Thread 107055317

smogasboard edition

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>Keyboard recommendation template:
https://pastebin.com/n220xk9V

>Find vendors
https://www.alexotos.com/keyboard-vendor-list // Up-to-date list of reputable vendors with brief descriptions
https://keycaplendar.firebaseapp.com // Tracker for current and upcoming keycap group buys

>This keyboard stuff is so expensive!
https://aliexpress.com (or Taobao if you know how)

>Learn about Cherry MX switches
https://rentry.org/mkg_switches // Introductory guide
https://www.theremingoat.com // Switch reviews
https://www.switchesdb.com // Compare force curves

>Split and non-standard layout resources
https://compare.splitkb.com
https://keyboard-design.com

>What does ______ do to a keyboard's sound?
https://blacksimon.tv/science (Google sheet)

>Practice typing
https://monkeytype.com
https://www.keybr.com
https://thetypingcat.com
https://play.typeracer.com

>How Cherry switches do backlighting, and why it's not ideal
https://rentry.org/mkg_backlightr

tfw no low profile split 75% keyboard with staggered rows

1. Beige is disgusting, looking
2. Full Keyboards are for trannies
3. Topre boards are membrane boards
4. cherry MX switches are trash
5. The wire on your keyboard acts like an antenna, and broadcasts your keystrokes in a 300 meter radius.

>>107055527
>Beige is disgusting, looking
Funny, the whole advantage of beige is it doesn't look disgusting when it's not cleaned once a week, whereas black gets dusty and white gets grimy. In the most literal sense I would say retro gray is one of the least "disgusting" colors.

>Full Keyboards are for trannies
I did some trans keyboard investigations once and it's true a lot of them use full-size (although, honestly, I couldn't discern a difference between tranny keyboard taste and anyone else's). I think the simple fact is that men like full-size boards, whether they wear dresses and call themselves "Alice" or not.

The other three provocations aren't really worth replying to

Why is it so hard to find 100% cases, are numpads really that unpopular?

>>107055760
Once you've tried anything less wide than a full-size it's hard to go back to having your alphas so far to the left. (t. using my full-size right now after using my 65% for a few weeks)

I think a lot of people eventually move on to one of the many other numpad layouts like 96%, 1800, 60% + numpad, XT, southpaw numpad, etc. With that said, there are some 100% boards coming down the pipe. E.g. geekhack DOT org/index.php?topic=125346.0 this one's "95% done" the final round of prototypes, so likely getting a GB soon

What is the modern equivalent to Micro Switch hall effect switches?

>>107055760
Yeah, there really is no use case for numpads anymore. The only people who still need them are Excel and CAD specialists.

>>107055899
Also keep in mind you can do numpads accessed via layers. I need a numpad for all the alt codes I've memorized so I use this layer when I'm using my 65%

I want to build a keyboard that sounds like those old green alps. Every video result I have gotten on YouTube for how to get bassier sounding boards looks incredibly homosexual though, and the result is something that sounds like a tap dancing floor rather than a keyboard, all the switches they choose sound the same like that too.

how long until i can get a tmr dactyl
that would literally be an endgame keyboard for me

>>107056012
When you design it yourself.

>>107056179
You legit need to have 200iq to get tmr to work

>>107056201
Good luck, anon.

Anything over 42 keys is bloat.

Anyone ever used a Logitech G413 SE, if so how was it?

Haha! New GOAT stabilizers! If you can't find Knight V4s in stock, these are the ones you should go for!
>>107055527
Absolute shitpost.
>>107055760
I recommend the Intro S100 if you can still get one! I got three! Might even get a fourth! Hahahaha!

Should I try out the LICHICX Raw Silent Switches (Tactile-P variant)?

are there any good split, ergonomic keyboards that have the same number of keys as a standard TKL or more?

>>107055952
Layer mapping ftw. I mapped the numpad over the regular numbers, though your layout activates my neurons so thanks mate

>>107056434
Go for it. I haven't tried the tactiles but the lichicx silent linears are good switches.

>>107055952
>789 not on 789

>Left sided numpad
Opinions? Seems great for data entry where UI interaction is frequent and gay

imagine being at keyboard

>>107057068
YAGNI

>>107057120
Better than being at soup.

what is thee best gaming laptop

keyboard

>>107056434
I think they're pretty good. They're very scratchy though. Coming from Cherry I was fine with that, some people dislike it.

>>107057216
Indeed

>>107057180
Wooting he80 easy

>>107057447
jesus christ that is sexy ty

>>107057447
>>107057517
can I keeb you in the pussy?

>>107057544
why you have a challenger?

Tips for picking up girls at the keyboard meetup later this month? Thinking of getting a 40% maybe

>>107057689
Show them your gherkin

>>107057544
>tfw there is a space bar on my desk wrapped in tissue paper that has been inside my vagina

>>107057839
Is it 6.25u or 7u though?

any good transparent keycaps for pic related? can't see shit at night with the leds on

>>107057967
>can't see shit at night with the leds on
turn the LEDs off

>>107058076
can't see shit with the leds off either, I need translucent keys

>>107057967
>good
>transparent
Pick one.
Get a nice lamp instead.

>>107057967
learn to type correctly and you won't need the light

>>107057967
There really isn't such thing as "good" transparent. Imo it's best to lean into the cheesy cheapness of them and buy womier pudding keycaps.

>>107058424
ended up buying the cheapest with translucent fonts, fuck it

>>107058463
That's probably the best, when you need transparent keycaps you are in a lost situation and should just buy whatever is cheapest, it's a "lipstick on a pig" category

Need to buy a couple sets of switches so I can suss out which kind of linears I like, ideally on opposite sides of the spectrum and maybe a third in the middle. Any recommendations/current favorites?

>>107058966
Bro they are linear, they all have a linear force curve. It doesn't matter.

But if you really care look at the last thread, a few lists of meme linear switches are there

>>107058966
You can get a switch tester.

>>107055527
Absolutely mindbroken and obsessed tranny% cuck.

>>107059409
>T- owns a full Keyboard like a good tranny

>>107057967
Try the "milk fog" keycap set.

http://amzn.com/dp/B07JR7MC47

I got a new PB on 60s yesterday. 71wpm still sucks but maybe I can get close to 100 by the end of the year.

>>107059555
FullsizeGODS aren't subhumans like tranny% larpers are, try again.

Has anyone here tried the GMK104? It's the only other readily available 100% that looks like it's worth even trying, it's just Redragon and Keychron stuff otherwise, the latter of which I'm already tired of.
I regret not getting an S100 when its group buy was still going, and there's no other interesting 100% GBs going on it seems.

>>107058966
Get MX Blacks and then get something opposite to that (some kind of smooth factory lubed long pole short travel switches with a light spring)

>>107059647
Good luck. Make sure to do some 3000-word practice sessions

>>107059710
>This dude with a numberpad doesn't know he is larping as a data entry salary man from the 80s

>>107059800
>FOTM anime pic
Yep, 110% a tranny larper. A nerve was struck, it seems.

