are you feeling nostalgic yet anon? are you?
>>23326661 (OP)watching the show explains the show
>>23326661 (OP)Anno wants to reference the third Keroro Gunsou movie which also has first Gundam show up to save the day.
>>23326669idk feels like it came out of left field
>>23326661 (OP)if you'd watched the show you wouldn't be asking this
Stop acting like this makes any sort of sense. Is Shuji Amuro? Why did it show Char working together with him? Is Amuro possessing the real Shuji? Why is the RX-78-2 showing up if it never ever encountered any sort of Zeknova shit on "muh otherside"? Why is Beyond the Time playing? Did Amuro warp in at the end of CCA, when that song plays?
This is complete nonsense, which is a shame because if you strip out the Into The Gundamverse slop, you have the bones of something pretty good.
>>23326707>you have the bones of something pretty goodthe execution and overall writing was just never there though
>>23326707Found the retard.
This show is fucking retarded.
>>23326728Found the retard.
Every previous post saying the show was actually we!l made is.wrong btw. They were all cope and denial. The dull characters, the pandering Zeta and MSG references, the shitty depiction of newtypes, all of it was always terrible since The movie The latest episode simply tore the mask off.
So spoonfed me. Char went to the other side. Shuji was already there and Char trained him up. Shuji came back to this side and Amuro's been talking to him the whole time?
>>23326739Amuro was the one telling Shuji to sniff women this entire time, not Char
Now that actually is a plot twist
Remember that weird short gundam base animation of amuro and char getting transported to a different dimension and fighting in a mall? And drawn like kpop boyband characters for what was clearly fujobait?
>>23326661 (OP)GOD DAMNIT CHAR I WAS ENJOYING BEING DEAD DON'T MAKE ME COME THERE
>>23326750They added that made that old looking guy who died in ten minutes into a main character too for some reason
>>23326737Found the retard.
Every new Gundam show is gonna filter anons isn't it?
>>23326765I was expecting a good show and got filtered by it being a bad show
>>23326661 (OP)Amuro after cleaning the entire cast's clock
>>23326794>Timeline had to be pulled back to prevent Scirrcco dominating everyone>Amuro is now erasing the very concept of Zeek victory a universe at a timeMy fuarking gods...
>>23326661 (OP)THE WHITE DEVIL COMES TO KILL EVERY RETARD IN THIS SHOW
>>23326763Your a retard for liking this nostalgiawankfest
>>23326675>AnnoRetard-chama, that guy has nothing to do with those episodes. This is not his show.
โWhen the Eye opened in the heavens, the Voice of Flazo sang across the black seas of night. Baltok, the Bringer of Balance, descended in the Vessel of Three Rings. He bore the Orb of Awakening to the Children of Silence.โ
ask miyazaki probably, the circle jerk is not bad
>>23326737Low-effort bait is low-effort.
Is this going to end up being some kind of allegory for moving beyond the original Gundam series and the Universal Century as a whole, by making the actual RX-78-2 Gundam the final boss of GQuuuuuuX? Because that feels like the exact sort of message that feels typical of early Tomino's works, and something I'd expect from Studio Khara as a whole.
>>23326813If it is then 00 season two did it better
Which is funny since that's a very low had that Gquuuuuux failed to clear
>>23326813It'll be a whole lot of allegory about the nature of a dream that no longer needs its dreamer.
>>23326820Very esoteric reference anon, i respect it.
This totally could have been a single Shin Gundam movie but they wanted more time to showcase suits for gunpla.
>>23326661 (OP)This thing didn't get CGI'd in the most recent entry and current industry?
>>23326847It's hand drawn on purpose, like the rose elmeth.
>>23326847you think these nerds would pass up their chance at personally hand drawing Gramps in all his glory? they are japanese after all.
This moment showed Lalah rewriting reality to what she perceived it to be the moment she was trapped in time, with Char as the Red Comet.
However Char seems to be aware that this was her last memory of him.
Unless this is GQuuuuuuX Char who somehow learned about the events of the main Gundam timeline, or a Char from any point between the events of 0079 and CCA, this seems like it really is post-Axis Shock CCA Char like some people were predicting.
Which means the RX-78 is really the Nu-Gundam
With Axis Shock Amuro inside.
>it really is Amuro sniffing out a reality where he didn't fucking blast Char
MEMES
INTO
REALITY
>>23326889Be silent for several days.
>>23326880Bloodthirsty Amuro stans don't understand the character.
>>23326895who fucking cares if something is incharacter in this garbage show, actually the more out of character they are the better
>>23326897>This show is so garbage that I spend all my energy posting about how garbage it is so that nobody will make the mistake of enjoying this garbage show that I hate but am obsessed with.
>>2332681300 did it first but at least they had the dignity to not actually have Grandpa
>>23326900Are you projecting or something - shitposting on 4chan takes all your energy? Are you okay? That doesn't sound healthy.
Man Amuro must be having the weirdest fucking week:
>Killed Lalah
>Met Hello Kitty
>Gets sucked into a different universe
>>23326900bro i just watched the episode 20 minutes ago so i'm posting about it, i'm not sure what qualifies as obsessed to you but only come to threads once a week
>>23326874that very clearly is not CCA Char though and there is no post-Axis shock RX-78 since it was destroyed all the way back in 0079
>>23326923With the power of multiverses and alternate histories, anything is possible, so long as the war doesn't end before someone gets ahold of some kind of psycotechnology.
>>23326923What makes you say it's not CCA Char?
Also what I'm getting at is that if this Char's appearance was overwritten by Lalah's memory of Char (0079 Red Comet uniform) then that Gundam's appearance was (probably) overwritten by her last memory of the Gundam
They played Beyond the Time over the reveal, so I don't think it's a stretch at all to guess it's really the Nu-Gundam with its appearance overwritten by Lalah.
Will probably be a reveal at the end of the episode.
>>23326661 (OP)Watch the episode before asking stupid questions anon
>>23326934no scar from the rapier fight, also just purely not aging?
>>23326934The theory about it being Axis Shock Amuro seems unlikely desu, they wouldn't dare use Amuro's VA after last year
Its beyond the time because the gundam from the char flashback
>>23326661 (OP)Because bullshit?
Couldn't get a decent story about the after effects of Zeon winning the OYW without multiversal bullshit.
>>23326940>no scar from the rapier fight, also just purely not aging?I think you could chalk both of those up to the art style.
Honestly I don't even remember him having a scar in both Zeta and CCA.
>The theory about it being Axis Shock Amuro seems unlikely desu, they wouldn't dare use Amuro's VA after last yearThey're using a new VA for Char. I don't see how the situation with Amuro's VA would stop them from doing anything with Amuro as a character.
Char
md5: 1c2b33dd8f661c82c38e03412902e7da
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>>23326958in zeta he covers it with his hair and glasses, but in cca hes depicted with it all the time
>>23326957There's not a lot to say about what would happen if Zeon won that wasn't already covered: nothing changes for the spacenoids, the Zabis start fighting amongst themselves, and the Federation starts pulling underhanded bullshit to try and regain control of the earth sphere.
There's really not a whole lot to spell out on the matter. Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.
>>23326958>Honestly I don't even remember him having a scar in both Zeta and CCA.It's there.
>>23326983Can see it in zeta too even with his shades on allot it's a detail I doubt they'd miss.
>>23326978Then why bother?
The story is plainly not Gundam. Its falling into the same fucking traps as Witch but fucking worse and don't get me fucking started on the abysmal designs.
>>23326979>>23326983>>23326987honestly i never even noticed it until now, i always just assumed it was shading
>>23326992>it's not gundam because... just shut up it's not gundam!
