Thread 212425054

Lazy edish edition

Precious : >>212392468

I command the insomniac portuguese to keep this thread alive the whole night

>>212425054 (OP)
what did George Lucas mean by this?
>>212425306
there he is

I am mistaking days.

>>212425054 (OP)
Watto is also immune to jedi mind tricks

tonight's scran

>>212425306
the fuck?

>>212426220
Innit?

>>212426220
corr

>>212426890
mfw when I accidentally send my mom a gay ass selfie instead of a pic of the meal I was cooking

>>212424145
>Thought I heard chickens when I went outside just now, but I waited for several minutes and the sound didn't repeat. Very unusual.
You hear chickens, I see hedgehogs. We're almost literally the same

>Sorry Polebro, the captcha has spoken. ZERO PORN.
I have to defy fate once again, it seems

>>212425830
Welcome to the club

>>212426220
Looks good

>>212425054 (OP)
hello, had to take care of one of my godmother's kids throughout the day, then went to their swimming pool and ate pizza with them.
had a good conversation with her husband, stuff like this makes me feel more normal but its also kinda hard cause he asks me how i've been and all I want to do is start crying and telling how shit my life is but i cant

>>212427028
>a gay ass selfie
no way! proof?

im 100% leaving spain or killing myself, i refuse to work for garbage wages, it's so fucking disgusting

>>212428903
what is gargage wages in this context?

>>212429091
around 1500+ euro per month

>>212428855
you seen the kind
it's a disease
don't tempt me

>>212428903
You have better wages than we poortuguese do.
Also your houses are cheaper when taking into account income. Your gas and diesel are cheaper. The same as electricity and other utilities.
You don't suffer.

>>212429183
Does it include zesty stamps in hats? kek

>>212429458
>You don't suffer.
this

>>212429492
THEY ARE NOT ZESTY
the lobster is like a knight of the sea fully clad in his calcified armor
and the rooster is a symbol of virility and pride
they are tokens of might really

>>212429988
See this Todd? It's me, looking at your explanation.
What's croatfren's take on the hatnimals?

>>212430047
>What's croatfren's take on the hatnimals?
he is in awe of them
he's a bit jealous that hats fit me so well desu

>>212430276
Expected from a panty wearing man I guess, still zesty and you can't change my mind regarding the stamps.
Has he stopped saying he's bi and fully embraced the homoness?

>>212430345
have you fully embraced your homoness (if that's the case of course)?

>>212430393
100% my dear nwahnigga.

>>212430412
i don't kknow who that is but i'm glad for u anon
thanks for replying to me

Hoping maltanonchecks this out when he wakes up.

>>212430630
>that tattoo on her left arm
A shame. She'll never find a husband now.

>>212431139
>left arm
How do you know it's the left? Cameras usually make a mirrord picture of reality, but there is a lot of software nowadays to correct that.

>>212431782
An astute point, but I do not believe it will affect her marriage prospects either way.

American cinematography?

>Cyberpunk Edgerunners 2 announced
we are so fucking back you gonks

can't fall asleep

>>212433865
Neither can I, fucking heat

Good morning, sisters.

>>212427196
/10? >>212380256

Good morning /med/.

>>212433865
>>212434760
Cutie pies

Given the sheer amount of iron being used in construction, we should rename the building into 'It-Torri tal-Ħadid'.

Morning getlemen, couldn't sleep until 4am

What's the program for today medsters ?

Hello fellers. I watched the Ballad of Buster Scruggs and the Fugitive yesterday.
Good movies.

>>212437909
Doing some laundry and groceries. Tonight, I go to a friends birthday so gotta find a gift too.

>>212438064
Already know what you're gonna get ?

>>212438142
He loves gardening so probably a book on that I think.
And you, what's up for today?

>>212437909
Top secret stuff.

>>212438260
Rooning and then playing Wingspan

>>212432781
I wonder how they'll do it considering Adam Smasher turned half the cast into bloody pulp with circuits hanging out

Today's training.
Squat 1x1 with 210 kg, 1x1 with 210 kg but I failed to do a second rep in the set, 1x3 with 200 kg.

>>212438278
>>>/pol/509560199

>>212429458
You have to explain how do you portuguese manage to live, no offense intended, your wages are like 900-1000€, I don't understand how that's enough for you to rent a house, food, bills...

>>212439519
I don't understand Finnish, but does the UI imply that she ran 10km in under an hour at around 5km/hr?

>>212440393
5mn30/km

>>212439845
It’s not enough, a lot of people are on a trajectory to destroy their lives with the amount they earn and their expenses.
But…
>shit apartments
>no car
>always eat at home, cheap meals
>a fulfilling entertainment is paying for two beers at the café next door
>30 year old used fridge and disintegrating mattress
>never buy media of any kind, or books or whatever, pirate everything
>every expensive thing on credit (expensive = anything 500€ or above)
That’s mainly it. The credits are what breaks the camel’s backs, once they’re at the point of no return they either leave the country so they don’t have to pay them or go back to the parents’ house or take to the streets or something. Or you never leave the parents’ home.
The other day in the news they were showing the demolition of an illegal block of makeshift houses and the inhabitants simply said that they would now live in the streets, because every single one of them had a job, but it didn’t pay enough for rent.

At least the line is going up!

>something lands on my arm
>about to body that freak
>it's a ladybug
Got multipass'd
Was ruthless to the bugs that were fucking on my arms doe

>>212440529
Ahhh ok, that makes more sense.

I misread it. I was alienated.

>>212440713
You were looking at that armpit

>>212440752
I was looking at the whole package.

>>212438260
Give him "Ten Acres Enough" by Edmund Morris it's pretty nice as a window into the past when some things were nice. It was written in 1864 so it has no practical relevance to today but it's still nice.

>>212440614
Sorry to read that, we are pretty much in a similar situation, things are fucked

>>212441300
No you are not, you are slightly better.

>>212437909
Bought some brotein cereal for breakfast that should last me at least 3 weeks. Went shopping clothes with momberg but she did not like any of the clothes so we didn't consoom. Went to the market to buy some vegetables. Going to eat a frozen 'za now, then vacuum clean the house then I'm cleaning the bathroom and taking a cold bath. Afterwards I'll play vidya and watch tranime. Then water the garden in the evening.
Simple fookin' as that mate.