>>107059727
Just be patient and get one of the upcoming boards like the Class100.

>>107059832
Ok Mr tranny expert, PhD in transology over here examining my every transmotion writing his transthesis

>>107059912
Two tranny% boards and one unfortunate GODsize one, the odds are NOT in your favor with that pic troonbro. You just proved me right.

>>107059958
Holy crap you are a Sherlock, I cant hide it from you. I am a straight up tranny man, thats why I know full boards are Trans boards

>>107059844
I'm just not a fan of it not having the 4 keys above the numpad like the original it's based on, and opting to put a badge there instead. It's a shame, because it's an otherwise cool looking board. I don't even mind badges all that much, especially if they were placed elsewhere, but it also really clashes with its aesthetic.

>>107060009
You seem pretty upset about your poor choice of images biting you in the ass. Oh well, better luck next time on your attempts at owning GODsize Kings, trannybro. You'll rent-free post about us unprompted next thread, too.

>>107060083
im on a cross site mission to label full size boards as the new tranny board :3 ive been on this mission for months with some success

My real enemy is the number pad

>has tranny pics saved to his device
>says he isn't one
Curious! Least retarded and afflicted by cognitive dissonance tranny% advocate.

>>107060055
first off, you're posting pics of the badge before the redesign, so that's not what it's going to look like

and secondly, if you're going to be this picky, you're never going to buy anything lol

>>107060253
I actually didn't know they were planning on redesigning parts of it, I just checked the form and it seems they're likely set on doing just what I said for the badge.
>if you're going to be this picky, you're never going to buy anything lol
Yeah, it's an issue. Truth be told I'd have probably stayed content with my old Logitech G910 years and years ago, if Logitech's quality actually matched their prices, and if they didn't kill LGS for GHUB. I recently found out how annoying it is to make macros on VIA compared to LGS or even Synapse that did specific things, like repeating an input/macro for the duration you're holding a key. Very niche uses these days, since I don't game that much anymore, but it was definitely quite annoying and had me wanting to go dig up my G910 lol
Detachable cables ruined me, though. I just can't go back to gaymer shit unless they de-shittify their software, make their boards hotswap, etc., which is still an issue to this day since many like having their own ecosystem and not letting you service them.
Thanks for the heads up though, I'll be keeping an eye on that one for sure with that information. Now if only we could get some info about the Zoom 109/Max, soon.

>>107060250
Anon...you cannot read :3 I am literally a tranny and told you that twice. You need to get your head checked buddy. Just in case you still don't understand. I. Am. Trans. Gender.

So mindbroken he's just ironic shitposting now.

>>107055527
>The wire on your keyboard acts like an antenna
USB-C cables are shielded, they have differential pairs. Maybe micro USB cables are shit.
Also metal keyboards shield everything just fine, especially with a metal plate on top. That's why they have to move the wireless antenna out of the metal case, else it doesn't work.
>>107055645
>>Full Keyboards are for trannies
This is a trannie psyop

>>107055901
kinda defeats the purpose. micro switches have no travel. hall effect switches are no contact switches. plus the microswitch has small travel distance, hall effect have some minimum range required for detection

>>107055909
I use it once in a while when I use the calculator app. I'll probably get a 75% + a separate numpad

>>107056201
nah just trial&error
any example chips that are used in recent keyboards? they have analog outputs so you mux them into ADC of micro, probably similar to what they're doing with HE

>>107057068
>Intro S100
that numpad layout is for right hand, not left hand. you need enter + - on left side of the numpad

>>107060356
>you need enter + - on left side of the numpad
No you don't

>>107060361
um yes you do. you press enter (for =) on the edge of the keyboard

>>107060319
I don't get all this concern trolling about ne'er-do-wells (and feds) using such roundabout methods to spy on you. PCs and pretty much every OS has backdoors built into them for feds to let them into your shit if they really want to.
Like, has no one even paid attention to any news or politics in the last several years either? They can easily make you a target by seizing your shit, breaking into it with ease and dumping all kinds of incriminating shit into it if they want. That's if they're nice enough to leave you alive, too.
Like ffs, Hollywood had mercs larping as NZ cops raid Kim Dotcom's house in a foreign country to kill him due to his piracy site being popular as fuck, and Dread Pirate Roberts had literally dozens of feds larp in a library to catch him.
What the fuck is worrying about cables and vibrations going to do there?

>>107060319
Usb-c cables are NOT shielded. TEMPEST-QUALIFIED keyboards use DINs and PS2 connectors. USB is practically invented to be spied on. Secure keyboards that use USB use end-to-end encryption.

And no, keyboards act like satellite dishes, they need full metal casing above the pcb too.

>>107060387
>you press enter (for =) on the edge of the keyboard
Totally arbitrary and unimportant. You might as well move esc to the upper-right corner too because "it needs to be on the edge of the board". Made-up requirements from an infirm mind

>>107060462
>Usb-c cables are NOT shielded.
wtf you talking about you moron?

>>107060476
completely not arbitrary and of major importance. right hand "feels" the enter on the edge. just like that on the left it needs to feel the enter on that edge. + and - as well. I am right and you are wrong, deal with it

>>107060342
I have one of these guys in a box somewhere kek, was never able to get it output anything but jitter on my raspberry pi :(

>>107060482
NTA but it depends on cable, and you have so much chinkshit cables out there that probably don't have proper shielding.

>>107060482
Shut the fuck up and stop pretending you know shit retard. Research TEMPEST EMSEC keyboards. See all the bullshit they go through to make your cable not act like am antenna

>>107060495
top kek that's a current measurement chip lmao
plus that bitch is huge af they use one for each switch. what you have is using TMR to read the EM field of the loop carrying the current, to measure the current in it. kek

from what I've seen in keyboard photos, it's something small like this:
https://www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/multidimension/TMR1208S/14301746
https://www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/coto-technology/RR122-1A22-511/11624737
not these particular ones, but this kind of chip. not sure how tf they read them. I'll see when I get my HE keyboard.

>>107060505
so get a fucking proper USB-C cable then
>>107060538
that's glowie paranoia standards, don't mean your phone will sense your fucking keyboard wire. if you a glowie doing glowies shit idgaf about your dramas

>>107060250
What a beautiful beast.

>>107060493
More arbitrary metrics to support a completely arbitrary convention.

