Is there any other people who have recently gotten in to Gundam and watching for the first time or anyone looking for a rewatch of UC shows?

Through Gquacks I've become interested in gundam and it's been really fun going through all the UC based shows after it. I thought it would be fun to discuss and theorize with anyone else who might be watching for the first time. 40 years of content is pretty intimidating to try and work through.

I really was surprised how much I ended up liking kamille and bright noa's characters.

>>23407269 (OP)
I'm also going through UC for the first time. Currently I'm being filtered by ZZ and its classic nipponese comedy.

>>23407340
A lot of Tomino's works are comedic at the start like early ZZ I dunno why it's such a hurdle for people

>>23407340
I understand exactly what you moreso if you really liked Kamille. ZZ just feels so off

>>23407354
ZZ is a hurdle i feel not so much for the comedy, but rather the complete change of vibe in the MC. if you just watch zeta and start on ZZ you just watched the MC mind break, Char is no where to be found, You start with comedy and immediately you think "but what happened to kamille? who the fuck are these people?" It's not the comedy but the characters and the opening writing of zz. I couldn't get over that in ZZ.

>>23407362
>but what happened to kamille?
Kamille is right there nigger.

I'm game honestly for doing an /m/ rewatch. We should also pick up the obscure stuff as well.

>>23407371
Which shows would you consider obscure?

>>23407354
My main issue is that the jokes aren't really landing and there's not much interesting going on. Also, whilst I don't hate Judau, he's definitely a step down from Kamille.
>>23407362
>moreso if you really liked Kamille
Yeah, as I said above, I really liked Kamille. Easily one of the best protags from any show I've watched recently.

>>23407386
the theme park ones. let's be honest probably igloo and evolve too

Oh man. I forgot about Gquacks.

>>23407269 (OP)
Interesting timing for a thread. I finished a rewatch of 0079 (about my fourth or so) and a rewatch of Zeta (my second) a short while ago, showing them to a friend who was seeing them for the first time. We'll be headed on to ZZ soon.

>>23407340
I personally really enjoyed ZZ when I watched it for the first time, I took others' advice of taking a break of about a month or so between Zeta and ZZ. It's been longer since finishing Zeta again, I'm sorry about the whiplash.

Overall, honestly I am just glad to see you guys watching /m/ stuff. It's a cool genre and there's tons of cool stuff to see. Peace on earth and goodwill to /m/en.

>>23407395
It's a bit hard to keep track with novels, manga, ova etc. It's confusing to keep the narrative straight like how cca is based of the novels.
are you talking about this?
https://gundam.fandom.com/wiki/Mobile_Suit_Gundam_MS_IGLOO:_The_Hidden_One_Year_War

>>23407401
Great timing for a thread then! they're free to come in and join. I'd love for this to be a thread where someone who just watched x.y.z can come in and post their thoughts and feelings on things as they work the series.

When I recently watched 0079 and I had a whole bunch of thoughts on Amuro's characterization during the middle but didn't feel like sharing or get shit on because "you should know xyz happened"

>>23407362
>but what happened to kamille? who the fuck are these people?
I know most people skip episode 1 because it's 99% a preview/recap but the one scene that actually takes place after the final Zeta episode (with reused animation lol) literally has Bright say "Kamille is unresponsive so we have to hurry to a hospital in Side 1"

>>23407340
the start of zz is really good. it's the middle part when it starts to become a slog. it gets good again near the last 10 episodes. tomino shows always end with some banger episodes

I'm up to episode 5 of first series. It's been growing on me but my favourite part so far is still the technology.

Episode 6 was great.

>>23407415
i wish we got more stuff that takes place in the first 8 months of the war where it was mobile suits vs conventional warfare.

>>23407986
I can't deny the mass appeal of shower char. Nice to see you, I'll start with 6 as well then

Episode 7 Fuck old people and fuck Kai.
>>23408113
Sweet

>>23409990
>fuck Kai.
Kai did nothing wrong.

>>23409990
bright is a lot younger and competent than I expected. He's only 19 in the 0079 series with less than a year of service. I kept thinking bright was around 26-30. For him to be a taii for both young in experience and in age means he was most likely a prodigy. He's quick on his feet, perceptive, and level headed. I actually really think him and char are more parallels than amuro. they're also both hot

Kai is really annoying. He acts like your typical shitty unmotivated coworker who thinks they are the best in their unit and hate people for no reason.

