fuck the resources

post work, reply to work, don't reply to crabs nodraws or friend simulator babble

previous: >>7642511

Hey since new thread just started.
I’m just wondering if this is good before I clean it up and fix that hand? The right is my reference.

>>7644652
try making the hand larger and more foreshortened and exaggerated and the arm in the back smaller

>>7644652
>turning Sig into a girl
heresy

>>7644664
What in the fuck is that

>>7644667
my flat wife

thread challenge

>>7644665
Who is that?

>>7644674
Holy photoshop. What is wrong with her face and eyes let alone her body

>>7644674
Not drawing that N

Help cant draw cute faces am permabeg.

>>7644679
you cant make cute things if you're not cute yourself

>>7644674
that's a man

>>7644679
have you tried having talent?

>>7644674
>Tags: Bad_anatomy

>>7644679
Try drawing more than 10 minutes a day retard

>>7644677
>>7644687
it's not photoshop she just looks like that
https://x.com/kimimo_purin/status/1885659286073983388

>>7644691
>haha its a video, it has to be real!!!
>meanwhile chairs metal frame is bending every time she moves
Kys coomer

>>7644696
are you aware of what happens to the back of a chair that thin when weight is placed on it

>>7644674
I... I don't get it...

>>7644696
bro never saw a thicc woman

>>7644697
>>7644699
lol
lmao even

nothing is working out and i feel like im ngmi . i try to draw but it looks bad even for a doodle and i just give up
what do

>>7644712
If you like it then do it. Don’t worry if it’s bad, you are doing what you love. So who cares? Just focus on improving

still a shithole

Holy shit mom git the cam Im in OP
>>7644712
push on anon, we're all amateurs at some points.

>in the OP twice
It's over

>>7644712
trad or digital? adding basic colours at the end makes it look better and less shit to look at imo
t. low beg

>>7644734
...i need sleep

>>7644698
Unbelievably ugly face.

tried doing more drawing and it goes poorly as per usual

>>7644769
decided to draw how I feel again though IDK if that's what I'm feeling and more just what I do with my feelings IDK my parents never taught me about feelings or expressing them

>>7644770
>feelings howie
rmao

>>7644690
But doctor, I do draw!
>>7644686
FUCK

>>7644795
You have work tomorrow bro

what are the criteria to get into the OP?

>>7644800
Depends on who makes the OP.
If all of the drawings are shit then OP chose the worst drawings for fun.

>>7644796
And so what? You bring it up only to piss me off?

>>7644800
Humilliation ritual.

>>7644730
bird :)

>>7644674
For me the hardest part was here face, she ended up looking like that fucking momo statue. Had no idea what I was doing just tried copying it. Maybe someone can point out what my biggest mistakes regarding her face were (not saying that the rest is good)

>>7644795
try drawing 4 hours a day
if you don't, then you don't like drawing

almost at 100 study files

>>7644800
i just pick stuff randomly and try to capture a variety of skill levels, i assume the others do too but idk
if you post something every thread you're bound to get in eventually

>>7644770
The tricky thing with feelings is that it gets triggered by "giving". So you receive the response on that giving action, wich it feels like real happiness when you feel that other's happiness. A mirroring effect, mirrors don't exist in nature, other people exist instead, and you see and feel yourself through them.
Modern human society got lost in the mirror device, a virtual reflection of oneself, a mirage, a fabrication, just a reflection in an inert object, similar to a shadow. Harming ourselves. The Narcissus tragic tale, wich ancient greeks knew and told about thousands of years ago already.
Care for something or for someone, and feed on their feelings, make them feel good if you want to feel good.

>>7644814
Mang there are days where that is barely how much sleep I get.
Do you think everyone is some neet or bum without obligations who can use his time as he pleases?

>>7644820
aw wtf you did such a beautiful portrait of her, that's actually really sweet. she actually looks happy. thank you for this peril, paige deserves it

>>7644821
do you have 2 jobs or something?

Oops. Posted to the wrong one.. Funger style study. Did I do well?

Didn't notice new thread was up, so reposting.

Botched the line weight in the face for this two subject interaction study while trying to understanding how line weights are supposed to work.

>>7644770
paige do you have a discord i can add you on? (I'm the speaker of the house)

>>7644809
CAW

>>7644829
Also pls critique hair. I think it's the first time they've turned out alright.

>>7644220
Thank you for the tips! I think I got it a little closer this time. I will definitely try drawing more bald people going forward
>>7644625
Thank you, this is great. Would I find more in depth explanation of facial anatomy in a figure drawing book? I want to start with figure drawing but I'm not sure if I should start with Hampton or Loomis

>>7644815
I'm ultrabeg, but wouldn't the shoulder bending in the opposite direction of the hips make more sense in this pose?

>>7644839
If it's an intentional pose where she stands upright maybe, butt that's a great lethargic/drooped pose assuming that's what they were going for.

>>7644839
I'm ultrabeg, but while the shoulder bending in the opposite direction of the hips would probably be a more comfortable position, this is is also completely possible and normal imo.

>>7644841
>>7644840
I see. I guess I lack knowledge in pose expression. I'm trying to visualize the spine in 3d but i'm not able to yet it would seem.

>>7644821
Nigga are you working in a coal mine?

>>7644828
More

>>7644848
Literately just try the post IRL. Its what i did lol. Its def possible but of off balance is making me feel uneasy. Shoulder bending in the opposite direction of the hips cancels this out this out is.

>>7644848
It's fine. I'm a beg too so I can't criticize your for it, but maybe try doing some 360 degree refs at 0,90 and 180 degrees from the reference thread? Then you'll be able to see how the spine in in any certain pose and build an intuition?

>>7644852
fuck im having a stroke

>>7644854
U aight m8?

>>7644852
I think it looks weird to me since i'm still using wrapping lines training wheels to determine rotation, and my mind is picking up the right bending midline curve leading into the navel as an "error". Like if I cover the ribcage and above, the leg and torso look mismatched to me, but I assume the issue is on my visualization.

a lil dude

>>7644854
Pawell..?

How do I actually force myself to draw? I've been wanting to draw for nearly 2 years now and have barely made any progress towards that goal. I've only done one Loomis face like 2 years ago and haven't done any exercises or line work since then. I've been trying to get myself to draw, but all of it looks too complicated and exhausting for me. I've tried multiple different strategies, but they never seem to work. I've tried forcing myself to draw, but can only make myself draw circles for barely 30 seconds before stopping and looking at my phone again.

I've got a couple of drawing books and a drawing tablet for my PC and barely touched them.

My shaky hands fuck up every drawing I make, and I can barely do lines without fucking them up. I can't use my shoulder, I only feel good using the motions of my fingers.
Pic related is the only thing I've managed to do in the last couple of months.

>>7644861
get a job

>>7644863
I already have one. Still nothing.

>>7644864

>>7644829
perfect proportions but bad line quality makes me think you traced this. Nothing bad with that per se but i’m pointing this out to justify why i’m ignoring giving proportions any praise.

There aren't many sketchy or hesitant lines. but that makes me think you are not trying to do the hard work of failing and are simply printing out a photo of a woman and then tracing her. But then there’s those ugly breasts.

You seem to be at a very beginner level, try to not press the pencil down all the way when you want it to be lighter.

Practice value range rectangles with your pencil to get used to using your pencil like an artist, not as if you’re writing notes in your college composition notebook.

And actually do the exercise. Simply thinking about it won’t put the muscle memory of how hard you should press your pencil down on the paper. picrel. Do that first. Trace the same photo again after doing the pic i sent.

>>7644859
Love this.

>>7644861
You have a great future designing action figures. Just add accessories to them. Hats, boots, helmets..

>>7644877
I don't know how to do that. Everything looks too complicated for me.

>>7644881
just dress up as a cute girl and you will be the best of the best

>>7644884
I don't know how to do that.

>>7644868
>it's another tracing schizo episode

>>7644868
>Traced
Copied from reference but purely visually and no grids. No trace. Ref in picrel and I'm too poor to print it out to trace it as well (Also got the angle slightly wrong). I just have got a good sense of proportions and I have built my own construction techniques for the body over the last 8days and I draw with a 3H pencil first and repeatedly erase/correct until things look right and the do linework on that.

I'm already looking more at the page than the reference to fix proportions, so I'll take the trace part as a complement, ty.

And I'm doing the lines with a pen, not a pencil and a very cheap (around 10 cents a piece) gel ink based ballpoint pen that just spills it's ink everywhere like crazy and and I tried to do light lines with it on a separate page and it just wouldn't do it. So those are the lightest lines I can muster (except when the pen malfunctions and sends in less ink lol) and I'm trying to do thicker lines by repeatedly going over it and thickening it (yes I repeatedly went over thickening those lines on the face like a retard, but again, that's why I'm doing this linework, to study and fail.)

And I recently did a value study with a 9B pencil and I think I can do that value exercise pretty well with that pencil.

I just don't understand where I'm supposed to put thicker lines until I pull my face away and realize I've fucked up.

don't reply to howard he's already running 3 threads on the catty

>>7644891
but i think he would look cute if he cross-dressed :(

>>7644891
Imagine if we had jannies here

>>7644868
Picrel is the value study I did just yesterday, but thanks for the input anon.