>>23326958He never got the scar because the duel never took place.
>>23326675to be fair I like that one a lot for DPRK showing up
>>23326992hold on here, you seem to be confusing bandai's money-making policy with some kind of passion for telling stories thing
This is the Char from this universe, so there's no scar or aging. What I think happened is that, by being caught in a Zeknova, he got to see beyond the time like Lalah and experienced a bit of what happened in different timelines.
>>23326972>>23326976>>23326979>>23326983Feeling like I come from another universe rn.
I guess I just never registered it because it kinda looks like like both a forehead crease or a strand of hair.
This is starting to get kinda dumb.
>>23326661 (OP)I hope Kill Em All Amuro kills all those cocksuckers.
>>23326813We been moved past it, this show literally is literally dragging us screaming back. They created their own inability to move on, it's a self fulfilling prophecy.
>>23327008It still has me, I'm still interested in where they are going with all these pieces on the board.
But honestly it got dumb for me several episodes ago.
I think this show has the makings of a great story, but it lacks something in the execution.
Feel like otaku having fun playing with their Gunpla
>>23327008starting? KINDA??
>>23326958this scene is literally telling you it isn't cca char
>>23327027I'm with you. I'm just curious as to where they're going with all of this.
i'm ashamed... i had the biggest soi face on when this happened despite knowing this show is so bad and rushed. i am the problem.
So the MS looking different in this universe is not just a style choice, but a whole different line of tech development?
If it's a style choice, the OG Gundam would have looked like the Red Gundam too.
>>23327008always was
the last "passable" episode was the Feddie Milf one
>>23327044He sweeps his hair back and looks a lot like CCA Char in that shot.
The scar is an issue, but I don't remember anything else suggesting he's not CCA Char in the scene.
>>23327075>The scar is an issuethe people making this show wouldn't forget the scar if it was intended to be CCA char, stop coping.
>>23327083I dunno. I'm not ready to give up on the idea.
It might literally just be me hoping the use of Beyond the Time wasn't just a fanservice pull that isn't relevant to the plot.
>>23327008All the timeline stuff is silly but that was always clearly the endgoal form the moment Char quotes Lalah and disappears in what was obviously a wormhole of some kind.
I've quite enjoyed this series though. I only wish it had maybe 2 or 3 more episodes. Maybe one more clan battle episode with the trio hanging out afterwards and one for Machu exploring Earth more.
It should have been Nu Gundam.
>>23327018Everyone wants to tell you to move on, no one makes anything good for you to move on to. An eternity of crappy chiding reboots.
So then what is the other side?
>>23327151The actually good gundam show
One thing's for sure. Next Tuesday's gonna be a CRAZY day for /m/.
I don't know how you escaped Sazabi's pod, Char or why you changed outfits, but you and that new little girl you've recruited are going down.
>>23327194It's just not going to be the same without his VA. I hope whoever they have for him can capture his speaking mannerism well enough.
>>23326934god that better not be the cop-out they use so that they can nostalgia bait with the 0079 designs instead of the CCA ones
still holding out hope that that's not CCA Char though, he's simply acting way too different from where he was at the end of the original timeline, plus if he were somehow thrown back in time I doubt he'd be content hiding away in some Zeknova laser development project
>>233268133rd for 00 already did it.
Did it better as well. Having it literally be the 78-2 is very, very dumb.
>>23326661 (OP)*seal clapping intensifies*
>>23327226You're implying that a series made by fanboys of gundam characters actually understands those characters, just look at how they got Challia wrong
>>23327070a whole different line of tech development would be the cool reason behind a proper Zeon-victory AU show. The MS, in particular the Gundam line, just look different in GQuuuuuux because they want the Eva crowd though.
>>23326940What did Amuro's VA do?
>>23327236He knows what he did.
>>23327227on a 00 related note, the Zeknova Kira-Kira space gave of Trans-AM Burst vibes
>>23327236Got exposed to having an affair, beating the women he was having the affair with and making her get an abortion
His statement read like it was written by Tomino himself. Life imitates art.
>>23327236he dated a girl like 20 years younger than him, hit her and abused her, and demanded she abort the baby she had with him.
>>23327226I think it's probably not CCA Char after all, but the idea that it's the Nu instead of the RX-78 does not seem far fetched to me.
>>23327241>>23327243Damn. Fuck I liked Amuro's VA a ton too. Standard Tuxedo Mask trivia, other roles.
I also just love Amuro, damn shame.
Isn't he close to 70 at this point?
>>23327251it doesn't seem far fetched and that's making me mad because I really don't want it to be that
>>23327223how about they grow some balls, and just get furuya, controversy be damned.
>>23327241Tomino definitely had an influence on him. But that's not a bad thing.
I think no matter what the ending will suck
>machu beats the rx 78 2 will feel unearned because she has been a joke for the whole show so the idea that she could beat the white devil is bogus
>machu losing to rx 78 2 will just be nostalgia fan wank and makes her heroes journey pointless because you can't beat or move past the oyw ever
>>23327298You think she's really gonna fight 78 and not just yell at Char and Amuro as they fight each other only for Lalah to suicide herself to save Char and return things to the natural order of Lalah Must Always Die?
>>23326661 (OP)>yellow optics>red glow this should piss me off but it really fucking does
>>23327307Yeah this is really shaping up to be one of those shows where the universe gets reset and all the events of the story become pointless
>>23327263I've had a feeling since very early on, probably since episode 2, that the Axis Shock in CCA is going to send CCA Char and/or Amuro into this universe. There's that spoiler post about the show being a love story, and we have Lalah trapped in the Elmeth like an enchanted Disney princess. The romantic in me hopes there is actually going to be a happy-ever-after ending like that. Maybe even something bitter sweet where CCA Char gets one last moment with the real Lalah and then Amuro closes out the alternate universe sending them all beyond the time
>>23326661 (OP)What a piece of shit.
The white devil, not content to destroy zeon in only its own world, pursues the concept of zeonism into other worlds too
>>23327340You cannot escape fencing day, Char!
I mean sure that Full Frontal faggot didn't get his head caved in by a pipe like he was supposed to BUT WE'LL MAKE UP FOR THAT WITH THIS ONE CHAR!
CHAAAAAAAAAR!
I'LL CHASE YOU BEYOND THE TIME, CHAAAAAR!
My feelings are best described with one scene
The showdown between Machu and Nyann
Very obviously set up as a serious moment much like the meme comparison of Lelouch and Suzaku but unlike those 2 Machu and Nyann really didnt have all that much interaction or at least not much shown and a lot of their interactions were not really all that positive so its kinda hard to see them as friends really, like im sure there was a lot of time spent off screen so in universe it really was a big deal but as an audience we didnt see that and thus dont get the same emotional payoff for the scene
Assuming for a moment that Amuro is the "Gundam" that Shuji's been talking to this entire time instead of the Red Gundam, and ALSO the person sending mysterious texts to Machu and doing things like opening doors for her, what's his gameplan?
>>23327354find zeek
kill zeek
>>23327354To wake Lalah up and end the dreaming world that GQx takes place in.
Uh, so what did the Omega Psycommu limiter release do? Gquarks can break time prisons... that's it?
we get it, she's a prostitute. was this necessary?
>>23327369How did they hook the Elmeth up to the yog soggy gun anyway if it has a time shield?
Or is it implied that Fred was used for initial assembly in the interim?
I feel like I have to apologize to the Star Wars sequels.
>>23327375what do you mean, this is basically what Dave Filoni did to star wars anyways
>>23327255>>23327270It was time to replace him anyway. I think that's why he came out with his sin. He was ready to retire from most of if not all of his roles.
>>23327375The Last Jedi and Rise of Skywalker are STILL worse than this.
