Would you be useful if you suddenly went back in time? - /his/ (#17864088) [Archived: 6 hours ago]

Anonymous
7/22/2025, 11:02:18 PM No.17864088
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Would the knowledge you currently have be game changing or even useful? Like:
Making a light bulb or a musket. Showing how to make powdered steel, anti-bodies, etc.
Or would you be more useless then a poo shoveling peasant?
>note knowing modern political talking points by heart is not useful knowledge.
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Anonymous
7/22/2025, 11:27:15 PM No.17864117
>>17864088 (OP) I'm useful everywhere.
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 12:12:20 AM No.17864217
>>17864088 (OP)
All you need to be useful is basic shit like F = ma and elementary calculus.
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 12:16:57 AM No.17864223
>>17864088 (OP)
I know how to cook up nitrates, that good enough for my own kingdom as compensation at the time of that fatty on the throne.
[Spoiler]I'll use more stuff i know to conquer the world once i have my own power base[/Spoiler]
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Anonymous
7/23/2025, 12:24:41 AM No.17864233
>>17864088 (OP)
Depends on what time I'm sent back to. If I'm sent back to 1950's America, I might be able to etch out a pretty comfortable life for myself and my descendants. If I'm sent back to 1850's America, I might manage to survive. 1750's America, I think I'm dead.
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Anonymous
7/23/2025, 1:03:32 AM No.17864353
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>>17864233
>Depends on what time I'm sent back to.
You are teleported right into Henry the 8ths court, (I'm talkin bout 450 pound brain damaged perma-angry Henry).
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 1:04:33 AM No.17864356
>>17864223
>know how to cook up nitrates, that good enough for my own kingdom as compensation at the time of that fatty on the throne.
Wouldn't they just kill you for being a witch? I mean this isn't an isekai.
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Anonymous
7/23/2025, 1:12:22 AM No.17864376
>>17864233
>If I'm sent back to 1950's America I might be able to etch out a pretty comfortable life
MFer all you had to do was speak english and be white and you were GARUNTEED a rich comfortable wife with doting trad-wife.
My great grand date literally got letters on his 18th birthday from corporations asking him if he'd come work for them for (adjusted for inflation) 6 figure starting income with free health care plan.
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Anonymous
7/23/2025, 1:25:23 AM No.17864412
>>17864376
>all you had to do was speak english and be white
I can speak English, but my whiteness depends on who you ask
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Anonymous
7/23/2025, 3:19:24 AM No.17864680
Even basic optics for telescopes or microscopes
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 3:25:15 AM No.17864699
>>17864088 (OP)
Not really. I know how a lot of things work theoretically, but couldn’t prove anything scientifically or design any devices from nothing. An idea guy at most if they kept me around. If I could work closely with a craftsman we could make a modern acoustic guitar. The only thing I could jump right into with some success is cooking.
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 3:29:35 AM No.17864712
>>17864412
either you're anglo or you aren't
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 3:32:44 AM No.17864719
>>17864088 (OP)
>Wash hands before operating on a person
>Illness spreads through air, food, or water, cover your mouth when you cough or sneeze
>Trigonometry and calculus
I'd say the main advantage is that I'm 6 feet tall and in good health so depending on when and where I end up I'll either get my skull caved in as a freak or end up as king of the manlets
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 5:24:36 AM No.17864920
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>>17864233
>>17864376

My buddy's dad (now passed away) said after he got back from the Korean War in 1955, he hung out at home for a couple of weeks before his mom nagged him to get a job, so she packed a lunch for him and he took the bus down the road to the Dodge City truck plant and was hired and started working that day.

High paying union job, great benefits, pension, got married, bought a house, had three kids, wife never worked and retired after 30 years.
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Anonymous
7/23/2025, 5:51:50 AM No.17864963
>>17864088 (OP)
A lot of inventions were preceded by crude prototypes and not adopted until they developed the supply chains surrounding them. I could probably figure out how to make a rudimentary lightbulb, but I probably couldn’t mass manufacture them.