I just want to know what lines should be thick and what not.

>>7644814
>4 hours a day
There’s nothing on the planet I would want to do for 4 hours a day.
If you just WANT to do a crazy amount every day then that’s great, don’t let me stop you. But if you can’t improve on 2-3 hours a day then you’re doing something wrong and you need to reevaluate how you’re studying.

>>7644897
NTA but unironically what should you study? There are so many courses and books i don't even know where to start.

>>7644898
Worthless beg opinion but-
Just draw. And draw whatever. References, life study, anything. Just focus on one fundamental for any study and do that. Make some landscape drawings for perspective, draw muscular subjects for muscular anatomy, do linework on finished work and then greyscale your reference to study and replicate the values.

>>7644895
we used to, they would delete furshit. not anymore

>>7644897
>There’s nothing on the planet I would want to do for 4 hours a day
Sleep? Live? Breathe?

FLAT

>>7644651 (OP)
Artemis walking home from one of her drag shows in the 90s

How do I make myself draw?

Is the New Master's Academy worth the full year price, if you want to learn how to draw traditionally? Has anyone ever tried it?

You ever spent too much time trying to pull off a pose from imagination only to realise shit just feels boring as fuck?

drew a number of faces from the mind
was tough
feels like some turn out well but others don't and I don't really know why yet

>>7644820
oh damn nice drawing ty very kind
and yeah I've been making sure to pet my dog and give him a lunchtime cookie a little early today bc yeh it does make me feel better

>>7644830
no sry I don't really do discord

I think I'm finally losing my fear of painting, i see a lot of mistakes on it, but it's better than nothing.

Is there any tutorial on traditional painting style on digital without using a million layers and editing tools? It's so fucking unintuitive and boring for me painting that way that it was one of the reasons i really didn't like painting in the first place, since actual traditional painting materials to practice are quite expensive for me.

>>7644932
meds map has a chapter on painting alla prima, you can check that out
that said, it's more difficult than layer based workflows imo

>>7644835
Tried to apply anon's critique and tips

why are you depressed because of art? it should make you happy wtf

>>7644942
this thread bullies out anyone who has a remotely positive view on art

>>7644942
I don't think art makes you depressed. It's depression that makes you feel bad about art

>>7644660
Does this look good? Thanks for the redline guy from last thread !

>>7644942
Being bad at what I want to do depresses me.

>>7644942
the likes the expectation keep relevant keep relevant aaargh kill me

>>7644952
>>7644957
Who the fuck cares? You doing it for yourself! Who the fuck are you imagining competing with? Compete with yourself!

>>7644890
>>7644829
Line weight is something you will master as you draw more; the more information you have about a subject, the more of an instinctive 'feel' you will have on what to emphasize.

A general rule, though, is that outside silhouettes have heavier line weights. When you begin to understand anatomy and planes, heavier line weight emphasizes the overlapping of forms or the protrusion of bones. Line weight, however, is usually an afterthought. You will pick it up the further you progress.

>She is about to go on a morning jog

>>7644963
how r u so good but so bad at the same time,

>>7644967
What do you mean :D

>>7644967
PYW crab

>>7644967
All of his drawings are heavily referenced (or possibly even traced) from Kaedeko's work.
https://www.pixiv.net/en/users/20871532

>>7644963
is this from imagination? you've been hiding your power level cyclops sama
>>7644839
>>7644840
yeah, i did try having the shoulders in the other direction but i didn't like the sassiness for the character

>>7644973
oop

>>7644973
I sometimes use references but I try not to use them too much as I usually end up copying way too heavily from them. I want to learn to draw clothes and render like kaedeko so I usually use his drawing as reference.
>>7644975
I used my previous drawing as reference it was the same pose but different angle. I wanted to try drawing it from above as a challenge. Thank you

Finished my Igor and my first real study. Took 2 days filled with procrastination and 5hrs of actual drawing. Right arm of Igor makes me laugh

>>7644986
How in the FUCK does the upside down Igor exercise take 5 hours? This is like a 20 minute classroom exercise that you're not supposed to put a ton of effort into.

>>7644988
crab

>>7644986
Looks good dude. Face sorta reminds me of Disco Elysium.

>>7644988
lol I never actually drew anything before honestly. also a lot of the time was spent in hesitation trying to see where the lines would negotiate with one another
>>7644991
Thanks. I will improve

>>7644983
You've actually improved a lot by copying. I'm impressed. Don't listen to crabs as copying the artists you like is what every beg should try doing

>>7644996
Thank you. I'm glad to hear that :D

>>7644669
Its hideous

sketchy sketch

Can someone redline the arms for me? I feel like the arms are generally correct but not connecting up to the body properly I really don’t understand big muscles

Are we just going to ignore that this nigger is tracing AI?
https://x.com/Nihu77/status/1944441107875602735

>>7645031
prove it or fuck off

>>7645031
Favelabros... it's over...

>>7645031
honestly don't know why you niggas are obsessed with him. you can see the month to month progression and that he's putting in the hours.
is it really just jealousy? put in the time and effort instead of shitposting here

>>7645031
face is a dead giveaway but fuck you want us to do

>>7645043
prove it

does anyone have any of tomboyfag's earlier art
i only started checking here after he got good

>>7645045
his lineart/sketches has looked the same for ages, he just learned to paint. that's it. his sketches are still messy, but you can cover up weak line work and inaccuracies with painting

>>7645047
are u him by any chance

>>7645048
no, just someone who's been there. he just paints over his sketches. subu does this as well. they both have extremely rough sketches and weak lineart, but are good at painting. that's all you have to do. focus on painting if you want to get that good, the rest doesn't matter.

>>7645050
prove it

*cries*

>>7645054
Understandable.

>>7645052
he posted a recording of his process.

>>7645059
>no link
its not looking good for you nigu

anyways, it's unlikely he's tracing ai, just heavily referencing and color picking from it.

>>7645047
damn deadass? i guess it makes sense, i didn't start posting anything until i had stuff from imagination that i thought was alright enough to show people

>>7645077
don't take it as an insult, you've gotten really good at painting. you don't need to be good at sketching or lineart when you can paint appealingly. i'm saying this in defense of you, not to harm you.
your sketches have looked more or less the same since february-march but your painting skills have improved astronomically.

>>7645064
>>7645077
>>7645082
ur colors are limited by the ai's vae and u don't seem to notice btw, also ur lines are clearly traced, also ur gay

>>7645082
lol sorry i'm still the guy you replied to
i did notice that he still has those unclean lines though, even when you zoom in on some of the recent stuff that's really well rendered you can see little fuckups

>>7645050
We know its you subu
Go trace some more AI

>>7645088
yeah, that's why I doubt he's just tracing and using AI as a reference. the fact you can still see those rough imperfections when he paints over is enough to prove it for me. at most, he's AI color picking like subu, which would track since subu taught him. but even then, by this point he's probably understood the basics of rendering enough to do it manually.

>>7645090
does this nigga always samefag this much

>>7645091
who's subu i could never find that out from the archives

>>7645090
not subu, subu obviously uses AI lol

>>7645092
Always
Talks about himself in the 3rd person as if we don't know its him and defends AI usage. Every time

>>7645095
there's no excuse for AI usage, i just don't think tomboyfag is doing it outside of color picking because if he was, why are the fundamentals and sketches still so rough? why is his sense of foreshortening still broken like with the Miku? doesn't fit

>>7645095
this general is fucked lol

>>7645096
he cant draw a straight line but he can draw bundas and feet in perspective, H-HE'S JUST LIKE RUAN JIA!!!

>>7645096
Shut up subu, go back

>>7645098
saying he can draw feet in perspective is a bit generous

>>7645101
yes, cause he traces. u dense nigga

>>7645104
watch your mouth little boy pretending like you're hot shit on an anonymous underwater basket weaving forum in the /beg/ thread no less.

>>7645036
i wish they just left me alone
i'm already having a bad day enough

>>7644674

>>7644674
woops forgot to crop out my retardation

>>7645114
whats your favorite 2hou character? i will make something to cheer you up

sticking to my word

>>7645129
not really a fan sorry, you can make your favorite then

>>7645134
aww bro I'm sorry people are getting on you so much

>>7645030
>I really don’t understand big muscles
There's a lot more you don't understand. Everything in this image is disproportionate. Draw more from life. Study more anatomy. Learn the basic construction of the human figure at the very least.

>>7645136
thanks, that's just annoying and ruins the thread, the main problem is depression lmao

>>7645133
how do u draw so much so fast

>>7645146
severe ADHD, I've drawn dozens of other things that I haven't posted because I said I would only post "real" drawings and not schizo drawings now. i speed maxed months ago, you can't really get much faster than I am now.

>>7644674
quick one

>>7644811
for me it was the hand and foreshortened forearm, like how i draw this correctly lol.
Anyway you missed forms of noce and mouth and made it a bit flat. Observe distance between parts of face carefully.
On ref you got short distance between nose and her left cheek, nose is overlaping this area so it apears smaller and also it is slightly foreshortened.
On your drawing nose and mouth are on ceter where on ref they are sticking out to right side of picture.

