Thread 17993265

In almost every way, prove me wrong. In 1941 they had literal fucking horses as a logistical linchpin of their Barbarossa campaign.

>>17993265 (OP)
Every way except experience, training and officer corps. Basically German manpower was a lot better but the Americans had more of everything.

>>17993265 (OP)
Not our fault we didn't steal enough native land with oil wells to fuel motorized logistics.

>>17993265 (OP)
not only that, they had a HORSE SHORTAGE

From a material perspective wehrmacht was vastly inferior (all militiaria were) to the US. It's not even a debate. The US army was completely motorized and mechanized, while simultaneously enormous.

From a tactical perspective the wehrmacht was 'mostly' superior to the US. Obviously it's also necessary to seperate the Wehrmacht of 1939-1943 when it was largely well supplied, had a competent command, had high morale and experience, had clear strategic goals, was well supported by combined arms etc, and the wehrmacht of 1943-1945, which was the complete opposite; low experience, low morale, under-supplied, under-supported, centralized and detached command, lack of strategic direction etc.

Many times the wehrmacht lost to the US due to the overwhelming strategic disadvantage, not the tactical disadvantage. Tunis campaign is a great example of this where the inexperienced US army had a difficult time winning actual battles, but the overwhelming mobility and naval and aerial supremacy allowed them to trap the entire DAK on the continent and around the Tunisian coast.

>>17993326
>From a tactical perspective the wehrmacht was 'mostly' superior to the US.
ah yes, such excellent tactics
>charges 25 panthers head-on into American AT guns

The Wehrmacht knew they were inferior in terms of manpower, that's why they hoped to leverage mechanized warfare to give them an advantage over the allies, which in practice meant more tanks and armored vehicles with assault troops armed with STGs meant to scout ahead of armored convoy convoy and double as support troops for said armored units. These battle formations were designed to minimize needed manpower, again, with the expressed goal being to leverage machines and what they hoped would be superior industry.
The irony is one of the big things that held them back was state military orthodoxy. Hitler reportedly didn't like the idea of supplanting infantry with assault and support troops with intermediate cartridges, since his only point of reference was the First World War, where Infantry-Marksman were still the primary soldiers on the battlefield, and so as a result, the Nazis were slow to adopt the STG over their existing Kar98ks and submachine guns.

>>17993265 (OP)
>You ignorant servile scum!
he says as he fights his brother war so his granddaughter can marry a black man and his grandson can troon out

>>17993265 (OP)
The US Army relied on it’s superior firepower. The average Wehrmacht infantryman was a better soldier than the average American GI.

>>17993494
>Black People today make up only 10% of the US population (which is furthermore mostly contained in the south and rural areas) a lower share than they made up in 1776.
>Troons are even lower, maybe 1% of the population under the broadest loosest definition.
Stop letting media race baiting define your worldview.

>>17993265 (OP)
>The used up continent couldn't beat the ripely developing fresh continent in a fight

no other country on the planet could touch American manufacturing capabilities or resources

Germany had two very significant weaknesses:

>German engineering - much of their gear was overly expensive and complicated to manufacture and service
>using highly unmotivated slave labor to manufacture munitions

>>17993286
You were trying to do that, just against slavs. Don’t try acting morally superior about anything, kraut kuck.

>>17993638
had you seen a V-2 engine? complicated mess. American engineers quickly decided they could design a much simpler, easier to build rocket engine.

>>17993598
Russia

>>17993274
>Basically German manpower was a lot better but the Americans had more of everything.
400,000 Americans died to Germans while historians estimate 600,000 Germans died to Americans (not including civilians)

>>17993494
Germany declared war on America lol not the other way around

>>17993698
>Ru-AAAAAACCCCCCCKKKKKKKK!!!!!

>>17993715
lol ur an amerimutt

>>17993494
>>17993721
brown

>>17993265 (OP)
The Wehrmacht has better generals but otherwise you are correct they were inferior in terms of supplies, man power, technology (where it mattered not in wonderweapons) and resources

>>17993494
The vast majority of Nazis online are Brownoids

>>17993709
Yeah but we were mostly fighting low morale forces

>>17993532
>The average Wehrmacht infantryman was a better soldier than the average American GI.
by what metric

>>17993738
>The Wehrmacht has better generals
by what metric

>>17993265 (OP)
Stop watching american movies

>>17993794
More impressive feats in the war. Manstein, Rommel and Guderian were more effective commanders considering their resources were more limited

>>17993807
>Muh impressive feats
Feats only matter if you win. Any attempt to glaze Commanders of losing sides is cope.