>>23407269 (OP)
I used to watch MSG compilation, and then Zeta and ZZ. Right now I'm rewatching them starting with proper 0079 series instead of compilation.

>>23410131
I joined another anon on their watch so we're on ep 7 now, we're trying for one episode a day if you want to start there?

I feel like the compilation movies /zeta new translation are completely different experiences than the show. although more so in zeta new translation. looking forward to reading any thoughts you have

>>23410140
Last episode I watched was episode 4, currently I'm finishing 00 rewatch. Might join in soon.

>>23410088
Kai is a jerk and he has a jerk face.
>>23410124
All I knew was slap memes so I expected him to be a hardass not a guy freaking out all the time. Love it.

>>23410247
>Kai is a jerk and he has a jerk face.
He is merely responding reasonably to his unreasonable situation.

>>23410140
My only experience with compilations are 0079, SEED and G-Reco. 0079 feels like a movie and I see why people recommend it, pacing feels natural. SEED however is the worst, even if I like the montage of Kira fighting, spliced with him having sex with Flay with Zips playing. But it was so breakneck I decided to say fuck it, Imma watch SEED and suffer through Hiraiface.

>>23407269 (OP)
I've been rewatching zeta since it's been almost a decade since I watched it and zz. I didn't rewatch 0079 after gquuuuuux but I did think about it, instead I just watched the few episodes lalah is in

Skip Victory and X, Victory is ungodly and X is a snoozefest, also FUCK D.O.M.E. the n word is absolutely needed, wtf else would you call them? They literally exist.

>>23407269 (OP)
I found a person going through Gundam for the first time on /v/ a while back. I'm at Victory at the moment but i have no problem talking about stuff. If you want you can leave a steam ID or something.

>>23410349
He's being far more mean than he needs to be.

>>23410708
Groomer alert.

>>23410616
I mean, DOME outright calls them mutants. The issue with "Newtype" is that it's a word with pre-existing meaning and expectations that was thrown onto them once they appeared (which also matches up with Newtype theory or expectation of human space evolution coming before Newtypes themselves in UC), the whole idea of a superior enlightened and evolved human or even a divine savior.

>>23410931
Oh, for sure, but what I appreciate about Kai is that he won't be quiet about his resentment over being forced into the role of a combatant, even when he knows that he still has to fight to survive. It makes him abrasive, but it's nice to have a clear voice of dissent among the main cast.

>>23411035
Oh he's definitely an ass and abrasive as you said. I think my problem with him is that having someone like that on your team in war would just make me want to dump them because of how they might defect.
I get the character they were going for but they could've done it in ways that don't make you want to kill the dude yourself

Pick one.

>>23410934
In all seriousness i was being geniuine

Episode 8 time now

>>23411324
Nta but just post it here. Suggesting off site is weird out of context

>>23411358
Its just how i've done it before. Actually can't you use xyz for streaming and get a chat room going? I remember how they did it back on /v/ when they did megaman NT warrior streaming. You could turn this into an event.

>>23411362
Sorry this is what i meant.
cytu dot be
You can use this. I'm down for a watchalong

>>23411362
Personally I was thinking for somewhere to write out my theories with other people who have only just watched to the show because people are quick shit up threads or tell you how to watch something. I would rather stop in and read an Anon's fresh opinion and reply on mine and their own time rather than try to go through a stream of consciousness. you don't need to make events out of everything and just let people post in their own time. /m/ is slow there is no need for constant activity.

I'm also old and miss forums any other anon is more than free to start a new thread for a live watch session.

>>23411384
Based, fuck vedditors.

>>23411373
one thing that's worked outside of "okay everybody here at 8p" is you can rig your channel to have say, two episodes of Ideon on a loop and change them out once a week (or one a day or whatever), and people can tag along at their own pace and discuss back here

https://desuarchive.org/m/thread/15785248/
here's an example of how an Ideon groupwatch went that was largely successful

>>23411443
>>23411455
OP already said they don't like this kind of thing. Thanks for the info

>>23411443
Finding eps shouldn't be an issue. I've just been watching on youtube.

Episode 8: RIP St. Anges. Goodbye hopefully forever, old man. Char seems like a great friend.

Not recently for Gundam itself since I grew up on Wing and then Seed/00 ect, but I recently finished watching all of UC and the 90s AU shows like X. Holy shit Cosmo Babylonia and Zanscare are so evil it's hard to take them seriously.
0079 actually ended up becoming my favourite show of the entire franchise, amd Amuro and Char are god damn amazing characters in 0079. X became one of my favorites too, Jamil is a fantastic character, Garrod is fun and Tiffa is adorable.