I'm gonna stop and draw more coom sketches now. I even might do an alt account for them.

>>7645152
Blog

>>7645044
Proof won't be posted because it isnt true. Subu is unironically mentoring him. Subu usually asks for a focus on color accuracy which is why hes so good at painting and color.

Not much motivation rn but here's a quick page so I'm on today's scoreboard

>>7645154
hi subu lmao

>>7645157
I accept your concession

>>7645153
https://x.com/nemojona

how do i get a cool art mentor to take me under their wing

>>7645161
just go to his Discord server and massage his/her ego

>>7645140
How does it look now? Hit it with the warp tool and refined some bits. What areas in specific are looking off?

>>7645160
>That good
>Barely above a thousand followers
>Cant break more than 200 likes per post at most
Why is life unfair?

>>7645161
Draw fat gay animal men have gay fat animal sex daily.

>>7645167
I dont post that often and I'm rather unfocused in style and themes. That's how I cope at least.

>>7645167
If he draws mostly OCs then 1000 followers is pretty impressive.

>>7645168
if that got someone a mentor I would have like 12

>>7645166
>What areas in specific are looking off?
Head/face
Neck
Shoulders
Arms
Hands
Chest
Abdomen

Just try redrawing the entire thing. That's what a redline would basically entail.

>>7645174
you're really exaggerating how bad it is

>>7645134
i made a sassy tomboy and nazrin, hope u like it. also sorry that my lines are a bit shaky

>>7645176
Based AI enjoyer

>>7645176
so good so fast??? thanks anon, you deserve 1000000 followers

>>7645176
Based slopper pig.

>>7645170
What was that beanmouth calarts slop artist that had like 700k followers and drew the most cursed porn ever?
>>7645169
but you are good.

>>7645175
There are fundamental problems that can't be addressed with a quick fix. It's still in an early stage, so redtawing the entire thing is a valid option.

*cries more*

>>7645031
He was tracing from start, it's gonna hit him soon or later. Wonder how strong is his guilty conscience.
Being honest i feel bad for him.

>girl insistently DMing me
>think she really wants to be my friend
>turns out she was just trying to sell a commission

>>7645192
Proof?

>>7645184
Thank you anon, but I need to be even better :)

>>7645187
the head chest and abdomen are fine

nice good thing this board has moderators

>>7645200
p-paige?

>>7645200
OP-worthy image tbqh

>>7645200
only post ur thighs if ur skinny, i was eating, u have ruined my appetite

>>7645200
hey shawty

>>7642683
Page 6 done. So yes, he will have to torture the woman that he just fell in love with. She's serving time for a disclosed crime, and she's now being used as a living prop by the system in exchange for home detention instead of prison. Life is tragic, but love conquers all at the end, not without some pain tho...
>>7644282
>I just fear that one day you might never post again and then ill never be able to find your work.. also thank you, you saving my stuff
Don't worry, I will always prefer to post here, because is fast and convenient. Also I have a tendency to abandon projects in mid process, and people really hate that, like a lot. So it would be wise for me not to feed hate out there in the wild, lol
Thank you! I love your work too!

>>7644920
>oh damn nice drawing ty very kind
No problem fren, glad you liked it! Much appreciated! Please be well.
>>7644825
Thanks anon! I'm here to serve
>>7644730
Based ballpointer
>>7644913
This is some PRO shit, thanks for sharing anon
>>7644932
COOL!!! Is that from Legacy of Kain?
>>7644963
The thumbnail look particularly good in this pic, the shadow does the trick. Excellent piece.
>>7645151
Nice legs! and hair!

>>7645250
Thank you, i'm really impressed with your storytelling. Inspirational stuff anon.

>>7645250
>Excellent piece.
Thank you so much! I'm really glad you like her

Droooing

>>7645191
Bottom left is looking good, keep grindin'

>>7645264
I feel like green zombie’s neck is a bit longer

>>7645265
Thanks, it's starting to make more sense little by little
>>7645264
This is awesome

>>7645198
It doesnt exist

pre bath drawing
maybe I should practice mpreg 4 the keks
or work on improving fundamentals :/

>>7645264
pls don't do the battery thing irl that will kill a person

>>7645270
>too long
just say it's yaoi and the hands can be as big and long as you like
okane ga nai is a good example of silly yaoi anatomy if you want an example

>>7645293
>pls don't do the battery thing irl that will kill a person
Brother it's just a 9 volt battery, chill. You never clipped your nipples onto one of those? It's great.

>>7645303
I'll stick to a tens unit or a stun gun thanks

I've drawn this one fucking face 30 times trying to figure out how to translate it into something fuckable while being recognizable and not conventionally attractive kms

>>7645303
>>7645310
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EryxPW8dj8s

>>7644674
continuing the doodles

>>7645317
can someone explain to me what about these looks off? they're really good superficially but something is wrong

>>7645317
i hope ur joking abt considering those just "doodles"

>>7645319
>inb4 it's AI trust me

>>7645319
which is giving you the impression of being strange
top right I used this pic from another thread btw

>>7645319
face a bit too big for the head. looks like the back of her skull is missing sometimes too. tiny ass neck. 2d anime abstractions can make it look flat which contrast strangely with the more 3d bodies. babby face versus adult body.
head disconnected from the bodies
breasts are large enough to be consider abnormal, often they will look strange because they hide so much of the upper body.
lines not clean enough to be finished lineart but not sketchy enough get away with just being a sketch.

basically, because he's decently skilled but drawing in his comfort zone, it's a bit lazy/unpolished/on autopilot. you can see the different by comparing the dudes versus the ladies.

>>7645328
does this also come from copying anime instead of learning to draw formally first?

>>7645264
I really like the purple one's head tilt. Teach me

>>7645200
What are those weird rashes on your leg?

>>7645341

*cries a little less*

How to draw cute faces in perspective

>>7645322
rkgk

>>7645349
1. google cute faces in perspective
2. draw them

>>7645351
ARe you capable of animating a face rotating? I cant.

>>7645353
you could if you drew rotated faces

>>7645354
No I cant. I cant draw rotated faces.

>>7645345
look up will weston for hands nigga. It might save your life

>>7645356
yeah you can, just google some and draw them. pretty easy stuff

>>7645356
essential head drawing video for fundies I think. combletely free

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2T7cDY7YDsg

>>7645360
I love that nigga so much,

>>7645319
boobs too big

>>7645356
loomis

>>7645369
cute

>>7645369
Is that your work? I dont think you applied Loomis well enough

>>7645369
>Trying to give advice with this
anon...

where's your go to for nude poses?

you may not like it, but this is peak female form

>>7645362
I will shill dis video always. I still can’t do forward facing niggas but quickly sketching heads, no polishing, maybe 5 mins of practicing concepts in video helped me I think

>7645369
R.I.P.

bro got crabbed to death

>Deleted
Why?

>>7645401
It's easier to write posts like >>7645386 instead of applying loomis correctly

>>7645404
How are those two posts related? Are you schizo?

>>7644651 (OP)
2nd piece. I tried shading this time.

>>7645406
Cute

>>7645359
I'll check him out, thank you

>>7645401
It was a permabegschizo's art, i deleted because people were making fun of him

>>7645425
based janjan

>>7645425
>Posts permabegschizo art to mock him
>Deletes it when others mock him too
Make it make sense.

I got a new follower today and he liked a ton of my art and retweeted a couple.
I feel a bit self-conscious.

there is an awful disconnect between the different things I want to do to the point where I've learned a bit of many different things instead of learning enough of a singular thing to be good at it

>>7645438
whats ur blog?

>>7645441
well some people get good at doing one thing then get stuck in their comfort zone and are too scared to try new stuff, so it can be a doubled edged sword. in the long run it's best to develop strong fundamental skills as they are shared across mediums and subject matters.

>>7645442
There is nothing worth looking at there.

>>7645445
coward

>>7645438
i've had people declaring themselves my fans, it's cool

>>7645448
There is nothing but disappointment there. Always feel like I am being gangstalked when I get a new follower.
>>7645450
Yeah its cool.

>>7645451
stop being insecure n just link the blog

>>7644651 (OP)

last drawing for now, I think it turned out really well!!

>>7645453
he thinks you'll make fun of him

Something for fun to cap off a ton of grinding

>>7645476
I really like the way you do the clothing folds.

>>7645477
There are none??

>>7645467
and he is right.

>>7645495
u arent me

>>7645250
yup, yesterday i was so let down by the remaster ost that i got in a weird way inspired to draw that night lol

>>7645496
I still dont want others to look at my shit and recoil.

>>7645513
unless u have ur full legal name, face and address on ur blog who cares
just link it
pls

>>7635363
>>7637137
>>7638453
>>7638774
>>7639760
>>7642722
>>7645512
my drawings over the past week

I understand now how perma/beg/s end up schizo.
I need to try something different, but I am going to try one more sketch this way tonight I think...