>>23327340>Clock Tower referenceI've never considered this for Gundam fanart before...
>>23327389Are you actually implying TFA is somehow any better? At least Qux serves up memberberries in more unique ways like having Solar Ray be a portal gun on Crack.
>>23327386t.mysterious blond haired man
>>23327395Gquacks is more enteraining in a trainwreck kind of way, whilst TFA is unmemorably average.
>>23327398And by unmemorably average, you mean unimaginative dogshit that was defended by people who insisted there would be payoff in the rest of the trilogy only for it to be revealed there was never a coherent plan to begin with.
>>23327375Even a shitty series like Gquux doesn't kill the franchise like sequel trilogy
The recreation of the Zeta stage scene was almost as pathetic as this.
>>23327407just shuttu uppu and rememberu old show datto you watched and riked okay
>>23327369It seemed to generate micro-black holes around it, allowing it to distort spacetime and disrupt the distortion field the Elmeth is locked in. Remember that psychofields created by the Nu and Unicorn can rewrite reality, it's not surprising that Zeon would innately limit the potential of a Newtype to avoid a Zeknova from consuming the Earth or Side 3 or whatever.
But the pistol parallel is neat. Challia considered his sidearm his key to freedom. By eshewing his bindings to his duty and his life he was able to do what he wanted. He gave it to Machu so she could have the freedom to do what she wanted to as well. Meanwhile Kycilia considered her sidearm her lineage, and a tool to protect herself and what she found important. She gave it to Nyaan so Nyaan could protect herself and the things she found important too, and ironically Kycilia became Nyaan's target when she turned her rifle towards Machu, Nyaan's friend.
Freedom and safety, Machu and Nyaan's themes.
Star Wars sequel trilogy was so universally reviled that Star Wars merchandise still hasn't recovered. GQux for all of its retardation is not anywhere that bad.
>>23327419Somehowโฆโฆโฆ Palpatine returned.
>>23327339endlessly breed them
>>23327372There's something fucking vile about it. When out of anything Tomino made up, they handpicked the whore backstory, dressed her in degrading clothes, and wrote that she continued to be a whore to wait for her "lover". Vile pieces of shit
>>23326707Shuji is the Gundam AI's amalgamation if Amuro and Chan had a child.
>>23327421Well maybe it should be.
So what did Shiiko see in the Kira Kira that made her smile. I assume she saw the other timeline where zeon got stomped?
>>23327421You forget that anime fans are the biggest consumers of slop hence why people are obsessed with a character who only had a few lines of dialogue before dying just because she had a cute design
>>23327431A peaceful life with her family?
>>23327438>Lalah is slop-coded
>>23327420>towards Machu, Nyaan's friend.But they aren't friends.
>>23327420>>23327444Machu was such a good friend that Nyan didn't hesitate to try to murder her despite admitting she has no real reason to fight her.
>>23327068Same brother, same. I came all over my monitor.
>>23327375>I feel like I have to apologize to the Star Wars sequels.Don't you ever fucking say that. The devil himself would have to ejaculate in my eye before I would ever say that.
>>23327444Clearly Nyaan thinks so on some level, since she instinctively fired at Kycilia when Kycilia tried to kill Machu. Their problem, like always, is a lack of communication. Machu didn't tell Nyaan that she thought the kira-kira was a special connection between her and Shuji, Nyaan was excited to show Machu that she could experience it too, but didn't tell Machu this and the apple-headed idiot assumed Nyaan was trying to betray her.
>>23327463Nyaan didn't know it was Machu in the QuuuuuuX until they made the contact bridge, and likewise Machu didn't know Nyaan was in the FreD. Fucking CONNECT!
>>23326739Kawarou needs no training, he's just trying to have sadistic fun. I think Nono will make sure he understands just what it means to have true heart and guts though.
>>23326661 (OP)Would it have been more kino if this motherfucker emerged to end the timeline?
>>23327471>Clearly Nyaan thinks so on some levelShe was already thinking of abandoning her at the start of the psycho gundam fight.
Fuck it. I'm still hung up on the idea that Shirouzu Char might be CCA char.
Putting aside the scar issue, which blows a big hole in the theory, he's remarkably chilled out.
This is the kind of thing I'd expect a post-CCA Char, who "saw the light of the human heart" Amuro wanted to show him to say.
He says this after Kycilia asks him if he would genocide humans living on Earth for the sake of the newtype dream.
Even if it is just GQx Char, this is a very different Char than one we've known.
>>23327471They learned each other's identity and began talking when they started fighting. Machu even asked her what the fuck she was doing working for Zeon and she admitted she didn't know.
>>23327497I mean this is the direction Four Vagina was going in before Kamille got Papsmeared
>>23327497Remember he went on holiday beyond the time thanks to the first zeknova, it might have shown him something that gave him a more mature perspective on things before returning him to his world.
>>23327497I doubt this is CCA or post CCA Char.
You mention he's more "chill", but this exactly what Zeta era Char was like, when he was still open to letting humanity evolve on it's own.
It wasn't until the end of Zeta when Char got jaded as fuck.
>>23327497It's the Char that went to the Moomin world. The fucking Moomins were the key to everything after all!
>Machu, scared and in awe of the superior Gundam, screams and lunges in her GCucks
>the Gundam dodges and punches GCucks' cockpit in counter, caves it in and splats Machu into a bloody mess
>GFreD and Nyaan try to get in the Gundam's blind spot and attack while she screams Machu's name
>the Gundam immediately turns around and kicks GFreD's head off, then stabs the cockpit with a beam saber, disintegrating Nyaan instantly
>GCucks Char roars in anger and rushes the Gundam with his new GWaldO but it's pointless, the Gundam pulls out its Beam Javelin and destroys the GWaldO and Char, leaving such a large explosion in its wake that no trace of Char is left
>finally, the pilot steps out to greet Shuji, who is cowering, but glad he can now have Lalah to himself
>
>>23327497>>23327519This is GQ's own Char. Because he's the one who stole the Gundam in this timeline, he never grew obsessed with defeating Amuro. Also, the other hints:
>original Char wanted to drop Axis on Earth>GQx Char wants to stop Kycilia from using the Yomagn'tho to obliterate Earth>original Char would've dropped everything if it meant seeing Lalah again>GQx Char needs to eliminate Lalah from his world
>>23327499>Machu even asked her what the fuck she was doing working for Zeon and she admitted she didn't know.dumb bitch, all she had to do was admit that kycilia offered her safety and comfort after the shitshow that was the last clan battle, that she felt useful, even if it was mainly for her newtype abilities, and because she no longer had to hide and run as an illegal refugee with no future except for illegal underground work
now she sounds like a cunt who intentionally wanted to murder people, instead of just being a patsy who was handed a vague note to press buttons to unknowingly activate a superweapon because even Kycilia knew that if she told her the truth about kira-kira-ciding 20,000 people at A Baoa Qu then Nyaan would have had misgivings
>>23327523Well, you're joking, but he sounds like Amuro so maybe he can fill the VA role for Amuro?
>The gundam will be animated to replicate the look of the original show.
>>23327428Tomino wouldn't have it any other way.
>>23327428>>23327596>dressed her in degrading clothesHere's a good one for you, Anon: the bikinis worn by the Neneka Team in Victory were designed by him personally.
STOP ASKING QuuuuuuESTIONS AND JUST CONSuuuuuuME
>>23327606I want to consume Machu's pussy.
>>23327523The only ending that could redeem this shitshow.
I wonder how the
>anno made evangelion because he hates mecha like gundam!
types will go on now that the anno gundam series is completely ruined specifically by jacking off about how much he likes the original gundam way too fucking much.