>>17993809
well it's really just a numbers game isn't it

>>17993286
Skill issue. Shouldn't have spent centuries as a disunited mess of French rapebabies then.

>>17993265 (OP)
I mean it's not a really a fair question, is it?
If Germany had only half the size of the USA, noone could have stopped them

>>17993473
Stg44 wasn't even a game changer since the US army already had its counterpart, the M2 carbine

The US was using horses in 41 as well albeit in smaller numbers

>>17993715
>53% of US ammo production

Wtf? This one must be wrong. First of all, America didn't produce Russian (7.62×54, 7.62×25) rounds, so I have no fucking idea what does that statistic even referring to. And they sure as fuck didn't sent USSR 53% of their ammunition production either. For fuck's sake, the UK received 3x times as much supplies as USSR during ww2. Something doesn't add up.

>>17993882
>The US was using horses in 41

Yeah. As tourist attractions in carriages of New York.

>>17993265 (OP)

We didn't do so well at Kasserine

>>17993494
>I was glad when I saw them, that I had come back to the outfit and gone into Germany, for the trip, with its views of the lagers and prison camps, had finally convinced me of the need to drive the Germans from the face of Europe. How could a civilized nation run concentration camps and murder millions-and still fight for that way of life? How could a man fight for a nation that broke up millions of families, that put old women and little children to work in slave-labor lagers? The Third Reich was a cancer on the face of the Western man. I was glad now that I had played a part, however small, in helping to remove that cancer. Herbert Hoover, with his methodical, engineer's mind, could admire the Germans as an efficient and industrious race, but I was only sorry that I had not shot more of them
>I had never believed in the war until I had gone into Germany and seen what the Germans had in mind for the world: the slave labor lagers, the broken families, the men from Dachau; old women and little children worked to death in Ruhr factories. To me the Germans were a nation of barbarous psychopaths responsible for the first degree murder of ten to fifteen million Poles, Russians, and Jews, innocent civilians whose only crime was to have been born-Poles, Russians, or Jews. They had filled hundreds and hundreds of tank ditches with the bodies of men, women and children, had denied God and Christ to follow a satanic Messiah who promised them only murder on the vilest and vastest scale in history. A nation of animal lovers who had never understood people, the Germans had set out deliberately to exterminate the Slav, to annihilate the Jew, to murder all whom they disliked or who would not love them as animals loved them that had been taught to obey and beg for food. I wanted the Germans to be thoroughly punished-if I could ever catch Himmler, Hitler, or Goering I would take the greatest delight in making them die slowly

>>17993912
Where is that pasta from?

>>17993877
The M2 wasn't widely adopted until Korea, it saw virtually no use in the Second World War, production of the M2s only began in May of 1945 when the war was pretty much over. You might be confusing it for the M1 Carbine, the non-select fire variant, since that, by contrast, was widely adopted throughout the way, and was by a wide margin Americas most produced small arm of the war, but it wasn't competing with the STG-44, although many have made the argument that the M1/M2 Carbines were the first "assault rifles" and the .30 Carbine was the first intermediate cartridge.

>>17993884
The U.S.S.R. recieved 11 billion dollars from U.S.A. back when 11B dollars was 11B dollars.

>>17993265 (OP)
Apart from the Americans no army in the world was fully mechanized. The Soviets also relied on horses, many more than the Germans, until the Americans gifted them endless amounts of trucks and fuel.

The Wehrmacht simply did not have the raw resources to fully mechanise everything. Germany struggled for everything, from iron to oil, and many of their strategic moves were done to try and secure these supplies. But this isn't military inferiority.

All western nations realized that Auftragstaktik is the way to go since it's flat-out superior. But it requires an army of independently thinking high IQ men being able to serve 2 ranks above their station at any time so they can think about and understand the big picture. That's why the best military standard in the world is found in Prussian army traditions, which found its peak in the Wehrmacht.

>>17993265 (OP)
The US army was pretty horse heavy into the 30s and shockingly the huge industrial output of the country meant it could mechanize quicker than the country that was not allowed to have any tanks or tank industry until they broke with that rule in '36-ish.
The Nazis were just not good any many things or at least not as good as they thought and claimed. As much as they managed to mobilize the troops and the people, the industry was never capable of sustaining this kind of war effort.

>>17994044
>Apart from the Americans no army in the world was fully mechanized.
Thr British army was fully motorized and mechanized.
The difference was that the British army was very small, while the American army was huge.