>>107060546 me
https://youtu.be/-ACzdexrGgM?t=126
for example here, the chips seem something smaller with more pins. they might have an enable pin, which comes from micro to each of them, and all feed their outputs into micro ADC line. so micro just enables each in turn, reads their voltage output and turns them off and moves to next one. there's also some sot-23 packages once every few chips, have no clue what those are for.
there's also QMK files for HE line from Keychron, so those may be revealing as well. but it's not rocket science for sure

>>107060595
and HE is simpler since it measures on vertical axis, to chip, so has to be right under switch and it all works out fine.
TMR reads field change on one of the horizontal axis, and placement is also to one side on the switch footprint. that might be some trial&error thing. so best bet is to clone the arrangement and use the same chip from a TMR keyboard, just to know you'll get something out of it when switch actuates.

>>107060595
>sot-23 packages
ah that's the diode for normal switches.

>>107060538
Canada developing that shit is so funny. Canada does absolutely nothing to stop Chinese spies from participating in everything, because that would be racism. But they have a huge problem with leaking sensitive info, so uh... we need better, um, shielding, on our devices

>>107060546
Lmao I know its not the same thing as the switch. I was using it as a proof of concept, to get any unidirectional, bidirectional, or just a zero point working.

Im simply not high Iq enough to get the sensitivity or zero point to work :(

So fucking hot.

Copper. So hot right now. Copper.

>>107060838
f1-8x v2?

>>107060692
if you got the 50MR version that's a +/-50A chip. so it has 20mV/A sensitivity. gotta push 5A through it so you measure 100mV. use like a car headlight filament bulb with 12V, those are like 65W or something.

>>107060846
why not tungsten?

>>107060872
Geon only. No one else stacks multiple copper bricks like that.
>>107061036
There's always a next time.

>>107055527
>namefag
>(X) are for trannies
>(Y) is trash because of {missing explanation}
>continues to be obsessed with trannies
>refuses to elaborate further
>leaves to get raped by tranny cocks

I like the Sonja HC but the stems are really not QC-certified. Some of my switches just won't hold the keycaps snugly in place. A few of these bad ones are something else, the keycap just slides all across the visible stem cross with absolutely zero pressure. Just slides down like a stripper.

>>107062103
What kind of key caps are you using?

>>107062521
GMK

Wow

Oof

>>107060846
>here I why I stack copper instead of gold

>>107060551
Yes anon, it means your phone will litterally read your keyboards RF radiation, in pic related they didn't even need that, the accelerometer on your phone can read your keystrokes.

Watch this video on keyboard vulnerabilites. Your USB cable is readable with phone hacks, and inexpensive radio antennas by up to 30 meters.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KeNBWILSlC4

>>107060313
>*she

>>107061036
t-t-y 200iq anon I might try digging up that tmr sensor and giving it another shot

>>107064383
lying faggot. they did it in 2008 with ps/2 and usb cabled keyboards. ucb-c was introduced in 2014, and it's shielded. and they could "theoretically" do it from 20m.
you are implying they can do it on usb-c keyboards from another building or some shit, which is nonsense.
brainlets should be allowed access to information, they fuck up the conclusions

>>107064464
>brainlets should be allowed access to information, they fuck up the conclusions
*shouldn't

>>107064464
THEY LITTERALLY DO A USB CABLE IN THIS VIDEO fdjuoisafhndkjsalhfbkjdsalhbfdksabhfgckjdsaalgbfhjksdalgbfhjsdakbfhdsajk

>>107064480
THEY DID IT WITH A FUCKING MICROPHONE YOU MEGATURD, not radio emissions from the fucking cable.
and even if they can do it on cable, they can on older micro-usb or shit cables that are no removable, even if USB. they are not USB-C. USB-C has differential pairs motherfucker, and they are fucking shielded

Nope, he. Always sad when shitposting retards just resort to ironic shitposting when they get BTFO, but I get it, it must be embarrassing as fuck self owning yourself so hard, like showing you have troon pics saved on your device after crying about troons and GODsize keyboards earlier.
GODsize KINGS stay winning and also stay living rent free in subhuman's brains, as always!

>>107065019
Wilco!

>>107065019
everybody knows 75% is the best format, by far. but I'd get a separate numpad

>>107065019
nice retro tranny board

Why don't more manufacturers try 7 (8) row compact (15U wide) tenkeyless layouts?
They don't actually need to make the F-row retarded 0.75U if they move normal 1U delete above F12.

I want haptics in my physical keyboard.

>>107065599
same

>>107065599
I put rumbles motors on my keyboard, so that it would rumble when I took damage in WoW. But it was very disorienting. My hand would have a hard time figuring out where WASD was

>>107065902
nta but I'd like one under each switch. something like this seems like it would fit:
https://youtu.be/3neZaqT3vFA
I think you drive these with basically audio so you'd need like 80 something channels amp for them. would be cool tho

i paid about £30 for a g915. it's my first mechanical keyboard. sure it's better than what i had before, but i'd be incredibly annoyed if i had paid even close to full price for this thing.
>entire keyboard is bowed and doesn't lay flat
>horrible pinging from keys occasionally
>one of the numpad keys occsionally double-presses
>coating on certain keys beginning to chip off

what other mechnical keyboard brands are basically scams so i know to avoid them in the future

>>107065967
>i paid about £30
you could get a new one on aliexpress for those moneys

>>107065353
*80%
fixed

>>107066174
I was thinking about that format but 75% makes it smaller, and gives up two keys. one if you get a key instead of knob. 80% -> 75% is quite smaller for not much loss in keys.

Yep, he's still mad.
>>107065353
Nope
>but I'd get a separate numpad
though you aren't irredeemable, at least.

>>107066304
actually you do lose print screen pause and scroll lock but only print screen counts as a key

>>107066343
80% boards just look and feel better. The uncut right shift key and the space between the arrows, mods and f row are all worth it over a 75%.

Once you force yourself to use a 75% you'll end up wanting a trannyboard like all the 65% retards who fellate Thermal and Kohaku.

>>107065985
i thought i was getting a deal tb h.
is this thing any better than one of those sub 50 chinkboards? like i said, i've never had another one so i've got nothing to compare with.

tb h i dislike thinking about this keyboard stuff. i'll probably keep using this despite my greivances, but should i just get one of those topre things eventually and never think about switch types ever again?

how would you arrange mappings such that ctrl+win+arrows do not involve more that 2 secs to achieve? I find it hard to not have at least 4 keys pressed at the same time assuming an additional layer is needed, I make heavy use of workspaces in both win and linux so I don't think i can easily achieve it on this type of meme keyboard, any thoughts?

>>107066566
https://docs.qmk.fm/features/tap_dance

>>107066439
Just get a Rainy75 and don't come back.

>>107066637
t bh if you recommend trash to me it's more likely that i'm going to come back
i'd prefer not to come back
i'd like to filter this general ideally and just use one keyboard for a decade

What are some decent cheap silent switches for a work environment?

I use gateron browns at home. I'm not a fan of linears and dislike any tactiles heavier than browns. I don't mind stronger tactility as long as it's not too prominent. I'd just buy silent gaterons but I'm too cheap to fill an already cheap keyboard with them. Outemu has a bunch of cheap silents and idk if they're any good.