This show has been great. It was clearly meant to be 24 episodes but they are making a good story with what they can.
Hopefully season two is good.
This show was a mess, it clearly needed 12 more episodes to tell a proper story.
>>23326661 (OP)Anno does not know how to do anything else.
>>23327625i feel like it could have been somewhat competent if they didn't waste 2/3rds of the episodes on the inconsequential clan battle storyline
>>23327615Seeing the copes for this mess continue to roll in and occasionally collide with eachother is great.
You'll see one guy post "it was robbed of 2 cours! robbed!" and another say "its already perfect at 12 episodes, you just don't see it, you're all stupid!"
>a what-if zeon victory timeline
>some young girls fighting in clan battles (isn't this just wfm?)
>a big meta piece about timelines and the original series and it's legacy (isn't this just turn a but worse?)
This is three different plotlines crammed into a sawn-off length series and none of them sound very enticing.
>>23327643This reminds me more of the sequel to that Mazinger Zero manga
>>23326669You see, I love this show because of the subtext. In the West, a lot of shows that reference old material keeps trying to supercede it, by implying that new, more marketable stuff is better.
Here, the show's thesis is explicitly that the old stuff is the best, should be admired, and that all the new stuff doesn't matter / is significantly worse.
And I love that, because fuck the 'people' who want to destroy all your heroes and history.
More, this show's indicated that the Great Western Thought Experiment has failed, and has slain yuri.
Female protagonists are NOT important.
>>23326813>erm actually the show is bad on purpose because of..le message of..old things bad?!
>>23327640I think the clan battle stint could have worked better with 24 eps, the transition away from duels felt pretty natural in G-Witch, here though itโs so fast that the clan battles feel completely pointless.
>>23327599>>23327596I'll only clap if Tomino wrote another novel with Amuro being ass fucked by Zeon old men for food during period he deserted from White Base
>>23327650Yeah okay buddy, I would hold your horses on that until the finale airs where Machu doesn't solo the rx-78.
>>23326707Shuji is Beltorchkas/Chans child
>made her take multiple cocks when she was young until she became a hag her cunt worn out and not lickable anymore
>well Tomino wouldn't have it other way
/m/en are cuck
>>23327676That doesn't actually matter. We've already established that this timeline is an aberration, it's outright stated. Even if Machuu defeated the RX-78, it's still an OYW spin-off, just one that has earned the right to live for a little longer.
>>23326707Tomino said Into the Spiderverse had surpassed all japanese animation, including Gundam.
>>23327686Tomino has never made a good series so he can nibble on my chode
Lalah just woke up, couldn't they just talk this out?
Am very bummed out after Alphacide. GQuuuuuuX had at least three VERY interesting premises (the alternate OYW itself, growing up in the aftermath of that, and what caused the timeline split) and it bungled all of them by mixing them up so much that no characters or story beats get to be fully fleshed out.
The Alt OYW? Over in ~2 episodes, felt like a Gihren's Greed cutscene. Easily could've been an entire 2 cour series on its own.
The Aftermath? We don't see ANY meaningful world building stuff related to it, drop the clanbat stuff after blowing 5 episodes on it, promising secondary characters like Shiiko and Deux job, and our main cast get embarrassingly little character development. Poor Machu wants to go to Earth and find herself, and she spends the whole fuckin time she's on Earth bouncing around gQxLalah's brothel.
Focusing on the cause of the timeline split is such a bizarre choice. Too much old Gundam stuff for new fans, too little new Gundam stuff for old fans.
>>23327706The show for sure has an identity crisis. I've seen arguments on /m/ for it being for at least 4 different audiences
>>23327628>AnnoYou mean the man that isn't on charge of this anime?
>>23326707He's somehow related to Char, they wouldn't bring attention to pic related otherwise.
Maybe he's his and Lalah's kind from another reality or some shit, don't know why he has time jannie powers though.
I think he wants to kill Char because this will make Lalah give up on this reality.
Shuji summoned RX-78 because this is what kills Char in other timelines
>>23327722>pic relatedAnd I forgot the pic, of course
>>23326923>not CCA Char though and there is no post-Axis shock RX-78 since it was destroyed all the way back in 0079You're forgetting that Lalah dies in 0079, the RX-78-2 and Zeon uniformed Char were all she knew.
>>23327606I'm trying, but all the GQux kits are fucking sold out
>>23327643The plotlines are
>Zeon's civil war (background setting, leading to clan battles)>Machu, Nyaan, and Shuji's development>The mystery of Char (Shuji, the Red Gundam, Challia, Lalah, the alt-timeline)And they all intersect somewhat.
>>23327757But poorly executed because of pacing
Char is telling Gundam fans to move on.
>>23327757Clan battles were kinda pointless and led to nothing.
It's like they were an excuse to inject some action and drama where it wouldn't exist otherwise. Oh, and the memberberries, of course.
You could replace clan battles with various scenarios where they need to face the police or something and not much would change.
Yep, that's definitely Char alright.
>>23327767Yeah they could've Chalia or some Zeon officers sending someone to capturing Gundam instead of doing clan battle shit
Weirdly it was the Zeta stage scene that annoyed me the most, by the time the shit happened after I was already checked out
>>23327751If she can see time and visit CCA amuro with her newtype ghost, she knew too about Nu Gundam
>>23327763dude...a show..with robots..that tells its fans..to move on..while relying on references to other works...to even be a functioning piece of media..DEEP and meaningful
>>23327763gendum obviously loves me back though
Char of all characters saying he's going to kill Lalah or whatever feels extraordinarily bizarre.
>>23327802This Char never met Lalah, he doesn't give a shit about her.
>>23327815I know I understand the context, that's why I said it feels bizarre not that it actually is.
>>23327815He DOES give a shit about her, but he wants to put her out of her misery rather than let her continue to suffer.
>>23326677>out of left field>been mentioning for the last half of the season of zeknova, oyw, and lalah rose shenanigansStop speedwatching you nigga
People are not understanding that Qquack's universe is not tying to the original UC, that UC is also an alt UC.
Taking this into consideration lets remember a few things:
Gquack's Lalah also tells us that she has a recurring vision where Char is always killed by Amuro over and over again, is this related to the Elmeth being in Qquack's universe and UC Lalah being absent over there?
But also Shuji tells us that this universe was made by UC Lalah herself, so she had to create and travel into Qquack's Universe before she died in the UC universe.
>>23326934>>23326958Why the fuck would he be scarred, Amuro never got in the Gundam, Sayla was the one to take down Dozle, Last Shooting and rapier fight never happened
>>23327763You don't get it, Char is being LITERAL. The first Zeknova happened because Lalah teleported him away to keep him safe.
Char is saying this because he's aware he's playing on God Mode. He doesn't want Lalah to protect him constantly, so he's got to deal with her first before dealing with the Zabis.
>>23327264Well, no because they would have to do this dance again 10 or 20 years down the line when Furuya gets too old like Ikea. Let them retire in peace instead of die during a role and rush a recast. Might as well do it now with the show giving them good excuses.
>>23327831He's scared because literal freaky magic shit is happening right in front of him. Shuji just pulled a version of the RX-78 out of his asshole, and now it's coming to wreck Char.
He might not know who Amuro Ray is, but he can definitely tell "Oh shit, this guy is going to FUCK ME UP."
>>23327298>machu>heros journey>5 episodes of man-skirt-chasing and muh swim on earthNo leg to stand on here, mate.
>>23327428Why is lingerie and bedwear vile to you?
>>23327828>Gquack's Lalah also tells us that she has a recurring vision where Char is always killed by Amuro over and over againPlot twist: she's not talking about Amuro but about Shuji. Lalah from Elmeth tried to influenced the events in order for Char to survive multiple times already but Shuji always shows up to kill him which makes her give up on that universe to try again ad nauseum.
