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No, H.P. Lovecraft is not considered an American hero; the term "hero" does not apply to him due to his controversial views. He was a highly influential American horror writer, known for creating the "Cthulhu Mythos," but also held deeply racist and bigoted beliefs that are widely criticized today. While his literary work is celebrated and has influenced countless others, his personal views prevent him from being classified as a hero.

• Literary influence: Lovecraft is considered one of the most influential horror writers of the 20th century, and his work created a subgenre of horror known as "cosmic horror".

• Controversial views: He was a racist who believed in the superiority of the white race and had prejudices against many other groups, including Jewish people, homosexuals, and immigrants.

• Personal life: While he had a circle of friends who considered him friendly, his personal views are widely seen as repugnant and are often a subject of debate when discussing his legacy.

• Distinction between artist and art: Many people argue that his work can be appreciated for its literary merit while still condemning his personal beliefs and the racism reflected in some of his writings.

>>18131502 (OP)
>Asks AI a loaded question
>Gets loaded answer
>*surprised pikachu face*
good thread anon no really this was definitely worth taking up space in the catalog

>>18131502 (OP)
>He was a racist who believed in the superiority of the white race and had prejudices against many other groups, including Jewish people, homosexuals, and immigrants.
In other words, he was a normal white person for his time. Retroactively crucifying the dead is retarded.

>>18131515
He lived in New York City during the Progressive era anon, his views were definitely not normal for his time/place, you're already decades too late (and also decades too early)

>>18131532
>Progressive era
He died in 1937, before desegregation, before the civil rights act, and before race mixing was legal. Back then his views would have been completely normal.

>>18131502 (OP)
Proto-larpagan

>>18131601
Not really, but was based

>>18131601
This. Christ is King. One race, the human race!

>>18131676
These two unironically look like bigger chads than any of the dweebs from /pol/

>>18131676
Based and christpilled, but still is euceminist.
We gotta define "christian", since you cant tell me a baptist is the same as a coptic christian.

>>18131676
>>18131688
>>18131699
cucks

>>18131507
> The more one learns about India, the more one wants to vomit.

Oh yeah, he was totally off base. Who would believe that today?

>>18131507
>>18131709
>Lovecraft said this during the peak of British rule over India
But I thought colonialism was le good thing...

I'd consider him a great author but hero is a bit of a stretch

Why would he be considered a hero? Because he wrote some short stories?

Its funny how the pin heads have a malfunction when confronted by the fact that non whites just were not in any way considered equal to whites within only about the last 100 years. Their brains are completely taken over by the idea that are Oceania, Eurasia, and Eastasia were always at war, the true past seeming unbelievable from within their fabricated understanding of reality.

>>18131716
you know he was referring to what the Brits were coming across right

>>18131502 (OP)
>asking Gemini a nonsensical question is now a valid thread here
And I thought you couldn't dig deeper below the subbasement of tw*tter screenshot threads

>>18131532
Him living in NYC gave him exposure to many races and ethnicities, which makes his racism all the more understandable.

>>18131502 (OP)
He was one of the last good ones


>In the matter of politics—I don’t go much with the younger crowd. I’m more interested in keeping the present 300-year-old culture-germ in America unharmed, than in trying out any experiments in “social justice”. Smith, to my mind, is a direct exponent of the newer-immigration element—the decadent & unassimilable hordes from Southern Europe & the East whose presence in large numbers is a direct & profound menace to the continued growth of the Nordic-American nation we know. Some people may like the idea of a mongrel America like the late Roman Empire, but I for one prefer to die in the same America that I was born in. Therefore, I’m against any candidate who talks of letting down the bars to stunted brachycephalic South-Italians & rat-faced half-Mongoloid Russian & Polish Jews, & all that cursed scum! You in the Middle West can’t conceive of the extent of the menace. You ought to see a typical Eastern city crowd—swart, aberrant physiognomies, & gestures & jabbering born of alien instincts

>>18131507
How was he so ahead of his time?

>>18131816
Lovecraft saw it:

I can feel no interest in the heterogeneous, traditionless industrial and mechanical empire which this nation threatens to become. Such a thing would not have enough coherence, continuity, memory-appeal, or identification with the historic stream to give me any satisfying sense of placement, interest, meaning, or direction. It might make a great nation—another Babylon or Carthage or Rome—but it wouldn't be my nation. What I belong to is the old English Colony of Rhode Island; and when that shall cease to have a cultural and psychological prolongation, I shall be a man without a country. I am too much of an antiquarian ever to feel a citizenship in a swollen, utilitarian national enterprise whose links with the past are cut, and whose instincts and sources have to do with scattered and alien people and lands and things—people and lands and things which have no connexion with me, and can have no interest or meaning for me.

And Howard agreed:

Once it was the highest honor to say: “I am an American.” It still is, because of the great history that lies behind the phrase; but now any Jew, Polack, or Wop, spawned in some teeming ghetto and ignorant of or cynical toward American ideals, can strut and swagger and blattantly assert his Americanship and is accepted on the same status as a man whose people have been in the New World for three hundred years.

>>18131688
You... have a point.

>>18131785
Isnt that vtuber a him?

>>18131688
I understand latinxes but what is literal SEAsian doing there? These guys and their whore women are living cumrags

>>18131688
I wonder how that one white guy felt walking into this meetup expecting to see other whites only to be met with a bunch of Mexicans.

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>>18131863
For those wondering yes, Lovecraft read Spengler and agreed with his views, you can see this very clearly in At the Mountains of Madness.
Also fuck the niggers who killed the last Spengler thread and allowed it to happen, we were having a real discussion on history, race and humanities you motherfucker dipshits, I have now over 20 threads filtered because of these faggots.

>>18131863
>Once it was the highest honor to say: “I am an American.” It still is, because of the great history that lies behind the phrase; but now any Jew, Polack, or Wop, spawned in some teeming ghetto and ignorant of or cynical toward American ideals, can strut and swagger and blattantly assert his Americanship and is accepted on the same status as a man whose people have been in the New World for three hundred years.

Americans used to be so based
What went so wrong?

>>18131948
Only other chuds agreed with him.
Normal people balked at Lovecraft's racism

>>18131972
why are you lying?

>>18131972
This
He was like the Kanye West of his day. People liked his works more than they liked his opinions

>>18131924
It's a Touhou, shove your vtuber nonsense up your ass

>>18131980
generational artist, mid racist

>>18131711
He writing the NIGGER at the end in all caps gets me every time.

>>18131972
Being racist was normal at his time, but Lovecraft was comically scared of everything outside of New England, including most of other white people (especially those whites who are not of Anglo or Norman descend) outside of New England.