Thread 63908478

Had the Germans won WW2 what kind of technological advancements in weapons would humanity have achieved by 2025?

The same one as US has now. Probably more advanced medicine since Nazis would continue to use humans as labrats without any considerations

>>63908489
When was the last time Americans invented anything?

>>63908489
Japs would also have found increasing ways to kill Chinese people.
No, wait. If The Axis wins then WTF does Japan do with China?

>>63908501
AR?

>>63908478 (OP)
Fuck all. Socialist economies are anti-innovation and Nazi economics were almost as bad as the bolsheviks'.

>>63908501
Peanut butter

>>63908506
Improving upon a already existing design =/= invention. The Chinese invented firearms.
>>63908507
You're brainwashed. The nazis made massive advances in a years. The nazis made the first jet engines the first rockets.

been a while since I've seen a wehraboo thread now

>>63908543
NAZI SUPREME ENGINEERING PLYWOOD FOLDED 6 MILLION TIMES
WOULD HAD WON WW2 IF ONLY VGGGGHHHH

>>63908527
>You're brainwashed. The nazis made massive advances in a years
During a war, after inheriting a non-socialist German economy, before Hitler had the chance to go through with his full economic plans.
The moment they win the war, uncle Adolf would've started pushing for full socialization through his four year plans, trying to build autarky like it's North Korea, synchronizing (gleichschaltung) things even further and ruining everything for the future Germans, despite having won the war.

>>63908478 (OP)
Little after the 50s because they rejected "jewish science" which means willfully losing out on physics and by association electronics

>>63908561
Because the weimar had a such great economy, right?

No.

>>63908478 (OP)
>pic
Jack Northrop had a functional flying wing years before the Hortons.

>>63908501
Ozempic

>>63908597
The Weimar economy was already leftist, if not socialistic in truth. Social democrats (socialists who think the revolution should be non-violent at this point in time) holding public (social) control over central banking and causing hyperinflation through entirely irresponsible monetary mechanisms.
Hitler was only going to make things worse, as he tried to synchronize not just the economy, but the entire nation, in every single aspect it represents. Had Hitler been given free reign over Germany, he would have created absolute hell.

>>63908561
>>63908671
Based and Toozepilled

>>63908527
>The first jet engines
Whittle.
>The first rockets
Goddard.

>>63908478 (OP)
(you)

>>63908501
There are two kinds of nations
Those that have never set foot on the moon and the United States.

>>63908697
The Germans were working on those back in the 20s. and the one in your picture isn't even a jet, kike.

>>63908489
This is the most likely answer.
Now a allies/axis cold war would be a whole nother story. Could have been more kino, and existentially dreadful, than our cold war.

>>63908503
>WTF does Japan do with China?
Most likely? Puppet state for farming/resource extraction with the coastal areas being under direct Japanese controls. Probably with similar programs as in korea.

>>63908640
It's danish

>>63908561
>>63908604
>>63908671
>>63908677
>63908558
>63908697
proud trans jew

>>63908723
The ones german were flying in in 1942 also were not jets, clown. Picrel is the Ho V, the one th krauts flown in 1942. Does it look familiar? Now take a look at Northrop flying wing from 1939, the one from the picture that made you so angry.

Also they were not
>working on those back in the 20s.
you fucking mouthbreather. In 1920s Horten brothers were still in primary school. Reimar was biorn in 1915 and Walter in 1913.

>>63908501
today

>>63908503
>WTF does Japan do with China?
You mean mainland Nipon?

>>63909111
You can't just come in here with your facts and destroy a wehraboos delusions? What next you attack the poor slavaboos? The weebs? Is that what you want?

>>63909111
I'm not talking about the brothers, you retard. I'm talking about other Germans, like Junkers and Lippisch who worked on flying wings long before the 30s.
What's with you fudd faggots and your terminal inferiority complex anyway?

>>63908640
that's danish doe

>>63908478 (OP)
I think it would be less, Nazi Germany was not a regime built to last. After Hitler croaks it would fall apart in power struggles and revolts. Possible intervention of foreign powers.
>But Germany won, who would intervene
The US, only way Germany would ever have a chance of winning is the US isn't at war with Germany.

>>63909111
looks way better than the shit you posted

>>63908501
Prob never

>>63908953
>t.

So German super science in action thread?