A lesson to learn here is that BITCHES IN MY GUNDAM RUINS THE SHOW
>>23327828 (me)
also Amuro doesn't exist in the Gquack's universe (as far as we know), was he purposefully purged by Lalah from her universe or just steered his Gquacks version off the events into obtaining the rx-78?
>>23327839Scarred, not scared, anon. Please go back to school.
>>23327844Shuji clearly says that she doesn't want Lalah to get hurt, but he wants to delete the Gquacks universe, if he was the pilot of the RX-78 in the "other side" UC, then he has a story prior over there with Lalah to merit and go out and hunt Char in ever timeline so Lalah doesn't sacrifice herself which will go against Lalah's wish.
>>23327428Radfem detected.
*BLAM*
anyone has a stitch of the red gundam with char and shuji?
>>23327860>roleplaying sound effectsgb2reddit
>>23327846 (Me)
Finally the unsolved knots are to list a few:
>Why or how Qquacks Char came back to his universe when the Zeknova explicitly states that it should send him to "the other side">Who is actually the voice inside the Red Gundam that Shuji always talked about, this voice also gave him the lead of where UC Lalah was sleeping, so this voice was looking for UC Lalah, maybe the voice had the same mission as Shuji? Or was Shuji bullshiting?>What has Gquack's Sayla involvement beyond that flashback with Gquack's Char
>>23327857So Shuji is the amuro of GQuacks without following the history of UC Amuro.
But it doesn't explain the beyond the time.
>>23327868It's an ancient 4channel meme from /tg/, the same way gb2 is an ancient 4channel meme but not from any specific board.
>>23327868Well about you gb2 your maker?
*cocks gun*
>>23327868<Heavy's Voice> NO!
>>23327868*BLAM* you too.
>>23326874i can handle the zeknova universe jumping stuff sure
but materializing a fully functioning uniform on a guy, just synthesizing all those atoms in the suit somehow is just... huh?
she can just imagine stuff into existence?
she just imagined this whole universe to save char and now char has to kill her to save this universe before shuro saves lalah by killing char to end the universe lalah created? what?
maybe you`d have to be japanese to understand it. i havent been this confused since final fantasy 7
in b4 someone responds with "spotted the retard"
>>23327913This is going to sound stupid but what if legitimately this universe is tied to Lalah as an actual fake? As in it is genuinely not a real place, it's in Lalah's head right as she bit the dust and drawing in energy from other universes?
>>23327763He's dunking on Haman
>>23327913Yeah, I don't get it either.
It made sense when it was as if she influenced the events in the subtle way, like Char getting "inspired" by her to go after the gundam personally.
Even Zeknovas being this chaotic event where stuff that came from the alternate realities causes space-time distortions is kinda following the rules.
But Lalah having god powers and just bending reality according to her wishes is just fucking stupid.
My good faith interpretation is that this is a sign that everything is getting out of whack as she regains conciousness but honestly I think this was an excuse to get Char into his silly red outfit for memberberries.
>>23327913The only thing that comes and crashes this is Shuji wanting to end's Lalah's universe as a mean of "saving" her.
>>23327942>But Lalah having god powers and just bending reality according to her wishes is just fucking stupid.Psychofields can rewrite reality. Banagher's psychofields could rewind time to reverse a mobile suit's reactor to before it was even built. This isn't even a new concept, and the prospect of Newtypes becoming gods is why the Federation black boxed psycommu technology and tried to hide the existence of Newtypes just in general.
>>23327843You think you soooo based because you enabled more porn made about exploited indian whore, you think you based to make her rather suck more cocks and wait for her man than get out, you think you based because of the "gotcha" for retards on internet? How many times until you finally learn: just because you can do anything doesn't mean you should! I don't even care about lalah but if you choose the child prostitute background for her, don't make it an opportunity for your perversion! People can sniff out you're being a pervert, why so many arts of girls of being whores came out after that episode, they knew your intent so they responded are you happy now
>>23327966rewinding time is one thing but materializing a full uniform on to char is far too precise and specific to make any sense... at least in any real universe.
but if this entire universe is just a dream like this guy says
>>23327929then it does make sense. but if it just a dream how are there billions of real people living in a dream and also real people from the real universe also living in lalahs fake dream universe i guess inception style
yeah i have no idea whats going on
>>23327966>unicorn gobbledygookyou lost me there, buddy
>>23327976to explain further
newtype or not reality follows laws like physics. ok so you can rewind time with whatever fantasy physics thats halfway plausible i can pretend it is anyways. but imagining into existence a fully functioning uniform down to the molecular level on a subconscious whim... thats not physical and has to be a dream
>>23327971Whores are fucking hot
I'd love to see more doujins of Lalah taking dick
Even wfm, being the shitty rushed modern fandom coded boring show that it was, was better than this dogshit of an insult.
>>23327763He should tell that to sunrise lmao. Gundam fans already moved on to other shows, UC ended in anime decades ago.
>>23327985ok me responding to myself again
maybe the merger with the mobile suit and all its computation power can simulate the uniform down to the molecules and then she newtype wills the uniform into existence pulling the atoms and energy from wherever and directs it into the information from computerized simulation on every molecule projected on to reality and... no its still retarded. i cannot make this make sense. even thinking of it like a human cyborg star trek style replicator and its still beyond a stretch.
we have gone from science fiction into the realm of completely random harry potter magic fantasy nonsense. but even in harry potter there isnt a spell that replicates an entire uniform out of the ether because thats too retarded even for any fantasy world trying to maintain some kind of vague laws of reality.
even a fictional universe needs rules if its good writing. and magically poofing a uniform into existence just breaks all rules and now its just random shit happening. only makes sense if its all a dream but even thats retarded as this dream contains real people and now we are back to magical random retardation
>>23327966>UnicornMight as well be an alt UC like Gquacks
>>23327298So the hero Machu is a Zeek in Gquuuux? Asking as an anon who doesn't watch the show but browses these threads now and then.
>>23327966>using narrative as explanationplease no
>>23328035That was from Unicorn.
>>23327966You'd think the inventor of that would get more credit or at least mention.
People talk about Einstein for discovering the concepts leading to Nukes, not the fucking pilot of the Enola Gay.
>>23327996I'm the anon with the dream theory and honestly it could simply be that Lalah willed herself into another universe and then her active manipulation led to Char getting the Gundam. Her dying wish was to protect Char after all, so maybe the reason he felt an urge to go in for the white Gundam was due to her subtle manipulation. The Zeknova at Axis would then literally be her stepping in to save him in an overt manner.
>>23328046It was considered a miracle back when Char and Amuro's psychoframes resonated and produced one, moving Axis back into stable orbit. And it also cost the two their lives. But it was reproducible, with the biggest feat after that being the Unicorn and the Banshee completely blocking the Gryps 2 colony laser beam with a multi-layered psychofield. They didn't deflect it, they filtered it away.
>>23328049willing herself into another universe where char takes the gundam i can buy. dropping a zeknova to teleport him into another universe fine ok. its the materializing a uniform randomly out of nowhere that makes all of that reality fall apart for me. its either random retardation or it was all a dream which is also retarded. all plausibility, which i am willing to be generous with, fell out the window when she pulled a uniform out of the ether and materialized it on to char, its too much. now its all random magic that cannot follow any plausible internal consistency aka bad writing. unless the 12th episode somehow makes this make sense and i doubt it will because there is no explanation for that
>>23328058I dunno man you're awfully worked up over making a uniform out of nowhere when Newtype shit can literally travel back in time. I don't see how the power to warp reality to the point of universe traversal and Zeknovas is plausible, but manipulating atoms around someone so they look like how you remember them isn't (especially when right next to that person and after getting Honey Pack'd by a nearby Psycommu).
