Thread 24645764

salladhor saan edition

ASOIAF wiki: https://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Main_Page
Blog: https://georgerrmartin.com/notablog/
Old blog: https://grrm.livejournal.com/
So Spake Martin (interviews): https://westeros.org/citadel/ssm/
Book search: https://asearchoficeandfire.com/
SSM search: https://cse.google.com/cse?cx=006888510641072775866:vm4n1jrzsdy
General search: http://searcherr.work/
TWOW samples: https://archive.org/details/411440566-the-winds-of-winter-released-chapters

old: >>24635677

Does anyone have a recording of that QnA thing?

What do you guys think of the theory that ASOIAF is set in our world, post-apocalypse? I think there’s no basis for it, but I find it interesting nonetheless and would like to hear an argument in favor of it

Who will complete the novels once GRRM dies soon?

>>24645857
>Middle-Earth is the distant past, Planetos the distant future.

>>24645857
didn’t he say that planetos is larger than earth? that already discredits it. unless that’s just a fan theory that’s become accepted over time.

>>24645857
Shit and boring theory. Planetos is actually a lost world of the Federal Empire of Humanity, previously used by the Federal Empire's Ecological Engineering Corps as a test ground for their experiments. There are at least three spaceships (two of them functional) crashed in differents locations in Essos and Westeros

Imagine if the targs had a breeding program with the summer islanders. Targs get wider hips, juicier asses and bigger cocks...

>>24645857
one of the many, many fan theories that requires ignoring both everything in the books AND word of god to make any fucking sense

>>24645899
>>24645857
There's a retard theory that Redbeard or that one space guy GRRM wrote in another novel crashed into Planetos and that's how it started.

>>24645879
No one hopefully. Only GRRM (and God) write and finish A Song of Ice and Fire.
No one else. Fuck you big time if you think someone can.

>>24645994
>and God
I get what you mean, but the implications are funny. Imagine this actually happens and the first thing you read is "Sunset found her squatting in the grass, groaning..."

>>24646009
Leave it anon, that was only 1 quote. It won’t happen again in the upcoming books (arriving at your local bookstore)

>>24645994
If you stopped sucking George's dick all day he might be able to get some writing done already.

Post some good ASOIAF art, lads. I'll post some that I've found (mostly of locations)

>>24646023
I’m not sucking anyone’s dick, you filthy faggot. Besides grrm cock getting sucked ain’t the problem. It’s him eating way too many fastfood and working on those wildcards that he isn’t getting any work done!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCiQWbjPtYI&t=7763s

i physically cringed

>>24646042
>Comments turned off
KWAB
Timestamp me where he gets told properly that he's going to die soon I'm not watching 2 hours of this slop.

>>24646049
2:09:20

>>24646042
genuinely made me feel bad for every single time i've shit on this fat nerd

>>24646042
why would anyone want to see ASOIAF be "completed" by another writer with different prose and thoughts and cadence than GRRM? just read fan-fiction at this point

>>24646051
Thank you my man.
I like how the troon still kept that "Tumblr style" of speaking when asking the question. Honestly not as bad as I thought it would be. George really should have just replied with "I'll finish it don't worry thanks for the question I get that a lot." But he didn't.

>>24645764 (OP)
>salladhor saan edition

>>24646061
It's less about wanting and more about being realistic.
Even if Winds is finished the story won't be, George let scope creep kill him from the inside, and unless you stop reading at AFFC you will never get an ending to the books unless you view the show ending as close to what he would have done in the outline.

>>24646042
lol'd at comparing Miura to GURM
Miura was in his 50s and died from an ailment his doctor couldn't have forseen. Even with his snailish pace (which picked up towards the end) he would've been able to comfortably finish berserk with just an average lifespan. George finishing Dream is a fantasy even for winds optimists.

>>24646068
I'm no GRRM defender (when it comes to his abysmal writing pace) but he's under literally 0 obligation to let some upjumped trooner talk shit to his face.
It must be really insulting to a writer (or really any kind of artist) to have someone say you should just hand over your work, like it's some brick wall that's halfway built and can be finished by anyone with half a brain.

>>24646084
In that case George should have spat back "Shut up you dirty fucking nigger tranny, I'll outlive you at the rate your ilk kill themselves, and when you hang yourself I'll finally release Winds and Dream Of Spring together, fuck off."
But he didn't have the balls to so womp womp, just a sad "No more questions please" reply. In fact he didn't even fully reply Sanderson had to say "God I ain't gonna finish it."

>>24646042
I think this is the first genuine example of female autism I’ve ever witnessed. After being a denier all my life.

>>24646053
Pussy Faggot

>here’s your Visenya Targaryen bro
https://youtube.com/shorts/KdnS-0DYRJg?si=t_zEaV2TMqDqY2UX

>>24646074
Miura would never be able to finish Berserk and neither would Togashi do the same with Hunter x Hunter, you delusional ape.

3 more years max if no THE WINDS OF WINTER it genuienly will never be more over. and yes i am a massive optimistic fag. this is of course if he doesn't croak by then.
and i know there won't be A DREAM OF SPRING ever so shut up about it.

>>24646064
>>24646104
>>24646122
>>24646129
>not a single farm in sight

What do they eat?

>>24646127
>55 years old
>25-20% of the story left
Yep, impossible. No chance, nada.

>>24646118
Prettiest Rhoynar

>>24646053
fuck this fatass lmao

>>24646106
is it a tranny or a womyn?

>>24646174
>55 years old
grim

>>24646365
Yeah, especially the fact it wasn't something he could've forseen.
Stay healthy, anon.

>>24646106
>>24646344
Confirmed tranny

>>24646118
this person may actually be insane

>>24646106
When women are autistic, their autism is more powerful than men's.

>>24646423
It’s genetically female though, even though she claims to be intersex in her youtube bio.

What's the best depiction of Harrenhal you've seen?

Fatman will die this week

>>24646549
last one

>>24646042
Cringe as that was, I don't want to hear about how we don't deserve the books anymore or how we were all too mean to George when that is mostly BS. Yeah, that was a bad and idiotic thing to do, but I just can't feel too sorry for George after everything he is done, and cultivating this insanity is largely his fault. He isn't even trying to finish Winds at this point. I am just going to read actually worthwhile authors, and stop tuning in to ASOIAF threads and news.

>>24646499
Don’t say such thing, you Satan turd.

>>24646499
Dubs make it true.

>>24646630
Fuck off, demon.