>>63908489
they learned almost nothing medically from torturing people

>>63909316
Oh, so now we are not talking about horten vs northrop?
Fine by me.
Lippish first lifting body deltas are still 1930s. Junkers degsins were from ariund 1919 and stayed on paper. Thew closest thing to a flying wing he actually built was g38, and it had a fucking normal tail.
Meanwhile take a look at picrel.
John William Dunne. D5, 1910. Now go fuck yourself, cuntboy

>>63909442
>looks way better than the shit you posted
Are you blind? Horten is crude as fuck compared to northrop, from aerodynamics standpoint.

Hon hon hon bosches, 1891 Adder Avion III. Beat that one .

>>63909552
Except about hypothermia, frostbite, burns, gangrene, barotrauma, chemical burns and so on.
A lot of it was just torture, but they did learn some things that set the grounds for post war works that are still in reference use today.

>>63909699
Ironically enough, given the modern day perception that flying wings can only flyable wkth fly by wire, dunnes flying box wing is also the first naturally stable airplane, the wright brothers's flyer and Santos-Dumond bis were unstable in pitch.

>>63909699
Ironically enough, given the modern day perception that flying wings can only be flown with fly by wire, dunnes d5 (a flying box wing)is also the first naturally stable airplane, the wright brothers's flyer and Santos-Dumond 14 bis were unstable in pitch.

>>63908478 (OP)

For this I’m going to assume that by Germany winning, you mean America doesn’t enter the war on the Allied side (at least not until it’s too late to make a difference), Britain is forced to make a humiliating peace, essentially abandoning continental Europe for its own survival, and Germany was able to cleave off enough of the Soviet Union (Ukraine, Belarus, Western Russia, etc.) to militarily neuter it.

>America remains the sole nuclear power on the planet into the 1950s due to the USSR being too economically ruined by the war, Nazi Germany not possessing the scientific know-how, and France effectively no longer existing as an independent country
>American nuclear arsenal remains aircraft-based due not having absorbed German rocketry expertise via Operation Paperclip
>German ballistic missile development hits a brick wall until computer technology is able to catch up enough to make guidance systems feasible
>American missile development eventually catches up, but Germany could potentially maintain an advantage in the field into the 1960s
>StG 44 development continues until get we get something analogous to the G3 in 7.92 Kurz
>German arms are the second-if not most common worldwide
>French and Belgian arms are interwar antiquities used by their former colonies, with Germany having absorbed their industries
>Soviet arms are still present, but nowhere nearly as common
>Germany’s primary means of power projection is getting South Americans and Africans to chimp out or lobbing missiles at Great Britain

>>63908478 (OP)

For this I’m going to assume that by Germany winning, you mean America doesn’t enter the war on the Allied side (at least not until it’s too late to make a difference), Britain is forced to make a humiliating peace, essentially abandoning continental Europe for its own survival, Germany was able to cleave off enough of the Soviet Union (Ukraine, Belarus, Western Russia, etc.) to militarily neuter it, and that the regime wasn’t dumb enough to go through with the Final Solution or at least limited it to Eastern European Jews (let’s be honest, even Zionists would have thrown Russian and Ukrainian Jews under the bus if it meant saving Polish and German Jews).

>America remains the sole nuclear power on the planet into the 1950s due to the USSR being too economically ruined by the war, Nazi Germany not possessing the scientific know-how, and France effectively no longer existing as an independent country
>American nuclear arsenal remains aircraft-based due not having absorbed German rocketry expertise via Operation Paperclip
>German ballistic missile development hits a brick wall until computer technology is able to catch up enough to make guidance systems feasible
>American missile development eventually catches up, but Germany could potentially maintain an advantage in the field into the 1960s
>StG 44 development continues until get we get something analogous to the G3 in 7.92 Kurz
>German arms are the second-if not most common worldwide
>French and Belgian arms are interwar antiquities used by their former colonies, with Germany having absorbed their industries
>Soviet arms are still present, but nowhere nearly as common
>Germany’s primary means of power projection is getting South Americans and Africans to chimp out or lobbing missiles at Great Britain

Technological progress would instantly fall off a cliff because nazis banned entire fields of physic's and math for "being jewish". Germany would then regress into a slave state. A few decades later, the polish, belarusian and russian slaves would achieve critical mass and revolt successfully, then indiscriminately rape, shoot and hang every german man, woman and child. (Remember that nazi germany barely put down the warsaw uprising and couldn’t even keep belarusian partisans from creating nazi-free enclaves) This is because nazism is a retarded ideology that is doomed to fail

>>63909740
There is a movie out there made from a guards point af view and staking people out to freeze is normal in it. No Idea what it is called, I followed a link in the day.

>>63908478 (OP)
Do zoomjeets really believe that the B2 was made in 2025?
>>63909939
>le movies is le true!
Did they also have the masturbation death machines, the ultrafreezers that shattered jews to billions of pieces in seconds, or the deathcoasters?

