952945
I just put my keyboard very deep into my desk (my desks are always on the deep size) that way my hands don't do that. That said it's still not optimal but better than weirdos typing with their arms floating and close to the edge of the desk.

>>106954720
Thanks for the second call.

Guys new bread pls

I will make the thread but I don't know if I can find a board classy enough to be a good thread title @_@

Forgive me.... I can understand if you sage it.... my taste in keyboards is pathetic....

>>106956118
>>106956118


>>106956118

>>106948704
How in the hell would anyone complain about 8000mAh, that's months of battery unless you have the world's most inefficient board with no auto sleep, world's most draining LED's, and some other ton of nonsense. I thought 3000mAh was overkill...

>>106955693
>I just put my keyboard very deep into my desk (my desks are always on the deep size) that way my hands don't do that
you're probably rounding your shoulders forward quite a bit then