I like the depictions of a more jungle-like Valyria

>>24646631
It was merely a jest.

trips and TWOW comes in 2026 and ADOS in 2028

dubs and Winds never releases

Dubs and Winds releases in 2030
Trips and Winds never releases
Quads and Winds releases posthumusly after George dies and Sanderson finishes it... in 2025

>>24646669
Almost quads lol

>>24646649
>>24646657
>>24646669
Grim.

If Winds never come to see the light of day, the best we could hope is that George's work fall into public domain after his wife dies and becomes something of a Sherlock Holmes/Arthurian cycle of modern fantasy, free for anyone to adapt to other media or write new stories off.

>>24646696
I think if George kicked the bucket then the 75%+ of Winds that's finishes would just be relegated to another author and treated as canon by basically everybody, especially if the writer is able to emulate GRRM's style well. But I doubt Dream would ever be accepted.

>>24646696
cope, I am sure he told his family to burn all the notes when he dies, he hates his fans

>>24646705
The publisher will tell George's wife that unless she hands over the manuscripts and allows the publisher to get some other author to finish it, they will come after the estate for damages on George never finishing the books in contravention of his contract. She will give in and that will be the settlement.

>>24646711
I would love for that to happen but I doubt that's in his contract. I remind you that he signed it years ago before it was apparent he will die and not finish his books

>>24646699
>>24646705
>>24646711
You are missing the big picture. Yes, why should anyone accept one designated writer's ending over anyone else's if it's not George's? Would the publisher try to shove it down the audience's throat or not? Doesn't matter. What matters is that since A Dream of Spring(by George himself) is impossible, the best he could hope for, following his own personal philosophy, is his story and world be used by new, numerous authors in the decades and centuries to come and NONE of these new adaptations will be canon in the same way there's no canon for King Arthur's legends in traditional sense.

>>24646499
If he does that tranny will be one of the most vindicated people in history.

>>24646499
I actually believe he will live 5 more years but he will not finish winds of winter

>>24646745
Damn, so that's the way GURM transcends Tolkien and gets his work immortalized in legend like the myths of our forefathers' forefathers. Truly genius.

He just needs to give his notes to another author, then after he dies the author can finish ASOIAF and then we can run them through AI to emulate GRRMs writing style.

>>24646795
there are no notes, just drawings of Jon Snow and Tyrion fucking Dany when Bran watches from his cuck chair. It's apparent if you actually reread the series there was never any plan. That's why Varys and Illyrio conversation makes no fucking sense with addition of Young Griff, many such cases.

>>24646808
I am sure you are right.
I am about to reread them now so I can post more accurately.

What is your least favorite part of the books?
For me it's definitely Lady Stoneheart. I wish Martin didn't add her to the story

>>24646631
What’s up with all the onions boy Zionist anti fascist cucks in these threads

>>24646745
Confirmed winds last book and dream will be blank for everyone to fill in their own Bran time travel adventure making all stories “true”. Genius

>>24646813
Sansa chapters always annoy me.

>>24646826
>>24646860
Wrong person
The Sansa chapters always annoyed me.

>>24646826
>wish Martin didn't add her to the story
How come?

>>24646826
Dany subplot, Faegon subplot, Dorne subplot, bran, Sansa and braavos chapters

>written to be generic antagonists
>become the most interesting characters in the series, far surpassing the starks

Now that the dust has settled, was Dinklage right?

>>24646826
I don't hate any part of the story. Even the world building and filter parts are still excellently written.

Though, if I could have my way, I'd probably get rid of one of the Ironborn POVs and trim down the Dorne plot a lot, especially Quentyn.

>>24646895
Hard to decide on whether this or his rant about dwarf actors being used to play dwarf character is the dumbest thing this retard has said.

>>24646870
It just felt off, like it doesn't belong to the universe. In general i like how Martin includes magic in the books, so it reminds a mystery, doesn't always work, or is just unexplainable.and strange like the guy in Quarth making a ladder out of fire and climbing it. But Stoneheart just doesn't fit for me
>>24646900
Ironborn chapters are the best ror me especially victarion

>>24646900
>trim down the Dorne plot a lot, especially Quentyn
This

>>24646009
Why does that passage filter so many people? It's an appropriate thematic moment for a woman who was a queen of a powerful city she lost control of and then gets pulled away from it all. The diarrhea in the dothraki sea symbolises her being flushed of all the poison of Meereen - recall what happened with Strong Belwas. She'll return as a more vengeful warrior queen and not someone who tries to rule well and manage the populace anymore.

>>24646158
Golden tooth, dreadfort and norvos all show appropriate pasture land, and the latter two show rivers which presumably have fish in them.

>>24646895
Has he ever said something that didn't make him sound like a total cunt?

I truly cannot believe there are people who believe young griff is legit.
Literally everyone on the Shy Maid, including Tyrion, is using a fake a name and pretending to be someone else. Like 2/3rds of the dudes in the Golden Company are blatantly, obviously using phoney names and pretending to be members of famously extinct houses like Coles, Strongs, Mudds and Lothstons.
Varys’ whole shtick from the jump is being the biggest bullshit artist on the planet
Who exactly he could be is another story but George could not be screaming at the reader harder that the official story is a tall tale.

Walk with me, my sweet summer child, and hear the tale of fat pink masts jutting into sopping wet myrish swamps and black nipples brushing against silk until her cunt became the world while in the privy the princess guzzled arbor gold and shat but the more she drank the more she shat until she was shitting brown water and around her the planks of the ship groaned like a fat man taking a shit while she cursed the gods and nuncle smiled as he broke his fast on black bread, bacon burned black, and mulled wine while capon-grease dribbled down his chin and onto the boiled leather of his jerkin for she was wet with love and did she not know words are wind and dark wings bring dark words and a lannister always pays her debts and mayhaps this is nothing but a mummers farce and useless as nipples on a breastplate and the princess has been fucking lancel and moonboy for all nuncle knows and he is the blood of the dragon for the night is dark and full of terrors but where do whores go and jon snow knows nothing and near enough makes no matter so nuncle smiled and dipped the heel of his bread into clam chowder and prayed for half a hundred more heh har HODOR

Your Grace, there are has come to light a revelation about one your King's Guard. Ser Loyal-as-fuck has been found to have been secretly sending funds to a mother and her children. Our findings show he had married this woman years before becoming a white knight in secret. He has not seen her in years, but he still regularly sends her coin. Your thoughts?

Also, a sickness has developed in the bogs of the Neck. Apparently it on Crannogmen it's no more than a mild flu, but on others, it can be lethal. The sickness has apparently already reached White Harbor. How shall we handle this?