What you really need are organizational and scientific revolutions and even though we might like to think one person anachronistically revealing electricity to medieval lords could change the course of history, the reality is that a lot of economic structures are downstream of social and political structures which require people either dying out or being killed off in order to change. I don’t have any interest in leading a revolution, and I don’t think I’m qualified to introduce any novel insights into the scientific method.
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Anonymous
7/23/2025, 5:58:15 AM No.17864971
they would probably kill you for being a threat and practicing "witchcraft"
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 5:58:28 AM No.17864972
To keep the discussion going, we could also identify a time period and identify what we believe the most important inventions we could feasibly introduce would be. I always imagine these hypotheticals as taking place in medieval Europe, so off the top of my head:
>Road building techniques lost (or neglected) after the withdrawal of the Romans
>Factory system for labor organization allowing for the development of interchangeable parts and quality control
>Nitrates for fertilizer and gunpowder
>Scientific method based on quantitative / empirical principles
>Mechanization
>Sanitation practices like handwashing and sterilization with fire and alcohol
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Anonymous
7/23/2025, 6:00:30 AM No.17864976
>>17864972
One I missed was introducing the theories of comparative and absolute advantage.
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 6:37:43 AM No.17865020
>>17864920
>>17864376
>Rich were taxed 90%+
>But nooo this isn't why things were good back then I swears it!
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Anonymous
7/23/2025, 7:32:04 AM No.17865085
>>17864963
>which require people either dying out or being killed off in order to change.
Can you give any examples of that today? who is holding back things now? (and don't just say "white people" or "men").
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 7:41:45 AM No.17865092
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>>17864972
>Road building techniques
Byzantines knew how to do this, so I assume you could just buy a manuscript and then get some engineers to test out the ideas. In other words: I think they W. Euros didn't have better roads because it didn't matter to local lords and junk.
>Factory system for labor organization allowing for the development of interchangeable parts and quality control
Maybe you could get to the level of 1700s type manufactoy's but I don't think you'd have enough educated people to manage/etc all this stuff. I mean IRL isn't an isekai anime were in 5 months the hero turns the nation into a superpower.
>Nitrates for fertilizer and gunpowder
That actually would be game changing
>Scientific method based on quantitative / empirical principles
Needs a critical mass of educated people which medieval time wouldn't have.
>Mechanization
What do you mean by this?
>Sanitation practices like handwashing and sterilization with fire and alcohol
You have to get the church to tell people it was for religious reason otherwise they wouldn't do it. I mean did YOU get the jab? See what I mean?
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 7:51:19 AM No.17865096
I would join a monastery. Learn Latin and Greek and how to make beer. And be gay as hell.
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 8:23:33 AM No.17865138
>>17864972
>>Road building techniques lost (or neglected) after the withdrawal of the Romans
irrelevant
people could figure out how to build roads, there was no manpower/funding/centralized organisation for mass infrastructure projects
>>Factory system for labor organization allowing for the development of interchangeable parts and quality control
irrelevant until industrial production methods(will (you) invent those?)
>>Nitrates for fertilizer and gunpowder
Do you actually know anything about 'nitrates' or are you just expecting to walk up to 'head alchemist' and say 'just use nitrates bro' for him to go 'what the fuck is a nitrate? oh, saltpetre? the very valuable thing that we can only afford to use for war and gunpowder because we only know how to extract it from laborious shitpits until massive deposits are discovered in Chile and chemical industry develops in the 19th century to allow for mass production? you want us to use that as fertilizer?'
>>Scientific method based on quantitative / empirical principles
irrelevant until social reform for mass public education and research