>>7645524
>I understand now how perma/beg/s end up schizo.
This only happens if you don't try to improve and do the same mistakes over and over again and then obsessively cry about it

>>7645538
I feel like its either a perfect troll or these are the people who only want to draw things that could make them money rather than drawing things they like, in a style they want to emulate, for fun etc etc

>>7645532
I've really been trying to improve yet somehow I always end up right back where I started

>>7645542
You fuck up in the same ways with every drawing you do, have you not considered drawing in a different process?

>>7645542
>>7645550
try it

>>7645550
posting the other pages of this sheet in case anyone wants to try

>>7645557

>>7645550
I've been trying the ball method for weeks now and consistently fuck it up every time

>>7645560
>>7645552
Do a few of these, trace the images if you have to to get a feel, then try your own. It's not that hard if you grind, eventually you will understand how it works

>>7645561
>>7645560
sure yeah I'll keep trying. What you posted looks a bit different than what's presented in Fun With a Pencil. Thanks anon for the encouragement

>>7645566
Just keep going man it'll be alright. Loomis is good, but doesn't really translate well into anime style I feel. That's why your eyes are always too high and the jaws are too long. If you're not going for an anime style then disregard what I posted and try to look for another method for realism, I couldn't help you with that because I don't draw realism

speedpaint study

ngl I am a bit worried that my immediate emotional response was to try and push back because I've already changed my drawing process multiple times

>start out painting solid colors to form a silhouette
>switch to sketches and outlines
>start using photo references and techniques for improving body proportions from reference
>try to use loomis' face method
>tried using pencil and paper instead of sketching digitally

>>7644714
how can i focus on improving when im not improving and every stroke i make is worse than the last

>>7644962
Thank you anon, I tried to slow down and incorporate the idea of what you're telling me to the drawing, trying to have thicker lines where I feel there should be more weight and where two different objects meet and I think the left girl turned out a little better now.

And I figures out how to do a lighter stroke with them pen (use it sideways lol) and so I did the right girl with light + normal strokes. I'll continue to practice and improve.

Much thanks.

Still, pls critique before I move to doing a value study of this.

I also haven't doodled or drawn from imagination in a couple of days so I'll take some time to do that. Studies are exhausting.

>>7645524
You really are on the track to become yet another permabeg. Save yourself from dire fate and actually pick a book and/or course on drawing. Keys to drawing, drawing on the right side. On /ic/ torrent there are good Brent Eviston's courses for beginners. You are not going to conjure up drawing skills from thin air. You need to study and learn. Both your observational and anatomy skills are prebeg. Either take learning a skill seriously or your art will forever be chris-chan tier.

>>7644936
How do you feel about the colors?

>>7645571
speedpaints do nothing at this level

Is there a particular reason this board hates proko? Should i skip his courses?

>>7645628
post your work or i dont believe you

My latest drawings

>>7645161
It’s genuinely depressing to try and be a mentor for a beg. I don’t wanna do it again

tired, drawing slow today. yesterday was faster
https://files.catbox.moe/noirye.mp4
>>7645648
depends on the person but if its one of those schizos who never improve but just complain about not being able to draw, yes its a nightmare

always suspicious when someone who's been struggling for months suddenly improves

>>7645652
who

>>7645653
you can guess

Last time I posted I was picked on because of symbolic drawing, so like a good /beg I tried to work on it to get any better.

Suggestions are welcome in all forms

>>7645636
his instructional stuff is fine, it's mostly just memes
he's hateable because of his reedit humor and it's easy to shit on him because of the kangaroo incident

>>7645657
Stop shading

>>7645661
Isn't it either shading or symbolic lines?

Can you provide a sample so I can understand how to go on?

>>7645655
tomboyfaggot?

>>7645669
no

>>7645652
>>7645655
(You)

>>7645673
idk then, if youre the same person who sneeded about my improvement yesterday, i tried to help you but you deleted your discord so theres nothing more i can do.
you can be sus all you want, i always post videos of when i draw, and i drew the sketch on stream yesterday with several other people that browse this board, so you can ask them.
that being said, posting another video.
https://files.catbox.moe/25257m.mp4

>>7645685
not you either

>>7645686
hmm im out of guesses then. maybe use the time you use to complain here to draw and improve. that'd be a better use of your time

>>7645692
how long have you been drawing

>>7645692
You know he doesn't draw. That's why he is so focused on others

>>7645693
september last year
>>7645694
that makes sense honestly. if he is the person i think he is, all he does is complain instead of trying to improve

I've noticed that people in their 30s tend to progress a lot faster than people in their teens/early 20s

>>7645657
wdym work on it? symbol drawing means you’re not using reference. are you using it now or not?

>>7645699
Probably because they have a goal in mind, most teen/20s artists are still looking for a unique style. They usually tend to be more creative in terms of style since they were focused on what they wanted over what was expected.
>>7645685
Looks good! I do think the head and neck don't mesh that well though. The head feels small in comparison to the neck.

>>7645716
>I do think the head and neck don't mesh that well though. The head feels small in comparison to the neck.
yeah its fucked, but its good enough for now, dont wanna waste more time on fixing it as i set a timelimit for 2 hours on this one

>>7645716
>most teen/20s artists are still looking for a unique style
31 and kinda suffering from this, slowly overcoming it by narrowing down two artists I like and just combining elements from them

>>7645648
i can draw ok i have no mental illnesses and i don't complain about retarded howie shit bro please

>>7645716
>most teen/20s artists are still looking for a unique style.
I've been called tf out

>>7645695
Favelanigger we all know you are tracing AI.
Being able to draw finished pieces but struggling to portray the most basic linear perspective because you cant get the AI to use it is a dead giveaway.
Your lines being shitty and chicken scratchy when doing reference studies and struggling to portray their perspective just shows you skipped the most basics of fundamentals.
Your pictures scream of AI because you and every nigger that uses AI to colorpick doesnt understand that they are also copying the same range of values it uses.
To top it all off you are one of Subunigger's proteges just like LunaticSoda who also just got out of his slump by tracing AI

>>7645730
>Your lines being shitty and chicken scratchy
>no drawings attached
I accept your concession shizo

>>7645730
no i think you got me mixed up with tomboyfag, that isnt me lol. i just enjoy drawing men i dont draw women much

anyway finished this for now. no time to shade further

>>7645733
how do you do the hands?

>>7645734
i draw them
sadly drew this on stream yesterday so i dont have a recording of it or i wouldve shown you

>>7645695
Wtf only since last year.. so goated

>>7645735
oh I meant do you construct them

>>7645737

>>7645737
I don't really. Hands and feet come easy to me. Its the rest that I need construction for

>>7645736
Don't try to do this at home. It produces inttard gas

ok I've worked myself closer to a full piece with the tenna stuff
I will actually try to make one today. choose for me, beg. trad or digital

>>7645754
Digital should be easier

>>7645759
maybe idk
i always have a harder time with digital than trad for some reason but I can try
>>7645133
this one was fairly close to a real drawing

unfortunately he is my muse

>>7645767
Practice hands

>>7645768
i need to grind them since they're my biggest weak point nowadays but I don't know how to motivate myself to when I find hands ugly and unpleasing... sigh.. how do I practice them even

Okay. Who takes responsibility of that favela thread in the catalog...

uh oh tomboyfag thread on the catty

>>7645774
fucking lol

ok im practicing hands now

Does anybody have a link to this book?

>>7645804
You can find it on e-hentai (atleast the jap and a machine TL'd version), but its not HQ.
If you are looking for a HQ scan or official translation, im afraid i cant help.

>>7645814
HQ doesn't matter too much, long as I can see how they're simplifying forms and it's good enough for reference in study. Thank you very much anon

>>7645804
Here is the link in case anybody else was interested
https://e-hentai.org/g/2631891/bf7016e178/

>>7645821
OG korean
https://e-hentai.org/g/1948135/399090dbda/

Englist mtl
https://e-hentai.org/g/2631891/bf7016e178/

GLHF

>>7645767
all these hands, but none to hold mine <3
>>7645726
kot
>>7645651
ahwwwww
>>7645685
thats kinda smart ngl

Some stuff

>>7645868

>>7645864
i love you monkeychan
>>7645828
>>7645825
yay this seems cool
>>7645777
omg can people just leave him tf alone already he doesn't even post his shit here anymore

>>7645825
>>7645828
Thank you again

Me when I blindly copy AI

how did i do

reference in replies

>>7645871
People are jealous of his success and some don't like that he takes everything for granted lamenting over his slight decrease in likes as he gets 1000 likes compared to his previous 10000.

>>7645881

Progress always slows down when doing the full render, can get so demoralizing, especially when every time you come back you see something else you need to fix or do better

>>7645767
Cezar? Lookin' good I like your perspectives

>>7645871
i love you too deen-chan :3

>>7645890
>can get so demoralizing
you will complete this gem tho.

>>7645890
Cant wait for the finished piece

>>7645893
oh who is Cezar? thanks!