And finally, as you know, we have spies all over Westeros, even some on the Wall. Well, as it happens, our informer on the wall was elected the Lord Commander. He writes to us saying he's still our man, but there are those on the Small Council who now question his loyalty. What say you?

>>24646773
gurm was immortalized by the dumpster fire of season 8 GOT

I get AI to write ASOIAF erotica for me and instruct it to provide lush, Martinesque descriptions of any food that appears in a scene

>>24646964
ahh...cocks, cunts, and capons: the trifecta of gurm

Faegon and the golden company are the army of the dead combined with the grey company from lotr and will team up with Jon Aragorn to take down sauron dany and her dothraki orcs in the second dance of the dragons

>>24646901
Still can't believe he thought taking jobs away from other dwarf actors was a good thing. Made me think less of him forsure

>>24646938
Never. He's an angry elf.

>>24645879
I will.

>>24646423
Female to male tranny though

>>24646630
Dubs aren't enough. Rolling for trips.

Will this be canon?

>>24647121
These two had like 2 interactions in the books right, I know Sansa remembers Jon and the two are probably close, but at this point the two are so distant George blatantly just gave up on the idea didn't he?

>>24646826
The hodgepodge of Orientalist tropes known as "Essos"

>>24647156
the whole idea is predicated on the fact that they are not close and wouldn't view each other as siblings like jon would arya

>>24646826
Agreed. People project what they want into stoneheart when the character hasnt done shit but hang a couple freys.

>>24646084
had gurm just come out and said "I'm sorry to all my fans, but I've completely lost all interest in finishing the SONG OF ICE AND FIRE series. I hope you can understand, I would rather write something out of heart than pure obligation" most fans would have been fine. sure there would still be some crazies but that's normal. i sure as hell know that i would not be on his ass about it. but he hasn't said anything like it in fact he constantly doubles down and says he's working on it which everyone knows is a blatant lie. he is a coward and cowards don't deserve sympathy. why should i be understanding and accepting of him if he doesn't trust us with the truth and tries to turn it around and pose himself as some victim when the fans literally have done nothing to him but except for him to finish something he claims to have been working on for more than a decade..
fuck gurm and fuck all of you who defend this behaviour, you are retarded and a part of the problem

>>24646926
Because its funny

>>24646826
Qyburn and Robert Strong, the Dr. Frankenstein ripoff
It feels like a forced attempt to add modern horror elements to a high fantasy world
I WOULD like to see Roose Bolton become Dracula though

Apparently he's going to another meet-up on Saturday?

>>24646079
“This way, little ship.”

>>24646842
What are you talking about, you dumb schizophrenic Nazi Islamist ape cunt.

>>24647096
For you.

>>24647289
I hope another autistic tranny btfo him again

>>24647318
Haha, you pro-tranny. Tranny luving barren golem.

>>24646084
>It must be really insulting to a writer (or really any kind of artist) to have someone say you should just hand over your work
Bro he could just finish the books if he didn't want the heat

>>24646745
>not a single farm in sight

What do they eat?

>>24646946
>That will be all, Grand Maester.

Wow…just….WOW…HAVE YOU NO HEART???!! HAVE YOU NO COMMON DECENCY??? HES JUST A SWEET OLD MAN CANT YOU SEE HE OWES YOU NOTHING???? CANT YOU JUST LET THE MAN LIVE??? THE AUDICITY TO COMMENT ON HIS MORTALITY LIKE THAT???? WHERES THE RESPECT. WHERES THE HUMANITY?? THEYRE JUST BOOKS GODDAMMIT YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO HARASS GEORGE LIKE THAT, HES NOT YOUR BITCH!!! LET ME GET THIS THROUGH YOUR THICK SKULL YOU CRETIN. YOU. ARE. NOT. ENTITLED. TO. SHIT!!!! IF I WAS GEORGE ID SAY TO HELL WITH THE BOOKS IF THIS IS THE THANKS I GET. I HOPE HE NEVER FINISHES JUST SO YOU CHRONICALLY ONLINE ASSHOLES DONT GET YOUR WAY!!! IM ABSOLUTELY LIVID AT THE BEHAVIOR OF THIS TOXIC FANDOM IM LITERALLY WEEPING RIGHT NOW! MY HEART IS SHATTERING INTO A THOUSAND PEICES FOR POOR GEORGE, I CANT FUCKING TAKE THIS SHIT ANYMORE!!!!! LEAVE GEORGE ALONE YOU FUCKING CHUDS!!!!!!

>>24647166
GRRM’s shameless early 20th century S&S orientalism is based

one more

George you fat fuck just release what you have at the very least man come on. At this point he deserves having mentally ill trannys telling him he is about to kick the bucket.
THIS IS THE FATE YOU CHOSE GEORGE

>>24646826
In terms of the part I wish was most different, the Quentyn plotline just feels depressing and cynical in a way GRRM usually isn't.

In terms of something that makes sense and is well written but which I dislike reading, Theon's ACOK chapters are quite difficult.

In terms of something I think is poorly written, I think Bran's chapters overall are pretty meh and if the plan is eventually for him to become high king like in the show ending then that's rough because his chapters can be mega boring

>>24646888
You're a retard if you think they were written to be generic antagonists at any point. Tyrion is arguably the protagonist of the second book

>>24646939
Illyrio's second wife was Valyrian YG is almost certainly his and her son

>>24646900
One thing that stood out to me as the series went longer is that whereas being a POV character used to be a big deal we started getting more minor POV arcs like Areo and Arys. And we know he only made Melisandre a POV so people would stop misinterpreting her

>>24647373
Uber-Eat, hehe.

>>24647536
I’m inclined to believe Daemon IV had children that Maelys the Monstrous sold into slavery and that Varys and Serra are somehow related through this line. But the specifics of YG’s parentage are speculative, what’s beyond all doubt is he’s definitely not Rhaegar and Ella’s son.

>>24647389
Kek, this is exactly what the redditors are saying

Who is the character that GRRM killed off but needed to finish the story?
Any theories? I cannot imagine one character being so critical

>>24647603
Aemon
He would've been the bridge between Jon and Dany, and a lore dump character.

so it was this troon who told grrm he'd die and uploaded the video and disabled comments

>>24647603
I read somewhere he regretted killing aemon and kevan not sure why tho

For me it was Jon Snow. I doubt we will get POV chapters from him when he gets ressurected as fire zombie because from Berric we know they kinda lose humanity

>>24647624
Based

>>24647614
>>24647646
George really fell onto his own sword of this is the case haha.

>>24646042
And here I thought the cringe kino genre was dead.