If you dislike Newtype magic shit that's fine but I'm confused as to what makes one less plausible than the other.
>>23328058Comoli describes Zeknovas as the interaction where the boundaries between universes break down, and matter-energy flow from one universe to the other. This interaction produces the "kira-kira", inducing a Newtype's cognitive abilities to peak as a byproduct. Hence the addictive high. It's possible Lalah, with her zenith of Newtype abilities, was able to use the matter-energy reaction to reformat things to her will, even something as simple as an officer's uniform.
I'm not following this shit at all anymore
>Zeknova is a wormhole thing that tranfers matter/information between parallel universes
>they claim all previous Zeknovas have transferred things away from the show's verse
>but Char just warped from place to place inside this universe during the OYW Zeknova because he and the red Gundam are clearly still here
>Shuji's random Zeknova on Side 6 turned him into a ghost for some reason and warped the red Gundam inside the Gando Rowa
>A Baoa Qu got warped into another dimension? is there a parallel world where an extra A Baoa Qu and a huge Zeek fleet randomly appear in space?
>Elmeth!Lalah and time janny ghost Shuji can apparently summon Zeknova at will and warp in the RX-78-2 from the original timeline to set things right
>except it's not actually the original timeline since Amuro never kills Char in the ORIGINAL original timeline so we're still one parallel universe deep
>and they play Beyond the Time despite both the characters and the Gundam being very specifically 0079 OYW versions
>we still have no clue who sent Machu text messages or what the fuck is up with Haro
>and Char smells like Shuji so they're the same somehow?
>but Shuji is actually just a regular newtype kid from this show's verse, just possessed by Elmeth!Lalah, so he can't be an alternate universe Char/Amuro/whatever
make it make sense
>>23328083It's very simple.
All of this is, basically, Lalah's dream. In this dream, she is God. The Zeknova previously happened because Lalah wanted to keep Char safe, so she teleported him out of a predicament he couldn't hope to escape from.
Zeon has a superweapon that is artificially inducing Zeknovas as a space-time gun.
It's a dream where the dreamer is in a coma, and the people in the dream are beginning to realize how fragile their existence is.
>>23326813If they want me to move beyond '79 they need to actually make something better than '79.
>>23328064traversing universes or going back in time is like a blunt force thing. you dump enough energy through your newtype powers and you portal somewhere ok fine, sure. but manifesting a full uniform is a level of atomic precision beyond comprehension that goes beyond willpower and raw energy. theres like a trillion trillion molecules that have to go in the right place to form a uniform.
>>23328068sure. and kira kira being a kind of swirling chaos i can understand. even bluntly teleporting shit as a natural side effect of the kira kira manipulation ok fine. but formatting a full uniform is just well and truly beyond any imaginable plausibility and totally random. pulling a uniform from another universe and then he has to put it on himself would have been weird but ok plausible. she just materialized the uniform around him no thats too much.
internal consistency, some kind of physics, a rules based universe. thats still something you can hold on to with some teleporting or whatever. the full uniform perfectly materializing on to his body is just random, its just MAGIC and its not science fiction or even science fantasy anymore. its just random magic and nothing has to make any sense by any rules
>>23327395TFA is bad, but it didn't kill the franchise. Neither will Qucks. TLJ on the other hand.
>>23328097What if she just portal'd the clothes onto his body? Like somewhere out there Char's just naked in his Zaku wondering where the fuck his clothes went.
The one piloting it is actually Kira, that's why kira-kira not being translated was important.
>>23328126still though, get it even half a mm off and now he has the uniform painfully embedded in his own skin. how did she so precisely teleport those clothes perfectly on to the moving target of his body. pulling a uniform from another universe is ok (still weird though) but only if he still has to put it on himself.
Lalah changing Char's uniform is completely fine.
watching zeta makes all the references land
GOD that scene with Char and Kycilia in the theater was amzing holy crap
>>23328148No, it's fine.
Mind over matter.
>>23328143I mean Lalah specifically wants to keep him safe so maybe that's taken to consideration.
Ngl anon as inane of a point as it is I can respect your autistic fixation on the intricacies of making clothes versus transporting matter to different universes and selecting individuals as sacred untouchable paragons in that universe.
Battle of the millennium.
I'm confused, I expected Axis and the Nu Gundam coming through.
I CLAPPED WHEN I SAW GUNDAM!!!
CHALLIA BULL!!!!
HAMBRABI!!!!
BEYOND THE TIME!!!!!!!
I LOVE MARVEL MULTIVERSE BULLSHIT!!
>>23328177Same, I'm glad you and I are colleagues on this topic. Multiversal shenanigans are highly enjoyable and seeing the differences between timelines has been a genuine delight. Who would've ever thought Challia Bull would be a main character, the Braw Bro would get a mobile suit mode, and he'd style in it?
>>23328167its just that i want science fiction and any newtype powers need to be inserted in such a way as to still entertain the idea that its a rules based universe with some kind of internal consistency. it needs to be plausible. it can be mysterious in the sense that the science to explain it isnt in our universe and maybe not in theirs either, the same way dark matter is in real life, we cant really explain it but maybe one day we can.
but it cant be random magic, this isn`t harry potter or a magical girls anime where nothing has to make any sense. sailor moon waves her magic wand and a uniform appears on her somehow ok fine, its not a science fiction, its just a dumb random magical show i dont have to watch. but bringing gundam down to that level of random magic? no im not digging it. teleporting into other universes ok but im drawing the line at materializing a uniform on to someones body thats too random and too magical and too implausible to entertain.
>>23328178It's not Challia Bull though
It's a fucking ship of Theseus character
Completely different appearance, and completely different personality
>>23328191It is Challia Bull if he didn't look 50 years old and survived the One Year War. Even in previous extended universe materials he tried to connect to Amuro instead of kill him, once he learned he was a Newtype and a teenager. A different set of circumstances can cause one to develop into a very different person.
>>23326661 (OP)>whatThe timeline is healing.
>whyBecause having zeeks win OYW is the Bad End.
>howSpace magic, nigga. Have you never watched a UC show before???
>>23327586>>The gundam will be animated to replicate the look of the original show.LET'S DO THIS
Possible reference to ep.12's title:
That's Why I Am..... On The Path to "Gundam" (ใ ใใๅใฏโฆใใฌใณใใ ใใธใฎ้) is also the title for Tomino's 1st autobiography, published in 1981.
GOD, this entire show really is Khara basically saying thank you to Tomino for...well, everything he did for mecha and them specifically.
Anno wouldn't have made EVA if Tomino didn't make Victory and Ideon...and Khara is really writing a love letter to HIM specifically since Tomino is a very mortal old japanese man who might not be with us for much longer.
Why is Shuji ending the world that Lalah created when he said he's protecting her?
>>23328186Talk as much shit as you like about Witch from Mercury but at least its newtype bullshit and ghosts made sense by being grounded within that universe's technology.
I don't think the Muv Luv anime was that bad anymore
>>23328238Isn't the issue that they kind of didn't in the end? You get stuff like Elan 4's ghost in the finale, even though he shouldn't exist as one in the sense of WfM's digital "ghosts".
Everything that have been theorised just got crushed but I'm loving it. This is peak fanservice gundam. Anyone calling this slop that has actually seen UC never truly liked UC in the first place.
>>23328261Did you copy and paste this from Reddit
>>23328261It's key jangling and it's cheap and dumb.