UK, 1926.

>>63909956
First flew in 1924. Pity all the photographs are awful, looks like it was adorable.

That’s such a wildly divergent outcome from reality that it’s hard to imagine what would happen. Ie, for Germany to have won would have required the balance of strength to be so vastly tilted in the other direction that any scenario trying to examine what they’d do after the war just turns into fantasy. If both West and East allies decided to enter a peace agreement for some reason with Germany, it would depend on what point of time this peace agreement would take place. In our timeline Germany was being crushed so thoroughly that there would be nothing less than total surrender accepted. So what does Germany have to look like in order to be strong enough to force the allies into a peace agreement? That’s why it’s fantasy and not worth seriously thinking about; the alternate reality Germany would be in a completely different economic and technological space in this period of time than in our reality.

>>63910078
A Borah/Vandenberg ticket winning the 1936 US election somehow might've done it. For certain definitions of German victory.

>>63909937
>>63909931
No "win" scenario I see would ever last longer than two decades at the most.


On one side you'd have the risk of Hitler Keeling over and all of his retarded underlings fighting amongst themselves, not to mention that the German economy was dependent on wars and looting other countries for their wealth and resources.
Were they going to start a war against Spain and Italy?

What about the ridiculously massive and completely undefendable border frontier in Russia which would certainly be infested with partisans and whatever remnants of the Soviet union was left?

>>63909736
>Shittty little steamshart design that never even properly flew
The Wrights won.

/myguy/ and /mygirl/ finna win the Street Fighter 6 Sajam Slam!

>>63908478 (OP)
Given German engineering realities, a Nazi B-2 would require you to disassemble the cockpit and remove the engines to perform maintenance on the landing gear.

>>63908478 (OP)
It's kinda funny how like 90% of Wehrabok shit over the flying wing design is largely just motivated by people wanting to dunk on Americans and try to frame this as Americans being too stupid to invent anything without the Superior Germans.
Kinda bullshit for the Russians too, since stealth designs were all based off of Mathematics that a Russian academic developed.

>>63908527
>The nazis made massive advances in a year
Literally all the "super scientists" of Nazi Germany were educated and raised under the old Kaiserreich or Weimar era. We have no way of knowing what actual Nazi academics would look like since they only lasted 12 years and any scientist or engineer raised under that system would've been too young to do anything of note.

>>63908478 (OP)
Overall less advanced since one-party corruption and a top-down economy slows innovation. Less advanced military and space engineering because there's no rival strong enough to have a Cold War and Space Race with. They would also be a few decades behind in computers depending on how restrictive their business, university and social environments are.

>>63908478 (OP)
I would be fucking my 10 concubines in my spaceship as we head to a new habitable planet to colonize.

>>63908953
If the Nazis had won, today there'd be a mind control gun that could stop you personally from having intrusive thoughts about transexuals 80 times a day

>>63908478 (OP)
none. krauts expelled the brightest minds (mostly jewish, all went to the US) leaving krautistan a country of low iq savages and brutes. They couldn't even develop nukes even though they initially had the most jewish nuclear science pioneers (which they lost). The kraut language is the ugliest most retarded most backward cave man language in europe, insanely difficult to speak, ineffective as a communication language, and incompatible with a civilized society.
Hitler and his nazi gang were uneducated street rats, brutish, violent, unrefined and, if you read nazi history, so dumb that it's hard to believe.

>>63911950
>if you read nazi history, so dumb that it's hard to believe

Any recommendations?

>>63911970
Anything really. Their stupidity stands out everywhere. Nazism is an imposed dictatorship of stupidity.

>>63909464
You truly are retarded

>>63909931
Please kys for the good of planet earth.

>>63909960
Plenty of pics.

>>63908478 (OP)
I'm surprised I even need to say this on /k/ of all places, but the only similarity between the B-2 and the Ho 229 was the shape. The shape of the B-2 was arrived at for a totally different reason and their visual similarities are purely coincidental.

Considering the amount of time it took the US to develop stable flying wing control, the Ho 229 would never have been a viable weapon, even if Nazi Germany had survived.

>>63909111
Bodied that pfäggot

>>63909316
How much longer? Flight was only invented less than 2 decades before

>>63908527
The jet engines were just adapted from Italy, and nazi academics were utterly retarded. The nazi nuclear program got stuck because of ideology being more important than scientific facts

>>63909939
Men Behind The Sun?

>>63917169
The problem wasn't ideology, they overstimated how much enriched uranium would be need to make a bomb.