>>24647389
Insane that this is what people are saying unironically. This nigga George has been reaping the benefits of his work, becoming richer and fatter yet he still strings his fans along for 14 years, giving us crumbs, telling us how motivated he was on a particular day. Then he announces that he's working on several side-projects nobody gives a shit about. I think majority of people wouldn't give him such a hard time if he just came out and said he's not finishing asoiaf. His legacy is fucked either way but I guess he doesn't care as long as he gets to be alive when there'a still hope left.

>>24646042
As we approach death, we start being followed around by death itself. Everyone nearing his end can feel her presence.

Some feel it in a black cat, watching intently from across the street. Some may notice it's cold presence in the face of a taxi driver, a busy nod from a cinema usher, or a bank teller lazily saying "sorry sir, we're closing now" on a chilly Friday evening. It brushes past you and you feel incapable of interrogating it even for a moment, forced to merely acknowledge her undeniable presence that you tried to push to the back of your head since you'd prefer to think about literally anything else.

And for some it comes in the shape of a fat, clinically mentally ill autistic transgender woman with greasy black hair and an insufferable voice, yelling "George, you are not going to be around for much longer" in front of a crowd of your followers, friends and colleagues. Like she finds your clumsy, fat-bellied efforts to escape her endearingly cute, and answers with an equally peculiar gesture of recognition.

>>24646895
Instead the pretty brown people rode off into the sunset. What a hack

>>24647708
It's almost as if he was a character in his own story. Reminds me of Quentyn, so much effort put into something only to be remembered for a shitty tv show, being fat and not finishing his story. At least he will die a millionaire but legacy will forever be tainted by being lazy. It's funny to me because the entire situation could be avoided. 12 years ago he could just say that he needs 4 more books and fans would love it, while also giving himself more space to wrap up all the storylines, instead he choose to be a total autist and stick to his 7 books plan (which was 3 books plan initally anyway) and now he won't even finish 1 book. What a joke

Also i think he should just release whatever chapters he has ready, assuming he actually finished but i wouldn't be surprised if what's left of Winds is nothing since he probably rewrote it many times. I could settle for ignoring half of POVs and just telling the story from perspective of Tyron, Dany, Sam and Davos, that way we would get Essos, South and North. Would be cool to get Victarion too he is my favorite character from all the books

>>24647696
>>24647738
Yeah, fuck George. He isn't entitled to respect or anything for stringing us along for 14 years. I am glad the tranny publicly shamed him

>>24646699
>75%
cope of the highest order

>>24647454
I know it's supposed to be canon that they fought on horseback but it's so much cooler if they fought on foot

>>24647742
He's not going to do that because

1. If you put something out you're locked in. He needs to be able to rewrite his previous stuff.

2. He already released a half book sort of with Feast, which is basically happening at almost the same time as ADWD but covering the less important POVs

And people didn't like that

>>24645764 (OP)
Why is there not only a general about this worthless fat cunt, but two at once and apparently there have been 84 of them? Are you people so fucking retarded you actually read this fucking bilge? Was watching your stupid fucking TV show not enough?

At least you know how your garbage shit-wipe is going to end, though they'll have to wait till the obese pig scarfs his last discounted birthday cake before they get the slightly less obese pig Sanderson to finish it for him.

If you are able to glance at this fucking swill without wincing, you are and always will be a mouth-breathing, pant-shitting, window-licking retard of the first order.

Fucking morons.

>>24645994
The least of the flies that would be born from a Pajeet shitting over the side of a boat onto a rotting corpse as it floats past on the Ganges before getting stuck in a pile of raw sewage would write something better than this garbage if it landed on a piece of paper and wiped it's arse.
It's so bad even one of you fucking chimps could probably do it.

>>24647831
1/3 time wasting questions
1/3 bullshit
1/3 bad fan theories
1/3 debating when gurm will die
1/3 pink masts

I love it here (sorry, I'm bad with numbers like gurm and I can't go back, I write these on my typewriter).

>>24647831
>apparently there have been 84 of them?
And apparently you just posted in one of them.

Welcome home.

>>24647496
>>24647708
Ask not for whom the tranny troll tolls

>>24647869
They are very familiar with death. It doesn't bother them that much, or rather they are desensitized like medieval peasants were.

Does GRRM change plotlines when fans guess them?

>>24646042
Damn wish I could understand what George said at the end. I was going to listen to the whole panel but the quality is horrible. I like how Sanderson is flat out "Not me" and he has to repeat it a million times.

Wish someone less autistic said this to George, these freaks still make my blood boil even if they're doing something based (on accident)

>>24647938
Hopefully it becomes like the green dildos at WNBA games, and everyone starts harassing George.

>>24646895
Every once in a while, you get a reminder that most actors are sub-100 IQ retards.

What other edgy adult fantasy books are there that are similar to ASOIAF?

>>24646895
The black pill is that he was right in regards to normies. They would have looked past every single flaw of S8 if Jon and Dany married in the end and ruled happily every after. That was their true problem with it.

Chuds had issues with Arya killing the Night King and Jon not being King.

Book readers know that the whole show was shit since Season 5.

Normies were only upset that Jon and Dany didn't win in the end together.

>>24647998
This, I stopped watching after episode 3 of season 5. They cut too much shit.

>>24647998
Nah mate. Went to watch parties with plenty of normies it was 100% Bran. Anyone else was said multiple times. The chair being burned too was gay. When all the promos are “who will win” and the answer is no one but kinda this guy we did nothing with who was the worst character for four seasons. Lots of people wanted a Lannister victory too.

>>24648069
True black pill, normies liked the ending because they are too stupid to know why it was bad.

>>24647998
You’re mostly right but you’re giving that dipshit midget way too much credit because that’s not what he meant in his inane comment.

>>24647715
>the pretty brown people road off into the sunset onto an island where the butterflies will kill them

ftfy

Can't wait for Glidus and Alt Schwift to rank every ASOIAF sigil

>>24648097
still waiting for Glidus and Alt Schwift to rank every Frey.

>>24648097
tell me about House Banefort, why do they wear the hood?

Live by the tranny, be told you will die by the tranny

>>24646042
MEMENTO MORI

>>24647998
People seem to memory hole normalfags loving arya killing the night king.

>>24647646
>>24647603
here's the link to the video where that story comes from, sorry for the reddit link.

https://www.reddit.com/r/asoiaf/comments/8rumol/spoiler_main_diana_gabaldon_author_of_outlander/

I don't think it's Kevan because I don't think there's nothing Kevan can do/know that Genna Lannister cannot be invented into knowing or doing. So Aemon is the most likely.