>>212438974
What's your IDEAL goal weight for bench, deadifts, and squats that you want to reach in your lifetime?

>>212440614
How did things get so bad? Surely they weren't always this way?

>>212441583
>watch tranime
How many episodes have you watched already?
>What's your IDEAL goal weight for bench, deadifts, and squats that you want to reach in your lifetime?
I don't have any, I'll just try to get as strong as possible.

>>212441481
Slightly, everything you said in your previous post is also happening in Spain, we are losing purchasing power rapidly, things are getting worse year by year

>>212441620
>How many episodes have you watched already?
I think 7. I was kinda busy doing other things (like spending 5 hours a day staring at the wall thinking about all the shit I fucked up in my life).

Chefman used to force twinko to make food like this btw >>>/ck/21447626

Am back from the rooning, Brunester will be happy there were many ferns
>>212441583
That's quite the program Magyar fren, do you think you're gonna complete all of it by the end of the day ?

>>212441726
I just fern-post for galicianon

>>212441600
It was worse for most of history if you actually analyze the economic realities of people.
Most things are cheaper than ever in relation to salaries, the only two things that have gotten more expensive are:
Housing, because urbanization is in a historical high so demand of housing is through the roof and housing is not being built to satiate this demand, the reason why housing is not being built is multifaceted, but I think the main two culprits are NIMBYs and house owners that want to increase the value of their wealth so they support harsher regulation to buildings.
Taxes, taxes are in an all time high because there are more pensioners than ever and those pensioners are being paid more than ever.

If you compare life nowadays in Western countries to for example the 90s, people nowadays have a harder time getting access to housing, rent and buying is both more expensive than ever before, but if you look at their consumption, people nowadays eat more food, buy more clothing and enterntainment of all kinds.
If you look at what car you could buy with for example 1 year of minimum salary now or in the 90s, the car you could buy now would have relatively less prestige, but it would be better, it would probably come with air conditioning, a sound system (there was a time were people would steal those because they were expensive so some people would take them out of their car after parking), and have a more powerful engine.

I understand that there are many reasons to complain about the economic situation we face, specially in countries like Portugal or Spain where the lack of access to housing infantilizes people who without housing can't form their families and live like children until their 30s, but in many aspects there have been way, way worse economic situations to live in.

Continue later.

>>212441600
>>212441834
I think part of that perception too is that economic inequality has risen over time because while the poor people have been able to get access to more good and services, this is marginal compared to the amount of wealth rich people have accumulated.

Then right wing grifters use this rising unequality and lack of access to housing to sell the idea that we should vote conservatives to go back to an idyllic time that didn't really exist while at the same time serving the interests of the capitalists who got the housing and inequality this bad.

>>212441681
Who's best girl? I think you've already seen all of the main contendants.

>>212441779
I took a fern pic so you can feast your eyes on them

>>212441600
They weren’t, that’s why you could own a nice detached house in the 90’s and 00’s while earning below average.
It all went to shit in 2008, then got worse with covid and even worse with the digital nomads, pajeets and tourists.

Hello /med/ders, the sales period started and I went shopping, I was supposed to only get a pair of shorts but in the end I also bought a light jacket, a light jumper and a sweatshirt for the colder months

>>212441834
Those are some fair counterpoints, nothing much I disagree with. Personally, I never understood those people who wanted to travel back in time and live in a period before germ theory or modern plumbing, where 8 men slept in one room and puked up their weekly wages outside of the local pub (The Dusty Lung).
Nevertheless, we're still on a downward trajectory and necessities like food and clothing are a lot more expensive than they were pre-COVID. Things may not be that bad relative the average experience of the anatomically modern human, but things seem like they will get worse before they get better. If they get better.

>>212442061
Agreed, if I was born 100 years ago I would have been a starving farmer subsisting only of polenta

>>212441834
Factually wrong.
Houses are more expensive in relation to wages, as well as cars, meat, cleaning stuff like detergents, bread, etc.
The only stuff that’s cheaper is tech slop like TVs, computers and so on.
Cinema was cheap, nowadays it’s prohibitively expensive.
Regarding cars, the proof it was cheaper is that the cars on the streets were MUCH newer back then. In the 90’s you had cars from the 90’s and 80’s on the streets. Nowadays you have cars all the way back to the 90’s, not ten year old cars or 15, but 30 and so old cars.
The poor people have gotten slightly better life conditions, sure, but at the price of completely eradicating the middle class and above all making the zoglords much richer. But again, a poor guy could get at least a nice apartment then, now he lives at his parents or on the streets.

>tl;dr: get out of your house and look at the big picture you retard

And of course I’m talking about the last 50 or 40 years, if you go back two hundred years life is much better now.

>>212442061
After COVID food got more expensive but the sharp inflation period is now over, so and I think salary increases will most likely outpace inflation the next years, I think this situation isn't too different to how the economy felt from 2007 to 2009 after the subprime crisis, just that this time instead of a rising unemployment and lowering of salaries what we saw was rising prices with employment and salaries staying mostly the same, so it feels worse than before, but there have been much worse economic situations in our lifetime.
While I don't think things will necessarily always get better I don't see a reason why productivity wouldn't rise overtime as technology develops and with more production per capita people would be better off economically.
As for housing, I think it needs a political solution but sadly the people who have a grip in politics benefit from the current situation, I think one of the solution that is being left off the table out of pure idiocy because of how cheap it would be to implement is mandatory remote work for anybody who doesn't need to work in site, it wouldn't change everything overnight but it would lower the demand for housing in cities by those workers, and those workers would instead demand housing in cheaper places, and if some people start leaving big cities, the demand for other jobs that are not remote would increase outside of big cities and lower in big cities, for example there would be a higher need of waiters in small towns if suddenly they increase their population 10% over a period of one or two years.
But because our corporate overlords want to keep us thightly controlled even though remote work is proven to be more efficient, this legislation is simply not implemented.
Just think about how many people work in finance or IT in London and what would happen if they were mandated to do that work remote.