>>7645897
I vvill, I have yet to create something this year that pushes my limits so I'm determined to make this the one

>>7645901
oh I thought you were the dude posting this same TV guy in the art club Discord since he is also obsessed with this character and has similar-ish style

>>7645904
oh haha nah we just both have the same fixation! cool to know someone else with a similar style likes him too

>>7645882
i don't even have a success
if i said i have 10 years of drawing nothing of this would happen

>>7645882
just leave the poor guy alone at this point fml

>>7645902
Im proud of you.

im really fond of this one artists human tenna and want to do something similar but don't want to steal ughhh

>>7645890
based as fuck chudmaxxer
billions must draw

>>7645890
Wtf. My knees... they're bending on their own

>>7645932
That wouldnt be stealing Deerbro, go for it

>>7645959
their design is just so particular, i think I'll just do something similar but keep the canon nose more and make him Sephardic Jewish instead of black/more cartoony than theirs (basically taking zero inspiration besides the hair). their design is just so good though...

trying to figure this out is giving me PTSD to that time vivzie pop made it canon that hell can turn you into a white femboy

>>7645868
The hat cone's center is a bit off and the length of it (from tip to rim) looks a bit too big to me. Is there a reason for the one piece of cloth on the left arm being separate from the "cape"?
Other than that i like the folds (desu i'ye yet to seriously youch drapery).

>>7645890
Paintings and sculptures always go through the shitty looking stage and it's hard not to get demoralized from it.

I think it helps to do small drawing studies of parts of the painting and have them up as you paint, it's a good reminder of what you're going for as well as motivation to push through the ugly phase.

Good shit btw, would love to see this finished.

drawing during rehab
trying to figure out how to do the scales and where to put them was hard

>>7645988
being a white femboy is hell tho

>>7645406 (me)
Made a new one. 3rd, now. Dunno if it's better or worse, but it's my first time drawing an anthro character.

>>7646072
Marry me paige

>>7646087
can't, I'm already married to my tulpa

>>7646090
>tulpa
What's that? Divorce immediately and be my househusband

>4 foids circlejerking in /ic/
>art Discord is Deltarune twords and kids spamming their unfunny memes
How do all of you make me miss the old days of DeviantART of all things

>>7646138
There are no women here you schizo and nobody cares about your gay discord FAGGOT

>>7646138
>art Discord
Which one nigga

>>7646170
Even though theres already picture proven once YOU GIGANEWFAGGOT?
>>7646175
Art Club, fucking atrocious but its the biggest one unfortunately

>>7646184
Drop an invite if you can pookie

>>7646199
Sure, somewhere here referred me to it before: https://discord.gg/umcrj2XN

>>7646199
>>7646206
>theres 13-17 year olds mogging some people here
dont let permabegschizo see this!

>>7646170
There is one woman I know in this.

>>7646255
which?

Posted in the wrong bread.

Perspective drawing entirely from imagination (ignore the fucked perspective on the far corner of the bed, I eyeballed that and the line came out wrong and ignore the fucked hands, I actually drew them better in pencil but my inking failed me).

Pls critique.

>>7646293
Also, picrel is my drawing from imagination from 9 days ago.

I think I've improved somewhat.

>>7646293
Also, yes the bed in general is completely fucked. I drew it in pencil and it was alright but then I overextended some floor lines into the ved accidentally with my pen and so I just made that hideous pattern to cover it and the mattress tiles are also fucked in perspective. I don't know what I was thinking.

What am I even asking critique for honestly, it looks like complete shit in all aspects and I understand that myself.

>>7646293
>>7646300
post your disc you are mentorable

>>7644860
He's not drawing anymore. It's over.

>>7646332
I'll have to make one and while I appreciate your offer of a mentorship, I honestly only need reliable sources(the word being plural is very important) of critique and advice, that I will consider and apply based on my own judgement and this thread more or less does serve that purpose even if I get ignored sometimes.

That's the only real skill I have in life - I know how to learn and have fun on my own.

I will make a discord to share with you though, and thank you again for your kindness.

>>7646348
Pawell ate all his pencils and erasers when he was homeless. It's over

>>7646360
he's eating lotion now like the ancient g(r)eeks

>>7646259
You, the one reading this

>>7646360
His drawing utensils were finally able to do something useful for him

>>7646332
>>7646356
Done. Here you go:
anonymous7718.

>>7646380
based

>>7646452
Thanks for reminding me why I never share my stuff with you degens

>>7646380
I wish...

Nothing more depressing than watching a bunch of 16 year olds mog the everliving fuck out of you as a 25 year old
suicide inducing

>>7645778
>>7645781
Whoever doubts that he is tracing AI should read this.
He got dragged, exposed and several of his works had the original reference posted and they were just traced from AI.
Even worse, some of the AI slop he traced from were from Subu.

>>7646477
pyw nigger.

>>7646486
And get laughed at a little more? Nah Im good

>oh it's just a quick shitty drawing
>posts something insanely good, clearly showing years of skillful practice to back it up
>you guys really think it's good? Tee hee no way :)
I hate these people so goddamn much, even worse than Twitter artists

>>7646484
stop lying please, don't ruin another thread with your shit

>>7646484
BASED TRVTH NVKE

>>7646484
I'm a bit lost, who is tomboyfag?
Post their work.

>>7646484
>just read this 400 replies thread
I'd rather draw tbhdesu

I dm'd one of my biggest inspirations on X and asked for advice to git gud
Surely this isn't a problem, right? They'll take me seriously and not ignore me, right?

>>7646526
he's going to tell you to practice

>born with creativity
>can draw well enough to stand out from normies but not enough to stand out from actual artists
>will never get a job with this
>not drawing makes me depressed, waste time drawing makes me feel good purely for the act itself even though it's again nothing that stands out at all
What a cruel fucking joke, why wasn't I born with a high affinity for math instead, I could be living a carefree life

>>7646508
Someone really active on /beg/ a few months ago who seemed to be improving really fast and drew tomboys almost exclusively. Who cares if they were tracing or used AI or just reference slopping or whatever. Art isn't a race or a zero-sum game.

>>7646526
You asked them to offer art coaching for free. Don't expect a reply, or if you do get a reply, be grateful even if it's general advice.

>>7646533
shut up and work on your art, you little shit

>>7646533
pyw

Can confirm, trying to mix the art styles of Junji Ito and Tim Burton wasn't a good idea

>>7646553
prove it

>>7646569
Posting my failure of a drawing feels like an insult to both artists but sure

>>7646573
That looks 97% Burton and 3% Ito

>>7646573
"Don't starve" devs just called. they want to hire you bro

>>7645330
It comes from anything. He obviously has an understanding of the human body and anime is just a simplified style. It can be a crutch because you're relying on knowledge from another artist that makes slight mistakes in their drawings too.
Same thing happens when someone draws cartoons and incorporates it into a proportionally "realistic" body without mastery in the subject. It's still technically good but flawed.

There isn't inherently anything wrong with this mind you, because it can go both ways. Some atelier studio owning trad can end up as a human copy printer and lose the ability to draw from imagination, like what happened with Proko.

I personally think the artist is on the right track, and improvement can further be made.

>>7646574
In that case I'm mostly insulting just one artist

That's it for today. The whole repetition/flow when it comes to gestures is something i'll definitely have to hammer in before i can employ it from the top of my head.

>>7646573
i like it

>>7646589

>>7646573
next time make her eyes actual holes and you got it
>>7646586
i bet he smokes van nelle shag

>>7646585
What guide/book are you using for learning figures?

>>7646585
Subscribing to your post's replies in anticipation for yet another permabeg schizo melty

Bros... I found my muse... And now I want to fucking die because I feel like I'm not ready to draw what I want. I had planned to continue grinding studies which I was enjoying until now.

>>7646526
Update: no answer from him still and I just saw he made a post 15 minutes after I sent him a message
be right back, just gonna kill myself real quick

>>7646603
He is tracing AI like nihu.

Another day of not drawing good but I did draw so if I keep drawing surely one day I will draw something good

>Tomboyfag is threatening to rope right now
>permabegschizo is about lose it and shoot up his workplace
>pawell is trapped in a wagecage and will die if he leaves
>daily posts ITT of anons who are clearly depressed because of their art
Why did I pick this hobby up?

>>7646623
You were born with an unfortunate gene called creativity, that's why, unlucky!

>>7646623
>is threatening to rope now
this is my entire life

>>7646623
I'm happy to be drawing even if I'm a permabeg because I can manifest my sexual fantasies onto paper, simply Be Stronger .

>>7646623

>>7646623
>>7646634
Wtf? What's up with tomboyfag?

>>7646644
>>7645771
Everything

>>7646644
nothing, the thread's schizo created a thread attacking me, i know it's him because he did that so many times to me it's easy to see the way he types. he's been harassing me since my post went "viral" on twitter, i barely post here anymore so i don't know the reason (this is probably my last post here anyway)
it doesn't matter at the end, i've been losing my will to draw by my own in the last weeks, i'm really not the kind of person who has the mind to deal with this and the pressure to "keep being relevant" on social media, i just wanted to make fun comics

It's over...

>>7646654
embarrassing

>>7646659
what part

>>7646654
he redeemed.

>>7646654
pls don't stop drawing tomboyfag this legit doesn't matter at all outside of this website
people only spread schizo bullshit on here because of the anonymity

>>7646534
It doesn't matter if someone uses AI as long as they disclose imo

>>7646654
For what it's worth at the end of things. I did like seeing you post here.