But if it is Aemon, maybe he could just retcon the Cinnamon Wind into having a Weirwood hull or bed and Aemon could talk to Jon through the weirwood net.

>>24647373
they order from dornedash

>>24648097
Wait House Butterwell are extinct?

>>24647379
heh just like her small council meetings in Feast

>>24648159
KEK

>>24647753
I like to think they started on horseback then fought on foot

>>24648088
Probably am giving him too much credit, lol.

>>24646745
So Gurm has actually been playing 5D Chess this whole time? I kneel.

>>24647624
what is it with persian women and being extremely autistic? there was also the one that shot up youtube HQ

>>24647624
What is it with browns and their targ obsessions

>>24647831
>Why is there not only a general about this worthless fat cunt, but two at once and apparently there have been 84 of them? Are you people so fucking retarded you actually read this fucking bilge? Was watching your stupid fucking TV show not enough?
>At least you know how your garbage shit-wipe is going to end, though they'll have to wait till the obese pig scarfs his last discounted birthday cake before they get the slightly less obese pig Sanderson to finish it for him.
>If you are able to glance at this fucking swill without wincing, you are and always will be a mouth-breathing, pant-shitting, window-licking retard of the first order.
>Fucking morons.

>>24647379
As you say, Your Highness.......stupid slut

Would Margaery sleep with a dothraki or three

>>24647998
>>24648068
AFFC and ADWD are dogshit books.

Which scenario would you prefer?
>Winds takes another 7 full years. George kicks the bucket shortly after release
OR
>Winds takes 14 more years. George is, by oure chance, a supercenterian and finishes Dream after another 20 years at age 110

>>24649062
I don't really care about a dream of spring the only plots I care about are likely to be finished in Winds.

>>24649075
You probably think that in part because Dance ends on multiple cliffhangers, which Winds could just as well also end on.

>>24649086
ADWD is one of the most poorly edited books I've read.

>>24649105
It's half a book. George has said Dany's chapters were originally meant to contrast Cersei's, but then the book had to be split.
If Winds ever releases I hope someone (even George himself honestly) releases a proper ADWD read order with every intended chapter.
Even then the name makes fuckall sense.

>>24649062
George isn't finishing Dream so you might as well just say let him take as long as he wants with Winds if it gets it published.

>>24646745
>>24646857
I had the dream about this exact thing when Deathly Hallows were coming out. I saw the book on my teachers desk and inevitably dreamt about it except it was only half-finished and the author's notes suggested i should make up my own ending.

>>24649026
Yet the show was all the shittier for not following them.

what's the tax policy of westeros anyway?

>>24649126
I wouldn't want to be D&D for sure, it's a shit situation where you have 3 concise, purposeful books then two books that bloat the story 10x and basically still be at the same plot points from 25 years ago.

It's a rock and hard place, if the fat man couldn't do it for decades; I'm not surprised they couldn't.

Cersei would never fuck a dothraki

>>24649112
There is a proper read order online, but I think it's only chronological

>>24649132
Storm was very dense, it got 2 seasons while aGoT and CoK got one each.
I feel like they could've done ADWD+AFFC best ofs as a season as to avoid the constant meandering.
But D&D's problems go beyond not having material, so it'd still shit the bed.

Have some Yi-Ti

>>24649140
Like what?
>Brienne looking for a character we know ain't anywhere near her
>Sansa doing nothing
>The extremely overcomplicated northern plot (Weddings, Resurrections, overcomplicated rescue plan)
>Stannis not doing shit for 2000 pages
>The terribly paced Dorne Queenmaker/Frog Virgin Retard plot
>Tyrion being asking about whores and dicking around
>Dany being a horny retard and shitting herself
>Cersei being mad and losing everything waaaaay too quickly
>Jaime moping about and capturing one fucking castle (Yes I love his chapters but still)
It sounds like alot, but it's hilarious how little actually fucking happens. Ontop of that George basically completely ignores the Others plotline.

It's been so long since ADWD that I've started reading fanfiction. What depths. Have cooled on Jon significanlty, and have come to the conclusion that Cersei is sympathetic and that a Ned/Cersei pairing is compelling. Thank you George. Anyway, recomend Ned Cersei fanficton please thank you.

Any reason why women fucking hate Bobby B? Is it because he wanted to kill Dany?

>>24649176
Because he backhanded Cersei once (she deserved it) and supposedly raped Cersei (she also deserved it).

Actually, now that I think about it. Is it canonical Bobby B raped her or was it just that she felt "le pressured"?

>>24649154
I think George has all the big battles already written, if not at the time of ADWD's release then by the time the show caught up to it. Yeah, the meandering plots suck, but is it better than Jaime going to Dorne to kidnap Myrcella back? I'd say so. If season 5 ended on these massive three battles then people would love it.
You could reduce Brienne to just the good scenes since you're not really obligated to adapt whole ass chapters.Cersei, Aegon and Connington would carry it HARD.

>>24649176
Give people too much time with a book, skew the fanbase to the mentally ill over-analyzers and this is what you get.
Robert gets potrayed by these people like he's Tywin or Randyll, when in reality his worst sin is extravagant spending.
>He's mean to Cersei
He's mean to a total bitch who cucks him constantly? Someone who craves power to then be so incompetent as to drive the kingdom into chaos as soon as she gets it?
Meanwhile they'll make excuses for her. Since apparantely having a husband who fucks whores, even though she only ever wanted Jaime, is somehow something more than an affront to her fucked up pride.
The same people will be downright genocidal about the ironborn then act like wildlings are somehow any better.

>>24649180
Has he ever even had proper sex with her? She says she gave him a wank after having him be too drunk to remember anything. Alternatively the time he said Lyanna's name while fucking her, but you've got to be nuts to think you can revoke consent midway through (and she didn't even push him off for it or anything)

>>24649154
You put it like this and it really is a wonder how Gurm thought AFFC/ADWD as a whole was a good idea. I don't mind slower pacing but stuff actually has to pay off, especially a series with such a heavy emphasis on plot.

Dany's boring nothingburger "plot" in Meereen could've been super condensed
You could cut out Quentyn's shitty quest completely. Brienne povs, while good, really get hindered by the futility of her quest. Tyrion's travelogue could've just skipped all the fucking bullshit (imagine him taking two or three chapters at most to reach Meereen).

I really don't get it. At most just give us a new pov for each important house but wtf

>>24649190
I think the thing they cite as rape is drunk Bobby B rolling over on top of her and grunting a few times while she was grossed out by him. But I can't remember. Either way, yes. Cersei is a complete cunt and is way less sympathetic then Bobby.

