Thread 107176159

>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICE
Post build list or current specs: https://pcpartpicker.com/
Provide specific use cases
State BUDGET and COUNTRY or you will NOT be helped

>CASE
mATX: AP201, Lian Li A3, O11 Air Mini, XT M3, CH260
ATX: XT PRO (ULTRA), AIR 903 Base/MAX, Lancool 207, Flux Pro, Meshify 3, 4000D FRAME, X50
Dual Chamber: Y60/70, O11 Vision, Antec C8

>CPU
Gaming: 14600K, 9/7600X, 7800X3D
-Budget: 12400, 12600K, 7500F
Workstation: 265K, 285K, 9950X3D

*Avoid Asrock motherboards on AM5
*On Raptor Lake microcode updates should be considered mandatory, avoid second-hand

>COOLER
AIO: Thermalright Frozen Edge, Lian Li Galahad II Lite, Corsair Nautilus RS, Cooler Master Atmos, Liquid Freezer 3/Pro (unhandy mounting solution)
ITX/>42mm RAM: Mugen 6 Dual Fan, AXP120-X67

TIM: MX-6, MX-4, Duronaut

>RAM
*Prices and therefore recommendations are for the time being in flux
DDR5: 2x16GB or 2x24GB, 6000CL30 (AM5), 6400CL32 (LGA 1700)
Workstation: 2x 32GB (budget.), 2x48GB or 2x64GB (high-end)

>SSD (Keep firmware updated)
Budget: SN7100, NM790
High-end: SN850X, 990 Pro (Windows)
Premium: SN8100
https://borecraft.com/

>GPU
Budget: Arc B580, 9060xt 8gb (~$270)
-Used: 2060 Super, 2070, 2080ti
*8gb has become a major constraint even at 1080p
Midrange: 5060ti 16GB, 5070
-Used: 3080, 3080ti, 4070 (~$380)
4k : 5070ti, 9070xt
-Native: 5090

>PSU
Buying guide:
https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/

>MONITOR
1080p: 24" 165/180hz, KTC H25X7
1440p: 27" 165/180hz IPS, KTC M27T6 (miniLED), ASUS XG27AQWMG (WOLED)
4K: KTC M27P6 (miniLED)

>OS
Activate Windows @ >>>/g/fwt

>CASE FANS
Meta: Case with good stock PWM fans
Midrange: Arctic P12 Pro, P14 Pro (5-pack, loud @ higher RPM)
High-end: Fractal Momentum, Noctua G2 (140mm or 120mm)

>News & Rumors
RTX 50 Super: 2026 launch. 24GB VRAM for 5070 Ti & 5080 Super, 18GB for 5070 Super.
Nova Lake 2026
Dual 3d cache "9950X3D2"

>Product Notice
PNY RTX 50 cards have QC issues (rattling fans, reports of 5070 & 5090 with blown capacitors)

Gigabyte RTX 50 & RX 9000 video cards: thermal gel has QC issues, Gigabyte claims only early production batches were affected.
https://www.igorslab.de/en/update-on-thermal-putty-on-gigabyte-graphics-cards-after-further-storage-oil-separation-to-an-alarming-extent-and-silence-as-a-strategy/

>PSU Reviews
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplies
https://www.lttlabs.com/
https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-supplies

For tier-list enjoyers:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/

>Storage Reviews
https://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSD
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews

>Monitor Hunter
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1illeNLsUfZ4KuJ9cIWKwTDUEXUVpplhUYHAiom-FaDo/

>Omissions
-9800X3D: ~10% improvement in gaming over a 7800X3D (which is still in production)
-9060xt 16gb: Performance variable compared to 5060ti, consider cheaper second hand options like the 3080
-9070: Currently more expensive than the 5070
-"Futureproofing": Nvidia gpus in general have been aging better than Radeon regardless of vram or marginal differences in raw performance

Leave any constructive suggestions for edits to the op. Is slowly being worked on.

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>>107176159 (OP)
Friendly reminder that Nvidia users eat worms out of the ground. Super gross!

Anyone else notice that AF is completely missing or garbage in a lot of PC games now? Like yeah sure you can force it in the driver but why does it have to come to this?

>>>107176209
pls

>>107176273
one clever trick you could utilize is getting an LGA-1700 DDR4 system and take the RAM out of your old system and tough it out with 16GB until prices improve

>>107176264
Games are so blurry you can't tell the difference anyway :^)

Was about to setup msi afterburner to track my fps and stuff when I found a video talking about CapframeX and saying it's a superior version of what afterburner can do. Any opinions? Should I look into it and consider it as an alternative or just stick with afterburner?

>>107176273
USA? pcpicker needs to know where you are from

I got a set of 6000mhz 32gb cl36 for 125€
feels lucky even tho I literally lost 50% of the money for not buying it a month ago and missed out on having cl30

>>107176289
yeah

>>107176288
press ctrl+shift+o

>>107176290
lol hope you have x3d because your performance is going down the drain with that kit otherwise

>>107176209
Cpu and mobo through this deal
https://us-store.msi.com/Motherboards/AMD-Platform-Motherboard/PRO-B650-A-WIFI

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/9wK9b2 1100$ which i understand is not 1000 but its close and we could trim it a bit.

Hopefully some anons can critique it.

Do you want a rikishi? This is Sadanoumi Takashi he is currently the sekitori that has partake in the most tournaments among the active rikishi! His highest rank was maegashira 1 but never reached sanyaku status.

>>107176335
You're exaggerating

>>107176335
I ordered some 240€ 7800x3d from aliexpress

>>107176273
>>107176313
i was cooking anon >>107176342

>>107176338
There's so many things wrong with that I don't even know where to start. This is not a valid solution. You don't want to be tracking your power usage, you don't want a big black box blocking your screen. Just don't do this.

>>107176342
ask the customer if they are willing to reuse the case from their old system.

>>107176342
thanks a lot

>>107176264
devs don't tune maps or textures anymore they just AI generate it or accept whatever 2 trillion tris slop UE5 shits out

>>107176428
possible trims a 20~ or so cpu cooler, the PA is probably a bit too much but for its price... might as well
cheaper disk, the sn7100 is a good budget disk, we can go lower
a cheaper case, i like the 903 tho, as the other anon said you can reuse yours but if its too old it will make the building difficult and impede airflow
a cheaper psu, while the parametic filter picked the cheapest 750w gold fully modular one with some good reviews we could check for 650w semi modular or whatever
Its not a lot of trim, but its there
On the other hand if you find more money we could get a better gpu and/or a better cpu
Also the ram is bought like that as its about 10$ cheaper for stick than buying them together

It was my pleasure. Hopefully some other anon can vouch for the selection

I didn't know such cable management autists existed

whats the best pcie powered gpu

>>107176631
RTX 3050
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/zJXV3C/msi-gaming-x-geforce-rtx-3050-6gb-6-gb-video-card-rtx-3050-gaming-x-6g

i just purchased an MSI MAG B850 TOMAHAWK MAX for $189, is that good or bad

>>107176646
*6GB

why did no one tell me that the rtx version of gt 1010 released last year?

https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/geforce-rtx-4010.c4247

>>107176659
It's fine, Tomahawk motherboards have been MSI's stable seller for a while.