who are you going to suggest your 'scientific method's to? the secular authority who won't give a shit or the church authority, who, if they decide to give a shit, will recognize it as a threat to their power?
>>Mechanization
mechanisation with what machines lol
>>Sanitation practices like handwashing and sterilization with fire and alcohol
was already practiced occasionally, you won't force mass adoption until microscopy and germ theory
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 8:25:11 AM No.17865140
it will never not be funny how every time these threads pop up there are dudes who think they'll walk up to someone(who?) in a society where making a sword with decent enough properties is peak iron processing and go like
>just build a factory bro, like just make a steam engine
do you know anything about metallurgy? engineering? chemistry and material science? would you be able to tell medieval workmen and blacksmiths how to create boilers and pistons that can seal and contain the pressure high enough to have a productive steam engine? go look at a modern screw and bolt and tell me how you'd make that in the middle ages
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 8:29:25 AM No.17865143
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>>17864088 (OP)
Here's what I'd do if I was teleported to Tudor england:
>Promise to cure Henrys ulcerated leg.
Do it with basic shit like alcohol. This would immediately get me in his good graces. Knowing Henry: generous patronage.
>Create a laboratory in my new estate and use it to "invent" basic shit like: steam mine shaft pumps (Newcomen engine).
>Us the proceeds to fund my own regiment (lords could do this at that time). Implement basic infantry training and ruthless total war strategies, back in those days infantry did "drill" but not not small unit tactics, also there were seasons and times you would fight. I would implement a 24 hour non-stop battle strategy.
>implement modern war tactics
Dispersed formations, shooting lying down, rifled muskets (4x the range), cap-lock guns (3x reload speeds), impact grenades (via vacuum pump ignition), shot-guns (for close quarter fighting), and
always drawing in other armies into horrific urban/mountain/forest ambush battles, or close in shotgun/grenade battles.
>invent canning
shoving food into wine bottles and then boiling it so you troops can march on campaign without foraging.
>buy horses emasse and create mobile dragoon units
dragoons are infantry who use horse for high mobility. Use it make effect range 40 miles per day (instead of 20).
>Create explosive "shrapnel" rounds for cannons, rifle the cannons, bring in logarithmic sights for direct fire.
Basically what I'm saying is have a 1860s army in the 1500s, and then use it to march on London and kill Henry and make myself lord protector of England.
>to be cont....
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Anonymous
7/23/2025, 8:32:39 AM No.17865147
>>17865143 (me)
Implement a draft and create a 500,000 man army. This would make me more powerful then all the armies in Europe. Simply start conquering them on by one. (from St Petersburg to Constantinople).
Make my self Emperor of revived Roman empire.
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 9:59:54 AM No.17865232
>>17864088 (OP)
I'm a general practitioner. Practicing medicine as I do now would be difficult. I could diagnose simple illnesses based on symptoms, but more complex ones would be hard without modern equipment. Plus, many diseases require modern treatments which I wouldn't have.
I'd probably focus on infectious diseases and try to make penicillin.
I'd also try to teach basic anatomy, biology, chemistry, etc. and explain the importance of hygiene and public health.
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Anonymous
7/23/2025, 10:27:26 AM No.17865268
>>17864088 (OP)
Generally, your best bet would be
- learning 18th century agriculturalist literature by heart
- knowing how to set up glassworks and bone china production
- the Thomas-Gilchrist process, that produces phosphate and steel
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 10:55:38 AM No.17865296
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>>17865232
>I'm a general practitioner.
Ok here is a hypothetical: You are teleported to Henry the 8ths court. You have to cure him or he'll have you hanged drawn and quartered. His problems are:
>burst a varicose ulcer
>gout
>type II diabetes
>syphilis
>hypothyroidism
He give you an unlimited budget but you have to use 1500s technology, how do you cure him??
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 11:19:48 AM No.17865316
>>17864088 (OP)
If you can convince people that you are a doctor, you woul probably do fine with basic modern medical knowledge, since Western medicine usually caused more harm than good until modern times.