>>24648779
This is a Pakistani.

>>24649192
One thing I think it works well with is how it makes Cersei's downfall seem so rapid. Like in the time it took Brienne to waddle from one riverland village to another, Cersei got herself arrested, lost her fleet and had Varys shrink her gowns.

Northerners cry out for the faith of the seven. What is a red tree to a cold, tired, worn peasant? Nothing. The mother will wipe away the tears from their cheeks. If Jon Arryn had given Ned the faith he could've been Constantine.

>>24649196
Imagine reading through this series and getting hung up on 'marital rape'. Which she didn't even verbally or physically resist.
>Every day around the world, men, women, and children are murdered by the score. Who gives a dusty fuck about Robert screwing Cersei when she's not in the mood?

>>24649176
Something like 46% of readers of aosiaf are women, that's alot of retards who bitch about inane shit like a husband fucking his wife in a medieval era.
>>24649182
>I think George has all the big battles already written
I don't believe he's written shit. The fact in the editing process that George pushed for all of the meandering chapters to be kept in and somehow all of the endings we put off. It's nonsensical, and the fact that the sampled chapters of TWOW are basically the same winding travelogues meaning the writing is on the wall IMO.
>but is it better than Jaime going to Dorne to kidnap Myrcella back?
I think all of it sucks and the reason they sent Jaime off to Dorne was because of how little the character does and the fact that the actors are still being paid no matter what.
>You could reduce Brienne to just the good scenes since you're not really obligated to adapt whole ass chapters.
The issue is they decided very early on to cut Lady Stoneheart, that's why they made up the Talisa character instead for Robb. So they could kill all three characters off and cut off the meandering plots lines. To me it makes sense because Lady Stoneheart isn't in the end game, and basically a non character because how underdeveloped she is.
>Cersei, Aegon and Connington would carry it HARD.
Add a whole extra cast of characters, and again we know they're fucked. All of this points to how badly plotted out the entire series is on Georges end.

Robert should have been a prize fighter, sleeping in taverns and fighting men for beer. Not suited to being king, not fit to be Cersei's husband (or anyones really). Not shocking that a whipped dog will grow vicous, bite back.

>>24649182
>If season 5 ended on these massive three battles then people would love it.
Redditors and bookfags alike forget, but the show was soaring, season 5 had incredible ratings and views, same with 6 and 7. It only took a nose dive at 8 and that was only on ratings.

Are people unironically defending the retard moments in the show right now?

>>24649251
Why are the the letters C and Y highlighted in red?

>>24649211
>Something like 46% of readers of aosiaf are women
Nah, it's the majority that are women actually.

>>24649176
romantasy readers who have overdosed on ACOTAR and its ripoffs and think that Robert should have just allowed Rhaegar to kill him, and his and Lyanna's entire families because they would like to be kidnapped and raped by a prince and are annoyed that that didn't keep happening indefinitely

>>24645857
I'm tired of this trope, hope it's not like that

>>24649176
Just women being women. They hate to see a chud on top. What gets me are the faggy beta males who shit talk Bobby. Like just cut your cock off at that point

>>24649260
>based woman made a great Jaimsa fic
Huh, they're good for something.

>>24649251
>Bookfags be like
>aegon really gonna do something
>YOU'LL SEE

>>24646151
not only will TWoW not be released in 3 years, GRRM won't allow anyone to finish the last 2 books in his stead. It'll be an unifished series, one last FU to his fans.

>>24649457
Look George is lazy I’m with you there but he wasn’t in charge of the show and on that front the buck stopped with D&D. The captain of the ship takes the blame. If a book series doesn’t get finished, I blame the author. If a show goes to shit, I blame the showrunners. Simple as.

>>24649639
He stopped working with the show.... Because that would require him to write. Bookfags complaining that the showrunners had to cut down on shitloads of meandering plot lines is hilarious to me.

George is the biggest failure here and should GEET waaaaaay more blame than D&D. George had 25 years to finish his series. They didn't.

The fact of the matter is that George is the JJ Abrams of fantasy. Mystery is all he has to hook readers, and all he relies on are unanswered questions. Even in history books to flesh out the past all he can do is throw more mystery boxes in the mystery holes so that everyone is too busy trying to figure them out to realize that it's all bullshit that can never be good if it's all answered. Is that fun? Of course it is, it's the best fun you can have just making shit up and then shooting the shit about what's more likely. Is it good? No, it's a symptom of the most normie bullshit ever "oh it's vague and 'complex' so it's good" when in reality there is no possible answer he had when writing these questions that all fits together, makes sense, and is satisfying. The vitriol he's getting comes from him lying constantly about the release, and also from his inability to just admit he never planned shit, and that all these people sucking off his forethought and genius are clowns who sat around making the story for him and pretending he was some omniscient king of fantasy for it.

At the end of the day that retard who called him out did nothing wrong, and what you see from the reactions are people just too scared that he'll pull the rug like some vengeful God and never give them the satisfaction they crave, never realizing this fat pedophile fuck never had any intentions of actually finishing his series. She/he or whatever directly called the emperor out for having no clothes, revealing that if he knows he isn't finishing the books, isn't trying, and isn't even bothering to find a successor, then he's just eating off his fans desperation for the complete story they were promised, and has no right to be running off to cons every week, working on banal series with shit worldbuilding and mass normie appeal for public gratification, and doing anything other than fulfilling the promise he made when he sold his work for money while pretending it would be finished. If you really think about it, all the things that interest people the most about this story are the ones that can potentially usurp his nihilistic(he can claim the opposite as much as he likes, that isn't true) defeatist worldview where nothing good ever happens, and if it does it's shat on 20 pages later by someone no one likes. Everyone wants to see Jon, Brienne, Tyrion, and Daenerys win, they're not interested in his pointless tragedies and message-less atrocities. He's stuck in the realization that his only successful work is the one he created by the seat of his pants, without forethought, and without much care, and that all anyone cares about is him overturning it. He will never finish the books because deep down he knows he can't give the endings everyone wants to see, that he never had a single answer for all his mystery boxes, and that if he dies without ever finishing it, it will cause people to wake up and realize the fat fuck emperor never had any clothes, but a very pretty smile.

>>24649453
Sansa would never fuck a decrepit old man like Jaime.

