Thread 42445558

Hi, it's me, smel-anon or whatever I'm called here. I miss art fight already so I decided to do some drawing requests.

How it works:
Smal and her brother, Sight, are here to do your requests. You can just ask for a picture of them doing something or ask them a question, rp as your oc, whatever and I'll do my best to make a quick illustration in response. The plot is that you are guests at their royal castle and these two characters have been assigned to tend to you.

Why?
I like drawing these characters. That simple. Plus it's good practice to do timed trials like this. Push yourself.

Who?
Anons will tall ya who peeps are, tho I have a feeling if you clicked you already know. Today's special guest is Sight. Usually a proficient forest knight, he abandoned the castle life in order to serve as a ranger and patrol the land for signs of the kingdom's greatest enemies- dragons. He's off duty today and ready to fulfill your requests.

When?
I'll be doing this for at least 48 hours, I'll probs end up doing requests until the board dies. I'm only human and if I don't get to yours in time, I'm sorry, just enjoy what we did get. Last time there were people who got theirs skipped because they were being uncreative and begging for pony pu-

OK, start.

>>42445558 (OP)
Draw them kissing each other.

Here's what the other character looks like.

>>42445558 (OP)
Would they enjoy Trixie's shows? I think Sight would take time to watch her peform for a bunch of foals.

>>42445558 (OP)
buy an ad

>>42445558 (OP)
Smal and Sight meeting Princess Celestia, Princess Luna and Prince Blueblood in the Canterlot Castle would be cool to see. Perhaps have it in the area where the Grand Galloping Gala is hosted?

>>42445558 (OP)
Draw her getting happily married to (You)

>>42445568
Draw Smel buying an ad for herself on 4chan

>>42445593
Dang, if I'm that annoying I'll just let the thread die, dang. I'm not trying to gain anything- if anything I lose from this since I'm just wasting time with anons.

>>42445558 (OP)
Have them wrestling.

>>42445618
Anon, people post "Buy an ad" just to make people mad. Don't worry about it too much.
>t. Buy an ad poster

>>42445565
It looks like he would be a little too protective of the kids

>>42445671
Oops, file was too big

>>42445618
You dumbass, that was a honest request to spite the spammer

>>42445786
Love it! Thank you Anon!

>>42445558 (OP)
I demand that the two set up a hot wheels track in the throne room

>>42445558 (OP)
smel with safety padding on her hooves so she doesnt poke through the carpet.
maybe corks? pillows?

>>42445558 (OP)
You walk around with those slender tall figures & legs, those pristine white coats, goth style and those creepy elliptical pupils indicating danger and you're just begging to be turned into sex slaves, you hear me?

>these two characters have been assigned to tend to you.
>Anon: Well I wouldn't want to impose...
>>Smel/Smel/I mean Smal and her brother: Oh it's no problem at all, we were born & trained to be keepers and reprensatives of higher beings, it's what we're good at...
>The 2 totally not incesting brother & sister who actually love each other unlike Coffin of Andy & Leyley
>Anon who's totally not Johnny Bravo: Well if you insist....
>Anons demands become more and more high demand & more humiliating
>Smel & her brother start to notice these tasks are beneath them but they're under a contract and all. They start calling anon SIR/MASTER
>Anon loves every bit of it.
>Anon is a dick both literally and figuratively.
>>The time is up
>Smel & her brother: Will you excuse us for 1 second Anon? :)
>Smel & her brother take off their maid bells taking Anon by surprise and put on their ancient battle gear
>Anon: Hey what's with the fancy pijamas?
>Smel & her brother say they missed a spot and need to clean it up ... the spot being Anon. They take out the trash which is Anon.
>Loud noises & anon screaming like a sissy starts with ocassional monkey noises and the brother & sister moaning in the background "Well that was refreshing, see yea later Anon take care :D"
>Anon: Owww.... I can't feel my ass....
https://www.megacartoons.net/berry-the-butler/

>>42446000
tldr: this Anon is gay and wants to suck cocks

>>42445558 (OP)
>Spike Smal & Sight{SS} here have been assigned to tend to you.
>Smal & Sight almost have an aneurysm as they need to tend to their faction's generational arch enemy: the dragons. They try to remain calm since he's not a big dragon, he doesn't have wings, but still.... their racism keeps cracking.
>Spike tries to take care of them instead.
>Smal & Sight don't know how to feel about a dragon constantly trying to tend to them instead.


>Smal & Sight need to tend to Twilight's needs.
>Spike is getting exceptionally jealous since these two are actually competent at being assistants unlike the dumb owl and they don't say "Who?" like a broken record.

>>42445627
Huh how would horses even wrestle? wouldn't their hindquarters break when they attempt all those weird positions?
>Fluttershy is too shy to give orders around.
>Smal & Sight just take care of Fluttershy like it's Dragonshy.
>Smal & Sight don't think too much of her until they're taken by surprise when this tiny thing scares an entire 50 meter tall dragon, let alone a small 2 meter tall teenager dragon.

>>42445584
"Do you love me, Anon?"

>>42445558 (OP)
How did I mispell my own character's name? Dang.

>>42446107
That's a nice... ad you got there.
I would definitely be inclined to learn more.

>>42446117
>Smal
You are now obliged to draw her as filly

>>42446000
> and those creepy elliptical pupils indicating danger
You know I never understood this cliche in cartoons such as My Life As A Teenage Robot, Superman and PPG, UNTIL I met this fandom ... now I can kinda understand it from seeing the various ignorance throughout the fandom. Dumb people never learn.

I mean you have these super powerful mystical equines that can turn you to shreds in 10 seconds flat and your reaction to them is "Eeyyy they ain't so tough! I'ma steal AJ's hat and throw an apple at her and call her my dog" I guess because their mentality is "They won't even hurt me".
I mean for all intents and purposes the overpowered equines should be the ones bullying you, not the other way around.

Or imagine the irony of a unicorn being madly in love with you yet you like a faggot are madly disgusted, emasculated and scared of ladybugs, I mean quesadillas, I mean unicorns.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccXAUij_CsA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjltzA5Sb7s

>>42445627
Gonna take a chow break, I'll finish this up a lil later. So far here's the work in progress

>>42446190
Looking good.

>>42445558 (OP)
But now seriously what's up with their eyes? are they reptillians and their ancestors were raped by dragonst? are they dragons cursed into ponies? do they all have dark alicorn magic inside them like Nightmare Moon?