>>107176716
>card is fake
check card notes

>>107176659
I think its on some recced lists
in eu a lot of those are like 250€ and its less buyable when you know a 120€ mobo would get you into windows and get you same game perf

I gotta choice to make

>>107176842
fractal is obvious choice
5000D having front ports at the bottom is literally insane

>>107176842
Meshify 3 can only have a 280mm radiator at the top panel. The airflow is nice, though.
I'd get the Meshifry 3 if you're looking for a solid side panel case and don't mind that radiator limitation.

>>107176842
all are low brow cringe except the top right. but $200 for a case is retarded. im going with the NZXT H5 Flow.

>>107176753
its real but unofficially rebranded
https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/rtx-a400.c4212

>>107176842
Flux + filling all of its fan slots

talk me out of buying a AMD BC-250 for low-end linux gaming
I can get one for 90 euro, a cheap basic 512GB TLC NVME for 20-25 euro, a 5 euro shitty case fan, and reuse an existing 600W PSU I already have lying around.
Is it actually as good as it seems? RX 6600-esque performance with upscaling, meaning good enough for 1080p gaming in everything besides UE5 games and forced RT games.

any recommendations for a case without the glass side panel? I know I'll shatter it because my arms grow from my ass, so I want to be safe

>>107176290
You still got it for cheap. You cant find it for under $200 in america now.

>>107177033
You're basically limited to Fractal cases (Meshify 3, Epoch, North, Torrent, Focus 2, Pop Air) because alternatives like Silent Base 802 or one of the ProArt cases generally cost more.

Looking at hwinfo and I have no idea what information is actually useful aside from temps. I've heard I shouldn't track power because it causes games to lag but what about the other settings? When I have them all on there are hundreds of numbers and it all just becomes a blur of information I have no idea what I need to pay attention to. Can anyone give me some advice on how to trim it down to only see the basic things I should be looking out for if I'm not a power user?

>tfw bought 64gb ddr5 cl30 6000 a few months ago
wtf happened to make AI companies buy so much RAM all of a sudden?

>>107176659
That's a great price. What I paid for mine when it was on sale last month.

>>107176999
you have to use linux + weird compat issues + 16gb shared

https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/gDpwRV

How does that look? I'm never sure about motherboards

>>107176288
MSI afterburner is mainly used for overclocking, if the included rivatuner statistics stuff is all you want, then yes get capframeX. CapframeX will show you wait times, has better logging features, just all around better for that specific thing. afterburner, after all these years, still great for OCing though

>>107177179
Track fans if you want to change the fan curves for a quieter or cooler system. Track voltage if you want to undervolt or overvolt (you dont). Don't bother with the rest, most of them are for overclocking and stability diagnostics shit.
>>107177210
That's a bad motherboard. Within gigabyte, you don't want anything below an eagle. The gaming X is much better, being below the aorus line, however.

>>107177236
>Track voltage if you want to undervolt or overvolt (you dont)
But I was planning on undervolting at some point. Everyone says to do it here and everywhere else online. They said it's free performance and makes your stuff run cooler, why wouldn't I do it?

>>107177248
Oh nm I think you just meant I don't want to overvolt which yeah I heard that was bad to do.

>>107177184
its not surprising at all
the cartel manages production to avoid oversupply to maintain prices
this balance is easily disrupted by new demand they cant expect

>>107177248
nta
first time i undervolted i did it like that i tracked voltage with the gpu under load blablabla
second time i just put my card model in google found some common undervolt points and moved on with my life
Sure i probably could squeeze an extra molecule of performance if i tightened it up... i dont give a fuck

>>107177248
>>107177260]
>why wouldn't I do it?
Because you're not a power user and that is yet another thing that you would need to watch out for if you ever get stability issues. It is generally a good idea, but it's not really meaningful at the end of the day, I wouldnt do it if I were you.
And yeah, I did mean to stress the overvolting part. You really shouldnt mess with that unless you really know what you're doing.

32gb is 192€ in my country but 161€ in germany
i can have my friend in germany buy them and send them to me for less than 5€ in post
Hrrmrmrmmm

Anons im still so very conflicted on RDNA4 vs 50 series. As well as the pricing options.
there is only 1 9070xt at MSRP, and its a poopy asrock card. The benchmarks ive seen on 9070xt models have core, mem and vrm temps varying wildly, 75c-90c on memory. Ive never been one to buy the shit tier bottom of the barrel MSRP cards, and would usually opt for a beefier AIB card, such as a 3fan EVGA in the past. So the price for a decent 9070xt goes up to $650-$730. there are numerous decent looking 5070ti MSRP cards at $750.
I want to play at 1440p, and will never use frame generation. I have no idea how important upscaling is thesedays, as ive been on 1080p and adjusting my settings down like a boomer. I have no idea what do..
help plz

What would you consider a fair price to be for a second hand mini itx lga1200 motherboard?
I went on ebay and the prices I'm seeing for all mini itx boards are utterly ridiculous, so I'd like to know if all sellers collectively lost their minds or I've been isekai'd to a universe where it's normal to ask >50€ for 13 years old used boards.
I was just curious how low I could go for a diy nas.

>>107177184
As the other Anon said, production is very carefully managed to maintain prices. There is a shit load of money being pumped into data centres and it has forced all the major memory manufacturers to shift over production to support large commercial orders and not consumer orders.

>>107177311
Just get a pny oc 5070ti and stop overthinking it.

>>107177314
>datacenters make PCs cost more
>datacenters bump the cost of RAM and GPUs
let me guess, NVMEs are next

>>107177311
at the same price you get a 5070TI the fuck are you conflicted with
you have already said you dont want a bottom barrel 9070xt but dont mind a bottom barrel 5070TI
Now if you were to pick a 9070xt cause somebody talked you onto it to save money the first time it has a problem you will curse yourself and anon
You already made your decision no need to come here for reaffirmation

>>107177311
9800 or 7800x3D with an nvidia card is optimal IMO
>1440p
so get a 4070ti/4080 equivalent, 16GB wont get outdated any time soon.