"Heisenberg specifically thought that the amount of Uranium 235 needed at critical mass was about a thousand times more than what would make an atomic bomb explode"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Epsilon

>>63911988
checked, HH brother!

>>63909476
This guy looks like Max Verstappen.

>>63917169
>>63917297
IIRC they also got hung up on heavy water as a moderator because their graphite was really impure and they never thought to try purifying/synthesizing it. That's part of why Allied intelligence spent so much time and effort going after heavy water/heavy water production.

>>63908478 (OP)
>nazi concept plane
>what is the Northrop YB-49?
We were testing out a flying wing in WW2 too, you silly goose

>>63908501
Doritos locos tacos

>>63908561
>During a war, after inheriting a non-socialist German economy, before Hitler had the chance to go through with his full economic plans.
The fuck? You mean the economy where a wheelbarrow full of paper money got you a loaf of bread? Hitler rose to power before the war and his economic reforms before the war so soundly turned the german economy around that it was dubbed “The German Miracle” and Time Magazine made Hitler their 1938 man of the year because of it, dipshit.

>had the germans won WW2
they wouldn't have
>what kind of advancements
nothing much

>>63908507
>>63908561
Anon, the Nazis privatized hard enough to coin the English word "Privatization"... They didn't even move to a war economy until 1944. Even the US started shifting over to a directed economy before even joining the war, not to even mention what FDR's NRA, CCC, and OPC, and other New Deal things. But not Germany, they held on to the consumer economy and competitive production bids—leading to, for instance, the Porsche Tiger fiasco—until they were so desperate they no longer couldn't. But too little, too late.

>>63918135
That's what baffles me. Nazis thought WW2 would be a 2 week special operation all the way till 1945. Just like vatniks today. The axis of evil is always too retarded to put up a good challenge to the forces of good. Why are all evil states so inferior and dumb?

>>63909947
>So you believe people whose entire ideology was based on conquest and eradicating those they deemed inferior would let people freeze to death? Guess this also means you believe [insert outlandish claim no normal person has ever heard of to poison the well]

>>63918135
>Anon, the Nazis privatized hard enough to coin the English word "Privatization"...

If the private companies you sold your state assets to all have their boards of directors stuffed with NSDAP stooges who are all on speed-dial with Hitler and would kill their own mothers with a chainsaw if he told them to do so, they aren't really all that private anymore.

>>63920680
That only really happened with Junkers, and although they had to comply with the requests of the air ministry (like any military aircraft manufacturer), messerschmitt, focke-wulf, heinkel, dornier, and especially blohm und voss did their own thing independently.

>>63920680
>it doesn't count if the corporate big-shots who have long funded the party are also members of the party and use their connections
From advertising to lobbying, from cartels to even commandeering state institutions, all are merely different means of using money and influence to enhance one's competitive position on the market. Just because you exploit government behavior to act like a vulture, doesn't mean you're a sucker or slave. Often quite the contrary. Twice so, if you're smart about it.

>>63908501
what are you posting this from again?

>>63920865
NTA, but that's not really the argument one might imagine it is, should you look into it at all.

>>63908478 (OP)
>>63908527
>>63908723
>>63909947
most nazis were extremely cowardly backstabbers. Very few died with dignity or didn't rat out their comrades for a better deal. Even those who later killed themselves like Goring and Himmler backstabbed Hitler hard and tried to strike a better deal with the Allies in exchange. Keep in mind that the star of the SS and "Hitler's favorite commando" Otto Skorzeny became a Mossad hitman and killed escaped Nazis for the Israeli regime.

Another fun fact: Of the 16 million German men who served in the Wehrmacht and SS in WW2 12 million surrendered and Germany never had a relevant post-occupation resistance movement of any kind when even places like Ethiopia and Albania managed to have one

The only other occupied state with this level of subservience was Japan, but that at least had their deified Emperor tell them to stand down. Hitler meanwhile told the Germans to fight to the last, and they all ignored it and collaborated with their occupiers to the fullest extent possible

>>63908675
>neoliberal toozetranny

>>63908677
Go back tranny

>>63920632
Nafoid moral fag stfu ALL YOU TRANNIES are more retareded then you claim wehraboos to be

>>63912000
No you are tranny

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>>63921634
Absolute meltdown lmao

>>63921634
>>63921628
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>>63921614
Someone's projecting~

>>63918135
>Anon, the Nazis privatized hard enough to coin the English word "Privatization"..
This is a literal lie made up by one (1) single man, Germa Bel, whose bullshit all the no-true-socialism faggots then started spouting.
If the ruling party, an inherently public entity, takes over the economy. It is fundamentally not privatization by any means of the word. The Nazi party had full control over the economy, and not just the economy for that matter.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gleichschaltung
Every single thing in the country was socialized.