>>107066670
Getting a topre keyboard while not giving a shit about keyboards is like buying a graphics card while all you do is browse the internet. The rainy75 is the King of "I don't give a shit about keyboards rec me a good board"

>>107066932
Just buy O ring dampeners, they generally work really well with gateron browns to make them less noisy

>>107066395
>>107066434
For me it's that blend between 75% and TKL where you have a 2x3 nav cluster. You still keep a stabilized right shift, less space goes to waste, you only lose one irrelevant key like pause, page up/page down are more accessible from arrows and the space lost on R4 is just an excuse to use a 6U spacebar which actually gets you closer to some symmetry instead of right hand modifiers being way too far over from where your right hand actually rests on home row.

I think that's objectively better than TKL and 75%. The only complaint I can see against it is some people might not aesthetically like arrows being vertically offset by something like 0.25U compared to the rest of the board.

>>107066932
>dislike any tactiles heavier than browns
>I don't mind stronger tactility as long as it's not too prominent
huh? browns are basically linears

>>107066932
Outemu Lime V2 Silent

>>107066932
Outemu Lime V3 Silent

Thikky thokkk skateboard trikkky rokkkkk bros why are people abandoning our clicky clock for silent switches.....?

>>107068001
Silent thocks so good tho

>>107066932
>I'm too cheap to fill an already cheap keyboard with them
Any idea you have about "an $x keyboard should have $ax switches and $bx keycaps" is an arbitrary mental barrier to making the keyboard you want. You can put $150 keycaps and $60 switches on a $40 keyboard. There's no rule that says you can't.

>>107063255
>>107063262
These both MTNU? Post pics of them on a board bro.

>>107068001
Because non-buckling spring clicky switches suck.

>>107065019
case?

Are Cherry MX Silent Red switches still any good or are there better, cheaper options now? Thinking of replacing my old scratchy red board with them, unless I should just lube them instead.

>>107068893
Gateron gecko or lichicx silent linears are both much smoother & quieter silent linears. The bottom out is also less mushy on those two than a typical silent linear. I'm sure there are other good switches that I'm leaving out too.

I just saw a number pad and it made me want to light a homeless man on fire

>>107059912
What's the name of the bottom left keyboard?

>>107069177
https://github.com/coseyfannitutti/discipline

>>107068893
Silent linears can be scratchy. Avoid Lichix for example (if you care about that)

>>107069630
The lichicx lucy's I tried didn't feel scratchy, are the regular ones really that different?

>>107068883
It's not a case for the MX platform of switches, if that's what you were hoping for. It's a reproduction of the IBM Model F keyboards in the style of the Model M's case. Specifically a 122 key.

>>107069654
I don't know, I only have the raw silent tactiles. And I've heard people say they don't like the scratch on the Lucy.

>>107068001
What's a thock anyway
all I know is clack and clack sucks
I want something special

>>107068893
>>107068907
Lichicx is dead. Their successor is called WEKT and is making Lucy V5 switches, which are available on AliExpress and unikeyboards

>>107070710
Got a link to the ali listing? I'm not seeing them by just searching 'wekt lucy'.

>>107068907
But I want the mushy bottom out. I fucking hate the hard plastic on plastic feel.

>>107070710
Sounds like cope to me.

>>107070843
>mushy bottom out
that is just so gay man
no wonder this hobby is a a troon magnet

>>107070843
Less mushy is the key phrase here. It's not as hard as a non-silenced switch, but it's also not as soft as silent alpacas or cherry's silents.

>>107070865
Hm, I guess they might be worth a try then. The number one reason I went for silent reds wasn't even the reduced sound but just that I hate the hard clack of most mechanical switches.

>i am tranny
>you need to get your head checked
Lmao. Rope.

Cheapest 100% ansi boards with gateron red switches?

>>107071076
Idk man

Hell. Yeah.

>>107071076
Just buy a 100% red dragon board and put gateron reds in it

>>107070904
Bro I said that 2 days ago you can stop seething now

Why is Hipyo tech so freakin awesomesauce?

>>107072640
>this switch *who I am not sponsored by* sounds bad, ew!!
>this switch *who I am sponsored by* sounds good, yay!

>>107070846
they bought the Lichicx molds
>>107070799
aliexpress.com/item/1005009948856370.html
looks like they're sold out, they're still available here and from some other vendors:
https://unikeyboards.com/products/wekt-lucy-r5-silent-linear-switch-factory-lubed-10pcs

>>107069296
Remember before model m became 300 dollars, when keyboards were open source projects with an a community that loved helping people invent crazy keyboards

>>107071076
Seconding this but with via compatibility
I don't want my board to vender locked to windows

>>107073157
Now this gets expensive, your best bet is a ZMX, GMK104 barebones

>>107073183
>GMK104 barebones
What the fuck, I feel like an idiot for already going through 2 off the shelf keyboards that are twice the price of this now. I could have bought this, switches, and keycaps separately and it would add up to around the same.

>>107073157
Keychron V6 Max with Gateron Jupiter Reds is ~$100

ABS shine is only bad if you don't treat your keycaps well. I use a normal big sized brush to wipe off visible dust a few times an hour. I wipe it down with 70% isopropyl alcohol and a microfiber cloth (I use the Zeiss eyeglass cleaning cloth because I know that won't ever accidentally rub too hard). I do this once every hour on my keyboard. Dust and gunk can get abrasive so brush and wipe that shit down NON STOP

>>107073438
I'd probably recommend getting a keychron K or V instead of that one, Zouya is pretty sketchy in my experience

>>107073562
I just don't like that ABS feels sticky and slippery sometimes
At other times though I do like how soft and not sharp it feels, it has a comfy factor in a way

Also, Strawberry Cheesecake R2 > Gateron Melodics. Any day of the week.

>>107073562
>a few times an hour
Not doing that. Once a day is fine.

>>107073695
Why are you comparing regular tactiles to a click leaf clicky?

>>107073573
>

anyone finna cop?
I'm thinking the split spacebar is good for using middle key thumb button for different layers? Never used these cucked keyboards though

thoughts and opinions? might aswell cop the GOAT

>>107074093
nta, but are you retarded?

>>107074175
It makes me sick seeing someone suggest a KEYCHRON over a custom keyboard in a mechanical keyboards general. If having the integrity and spirit of a mechanical keyboards enthusiast makes me retarded, then I'm retarded.

>>107074216
ok so you are retarded

>>107074059
I dunno, lol!