>>107177311
>I have no idea how important upscaling is thesedays
lol and you wanna play at 1440p
only esports can do that shit

>>107177326
>mfw i made my premium gamer rig early this year, and kept my 7900xtx
i made a smart call, i wish i kept my extra set of ram sticks i bought by accident though, if i sold them now i'd probably make double.

obviously the datacenter investment is insane, but that has to end like right now
there is no one on the planet to pay for all that via subbing to an AI chatbot

>>107177333
Not next, prices are already rising. Buy now if you're in need, it won't be getting cheaper.

https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/ssds/phison-ceo-confirms-nand-prices-have-more-than-doubled-and-will-continue-to-rise-all-2026-production-already-sold-out-ssds-facing-pricing-apocalypse-throughout-2027

>>107177353
There is a massive amount of investment capital being pumped into bullshit AI startups. It's a bubble and the spending will continue until it pops.

>>107177346
Arc Raiders runs fine at 1440p max fps with a decent rig with minimal, standard upscaling. Its not the hardware, its the developers.

>>107177355
glad I built a PC before the datacenters consumed all the PC components I guess. We'll see if anything is available in 5 years.

>>107177311
>ive been on 1080p and adjusting my settings down like a boomer.

>>107177371
that game is a technical achievement, UE5 but runs/looks good, and the sound is really good as well. It's 100% the devs if they can't optimize things well.

>>107177353
you lack vision. its not about people subbing for an ai chatbot, its about building the infrastructure for the next tech arms race.

The future of warfare will be AI supercomputers playing high-speed chess with cheap drone armies destroying countries from the skies. And thats just a use-case off the top of my head that will require insane investment and redundancies.

My pc is running more shit then it should compared to other benchmarks of the same gpu.

Wut do?

Do I just buy as many NVME SSDs as I can afford? Surely they won't plummet in price in a few years and my investment won't become invalid...

>>107177311
frame gen isn't bad in some cases, like if you want to try path tracing in cyberpunk. I wouldn't rely on it, but it does work pretty well in general. But that's probably the best case for using it, as path tracing is extremely demanding without dlss/framegen.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6mqNKq
rate niggas

>>107177390
try DDU, maybe the drivers are fucked
worked for me
the superfluous steps would be buying new thermal pastes and phase change pads but its unlike to increase bench scores much

>>107177406
Do you have this or do you want to buy it?
>have
pretty decent build
>want to buy
DO NOT get that GPU unless you're getting a great deal for it used, I'm talking 200 bucks

>>107177398
get a decent 1 or 2tb nvme and an external HDD enclosure with USB 3.0, toss a 4 or 8TB drive in there for mass storage or torrents. games/apps go on the nvme, files to save go on the enclosure.

external is a good idea cause you can swap drives easily, no need to put it in the case (plus some HDDs are loud/annoying), nvmes are silent.

>>107176264
The lazy dev trope exists for a reason.

>>107177410
I just did DDU for my stuttering issue

>>107177406
just in case you didnt read the other anon dont buy a 6800 at full price
the fuck

>>107177351
7900xtx has its shitty sides, but the things it does well, it does really well. There's only a couple games I play that stress it, and that's only if I'm unable to disable RT crap.

>>107177398
i think you're already too late to take advantage imo.

>>107177406
get a 750watt psu, and surely there's 7000 series amd gpus that you could buy, otherwise good setup, i'd prefer a 500gb separate drive for your OS and essential drives personally, but go ahead, purchase asap to avoid the ram shortages.

HOLY SHIT HDDs GOT EXPENSIVE
FUCK ME I NEED TO STOP WAITING

>>107177417
I have a 2TB 990 Evo Plus in my PC and a 1TB 980 (forma regular) in an external USB-C 10gbit enclosure. I was thinking of getting a whole bunch of 512GB NVME's from random brands that people are selling as "lightly used" for under 25 bucks and just hot swapping them using the enclosure (tool-less) for infinite storage. SSD speed shouldn't matter much if I'm bottlenecked by the 10gbit USB bandwidth, plus my mobo being a cucked poorfag model with 5gbit only kek
Gaming on a 5gbit connection does work just fine actually. Most games never go above 500mb/s read even on my 990 Evo Plus when loading.

>>107177321
>>107177338
yeah the prices are so close it feels silly to go with the 9070xt..
>>107177342
waitfagged from wanting a 4070tisuper in the past, these two cards seemed like the best current-gen equivalents
>>107177377
T.T
>>107177403
I dont like the idea of adding input lag, but I suppose on some single player gawk at the pretty lights type of game I would consider it. I mainly play multiplayer games though

I have been overthinking this for days FUUUUUUU

>>107177453
3tb of nvme space is plenty for regularly used apps/games, I just use the HDD for saving my torrents, and then install stuff off that to the nvmes. HDDs are pretty cheap and the enclosure was like 10 or 20 bucks so I just use that for saving games/apps.

>>107177478
framegen works pretty well, path traced cyberpunk on my 4080 worked really well and that's essentially a tech demo, but without path tracing and dlss quality, it's VERY demanding. But shooting people is fine, the input lag isn't noticable imo. But in most cases you dont even need framegen, DLSS is enough if not native.

>>107176342
that's a big guy

>>107177311
The 5070ti is a considerably better card. There is zero reason to pick a beefed up 9070xt over a MSRP 5070ti at similar prices.
>I have no idea how important upscaling is thesedays
You are going to use it with any card other than a 5090 above 1080p.
>>107177478
Frame gen is a weird thing. Sometimes it just werks, other times it's trash. But you never want to frame gen from below 80ish base FPS, it's always awful.

>>107177311
Get a 5070 TI, you'll have peace of mind

>>107177390
Anon just discovered the silicon lottery. As long as it isnt doing more than 10% worse, you're fine.

i have shitty Dell xps 8700 with a GT 720 inside. Supposedly I can upgrade to a 1660 super without having to upgrade the 460W psu. Newegg says i'll need 400-490W. What does anon think?

>>107177390
You have to be more specific, whats the delta and check if you have the same ram timing and the cpu is bottleneck, it could also be something retarded and related to your PCI-express slots, motherboards with dedicated 4.0 USB lanes will underpower your PCI express lanes in certain situations, there also some mobos bios that have issues running PCI 5.0 on correct speeds and going into your BIOS and putting on 4.0 has been proven to fix the issues. Lastly it could be down to not being properly powered and running it with a PSU that has not enough wattage to properly power up your shit

>>107177628
whats your budget

>>107177355
>>107177333
will nvme's be cheaper on black friday vs. right now?

>>107177641
Most likely not. Dont wait on RAM or storage. GPUs might remain the same price or even go down on black friday, but will definitely rise in price later. Motherboards are up in the air.

If the noise of the PC is such a big issue why don’t people put it as far as possible from the display?
Both fiber optic HDMI and DisplayPort exist and can transfer data without signal loss. USB Ethernet and optical also exist and can transfer data without signal loss. What an I missing here?