Also I swear to God if this comic starred a racist unicorn instead of a racist elf then everyone would read it and not care it's just 1 joke. Everything is improved by unicorns.

Oh cool, I remember these unicorn thingies!
>>42445563
Where's her leg knife thingy?

>>42446339
Leg knife? You mean her hooves?

draw nyx

>>42446314
they're actually not ponies. they are eldritch beings made of magic.
here is the original thread: https://desuarchive.org/mlp/thread/41721771

Draw them cosplaying as my OTP.

>>42446572
This looks really nice.

Draw how Smel and Sight would react to someone flirting with them

>>42445558 (OP)
draw Smel with a chubby tummy from eating too many sweets

>>42445558 (OP)
Draw Smel in the middle of estrus

>>42446771
Sure... sweets.

>>42445614
>>42445558 (OP)
How am I supposed to tell apart the male from the female?
Seriously how does this new generation tell apart each other?

>>42446314
>>42446417
These are a race of pony-like creatures I made for a MLP themed DnD game. The idea behind them is, what if MLP unicorns interacted with more classical unicorns?

As their lore expanded, they ended up changing a lot.Where they are from, dragons are more classical dragons, and the unicorns have to content with defending themselves from being eaten or conquered. Because they, unlike ponies, are still prey to some degree, they have more deer-like features. They claim that the "twin gods" made them this way, though in one of the newer games I ran, Celestia pondered that they may be more closely related to Kirins (horse dragons) than unicorns.

The fun of running them comes from the sense of elegance and mystery meeting one of these rare creatures comes with. When you meet one you know it's either gonna be a big help or huge trouble.

>>42446829
well, there we have it.

say, why don't you expand the lore a little more with some visuals? draw something that represents their world and/or their struggles and/or something else from their lore.
also, what's the name of the species?

>>42446711
At first glance I thought her hooves had been concreted and she'd been tossed into the ocean

>>42445558 (OP)
I want Smel to experience the full might and power of a late 90s sedan with an absolutely obnoxious amount of subwoofers

>>42445558 (OP)
>>42446854
Oh and it'd be funny if you draw Sight doing the trump "get out" meme. just for the lols. that should give you a chance to come up with what their country's flag would look like.

Draw them calling op a faggot

I'm going to bed, friends. I'll try to get up bright and early to do more requests as promised.

>>42446107
BASED
>>42446711
kek, cement shoes seem pretty harsh

>>42446572
Never mess with the honey cakes

>>42445558 (OP)
>"S-so... Come here often?"

>>42446645
AmnesiaShy vibes
Thanks for unlocking that memory
>>42446785
ToT

Smel(ly) bump

>>42445558 (OP)
/r/ those two in a break dancing competition.

>>42445558 (OP)
Are these 2 compatible as playable combatant characters for quests? or I guess I could use them as familiars instead if they're not very independent and reliable as mains.

>>42447855
Yeah, they can defo go on quests. They began life as DnD npcs, after all

>>42446147
Yeah, they'll fuck you up

>>42446699
It's OK because it's cosplay

>>42446760
"Why do I hear boss music?"

>>42446771
This one was weirdly fun to draw because I hadn't really considered what an overweight character of this species type would be like. I mean, we've seen fat ponies on the show but IDK

>>42446775
I was like, is that what I think that means? and had to look it up to make sure.

>>42448104
very naisu

>>42446353
I did draw this earlier I guess I didn't post it.

>>42448462
So he's an artist? Dude's after my heart (no homo).

>>42445558 (OP)
I want to intensely boop them both! And then shower them with affection they probably really need

>>42448206
She looks like she rapes human men

>>42448552
THIS

>>42445558 (OP)
How stretchy are their ponuts?

>>42448104
Now draw them cosplaying as Shining Armor and Twilight. Have the siblings ever met?

>>42448740
I can't believe she got poomped on! I hope she'll get better like that doe

>>42448740
Did she died

>>42446871
https://youtu.be/l9n_5TXH9A0

Alright you two, Smel & Sight, but I'll just call you SS - Schutzstaffel, tell me a little about yourselves, your backgrounds, so I know if to call you chucklefucks or actual useful magical unicorn-like creatures. You are magical, right?
>>42448156
... you better not be susceptile to corruption... or hell go and be, I'll just purify you later.

If I roll under 10 I'm a human, if I roll above 10 I'm a unicorn commander.

Congratulations kid, we're going on a little field trip. Princess Moonbutt messed up a curse 3000 years ago and I need to go on a little errand correct it. Fetch some health potions for yourselves. I'm already packed with the scroll, spell and magical lantern artifact.
https://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/573755
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUcyinyU9ww

>>42446885
NGL I can't think of any way to make this funny. You win some you lose some.

>>42445558 (OP)
Smel getting told she is doing a great job as host in the castle with Sight seething in the back jelous

Rolled 9 (1d20)

>>42448859
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=goCMFkzNdfQ&list=RDgoCMFkzNdfQ&start_radio=1

vocaroo.com/1oHodh5vYKpR
A cutie mark is far more than a mere symbol or identifier—it is the distilled essence of a pony’s very being. It is not simply a reflection of a talent or hobby, nor a role assigned by society. Instead, it stands as an intricate, immutable emblem of individuality, representing a pony’s soul, heritage, and identity in a way that is both deeply personal and profoundly abstract.
This mark is a tapestry of meaning, weaving together culture, ancestry, character, and spirit. It is a flag of individuality, a coat of arms that each pony bears proudly. Like a fingerprint unique to the self, it cannot be replicated or erased. In its permanence, as confirmed in Call of the Cutie, the cutie mark becomes a lifelong affirmation of one’s unique narrative—a sacred banner of identity and self-discovery.
To reduce such a profound symbol to a mere vocational label, as some later depictions in Cutie Pox or Magical Mystery Cure attempt, is to strip it of its true magnificence. A cutie mark is not a job or an obligation; it is a timeless reflection of the harmony between body, mind, and soul. To trivialize its meaning is to misunderstand its transcendent role in expressing individuality and purpose.
Scientifically, one might liken it to a unique genetic code, an expression of existence so layered and intricate that it defies reductive interpretation. Emotionally, it is a beacon—a radiant testament to the miracle of identity and the wonder of self-expression.
Let the cutie mark remain untouched, its beauty unblemished and its meaning untarnished. To honor the cutie mark is to honor the sacred, irreplaceable essence of the individual. It is a celebration of the complexities that define us, a crystallized symbol of the infinite beauty of the soul. Let it forever stand as the brilliant coat of arms it was always meant to be—a shining flag of the heart, unfurled in the winds of life. A true snowflake essence known colloquially as snowpity.