>>17993274
Also doctrine and tactics.

>>17994044
>Apart from the Americans no army in the world was fully mechanized.
The Canadian army was fully mechanized.

>>17994077
All industrialized nations used animal labor during WWII. Pic related is the Brits using a circus elephant for the war effort. Germany had very advanced heavy industry and scientific research, but other sectors of the economy lagged seriously behind due to WW1

>>17993265 (OP)
>logistical
it is this. logistics is the shaft of the spear. this is my pallet jack, there are many like it but this one is mine

>>17994111
Nope, the British and American armies did not rely on animal-power, and your single anecdote doesn't prove shit.

Could animals be used for domestic purposes? Sure. Was a campaign depended on animals? No.

Again, it's slightly unfair comparison to compare the British army to the German and American army, because the British army was relatively small so it was far easier to maintain a high standard for motorized and mechanized ratio.
The American army however was, huge and was still able to carry itself without horse carts.
Pic related was something the Germans could barely comprehend even in their wildest imaginations.

>>17994046
>47 posts
>no mention of the fact that Germany did not actually mobilize for total war until 1944

>>17993886
>The 26th Cavalry Regiment (Philippine Scouts) (26th CAV (PS)) was part of U.S. Army Forces Far East's Philippine Department, during World War II
>The 26th engaged in the last cavalry charge in the history of the U.S. cavalry
>The American Battle Monuments Commission list 301 dead who were members of this regiment interred at Manila American Cemetery and Memorial.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/26th_Cavalry_Regiment_(Philippine_Scouts)

>>17994252
See
>>17994394

>>17994362
Germany was fully mobilized around 1938. At all times they had more women and children working than any western allied country.

>>17993473
>which in practice meant more tanks and armored vehicles
It just meant better force concentration, the total numbers were pretty much always against them.

>>17994394
Gee what would be the benefit of horses in a reconnaissance attachment in a poorly developed colonial terrain?
US border patrol in 2025 still use horses over vehicles for this exact same reason.

When we say fully motorized, it means that horses were not uses to support an entire campaign, it's logistical lines or army maneuverability.
It doesn't mean that horses weren't allowed to be present whatsoever and have no tactical purpose.
All you can do is finding anecdotes, and ignore looking at the broader picture.

>>17994518
>moving the goal posts this hard

Faggot

>le horses maymay
ok retard

>>17993654
that's why americans and everyone else for that matter copied the A4, and don't look up who they put in charge of NACA

>>17994547
How is it moving the goal post to say that US border patrol uses horses for limited purpises, yet this fact obviously doesn't suddenly mean that the US border patrol in its entirety now simply cannot sustain its organization, its logistics, its administration, its operation, its entire maneuverability, its entire infrastructure, without being horse-powered?
It's bullshit.

And the same goes for the US army.
Just because the US used horses for svouting missions in an underdeveloped terrain, doesn't mean that the US military from its up-and-down infrastructure organization wasn't completely motorized. It was. Soldiers and supplies rode on trucks, and tank divisions were never handicapped by the fuel gauge.

Cope and seethe.

>>17994624
You got BTFO because you didn’t do any research before making your retarded post. Take your L like a man nigger.

>>17994631
US army in ww2 was completely mechanized and motorized.
Your anecdotal mounted terrain scouts isnt going to be enough to change that overwhelming fact.

>>17993807
Explain using specific examples

>>17993265 (OP)
The Wehrmact was superior to the US in every human quality, bravery, ferocity, zeal, and competence, the qualities one lauds and seeks to embody the most.

The US was superior to all in sheer mass, population, munitions, material, quantity, those qualities associated with the asiatic horde. However, that itself would be too much praise to the Amerigolems, at least the mongol was a hardy warrior himself, the americanid would throw a fit if his chocolate bar wasn't packed in his lunchbox.

Its no suprise, a demoralized, outgunned, and outnumbered wehrmact, in a phase of the war where they knew they could at best fight for a status quo treaty, still humiliated the animals of western continent at the battle of the bulge.

Not to mention the entire North African campaign (Americans are more judaized and negriphilliac bongs) where the bongs having every advantage for years still where getting their shit pushed in for years by an foe that was completely cut off from support and in a foreign land. So much so the bongoids had to invent this delusion that rommel was some superhuman lmfao

It has only gotten worse as the amerigolem has grown more retarded and obese in his hard fought "peace"

>>17994700
I'd say demoralized and under-equipped germans fought on equal footing with americans especially considering they were the ones in defensive positions

>>17993948
....Annnnd how the fuck does that have to do with what I said?