>>23328261Itโs real life human beings acting like this wasnโt one of the greatest episodes in anime history, just tryna be different so bad
>>23328261This is peak slop gundam. Anyone calling this good that has actually seen UC never truly liked UC in the first place.
>>23328261Very much with you. I'm so over seeing people who have only watched WFM or IBO complaining about pacing and being lost. This is just Khara doing Rebuild of Gundam 1.11, that's all it ever was going to be. I'm absolutely loving it for what it is. I just rewatched all of UC last year, and it hits DIFFERENT with context. To me, the entire show feels like the point is subverting expectations of classic Gundam. If you have no frame of reference for UC then you're missing half of the damn show.
>>23328278This should've been an OVA/ONA sliced more into pieces. It's trying to take its cake and eat it too. That's why it's getting so slammed.
>>23328285i think you're taking this show too seriously.
>>23328278>This is just Khara doing Rebuild of Gundam 1.11>the entire show feels like the point is subverting expectations of classic GundamYou have no idea how dreadful this sounds.
>>23328278If you have no knowledge of UC this does not function as a story at all.
I think it had some nice ideas but it got completely demolished by trying to force it into 12 eps when the story has way too much going on for this little amount of time.
And the issue isn't that I'm confused or lost, just that everything happens to fast that it has no impact. A lot of the story hinges on the relationship between the main trio when there's barely anything there.
>>23328093that doesn't answer any questions
unless you're saying "it's dream logic it's not meant to make sense"
I love how Char being so indifferent towards the sudden magical girl change of his clothing. This is so fucking stupid holy shit.
>>23328295Speaking on this, the old Zeon ceremonial rifle he and Kycilia have is very odd. It has a very thick trigger, can be hip fired with one hand, and is apparently a beam weapon? The GFreD's i-field deflected Kycilia's shot.
>>23328227Someone answer me
>>23328318Nobody knows yet, anon.
>>23328221>possible referencethat's the exact reference. also there was a special on tomino that played on tv right before this episode aired.
>>23328227he's in love with that lalah and is angry at char for forsaking her love so he's going to destroy it all.
>>23328033No. She's caught up in some factional wars within Zeon, but she's explicitly not a zeek.
There's currently two RX-78-2s in play which is making things more confusing. One is the 'Red Gundam', which is this universe's native equivalent of the OG Gundam. Char successfully stole it in this universe's version of the events in the first episode of the original show.
As of the last ten seconds of the most recent episode we also seem to have the literal original Gundam in play, in its original art style and seemingly pulled over from the 'regular' UC timeline. Who fucking knows.
>>23328286If you don't take anything seriously in life how the fuck do you function?
If you don't like Gquuuuuuuux, please don't show up in /m/.
This is a Machu board!
>>23328350no matter how much you glaze her she still wont fuck you dude. thats what the gundam is telling me
>>23328360Don't care, still Machu board!
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>>23328261Nah.
I've had at least 5 theories.
>Shuji is a teleporting barely corporeal Newtype entity/m/ laughed at me when I posted it, and this one came true
Don't ask me how I knew
>The Metasyntactic placeholder names QuuuuuuX and FreD were used because this is an Eva show and those are (symbolically not literally) Eva units - this is not Khara's take on Gundam, it's Sunrise's take on EvaDoesn't exactly need confirmation, but I half suspect the man himself Tomino to be involved, which would make Anno washing his hands of all but two episodes, while everyone thinks he's the genius behind it, quite funny
This detail is yet to be confirmed
>Shirouzu is CCA Char and CCA Amuro will arrive at the end of the show: they arrived in the GQuuuuuuX universe via the Axis Shock, which is the same phenomenon this universe is calling the ZeknovaHalf disproven. Shirouzu Char lacks the scar and probably is just the GQuuuuuuX universe version of Char. I only held this theory at all because I literally never noticed CCA Char's scar. In fact I'm not entirely sure it was in my universe's version of CCA until it got overwritten.
Who is piloting the RX-78?
>The RX-78 is the Nu-Gundam, overwritten by Lalah's will to perceive Amuro how she remembers himWe'll find out next episode
>GQuuuuuuX is going to give the Lalah frozen in the Elmeth a happy endingThis is a theory I've had since episode 2, based both on the reddit posts from an artist who worked on the show calling it a love story, and the contents of episode 2.
When Lalah at the Kabas house appeared I thought it would be her that gets the happy ending, and then original Lalah appeared in the same episode.
We'll find out next week.
>>23328363she should have stayed in that zeon whorehouse where she belonged
>>23328191>>23328197This. Even in U.C. Engage, which all the extra story bits are really good even if the gameplay is shit, he goes out of his way to ease up on Amuro and try to connect/talk to Amuro.
But it's no instant connection like Lalah, so Amuro is in bloodthirsty must defend the WB crew from the enemy MA mode, and dusts him and doesn't even realize Chalia was trying to talk to him.
>>23328368no, the lalah in the kebas house is giving the happy endings
>>23328126Its the clothes after Char took them off for the alst time in the main timeline.
Its what happened to them when he went full Quattro. Now we finally know.
lalah can see the future and knows when you`re about to pop and slows down just in time so she can edge you for hours. the real reason she didnt want to leave the zeon whorehouse is because she loves making men squirm and beg for release.
>>23328368>Shuji is a teleporting barely corporeal Newtype entityI thought he was an entity spawned out of red gundam's psycommu
>this is not Khara's take on Gundam, it's Sunrise's take on EvaSunrise's take on Eva when all the executive positions are occupied by nonSunrise people. Big brain.
>Who is piloting the RX-78?Shuji, obviously.
>this is not Khara's take on Gundam, it's Sunrise's take on Eva>The RX-78 is the Nu-Gundam, overwritten by Lalah's will to perceive Amuro how she remembers himIt's the RX-78 summoned by Shuji and probably empowered by time jannie powers because it's the bane of Char, it's what kills him in the other timelines,
And he wants to kill Char because his existance is what ties frozen Lalah, who is Shuji's mother, to this universe.
>GQuuuuuuX is going to give the Lalah frozen in the Elmeth a happy endingMaybe both of them will, but I'm certain that prostitute Lalah will get a happy ending with emo Char.
>>23328278>it doesn't need to be goodThe absolute state of GCucks.
>>23328392Not only that, but apparently only WfM and IBO fans would expect Gundam to be good.
Truly a bizarre self-own.
I saw discussion a few episodes back that this is Gundam's "Man in the High Castle." We follow a "what-if" scenario, and over time, the characters are made aware of another "what-if" scenario where events play out differently (but still not the same as we experienced them since Amuro kills Char).
wasnt Amuro's kid with Beltochika supposed to be a powerful NT? what if this is his world?
>>23328392>>23328396That dude didn't say that.
>>23328389>Sunrise's take on Eva when all the executive positions are occupied by nonSunrise people. Big brain.Apparently it was Sunrise execs who requested the GFred to have Eva 01's colors
>>Who is piloting the RX-78?>Shuji, obviously.Amuro has been noticeably absent the whole show, and to me it feels like they've been building to him showing up in this universe since Ep 2.
>Lalah is Shuji's momI think I'd put money on Shuji being an unknown element who never really gets explained.
Also
I am going to venture a guess that Char is confused about who Shuji is really posessed by. It's not Lalah: Shuji keeps saying "the gundam says" and by this he is referring to Amuro in the original Gundam - other anons have already pointed this one out. He never refers to the Red Gundam as "the Red Gundam". Amuro is controlling Shuji.
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>>23328416why would amuro control someone
>>23328426Because he has been "noticeably absent" and he HAS TO appear so we need to invent retarded roles that make no sense for him to play.
>>23328317It can be hip fired with one hand because it it literally mounted to the hip, same as it was in 0079.