Even I as a human tear up a little hearing this, how about you? I know you don't care much for cutie marks.

>>42448883
>9
Guess I won't be using these white mares to make the dream team ah well, contrast will work just fine. Won't play as the noble samurai warrior either unfortunately. Will be playing as the roughneck redneck bastard with scars who's still a good guy but he loves to leave destruction behind. Still going to wield those scrolls n magical artefacts ... together with a minigun and a sniper.

Pack up supplies kids, we'll go for a nice walk in the everfree forest park and see if we're going to be ranked to a nuclear threat.
>Havoc prepares his vehicle-destroying sniper bullets

>>42448156
>No Way Fag
Look at this dude. Nigga sure is acting a sweet sensitive little boy for someone in cuddling distance.

>>42448877
I guess humor is subjective, but I was expecting you to redraw that scene, not draw your OC over it...

>>42448941
I tried to do it a few times, but I couldn't get it to look like the character wasn't doing a nazi salute, and I'm like, ehhhhhhhhhhh maybe I'll give it a second try later.

>>42448963
I mean, that's kinda funny

>>42448905
Alright old man give us the briefing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PL-95JArJpM&list=RDPL-95JArJpM&start_radio=1
"Attend me well, for the strands of fate have been woven, and the course of events shall not bend to whim or folly. No matter how the winds of chaos may howl or what mischiefs arise upon the path, the end remains unchanged. Two fates lie before us, etched in starlight and shadow: either thou shalt guard me as I conjure the spell, or I shall shield thee both whilst ye summon the arcane forces. There is no third road."

"Now, heed me closely, for I speak of horrors born of nightmare and bone—the cursed fiends of ash and ember. Their flesh is like burning coals, their touch degrading the body as rot does fruit. Yet oddly, aye, absurdly… chewing gum and tree sap—yes, I speak in earnest—do bind them, hold them fast. The magicks of both shadow and light find purchase against them. Fire? Tolerable at best. But if thou canst harness the power of the stars—what the old ones call radiance or radiation—then thou hast found a worthy bane."

"Nightmares, like revenants of the old crypts, rise again and again unless bound. Keep them trapped with thunderstones—what the tinkers now call EMP grenades. Lacking those? A pail of tree sap shall do. Or if thy courage runs hotter than thy sense, chew thy gum and spit it true—like a peasant duelist flinging curses with cud."

"And gods preserve us… I ride not with the Anonfolk on this quest, no I do not. Fools, the lot of them, would likely attempt carnal congress with mercury thiocyanate—yea, the cursed alchemical flame that births blackened serpents from naught but heat. To touch such a thing with one’s flesh… it is akin to grasping the embers of hellfire, to stroking a turd still steaming from a demon’s maw. If it does not burn thee to ash outright, it shall drain thy youth and leave thee an old man before moonrise. Mark me—touch not such things without wards, gloves, or divine protection!"

There. Ancient wisdom, cloaked in riddle and fire, as befits the tongue of a realm where dragons still sleep beneath the mountains. Wouldst thou have it grimmer still? Or more elvish, mayhap?


You kids got all that? and just to make it clear: the wizard isn't coming with us.

>>42448973
Not that old man. This old man.

>>42448957
That makes me think, are their "hooves" just a stylistic choice of yours or are they actually supposed to be bladed? Can they cut something with them?

>>42448963
try making it just perfectly horizontal. keep in mind Trump is pointing at someone in the crowd in front of him in that scene, slightly downward. it might help if you draw your OC taller.

>>42448740
I DIDNT MEAN LIKE THAT

>>42447767
Topical meme

>>42448983
They do have pointed hooves. They're always on point.

>>42448552
>>42448615

The Coffin of Sight & Smel
>You mean Smel & Sight, right?
When you'll learn grammar.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JekKUGGrrHw
>I HOPE YOU WEREN'T PLANNING ON PULLING OUT DEAR BROTHER MWHAHAHAHHAHA

uppies

How is this on page 10 already? It's barely been an hour. What is going on

>>42449624
junk threads

>>42448620
I tried to have them cosplay but both the characters are naked, so I just drew Twi and Shining in this style. Hope that's OK

>>42449037
Neat.

>>42448859
>>42448883
>>42448905
>>42448973

"Sure, we'll go on an adventure... uh, what's all this about cutie marks? Aliens? We don't quite understand what you want us to do..."

>>42448994
Damn, that's crazy. BTW, what's the deal with the bdsm collar you always wear?

>>42449660
Not complaining one bit. I do think it'd be funny if they made up as Shiny and Twiley for Sparklecon tho. Maybe ran into the surprise guests of honor while they were there.

>>42449732
Haha, perfect. Schizoanon's nonsensical rant has them dazed and confused. They'll never seen the double headpats coming. One hand for each hors. Too ez.

>>42448880
I think this is the last request I've gotten so far?

>>42445558 (OP)
Have them having a picnic at night

>>42445558 (OP)
smel nibbles on anon's ear as sight lays on anon with bedroom eyes

>>42449921 here
forgot to mention im a brown shitskin

Would somebody give this dude a hug or something already? God damn. Shit's starting to bother me. Little guy needs some lovin'.

>>42450018
This.
Draw him getting recognition by everything he has done, celebrate his achievements, acknowledge his contributions, give credit where it's due, express gratitude for his efforts, highlight his role in the team's success, thank him sincerely and personally, nominate him for an award or honor

>>42450018
Draw him getting some sloppy toppy from yours truly

>>42450018
make every single pony give him a hug that he gets overwhelmed

>>42448963
figured I'll show you an example made by a drawfag from the draw thread.

>>42445558 (OP)
Draw her pregnant.

>>42450211
Pretty sure I did that last time.

>>42448740
I like this one next you should tie her to some railroad tracks

>>42449945
Wait, what happens if he gets exposed to sunlight? Does he get covered in adorable freckles? Or he turns to dust like a vampire?