>>24646074
Miura was also being worked to death, and had to draw and visualize everything he wrote. Akira Toriyama was basically killed by drawing fucking DRAGONBALL which isn't a plot heavy series, and the art was far less technical, while that guy had to spend hours everyday in a Japanese work culture drawing some of the most detailed panels in human history. Togashi also shows this, whatever you say about his writing and art, the motherfucker has chronic illnesses thanks to the horror that is manga production, and he's still getting up and regularly continuing his story, even if it takes him years, and a lack of leeway that lets him write the lore for a whole entire fucking video game while ignoring HxH. Look at all of these guys, apart from Toriyama, which of them had the time, energy, and even freedom to actually get fat let alone paste their name onto a million different products while writing their main series? In my opinion you can't even compare GRRM to Kishimoto, because while westerners suck off his "gardening" style of writing, nearly all of those Japanese authors/artists had to do exactly that with weekly series, all the while only having become famous in the middle of that weekly series unexpectedly, and having to actually draw the whole fucking world they were describing. Not a single one of those people had the time or energy to even raise their children right, yet this childless, lazy man gets away with years of hiding behind a curtain, never revealing his progress, and able to change whatever he likes on a whim with decades of foresight. It's like comparing a starving coal miner to a coal investor.

How tall is Marwyn? How tall is Moqorro? Can glamors make you seem taller? What if they really are the same person...

>>24649702
Why should he get more blame for the show nosediving when he wasn’t in charge of it? Like you said, D&D had made changes to the story so it was pretty much their own at a certain point. And if they were having trouble they could’ve brought in some experienced screen writers but instead they brought in coffee fetchers like Bryan Cogman. I’m not gonna hold George responsible for D&Ds poor decision making and I’m not gonna hold D&D responsible for George not finishing the books. Simple as.

Gods and dogs alike delight to piss on me.

>>24649756
>"Dywen now, he says we need to learn to ride dead horses, like the Others do. He claims it would save on feed. How much could a dead horse eat?" Edd laced himself back up. "Can't say I fancy the notion. Once they figure a way to work a dead horse, we'll be next. Likely I'll be the first too. 'Edd,' they'll say, 'dying's no excuse for lying down no more, so get on up and take this spear, you've got the watch tonight.' Well, I shouldn't be so gloomy. Might be I'll die before they work it out."
he's so fucking based

>>24649753
Because their prior changes were miniscule, and they were obviously working under the impression that the series would be long finished before they ever actually had to worry about those changes mattering. Hell the fact that it was finished allowed them to make seemingly pointless changes only to realize later that it could have been one of a million different super important plotlines. To add to this further, they were only given cliff notes of the ending, George himself had no idea how the fuck it was going to end. He had nothing planned out, and he has admitted that several times to the point of not even planning out who the fuck Aegon was in the beginning, which is why there's a sudden Retcon of how Dorne was actually independent for most of the Iron Throne's reign. Who can blame anyone for wanting to abandon a disaster like that instead of writing the story for another man and being clowned for it the way the FMA writers did when FMAB came out?

>>24649758
I love Edd, man.

>>24649759
Yeah GRRM had to have known by like season 3 they were going to eclipse him. He was a TV writer prior he could’ve easily worked closely with D&D to hash out some sort of coherent narrative especially since he was an active writer up until season 4. The nosedive of the show is just as much his fault.

>>24649759
This

>>24645764 (OP)
Do you guys think that if Arya had sent Jaqen H'ghar to kill Tywin the Red Wedding could've been avoided? As a matter of fact, which three people could she have sent to kill that would change the course of A Storm of Swords completely?

>>24649759
Huh. I never thought of it this way. It was always a losing situation for D&D. However, they were pretty ass writers to begin with, anyways. Without any pre-written material they fucked it up immediately. You can't deny that.

>>24649786
Some of the best scenes werent in the books. Even George said that.

I also dont think seasons 5 and 6 are bad.

>>24649759
I like the 03 version better than brotherhood

>>24649795
Agreed. It’s not perfect but there’s a gravitas to the 03 story that just isn’t present in the one that includes a chibi panda

>>24649759
I mean George never made any promises to them so their assumptions are entirely on them. He didn’t force them to do the job either. And again he also didn’t force them to bring in sandwich delivery boys like Cogman into the writing room instead of actual experienced screen writers. I’m not gonna make excuses for George who most definitely dragged his feet, but I’m not gonna make excuses for D&D for their poor decisions and planning but whatever you believe what you want. Franchise as a whole in the toilet at this point so I’m pretty much apathetic to these revisionist stances.

>>24649780
If she wasnt a child, thinking in the short term, and named the people she hated the most in order of importance Robb would have ended up winning, and either completely causing the dissolution of the Iron Throne, or beating concessions out of Renly/Stannis to become the second King Who Knelt. In exchange, Arya would have likely died like that one lady who went to the Nights Watch disguised as a boy and got raped to death, with no one ever knowing it was her. So basically she did what she should have done, and prioritized her safety instead of revenge. It's kinda funny how her childlike innocence saved her life.

>>24649795
Brotherhood is easily a more consistent product. 03 has some high points but also terrible low points. The final season being reduced to a mediocre movie also hurt its legacy. I grew up with 03 but Brotherhood is definitely better.

>>24649793
>Some of the best scenes werent in the books
Examples? The only one I recall he admits was better was Arya with Tywin, and I disagreed with that. They just wrote Arya as this le heckin clever boss girl that Tywin couldn't help but admire.

>>24649795
It still doesn't matter how well they did, to everyone else they're just the pale imitation, even if a vocal fanbase loves it. They did exactly what D&D would have done, followed the grim tone of the story to it's logical conclusion, only to find out the author was actually stealthfully going to make it a hopeful ending which is more popular and beloved by the masses anyway. The only difference is that the author of FMA had leagues more integrity and actually finished her fucking story before decades had passed.

>>24649813
>In exchange, Arya would have likely died like that one lady who went to the Nights Watch disguised as a boy and got raped to death,
Why nigga? How does helping Robb win the war inevitably end with her getting raped to death?

>>24649817
All the littlefinger varys scenes, robert and cersei. Ygritte and Jon ontop of the wall, bunch of other ones, like the raid to kill the traitor nights watch.

>>24649811
He literally did. He first said it would be out by 2014, then 2015, then 16, etc... It's been made plenty clear over the years that they were told and were fully expecting the series to be done before they even got to Season 4, which is why that whole thing is a horrific mess of bullshit as they finally came to the realization the rest of the fanbase did. D&D are definitely a nepobaby duo that got in over their heads, were supremely arrogant about their own writing skills, and etc... But we can't pretend they're not the reason George isn't being treated like Rothfuss right now, a forgotten relic only remembered by the people who got too enamored with their neverfinished stories. They're total dickheads, but if I was put in their position I'd nuke George's legacy too by just pandering to the soap opera audience that already showed they didn't give a fuck about his work either.