>>107074144
Go for it queer
get that big black plastic in ya
fuck yeah

>>107074295
Yes

>>107070073
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Yy-HePDv4P4

>>107074313
SBC
smallblackceyboard

>>107073053
>invent crazy keyboards
When? I just remember people making shit like in your pic and stuffing it full of foam and gay shit to make them sound the same as any other muted keyboard since forever.
Part of that is probably people getting hung up on MX style switches when the patent expired, but the fact still remains that's all this hobby has been about, especially when influencer homos took over after smelling blood in the water. When is the last time someone actually invented a different keyboard with different switches, or at least had something interesting about it tech wise, instead of making some gay novelty case with tranny colors or that's shaped like some object like cheese, but has no functionality to it?
No one has "invented" anything in this space for years, it's all just worse iterations stuck in a small, shitty footprint. Now it's becoming even more restrictive with the HE mania, I wouldn't be surprised if it devolves further into silent analog linear boards being the only thing retards produce anymore. Then that'll be replaced by some other gamer tranny snake oil, to further enshittify.

>>107074699
There's nothing to invent short of 1% solutions like $100k stabs which you won't give a fuck about if you just get good ones and lube em up. Keyboards today are in a better place than they have ever been before. Every frontier has been explored and commercialised without cutting corners.

Ho ho ho! No more flex-cut nonsense with the Transition Lite!

Stock plate is terrible anyway. Time to explore custom options. I'm excited to try out different switches and how they'll feel and sound in a foamless polycarbonate case.

Coom

>>107075525
Im happy for you anon

>melodics are literally tranny colors: the switch
blue stars it is

>>107076203
You're gonna put keycaps on that'll hide the switch anyway, who cares.

>>107076203
Dang they sound perfect for a full size keeb

>>107076449
Box Whites got them beat.

>>107076649
I know its kinda haram, but i really like Glorious pandas for full size boards >_>

any half decent wireless numpads w/ hotswap? under like 80usd if possible

>>107076810
8bitdo if you like the design.

>>107076810
weikav stars21 if you like aluminum

I understand the idea of trying different layouts and flavors of keyboards, some with numpads, some without, whatever.

I will never understand the point of buying a keyboard without a numpad and then buying a standalone numpad to get that functionality back.

>>107078045
The numpad is a depreciated fossil, it doesn't make sense for it to exist on keyboards anymore. Especially in the place it is in. The optimal position for a numpad is to the right if your mouse, or on the left side of your keyboard if you must have it on your keyboard.

>>107078045
you can put it in whatever position you like and off to the side if you don't need it

>>107078221
It's easier for data entry and some software is designed for it. I can see why someone might want it.

>>107078221
No one cares what larping troons think.

>>107078221
True but they are fun to mess with

>>107074144
>HE
old and busted
get the womier sk75 tmr for gaymer shit

>>107078221
>depreciated

>>107055527
a retard AND a faggot, here's your (You)

>>107059360
spring weight? travel distance? housing material? there's plenty of variety in linear switches lil bro

>>107079221
Please understand this just sounds really funny to people who enjoy tactiles and clickies, which are a lot more different from one switch to another

>>107059727
there's monsgeek m5 as well, not super high quality but probably better than zuoya... no knob though

>>107066434
nah, that looks kinda bad with arrows next to shift. I like the offset to right and lower, same as the three keys column on the edge.

>>107066395
don't really care about that shift. left one is more important. for length. TKL would be 2nd best, 75% is sweetspot for me

>>107073562
>I use a normal big sized brush to wipe off visible dust a few times an hour. I wipe it down with 70% isopropyl alcohol and a microfiber cloth
imagine having this issue

>>107074216
this is the most retarded type of elitism. it's not even proper, it's just a peasant who saw something nice and now he's acting snobish lol
keychrons can be nice, not all of them, but some have a bunch of shit already, isolation, upgrade-ability, and most of all, especially for HE, proper software.
plus going hog into some custom shit means you will not properly appreciate...whatever the fuck they do differently.
it's actually better to recommend some average shit for beginners, so they get to know what they want and what they don't want. makes the custom purchase in the future that much more enjoyable.
you're just a mindless consoomer

>>107074699
>No one has "invented" anything in this space for years, it's all just worse iterations stuck in a small, shitty footprint. Now it's becoming even more restrictive with the HE mania, I wouldn't be surprised if it devolves further into silent analog linear boards being the only thing retards produce anymore.
analog keybs can have electric switches sockets as well, with tmr at least.
>No one has "invented" anything in this space for years
dunno, analog stuff seems nice. what exactly are you expecting them invent? for example I'd like haptic feedback on each key

>>107078879
you people are crazy. none of you can tell the difference between he and tmr in any game.

reposting from /csg/
anyone got a monsgeek m1 v5? anything i should know or do when i buy it?
my local retailers only have linear switches so ill have to learn how to use them(they cost as much as barebones which is pretty cheap)
i have gateron browns from my old keychron v1 and im looking forward to put them probably on the modifiers or the main 68 keys

>>107079649
oh btw this DOES have VIA right? its the only reason im skipping the aula f75

>>107079649
>anyone got a monsgeek m1 v5? anything i should know or do when i buy it?
I recommended it to a guy once and he posted a few days later saying the board was DOA and I felt kinda shitty about recommending a brand I had not personally owned.

>>107079724
>
damn
the online seller that provides the keyboard is kinda accessible to me, i'll just show them the receipt if shit goes south
i appreciate the honesty

>>107079460
>seems nice
From marketing, but in reality it's mediocre at best if you're being generous. Analog input on sticks is a billion, billion, billion times more accurate and useful than keyboard keys, which have far shorter throws than any controller sticks, and only 8 possible movement directions from WASD. You have the "full circle" of inputs on sticks, which in practice on modern games give you full 360 degree range of movement, compared to only 8 angles on keys.
>what exactly are you expecting them invent
Just fucking trying anything, literally anything else, besides more gaymer snake oil that is already oversaturated like analog shit is. We already hit the autism limit with 1000hz boards. 500hz were already gratuitous for human reaction time. Adjustable actuation is an overhyped joke and will maybe, at best, give you a one frame advantage in one match out of 100 years of playing the same game, on the same map, in the same conditions, etc.
Different switch footprints, different methods of generating tactility, an actual serious attempt at full modularity. Even shit like VIA could see a multitude of improvements. Make it so that it can actually match shitty gamer software capabilities from 15 years ago, it STILL can't easily do macros repeating while a key is held, for example.
These are all avenues waiting to be explored, instead of the newest e-celeb shill fad over MUH MAGNETS. Way more important at that. Issues which actually have real world benefits, instead of human centipede-esque asshole sniffing cope from shitters that need to git gud or play casual games, because it isn't your hardware if you're playing on a 1000+hz keyboard and mouse of any make, unless you are using the most chinesium of chinesium implements to ever chinesium. If your keyboard and mouse aren't screaming "YOH BROOTOOF DEBICE IS LEDDY TO PALE", then you are already on the same playing field as 99.999999% of players in your game.
TL;DR: anything but magnet obsessed autism, please.