>>42449886
>>42450018
>>42450087
>>42450111
>>42450634

I have work tomorrow. It's sad. I wish I could draw for most of the day like today. I will probably do one or two more. Sorry I took a break earlier, anons, had to do irl stuff.

>>42449881
Lmaooo that’s an amazing seethe. Sight will get his pats and praise in the future I’m sure of it. Of course Smel looks elegant as always, thanks for doing the request Smel-anon!

>>42450767
Hol up. How come Eyeballs decided to leave Stinky here for the forest? Isn't he supposed to be there to protect her from stuff and make her feel better? He should at least be there to make sure no one tries to get fresh with his sister. Being a lone female servant in the royal palace is not a job without it's hazards, I'm sure.

Anyway, I've been thinking lately, we've met Sight and Smel, so we ever gonna meet Sound, Taste, and Touch?

>>42450767
How fun.

>>42451090
Dang! That looks amazing! Better then mine holy moly. Thanks!

>>42450984
Sight looks down at his feet, tensing up. His face glows with guilt, his front hoof quivering. "I at least protect the city she's in. At least I can do something."

>>42451394
Alright, lad... Just kinda seems like maybe your sister needs you by her side more than you need to be running about in the woods playing hero and fighting off villains who are just trying to poach a wild carrot or two to survive.

>>42445558 (OP)
Can I request her in a nurse outfit being surgical with cutting a cut with Nurse Redheart looking amused beside her

>>42445558 (OP)
>>42445563
draw them fucking

>>42451683
make it censored just to fuck with this nigga

>>42449100
Where's the other unicorn draw-man?

>>42451690
And then uncensor it to fuck with this guy

>>42452212
and then censor it again just because

cute ponies

>>42451683
Can't wait to draw this one.

Wooo! Got out of work early!!! Drawing time

>>42449921
I wish

>>42453513
Yea. I need me some of that.

>>42445558 (OP)
Sight having a staring contest against a smol dragon.

>>42453545
YES

>>42448183
very nice, thank you! the little back roll is a nice touch. super cute

>>42453513
unf

>>42454245
draw them fucking

>>42454262
I need to draw myself sleeping

>>42454245
wincest enjoyers... why must we suffer so?

>>42454245
Draw the green one trying to act like he's not in his natural habitat at a gay bar

>>42454267
Dunno if you'll have time tomorrow, but a side-by-side comparison of both Smal and Sight before/after being complimented would be cute

>>42453513
super cute, sight is very kissable by anon here

How about a picture of the two gay ones fucking off forever?

>>42454320
Unfortunately I don't know what you're parents look like.
>>42454301
Yeah! I'll see when I get off work.

>>42445558 (OP)
I'd just like to thank the artist for cute pointy pony and i like the clothing styles

draw sight's cum face

>>42454276
She was so excited about it too... It's the damn prince and that other butthole. Fucking nobility always ruining everything, man. There's only one thing to do. We must overthrow the landed aristocracy and found a new egalitarian republic so Smel can bang her brother. Vive la révolution!

>>42453545
Dumb horse, you have blades on your hooves
Just cut yourself free

>>42454426
Its too late I am going to plap her

>>42454245
Tell the guy who made his prince OC that he's a faggot cause that's not the correct shade of teal. Tourqoise is a beautiful color but everyone keeps fucking it up with that ugly shade of green.

>>42448156
>I am about to ruin this man's whole career.
Why is she snickering like that? How perverted is the female? What fetishes does she shave I mean have?

>>42452748
Absolutely devilish.

>>42454322
Oh man, I think you fooled me because the young prince is all gray in the first picture there. What I meant was how about a picture of the (one) gay one fucking off forever. My bad ^:)

>>42454325
Aww, thanks!
>>42454360
She's always ready to fulfill a request
>>42454587
Yeah, I did draw him uglier than he's meant to be. Img enclosed
I guess she just knows what she's worth.
>>42454707
Seymore
>>42454767
I don't think you're the only one lol

/r/equesting a unicorn of your choice & a dryad of your choice shaking hooves and staring at a G5 midget horse pony of your choice. Optionally with 1 extra wide panel where Shawn Keller's Athena shows up behind them.
https://legendsofequestria.fandom.com/wiki/Dryad
https://legendsofequestria.fandom.com/wiki/Naiad
I think the Forest Dryad looks the nicest.

>>42454910
Bro, I love Athena!

>>42454890
>I did draw him uglier
He's still cute as hell, love him!

Draw Smel being stuck in the rain grate (picrel)
Bonus points for her brother being there, pondering how did she get herself into this situation

>>42455419
This is a good one

>>42454006
So talented!

Another smelly bump

>>42450550
Do it again, it's her second foal. And make her chubbier.

>>42456470
Ah! Thanks! I just got back to drawing time.

>>42454260
Wonder what Smal's dreaming about?

>>42456613
hot, incestuous, babymaking wild hoofholding

>>42454910
Gonna try to get back to this one.
>>42455419

>>42456613
>>42454260
Who's the tiny dragon, what's his deal?

>>42451090
>>42456613
Dang, he looks even more like a Tezuka character in this.

>>42456778
There was a request, >>42453727
that asked for a small dragon. Just drew Figment, essentially.

I love these unicorns!

>>42457121
How would smel react to being pampered?

>>42457138
Err, I guess sight.

Some of the other castle ponies flirting with Sight, who gets flustered.

>>42445614
What would it be like to be in a pony cuddle sandwich between these two?

>>42457121
I don't trust him either, lad. I'm actually pretty glad to see the guy get mad instead of just sad and depressed. Attaboy.

Then what happened? Come on, I gotta know.

>>42457743
I'll try to get more done after work, sorry! Though I do have the next day off, so I can hopefully do a big finale then.

>>42445558 (OP)
I love you

>>42457121
wtf now I'm angery too grrrr

>>42458517
Ah, sorry, it's a follow up to>>42454245

A warm-and-fuzzy with Smel telling Sight he’s a great guy and she’s so happy to have him as her brother.

>>42445558 (OP)
Smel and Sight going to a party made by Pinkie Pie

>>42458849
BTW, I absolutely love your work. It’s provided me some bright spots during a rough time.

>>42458485
now I wanna see more twitch chat emoji lookalikes like LUL, KEKW, surprised pikachu, and so on.