>>7646654
it's the same guy who harasses everyone else, it's a specific schizophrenic

Shoulders, armpits and clavicle are filtering me hard right now.

>>7646654
ai shitters get the rope sooner or later

is someone going to post a picture of tomboy person's drawings or what? If it's so obvious that AI is being used I want to see what everyone is talking about

>>7646654
@grok is this true?

>>7646654
We can move past this. There is no need to stop drawing over something like this

>>7646673
No ai was used its obvious

>>7646676
But it's obvious AI was used anon

i can't stop thinking about tennas nose curving like its made of rubber

>>7646676
blud copied the AI hand line for line skull emoji

>>7646676
Ohhhh it's that person. Yeah, well. Yeah. Okay, well. I'm of the opinion it does look AI referenced, but at the end of the day, my journey is mine and mine alone. People will only continue to do this in increasing number, getting so up in arms about it is a waste of time and energy.

>>7646676
????

>>7646686
AAAAAIIIIIEEEE

>>7646676
being falseflagged as an ai is a badge of honor

This is just depressing

How about that deleted piece?

what's the deleted one? I missed it..

>>7646693
shush

>>7646693
i nabbed it

>>7646680
business as usual

>>7646676
I don't get it, is the tomboy person supposed to be like a troll? The only people who would say this isn't at least AI assisted were born yesterday or trolling. You can just browse civit right now and find thousands of images with he same lighting and style. I don't know how it's even a discussion

>>7646697
whyd he delete it?

>>7646700
Can you post those images?

>>7646700
I think he got into an panic attack and started defending himself offcoldown

>>7646702
Well for example this hair, is extremely common in AI models like illustrious

>>7646702
That shit looks more ai than ai gens

>>7646704
It's the same hair he has been drawing for months for this character

Jesus, this shithole site stinks more and more every day. It's about time to dip.

>>7646654
Explain these then.
>>7646262
>>7646137
Anons found the original pictures you traced from and they are almost 1:1 on top of also being colorpicked.
If this isnt tracing AI then what is it?
>Mutuals with Subu
>Subu and Tomboy talk when Subu appears in the thread.

>>7646704
Its the fact that the eyes look pasted on in every image

>>7646600
Currently working my way through Morpho simplified forms and Hampton's figure drawing design and invention. I've yet to study actual anatomy so most of the basic shapes in the arm and leg are just simplified forms that "help visualize them while i'm drawing.

>>7646609
I already posted videos before. If you haven't chaught it then i can't help you.

>>7646708

>>7646700
because months ago tomboy-anon was really active on /beg/ with sketches and line art and a lot of anons seethed because they made the ultimate mistake of comparing their own progress to someone else's, so now they feel vindicated when really they have been better served focusing on their own progress

>>7646697
This really has that awful line quality that people tracing over AI usually have

>>7646701
other than obviously looking like a traced ai gen, idk

>>7646710
read the thread, i posted it when i finished this https://archived.moe/ic/thread/7519652/#7519880
i didn't know it was AI, i found it on pinterest and thought it was some legit art and i thought it was cool, so i used it as study

>>7646712
Ignore him he's trolling you because of all this recent drama

>>7646710
>>7646713
man i like him but this is cooked it may be over

>>7646717
We told you that you kept using AI as ref and you kept tracing them. Stop trying to play innocent.

>>7646708
The illustrious model produces tomboy characters with this hair. To me it's clear they're hand drawn, but they're referencing illustrious generated images.

>>7646718
He has literally told everyone that he uses chatgpt to mentor him and civitai/pixai to correct his works. Stop trying to defend AIjeets

>>7646717
but you traced it, the lines add up too much on certain parts to not be traced. you shouldn't be tracing other people's art even if you think it's legitimate art. the lines are just too similar.

You can actually just browse civit with keywords tomboy and illustrious model, and you'll find many images that look like this. https://civitai.com/search/images?sortBy=images_v6&query=tomboy&baseModel=Illustrious which is why to me, its pretty obvious it's AI referenced, and I wasn't sure if this was a troll or what

>>7646713
Rofl I see the weird fucked up highlights in his work now. Pretty nonsensical and inorganic

>>7646713
>>7646721
i've been drawing her hair like this for months this is from 3 months ago

>>7646720
i didn't trace, read the thread

>>7646721
What the fuck are you on about, this is how half of weeb hair is shaded

>>7646717
>>7646726
nihu... your last post... remember?
>>7646654

>>7646726
>>7646727
I'm sorry but it's extremely obvious. Once again, I'm not sure if this is a troll, or what?

>>7646722
>He has literally told everyone that he uses chatgpt
First time I've heard of it, substantiate your claim

>>7646654
>The thread schizo
That thread got more posts per minute than Pewds drama or AI drama. You had the entire board calling you out and the only one defending you were Subujeet and you.

>>7646654
>>7646676
Protip: recording your drawings and posting a webm of it being made makes schizos lose their fucking minds. It actually breaks them because they have no recourse after that kind of assblasting. I've seen it happen on /ic/ before and it's fucking funny. You should try it.

>>7646733
>>7645898
IT *CLAP* DOESN'T *CLAP* MATTER*CLAP*

>>7646728
yeah, i'll stop now sorry

>>7646733
i'll record my next drawing if i decide to keep drawing

>>7646733
you can trace ai shit like this:
>>7645176
with a simple transparent pureref overlay btw

>>7646733
>That webm
Constructionbros?

>>7646732
It literally broke IC posting records. The board activity was 200% at he time

>>7646736
>with a simple transparent pureref overlay btw
what? we all fell for it?

>>7646731
First part is true, i made it do a bootcamp schedule to keep up for a week (which i posted before) , second's completely made up.

>>7646654
Leaving this dump is a good idea, for everyone, that is. Quitting drawing over a clown on the internet is very impulsive.

>>7646733
I always post videos so when i get good the schizos cant blame me

Why don't we just all go into drawpile and watch them draw things on request? Seems to be the easiest way to btfo accusers and put an end to it all?

I bet he draws like this

>>7646744
>Over a clown on the internet
Someone threatened to contact all his comm clients with the evidence of AI tracing.

>>7646742
Put up the schedule and save the begs. redeem yourself

>>7646746
Yeah live requests would make it obvious if reference is being used because there'd be delay

>>7646732
>entire board
More like one schizo samefagging, like they always do.

>>7646748
Is that morally the right thing to do?

>>7646748
proof??????

>>7646748
hello clown

>>7646752
No way 1 anon posts 3 times per minute. Impossible

>>7646748
The guy made up that he was taking $120 for the comms and he said it was $30 lmao

>>7646753
>pays $120 for a comm
>slops it up in a few seconds
>broken hands and shitty toes
Idk if I'd be happy under those circumstances

https://drawpile.net/invites/drawfie.com/01jczz8v2bgnx6rjghyrzj2xz5?web&nsfm

If you join this and draw you can put put an end to the accusations from the schizo. It's literally a win win

>>7646760
trollololol

>>7646749
Kek, I already did, but here.


Test:
-10 mins, slow deliberate lines (horizontal, vertical, 45° both directions)
-10 mins, ellipses, circles, figure eights
-10 mins, ghost lines, practice confident single stroke turns
- 30 mins, pick 2 simple objects (cup, chair, tool), draw with ref
-15 min break
-30 mins, redraw both objects from memory, no ref
1 hour, lines only, no shading, 5 household objects with refs, 3 should be drawn through as if transparent.

Daily:
-10 mins, straight lines (ghost+ fast execute)
-10 mins, ellipses in boxes, between lines, in perspective
-10 mins, C curves, S curves, spirals, zigzags (aim to replicate as close as possible)
- No time limit, draw 10 ellipses, then redraw from memory
- No time limit, draw 5 boxes total from imagination (can mark vanishing points if needed) can mix and match, but try drawing atleast one with 1vp, 2vp and 3vp
- about 1 hour, choose 2 objects, redraw them with ref (15-20 mins each), put ref away/cover your drawing and redraw each from memory (15 mins each), light construction lines, push to capture proportion and specific curve identity
-30-40 mins, choose 1 simple form (mug, bottle, box, hammer), draw it at 4 different rotating angles (draw cube/rectangle to help facings), sketch lightly then clarify contour, at least 1 should be without refs or guides, occasionally rotate vertically
-60 mins, pick 3-5 household objects (no photoref), use draw through, rebuild form with basic primitives, show centerlines, crosscontours, elipses and axes, at least 1 object assymetrical
- 20-30 mins (5 mins per object), from memory (no references) redraw 4-6 objects, can be an object you drew before, No guidelines, just quick line sketch, if possible from multiple angles
-10 mins, sketchbook play.
- additionally, at the end of the week, redraw the object you felt was the best from memory and a different angle, then compare the two. Annoint where you feel both failed.