>>107177641
your best bet is cpu deals
everything else is fucked

>>107177668
latency?

What's actually the difference between CL timings? I have cl40 and competitiveslop still runs at good fps without framedips, singleplayer games also run fine

>>107177639
I see on Ebay GTX 1660 supers go for 120 - 150 i don't want to spend much more than that.

>>107177668
>If the noise of the PC is such a big issue
It's not

>>107177675
I’m sure that you can put the pc quite far without latency with optic fibre.

>>107177688
6000 cl30 is cited as the "sweet spot" for x3D for example, but it's not a huge difference if it's cl40 for example, sometimes you have faster RAM but its higher CL but the FPS will be more or less the same. We're talking like 1-5 fps or so, nothing noticable.

as long as expo/xmp are stable that's all that matters desu, and enough RAM to run stuff comfortably.

>>107177718
I'm at cl40 6000mhz
Just wondering if I should upgrade before ram skyrockets locally
The mobo is assrock sadly so can't go 9800x3d and forget about the ram

Crucial Pro 32GB DDR5 RAM Kit (2x16GB) 5600MHz
went from $175 to $243 today
uhhh

>>107177770
you honestly won't see a notable difference, if you want to upgrade then go for more capacity (64gb) but right now that's very expensive. If you have 32 that's plenty.

The asrock should be fine, the issue causing x3D chips to get cooked was stock SOC voltage too high. That was on an old BIOS so the new ones should be fine. Also, it's very easy to cool cause it's a very efficient CPU.

>>107177802
Aren't the newer BIOSes still prone to cook the cpus? Have seen a lot of posts on reddit

Costco has some decent pre built deals right now.

>no date for RDNA5 / UDNA 5
>No redstone mention
>Next gen GPU's will be all about raytracing and AI tasks
Medusa and Zen 6 got confirmed for 2027 which sucks because i wanted to upgrade my CPU next year, if nothing about RDNA5/UDNA is announced during CES i think we may unironically not see it until 2028

>>107177311
Zotac Solid Core 5070 Ti is the one to get @ $750 atm, it has a better cooler than the small form factor models in that price range.
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/L8rp99/zotac-gaming-solid-core-geforce-rtx-5070-ti-16-gb-video-card-zt-b50710d2-10p?history_days=365

Sapphire Pulse 9070 XT @ $650 would be the alternative if you don't want ASRock cards.

>>107177875
>zotac
You better pray that nothing goes wrong with your card if you buy zotac.

>>107177869
That's alright, thanks to game developers new hardware isn't capable of playing games smoothly anyway, and current GPUs are entirely capable of running LLMs and whatnot

>>107177417
>external HDD enclosure with USB 3.0
NTA, but which HDD enclosure should I buy? I've got a new 8TB HDD lying around.

>>107177958
Well between no datte and Sony’s CFO has hinted that the PS5 is only halfway through its life cycle earlier today i'm starting to think Ameythsyt/UDNA may be delayed to 2028

>>107177629
How do I test if its getting enough watts.

>>107177994
Download MSI afterburner and check GPU /CPU utlizization on games, there is hundred gorillions tutorials on youtube ,i'll trust you can do that.

>>107178029
My GPU utilization is maxxed out

>>107177832
same with sams club. both need membership though. but yeah you can get a whole ass 9800x3d+5080 from walmart parent.

>>107178044
How much slower is your system then, you could be bottleneck by your CPU or it could be solely related to your ram timings, make sure you enabled XMP, regardless the only thing i could think is the PCI-Express shit so just go to your BIOS enable XMP and bench PCI-Express mode 4.0 and 5.0

>>107178063
Also if for some retarded reason you bought only one stick of ram make sure you put it on the 2nd, and if your system is running DDR4 then you are fuck rams are used on dual channel system so you will lose some performance if you are only running one stick, the problem is not so bad with DDR5 or 3XD systems though but could explain the difference https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hr6p1tqeM3M

>>107177390
Start Overclocking Boy

>>107178063
>>107178077
Loaded up BF6 for another benchmark. I'm running 90~ percent CPU utilisation and 100 percent GPU utilisation.
I'm not bottlenecked. I'll try what you said.

WTF DO I DO ABOUT RAM
IM FUCKED
POLEASE TELL ME IT WILL GO DOWN ON BLACK FRIDAY
PLEASE

>>107178116
>waitfags being BTFO and crying about it
all your cope about your poorfaggotry has come home to roost. It's expensive being soo poor you know, you deliberately suffer under inferior gaming experiences for YEARS, only to wait for products you have to overpay for! L M A O

>>107178150
i dont game you faggot im a low level programmer

>>107178116
you buy the cheapest 32gb 6000 or 5400mhz cl36 ram you can find
or a prebuilt

>>107178168
>you buy
when

>>107178098
What's your hardware config (CPU, GPU, memory)

>>107178186
yesterday
preferably a week ago

>>107178164
low financial level yeah lol

>>107178223
kek

>>107178223
typically nows the time to buy mobos on sale
or cpus on sale

you dont randomly decide to buy a platform upgrade 2 weeks before the big sale period

>>107178203
Ryzen 7 8700F
RX 9060 XT
32gb ram

>>107178223
life of the "just wait for nvidia super" bro

>>107178223
You may laugh all you want but im perfectly happy with my 5600 mhz cl 36 that i got for $100, i dont even own an am5 system to use it so it feels like a invested in something that is now that gets 50% more expensive every 2 weeks

>>107177556
>>107177571
>>107177875
>>107177933
the last card I bought was an EVGA, and ive never had a card need to be RMA'd.. so sounds like Zotac is no good in the warranty/return department? Do i need to be concerned about the 12vhpwr connector melting? Are they still shipping cards with missing rops? I heard there were driver issues and CPU overhead issue with the "nvidia app". Ive never used geforce experience or the app, only the regular control panel. Im ngl im still very conflicted. maybe im retarded and bought into too much nvidia FUD idk

True waitGODS know that this is just a temporary FUD moment. In a year or two new great tech will show up and prices will settle down just like they always do. Never buy under pressure you will make costly mistakes.

>>107178330
Get a 9070 XT, please do

>>107178316
I got 5200MT CL40 for 90 euro and I've overclocked it to 5600MT CL38 currently. Been too busy to go further, no time to stress test for stability. I bet I can do 6000MT CL38 or even CL36, and I saved a bunch of cash.
All my games run fine as-is so no rush.