>>42458485
that pog isn't pog enough, can't see the mouth if I downsize it to 40x40.
altho, now I wanna see more twitch chat emoji lookalikes like LUL, KEKW, surprised pikachu, and so on.

>>42459283
>>42459140
I feel like that is more commission territory if you want them to be functional desu. Sorry! I'll maybe knock one or two out.

Smel and Sight giving Anon a big hug, with Anon returning.

>>42457138
>>42457143

>>42460164
Nah, come Anon, you know he's lying. He wants to be touched more than anything in the world. He's just scared, he doesn't want to get hurt.

>>42457201
Sorry, forgot to attach image lol

>>42460349
please let me suck his cock I am on my metaphorical hooves and knees begging

>>42445558 (OP)
Are Smal and Sight bad enough dudes to do cool skateboard tricks?

>>42457201
>>42458849
>>42460426
>>42460332

>>42445558 (OP)
Smel and Sight VS a puffball mushroom.

>>42460485
I wanna give this guy a hug. Draw his sister giving him a hug and comforting him and shit!!

>>42460412
I did this one last time.

>>42458854
>>42459283
>>42459795
>>42460395

Alright, now explain it to me like I'm Rainbow Dash.

>>42460817
Come on, you were getting mad earlier, what happened? Giddy up, little horse!

>>42460817
What kind of poems do the prince write?

>>42460984
I bet it's dumb ham-fisted literary garbage about pretty white flowers or some shit and Smel just has to sit there with a smile on her face and tell him it's the best thing she's ever heard. Stupid butthole prince. It's not fair dammit, Sight deserves to cum!

>>42460164
Sight needs to relax some.

I wanna feed Smel different mushrooms. Lions mane, shiitake, blue oyster, chicken of the woods. All of them!

>>42460984
Sorry I didn't have time to draw much today, but >>42461005 is pretty accurate about the poetry. Dude loves two things: grapes, and making poems about plants and flowers. He's nobility through adoption, and quite honestly, if he could, he would much rather just live on his own farm and not have to deal with the world.

Living in the castle seems to have made him a little self indulgent. Oof.

>>42458855
Just wanted to let you know that this means a lot to me. The reason I like drawing these characters is because they help me understand my own feelings. Sight's insecurities and his frustration with where his life is sort of speaks to me. On the opposite side you have his sister. Seeing how bubbly and happy she is, just helps you get through it, you know? I mean, putting her red flags aside.

But yeah. I hope things get better. I know it's sorta cringe, but recently I found these words from a Vylet Pony song to really speak to me, and maybe they will speak to you.

"A pasture beside the willows
And I know that you're still me
So listen when I say
To love being alive
Is never a mistake"

Love being alive. What a wonderful sentiment.

>>42461287
>>42460810
Sight reminds me of an angry man-hating lesbian that got raped, except you know it's a guy.
If he lived in reverse California I bet he'd sue you for even smiling at him, let alone complimenting him.
Good good Sight now bring me 6 cats and then fondle with the cats cause you clearly will become a crazy cat man anyway.

>Faggot TEAL prince
>Dude loves two things: grapes, and making poems about plants and flowers. He's nobility through adoption, and quite honestly, if he could, he would much rather just live on his own farm and not have to deal with the world.
*Pukes* give him to me ... give him to me ... I'll teach him to become proper royalty or I'll kill him. This is why you don't take bastards into your kingdom.

>>42460349
>Sir
No way that green fag is a guy with that kinda almond-shaped eye with eyelashes and fucking lilac eyeshadow Bitch looks like she rapes colts. Also I thought she said "Your service is needed" implying she wants to rape him again.
Pfft funny, sad, but interesting if the guy enrolled into the military so he stops getting snu snu'd by every mare in town. Those bitches look BIG and evil.

>>42461313
>No way that green fag is a guy with that kinda almond-shaped eye with eyelashes and fucking lilac eyeshadow

That's a dude, yeah. He's the guy who adopted teal stallion. "Your service is honorable," referring to his military service. Dude is a bit too much, I agree lol.

>>42460810
You know damn well what I meant!!!! His WEINER

>>42461335
I mean, I can draw him eating a hot dog, I guess... unless you mean... no... why would anyone want to see THAT!?

>>42461313
Actually would make sense if he got booty blasted by some weird-o noble officer guy while he was in the military. There was some stuff from past threads of Smel and Sight that seemed to me to hint at some dark past of abuse for the both of them. I didn’t want to bring it up cause I was hoping everyone would forget about it and we could just get happy cute pones, but it was definitely there.

Maybe albinos are like bottom bitch status. Not like bottom bitch, but actually bottom bitch, and they get to be abused however the others see fit? Glasses Fluttershy and the other pony seemed nice enough, but the pointy snout ones seem to have no problem ordering /ourhorses/ around.

I dunno what’s up with ghost m’lady and Smel on the other side of the mirror tho. Not sure how literal it’s all supposed to be.

>>42461350
>I dunno what’s up with ghost m’lady
She's basically the lead butler in downton abbey. She tends to the creatures they call their gods, on the rare occasion they stick around, so she sorta gets more magical via contact. This is the position Smel is training to take someday.
>Smel on the other side of the mirror tho. Not sure how literal it’s all supposed to be.
Not much. I wanted to incorporate the suggestions to have her comfort Sight but also keep to the funny idea that she is away and Sight has to play her part in the remaining requests.

I'm interested in hearing your game night sessions and seeing your GM maps, character bios n stuff.

https://app.roll20.net/forum/post/1990789/lfp-mlp-hollow-shades-story-driven-deep-game-thursdays/?pageforid=2031072
https://www.canterlot.com/topic/23523-the-mysteries-of-hollow-shades-closed/

There was once upon a time a Savage Worlds ( Deadlands: Reloaded, Evernight... ) Hollow Shades game that boasted over 600 fleshed out NPCs, but all the links to it are broken.

>>42461391
Post the link in a pastebin that expires in under 1 hour. First come first served.

>>42461370
They’re grooming Smel, huh? So they’re not gonna let her go, and Eyeballs isn’t willing to leave her so he hangs around to spend time with the only pony he loves and feels comfortable with in between sessions of questionable consent with Prince Butthole and Prince Butthole Sr. and spends the rest of his time feeling world is a shit?

>>42461392
The problem is I don't have everything written down and what I do have is inconsistent because the lore and characters change each time I run the setting.