>>7646760
Ain't nobody joining now. The vibe is off

>>7646760
nice try subu, you can reference ai on drawpile and/or on stream too

>>7646760
Link doesn't work

>>7646769
>>7646768
It's more like have them sketch things on request from the chat. Live drawing. I don't expect a masterpiece, but it's easy to tell someone's skill level from drawing random things

>>7646769
So how does one prove himself? If you can use AI somehow in timelapses and streaming, how do you prove it?

>>7646773
taking live requests

What's wrong with referencing and tracing AI when you have prompt sloppers making more money than the average artist on patreon anyway?

>>7646772
Normally I would join and draw, but I really don't want to have any part of this drama.

>>7646774
draw subu (female) feet

>>7646771
Oh that's the one they had on the drawpile thread. I'm not about to make a new lobby, but I think it's the perfect way to put an end to this all. If they can draw things on request you'd be able to tell their skill level and then we can be done with this

>>7646775
finally going mask off, niggu?

post feet

Forget drawing boring anime woman
I found the real target to strive for, a real inspiration

>>7646777
the magical numbers don't lie. this is the only way to redeem

>>7646778
Tracing is like cheating but yeah, if you use it as a ref it's no different than using other person's work, you'rfe just copying their mistakes.

>>7646778
we know tomboyfag can draw nigga we've seen him post sketches for months

>>7646766
>>7646585
What the hell is that racetrack thing

>>7646787
Yeah I'm convinced this is all some elaborate troll because of responses like this. I got better shit to do.

>>7646787
nihu...

hi
>>7646782
a beauty

>>7646790
KEEEEEEEEEEEK HE REDEEMED

>>7646757
LOL. I remember the days on /biz/ when hundreds of 1 posts by this id where simultaneously made in a matter of seconds, with hundreds of posts being deleted the next.

>>7646790
imagine getting revved this easily

>>7646790
Took you long enough to realize

>>7646789
Repetition of lines guide the viewer's eyes according to the hampton book. I tried doing it with the 3 type of lines (C, S, and straight), and then with alternating repetition and asymmetrical lines (he calls it timing).
Basically, it's for me to understand the concept so i can utilize it once i learn it.

>>7646796
I highly doubt one anon was singlehandedly able to achieve record breaking posting numbers like that.

>>7646801
You just need someone samefagging for 100 posts, the other 300 will build up around his shit.

>>7646796
There is a difference between a whole call center shilling a shitcoin and the whole board coming together against the grifter of the month.
Hi Subu!!!

>it's a samefag
>it's a troll
>proof?
>STOP TALKING ABOUT IT OKAY???
yawn
time to step it up subucord

>>7646802
You can only make at most 60 posts per hour. That thread had over 200 posts in hour. I really think it was the whole board coming in to see what's going on

>>7646807
does subucord have an AI channel?

>>7646804
Hi schizo. You know it's not hard to id hop on 4chan right? /v/ has had a video game butt poster spam the board for the last half decade you fucking newfaggot.

>>7646810
its the whole point

>>7646802
Epstein did not trace AI. Stop talking about it!!!

Signed Favela D. Monkey. President of the Subucord.

>>7646807
>it's ai
>proof?
>silence
Kek.

>>7646804
>this nigga is boxing with ghosts
Kek. We both know you don't draw.

>>7646796
>I remember the days on /biz/
oh no no no

Why can the schizo create threads to shit on the board and shit on this thread and nothing happens?

>>7646804
>Hi Subu
Literally who?

uh oh pradeep and kumar are mobilized now

>>7646811
You can bring this site down with a bit of coordinated effort if you have enough dynamic ip isp's, huh. That's funny.

>IT’S DA VPNS
the cope is unreal

i liek tv

>IT'S AI ART
The display of jealousy is unreal.

>>7646833
don't feed

>literal ai references found by some autist
do you really want to die on this hill

>>7646839
Proof?

>>7646839
Shouldn't have underestimated the autists here. That brought his downfall

>>7646841
>proo-ACK
>>7646262
https://x.com/Nihu77/status/1921677705969352973

yayy i love drawing i love art I love tv yayyy

>>7646843
He said he didn't know it was AI, not like he generated it himself this to post as his work. It's on pinterest.

Stop feeding the fags asking for proof, it's been posted 100 times now, they're just asking to keep the drama train going, Can we please move on already

>>7646851
No proof posted, but yeah, move on.

>>7646848
>literal gened background
>>7645910
>subu disciple
idk homie

>>7646843
>retard thought this was traced >>7646137
>then proceeded to backtrack on it being referenced
Holy fuck. You can't even get your narrative straight.

>>7646851
moving on would require actually drawing which we both know /beg/ isn't capable of

>>7646843
i was holding out hope but I think we may actually be cooked. fuck, it's not even copied, just traced.

>>7646861
>proceed to prove it's not traced
lmao

>>7646858
>REFERENCING AI IS OKAY!
No it's not, subu.

>>7646862
have you ever heard of changing shit around with the liquefy tool and modifying proportions to make something look not traced? there's too many identical curves for it not to be

this ai shitter nigga is dying in a favela shoot out anyway who gives a fuck

>i'm a retard who can't trace properly
>i copied it
>i referenced it
You. Used. AI. Period.

>>7646864
It is if you don't know. Like this one >>7646861 he literally just referenced the pose

couple of drawings with references for poses
hard to keep characters consistent looking

So we went from it was ai generated, to it was traced to it now being referenced. Kek thanks for playing schizo.

>>7646865
So, the rules of your mind said it's traced, but different.

The AI usage is the main allegation here

>>7646869
the lines are too perfectly aligned in some spots, try moving it around and overlaying it yourself

>>7646844
me too
woohoo
>>7646870
what characters? i like the girls design

>>7646872
>went from hand-drawn to admitting ai-assistance
we won

>>7646876
That's called referencing a pose.

>unironic jeet defenders
wew, didn't know subucord was real

>>7646878
He can't deny the AI-assistance.

I think this one turned out well desu pls pay attention to me instead of ai schizo

>>7646877
characters for a visual novel I'm writing
they're good practice and cute together also they are both guys desu

>>7646877
i like your drawing file.png
i love drawing and I love tv

>>7646878
What an absolutely retarded take. You implied he generated the image of his drawing, only to backtrack to him using it as a reference.

>>7646872
>it was ai generated
it literally was look at the background >>7646857

>>7646886
the accusation has always been hes tracing/copying ai, not genning his final work, subu

>>7646883
the femboy's spine looks twisted in a weird way that looks very painful

>UHHH I DIDN'T TRACE AI I REFERENCED AI YOU'RE MOVING GOALPOSTS DURRR I WON
hop off lil bro this isn't debate 101

>>7646889
>tracing
>people in the very thread backtrack to it being used as a reference
>this retard thinks the background was generated >>7646857
Ok schizo.

>>7646889
And both works prove he didn't >>7646861
Copying a pose it's not using AI.

>>7646883
no form or proportion
try tracing some AI idk

>>7646894
>it's not generated because... because i'm retarded and have zero cognitive resolutionn

>>7646895
Copying AI is using AI

>>7646766
I kinda want to try this, I feel like doing even half of the drawing with/without reference work in this would make someone improve really quickly

>>7646891
I may have exaggerated the twist or drawn the clothing wrong to give the impression of a greater twist than is there IDK
this is the pic I was aping

>HE GENERATED HIS IMAGES!
>OK BUT HE TRACED IT!
>o-ok but he used it as a reference
Fucking LMAO. Is this really what caused the meltdown?

>>7646899
We have one anon that the accusation WAS ALWAYS by reference/tracing >>7646889, and then we have (you) saying it was generated. Which one is it you retarded schizo?

>>7646906
There are many anons here miffed by various reasons. It isn't just one guy here you know

blud thinks this is a court of law and we're debating him with prepared arguments KEEEEEEEEEK

>>7646894
>>7646895
look at the piece he deleted my guy
>>7646697
this has all the quirks of traced AI sloppa
>lines are wobbly and follow the shapes very rigidly
>the colors and shading, are super smooth and airbrushed
hes literally coloring by numbers colorpicking from a generic AI gen palette
it doesn't get any more obvious than this

>PROOF SAAR YOU GIVE THE BLADY PROOFS!!!
>YOU MOVED DA GOALPOSTS SAAR YOU ARE THE MOST FUCKING!

>>7646907
The issue is the retarded schizo being incapable of keeping his own narrative straight and is boxing with ghosts over it.

>>7646909
How is he going to prompt his way out of this one

i love drawing i love tv yay

>>7646912
This. He lost the argument the moment he claimed the images were generated.

>the point is he used AI, in any capacity (proven)
>errrmmm you deviated from the narrative i hallucinated so it doesn't count
LOL

nihu can win this by drawing the fat deer man

>>7646912
Pretty much everyone who has been in beg for longer period of time knows tomboyfag to some extent, but many people don't really know what's actually going on here

It was always about tracing AI.

>>7646903
I'd recommend trying it out too, but it does take a certain amount of dedication/autism to go the full length for the exercise.
If you do try it out (fully or partially), lemme know if and how much it helps. It worked for me, but im not sure how well its gonna work for others

>>7646915
ok now draw on model Spamton getting assblasted by Tenna

Let's move on. He’s honestly a nice guy dealing with enough already. People should focus on their own lives, leave him alone.