>>107079888
>and only 8 possible movement directions from WASD. You have the "full circle" of inputs on sticks, which in practice on modern games give you full 360 degree range of movement, compared to only 8 angles on keys.
these are the people saying HE is meh. look at this fool's confidence saying it
see picrel you brainlet? those are two actuators on each joystick, they can go one way or the other. in total you get movement in one of the two directions for each of them. which is the exact equivalent of using 4 analog keys. there's nothing more or less, it's the exact same thing, minus the extra control you get with a joystick, obviously.
my point is...most of you talking shit about he/tmr/analog sensors are pseud incompetent brainlets who can't tell your asses from your mouths. holy shit

>Just fucking trying anything, literally anything else, besides more gaymer snake oil that is already oversaturated like analog shit is.
what you dumbfuck consoomer, what? you want something new? you wanna be wooed? you entitled moron. you have no fucking clue about anything, you're just going by consoom instinct. you do not even fucking understand the tech you're shit talking lol
>These are all avenues waiting to be explored
I bet your mom is waiting to be explored

>>107080091
Four keys are more precise than two keys. Joysticks are trash for anything. You want controlled movement you go UDLR or WASD

Does anyone know where to get cylindrical low profile keycaps, like the ones Logitech uses on their low profile models?
Not the XVX profile that's more spherical, I have them and hate them.

I did find replacement kits to a low profile Corsair model, but I'd like to know if there are other options I've missed.

Why the fuck did I not wait until yesterday for the sale and order this keycap set instead? Holy shit I got buyers remorse now.

>>107057068
Recently got a Royal Kludge L98 for 30% off, it's nice. I use the left numpad for WM navigation, not so much for data entry.

which of these 2 do u guys prefer?

>>107081333
The bottom one

>>107081093
oh shit, there you are
I must ask you several questions about the L98
>does their official webservice work on linux?
>is the config persistent across disconnects, connection modes, and turning off?
>can you remap FN in any way?
>can you change the screen to display local time (or anything else)?
I've heard that the S98 screen let you stick .gifs in it, but not the smaller L98 screen
shame it also doesn't support QMK

>>107079888
Anon your argument is kinda bizarre o_o
In tons of games joystick games, there are parts people purposely use keyboards because a keyboard's input is more precise than a joysticks. Adding analog capabilities to keyboards isn't "snake oil" because for the games that support it, it radically changes gameplay for the better.

This isn't even mentioning the real productivity / gaming advantage, actuation points add.

>>107081025
So you didn't really want it in the first place.

>TKD left out the entire foam kit by mistake
They said they'd get back in a few days. At worst, I'll have to settle for Poron switch pads. Good thing this baby sounds and feels good without foam, if need be.

>>107079221
Holy crap, you made your straight line 1/10th of a milimeter longer and added a few microgran bumps to the force curve

anyone thought it would be cool to have that controller rumble/motor vibration in the analog keyboard?

>>107082027
I've done this before, I can dig out the setup and show you if you care.

But it doesn't work, it makes your keyboard finger placement lose track all the time

>>107082065
I have a small haptic engine from an older iphone, I can drive it easily but I figured I should test it and see if it's enough. I don't want something like this
https://youtu.be/fxmLD8y0RNQ?t=33
just some feedback

i wonder how horrible this profile is to type on

>>107082120
I used an array of 6 cell phone rumble motors taped to the sides of a 60% keyboard. Maybe you can figure out something more subtle. Its a fun project, worth a shot

>>107082065
did you use the actual controller motors? those are large, they cannot fit inside the keyboard

tranny makes money while you gotta wait every paycheck CRACKER

>>107082201
ah, ye that's what I had in mind, but I can install them instead of the battery, they should fit just fine. I also noticed QMK has support for it, so gotta find some free GPIO and build something to drive them
got any photo of the size? not sure how many would be required. I only have the one from picrel

>first time using a hotswap board
>first swap
>manage to somehow break the key it doesn't work anymore even with the original switch or others
fuck my sad incel unlucky so called LIFE

I need a wrist rest

>>107055527
very true and fact checked by real keyboard users

>>107080091
>>107081703
>pseud retards completely missing the point
Of course. One of you is obviously ESL, which at least explains some of it, but holy shit.
Anyway, once again: the only advantage keyboards have over sticks is being able to swap movement directions faster, that's it.
HE/any other analog input on keyboards is SHIT because WASD and its combinations cannot, and will not, ever match the full range of movement sticks have. It's literally just how they're physically designed. Please, by all means though, continue conveniently ignoring that fact alone, and pretending like WASD is somehow comparable to 360 degree movement.
Sticks have a longer distance than the longest travel distance analog switches available have to move, too, and have less of a gradient of fine inputs to register from as a result. You know, the throw? Do you even know these terms? Probably not, because you're retards looking for dunks instead of trying to discuss things.
Here, even AI knows better than you. Surprise! The average sticks have ~2-2.5x+ more travel distance than any currently available key switch, in a full 360 degree range of movement, too! I'm probably wasting my breath on retards that don't know simple terms regularly used in this space, though.
>minus the extra control you get with a joystick, obviously
That's exactly what I said, you HE bootlicking faggot. You were so desperate for an own here that you just repeated me verbatim and shot yourself in the foot in the process.
>buzzword buzzword buzzword and more faggot babbling
I think someone feels buyer's remorse over being duped into HE/other gaymer snake oil memes, and it's quite unsightly, as it always is.

>>107081703
And you, more specifically
>In tons of games joystick games, there are parts people purposely use keyboards because a keyboard's input is more precise than a joysticks
This was always the case before HE and other analog key switches took off in popularity in the last 2 years.
> Adding analog capabilities to keyboards isn't "snake oil" because for the games that support it, it radically changes gameplay for the better.
It literally doesn't, because the only benefit of analog key switches over normal key switches is gradual movement changes, which sticks already do 10000000000000000000000000000x better, as they also have the 360 degree range of movement. Driving, sneaking, etc., all better on sticks than key switches.
>This isn't even mentioning the real productivity / gaming advantage, actuation points add.
Having to hover your fingers over the key so you don't mis-actuate it when it's set to 0.1mm actuation actually fucks over any productivity and "gaming advantage". Go ahead and simply rest your fingers on even heavy spring analog switches when you do this and you'll see you input keys when you don't mean to very often.
In gaming, too, the amount of time it takes your finger to travel 0.1mm and 1.5-2mm is on the order of fractions of a second, so small that it exceeds any conscious human reaction + motor skill response.
Basically, it's snake oil shit if you have even a middle school level understanding of physics. Seriously, go do a clicks/keys per second test online, you'll easily get 8-14 per second if you aren't decrepit.
Now think about the time it takes your finger to move up and then the time it takes your finger to go down after dividing a second by that number, for each press. This homework is due by tonight and it WILL be on the test.

>>107081806
>putting foam in a full size
What the fuck is your problem?