>>107178116
BRO
DON'T YOU GET IT
HOW IS

ZERO STOCK

MEANT TO GO DOWN IN PRICE
WHEN DOES THAT EVER HAPPEN

YOU BETTER SPEND $400 ON THAT RAM KIT OH WAIT OH SHIT IT'S $500 NOW

YOU WAITFAGS ARE PLAYING A DANGEROUS GAME

SINGLES DAY DID NOT SAVE YOU

BLACK FRIDAY WILL NOT SAVE YOU

CYBER MONDAY WILL NOT SAVE YOU

BUY NOW

BUILD NOW

i need a gaming pc
i have 2500 euros

is that ok budget?

also, i'm planning to plug it to big ass tv instead of buying a monitor.

1000€ GPU
500€ CPU
500€ RAM
eh it might work

>>107178393
Yes that is more than enough. Get a 5070ti and a 9700x or 7800x3d or whatever equivalent Intel CPU is and build the rest around it. Settle for second best brands and search for deals on multiple websites and stores. Try to price match if possible. Should easily be doable.

I know this is an enthusiast forum, but come on guys, you don't need more than a 5070 Ti and Ryzen 5 9600X to play literally any game out right now.
>but le 720 FPS @ 720p slopsports cumpetitive CUNTer Stroonke!! need ze ECKS SREE DEE
kys

>>107178393
check this, maybe look for a prebuildt with similar specs but with a 9800x3D it should cost 2.5k or below as this one csto 2k >>107177832

>>107178420
every time /g/ has told me I don't need it I have needed it 6 months to 1 year later

>>107178431
if you play gaymes maybe, we only play straightmes /here/ and (((they))) stopped making those a decade ago

>>107178387
WHAT

THE

FUCK

>>107178387
IM

GONNA

TALK

LIKE

THIS

BECAUSE

IM

A

NIGGER

EXPRESSING

SHOCK

BIX NOOD

Jensen if you're going to get into corporate collusion you should probably take off the leather jacket

fr this shit is wack yo rams can't be real

>>107178116
Buy some generic HMCG78AGBUA081N hynix a-die sticks now and manually oc it to 6000cl28 yourself

>>107177389
Text based AI will surely get us there

>>107178487
remember that one period psu prices shot up and were hard to find? it was almost like psus can't be real yo.

>>107178523
No I don't remember, what caused that?

>>107177326
Huh, first time seeing DDR4 being mentioned with the current DDR5 shortage. Is there a market for reselling old DDR4 sticks? I have a set of 32GB DDR4 since upgrading to 64GB like 3 years ago.

>>107177675
HDMI -> fiber optics uses light to transfer data. If you can notice the latency you're either extremely far away, like another continent, or are not human.

>>107177668
Not everyone has a spare room they can just throw their PC in. If they do they can start looking at home networking. Where everything is in that one room. Cost also becomes a problem with these cables.

>>107177452
Even in the refurbished server HDD market?

>>107178554
It's still fine in the US.
But good luck if you;re anywhere else. Tariffs and taxes made refurbished HDDs basically the same price as a new HDD.

>>107178533
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0whCHfejM18

>>107178484
Can never trust the chinks.

>>107178523
>>107178575
how long were PSUs out of stock?

>>107178366
im sorry you can't afford nice things lmao, now it'll be YEARS of your dogshit toaster pc you can't afford to upgrade from, YEARS before you can upgrade.

Just steal like the shitskin you are.

>>107178366
I dunno man, wuflu shit fucked up the automotive market and it hasn't recovered years later.
I think this is gonna be the same thing where these companies and retailers will know there is still going to be a market even if the prices have skyrocketed, so it may go down from the current highs but it will likely won't go back down the what we expect lows should be at.

>>107178376
i have no idea what to do anon and you are making me more confused :(
the 1% lows and frame times look better on RDNA4, the VRAM utilization seems better on 50 series. the more I look into this, the more conflicted I am. help anon im stuck in an overthinking loop thats lasted days

>>107178259
You'll be at around 2~3% performance deficit because that CPU will run the 9060 XT down to 4.0 x8.
But that doesn't explain the total performance loss; your memory might be subpar.

>>107178596
>>107178533
mining
when bull market ended

Are there any 4-5l matx cases or will I need to 3d print it?

Never buy budget monitor, tv or anything that needs settings calibration. All you can find guide how to do it are clueless spics, chinks and indians using AI voice over and showing you how to set everything as default.

>>107178668
just do it yourself?

>>107178646
please get a 9070 xt, you deserve one.

>>107178646
nvidia cards will be supported longer and get new better tech that amd cards won't. That's all you need to think about. Just get an msrp nvidia card like the asus prime or pny oc and that's it. Do it now don't think about it anymore.
https://www.newegg.com/pny-technologies-inc-oc-geforce-rtx-5070-ti-16gb-graphics-card-triple-fans/p/N82E16814133900?item=N82E16814133900

Without this you cannot exist in the modern pc world

Why did they do it?

>>107178729
What is that?

>>107178661
>5l matx
literally impossible

>>107178729
Call of duty and battlefield hackers already proved its placebo.

>>107178734
Had to look it up since I don't know what it was also, it has to do with TPM 2.0 and you have to plug in a device to comply with that BS: https://www.ebay.com/itm/365398599150

>>107178756
Doesn't new hardware already have this? I swear I saw TPM somewhere in my bios.

>>107178729
>>107178743
>>107178756
>>107178796
They dropped the TPM & Secure Boot requirements from Windows LTSC.
Battlefield only cares about Secure Boot.
Valorant only cares about TPM.

>>107178738
250mm x 300mm x 50mm is sub 4l, and easily fits a matx board by itself. With a single slot sff gpu and gan psu, you can definitely pack a matx board into a 5l case. The problem is finding one in the first place.

>>107178796
https://www.pcmag.com/explainers/what-is-a-tpm-and-why-do-i-need-one-for-windows-11

It does, but I think this is some extra thing that needs to be present in the motherboard to fully enable the full TPM 2.0 setup. I honestly do not know since I don't have a TPM compliant PC and hope to never need to since I'm running linux.

is 350mm long enough space for modern graphics cards?

>>107178716
you make a great point anon
>>107178710
you are joking arnt you :(

>>107178875
A 5090 Astral's length is 358 mm for reference.
ASUS x Noctua 5080 card length is 385 mm.

>>107178891
Just buy an ASRock 9070 XT for $600 and move on with your life, I'd pay like $20 more for the Steel Legend.
You obviously don't want to pay for a 5070 Ti.

>>107178875
yeah. sapphire 9070xt nitro is 320mm roughly.

>>107178330
>Do i need to be concerned about the 12vhpwr connector melting?
No, not really.
>Are they still shipping cards with missing rops?
Possibly. We dont know what is old stock and what is new stock potentially with missing ROPs. A 5070ti with missing ROPs is still better at raster than a 9070xt, though.
>I heard there were driver issues and CPU overhead issue with the "nvidia app"
That is mostly linux autism.