>>23410616
You misunderstand, Dome isn't denouncing Newtype powers. Dome is saying that there's no magical god race that will usher in paradise though their magic enlightenment, and that if humans want to bring about a better world, rhey must do it themselves and not wait for a magic messiah. Jamil says that he's just an ordinary human with PTSD, not Jesus Yamato, same with Lancerow. Dome uses Garrod as an example of what really matters, going against fate and fighting for a better future.

>>23411241
I do get where you're coming from, but I think in the long-run he ends up working well. It helps that he gets some of the best episodes in 0079 as spotlight eps.

>>23411805
I've been thinking about a bit earlier when amuro is doing his first battles with char.
Char doesn't doesn't know how to react because Amuro is not acting like the people who fought before. he's used to planned battles while amuro is just a tech otaku. I'm suprised with how much amuro loves tech in general they never made some sort of spin off of amuro working and building various suits considering the level of detail he goes in to explaining to his team. (unless they did but it's hard to find in the hundreds of spin offs kek). I think I would like amuro as a character more if i saw him autistically harping on about his special interest.
Char seems to pilot but amuro understands the fundamental way the tech moves. I'm curious to see if that really affects any future battles compared to 'newtype' status.

>>23407354
>A lot of Tomino's works are comedic at the start like early ZZ I dunno why it's such a hurdle for people
I don't know what the fuck you are talking about when only daitarn 3, xabungle and ZZ starts like that.
even the lighter shows like gainer and turn-A starts in a serious tone, everything else he did starts with a melancholic atmosphere right from episode 1.

>>23407269 (OP)
It's 40 years of content but the meat and potatoes of it is MSG + Zeta + CCA, everything else you want is a dessert or side dish tbqhwyfam
>>23407340
You can honestly skip ZZ and miss almost nothing of value. After 20+ episodes of garbage the show gets decent, then improves a lot in the final arc but you can honestly skip a fuckton of episodes and not miss anything of value either. Be prepared for everyone you like from Zeta Gundam to act retarded and the new cast to fuck each other over time and time again then face no consequences whatsoever.
>Whoops I betrayed the crew and used the other MS pilot as a human shield again
>>23407354
Xabungle and Daitarn 3 execute the comedy fantastically and don't have the baggage of "this is a sequel to a show where 90% of the cast anhero'd 2 weeks ago"
>>23408087
idk man just watch Dougram instead
>>23412315
I think Turn-A balances the comedy, serious and melancholy perfectly. I really wish G-Reco maintained the same atmosphere

>>23410960
>>23411824
At the point they have reached in X, there have been multiple newtypes, none of which have god like wisdom. Newtypes literally are mutated humans, they are humans that have genetic mutations which is how evolution happens. The physical properties of a new type do seem “god like” in comparison to human abilities, but they have interacted with newtypes enough to understand that newtypes do not have “god like” wisdom. Regardless, they are a distinct group of beings, and thus need a word to describe them, much like autism describes a wide range of disorders, you can be an elon musk “super genious” or a barely conscious tard who can only scream and bang his head again a wall repeatedly.
To censor a word, especially one in common parlance, purely because you disagree with it ideologically is stupid and doesn’t even work as another word will appear to describe the thing the old word covered.
If DOME had a problem with people regarding newtypes as Gods, then all he needed to do was say Newtypes are not gods, they just are more evolved than normies in regards to fighting, not ban words like a janny.

>>23412345
Dome was arguing that since there's thousands of different races with dark skin you should never use the N word for any of them because it's uncouth and also gets you range banned outside of /b/

>>23410124
In general the Japanese are weird about age, you see it everywhere.

>>23412442
I don't know, I mean you look at disney movies back when and everyone is like 14 too.

>>23410616
Victory is ok, just a bit heavy on the repetitive misery porn at times
X is good, /m/'s weird relationship with it is funny

>>23412627
Anyone who enjoys victory should unironically kill themselves

>>23412699
based anno hater.

>>23412627
>Victory is ok
>X is good
>>>>>>>>misery porn
Go back zoomer.