>>42461403
I wouldn't say they're grooming her. She wants the position, mostly for selfish gain. She wants the status that comes with it, mainly.

>>42461410
I get ya. Grooming doesn't actually imply any lack of consent or anything. But she doesn't want to go either, huh? Well, we know what Smel wants then, but what does Sight want? What's driving him to such depression?

Is he really just upset that people think he's beautiful and give him lots of attention cause he's an albino and he wants to be invisible? Does he really want to wife up his sister? Or does it just drive him crazy that she's willing to (metaphorically, I hope) whore herself out by voluntarily putting herself in a position of subservience and servitude so she can get a high status job with a fancy title some day?

What's up with the albino thing anyway? They seem to be special, and not just in a "some weird combination of alleles made them all white" kinda way. Is there some significance to it? Are they supposed to be blessed and have some special destiny or something? What happened to them in the past any way? You gotta understand, I'm an autist on the internet, I'm super invested in this now!

>>42461343
>draw him eating a hot dog
Unironically yes I want to know how he eats a hot dog

>>42461443
fuck that I want to masturbate feverishly to his genitals and/or taste it for myself

>>42461447
You don't hurt my boy.

>>42454231
>Make me some tea
Earl Grey, right?
>No, raspberries, extra sweet
-_-? okay.... *puts 1 teaspoon of sugar in it*
>Um could you ...
> 1 more raspberry so it's more powerful? some mint leaves?
>No, actually can you use a full spoon for the sugar?
*Eye twitches* Aren't you're a little too old for?--
>Please
You know you can just drink syrup at this point. Ugh fine. *angry grumbling* Why did you even ask for tea if you just want syrup.
I thought I was taking care of a grown ass unicorn, not a child. A sophisticated noble. Ah well let's move on.

you write poetry? I write poetry too, Artemis. How wonderful, my gentle unicorn. Finally a sensitive intellectual who lets go of his inhibitions and lowers his societal mask where you have to act like a sociopathic animal or else nobody pays attention to you.

I wrote something myself but it's in my educated opinion not strong and goth enough, it feels a little too wishy washy at times.

>Read Artemis' poetry
>He writes like my retarded girls in my classroom wrote adjectives in 2nd grade
>Pretty beautiful honey-scented flowers red like love
>Sweet purple grapes, purple like lilac, melting in your mouth, perfumed like lilacs too
What the fuck am I reading.... this kid has no fucking talent whatsoever and not a lick of intelligence in him.
*struggling not to poison his tea and blaming it on the prince's stupidity cause the prince mistook bleach for cream*

>Artemis:Oh you write poetry too, may I see?
https://rentry.co/g5f85w8x
>Artemis: I think I need an adult...?
I AM AN ADULT!!!!

So if you could live anywhere where would it be? I quite like this mountainous city, reminds me of Camelot, but Mount Olympus with all the clouds is where I'd settle.
>Oh I'd enjoy a cozy little place
Ah yes I too would enjoy my own cloud with a vantage point where I can see everything and everyone, not living under a rock.
>on a rock farm but with lots of flowers and fruit
Excuse your entire species?
>Yes you see my father well umm he made me out of wedlock with an earth mare and
You mean he FUCKED AN ENTIRE BROTHEL and you're just a bastard? *Prince Vegeta aura*
>Oh yes and I often times wish I could go back to my roots
You have a horn, your father is a majestic unicorn, those are your bloody roots
>But I quite seek to return to my earth roots
Your unicorn blood... are your roots... you filthy fucking phillistine.. are you rejecting the superior genes?
>Please don't get mad, this place is nice really, but
But you wouldn't survive a day on a rock farm. What's next? Pissing without a toilet? IN THE FOREST!?!?
>I don't think you're quite in a position to-
HAH AAHAHHA NOT IN A POSITION? IF I TELL YOUR FATHER HE'LL DISOWN YOU AT BEST
>And he'll send me to a rock farm :D?
Without any of the riches you moron
>Wha-wha-but
Without any of your maids
>What do you mean
Without any toilet paper
>Wha-
Without. Your maids. Holding your HOSEcock while you urinate over the trees like a filthy filthy dog marking his territory.

>>42461465
Tea is meant to be syrup with extra steps, just like generously adding extra steps to all kinds of stories and metamorphoses is the definition of sophistication. Oh well. At least you understand mint. A man who understands mint can always be saved, even if he's grievously wrong about every other side of life.

>Your maids. Holding your HOSEcock while you urinate
hot

>>42461525
Of course a little foal like you would think that. Get into programming and you'll soon change your view on complexity through redundant extra steps. Brevity is the soul of wit(don't look up that reference, it completely destroys anyone's argument who ever quoted that).
> wrong about every other side of life.
Ohohoho don't make me get into the boobs vs butt argument, *smells & inhales* you wouldn't be able to handle me.

>>42460349
>Exquisite cute mares including Fluttershy with GLASSES, I bet she's a TheRapist.
>Long slender unicorns with constant bedroom eyes, even the males look like hookers
Mmmyyess, yesss, yess!!! YESSSS I will fuck this form of unicornia like it's my sole duty. I need to dominate the yanderes, I need to FUCK the challenge and make it submit to me and give me my rightful dues.
Finally a worthy collection of opponents, our rape will be legendary!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkfBtZ9UvpQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCr7K9FrTno
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPSokAhqi9Q


>What's teal prince like in bed?
I'd rather not but hey if you insist. You massage and love like a dog, you massage like a cat and you fuck like a newborn rabbit humping like a dirty whore in heat who doesn't know what's she's doing.
Call your whore of a father. Hey father your son is a disappointment in bed, he can't even suck dick properly and considers that a high fetish.

Something tells me this town is filled with repressed perverted esoteric weirdos like I enjoy, but they lack in the intellect and power profile, I hope I'll be proven wrong. I hope this isn't another Anne of Green Gables where the it's nothing but impressionable fools and PRETEND noblemen who lack any actual royal blood in them. Mmhhhm *licks the blue blood off the walls* I need that royal unicorn's blood. I'm still the good mare here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWnD1YBPhNU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16efRG5H_Vc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6uT92dZ6hg8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOakHBrdWlY

Haha anonfilly? She'll be dead within the week nothing to worry about.
>Wait a second that anonymous behaves differently from the others.
>Oh my God that isn't a normal Anon. Oh my God.
>YOU FOOLS YOU LET THE FOX WATCH OVER THE HENHOUSE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNktmGPsWNg

>>42461673
word up homie

>>42461465
>>42461673
Wtf is this schizo ranting? 2hahgs

>>42445558 (OP)
So, are they all gay or something?