>>107083880
Kek you ultra nigger I use 20g clears because my fingers are literally that precise. I have no problem with actuation points and use them liberally. I dont even want to engage with your nigger post because it insulting to humanity


Eg, you are a stupid nigger who is to stupid to delicately press a fucking key

>>107084238
The foam kit includes the PE sheet and I need that and the super-thin case foam they give, at the least. The plate foam is non-essential but they said they'd ship all the missing stuff in a week so it's cool.

>>107083102
It didn't feel like I did that, do you think that's what did it? Forcing a switch in when there was resistance?

>Cherry Love
>Monochrome Dolch
GMKsisters, we're eating good next year.

>>107084261
gayest shit I've read in a while

>>107084256
nta but you are a disgusting little faggot

>>107084256
actuate my cock with your mouth

Fuck off tranime queers
if you must be a homo in this general, be gay for GMK.

COOM

OOOOOO

>>107085580
>>107085651
>>107086150
i am sick of cherry profile

>>107085580
>>107085651
>>107086150
for me, it's dye sublimated PBT keycaps by Mr. Xiami

Would you like beheaded keycaps?

>>107084256
>no-discussion having shitposter is a literal tranny
Baffling to no one here. Also still doesn't change the fact you have buyer's remorse from being scammed into HE/analog shit and are dumping that trauma onto everyone else ITT. Cope and seethe more, why don't ya?
Concession accepted. HE/TMR/other analog slop is snake oil confirmed forever.

>>107087049
Mr. Xiami? Sounds fucking good bro srs

>>107087906
Actually I own optical analog switches for my gaming setup, please continue being wrong about everything like the loser you are


(and seriously im not arguing with a nigger who is incapable of lightly pressing a keycap)

>PP plate
>lubed POM switches (sea salt smoothie)
>ePBT Hellas (these are incredibly soft to the touch, much softer than other PBT keycaps I own)
holy fuck my fingers have not felt this good across a keyboard, ever.

>>107055527
DIY split fag trvth nvke

>>107088100
>actually I fell for the meme a little earlier + am retarded and can't read
We know, trannybro.
>muh lightly press
The time you take to consciously do so by restraining your motor functions already nullifies any "benefit" adjustable actuation has. You lost.

>>107083801
of-course they have more throw due to the lever. duh. the longer the lever, the more you need to move it for same result, which in turn allows more precise movements. that's pretty much obvious.
the "360 degree" movement is achievable with WASD, that was my whole point. if you press W and A, you can any movement angle in between left and up, any of them, depending on how much you pretty W and A. just like a joystick can.
the only advantage a joystick has is the EASINESS of precision movement, that's it. analog WASD are not limited in movement. if you're good enough with key presses you get the very same "360 degree" movement. joystick cannot do anything extra, apart from being more easy for the untrained in analog WASD arts.
now, you fucked up because you thought:
>>107079888
>only 8 possible movement directions from WASD. You have the "full circle" of inputs on sticks, which in practice on modern games give you full 360 degree range of movement, compared to only 8 angles on keys.
>only 8 angles on keys
this is wrong
>You have the "full circle" of inputs on sticks
no it isn't "full circle", it's literally just two analog inputs you brainlet, from the joystick. two. like W and A for example. not 8, not "full circle", only two motherfucking inputs, that's it.
>>107083801
>That's exactly what I said
no you didn't say that. you thought joysticks have "full circle" of inputs lmao. they only have two inputs at any one time

>>107083880
>This was always the case before HE and other analog key switches took off in popularity in the last 2 years.
this is till the case, analog keys can have actuation point set at any place in their range. that makes them faster than any regular switch or joystick. you cannot physically move the joystick fast enough left to right, since by your own words, it has more travel at your thumb, thus you waste more time moving from left to right, compared to two switches you minimally actuate in turn.
so again, you are retarded
>as they also have the 360 degree range of movement
kek analog keys also make for 360 degree movement you imbecile, you combine two of them to get any fucking angle. how are you still not getting this? holy shit dude
>the only benefit of analog key switches over normal key switches
it's to set where in the press actions trigger, or you can have 4 different actions per one key press, each set at various points into the key press.
you are so clueless and oblivious yet you keep having ideas about it, this is fucking insane
you can also have different presses register before you release the other key, or when it's right before or after the other key's position, you can alternate tap insanely fast.
so much so these actions have been banned in certain games for offering too much of an advantage over anything else that's out there. they are THAT FUCKING GOOD you fucking idiot holy shit you're totally oblivious.
you keep having ideas about a technology you know nothing about, not only that, you are completely clueless about how joysticks work lol

>>107089729 me
and technically, joysticks have only two inputs total. this is achievable with only two keys, but it's not intuitive to use.
if you'd set resting position at half key press for W and A, and you managed to keep them pressed at exactly half, then nothing would happen, that is the equivalent of joystick being in the middle resting position.
if you'd press more or release more, W or A, you'd start moving into some direction depending on the values from both W and A.
that's what a joystick is, two analog voltages, that's it.

see picrel, a joystick only has two of them, so there's a maximum of 2 signals at any one time, which make for "the whole 360 degree movement", which is perfectly achievable with just two keys on an analog keyboard, but precision will suffer obviously, unless you have god fingers.

Does KPRepublic or Kbdfans have an 11/11 sale?

>>107089701
>>107089729
>>107089766
>y-yes
>b-but actually no
>no
>nuh uh
>nope
>nuh uh nuh uh
Very compelling non-arguments there, especially looping back to "muh adjustable actuation", which again, has no real word benefit as you consciously limit yourself from resting your fingers on your keys to stop misinputs.
I'm glad we confirmed you're ultra retarded once again and think that the time it takes your fingers to move 0.1mm while hovering 1-2 mm above them, at best (more like 3-5mm) is somehow "faster" and more "advantageous" compared to typical contact based switches with ~1.5-2mm actuation.
Finger weight alone causes misinputs.
>muh different keys depending on depth
Useless as fuck in practice, too, as again, you are consciously restricting your movement to achieve these things reliably, while a regular player will just rebind keys to more comfortable/accessible locations.
>you can alternate tap insanely fast, so much so they're banned
SOCD is easily possible without analog input and it's entirely the fault of game devs designing dogshit movement systems. It's intuitively how movement should work, and not a benefit of the hardware, but a shortcoming of the software.
Example:
>"hurrr I designed a turbo button on board to make sure I am attacking off cooldown"
Oooor you could just let people hold a button down and attack off cooldown instead. SOCD or "snap tap" or w/e else fags want to call it is configuring hardware to compensate for bad software, essentially, which just highlights incompetence in the latter.
>n-no u
>w-well it is more shit unless you have God fingers
Thanks for re-iterating what I said about analog keys. They are trash unless you have honed a superhuman level of control, somehow bypassing conscious thought + bypassing conscious restriction of your movement to stop you from misinputing, while somehow instinctively knowing every single depth you have set different actuation points at.
AKA, trash for 102% of humanity, with a 2% margin of error.