>>17994556
It's not a ''memey'' you dumb fuck. Germany used more horses in WW2 than in WW1.

>>17994700
>still humiliated the animals of western continent at the battle of the bulge

They didn't, you retard. Germans lost that battle. Krautniggers were never special nor were they ever superior to others, you fucking cunt. Nowadays their army is a fucking joke, and they literally have to rely on Poland to protect themselves from Russia.

>>17993721
You're Slavic lol

>>17995746
There are Slavs and there are slavs

>>17993915

David Kenyon Webster's (the guy depicted in OP) own memoir, Parachute Infantry.

Honestly, it's unfortunate that Webster was unable to get the book published within his lifetime (largely because of its incendiary content) and that it was later completely overshadowed by Band of Brothers when it finally was in the 1990s. Webster captured the pure undiluted rage of those who saw the bestial nature of Nazism firsthand better than Ambrose could ever hope to.

>>17995184
"They used more horses" is a meaningless statement given how far the krauts got in WW1 vs WW2

>>17993265 (OP)
Obviously, that's why they won. The Americans could solo the entire WW2 verse

>>17993265 (OP)
At least the Germans had the balls to invade the USSR, the U.S. with all of its advantages was too pussy to even think about it.

>>17993265 (OP)
Yeah, yeah, just let me know when that superior fighting ability will result in america not being fifty percent ethnically replaced within sixty years.

>>17993791
By the metric of being a better soldier

>>17996618
Seethe harder Heinie

>>17996344
I don't think so, in Europe US army only had 69 divisions.

>>17997103
>Germans don't kill nearly as many of the Americans
>Americans kill shitloads of Germans
Explain to me how the side that doesn't lose as many men while on the offensive is somehow worse at being soldiers than the ones with more advanced weapons who are fighting from defensive positions.

>>17997449
>>Germans don't kill nearly as many of the Americans
>>Americans kill shitloads of Germans

Provide stats, or shut the fuck up Amerimutt. Germans literally fought the whole world in WW2

>>17993265 (OP)
>Loses with aerial, numerical, logistical superiority against 18yr olds and pensioners

>>17997632
They were on defensive you retarded imbecile.

>>17993265 (OP)
The fact they crossed more land, faster, with horses compared to the Americans demonstrates the Wehrmacht was big where it counts.
America's advantages werent its army, it was the weight behind its army, always having a huge logistical tail and vast resource rich fortress of a country to maintain such immense tooth to tail ratios.

>>17993877
The M2 was deemed inferior to the MP44 by the men that used it and ALL modern assault rifles follow the MP44 build. not a single modern assault rifle has anything in common with the M2.
MP44 wasnt a game changer because the game was decided in mid 1944, the Germans fought on in spite of losing due to the sheer herosim and willpower of the German BVLL.

>>17997449
>>17993791
Germans killed more Americans than Americans did of Germans DESPITE the huge disadvantage the German infantryman had regarding non-infantry factors (air support, logistical support, weaponry).

Dupuy's study which is today apart of the US Army War College Curricula deemed the average German man 1.4x more effective in combat than the average American man.

If we take divisional success and remove the worst German division and the best American division there is no overlap in whatsoever it is a complete blowout in favor of Germany.
Americans cant fight, they cant fight because their primary stock is from the British isles.
The racial heuristic is rarely ever wrong and the racial heuristic is vindicated by the US Army War College official curricula.
Americans are all talk, especially the Celtic stock from the American South where their soldiers come from.
This big talk is very neat when youre in iron age Briton and you gather round the two largest tards in the village doing champion warfare, but this type of behavior does not scale into modern warfare in the way organization and intelligence scales.
This is why Finns humiliated Slavs in the modern Era while they were enslaved in the pre-modern era.
This is why Germans humiliated Americans in the modern era while being decently matched by the ancestors of the Americans in the Iron Age during the Anglo-Saxon invasion of Britain.

British DNA does not scale well, neither does Slavic DNA.
Germanic (German and Scandinavian) DNA scales the best with modern warfare.

>>17993884
nope. the US did produce those rounds and they produced the material necessary for those rounds.
Stalin had to shut down Amtoward because it basically ran Soviet weapons production into the late 40s and it was becoming a problem for The Party.
A consistent theme of the USSR is being unable to actually maintain their progress and reaching a sharp decline which in the age of technology and industry saw them greatly outscaled by the US in progress.