>>42460730
radical

>>42461804
"No! We are NOT all gay! So what? Oh no, the men living in the palace look styling! Yeah, no duh they wouldn't look like your average guy. Plus, we use magic for things! We don't need to bulk up in most cases. I for one feel VERY comfortable in my thin, lively body. Jerk."

"My brother is straight, btw! I know! He liked this one mare but didn't tell her. Idk said he didn't want to hurt her or something. I told him to just make sure to turn off all the candles before going to bed and she would be safe, but he just didn't get it."

Are you guys the equivalent of The French?

>>42461846
Boop the horse so that she would stop being angy

>>42445558 (OP)
Great work in the thread Smel-anon. Getting really interested in the lore here. Drew a quick Sight sketch since I’ve drawn Smel earlier (and because you fulfilled my request)

>>42462208
This is so flipping amazing! Thank you so muuuch! I love the pose, it's got such energy! Looks so confident and powerful despite the frail frame.

>>42461948
All I can think of is that Scootertrix video

draw smel walking in on anon cuddling with the prince under the sheets

>>42462258
I appreciate the kind words! The body types you’ve got on him and Smel are really fun to draw.

Smel, Sight, light up those lanterns while I keep away the black silhouette fire demons with these lanterns instead. ALLONS-Y!

>>42461846
W-what happens if you don't turn off the candles before bed?

>>42461226
>>42460517

>>42461443
>>42463266
"They'll fall over and burn your house down!"

Sorry, I just don't have a lot of energy today. Please forgive me if I don't do more today.

>>42461453
HOW DID YOU KNOW IT WAS ME
THAT ASS WILL BE MINE SOMEDAY YOU INFERIOR WHITE BITCH

>>42463408
Yay! Mushroom!

>>42463430
tasty

>>42463430
I'm getting some real 'Luna eating the whole pineapple' vibes.

>>42463430
Yea, that's that says 'shut up or I will bite your head off like it's this hotdog'. We'll just have to get Smel to spill the beans later. She's good for it, I'm sure.

>>42464136
Oh, I accidentally the a look.

>>42463408
Man, that horse sure likes eating mushrooms.

>>42463485
back to your old molesting ways I see, sunbutt

Sight! Please forgive for bringing you back to life Pet Cemetery style. I now know that it oculd never work between us. As much as we wanted to it could never be!
Not because you're a horse and I'm a human, but because I'M BLACK ;_;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnbiiYWcSQc&ab_channel=NicholasDarkTV

Sight my one true love <3 I've always wanted to tell you this but I couldn't find the right words to express myself until now.
Spikes are for faggot wannabe Punkers. You should try skulls instead, much more Goth and sophisticated. <3

>>42464799
Lol. Has human skulls on it. Everyone just looks at him confused.

>>42464989
That's even cooler though.
>You wouldn't understand.

>>42445558 (OP)
>Those eyes
Ohhh I bet he's hiding an eldritch abomination demon inside him ready to ravage me.

>>42465229
No, he's just slightly autistic.

Touch the horse, do it now. Touch it right on the flank.

>>42466409
which one?

>>42461313
>>42461965
>>42464799
>>42466409

>>42467099
Love them thanks for drawing!

>>42467099
Unironically extremely sexy I adore these equines

>>42467303
Aww… Well make with the hugging and “I love you” then. Pretty gay desu.

>>42467404
Yes!!!!

>>42467099
UNF

>>42467303
I has a sad now. Plz draw something to make it go away.

>>42467504
Good things happen to those who wait.

>>42467341
>>42467504
>>42467303
cont

>>42467595
Is he really that badass in the field?

>>42467702
And what was the biggest thing he took down, with or without his animal companions?

>>42467735
It's some Jurassic park kinda shit right here. Birds are scary, even the normally sized ones. How can it even be killed?

>>42467750
"Knowing that their bones are hollow, I used a spell to fell a tree and break it's wing. Once it wasn't able to be airborne, defeating it was easy."

>>42467595
>>42467613
>>42467618
Awww, that’s so sweet.

>>42467723
Those fascinating eyes
Those adorable ears
The elegant,swanlike neck.

>>42467793
Like this, Master?

>>42467771
Nuh-uh. NUH-UH! No way, easy my ass. A grounded giant bird is just a pissed off t-rex who has nothing to lose. I've been chased by my grandmother's geese enough times to know better than to underestimate these monsters. Admit it, you cheated somehow? Do you have a gun hidden somewhere on your body?

>>42467831
"Unlike Equestrians, our weapons are designed with magic in mind. My blade can be used at range, making disjointed attacks that put me in less risk. That is why you don't see grips or hilts on most of our weapon designs. Unfortunately, the Equestrians have figured out technology such as artillery and canon fire, making them more fearsome at range than you would expect. I wasn't born yet, but tales of their ruthlessness against my people used to keep me up at night. I was happy to live in the castle and not near any of the hazard areas left behind. Our army was small and well trained, but it was nothing compared to the numbers of the Equestrian force. I hear that in the case of invasion we are to seek aid from our friends in the wilderness, maybe even dragons themselves... though now that we are allies it is unlikely."

>>42467831
"While I've never actually met them, I am told that my parents both participated in the conflict. Whether this is true or not I cannot say, but I do like to believe that it is. I want to be strong like them... at least, as strong as I imagine them."

>>42467723
I'd fold in an instant

>>42467881

>>42467814
would

>>42467916
"I don't know if I should ruffle my plumage though..."

lol

The beans. Spill them.

So what are the differences between equestrians and these beings that apparently don't have a nation-wide name or a species name?

>>42468266
They have pointier snoots and they’re a little more brazen about servitude. Also they don’t have guns, which makes them a bunch of gay commies. That should have been obvious as soon as the gay prince fucked everything up though.

>>42467723
Thy beautiful blue mane, your piercing gaze, your sharp, chiseled body, as if you are a priceless statue come to life and granted-
>>42467814
No!!!! Not like this!!!!

>>42467613
>>42467618
D’aww, those sweet kids.