>>23412274
Amuro starts as a techie carried by his machine while char is a pilot dragging his inferior zaku to superiority. By the end their piloting abilities and their machines relative powers will be quite different I can assure you. amuro will be the one dragging the Gundam to the finish line in the end

It's like people don't read the op before replying. Bunch of faggots in here

>>23412345
Yeah, I do agree that the show words it wrongly, that one line is sort of dumb. But the conversation that followed the "Newtypes don't exist" line is about the "newtypes will/ will not make a new world utopia" context and not about them actually existing.

>>23407269 (OP)
yeah actually, just got through the slog that was ZZ and man i'm honestly kinda annoyed that kamille got better at the end
if he'd stayed brain damaged then at least i'd understand him not doing anything about char's uprising in CCA, but as is he's a complete no-show when he really should be involved in the situation, if only just to yell at quattro for being a retard again
it's the same with sayla but at the very least there's a few excuses with her (her not piloting for ages, meta reasons to do with her VA), kamille's evidently too busy running around on beaches with fa to even bother dropping him a voice message
also elle's better than roux and she deserves better than beecha, awkwardly waving off all the chemistry she had with judau to put her with that dickhead was a shit move when they didn't adequately set roux up with judau at all

>>23413728
That's the problem I had myself until I looked into the production. So apparently cca is based off a novel and in those novels kamille never gets better but rather he commits suicide (?) before fa gets to him at the end of z. I feel like they should have really made some type of scene in why kamille never shows up in cca because even with new translation you wonder why the fuck he never did anything.
I love kamille deeply but never stating cca is not a continuation of the show but rather the novel series is a great misfortune on the understanding of the series of a whole. I haven't read the novels yet but I'm sure committing suicide had to hurt worse to char and led him off the deep end then in the show and in ZZ. I like kamille getting better though in ZZ and later being a doctor in one of the manga though.

It's incredibly frustrating and feels like nothing makes sense with what you know in the show. So is kind of like what was the fucking point of cca and/or ZZ if it doesn't matter? Cca doesn't make sense with zz and cca doesn't make sense with the ZZ narrative.

>>23414052
Kamille never wanted to be a soldier. He was never given a rank in zeta and he was obviously hurt deeply by the lives he took and friends he lost in the gryps war, even if he felt the aeug was the just faction. It makes sense that he'd have nothing to do with the fighting in CCA - he can't support char's insane plan, he felt amuro was a disappointment, and he was never a federation regular so he couldn't exactly ask to remain with bright and crew once the conflict was over. He matured from the kid who wanted to make the titan bullies feel the fear and powerlessness he felt when he stole the mk.2. If anything, having him in CCA would have been a mistake since 1. the story is really about the unresolved tension between char and amuro, but also 2. the unresolved tension between the philosophies they embody. Kamille never cared about getting people off of earth (whether slowly or quickly);nor did he come to believe that newtypes were the future, so why would he be fighting for either belief? He hardly even cared about the aeug's goals beyond titans bad and fighting to survive.

>>23407269 (OP)
Not because of Gquuux specifically, but I had only watched spin-offs like G Gundam and Wing until recently, going through the original material now, mostly enjoying it.
This series' message about war is really childish I feel and it's annoying only because of how often it comes up and how the viewer is supposed to take it seriously. No, war would not suddenly stop if people could communicate and "understand" each other better, history is filled with wars between people who knew and understood each other very well. "Know your enemy" is a common saying for a reason. I get that a lot of the conflict is around how this methodology doesn't lead to peace but the shows act like it's only because individuals get in the way of that being achieved as opposed to the entire idea being unrealistic

>>23414091
This honestly has nothing to do with what I said. I said they should have included a scene from the book to explain that this is different from the series in adaptation. deciding to make it an adaptation from the novel where he suicided is a lot different for character perspectives than whatever you're talking about.

>>23414116
This in the original series is the one thing that stood out to me compared to zeta. 0079 is a lot more childish than something like zeta which is more teenager / adult. They both deal with themes about war but they both come across it in a different way and targeted to a different age range in the way that they display characterizations

>>23414052
>>23414116
Kamille only dies in Zeta novels. They are their own thing. The film is not an adaptation, but an original work and is a direct sequel to 0079 and Zeta. ZZ is kind of like a part 2 of Zeta that ties up loose ends and shows us Feds going full mask off, setting up the bleak political landscape of UC for CCA to happen.

>>23414124
Yeah, and note High Streamer is not a continuation from the novels. Just like how Zeta doesn't follow from the novel MSG ending with dead Amuro. Amuro blames Char for driving Kamille crazy when he first faces him in High Streamer. Then Char gives his line about it just proving he was weak.