>>23328426Same reason as Lalah: because the plot demands it.
>>23328368Tomino is happily working on Himiko Yamato with his friends far away from anything Gundam related, there is no chance he had anything at all to do with this show
>>23328426Control is maybe a strong way of putting it. Amuro is psychically communicating with Shuji, and he's willingly cooperating. Much like Kamille coordinating everyone after he recovers in ZZ.
the GQuuuuuuX universe is a bardo/purgatory, created by Amuro, to heal Char's broken soul. The "other side" of the axis shock, created when Amuro realized how badly he needed Lalah
Anyone have that White Devil greentext? about how the Zeon pilot saw the Gundam animation bend reality itself.
I must ask: if we get another SD Gundam G Generation game that's Universal Century only, will this be included? I base this on how G Generation Spirits and G Generation Genesis have both the Mobile Suit Z Gundam compiliation movies and Mobile Suit Gundam ZZ.
>>23328529Thank you anon. May your day grow bright and you earn happiness here and forever more.
>>23328191his whole backstory about being stranded on his jupiter mission is a retcon that happens before the point of divergence (Char seizing the gundam) too
>>23327763Are we going to get a gundam version of this scene?
>>23326904Take off the backpack and Providence is a fat goth RX-78
>>23328447>The "other side" of the axis shock, created when Amuro realized how badly he needed LalahI'm confused by what you mean by this. What do you mean "other side"?
>>23328648I thought the psycho was fat goth rx-78
>>23328575Anno is legitimately the biggest hack on the planet. I don't understand how people can stomach this drivel
>>23328416No one's piloting the Gundam. Shuji is the gundam.
>>23326707Shuji is Kamile
>>23328654Psycho is RX-78 with gigantism, it's still proportionate as well
>>23327375At least GQ has some nice mech designs, including top tier nostalgia wank like Gyan finally becoming something more than chivalry Zaku.
>>23328741>auto-postNu-Wars' mechanical designs have massively regressed, and hold no continuity either.
>>23326661 (OP)I don't give a flying fuck about Machu nor Nyaan, I'm jist here for the Charwank and the MEMBERRIES
>>23328561The point of divergence happened way before that, though. It goes at least as far back as the beginning of Project V, given the drastically different design of the Gundam.
>>23329081I think that's just artstyle, and that the white and red gundams are still the same functionally speaking.
To put it another way it's how the post timeskip characters in Gquuuuuux are still as human as the pre timeskip ones and the ones from the other world
>>23329094It's not just artstyle now that the main universe Gundam showed up, and doesn't look anything like the RX-78-2 in GQ. It's very clearly a different mobile suit design. If it was just "this is what the Gundam looks like now", then they'd both look that way.
Of course, the split has to go even further back, since the Zakus look like they do. I doubt it's going to matter plot-wise though.
>>23329107I mean that they are supposed to be the same mobile suit with the same blueprint made in the same factory by the same engineers, but rendered in different art styles existing simultaneously. This isn't the first time gundam's did that either since the OYW flashbacks in Zeta were reused footage that had the same artstyle as MSG, it isn't indicative that the artstyle switch is an tangible in-universe change that happened in the years between those shows
>>23327763That's fucking hypocritical so it's on-brand for the king hypocrite himself.
>>23327971>an opportunity for your perversionThe fuck is the whore supposed to wear in a whorehouse, a nun outfit?
>they think the RX782 is going to sweep the Gqux cast when they have an RX782 that is fucking red and therefore 3 times fucking faster
Amateurs.
>>23327429>>23327429i can imagine shugi being amuro and chan agi merged/distorted beyond the time, i imagine the rx-78-2 looks that way due to lalah's distortion and has the same spec as the gqux gundams but is actually the nu
or it's all alternate versions and not directly tied to the originals
really could be anything even a gender-swapped chan agi but then there'd have to be an femuro in the gundam and i'm pretty sure it's going to be shugi piloting the rx-78-2, which leads me back to amuro x chan agi
can't wait for whatever space magic bullshit they came up with
i honestly like gqux, it's fun
good thread anons
this has been a frustrating franchise experiment and a mess of a show on its own from many, many different angles but a lot of my personal problems with it finally feel a bit eased near the end seeing people actually fucking talk about this shit's lost potential and predictable final pandering as a whole with less blind tourist vs entrenched fanatic tribalism bullshit
here's to an actual good new original fucking gundam ever again after these two redheads
>zoomers pissing and shitting themselves: the thread
What a bunch of babies.
>>23327686Tomino also said bringing in Syd Mead for Turn A was a mistake
So he can sit and spin for all I care
>>23327241Tomino gave him a method acting role
>>23327497Newtype mind download, CCA char got shoved into the body of his younger self, as did Amuro who decided to dye his hair blue and just let the federation lose out of spite
>>23331651he loves Mead's designs, he just thought it might have made the show less accessible to jap viewers since they are "weird" designs by a westerner
>>23326813what if it's about how people are unable to move beyond Tomino's 0079
>>23326874GQ Char has figured a lot of things out about The Rose and her reality and what she wants and he hates it
>>23332874Then every staff member at Khara has their head up their ass
>>23332874"stop obsessing over the thing you're watching" is such a trite, weasely message
>>23327116them showing you his forehead is establishing that it isn't CCA Char
>>23328295he's been yanked around by Lalah for like five years now
>>23333015no, no, what if the message is "we can't get over 0079, it's here to kick our ass" and doesn't say any judgement on if moving on is correct, just that they are unable to
>>23333017>no, no, what if the message is "we can't get over 0079, it's here to kick our ass" and doesn't say any judgement on if moving on is correct, just that they are unable toEven so, that would be trite and weasely of Sunrise and Khara.
As a fan of Gundam and sci-fi in general I look forward to interesting new experiences.
G-Reco did this for me, it has a ton of interesting things to say and basically stands completely apart from Gundam. Almost a completely original work.
If the creators of GQuuuuuuX aren't able to move on from 0079, that's their problem, not mine.
>>23331047I haven't been this excited for and let down by an anime in a long, long time. Maybe since Valvrave S2, back in 2013.
Question to every anon who's stuck around to this point: how do you *want* GQuuuuuuX to end?
>>23333048I honestly can't say.
I think my tastes are offbeat. I'm an artist.
On the one hand, as a romantic, I kinda want GQuuuuuuX to be an about giving Char a happy ending. He's an incredibly broken man at the end of CCA. This show has established the idea of the Zeknova as creating a portal between the main timeline and the GQ-verse, and it's brought back original Lalah asleep like an enchanted princess waiting for her prince. All the story/plot mechanics have been set up to have Char and Lalah spiritually reunited. I'm also frankly kind of a fan of the idea of a platonic yuri ending between Machu and Nyaan, only because they're both delusional in their attraction to Shuji and have had more interactions with each other than with him. Honestly that whole trio is not compelling. I don't really care much for any of them as they are now. Shuji could still have some interesting reveals, but him dying makes the most sense to me for the sake of the girls as characters. I want Amuro to show up and be cool.
But this show has also reawakened my taste for pain. I would not mind some kind of traumatic ending. I'm not sure what they could do exactly that would make this show horrible, maybe killing Lalah again, maybe treating Amuro like Luke in The Last Jedi, maybe making Shuji a pure force for unjustifiable evil who leaves everyone worse off and gets away with it, cucking Char forever, etc. etc. etc.
but i also just don't know if i care that much with what the show is now. It's been great fun, very frustrating, a great move by Sunrise to get new people interested in the old shows, but I don't know if I'll think about it much more after its over. Unless they manage to do something crazy.
>>23333048Kill yourself duel.