>>24649811
George will always deserve more hate. That tranny asking about who will replace him when he dies was hilarious.

>>24649819
Brotherhood’s ending doesn’t make any sense. The main cast get used as part of a transmutation and are just fine afterwards??? I don’t care if it’s hopeful, the story broke its own logic and, yes, I’m still mad

>>24649820
Because she was in a castle surrounded by soldiers, and nearly every death she ordered was against someone that was on their way to brutally killing her and her friends, getting in their way and on the way to discovering her, while also serving as the cupbearer to the notoriously brutal rapist lord that was being treacherous before the war even started going badly. It's either raped to death or stabbed half a hundred times like Rhaenys considering George's tastes, and how he sets up situations in his stories.

>>24649833
It's definitely flawed, but 03 has similar bullshit going on with Father what's his name just coming back after being proven to be an alchemy using fraud and getting thousands to die over his bullshit because "uh actually humans are bad yo" which led to Rose getting raped for shock value.

>>24649832
>George will always deserve more hate
Never said that he didn’t. Watching the clip of that tranny looking George in the eye and telling him he was gonna die soon in front of the whole panel had me laughing my ass off.

>>24649842
He's basically cultivated a cult, which is why I assume he never got asked this shit in public before. The closest we've ever gotten was the South Park episode. Seeing him actually have to deal with it in public, and having Sanderson go "I'm not touching that fuck shit with a ten foot pole" to his face while he sits there impotent waiting for someone to escort her off over a benign question is worth all the redditors pretending like they havent been asking this question for half a decade no matter how infuriating it is.

He kind of had this coming. He was a bit of a dick at the panel.
>George was telling a story of how smart a child he was that he knew Jesus didn't exist at 8 years old and how stupid Christians are. This was obviously directed at Sanderson who stared down and his face got a little red. I don't blame him
>Brandon got asked a question about hard magic systems and how he creates them. George jumped in and went on a ten minute rant about how hard magic systems are dumb, he hates them, no one wants to read them, and you're a questionable author if you write them.
>Brandon's successful business (Dragonsteel) and kickstarters got brought up a couple times and George got all worked up. Said authors shouldn't be expected to do social media or do anything other than write. And also said some things like "just because someone does a kickstarter doesn't mean they can write or that the book is worth reading"
>George directly asked Brandon, "you're Mormon right? How do you deal with that?" And it came across with a really blunt and snarky tone. This was a few questions after he said Christians were stupid and Jesus was make believe.

The real question is why did they invite GRRM when he hasn't published anything in years?

>>24646042
SOMEBODY TOLD ME

YOU HAD A BOYFRIEND

WHO LOOKED LIKE MY GIRLFRIEND

WHO TOLD GEORGE HE WOULD DIE TO HIS FACE AT WORLDCON OF THIS YEAR

>>24649867
He basically helped build the con into what it is today by leveraging the idea that he'll be announcing Winds at it. Every year thousands of retards go in the expectation that he'll actually reveal Winds.

>>24649859
is there a better quality recording of it somewhere?

>>24649826
Meh. Ygritte is a ginger nagging hag and the Finger/Varys scenes are marvel tier

>>24649841
Fair enough. Different strokes. Maybe it’s because I was younger watching the OG series. Maybe I just like 03’s explanation for the homunculi more. Maybe I just think the ending with Nazis was better than everyone standing around in a circle cheering on a fist fight.

>>24649880
Weird. He helped grow the con with the anticipation that he might announce a book that people have been waiting for for over a fucking decade. Feels like he's running a con to keep getting appearance fees.

>>24649924
... That's exactly what he's doing. He's also hoping people will stop to give a fuck about anything else he's written, without realizing(or perhaps because he realizes) that when he ends the series everyone can see the mystery box bullshit he's written for what it is.

>>24649129
mills apparently

>>24649918
My biggest problem with FMAB is the sheer cuckery Ed and Al work under when they go "NOOOO I DONT WANT TO GET MY BODY BACK LIKE THAT!!!" When they find out how PS' are made. The author and her moralfaggotry invade the story severely compared to 03 where everyone is doing what they have to do, and all the idealistic bullshit they've been fed is just that, bullshit, leaving them to fend with the cruel world they've always been living in. It makes more sense that they don't use one to fix their bodies in that world than it does in Brotherhood. It's basically like if you found an iPhone with all the knowledge you need to survive after an apocalypse, but after realizing a kid died in a mine getting the lithium you throw it away.

>>24649882
Not yet.

>>24649938
what a lazy fat fuck

Angela White as Ashara Dayne

>>24649829
>D&D are definitely a nepobaby duo that got in over their heads

They should have never been handed the reins of a multimillion dollar tv series, all the more so after their pilot episode was so bad, HBO completely scrapped it and started over... with the same two retards at the helm.

>>24650093
D&D were god tier at adapting the first 3 books. Compare them to Ryan Condal and Sara Hess, they killed that shit. They didn’t sign up to write the ending for George. Also dance and feast are fucking shit and I get why they ignored most of it

>>24650097
>D&D were god tier

>>24650138
Go on then, piss yourself

>>24649254
because… u will c y

>>24650136
He's right though, they were the perfect degenerates that were into the exact same weird shit George was to make his work anything other than a catastrophe. Condal basically proved even nepobabies have a higher level of base competence, and at least they waited 3 seasons before beginning to think they were better than the original author.

>>24646042
the fact this fat fuck still has the gall to show up in these conventions instead of working on the book is what pisses me off the most

>>24650165
I’m honestly pissed it was such a Reddit question

>>24650136
ill in pain lmao

Has George written anything in the last ten years? And by write I mean the main series.

>>24649453
Just about all fanfiction, good and bad, is written by women. You should be more grateful!

On that point: an awful lot of the Robert love and women hate here reads as kinda fruity. Not you specifically, but strongly believe that such men need to shit or get off the pot: admit your bisexuality to yourself, meditate on what you want, and act accordingly. Either way, put the misogyny aside, its shameful (camouflage or not). "A woman made you in her body.. compare [her] to a flower. Show respect!" (Alex Jones to Milo Yianapolis, modified by me).

Also: could you name the specific Jaimsa fic you refer to? Cheers.

>>24650332
For the avoidance of doubt - act accordingly means choose. It probably should be one or the other, and your choice should be a about what you truly want and not about what is respectable.

>>24650332
Get raped cunt

>>24650356
hit dog hollering.

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>>24649872
Kek.

>>24649026
Kys.