>>23412345
>At the point they have reached in X, there have been multiple newtypes, none of which have god like wisdom.
And yet one of the factions fighting had an entire cult built around the idea of Newtypes being spiritually evolved beings and even the other that doesn't have that still believed they were necessary to control the future's fate. Even an heroic character like Jamil had been led by a vision he saw during the war that newtypes would lead to some kind of heavenly world. You say that he should just have said that Newtypes aren't gods, within the universe "Newtype" had all those quasi-religious presumptions associated with it you'd have with calling them "gods", it's not a neutral scientific word.

>>23414091
thing is this is kamille we're talking about. he is TOO intrinsically linked to the point in time char actually seemed to be trying to improve for once, and arguably part of the reason char decided enough was enough
it's one thing for him to be a main fighter, but at the very least he has enough importance to the conflict that someone should talk to him in the actual movie and not just a mention of him in high streamer

>>23414052
speaking of new translation, i had a quick look at that version of the ending when i finished zeta and i have to say i'm a little irritated that scirocco's attempt to mindfuck kamille just kinda... stops? they have kamille panting after they separate which could've been a good opportunity to show he actually had to fight it off but instead scirocco gets confused at the random women line and dies without doing shit, so kamille's just tired out from the fight or something i guess
just seems like a wasted opportunity

>>23414252
I think I would've even been happy with a shocked face of kamille in a hospital, grave, or just something to acknowledge his existence at all considering he was a large factor of ZZ. new translation also doesn't help at all because the ending is drastically different compared to anything else. I'm just disappointed that they had a character be such a large part of 2 series to not acknowledge his existence ever again in cca or even a cameo in gqucks even.
I'm just disappointed they make such a great character to compliment char in zeta and do absolutely nothing with him. I would argue his large emotions counter char

>>23414280
I watched the movies in succession and i wouldn't even consider them the same series. they are basically an entire series on their own as a standalone. I would think of it like an AU myself. completely different experiences.

>>23414116
Non-Tomino shows usually veer from that a bit more, with mixed results. Not all of them, 00 doubles down on it and because it's aesthetically grittier and more "modern" it went down well with people I guess.

>>23414252
>>23414281
The bigger issue is that there was no char in ZZ

So i'm supposed to believe this whole movie is not a suicide plan to get rid of himself because the weight of his name?
this is the only conclusion i get after watching the whole series in succession

>>23413728
Kamille didn't need to do anything about Char during CCA, nor was he a factor to Char at that point. Writing in him or Judau would've wasted valuable screen time for nothing. Also fuck off, Captain Beecha did nothing wrong.

>>23415529
That's basically it, except it's more like the weight of his experiences combined with having a name that people needed

>>23415890
>Captain Beecha did nothing wrong
he literally sent judau off on a suicide mission with the ZZ, throwing out their best pilot AND their best MS out of spite is about as wrong as you can get

>>23415529
He just wanted to be with lalah again

>>23415981
They all remind me of her

>>23415981
If he wanted to be with Lalah so much he could just kill himself instead of this flashy, dramatic asteroid throwing

>>23416178
Char dropped Axis with good intentions on his way out.

>>23416179
The only good intentions was the suicide murder

>>23414281
dude gets wheelchaired around by his gf what else is there left for him

>>23416178
You only go to newtype heaven if you die in battle with another newtype, he had no choice but to bait amuro into the fight

>>23416176
They say this in zeta but it always makes me wonder - amuro deliberately tried not to kill lalah but she dove in front of char to take the beam saber instead. Four, while sharing the similarity of being on the "wrong side" but having the connection with kamille, at least dies saving him from jerid. really a more comparable death is Sarah's imo. The overall idea still fits I suppose, but at least kamille tried to do what amuro couldn't and save his psychic dream girl.

>>23416685
Did you not watch ZZ or even the retcon movies?

Just started ZZ
Do shinta and qum stop being so fucking annoying? i thought i would stop seeing them after Z and they are here again

>>23416897
You'll hate Mondo and Beecha more

>>23416897
i don't understand why they have to add kids in every series.

>Mmmmn...you know what I could really go for right now? Some delicious 14 year old little boy penis, boy howdy! Mmmmn hmmmmn, eating good tonight~
And that is my summary of Mobile Suit Gundam ZZ.