>>107178330
>Do i need to be concerned about the 12vhpwr connector melting?
Is it something that can happen? yes.
Is it something that would happen to you if you build it well and use the GPU 12VHPWR cable instead the PSU one didnt bend it it 90°? No.

>>107178969
amd doesnt crash in /wuwa/

>>107178987
just plug it in snug, the only time gamers nexus could duplicate a burn scenario is when the connector was notably loose, like half in/half out. if it's snug, it will be fine 100%.

>>107176551
What's autistic about it? I cut all of my cables to length. Power/ground are as short as possible, and for parts like drives, all data connections are equal length per data set. It's just basic math.

I assume this will be restocked by black friday?

>>107179028
lol

>>107179028
absolutely brother

>>107179023
AMD CPU, Nvidia GPU is fine

I have a Viewsonic XG2401, did not know that it actually was very good for a TN panel.

When checking the reviews and comparing it with recent IPS monitors, there is not much of an improvement.

It won't feel like an upgrade, will it? Might as well be more bothered about the IPS glowing....so this leaves only OLEDs as real perceivable upgrade.
But at the cost of higher pricing, burn in prevention programs that just delay the inevitable, worse text clarity, low brightness etc.

>>107179023
>me when the nvidia driver hits me

>>107179071
If you can't afford oled I think qled is the way to go. I looked at some of them irl and the glow isn't that bad and most of the time there isn't any at all.

>>107179048
>>107179053
thanks for laughing at me, just pulled the trigger

>>107179169
You paid $400 for it???

>>107179169
Cancel the order it will go down. You should not be paying 4000 for that I paid 400 for the 9800x3d.

>>107179169
You should have waited for 9800x3d offers, not buying the old, worse, less efficient and recently discontinued product that isnt even that much cheaper.

>>107179071
>did not know that it actually was very good for a TN panel
That's a bit of a stretch. The edge TN have over IPS is in motion, usually in very high refresh rate monitors (300hz+). That's a 144hz screen, you can get IPS screens that look better and have pretty much the same motion clarity as it. But the correct move is going for OLED.
>but what if it burns in?
It wont

>>107179198
ok I just pulled the trigger on the cancellation
im sorry guys im not the brightest
when should i pull the trigger on the 9800x3d

this shit is actually really annoying because if you don't want the highest end thing, you're being punished because the old stuff is being phased out and so the prices will be worse. same shit with the nvme for my OS. i literally only need like 250GB but 1TB is like $20 more.

>>107179235
You are really very easily influenceable, aren't you? Anyways, just monitor the price of the 9800x3d daily until black friday. There's no CPU scarcity so it ought to go down in price a bit.

>>107179235
Do you live within driving distance of a best buy or microcenter? Microcenter is where I got mine but I live 2 hours away. But best buy will price match anywhere so I just showed them the microcenter price and they sold it to me for that. Walmart also can have surprising deals. Just bookmark the link on pcpartpicker and another one for walmart/bestbuy/microcenter and check it daily. Eventually a deal will pop up. This is how I got my whole build on sale and saved like 800 bucks.

>>107179248
>>107179253
what's a good price to look for for the 9800?

>>107179266
I'm in the market for one and I'm aiming for $360

>>107179266
I got mine for 400 flat at microcenter. But on amazon the lowest it's ever been is 430. Get the Keepa browser extension, it makes that graph you see which will tell you the historical price of things on amazon. Websites like that will trick you with sales that aren't actually sales it's just the price from whatever the previous price was.
So say something averages for a hundred dollars. They will raise the price for a day to 200 then lower it back down to 100 and say it's a 50% off sale. The only way to know is to track it manually or use an app like that.
I would say if you can get one for 400-420 you are doing good unless they are going to slash the prices into the 300's for the holidays. I really don't know that's just my feeling on it.

>>107179071
I have the same monitor, and while its a nice e-sports TN panel, the color and viewing angles are shit. I get crazy bad color banding . its actually 6 bit with some sort of addon to reach 8bit color. fill your screen with a solid color, for me I have to sit PERFECTLY to not have noticeable variance from the top to the bottom of the monitor. the viewing angles drastically change the color reproduction. change that to gradients and see all the wonderfully shit banding.
Its a great monitor for clicking on heads, but I think I will enjoy jumping to 1440p in a new panel type.

>>107179327
thx, just installed

>>107179266
MSI is doing combo deals with 9800x3d for $400, 7800x3d for $300. pair that with a discounted mobo for a good deal IMO. No idea if its still active, was through the MSI site directly.

>>107179280
>I'm aiming for $360
AMD's not going to sell one of the best gaming GPUs at that price (yet).
This guy's >>107179327 pricing information is more realistic.

>>107179235
since it's amazon anyway you can always screech if they lower the price and they'll give you the price adjustment, especially during holiday periods. Shit a lot of the time they'll do it automatically just send you message saying they'll charge the new price instead. At least that's what they do for Prime buyers.

>>107179406
good info, thx

Hyte X50 comes with no fans, ridiculous.

>>107178920
>>107178716
:( :( :(
no clue what do STILL

>>107178969
And all those buying nVidia until the ai shittery exploded are the reason RT garbage took off in the first place. Now you get what you deserve in the age of greasy smearing upscalers, sizzling RT effects that look like shit when in motion, and anti-soul gas ruining distance clarity.

None of this would've happened if you only listened. We could've had great games that run awesome on affordable hardware, natively at 4k, had gamers not bankrolled nVidia into AI booming. Now everything except light/reflections, and only when standing still, look like ass.

>>107179481
We can only lead a horse to water. At this point I think you're just the nicofag trolling.

>>107179481
Just think about it. If you buy a 5070ti you can astroturf yourself into believing that the 5080 doesnt exist and say "damn, I have the second best GPU out there after the unpractical space heater that the 5090 is". If you buy a 9070xt you will always be mad that you dont have a 5070ti or a 5090 when the frames drop.

>>107179406
Man, the only option they gave me when I wanted to do a price adjustment to their own product listing, they told me to just place a new order and return the current product I received.
For w/e reason this looks better for them or maybe its just easier for them to do it this way then overriding some transaction.

>>107179392
It was on sale for under $400 on aliexpress earlier today. It was, like, 389.