>>212442005
On the streets of Glasgow in the 90s, a man could buy heroin and know he was getting the good stuff. These days, it's just a mixture of flour, fentanyl and rat poison. Makes me sick how far we've fallen.

/med/ders : I want to fucking die
Also /med/ders : Living in the past? I could die!

>>212437909
Eat Octopus now with my familiy, having a nap, playing bidogames and than have some takoyakis with fried rice for dinner

>>212442155
>Factually wrong.
Like a grifter once said, facts don't care about your feelings.
Again, there are problems in today's economy that weren't present in the 90s or early 2000s but you are simply subjectively analyzing the situation and ignoring the data.

Playing a Catnigga simulator, pretty fun.
https://youtu.be/siT1HTSCY4g?si=5llDxwwsu8AGLH4B
>>212440677
I'm glad you stayed your hand fren.
I hate when people freak out and kill bugs that climb on them. Or arachnophobic girls.
It pisses me off to see them run away when they see a wasp and crush ants.
You can always blow on them and put them outside and yet they get emotional and freak out.

>>212442305
Remote work would do a lot, there're many people (me included) that would be happy staying in bumfuck mountain villages but are compelled to move

>>212442494
>line go up
Look ma, I posted it again. Most of that line is going for the big zoglords and you know it.

>>212442589
Yeah, I can't quantify the effect well enough because I can't be bothere too look statistics about how many people are employed into what kind of works and besides I'm not educated in economics enough to quantify the fall off effect on prices and on new work demand of non-remote jobs in smaller towns thanks to the remote workers living there but I think there's only positive effects from such a policy except for landlords and from managers who want to keep us under their keen eye.

>>212440882
Very nice cover, thanks for the rec, fren!
>>212441834
>>212441870
I agree 100%. If you recontextualize, things aren't so bad. They're actually better than they ever were in the big picture.
Might not stay that way for that long though.

>>212442652
>landlords
A category of people that deserves defenestration

>ywn never own a twinko exclusive drawing
>ywn never read a book written by Catnigga
>ywn eat Brune's grimtastic meals

>>212442607
>Most of that line is going for the big zoglords and you know it.
If you read my post well enough before you'd know that I agree with you in this and I already mentioned it before.
Still doesn't change the fact that most goods and services, except for housing, are more available for poor and middle class people now that basically ever, and that the solution to the inequality problem isn't to turn back to the politics of the previous times, because those policies precisely got us here.

>>212442673
Things will become horrendously worse with climate change in my opinion, but since our capitalist overlords are fine everything is fine

>>212442652
Work from home could solve a lot, but you’d have to pay a good premium for people that actually need to go to work. I can already see the college educated people seething at the plumber making double what they earn.
(Yes, I’m all for paying pelo that go to work because they need to a premium because they have more expenses).

>>212442723
Do you think piedini deserves that?

>>212442782
I’ve just told you several essential goods that are more expensive now, but you ignored those.

>>212442769
>ywn eat one of Portuchads amazingly succulent meals

>>212442769
I am more than fine without the last one ahahah

>>212442785
It's amazing to me how the effects of climate change are more obvious than ever but yet right wingers reject it more strongly than 10 years ago.
Those right wingers should be becoming eco-fascist scums if they wanted to keep Europe free of immigrants considering the effects that climate change is going to have in Africa, the Middle East and South Asia but yet they are the people most opposed to changing our means of production to greener ones even if they are more inefficient.

>>212442800
I simply think that letting houses should not be an investment, if you want passive income it should come from the stock market or from bonds

>>212442785
we need to kill billionaires

>>212442922
Yes, capitalists and politicians should be constantly fearing for their lives and having neck pain from constantly looking over their shoulders

>>212442769
>twinko drawing
That hurts the most, I’d very much like a big one on my wall in his black on white/cream paper style with the grimiest horrornimal.

>>212442494
Now adjust it for inflation

>>212442880
Agreed, house market speculation is terrible for society as a whole.

>>212442800
>Work from home could solve a lot, but you’d have to pay a good premium for people that actually need to go to work.
Not in a market economy like what we have, it would be all about offer and demand, just like now.
>I can already see the college educated people seething at the plumber making double what they earn.
That thing only happens in /pol/, in real life college educated people on average make more than tradesmen.
>(Yes, I’m all for paying pelo that go to work because they need to a premium because they have more expenses).
Me too.
>I’ve just told you several essential goods that are more expensive now, but you ignored those.
I can't find the data already calculated for Portugal, so here is the US, but the share of income spend on food is trending to lower and lower, while people are getting in more calories, I'm sure that's true for basically every country on Earth.
Same is true for other household essentials.
Cars are also cheaper now, some particular models might have gotten more expensive but it's not a fair comparison because current models have much more features, if you get a Dacia now it's going to be relatively cheaper that getting a Volkswagen 30 years ago and it's going to be a better car.

>>212442880
kill all landlords?

>>212443077
That's already adjusted for inflation dude.
You just think life was easier in the 2000s because you were a little kid and it was your parents who were working to bring in food so food was free for you, it's normal that now you think food is more expensive when you have to get it yourself.

>>212442769
>ywn eat Brune's grimtastic meals
Who knows my nigga

>>212441726
>do you think you're gonna complete all of it by the end of the day ?
Sure. I only have like 10 square metres of floor left to vacumm clean (took a break as my pizza was ready already in the oven), cleaning the bath and taking a bath should not take more than 45 mins tops, then I'll have around 5 hours to do whatever I want before watering the garden, then I'll have another 3 hours to do whatever I want before heading to bed.
>Am back from the rooning
Distance?

>>212441923
I really like Mio's clusmy character. Her being brown is also le good.
Looks-wise I'd say Hizuru.

>>212442782
>most goods
Lower quality than 3 decades ago.
>services
Also lower quality than 3 decades ago.
So it's obvious it's easier to afford.

>>212442863
>eco-fascist
Zased

>>212443141
>That thing only happens in /pol/, in real life college educated people on average make more than tradesmen.
Tradesmen who know their shit earn way more than college educated people on average doe. Most of the tradesmen I know literally can't catch a break because they always have places to be and do the needful (and by doing the needful, outearn those who work in an office with a degree).