To call this privatization is a lie so blatant, it's astounding how anyone could fucking believe in it.

>>63920696
It would have happened to them all, if they stepped out of line like Junkers did. Junkers alone is enough to prove that this was not privatization.

>>63908478 (OP)
Star Trek but not gay

>>63908597
One good enough to enable Hitler to build up for his attempt to conquer himself an empire. Practically all the economic progress of the nazis' reign was them riding the coattails of the reforms the late Weimar government initiated to get out of the Great Depression.

>>63917721
>his economic reforms
You mean those of his predecessors. Hitlers economic reforms? Those are the ones that trippled down on arms buildup and turned the whole economy from recovering into a house of cards that was literally dependent on invading neighbouring coutnries and plundering their resources to stave off total collapse.

>muh miracle
>muh times magazine
Yes, the nazis were pretty good at propaganda and stealing the credit for other peoples work. Nobody is denying that.

>>63918135
LMAO. They were in a de facto war economy LITERALLY BEFORE THE WAR EVEN STARTED. Food rationing in Nazi Germany started in August 1939, and the economy at that point was some nightmarish frankenstein monster of socialism and corporatism that was bent towards military production over anything, and so hungry for resources that it had to be fueled by plunder. That they weren't able to mobilise as well as the soviets or allies until later was an issue of structural weaknesses and administrative incompetence, not one of lacking political will.

>>63921614
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>>63921628
>hurr durr can't argue against the proven truth
>gonna call you a tranny instead
Peak mental degeneracy. How very nazi of you.

>>63920818
>Azazuke.
he made some hot yuri.

>>63908697
Two small tweaks

>>63921674
>>63921647

A country without niggers, jews or faggots

>>63922744
>97
I thought they were around for gw1?

>>63908478 (OP)
about the same because they kept working for americans and soviets

>>63922744
You should use first flight for the B-2 too, i.e. 1989 rather than the introduction date.
>>63924711
You're retarded. Starving and being worked to death by the soviets or just doing random civilian jobs(aside from von Braun) in US are world's apart from what they were doing in Germany. Not that they did a whole lot of non-military research.

>>63909937
>because nazis banned entire fields of physic's and math for "being jewish".

That's not actually true at most they wouldn't care about quantum mechanics because they were philosophically opposed to the idea of inherent uncertainty and thought it was a grift. That's what it really amounts to, and given that jewish intellectuals like SJ Ghoul shat out for decades I can't blame them for assuming almost everything a heeb does has an ulterior political motivation. They are also politically motivated unlike proper cruel and efficient anglos but still better than the jews. Remember the Soviet Union had all types of ideological hang ups, including a need to overcomplicate basic equipment manuals with bullshit language. Yet they stole enough America shit(ironically mostly thanks to jews) and managed to reverse engineer it or at least apply its basic concepts into something semi-functional. There is no reason Nazis couldn't do the same thing. There are some hyper spergs like Teller or Fisher who honestly hated communism to the point of disregarding the interests of commie jews and partly breaking their predisposition towards ethnic nepotism, but he was a rare exception.

>>63922959
no amount of crying will un-socialist the national socialists

>>63908478 (OP)
Nothing. German tech is greatly over exaggerated. You have been playing too much wolfenstein.

>>63924981
>"We might have called ourselves the Liberal Party. We chose to call ourselves the National Socialists. We are not internationalists. Our socialism is national. We demand the fulfillment of the just claims of the productive classes by the state on the basis of race solidarity. To us state and race are one."
>Adolf Hitler
No amount of changing the meanings of words ain't gonna save you libshit. Didn't save him either.

>>63924981
>Communism is not Socialism. Marxism is not Socialism. The Marxians have stolen the term and confused its meaning.
>I shall take Socialism away from the Socialists. Socialism is an ancient Aryan, Germanic institution. Our German ancestors held certain lands in common. They cultivated the idea of the common weal.
>Marxism has no right to disguise itself as socialism. Socialism, unlike Marxism, does not repudiate private property.
>Unlike Marxism, it involves no negation of personality, and unlike Marxism, it is patriotic.
>We might have called ourselves the Liberal Party. We chose to call ourselves the National Socialists. We are not internationalists. Our socialism is national. We demand the fulfillment of the just claims of the productive classes by the state on the basis of race solidarity. To us state and race are one.
>Adolf Hitler
No amount of changing the meanings of words ain't gonna save you libshit. Didn't save him either.