>>107089906
>if I make conscious efforts for a lot of shit I can force myself to still use contact switches
it's still the inferior option on any metric you can think of. they have zero advantages over analog. I'd rather have options than not having options and coping online in degrading ways
but don't fret, wait it out for a while and they'll become accessible in price even for you. it's not like they're a fortune. pretty soon you'll find them on aliexpress for 50 bucks. then you will stop coping and seething about them
>They are trash unless you have honed a superhuman level of control
that's retarded, just git gud faggot

you're still a moron for being utterly clueless about how joysticks really work lmao

>>107089818
kill yourself

How do people get the energy to belt out arguments in good faith when they're both aware that the other fag is shitposting?

use case for analog switches?

>>107090561
Video gayming.

Just ordered TKL 8bitdo with kailh whites, surprisingly wasn't pricy, is the quality solid? PBT kaps, bt/2.4, okay looks - are tthere alternatives in similar price range? <100usd

>>107089906
kek I just want to piss your boomer scrub ass off more. Guess what else analog keyboards do? ITS THE END OF THE SHIFT MOTHA FUKKAAA lmaoooo

I'm more hardcore than most but I already use a c++ program that buffers my typing with shift modified keys, if I press "." it keeps the period but if I press the double actuation ".>" it will delete the "." and leave ">". This is FASTER and easier than holding shift. God I'm just so much better than you it FUCKING HURTS

>>107092330
>I'm more hardcore than most but I already use a c++ program that buffers my typing with shift modified keys, if I press "." it keeps the period but if I press the double actuation ".>" it will delete the "." and leave ">".
That's actually insane. But what if you need to write a shell script and have to type 'foo'"bar"? There are tons of ways that script will go wrong. Enjoy never typing 5%.

At some point I was thinking about analog switsches for home row mods but I was too lazy to research it.

>>107092084
I think they're pretty good for what you pay. Never seen any complaints. I have an 8bitdo xbox controller and it's great.

>>107092330
NAFO troon? In my /mkg/?

>>107092330
This sucks actually.

Today I am going to rebuild my Keychron V6 Max.

I'm keeping the MT3 keycaps and the Gateron Melodics, and the modded gaskets, but I want to put something very minimal in the bottom case, maybe a single layer of a thin fabric, since it's just a little too hollow even for melodics, but I don't want to nuke the whole sound profile with foam.

Also I'm gonna redo the stabs and put some stab pads under the spacebar since it's clacking too hard from stabilizer bottom-out, which seems to afflict me worse than anyone else for reasons I don't understand. Is it because I use only 4mm travel switches? Is it because I hit the spacebar closer to the far edges than most people due to my short thumbs? Do I hammer the spacebar harder than most? Whatever the reason, stab pads will help.

Might also see if there's a way to remove the battery, since I don't use it...

>>107092477
>>107093619
>RETRO_SHIFT_MS = 0.150 # 150 ms window
Shut up im still working out the kinks this is the future. Once you get used to it, its very nice. It works best on the number row

But yeah there are problems. I think the analog RETRO_SHIFT paradigm works better programmers Dvorak

>>107093553
:( they have all my images auto banned on /pol/ i can't believe an unironic FSB agent has moderator perms on /pol/

i wanna thank everybody that helped me choose a switch the other week. they arrived and they feel great

>>107086299
>i am sick of cherry profile
what's wrong with cherry profile
I'm fine with OEM keycaps but the white/beige/gray set I ordered from ydmk are cherry profile which forced me to order a cherry profile spacebar
did I fuck up ordering these somehow not trying to find OEM profile keycaps instead

>>107094438
Evil of you not to say which switch

>>107094968
Gateron Brown SAAR

>>107055527
>1. Beige is disgusting, looking
It depends, solid beige does look rather antiquated, the keyboard I'm working on is beige / ivory, light gray, and metallic gold.
I think it looks amazing.
>2. Full Keyboards are for trannies
Not sure where this came from, I feel the opposite.
I'm no keyboard connoisseur and mostly am interested in the technical aspect of keyboards, but between a full-size and a split ergo keyboard with 15 keys per hand, and 6 overlays, the split ergo definitely seems more tranny-tier.
What is better about having less keys that I can map things to? Maybe I'm just getting old.

>3. Topre boards are membrane boards
Fair-enough, wish the technology could be translated to a regular MX form-factor.
>4. cherry MX switches are trash
They're old and better switches have come along, but agreed.
>5. The wire on your keyboard acts like an antenna, and broadcasts your keystrokes in a 300 meter radius.
Nothing preventing modifying the firmware to send keystrokes encrypted.


>>107056201
>>107060546
TMR isn't hard you just need to offset the sensor from where you would normally place a HE sensor, otherwise design can remain almost unchanged.
The true issue is cost, I'm building a HE keyboard and investigated switching to TMR and the cheapest TMR sensor I could find to work was 3X what a good HE sensor costs.
I would love to know what they are using the FUN60 TMR.

ok did some autism and traced the hall effect sensors on my P1. see picrel
so basically what's going on is the power for each column sensors is connected in parallel and comes out from a shift register output. shift registers have 8 outputs, first shift register chip has last output feeding into the input of the next. so there's 15 total possible columns they can power, in turn.
each column has 6 hall effect sensors that output through a fucking diode, into opamps configured as buffers, which in turn go into 6 ADC pins on the micro.
so micro always reads the 6 ADCs with data from 6 hall effect sensors on each column, depending which one gets powered by the shift registers.
weird that the outputs of the hc164 powers the chips but whatever, if it works it works.
one thing I didn't yet test is the output of the hall effect sensors. diodes are regular 1n4148 with 0.6Vdrop so there probably is some modding room (?) by using schottky's? curious of the output of the sensors with unpressed switch.
maybe this helps anyone with designing their own HE shit.
ah ye have no clue what model hall effect switch but they have 03DYC on them. these have certain sensitivity and they're matched to magnet strength from switches, most likely. so can't use any switch, gotta be certain sensitivity and magnet certain power else it doesn't work properly. just a guess

>>107095032
and there's those level shifters that take clock/reset/serial data from micro and feed them to shift registers, which are powered from 5V. opamps from 3.3V. and micro from 3.0V. so level translators are between 3.0V to 5V.

>>107094979
...who told you to buy that?

>>107095032
and I only used 3 columns for example, there's another 11 or 12 of them on the board.

>>107095031
>I'm building a HE keyboard
how are you connecting them, what model you use, what switches/magnet? did you test the HE sensors with that switch or are you yoloing it?

>>107094968
gateron smoothie

>>107094880
no, it's all preference. cherry is very standard. I just like spherical profiles like SA and MT3