>>212442386
Quite a squiddy day

>>212443148
Landlords are easy to hate but they are small fish, you need to kill people in parliaments and in multinationals' boards of directors

>>212443227
Around 7-8 kilometers

>>212442769
I too wish to eat glue.

>>212442305
>but there have been much worse economic situations in our lifetime.
The only one that's comparable (at least in the UK) is the GFC, and in some ways, it wasn't as bad as COVID. Salaries flatlining isn't great when inflation is high and the price of basic consumer goods like food increases by 50% over the course of three years. COVID also hurt youngfags and poorfags more than the GFC did, since those are typically the sorts of people working in tourism, restaurants, hospitality, etc. I don't know what other situations you might be thinking of, but you have to go back to the 1980s to find something as bad in the UK.
>Just think about how many people work in finance or IT in London and what would happen if they were mandated to do that work remote.
I thought this was already the case. As far as I'm aware, a large percentage of people in the IT/finance sector work remotely, and just commute into London whenever they need to.
>>212442092
If I were born 100 years ago, they would have made me fight in World War 2. Probably would have gotten shot by some German sniper in Tobruk.

>>212442863
>eco-fascist
I am.

>>212443227
Lad, what the fuck is this? >>212442475

>>212443227
>>most goods
>Lower quality than 3 decades ago.
>>services
>Also lower quality than 3 decades ago.
>So it's obvious it's easier to afford.
Can you explain how things are lower quality now than 3 decades ago?
I mean in a quantifiable way, not just your opinion.
>Tradesmen who know their shit earn way more than college educated people on average doe. Most of the tradesmen I know literally can't catch a break because they always have places to be and do the needful (and by doing the needful, outearn those who work in an office with a degree).
You are selecting a subset of tradesmen, tradesmen with experience, and compared them to all college educated people.
If I selected college educated people with the same amount of experience as those tradesmen, they are going to gain more on average, and if I chose college educated people that got non-useless degrees like English literature or teaching the comparison would be even more in favour of college educated people.

>>212443318
Lel, unironically just saved that pic like 2 mins before you posted as I wanted to bait /med/ders later fr fr.
>what the fuck is this?
Red wine diluted with water (or sparkling water, sometimes lemon flavoured sparkling water).

>>212443141
>Cars are also cheaper now, some particular models might have gotten more expensive but it's not a fair comparison because current models have much more features, if you get a Dacia now it's going to be relatively cheaper that getting a Volkswagen 30 years ago and it's going to be a better car.
It shows that you don't drive, cars are constantly getting worse and more expensive, I've driven a bit a new car that my best friend's family bought and it's shit, and they even agree that it's shit but it's the least bad they could find

For the rest I agree with you

>>212443318
Proof that Magyars are greco-romans and therefore /med/

>>212443303
My grandfather fought as a tankist in Africa, he was then captured and kept in Kenya and barely survived
I never met him but my dad tells me he was VERY Anglophobic

>>212443341
>tradesmen with experience
Yeah, like 2-3 years of experience desu.
>Can you explain how things are lower quality now than 3 decades ago?
Food is lower quality and I think I don't need to explain why.
Clothes are lower quality as they are made not to last long but at least they are cheap because they are made in Bangladesh.
You could argue that TVs, refrigaterators, and electorincs are not of lower quality and you'd be right. Then again they are going to end up in the trash much shooner than they ended up in the trash say 30 years ago.
Pretty much food is of worse quality, and everything that's not food will end up in the trash much sooner than decades ago.

>>212443318
People used to do the same in Veneto as a predecessor of the modern spritz, basically just mixing white wine and sparkling water
I tried it sometimes, it's not bad in summer

>refrigaterators
Hungarian moment

I ate too much potatoes.

>>212443387
>I never met him but my dad tells me he was VERY Anglophobic
It's okay, I forgive him.
Do you still have all his old medals and stuff? My grandfather fought in WW2 as well, but all of that stuff has been lost to time unfortunately.

>>212443141
That means society would devolve very quickly and the wagies at the cagies would kill all work from home people.
>me too
I’m glad we agree on some things.
>US
You can’t really compare amerilards to Europeans.
>new car is better than old car
New cars have a lot of feature creep, I wish we could have cars where I could simply not have cameras and driving aids and LCD panels and stuff like that.
But a Renault was more affordable before. A Golf was more affordable before than now. A Fiat was more affordable than now. Even Dacias.

>>212443303
>back to the 80’s to find something as bad
The same here.

>>212443341
Things are definitely of lower quality. Again, look at cars, with all the cheap paneling for an example (I worked for the auto industry, so I know). Or home appliances that are made to self destruct in five-ten years.
Clear example, my factory makes stuff. We’re always trying to cheapen out on shit to “compete with the chinks” (in reality is to fill the pockets of the globohomo even more).

>>212443352
Absolutely horrendous.
Just sip some water in between the wine instead of ruining the wine.

>>212443354
I decided to do a comparison that I think is apt, a new Seat Ibiza in 2000 costed 11000 €, now a new Seat Ibiza cost 14500 €, so it's more expensive but salaries are higher and the car is better, bigger, more powerful and with more security features already included.
I think you are letting your subjective opinion of cars affect your judgement.

>>212443441
>Food is lower quality and I think I don't need to explain why.
Yes, you do.
>Clothes are lower quality as they are made not to last long but at least they are cheap because they are made in Bangladesh.
People chose cheaper and worse quality clothes so that's what dominating the market, now people can buy clothes that are sightly worse than what people bought 100 years ago but they can buy much more clothing.
The amount of clothing people own now is crazy compared to the past.
>You could argue that TVs, refrigaterators, and electorincs are not of lower quality and you'd be right. Then again they are going to end up in the trash much shooner than they ended up in the trash say 30 years ago.
The shelf life of certain technology products definitely has gone down but they are for the most part higher quality and cheaper, and many times they end up in the trash because people buy new technology more frequently.