>>107179528
Probably a singles day sale $389 might just happen but $359 no chance

>>107179490
Im not trolling, just very conflicted and overthinking I guess. benchmark videos seem to vary too, usually they trade blows in raster preformance but it seems like the 9070xt was getting better 1% lows by a noticeable margin in some of these. I dont know if thats an older nvidia driver issue that since been resolved or what, I heard about bad drivers earlier this year.
I watched seperate CS2 benchmarks for both cards, with the 9070xt getting over 100fps higher 1% lows. I want a card I can play """esports""" tittles on reliably, but also play my single player AAA sloppa.
Ive always just bought nvidia cards because they just work, they were the more premium no nonsense option. with the 12vhpwr stuff, the driver issues on launch and missing rops that feels alot less like the case now. If this was 30 or 40 series, i wouldnt even be considering it. id have bought a 4070tisuper or whatever no question. like i said before, maybe its just a bunch of nvidia fud and AMD shilling thats making me paranoid, but right now I dont feel like buying the green card is the easy safe pick.

I'm kind of surprised at how big even mid tower cases are now

>>107179573
Why not buy either video card at a retail store nearest you and test it out and return (before the return period ends) it if it does not perform up to your standards.
And if it does live up to your standards, then return it and buy it online if its that much cheaper etc.

>>107179573
please pick the 9070 XT i beg you

>>107179573
Idk man, the only games I'm seeing the 9070xt dash ahead in the 1% lows are the games where AMD naturally performs better.

>>107179623
These damn larger gfx cards and people wanting AIO cooling, they are pretty much forced to make them larger due to actual demand.

>>107179623
They would had grown even more if newer cases didnt ditch the HDD cage.

>>107179573
A lot of nvidia's issues have been fixed now, missing rops and drivers primarily. 12vhpwr is still a problem but is minimised when you stick to a 5070ti or slower GPU since they draw too little power to cause the melting issue. Nvidia's advantages of better dlss4 adoption and lower power draw are still pretty strong and amd's own admission that next-gen UDNA will obsolete all their current architectures aren't helping them.

>>107179573
if you don't buy the 9070xt my entire village in bangledesh will starve

>>107179672
>A lot of nvidia's issues have been fixed now
lol

>>107179672
Please let the retard cope with his purchase, he is gonna kill himself if we stop pretending the nvidia drivers are still bad.

>>107179627
thats a good idea, but sadly dont think that would work out with my local stores
>>107179636
maybe thats all it is, idk
>>107179672
>>107179807
alright, thats sort of reassuring
>>107179631
>>107179673
kek

Anyone know a PDU that has 8+ sockets with the plugs turned 90° and more spaced out? Hes to be a basic PDU with no surge protection. I am plugging it to my UPS.
This one has 10 sockets but the plugs are too close and the orientation sucks for brick type plugs.

based imma wait till black friday for ram they will deliver to me in may 2026

My RAM sticks have better rate of returns than my investments

this seems to be the only decently available ram kit in the entire world rn

>>107180066
lmao

rm650e is $104, rm750e is $89. both wattages work for me. makes sense to go with the latter, but i see complaints specifically about the 750e being noisy vs. the 650e. which should i get?

>>107180072
>simple design
>no rgb shit
nice.

>>107180126
I wouldn't get an e PSU. They're all noisy bastards, especially that 850e.

>>107180147
What? I use an e PSU, they don't even make a sound.

>>107180147
>>107180179
https://www.corsair.com/ww/en/explorer/diy-builder/power-supply-units/corsair-rm1000e-clicking-noise-explained/

seems like it may have been resolved

>>107180181
>RM1000e
>650, 750 and 850 is technically possible
so basically, a nothingburger
No reports of the other PSUs making the clicking sound.

This is the first DRAM boom and bust cycle where CXMP is competing with the big 4 at the latest tech. The chinks are going to save us.

Why is afterburner reporting different gpu memory usage compared to task manger? Which is more accurate?

>>107176159 (OP)
What's the catch here?

>>107180072
Micron fucking won
Hynix trannies btfo

>>107180340
id trust after burner, task managers a bit of a meme when it comes to that stuff. shows incorrect CPU core speeds and such for me sometimes as well

>>107179071
lmao I'm in the same boat with the XG2402. Tandem oled is almost enough to tempt me but I can't drive 4k high fps reliably with a 9070XT so what's the point?

>>107180401
Probably chinkshit

>>107180458
Nextorage is literally Phison's "in house" SSD brand. Was also a sony offshoot. Made in JP SSD is just bizarre, honestly

>>107177326
there are laws against this shit.
but they don't care because they make some $

>>107177380
>UE5 but runs/looks good
HHHHHHHHHHHAHHHahahahahhahaaaaaaaaaaaaahaaahahhahahaaa

>>107177628
you'll want to buy a new psu anyways
your current one is ancient

Where the FUCK are the ssd sales?

I have no idea what motherboard to get. :)

>>107180452
>doesn't die in 5 years
>if fan gets worn down i just need to get a new fan
it's nice. I also live in a house so my PC is in my basement. I don't need to worry about noise.

>>107180452
If you were so proud and content with your meme liquid cooler you wouldn't be posting this to make yourself cope with the shitty purchase.

>>107180576
Can't help if you don't give us any information. If you are a casual gaymer get an 850 not asrock. If you are a pro trans streamer get an x870 not asrock.

>>107178384
you have hynix ram, you can do 6000cl30 like we told you

anyone preordering the Intel Arc Ziggarat Z770 with 4tb vram?

>>107180452
I wonder what it's like to be retarded, but nevertheless popular because you're pretty.

Is it normal for ss 970 evo asic controller temp(drive 3 temp in HWinfo) to be at 60c? I use this one as a boot drive. My another ssd, 980 pro is only idle around 45c.

>>107180452
You only need water coolers if you use one of those intel monstrosities or actual workstation stuff.

Woohoo, one step closer to being able to play games on my new pc. Finally got my afterburner monitoring setup. How does it look? I was going for a minimalistic approach. A lot of the guides I looked at wanted you to track a million things like every single core and such. Just don't see how that would be very useful to me so I only went for the stuff that seemed really important.
Does it look like I got everything or is there something I missed that is important to monitor?

>>107180698
It looks like shit.
Just turn it off and play your games. You're not excited about playing games. You're excited about numbers.

>>107180753
Numbers are also a highly respected way to use computers autistically.

>>107180072
VRAM/RAM usage is helpful to track memory leaks

>>107180753
:(
I wasn't planning on using it all the time just at the start to make sure the game is running well.

>>107180770
dont listen to that anon, undervolting and overclocking is more fun than games

>>107180770
We already know you pee your pants and you'll never live this down.

>Day2 Using 55" tv as monitor
Why the fuck is the desktop intermittently flickering black? I sold my other monitor to get rid of this issue now it's even worse
and it's related to hardware acceleration or something and is app dependent?

example, I change video render in mpc hc and it no longer needs to full blackscreen putting it in full screen

but fucking around with chrome and minizming and switching apps around it flickers black, why? tired turning off hardware acceleration but it makes browser slow as FUCK and dropping frames like insane, seems like a retard solution

I'm realizing using multiple windows on a single 4k screen is kinda retarded also, I'm a full screen app per screen person, trying to manage multiple small 1080p windows is just fucking ass I think

>>107180753
Well, yes. Numbers are fun. I want the most optimal way to play my spreadsheet games where I optimize shit.