Over 300,000 American and tens of thousands of native born engineers had to be removed from the USSR from 1922 to 1950 because of the huge powerbase they were creating within the USSR without actually holding official party office.
It was a consistent problem and when Stalin finally removed them down to a man the USSR collapsed to the point of humiliation.
The USSR was so thoroughly cowed by the United States they rescinded the Refusnik order when famines began to occur because the US was withholding grain shipments to the USSR.
Imagine America dangling bags of food over your head and telling you to dance.
The humiliation never ends for the Vatnig.

>>17997635
Being on the defense isn't always better, just look at operation barbarossa fucking dumbass.
For example the battle of Smolensk in 1941 was a 1:8 ratio in favour of germany.

>>17993709
nope.
less than 250,000 Germans actually died in battle.
If you want to say the US inflicted more casualties via capture then sure, because ultimately the Germans surrendered tens of thousands of men after being put into strategically hopeless situations, however if we are talking battlefield capability, tactical capability not strategic viability. The Germans inflicted over 50% MORE casualties on the Americans than they took from the Americans.
That is a huge disparity.

Americans cant fight.
the British isles produce men with small balls and Americans are mostly from the British isles.
These are retarded hicks from the sticks of alabamy and maine and tejas with tiny balls and narrow feminine builds going up against raging Teutonic Auroch empowered by Wotanic magic.
Just look at Americans today, short, squat, idiotic, they lost their country without even a fight, Germany fended off two superpowers and two empires for half a decade.
Americans cant even patrol a border the mesolithic Comanche tribes had maintained.

>>17993809
>Feats only matter if you win.
Napoleon is the most studied General in modern history, maybe in all of human history.
Hannibal is a close second.
Both of them lost their wars.
The "b-b-but I won" is retarded because political victory isnt a reliable metric for battlefield success.
I guess the taliban are superhuman because they defeated two nuclear superpowers back to back.
nukes must be useless, we should instead invest in Toyota trucks and cheap kalishnikovs.

>>17994044
>All western nations realized that Auftragstaktik is the way to go since it's flat-out superior. But it requires an army of independently thinking high IQ men being able to serve 2 ranks above their station at any time so they can think about and understand the big picture. That's why the best military standard in the world is found in Prussian army traditions, which found its peak in the Wehrmacht.
TRVKE
hyucking hicks from muttland will say "ahm jus here to faaht boe"
This is why they deserved every drop of blood taken from them when they invaded sacred Evropa.

We need to mobilize anti-Southern sentiment shitlibs have against the US Army (1941-1945).
It is an untapped harmony of interest.

>>17994083
>>17994252
The commonwealth fought in more than just Europe and they utilized animals often in the Pacific and West Asian theatres.

>>17994518
They use horses BECAUSE they are poor you retard.
Theyd use helicopters or all terrain vehicles otherwise.

>>17995196
>they lost
Leonidas also lost and yet his battle was the most heroic in human history.
>anti-German tirade
penis envy from hairless slavic femboys and Mutt Briton slaves with mutilated penii.

>>17996202
and Poles are slav(e)s.
>>17997361
>losing a war to rival the Iliad in significance is worse than losing without a fight at all
no?
America is a humiliating country to live in.
We surrendered everything over to the jews because the English are a people lacking in moral courage and moral will.
These are deranged people with a mode of thought that is extremely autistic compared to continentals and leads to very bad very damaging ideas about the world.
Shitlibism originated in English speaking parts of the world and had to be imposed on everyone else.
Now everywhere it is sees mass extinction level fertility decline.

>>17993265 (OP)
You are not wrong. All germany had were total numbers due to how complete their mobilization was and, in some units, more veterancy and skill. Overall training quality was inferior to the USA and their weapons were greatly inferior in quality, quantity or both.

>>17993709
Where the hell are you pulling your numbers from? US dead from all theaters were 250,000.

>>17993884
What if I told you you need gunpowder to put inside the bullet casing?

>>17997656
>the Germans killed more than
Stopped reading right there bro. We killed more and thats a fact. German losses outpaced ours by a hundred thousand.
>remove the worst German division and the best American division there is no overlap
Lmao thats not how this works. You take it all.

>>17994700
>quantity, those qualities associated with the asiatic horde.
Asiatic hordes historically speaking relied precisely on human quality, bravery, ferocity, zeal, and competence. They were regularly fighting enemies with far larger demographics and economies.

You sound like a self-hating amerimutt.