>>212443441
>end up in the trash much shooner

>>212443575
Yeah, and I can tell you that a Fiat Panda was something like 9k in 2016/2017, nowadays the price is at the very least 16k
The price almost doubled and the car is still shit, probably with even cheaper materials than the old one

>>212443561
>That means society would devolve very quickly and the wagies at the cagies would kill all work from home people.
No lol, if people aren't killing rich people now when the difference between them and us is so stark, there's no reason to kill a fellow worker who has sightly better working conditions and whose sightly better working conditions actually benefit you (less contamination for transport, less demand on housing).>>US
>You can’t really compare amerilards to Europeans.
You can, the trend for food prices is global, you can just see it in third world countries they went from starving regularly to being full of fat fucks.
>New cars have a lot of feature creep, I wish we could have cars where I could simply not have cameras and driving aids and LCD panels and stuff like that.
Those features make the cars safer, and the cheaper panneling is a tradeoff most people are willing to take.
>But a Renault was more affordable before. A Golf was more affordable before than now. A Fiat was more affordable than now. Even Dacias.
Look at the example of a Golf, it was barely cheaper in the past but it was a much worse car, and now you can get a cheaper car than those old Golfs that are way, way better.

>>212443666
I don't know the case of the Panda in particular, but it could possibly be that at the time Fiat was trying to push that car in particular or there were some form of rebate that made the car cheaper.

>>212443575
New Seats are SHIT compared with old ones. It’s you who are being subjective regarding cars.

>>212443575
>shelf life has gone down but their better quality
This is an oxymoron.

>>212443718
>cheap panelling
What about cheap soldered joints, cheap stamped metal, cheap outside plastics, cheaper motor blocks, cheap screws, cheap optics? One things that has improved a lot in cars is paint. And that’s it really.
>golf was a much worse car
You can pick an 80’s golf and he will work fine. You can’t really do the same with a 10’s Golf that has disintegrating door seals and injection problems.

>>212443764
In 2013 in Italy you could get a (most basic version with no optionals) Polo for 12/13k
Nowadays to get the same version you'd need to pay 23/24k
And as Portuchad says, everything nowadays is shittier, with more plastic and falls apart faster
I completely agree with your general opinion but the car market is a thing of its own

>>212443843
>New Seats are SHIT compared with old ones. It’s you who are being subjective regarding cars.
Cars nowadays are safer and have more powerful engines, what else you want?
I'm not being subjective, I don't give a crap about cars.

>>212443843
>>shelf life has gone down but their better quality
>This is an oxymoron.
What's better quality a 4k television that breaks down in 5 years or a 360p television that lasts 30?

>>212443843
>You can pick an 80’s golf and he will work fine. You can’t really do the same with a 10’s Golf that has disintegrating door seals and injection problems.
Well I see more 10s Golfs in the streets than 80s Golfs so I suspect this statement might not be enterily true, besides being a robust car is good but it's not the only thing that people care about in cars.
Besides, second hand cars are now more common to buy because they hold up better.

>>212443982
>I completely agree with your general opinion but the car market is a thing of its own
I disagree but I don't know what else to show you that stuff like the pic in >>212443718
I'm definitely not an expert in the car market but I fail to see how cars could get more expensive when productivity of factories has risen up, one simple explanation could be price gouging but while that might happen for a short period of time it's generally not very sustainable.
Cars are more expensive because of feature creep, but the cheaper models are better and cheaper than years ago.

>all this talk about cars in the tens of thousands of euros
Goddamn richfags. Why are none of you buying 2007 Audis for £700?

>>212442785
Exactly, couldn't agree more. But I feel it's important to recall that we can do nice things at our level, even if we can't change the big issues.
>>212442812
This, especially the BBQs! Add Galicianon's BBQs too
>>212442981
Yeah that'd be so rad...
>>212443188
Heheh who knows indeed...

>>212443575
>Yes, you do.
Soil is worse quality because "bro we need more crop, people will throw it into the trash because they won't eat it but we need to sell the crop bro". Fertilizers fuck up the ground and lower the quality of the crop in the long term. You might have more crop, but it's worse. All the shit in the rain water (in some areas rain water got classified as unsafe for human consumption some years ago) gets into the plant then later into your body, which again lowers the quality. Animals also are fed literal shit, lowering the quality of the meat. And they are cut down at a younger age, again, lowering the quality of the meat.
>they can buy much more clothing.
>worse than what people bought
Yes, that was the point. And it's not only slightly worse. Compare the same brand of two tshirts made today and in the 00s and you'll feel the difference.
>higher quality and cheaper
Can't think of any electronic products other than TVs that are of better quality (like 4k instead of a VHS with its 240p).

>>212443599
Exblain plz.

>>212444122
Here is your 14k euros 2008 Audi Catnigga

>>212444280
Bodied that freak

>>212443987
>more powerful engines
Is that why most people are running 1.0L petrol engines with absolute no torque (me included)? You don’t know what you’re talking about.
>TV comparison
False dichotomy, because the display the has improved. They could make a 4K TV that would last 30 years and without the need to break bank, but they won’t.

>I see more modern than old cars in the streets
Because all dealerships have programs to take in old cars for a small discount towards your new car. It’s their way of taking competition out of the market and sell more. And people slurp that shit.

>>212444061
>cheaper models are cheaper and better
No.

>>212443718
>pic
Even if you adjust it for inflation, the average joe could save up enough money to buy the car in a much shorter time than today.

>>212444201
>Soil is worse quality because "bro we need more crop, people will throw it into the trash because they won't eat it but we need to sell the crop bro". Fertilizers fuck up the ground and lower the quality of the crop in the long term. You might have more crop, but it's worse. All the shit in the rain water (in some areas rain water got classified as unsafe for human consumption some years ago) gets into the plant then later into your body, which again lowers the quality. Animals also are fed literal shit, lowering the quality of the meat. And they are cut down at a younger age, again, lowering the quality of the meat.
Can you show me a peer reviewed study showing this?
>Yes, that was the point. And it's not only slightly worse. Compare the same brand of two tshirts made today and in the 00s and you'll feel the difference.
Higher quality clothing is still available and relatively as affordable as before, people just prefer to buy the cheap stuff that lasts less but they get more variety, how is that a bad thing? People are free to choose.
>Can't think of any electronic products other than TVs that are of better quality (like 4k instead of a VHS with its 240p).
You are literally using one right now, a computer or a phone, also many appliances nowadays generally consume less electricity, which is desirable to combat climate change.