>>107180788
>intermittently flickering black
This can be 3 things:
>ABL or BFI
Which you can disable in the service menu/regular menu
>VA autism
In which case, it's over for you.
>GPU artifacting
Same as above.
>and it's related to hardware acceleration or something and is app dependent?
I dont think it is.
>trying to manage multiple small 1080p windows is just fucking ass I think
Try running one big 3840x1440p window and 1-3 smaller windows on top. That is the comfiest setup for me. I like it better than using multiple screns.

>>107180800
>Numbers are fun
wdhmbt

>>107180788
>win11 jeetware

lol
lmao

>>107180591
So far I got
9800X3D
5080
96GB Corsair CL36 6000MHz (2x48)

Gaming, bit of CAD/Modelling shit. Don't intend to have a lot of storage or random expansion cards.

I've literally never bought or used a AMD CPU or the motherboards to go with them so I have no idea what the fuck any of the nomenclature is.

>>107180872
Just get any 850 brand motherboard then you'll be fine. I'm partial to MSI but anything besides asrock isn't going to give you any issues just get the cheapest one or the brand you like the most.

>>107180886
There's something that feels kinda wrong in buying expensive components and then stuffing it on the cheapest MOBO.
Like I'm just daring the AliExpress $5/1000 capacitors to explode and nuke my shit.

>>107180668
Anyone :( forgot to mention that i'm using heatsink that came with mobo(gigabyte b850), it's a bit loose tho, don't know if it's relevant or not

>>107180910
Just don't buy a board under $100 and one with powerstages not old school mosfets

>>107180910
850 isn't cheapest those would be the 650's. The only difference between 850 and 870 is the 870 has a 40gb usb connection and a couple extra nvme slots which you don't seem to need.

>>107180886
What's wrong with Assrock?

>>107176159 (OP)
What's the cheapest system I can build with a 9070 xt. I just wanna play at 1440p.

>Buy RAM for £260
>It's £416 before I even get it into my sister.
Gonna be trading this shit for bitcoins at this rate.

>>107180950
They burned out some AMD CPU's. Supposedly fixed but why take the risk when there are plenty of other brands that just work.

>>107178544
> Is there a market for reselling old DDR4 sticks?
Sort of? If you have high capacity sticks, you'll definitely be able to sell them for what you paid for them, plus maybe 30% of the base price on top? The bigger issue is finding a buyer. Like sure, a 2x32Gb might be worth 200 CAD, but who's buying that? Normal people and gamers are more than fine with 32Gb total RAM, and that's easy and cheap to accomplish. 64Gb would be for a budget workstation, but those people probably already have that much RAM, and probably won't spend that much on more.

So I'm seeing a lot of people trying to sell used 32Gb RAM at grossly inflated prices, but not a whole lot moving. There just doesn't seem to be a market for it on the used consumer side of things. Sure companies are paying out the ass for it, but the average person sure as hell isn't.

>>107180452
Any real white person can just stick their computer near an open window for 5 months of the year and it'll cool itself.

help anons i still cant decide its been days.
my heart yearns for the waifu

>>107181315
Flip a coin.
When you regret the purchase you can blame the coin instead of yourself.

Even though ram is fake and gay now, Im trying to choose between 32 gigabutt kits. Narrowed down to either corsair or gskill. No RGB gay rainbows.

Gskill Flare X5s are looking pretty okay. 2x16gb sticks.

>>107176264
dithering + TAA to mask it is everywhere

>>107180981
What are you inserting ram into your sister for...

>>107181334
G.Skill is a more reputable brand, corsair gives the vibe of temu stuff with a fancy sticker.
Just get whichever is cheaper.

>>107180872
There are some motherboards that have a power limit below the 9800x3d's max boost potency, but it's unlike you will ever boost to anywhere close to 160w. Still, these boards are power limited for a reason (shit components). Try to avoid asus prime, gigabyte gaming, etc.
>tldr
Dont pick any board that goes above 80, maybe 85 degrees in this chart, that are power limited to below 162w OR have less than 8, optionally 10 phases in the VRM. This is just for B850, other specs will have different listings, of course.

>>107181355
Note the red and orange lines mean the cpu is throttled

now you have to wait 2 more years - literally - before ai bubble subsides and prices come down

>AMD chipset drivers refused to update from Adrenalin over and over again despite claiming it's doing that
>wtf
>Need to go to Program Files x86/AMD and click the chipset driver thing there
>It installs it
Why... doesn't their program that specifically updates things do this? Why does it just download a thing there and act confused?

>>107181334
I bought XPG. It has RGB bullshit, unfortunately.
>>107181345
The RAM brand company doesnt make a difference. All that matters is pricing, frills and the actual manufacturer behind the modules.

>>107181366
Some of the red ones only throttle the 9950x.

I fucking hate having 4 ram slots, and only using 2. It drives my autism up the wall. Id rather have 4 sticks giving me the same total, than 2.

>>107181315
please buy the 9070 xt, is the card you deserve

>>107181399
you keep saying this and its mean i know you are saying im stupid and deserve an AMD card :(

>>107181377
You see, if you don't install drivers then your drivers will never be broken...

>>107181315
Just buy the 9070xt

>>107181325
Do this unironically. Flip a coin and say you're going to go with it.

Now here's the secret part and you can't do this so often that you get used to it. Only once or twice a year...
If you don't like the side the coin landed on the. You know your answer is the other side.

So one or some of you helped me determine my motherboard was bad last night.
An anon suggested local used b85 or h81 motherboards for like $20 but I don't really have that option here in bumfuck nowhere.
Do you have any specific suggestions for my 2 sticks of 8 gb ddr3, 2tb hdd, 256 ssd, 1070, and some Intel cpu from 2016/2017?

Otherwise I'm gonna just buy something that ships in 2 days from Amazon.
I'm ready to have my computer back.
Fucking new z97 msi pc mate is $140 because they stopped making them but everyone must have my build.

>almost 30 brands of power supply brands to choose from

Is this legal?

>>107178393
where in Europe? you can get a powerful machine for that price
i can make you a pcpp list

Consider moving on

>>107181501
>>107181501
>>107181501

i have done it. I've ordered an LG 32GS75Q

>>107181666
its one of the ones im contemplating as a present to myself for christmas
i thought i would stick to a 27" but if i can get a similar enough screen at 32" for say 30-50€ more.... might as well

>>107176159 (OP)
What a disgusting OP.
This whole thread smells like Nvidia

>>107175398
fagphone 13 extra goy edition