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Previous: >>127033925

MLG 360 noscope, or something like that

>>127113482
Why prophet 10?

>>127113848
It’s better

Thanks for not bullying me, random cruel anon. My suicidal thoughts have subsided... for now.

go next i think...
it happens... it happens..,,,

https://vocaroo.com/18aGmTt7IWAD

>>127114698
8) dat ending starting around 0:54 got me pumped

>>127114822
Thx may reuse it who knows

>>127113514 (OP)
Fixed that for you

>>127113514 (OP)
>>127116976
OTT

when did you guys get into music production? for me it was technically 2007 when i was fucking around on audacity with my high school band and achieving nothing. i later discovered acid pro in 2013 and finally found out what a DAW was

hey guys how do i make this choir sound thingy at the VERY BEGINNING of this song https://youtu.be/dp9ch-dAKk0

>>127117779
Download any workstation keyboard VST and scroll through the choir presets

>>127113514 (OP)
>>127116976
the EQ one is wrong. that more properly describes high/low pass filters (which so does the L I M I T one). the EQ one should "chop" his body into vertical slices and then elongate some of them and squish others

What do people think of Ardour as a DAW? I think it's one of the few FOSS Daws

I was trying pretty hard to write stuff this past few years and nothing really came of it. now i just mess around i guess but I still want to make an album

this is some fuck around bull shit

https://vocaroo.com/1gjXDhRCof04

I posted this last week but would like some more pointers/criticism on it
https://voca.ro/17g3TP8WPxVB
>>127119296
The beginning sounds like side scroller music. What would the vocals be like? Sounds the most like punk to me.

today i am going to try a less wub approach to writing wub that is both more autistic and more musical

Would you date somebody just to get a collab or two out of them?

100% serious question. I don't know where my morals sit.

>>127121368
I would date literally anyone with or without ulterior motives.

Bout ta doo doo in da terlet

>>127121606
Fuck wrong thread lol.

>>127121606
>>127121619

>>127113514 (OP)
i dont know what im doing help
https://vocaroo.com/1eLx4gQ510y7

damn armin played a sandstorm remix in a set, it's pretty good, it's an ID, so I wonder whose it is...
https://youtu.be/XB2eFP0_6ME?t=4245

>>127122343
I prefer this version:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DuOLQE8Q8DE

>>127122286
I like that bassy kick sound but it doesn't fit the song imo

t. prod tourist

produced music is fake and gay

Low pass filters or multiband compression?

>>127123766
The fuck kind of retarded question is that
>Toothbrush or hair comb?

>>127124111
Some people don’t know about different brushes though…

>>127124111
you can still brush your teeth with a haircomb although your mouth might start bleeding

https://voca.ro/1o2VnAQEPgUE
A loop I just made. What do you think? Not sure how to proceed with this.

>>127124111
A toothbrush and a hairbrush are both brushes

>simple question
>no answer. only degradation

you either don’t know, you’re a fucking asshole, or both.

>>127124742
Welcome to /prod/

>>127124111
You either eliminate bands entirely or tame them with compression. I dont think anon asked a dumb question, maybe they're a little ignorant

>>127124742
How do you compare two entirely different processors with zero context given. The question makes no sense at all. Comparing MBC with a dynamic eq would be reasonable, but the question what the fuck do you actually want to achieve with them remains.

>>127123766
>>127124742
You use EQ when you want something reduced by a consistently or want to completely get rid of an area.
Multiband compression/EQ is for momentarily altering the sound and helping it stay in a pocket.

E.g do you want *nothing* above 4k, or do you want that stuff above 4k but you don't want it to exceed a certain volume either for certain parts, or across the entire track (in which case you'd use a high compression ratio)

sleep creep...ing.... creeping...

https://vocaroo.com/11xci7bD2WIh

>>127122286
>https://vocaroo.com/1eLx4gQ510y7
something about the mix in the first song sounds deeply unsatisfying.
the second track sounds better although it gets a little boring

https://vocaroo.com/15BYOfSxOplc

https://vocaroo.com/17m91mzofLz0

... >:(
give me your power

>>127126551
These are tight as shit do you like Audeka ?
Captcha: mynan

>>127126656
Thanks.
Idk who that is but I guess i'll have to check em out lol

>>127124434
Pretty cool, sounds halloween themed. I reckon you absolutely fill that 23 seconds with stereotypical halloween stock sounds. Wolf howl, spooky laugh, ghost wail, creaking door, clap of thunder etc. etc.

I wish the schizos weren't so good at making music

re: strings alt strums etc
so i totes forgot this feature existed in vital because i hardly use it because i'm a musical control freak:

this random afaik/iirc is a random value that resets per-note-on ; you can remap it onto whatever as a switch i suppose to give an alternating modulation as opposed to a "random" lfo or stepper.

i'm doing the thing and it just reminded me of your post since it's applicable

I have a hard time getting new listeners even though my stuff has been so far approved to almost every metal spotify playlist I've submitted songs to. Any advice? Any big playlists?

>>127127796
Bumping for this anon. I don't have any experience marketing my own music, so I'll just say congrats on the playlist placement, at least.

What's a good straightforward way of creating beats with samples? I initially wanted to get a Roland SP-404 MK2 because I heard good things about it. Then watched some youtube tutorials and it looks so inefficient complicated with all the menu diving etc. Isn't it much better to just get ableton with a midi controller? Then I can also do the mastering, etc in it without transfering audio files all the time. Or am I missing something?

>>127128036
Thanks brother

if my mixes sound bad in mono, what do i do to fix it?

>>127128222
Chances are it already sounds bad in stereo

>>127128250
you're probably right but im not linking my mixes here anymore

>>127128222
Nice trips. What kind of music are you making? Stuff where you're recording with mics/live instruments, or samples and virtual instruments?