>>42468266
Sorry I took so long! Differences are
>sleek
>slightly bigger
>they have their own celestial siblings
>they don't use Friendship as the basis for magic, instead using Love. Not necessarily for another person, but in general. Partly because of the relative instability of this magic, basically everyone has a .000x chance of becoming an alicorn if they are extremely stressed (a lot of the ones who have ascended die from it tho).

Ultimately the point of these guys was to see how Equestrians would deal with much more traditional fantasy unicorns. Equestrians took a different path because of Earth Pony and Pegasi, while these guys were like, fuck it, and put their skill points into magic to the point that they innately use it to help them balance on their pointy feet.

A fun moment in a dnd game I ran was when a player, a unicorn sorcerer, cast Dispel Magic to turn off the hoof magic, and just watched the bad guy start getting crushed by his own weight.

>>42468462
"Sharp and chiseled?"
(Starts getting ripped)

>>42468706
Now that's an idea: Smel wanting to do things with Sight to bond some more, so she takes a potion to get buff as fuck all so she can keep up with him.

>>42468713
Lol. I feel like she would still get damsel with every other breath. "Help! I'm stuck in the mud! AHHHHH! I got stung by bees! Heeeelp! Where did this Japanese squid monster come from?"

Smel! Sight! finish the damn ritual already. I'm literally dying here protecting you from the bone fiends! NO I will not eat your fucking licorice!!! They lied me to !! Red & Black Licorice doesn't taste sweet!! IT TASTES LIKE MEDICINE & MELTED RUBBER

>>42468891
"Wait! I need to trim my floof!"
"You know, I was going to take this seriously but then you made it any candy."
"He's heh. Bones."

>>42468976
>trim my floof
their hoovsies are so pointy they dont even need clippers to do it

>>42460349
>Fluttershy with glasses
I didn't know I needed this.

Well, it’s been done on the show (admittedly in the last seasons, so you may have missed it).

>>42445558 (OP)
Thank you for drawing my little shit

haha, these are all great, you should draw her pregnant tho

>>42470002
It's YOU! Agh! Nice to see you. What is up m'bro?

>>42470009
already did this last time

>>42470002
I demand more of this blue Alicorn right this second (pretty please)

>>42470143
Sorry, that's not my character.
I would credit them but this is 4chan and I know you guys will use the link for evil

>>42470032
Doing alright! About to get busy but I'm good. Drawing random things everyday

>>42470143
I don't want to take over the thread but here's a gif of her sleeping by someone on artfight
>>42470184
lol, I have been lurking this thread
Love all the Smel and Sight

>>42470277
Based. You can derail all you want, friend. I thought this thread would only last two days and here we are, a week later.

>>42470216
Epic

>>42470277
I love her I will kiss her so very softly

>>42470559
Anons with Banshee.
Kiss her soflty

Anons with Smel
DRAW HER PREGNANT!
INCEST!!!
MORE UNF! MORE UNF!

>>42470565
Well come on, you can't just start with that. You oughtta at least get to know a pony a little before you demand to see her get knocked up by a relative.

>>42470583
lol it's cool, it's fun

>>42470565
I also want to softly kiss smel :(
Do I want to give them both foals? Well, yes, but you build up to that!

>>42470706
W-who knocked her up?

>>42470835
IT WAS ME, DIO!

>>42470706
Kek.

Does someone training to be the next High Priestess of Whosiewhatsit or whatever even get to have raw, passionate, bed breaking, body shaking, mind blowing, baby making sex to end up like that?

>>42470706
So do foals have sharp hooves already from birth? How does the mother survive that? Do they cut themselves out C-section style when they're ready? Do babysitters get Hazard pay? How big are those pregnancy teats?[/spoiler

>>42470942
>>42471035
ngl I haven't paid too much thought to how the reproduction works lol

>>42471056
and here u are posting on horsefucker board..................
(its ok though i love smel please come visit again someday)

>>42468891
>She had to go
>She was going to spoil the party

Bump

>>42470706
Kiss preggo belly

>>42468891
The blanks... The blanks...

>>42470184
for evil?
Us?

>>42473402
I would love to see Smel interact with Cozy since it seems like the manipulation just wouldn't work on her

>page 8
Time to let this thread die?

>>42474207
Probably. I think I've had enough of drawing these characters for a while.

>>42474244
One last pic of Smel and Sight waving goodbye and saying “See you next time”?

>>42471035
Newborn foals have feathers:
https://thebarngoddesschronicles.com/2022/02/17/horsefeathers-are-real/

>>42475017
weird

>>42475169
>>42475709
Indeed, but they protect the mother from her baby, and we can extrapolate horse feathers to the horn of a unicorn, and perhaps even the wings of a pegasi.

>>42476550
thanks I'm now terrified of equine infants I hope you are happy

>>42476607
"Daddy! Give me a hug!" (Squelching sounds)

>>42476607
It falls off in a day

>>42477143
These characters mean a lot to me. I have to stop drawing them now. Maybe I'll see you in another 6 months.

>>42477143
I'll miss you :‘(

ever managed to do the trump one from a while back? or still no luck?

>>42477152
I'm definitely looking forward to their return. it shall be a truely blessed sight to behold.

BTW, did you ever manage that trump meme? or still no good?

>>42477143
>>42477152
COME BAAAAAAAAACK

>>42477389
Sorry, time is up
>When?
>I'll be doing this for at least 48 hours, I'll probs end up doing requests until the board dies. I'm only human and if I don't get to yours in time, I'm sorry, just enjoy what we did get. Last time there were people who got theirs skipped because they were being uncreative and begging for pony pu-

>>42477637
Thanks for the fun thread and great art, hope I can catch the next one you make when you come back!

>>42477637
Love your threads, can't wait to see ya again <3

>>42477143
*Sad horny mare noises*

Relative asked me to draw this so I guess it might as well be the last pic.

>>42476749
NOOOO

Mushroom.

>>42477152
Hope to see you then.

>>42477637
Thank you for a wonderful thread.

so the brother is in love with his own sister, but does his sister reciprocate? seems platonic

>>42479637
cute but do not let her anywhere near the kitchen knives I don't trust her

Fungus.

>>42480353
Mushroom.

>>42481038
Yes.

Go eat a big bowl of mushroom stew.

>>42481580
Trying to bump a good thread, maybe the creator takes pity and draws some more? heh fine kiddo I sympathize.