Just by using clean tools, not cutting veins to let out bad blood, not putting dirt in open wounds, and being able to identify common illnesses, you would do better than most doctors.
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 1:00:37 PM No.17865432
Even as an engineer, you are relying so much on preexisting materials and Methode and supply….
Even create electricity and a light bulb would be impossible in the Middle Ages.

What have been the great revolutionary inventions?
A loom? Don’t know how they work.
Steam engine, hm maybe a very simple version.
Book printing could be done. Building a public library.
Making hour glasses or lenses.

Inventing the stirrups if you go back long enought.
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Anonymous
7/23/2025, 6:25:20 PM No.17866107
>>17865143
peak midwiterry
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 6:27:26 PM No.17866111
>>17865432
>Book printing could be done. Building a public library.
do you know how to mass produce paper?
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Anonymous
7/23/2025, 7:45:36 PM No.17866273
>>17864088 (OP)
The only useful skill you can have is if you are doing something traditional, like carpentry, masonry, tailoring, smithing, fencing and such things people practiced back then. But this kinda sucks because you are just going to be a normalfag serf like everybody else.
I think the best thing anybody could do is becoming a fool/storyteller, wandering around as the man from the future telling tales about people flying, taming the elements, creating light by pressing a button, wars that involved the entire world, the far away places that hadnt been discovered yet and the wonders of the internet. People wouldnt take you very seriously, but there wasnt that much entertainment available so you could probably make a good living out of it, telling your stories at the tavern as people laugh and call you a fool. Of course depending on where and when you end up you need to tone down a few aspects, e.g. if you are in medieval Europe do not tell people everybody is an atheists and God doesnt exist or you are gonna get that tongue cut out. And dont tell the Romans that the Barbarians will surpass them in every way or you are getting your ass beat and sold off on some market.
You also shouldnt use your knowledge to speak prohpecsies. You may be blamed for something like Constantinople falling and get your ass beat, or people may start believing you and then every pleb and every noble in the lands will demand you tell them their future so good luck with that.
But if you do get a hold of nobility then you would make a great court advisor/jester. Even with a rudimentary understanding of modern economics, sociology and psychology(!) you will be far ahead of everybody back then, so you could add a completely different kind of thinking to the table which a wise ruler would appreciate.
And as a court jester you are set for life really.
So your greatest asset would be your modern way of thinking, but at the same time it would be the greatest danger to you.
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 7:48:39 PM No.17866279
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>>17864088 (OP)
I would be even more useless than i am now
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 7:49:36 PM No.17866280
>>17866111
Just the basics, I made some paper back in school. I think it’s possible to produce paper from wood.
But making something like soda carbonate to break down the fibers could be tricky.
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 8:00:59 PM No.17866310
>>17864088 (OP)
Do I get a portal to go forth and back? Because then I would just buy aspirin in bulk and became the richest man of all time healing people of their fevers.
Or I just download all the porn I can get on a laptop and rent it out for gooning sessions, again becoming the richest man of all time.
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Anonymous
7/23/2025, 8:01:33 PM No.17866311
they'd skin me alive dude I don't know how to watch my mouth and I am generally hostile to public displays of faith, I'd be set on fire
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 8:03:26 PM No.17866316
>>17865020
Anon owning things is a very hard job and you should feel privileged to even get to work on the fancy machines, now back to work wagie.
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 8:11:11 PM No.17866336
>>17864356
Comfy alchemist job
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 9:30:41 PM No.17866571
>>17866310
No but you get your smart phone. It never runs out of batteries and you can use th internet
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 10:20:46 PM No.17866669
>>17864088 (OP)
I've been peasant maxing for a decade now
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 10:27:02 PM No.17866684
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>>17864088 (OP)
I'd know what would happen in the future. That's of more importance than any math equation or formula.
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 10:28:38 PM No.17866687
>>17864376
>be white
Not even lol. My great grandfather was a janitor and that was enough for him to live comfortably in the middle class.
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 10:29:24 PM No.17866689
>>17864088 (OP)
Can someone please post that image of a Millenial sent to the Jesus times and when someone asks him "How do you make that electricity?", Millenial responds with "ugh, I don't know"
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Anonymous
7/24/2025, 2:48:41 AM No.17867257
>>17866689
You spin a magnet inside a copper wire, right?
I think that's how it's done. Zoomers win again.
Anonymous
7/24/2025, 4:10:19 AM No.17867356
I only speak English so that limits when I could go back. I might pass as a weirdo from a remote place back in the 17th century but further back I don't think I could help. Since I'm literate and have good handwriting I could make a living as a scrivener in a town or city. I also know a fair bit of mathematics and know how to handle volatile substances so if I were conscripted I'd probably end up in the artillery rather than the infantry, marginally more survivable. God help me if I wind up on a ship, though, I get terribly seasick.
Anonymous
7/24/2025, 4:18:22 AM No.17867369
>>17865020
Nobody paid 90% income tax. In the first place it was a marginal income tax bracket, not an effective tax rate, so it does not work the way you are imagining. Second, the top 1% in America in the 50s had an effective tax rate of 42% on average, after deductions. Higher than today, sure, but not outlandishly high. The top bracket being set at 90% was largely just for show. Not a single person ever paid it.
Anonymous
7/24/2025, 4:20:11 AM No.17867372
>>17864088 (OP)
I'd probably be useless but if I were sent back to Colonial America I'd look for my 10th great grandfather and explain my situation and hope he understands and teaches me the roped of being a laborer
Anonymous
7/24/2025, 6:34:12 AM No.17867501
>>17864088 (OP)
I'd introduce the theory of evolution