>>212444280
I don't know enough about cars to make detailed comparisons (this one is the same colour), but don't you have like €500 shitboxes in Italy?
I spent £5k on my first (and only) car, but that was because I'm a nervous driver and wanted something that wasn't going to need too much maintenance, and it only had 18k miles on the clock. I had buyers remorse later on and wished I had spent the money on a better computer instead though.

>>212444308
I'm getting bored of talking about cars, specially with someone that won't accept simple facts like that the HP of cars has gone up over time.
>False dichotomy, because the display the has improved. They could make a 4K TV that would last 30 years and without the need to break bank, but they won’t.
Same for cars, the technology for cars is better so now cheap cars are faster and safer that cheap cars 30 years ago.
I agree that companies many times try to make products that break down in a certain time to force people to buy new ones but that's a different problem and is one that also existed 30 years ago.

>>212444331
Simply not true, specially not in fucking Hungary, during Communist times there were waiting lists for cars, in Western countries it's not the case either, but the difference is starker in Hungary.

>>212444354
KEK try buying a wool pullover and see how much its costs.
Parents were not rich by a longshot and they had SEVERAL (they still exists, indestructible clothing to be honest).

>>212444506
>I’m bored of being proven wrong
We can start talking about clothes now if you want, starting by my example above.

>>212444354
>an you show me a peer reviewed study showing this?
You can just google "is soil quality getting worse" and find that the first result is the environment programme of the UN telling you that the quality of the soil is in fact getting worse.
> people just prefer to buy the cheap stuff that lasts less
Again, let's say you bought the same cheap stuff in a store brand of your choice, like H&M. The clothes sold there 20 years ago, compared to the wages, were just as cheap as today, except the material used was better. This is true for all brands of clothing.
>a computer
My previous pc cost a third of my current pc, and back in its time ran games of its time just as good as my current pc runs current games. Meanwhile the gpu just makes it so that I boil to death in my room in the Summer thanks to all the electricity it consumes.
>also many appliances nowadays generally consume less electricity
Yes. But on average people nonetheless use more electricity than 30 years ago for example thanks to the higher amount of electronics.

>>212444506
>Simply not true, specially not in fucking Hungary
The pic you shared depicts the value in USD. My statement is true if we talk about those who lived and live in the US.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DKATCjAoa3j/?igsh=dDN3cDBiM3d6NDN4
Andalusanon starting his neurodivergent crusade against alcohol

>>212444781
I have googled it and it seems like I was wrong about food quality, but I think there are some things to point out because I think you are being reductionist about it, micronutrient density is lowered for some foods, but people nowadays are still getting more nutrionts (both micro and macro) than in the past, because of the increase in food quantity.
The decrease in food quality is something that I think needs to be addressed to some extent but it's not the result of things being simply worse, companies are planting cheaper, more productive crops that are less nutrionally dense because that's what sells more, and they are overexploiting soils for short term gains but this is more of a ecological problem than an economical problem, since this results in an increased availability of food.
>Again, let's say you bought the same cheap stuff in a store brand of your choice, like H&M. The clothes sold there 20 years ago, compared to the wages, were just as cheap as today, except the material used was better. This is true for all brands of clothing.
Can you source me up on that?
>My previous pc cost a third of my current pc, and back in its time ran games of its time just as good as my current pc runs current games. Meanwhile the gpu just makes it so that I boil to death in my room in the Summer thanks to all the electricity it consumes.
Your current PC is more powerful than your previous PC, it makes no sense to compare with the current games at the times because games are made for the current available hardware, and you can just play previous games if you want, you can buy a PC now for cheap and play more games than you could if you spent the same amount of money in a PC let's say 5 years ago, before the crazy GPU inflation, because with the technological increase GPUs are still more powerful than 5 years ago for the same price.

>>212443304
Based, same!

https://www.tiktok.com/@tariq_alaboudi82/video/7422629165117099271
https://music.apple.com/us/album/%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B1%D8%AF-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AD%D8%A7%D8%B1-single/1777452736

where's the full video? what's the lyrics about?

>>212442769
>>212442981
I ruined a drawing I spent like 40 collective hours on yesterday
sperged out when doing the watercolor
hard to describe how much autistic rage I felt

>>212445495
I am ready to commission you a painting of a nice horrormal, and I think gman would want one too.

>>212440677
A ladybug bit me a week ago.
They have multiplied too much and they are everywhere now.

>>212445495
You are an artist.
You don't have "rage", you have passion. You aren't "autistic", you're eccentric. You didn't "sperge out", you had a burst of creativity that went awry.

Dandy Jamahiriya.

Don't worry guys, me and my comrades (the chuds without borders) are crushing the birthrates worldwide and soon the zoglords will feel the consequences.

>>212446054
I think you should name your group "chuds without any borders", that way its acronym can be CWAB

>>212446158
For now the vote is for chuds sans frontières

>>212446054
HELLAS saving the world again

>>212446203
Official soundtrack.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95SWMqzM_Sg

>>212446251
Ideology is more important than dna.
Humans with a similar way of thinking regardless of their heritage can save us all by ending it all.

>>212446203
We need our own Outer Heaven. Somewhere cold and isolated, where women fear to tread - maybe Svalbard, or Tower Hamlets after 9pm.

>>212446342
I know just the place but only someone like Apollo knows the way and I doubt he would guide us there.

One point difference victories are my favourites, bodied that freak.

good morning everyone
>>212446054
I kneel
>>212446203
kek

>>212446489
Good morning Booma

>>212446342
>Most Muslim award
Ick

>>212446342
You can simply go to Afghanistan if you fancy only seeing men around, Catnigga

Two medders will not be invited to our chud retreat.

>>212447168
Far too hot for me, I need somewhere cold.

>>212447195
Whom?

>>212447195
The sexhavers

>>212446521
bonjour my friend
how is your saturday so far?
I'm in the middle of a ancient greek lesson
>>212447195
andalusianon and?