Some 15 minute figures trying to get a handle on my weaknesses so I can improve. I think my legs are quite shit as well as my hands, but everything else is at least serviceable for now. Thoughts?

>makes substantial claim artist generated his drawings
>ok so he didn't but he DEFINITELY traced ai, I was wrong about one thing but I know I'm right on this ;)
Fucking Kek.

>>7646926
This, Its just one jealous schizo getting mad hes tracing AI commissions.

>>7646924
HAPPILY holy shit dude I saw art of exactly this and I've wanted to since it just wasn't the narrative I was going for yet
i really want to draw tiny spamton being used as a fleshlight by a deranged tenna who's holding him like one because he's desperate and losing his shit at this not-qiite-mailman and his cock bulges through spamtons fabric so you can see the shape through him
EUGHG
kinky thank you for giving me an excuse to bc otherwise this was just going to be extreme size gap fetish porn for myself

>this little difference between tracing, copying and genning ai (it's all the fucking same) means you're wrong about him using ai at all :)
bro aced debate in highschool lmfao

you know how it is, Nihu. You just start running and shit. Then all of a sudden your legs give in and you just can't run no more

It's over my...friend. It didn't need to be like this. Just come clean

>this fag's still at it
Just take the L little bro. We both know you don't draw anyways.

i guess the schizo won't try to debunk this one
>>7646910
im moving on

the argument stopped being fun when i realized most of you genuinely think copying is as bad as tracing

A lot of arguing going on and not a lot of helpful criticism or drawing in this thread! :~)

>>7646937
We're in beg after all

>>7646938
i love drawing i love tv yayy

>>7646937
Retard no draws think it's of the same caliber as generating images. (something the little retard desperately tried to back track on, KEK)

>>7646938
>helpful criticism
This is mostly a crab thread now, people who want to improve would be better at some other place

>>7646933
but muh goalposts
but muh narratives
but muh backtracking
please stop

>>7646941
wharever u say, just get the rope and leave

>>7646942
all this thread does is crab people who don't progress at lightning speed or accuse those that do of AI, it's a waste of time

>ok I used AI BUT-
oh hell nah

>>7646937
both are pretty bad if you don't credit your source or at least say it's a study

@7646944
>k-kys
Schizo is actually malding. Lmfao.

>>7646948
You still didn't reply to >>7646910 btw

>>7646941
Such is the fate of those who don't draw. The faggot will spend more time spamming threads than actually drawing.

>>7646947
yeah, idk why people here are acting like copying isn't a shitty thing to do and almost as bad as tracing when done without credit

Why would I? Go get your (you)s from someone else you desperate faggot.

>chatgpt gave me da perfect argument pointing out his SLIGHTLY moving goalposts that all mean the same fucking thing I WAS SUPPOSED TO WINNNN!!!!!

i love drawing i love tv yay

>the ESL schizo moved on to GPT
Holy fucking Kek.

>>7646958
Actually decent lines with that gesture.

>>7646952
Copying is what every beg should try doing. How can you learn to draw something correctly if you don't even know what the correct way is?

>heh, logical fallacy: moving goalposts! you lost!
>umm referee? he lost!

>>7646949
IT DOESNT MATTER YOURE JUST A CRAB ITS NOT GENERATED

>>7646959
thanks I've been working on improving my line quality, it's the main thing I'm working on,im glad someone noticed thank you , been trying to minimize my line usage as much as i can even though it degrades the quality of my art significantly to break the bad habit, like here
I've been getting shit on since I started trying to learn better line quality but , oh well

>it was ai generated
>source
>uhhhhh because I said so!
Wow. This anon is actually mindbroken.

>>7646945
Bro is just a beg who got lucky on twitter and some people here think he can't make mistakes ever otherwise it's AI, he's not a pro, barely int I'd say. We are talking about a person with 1 year of drawing.

>>7646964
>>7646964
>>7646964
NEW THREAD

>>7646966
This, its just traced AI so its fine

advanced brazilian derailing tactics are in display

>the sky is blue
>source?
moving onto reddit rhetoric i see

>>7646974
you can easily prove the sky is blue though, why not do it?

>>7646974
>>7646975
The sky isn't actually blue,it appears blue due to a phenomenon called Rayleigh scattering.

Gottem

Tracing is ok.

>>7646974
>retard didn't pass fifth grade
Kek!

Nihu just needs to admit he used AI. Simple as

Still on my tron-tism.

>>7646982
He doesn't!

>>7646975
>literal ai artifacts on the skyline image
>ghibil sloppa style and color palette on the background of this image >>7646843
>spoke of using gen ai for backgrounds https://archived.moe/ic/thread/7527966/#7528186
addendum
>traced ai (b-but i didn't know!)
>friends with slopmaster subu
asking for proof for the millionth time doesn't invalidate the numerous examples already posted here and in the other thread, lil jeet. i'll post them as many times as needed

>>7646984
I'm handing you a concession on silver platter

It's starting make a bit more sense little by little. I think I should be drawing through my forms more though

>>7646923
I might have to break it up into chunks instead of doing it all in one go but I will keep you updated when I tackle it. I think now that I've learned the basics behind observation and construction I'm in a better place to try something like this than I was a couple of weeks ago

>>7646989
He didnt use AI and if he did, he didnt generated it and even better, he only copied it because he never traces

>>7646994
he used ai, we accept your concession

>>7646995
>>7646991
Nyoooooooooooooo

>>7646927
/beg/ and never critiqued before so take it with a grain of salt.
I think the head is a bit too small in general. The extended arm on top right also lacks the "back" of the arm (like in the bottom right) and the right chest muscle doesn't "portrude" from the torso. The right/extended arm's form is a bit unclear to me as well. The ribcage usually counter balances the neck/head and pelvis, but on top right, the head's tilt matches the ribcage's tilt, which makes you lose that "end of ribcage" portrusion on the right side of the torso.

Bottom right drawing i think mostly looks fine, but the spine's bend is a bit ambiguous/deflated. The neck leaning forward is good but past that, the upper back's bend i think is a bit weak and the lower back bend is not really "there". The right side buttock also appears deflated/2 dimensional. You might want to start drawing the sacrum as an "in perspective" triangle wedge to also help you with buttocks orientation from the back.

The left's right/bended upper arm also doesnt make sense to me, but that might just be me. I think it should be bending away to be on the side or even behind the torso, which means it should be covered or partially obscured by the chest muscles and/or the ribcage's side. It has the same thing i mentioned where the head and ribcage tilt is the same.
That's all i can think of, hope it helps.

>>7646994
But he used AI even if just as an assistance. That fact cannot be changed. It's time let go of your hubris, you're just flying closer to the sun with every deflection

>>7647001
theres nothing wrong with that fact

>>7646989
>random anon asks about background ai art, no proof of its association with whatever schizo attachment you've made for one person
>links an image THAT HAS NO ARTIFACTS in its image, so fucking /beg/ doesn't actually know the tell tale signs of what ai artifacts are.
Pic related you drooling fucktard
>""""""""""traced"""""""""
>image overlay is different, at best could accuse of referencing but the fucktard is too dumb to realize AI IMAGES USE EXISTING ART AND POSES TO BE GENERATED
>friends with literal who on /asg/, completely irrelevant
Wow. You're the dumbest motherfucker I've ever come across on /ic/. And that's saying a lot.

>>7647004
Yikes. He's not going to like this one, King.

>>7647003
Concession?

>c-concession?

>>7647004
suppose we humor you and admit the skyline wasn't ai-generated. what fucking difference does that make? he used ai period, disproving one charge or discrediting me doesn't change reality. this is not a debate lil bro

>>7646995
One question, where were you when the guy was complaining that his art only got 5 likes and he had no followers? I know because I started following him when he said that in a thread. So why did you only start getting bothered when he had just a little bit of success?

how do I color windows like this?

>>7647011
Should have kept his hands off the prompts, but the short lived fame was too tempting

>>7647013
No answer, got it.

>>7647004
What exactly is that meant to prove?

>>7647015
Nothing, it looks good. Nice job.

>>7647015
Delete this right fucking now

>>7647015
Where's the artifacts?

>>7647014
I wasn't even that anon. Idk

>>7647011
It's a no draw schizo. He spends more time derailing threads than drawing anything. He will never post his work.

>>7647012
oh no no no…

>>7647012
There's three different colors for the windows. Wouldn't the yellow indicate the lighting is on in the inside of the building, while the blue/grey means off?

>>7646924
posted your fulfilled request in the new thread

>>7647004
>links an image THAT HAS NO ARTIFACTS in its image, so fucking /beg/ doesn't actually know the tell tale signs of what ai artifacts are.
>Pic related you drooling fucktard
>shows ai artifacts moving around
>>7647015
>shows the same thing
uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

>>7647030
So where in the image holds artifacts?

Favela… Just give in. It’s over.

>>7646697
I'm starting to think that massive text bubble is hiding extremely blatant AI slop underneath

>schizo still can't show where the artifacts are in the image he linked

>>7647026
They be having a rave in the building.

>>7647042
It's also really hot so it's melting