>>23416897
Why didn't you find them obnoxious last season when Fa's character got railroaded into a live-in caretaker

>>23417615
In case you forgot war orphans exist

just watched stardust memories, not a big fan of nina right now

>>23417632
My run of watching ZZ ended when she successfully infiltrated the Argama and NOBODY sensed her except the one character that decided its not important enough. I'm sorry but that was the end of ZZ for me because there is no universe in which she escapes out of there unharmed. Also i am going to say it...this bitch wishes she was as cunning as Katejina.

>>23417667
I hated them but i thought they wouldn't appear in ZZ

>>23418124
Why didn't you skip the Tigerbaum episodes

>Haman is one of my favorite fictional characters of all time
>ZZ sucks and I hate it
How can I continue to live with myself?

>>23418156
i did skip it..to the end of the last episode where Haman died which was too little to late. I am kind of expecting this to happen to Chronicle and Katejina, by which i mean them dying or having conclusions too little too late to feel fulfilling.

>>23418163
the life of a haman enjoyer is painful, you must simply adapt
and read OL haman

>>23418183
I don't know why you watch Gundam at all. Fulfilling storylines has never been something this franchise can accomplish well.

just finished up hathaway's movie and i feel so bad for bright noa. he's the character that has lived through all the various wars. He's seen amuro, char, kamille. he's now going to suffer eventually knowing that his good friends have all died at the hands of char just for his son to adapt char's ideals. his son will most likely die as well. bright never wins

I also like the chart from hchcsen over on nyaa for the timelines. it's been a bit helpful.

>>23418515
oh if you think it's bad enough for bright already, just you wait for the later bits

I stayed the origin series today can this be considered 'canon'? I really like how strong we see young kycilla so far.

>>23418601
You mean later in the novel or something else?

>>23418744
later in the novel

I've watched, dropped, rewatched, dropped, went for the trilogies with 0079 for the past ten years and right now I'm barely through Zeta
This series fucking sucks ass no wonder westerners get into it with AU settings or side story OVA's

>>23418744
>I stayed the origin series today can this be considered 'canon'? I really like how strong we see young kycilla so far.
Sorta not really. All of the animated works follow from the original 1979 TV series or the 1980s movie trilogy. That said, it's not such a huge difference that you'll be totally lost if you watch the later entries, you just need to know that it's a different version of roughly similar events.

>>23418780
Yeah man, at some point you should just stop if it's not enjoyable for you. There's no point in forcing it.

>>23418754
Bright can't catch a break. This poor man. I should really read the novels but i really liked the audiobook that came with the bds for the movie

>>23418990
well I finished 0079 through hathaway movie 1. I was more looking for something that talks about what started the fighting and zeon vs zabi war. This seemed to fit the bill? So it doesn't really lead up to the start of the show but more of a parallel world?

per the second point of >>23418780 I felt that way at first. If you tried a bit of every series and it's not for you i wouldn't keep trying. I tried the non UC gundam +other mech shows big O or things like franxx and just wrote off the genre. I still am not a big fan of 0079 itself because i didn't like the vibe of the show and the pacing but adored zeta, liked gquacks. In the end i liked various points of each series and respected what they were going for. in the end what kept me interested in each series was characters like bright, kamille, and even in the origin which im watching not is the dynamics of kycilla+her family plus hamon and her romance[?] dynamics with ral. Char is a given just because you get a lot on him and it's fun to think about his trauma. I preefer the characters over the mechs. If you can't find one thing to connect on then maybe gundam itself just isn't suitable and you'll just frustrate yourself by continuing to feign interest in it

>>23418744
It's not canon, but you still have to read the whole manga to understand why G-Cucks mischaracterizes Kycilia.

>>23419079
>I was more looking for something that talks about what started the fighting and zeon vs zabi war. This seemed to fit the bill? So it doesn't really lead up to the start of the show but more of a parallel world?
Well, in general Origin tries to be a more complete version of the 0079 story in that it shows you what was going on with Side 3 politics. Previously details like that were relegated to databooks and were never animated, except for game cutscenes from things like the Gihren's Greed series of strategy games. The Origin manga (which also retells the entire 0079 story) also has some minor story and moderate lore changes, and then there's all the little minor anachronisms like the mobile suits having somewhat different technical details and numbers, etc.