>>212447617
Why are you learning ancient Greek, what do you want to read? I can sell you my old books lol

I wonder if Greta still has her boat. I have a proposition for her.

>>212447953
>Just one day before the tragic incident, the motorcyclist had posted a series of pictures on Facebook of a large bear which appeared to be standing extremely close to him. Omar had also shared a selfie posing with a bear cub.

>>212448109
>I have a proposition for her.
And that would be?

>>212447841
He's right doe.
Sexhavers give us the 'ick.

>>212448711
>italian
>Omar
I'm nooooticing.

>>212448662
Hunting for abandoned goods and vessels on international waters.

>>212448840
Just avoid submarine

>>212448964
Crunch.

>>212449029
You should look up the machine used to get the treasure from Slot ter Hooge

>>212447661
autism
I have a list of languages I would like to learn for fun
english: you have to learn to work, etc.
french: learned by chance (cool 3rd language)
ancient greek: wanted to learn a "classical" one, but didn't want to go with latin
arabic: different alphabet (greek is technically different but lol) and non indo-european language
nheengatu: a structured version of one of the native languages of Brazil (tupi) to learn something from this place

>>212449804
>Native speakers 19,000 (2004–2008)
Damn, booma.
Why not just go for something like guarani instead to rizz up Paraguayan and Bolivian hoes?
For me the autism language would be unironically Aramaic btw fr fr.

>le putting things you like on your hat is... le zesty...
zesty mindset

>>212450013
t. eemo

>>212450013
Wash your dishes, zesty-kun.

>The EU wants to decrypt your private data by 2030
>EU law enforcement bodies could be capable of decrypting your private data by 2030.
>This is one of the ambitious goals the EU Commission presented in its Roadmap on June 24, 2025. A plan on how the bloc intends to ensure police officers' "lawful and effective" access to citizens' data.
That's some 1984 tier shit.

>>212450013
Zesty eyes. Zesty hair. Zesty hat. Absolutely high T heterosexual stamps on the hat.

>>212449988
I thought about guaraní but I don't know, let's see
>Aramaic
I wonder why
>>212450013
peculiar hat

>>212450013
holy mother of zestyness

>>212450013
I agree with you, pins on hats/caps are fine and not zesty.
But we're talking about dudes that think kissing your boys on the cheek when you meet them is gay so don't bother.

>>212450863
that's the Celtic phenotype, actual Anglo-Saxonic looks more like this

The wife washing my dirty undies after I spent all day gooning.

>>212443185
My father earned twice the amount I do now without studies, If you think we are better economically now than in the early 2000s you're out of your fucking mind

>>212450163
All of my encrypted data contains pictures of my balls so good luck to the lucky guy who will decrypt it.

>>212451416
Liar, you would have coomed inside.

>>212450252
>I wonder why
Autism

>>212451621
She already tapped out thanks to the large size and the hardness of my cock, so I had to goon to gay porn afterwards to get rid of my enormous erection.

>>212451416
if you actually had your own negrita you'd coom inside her you lying son of a bitch

>>212451751
objectively fucking wrong and anyone who says that should have a stone or bone javelin thrown at them
just as the neolithic european tribes who first started consuming dairy 9000 years ago intended!

>>212445673
I mean think you got me on the 'cord
I used to be on the med server
you can hit up there if you really wanna
I just don't wanna share my drawingerinos on something with a public archive that can easily be linked to retarded old posts of mine because I have a pretty recognizable autistic way of typing things

>>212452003
>sayla
I'll be honest, I like the gilf too.

>>212452107
*keep posting his face to make troons lust at him*

>>212452227
Jayma is cool, but you barely get to spend any time with her whilst Sayla is the first valley wenja you meet and is right there at the end
also she's a cute schizo

>>212451621
No, he would have begged her to put on a dildo and peg him.

>>212452520
What did he mean by that

>>212452107
>I mean think you got me on the 'cord
Do I?

>>212425054 (OP)
What's up niggas, it's Argentinette reporting live from Ciudad Autónoma de Buenos Aires! I'm here with Argentinotte and I feel like the most interesting place in this giant city at the moment is his apartment. He inherited it from his grandpa and he has a whole ass library with books ranging from Mein Kampf to Karl Marx's works, and he was a history chud, and law college student. Also Argentinotte put on a trash bag as a piece of clothing here in the apartment kek.
Oh, I also tried a Paella for the first time! It was actually super really tasty, although a bit too soft on spice-level for me. I almost choked on the octopus tentacles and I FINALLY HAD SHRIMP FOR THE FIRST TIME IN MY LIFE
CATNIGGA YOU WERE RIGHT, SHRIMPS ARE LIT

>>212452645
idk
gman got me for sure
you could ask him

>>212452807
>from Mein Kampf to Karl Marx's
Andalu-sama ROCKED

>>212452956
She also liked the pancrustacea, lots of things to get offended by in that post.

>>212425054 (OP)
Can someone provide net average wage of polish programmers? Only your statistical office please, no third party websites. Here it is 2609 euros in april 2025. Its J 62 classification

>>212453044
/10? >>212450067

>>212453184
Why the fuck are you asking here you serbshit, go ask in /copper/ we're your romanian mother lives

>>212453390
Why so angry with the serb?

>>212453261
6.

>>212453390
Fascist scum.

>>212452496
>but you barely get to spend any time with her
I'd spend more time with her if you catch my drift.
>also she's a cute schizo
I could have unironically fixed her.

I slept instead of exercising this afternoon, it's over.

At least I roon in the morning.

Finland had 200 000 spanish tourist Last year, most still during winter but lately even number summer tourist have rised, spanish tourist told that the temperatures are much more pleasing.

Just came from the radio

>>212452807
HE HAS A FUCKING SWORD WHAT THE FUCK
I wonder if this is a real piece, the upper border of the knife is thick, and the lower one is thin and slightly sharp, but has not been sharpened in a while. The handle (?) looks a lot like a katana's. I don't think it's a saber, it's too straight.