>>17993265 (OP)
MG 34/42 > BAR

>>17997461
>fought the whole world
>lost
Lol guess they should have thought twice about that one. I'm sure little Hans and Greta were cheering Deutchland as they got incinerated in Dresden lmao

>>17997699
>Leonidas also lost and yet his battle was the most heroic in human history.
That would be Stamford Bridge actually

>>17997781
Nope.
German battle deaths were significantly lower than American battle deaths and this is a well attested fact by military historians and is also found in the official curricula of the US Army War College
ALL serious US Officers learn of German superiority.
>not how this works
I thought you stopped reading?
Re-read the post.
That's not the own you think it is.
The BEST US division overlapping with the WORST German division is a humiliation for the US.
If anything its more charitable to put the Germans above the Americans categorically rather than say "the American elites performed as well as German conscripts in their teens and 50s."

>>17997806
And the heroic Norsemen lost the battle to cowardly Celtic subterfuge.

>>17997807
I'm sure you feel that way anon, but I sincerely doubt the army teaches how German DNA is better at warfighting considering they lost and lost hard.

>>17997810
Lotta cope and seethe in that post since Nordsissies got shitrekt despite holding a strategic advantage

>>17997819
>outnumbered
>no armor
>still hammer the Celtic """""English"""""
Im not the one coping.
>>17997816
Nope.
They do, they teach it because its true and highly relevant.
>they lost
The US lost to Afghanistan, should we abandon all our military doctrines?
>lost hard
yeah it was hard to beat them, it took a level of global mobilization on such a scale that it will likely never be seen again.

>>17993265 (OP)
Germans have generally been either unexceptional or bad at warfare, with only small bursts, like under Prussia of competence.
The Nazi Army was better than most Europeans, if only due to fanatical morale, but versus America, there never was a contest.
If the US started in Berlin and Germany started in Washington, the US would have still won WW2.

>>17993473
>which in practice meant more tanks and armored vehicles with assault troops armed with STGs meant to scout ahead of armored convoy convoy and double as support troops for said armored units. These battle formations were designed to minimize needed manpower, again, with the expressed goal being to leverage machines and what they hoped would be superior industry.
The issue there is that German engineering was pretty dogshit and prioritized speed of first concept->production over efficiency or usability.
It was more important for the Germans to put SOMETHING into production than for that thing being put into production to actually be good. Minimizing cost, despite their massive material limitations, wasn't a big factor, either.

The STG44 had a huge rejection rate on receivers, the part of the gun that contains all the operating bits, because it used an overly complex type of manufacturing that the Germans thought was a good idea at the time, got too invested in, and then had to muddle through.

>>17993738
American generals were all good at their jobs.
Every German general ate shit at some point because they sucked.

>>17994700
The one counterattack the Germans were capable of, the Battle of the Bulge, was a humiliating loss.
In Italy the Americans fought through horrible disadvantaged terrain and constantly crushed the Germans at every step along the way.

>>17997642
>The fact they crossed more land, faster, with horses compared to the Americans demonstrates the Wehrmacht was big where it counts.
This was a bad thing because German armies constantly stalled out when they outran their ability to be resupplied.
The US moved at a logical pace where they constantly maintained strong supply networks so every troop had access to good food, material, and ammo resupply.
The Germans failed at this basic rule.

>>17993265 (OP)

Nearly all armies of the world still relied on horses for logistics at that phase in the war.

>>17993532
It's almost like the individual soldier doesn't really matter in a war.

>>17998028
Early STG-44s were much higher quality than models from somewhat later in the war as Germany was rapidly running out of resources and time and had to switch to cheaper stamped sheet metal construction for their receivers over milled. I wonder if this might've contributed to this reputation.

>>17997647
>The M2 was deemed inferior to the MP44 by the men that used it
Why are you just baselessly making shit up?
The M2 wasn't even widely adopted in the Second World War. The War was pretty much over by the time they went into production, so I seriously doubt anyone would've been making these comparisons at the time in the first place because there would've been little of next to nobody who would've gotten contemporary field experience with both weapons.
Reportedly, many Germans actually did like the M1 Carbine, and captured M1s were given the designation Selbstladekarabiner 455(a) (Semiautomatic Carbine Number 455)

>>17997702
Poles are better people than germniggers in every way, and Germany is a shithole.

>>17997807
>German battle deaths were significantly lower than American battle deaths

This is false, you retard

>>17997684
Shut the fuck up,with your retarded mental gymnastics. The Germans were thoroughly defeated, and Wehrmacht destroyed.

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>>17997677
So you admit the inferiority of Celtic DNA and I2a and R1b-L21.