The entire Origin story (the animated movies and the full manga) is not so much a parallel UC, it's mainly just considered a different version of the same 0079 story. Despite all the differences, it still follows the same major story beats that were present in 0079, and outside of Origin having its own aesthetic style, nothing is so different that would prevent it from tying into the rest of the UC world, as far as I know. Sunrise apparently mostly doesn't care - it's not as though one version of the 0079 story was declared definitive and all others were obsolete or wrong or bad. For a while it seemed like the movies were the preferred version of 0079, but then again there's plenty of side material that references the G-Fighter (only existed in the 0079 TV series) so it's not like that thing was retconned out of existence just because the movies replaced it with the Core Booster. Now there's the Origin, and Sunrise seems content to promote that as well - but not as if the 0079 TV series and movies don't exist anymore either.

>>23418744
Not really, it's Yas' own spin on things. He was a character designer and lead animator on the original show but not the writer. Most stuff in it doesn't contradict anything though but there's a lot of overly convenient coincidences in the additional prologue stuff.

>>23419140
Thanks for elaborating anon. I bought a lot of those supplemental books recently to read through the nip and piece it together myself but if this effectively does the job without them then i'll just skim them than anything else. Should i consider it more of the same vein ofo the zeta movies? very much the same story but a different experience?

I really ended enjoying the whole ova series because while char here felt a little super power MC the entirety of the war starting through the school arc and seeing exactly where char started his plotting was incredibly interesting that i didn't even know 6 hours flying by. I loved the small tidbits we got of kycilla plotting against her own family to char recognizing the minute he can effectively use garma to accomplish his goals. The backstory for lalah was nice and in way I kinda hope that after she died char tried to find her family and send them money on her behalf. I think even as a standalone this is exactly the type of story i wanted from gundam but didn't get the chance to see in the story. I ended up buying all the nip bluerays just because i was so absorbed in the story.

Even the small bit of amuro's father was really good. I kind of wish they went more in depth in the series about his actual work but obviously it was on amuro rather than his father. Hearing about the DR and his ideals for what the mobile suits used to be and then how they transformed-plus audhd amuro forgoing sleep, hygiene, and eating because he's focused on building. I liked those bits in the original show and the small scenes we get in CCA.

I just thought this was fantastic. I don't think i can rave enough about it. i'm glad I watched it. I'll have to read more about it in the manga. I hope one day they make a drama about Anaheim/amuro's dad

Is that one anon still watching one ep per day or did they drop it?

not OP, but in a similarish situation. Watching my favorite character of GQx job to Amuro within 10 minutes of being introduced made me mad.

>>23420982
I will listen to your rant anon. I really expected more than a few minutes of his screentime but in the end I didn't mind at all since logically gcucks was made after to showcase him

Is it finally time?

>>23421179
IT IS

>>23420982
>>23421013
Challia Bull isn't even in the movies so if you only watch those you won't even know who the fuck he is.

I enjoyed the parts with the Duchy of Jion & Sha whenever he pilots his red Zak. Yes I grew up the infamous 90s translation of the novels. To this day my retarded ass still cringes at the use of Principality of Zeon, Char, & Zaku. It is likely nostalgia goggles being stuck on they were the first novels I ever read many years ago

>>23420404
Sorry I got distracted by superbat but I'm at 9 now>>23421179
Char best boy. I do not care for Amuro. Fra deserves better.

does victory pick up at some point? i'm at 23 now and it feels like uso's gonna be stuck in the I CAN'T KILL PEOPLE IF I SEE THEM AAAAAA arc forever

>>23421328
Yes but I ain't telling you when just because I feel like it but i will reveal you are close to to it

>>23421368
good to hear, thanks

>>23407354
Its a huge tonal shift from Zeta and most people go from Zeta to ZZ

>>23421328
He never stops doing that, if thats what you wanna know

Episode 10 down. Char best boy.

>>23420982
Gqx was a failure because just like Origin it tricked people into thinking Char was cool

>>23421433
i swear the mask looks alright until he takes the helmet off and it becomes the goofiest shit imaginable

>>23407269 (OP)
I watched 78, Z, ZZ and CCA last year. I really liked them all.
I also enjoyed GquuuuuuX a lot. Didn't understand the western hate.

>>23420982
Challia? He is more prominent in the novels.

man i thought the titans could be comedically evil at points, but zanscare outright trying to put an unwilling child soldier to the guillotine? and the common folk actually AGREEING with it?? when 90% of the soldiers uso's gone up against lambasted league militaire for using child soldiers in the first place?
and cronicle has the balls to say the legendary gundam should be on their side...