>>212452807
based and history pilled
also surprised shrimp isn't that common in LatAm, people eat that shit way too often around here

>>212453604
Holy weeb

>>212452956
And we found a note from his grandpa (probably) calling someone a prostitute woman and some chud chicken writing. Seems like he was an odd fellow, not too dissimilar from the regular /his/ enthusiast.
>>212453044
It was tasty though! Kind of similar to chicken, and the texture wasn't disgusting like octopus!
>>212453674
I truly have no idea, maybe it's more common on the pacific coast in Chile, or the atlantic near the European continent...?

I don't think I've sweat as much as I did today.
>>212449241
I was referring to floating stuff desu.
>>212449362
You in heaven?
>>212450013
Patches are fine, I mean it all depends on what's on the patch.

>>212453604
It is always the katana, and never a claymore or a cutlass.

>>212453868
Oh that.

>>212453600
With climate change, in a few years you'll have Spanish climate refugees there.

>>212453761
I won't eat the pancrustacea.

>>212452807
>HAD SHRIMP FOR THE FIRST TIME IN MY LIFE
what the fuck, how?
>>212453604
>inb4 french anon posting sword apu

>>212454082
Would take 1000 Iberians over single iraqi or somali.

Just remember that se never were those brittish/north west Euroopan tourists.

>>212453868
>You in heaven?
Not really. Picrel is closer.

>>212452807
>whole ass library with books ranging from Mein Kampf to Karl Marx's works, and he was a history chud, and law college student.
Zased

>>212453761
I think maybe sea food just isn't as big outside Europe and Asia I dunno

>>212454082
YOU VIL EAT ZE SHRIMP
YOU VIL EAT ZE LOBSTER
UND IT VIL BE DELICIOUS

>>212454695
Hm?

>>212454749
Afghanistan shared a whole tiger shrimp lmao

Fjur qalbi.

>>212455972
Is that what malteser pipo say when they reach the climax?

>>212456526
No.

>>212457731
Sorry, have a picture.

>>212457731
I'd post it but I already posted it yesterday.

>>212457731
have this comfy 'geon

>>212458079
Saw one taking a bath earlier
Cute fr

>>212458022
You need to expand your collection

>>212457969
Zased

Would you have baby making sex with an elf if they existed and we could make mules with them?

>>212457731
can't be helped

>>212458395
understandable
total elf impregnation

>>212458395
Yes, especially those bhc addicted dark elves

>>212457731
'jak is BALLIN'

>>212455972
>>212456178
Sesso

9 men PSG beat Bayern, tonight it's Real Madrid vs Dortmund
>>212458397
Aren't pets taken into the cargo hold of the plane ?

15 minutes

>>212458395
>>212458467
Wanna trade?

>>212459739
do Elves come from Finland?

>>212459836
Gorda puta.

>>212459836
Ask Tolkien who really is father of a modern fantasy

>>212458790
I think some airlines do, I don't think smaller animals need to go in the hold

>>212460274
Nice, I'd like to go on the plane with my kot.

Dunno how they could avoid lawsuits if a passenger is allergic to your pet though.

Also juicy latina cooming material acquired

>>212459898
rude
chill hermano
have uma cerveja
>>212460005
>elves
>but actually dwarfs
hmm....

>>212460343
I don't like the taste of beer.

2-0 for Madrid

>>212460343
>Iberian talking about gnomes or dwarfs.. I cant but

https://youtube.com/watch?v=pxLOqHutHrM&pp=ygUMVGFhdmkgdG9udHR10gcJCcEJAYcqIYzv

Just finished eating a 500g T-bone with fries (rare blue). I’m already feeling the testosterone bulging in my veins.

>>212458395
TES (total elf sexstruction)

>>212460343
She really is fat fren.

>>212460579
Real high t men like me prefer their food cooked.

>>212460864
>ruining the enzymes and taurine present in uncooked meat
NGMI

>>212460474
suspiciously underage take

>>212460474
Basado

>>212460474
pussy ass bitch

>>212461166
Fellow taurine enjoyer i see, Barbados that is why im addicted to energy drinks.

Good night, sisters.

>>212460474
It tastes hella bad tbf.

>>212461166
I'm a human not a mindless beast I cook my food.

>>212461497
I'm sadly not underage, I wish I were young and not a 27 years old boomer.

>>212461560
Fakecel.

>>212461787
Wine > spirits > piss water, simple as.

>>212460579
Based

>>212461921
Agreed, but beer can still be good, I enjoyed drinking 2 Maß a day in Munich

>>212461985
Never said beer couldn’t be good.

>got looked at by man from toes to head again award

>>212462043
What?

>>212462043
do u look gay?

>>212462043
must be your zesty looks

>>212460474
You have to drink it cold, you know.

>>212462074
>>212462197
>>212462239
>on regional party with succubus and kid
>go look for something
>pass by guy (that is with another guy)
>looks at me with a lot of intensity
>probably make him a strange face
>reach kid and succubus
>he lowers his head
Bodied that freddy mercury guy to be honest.

>>212462640
he was checking you out and got the ick when he saw the two things homos despise the most: functional nuclear families and europeans being allowed to reproduce

>kiddo walking up to local hottie and striking a conversation with her telling her how she’s pretty
I-I didn’t h-have this game at his age goddamn.

>>212463050
wtf hes got more game then me

>>212460343
>have uma cerveja
I'm actualy having one
feels good
>>212460474
unbased

Bodied these freaks once again

tomorrow is my godmother's bday bbq party, gonna eat and drink so much

I don't know about bodying a freak, but I'd bed one.

>>212463362
That was a very close game, I won thanks to a nice combination at the very end

>>212463459
Birdman kicked my ass.

Real won despite blatant refereeing against them, PSG in the semi finals

>>212463891
>refereeing against them
VARdrid supporters are something else

>>212462453
Exactly this!
>warm beer
Bad
>cold beer
Good

>>212464056
But it was they gave a red card plus penalty and 9 minutes of extra time when it was 5 minutes initially

>brownoid with a literal crutch walking around with his daughter and 9/10 blonde wife
There’s still hope for Andaluzanon.

good night

>>212465857
Cute kot, bathed my two kots today and they behaved like lords, no fucks given (much petting needed).