>>127128346
post rock but with amp sims and an acoustic drum kit agent so i'm still getting used to using IRs as well

>>127128362
Ah, gotcha. If you're using plugins for all that, I'd think any phase issues are probably introduced in the mixing/mastering process. What's the problem you're noticing in mono specifically? Instruments disappearing (to an extent)? Are you using anything in your mixes/masters that widens the stereo image?

>>127128390
>What's the problem you're noticing in mono specifically?
just sounds like a major dip in fidelity/loses energy
>Instruments disappearing (to an extent)?
not quite
>Are you using anything in your mixes/masters that widens the stereo image?
yeah, three guitars panned left, right and centre respectively and some ping pong delay on the centre guitars.

>>127128404
You’d lose volume on the l and r guitars don’t worry about it

>>127128404
Interesting. It's hard for me to make recommendations without hearing the mix, but I completely understand not posting your shit here. I don't do that at this point, either.

>>127113514 (OP)
>Expander

>>127128530
>dogue

>>127128659
>expand dogue

>>127113514 (OP)
Acoustic cover

>>127127232
what does pic related sound like, can you post us a little sample?

hi /prod/, newfag here. First time making my own music, I use LMMS. Plz don't judge too hard
https://voca.ro/15VdGlUJn6o6

>>127129976
>gif
That's a very clear sign that that dog is being abused and will probably bite someone soon

>>127129526
Cool. I resampled some of your song and made it sound like walking home alone late at night through a deserted industrial estate while having a panic attack.

https://vocaroo.com/1mtXTcr00Lbb

>>127129976
>that part at 0:35
holy shit
Also am I retarded or is the BPM constantly increasing?

>>127132324
Wow, that's kind of creepy... What DAW do you use to make this stuff?

>>127127796
Nobody listens to anything new ever. There's too much out there. Endowing virtually anyone on earth with access to mediocre music production and pretend distribution marked the end of the musical era of the 20th century when acts could form or individuals could rise to fame and be recognized as something special. We're heading back to the way things were for much of history where someone being able to perform music was, at the most, a nice addition for a get together. Just like everything else, boomers experienced this insanely opulent, unnatural window in history where virtually the whole of reality was especially tailored to their every desire, the absolute peak of humanity's bending the world at its whim, and at the price of every future generation that will follow into the imaginable future.

>>127123766
For what?

>>127128222
Identify what’s out of phases what’s going quiet etc.
Narrow width, adjust phase. m/s eq- those are what you fix everything with.
(also potentially switching to linear phase eq for multimic stuff may help but you have to have really fucked up your eq)

People act like this is some weird black magic but it’s actually a very straight forward process.
I highly recxend the (free) plugin correlates by voxengo. must have meter.

>>127134577
Voxengo correlometer

Sorry I just woke up

Bros how do I make percussion like this? Its impactful but no strident. It's electronic but feels human. Help.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eimOSblG5m0

>>127136405
what the toms?
"impact" wise most of that is to do with the arrangement being so minimal.
electronic but "warm" "human" so on and so on is a lot of things coming together- just skimming through this i hear a lot of intention with the delay selection (bbd, tape etc), and how it hits distortion (try tube or tape saturation).
obviously you can try doing this stuff less quantized or played by hand, but imo that's not really the defining factor of what makes it so dynamic. it's more the automation over time (pertaining to the previously mentioned effects) and the velocity.
if you're not already you need to be automating the shit out of all that and your reverb tails and blah blah.

if we're being real though everybody making this type of stuff is probably spamming kontakt libraries

how to stop making slop and drop music altogether? love the process still realization that it'll always be slop hits hard

still tried my hand at something dnb-ish
https://voca.ro/1br2az2obrr9

>>127129244
https://vocaroo.com/1lCddLYmegZe

I need to get a cohesive demo together and potentially have an official release in the next few months but I keep wasting my time on mixing songs that go no where and do nothing simply for the sake of "practising mixing" but its such an awful habit and i hate it. How do I get out of this rut?

>>127136965
>https://voca.ro/1br2az2obrr9
this could be so much more if you just work on the songwriting some more. i don't think i heard a single melody in the track unless you count those bells somewhere in the mix

something simple. working out vocals. might use autotune but on like a return track idk maybe

https://voca.ro/1gOFJchy3Y65

>>127137888
>return track
phase issues don't do that

also no offense but these tracks are starting to sound same-y shovel-y.
the drum sound especially is sticking out across every vocaroo

>>127137167

That anon. Yeah, those bells are "melody" part

>>127138011
noted. will change up the drum sounds. thank you.

how the FRICK does massive x not include the drive wavetable(s) what the fuck

Bump

I love making terrible songs. I usually just use a midi for a song I like and then I change up the instruments and then cram in some garbage samples, layer some instruments to change it up so it can't be recognized any more and then I shit it out for my 3 friends to listen to. The mixing is done terribly. This is my passion.

>>127135661
i like this

>>127132555
I use FL Studio, but you could make shitposts like that in literally any DAW using sample chopping and time stretching bullshit.

the past few days i keep sensing people that aren't there and getting hair in my mouth when i try to eat it's actually starting to pmo and OF COURSE mercury would be in retrograde fucking UGH actually throwing me fuucking mirror just FIX IT

https://vocaroo.com/1gXBdiCMfNDQ

>>127142591
Maybe it's the mp3 compression or something, but it somehow sounds busier and fuller than it should.

Untame anon here. Date night was great. She said the song "wasn't cringe at all" (I fucked up by saying it might be cringe) and that she "loved it and it sounds official".

Wrote a song about my anxiety in all this. Let me know what you think. Did this in about 30 minutes before work when I woke up with this thought on my mind. It's kinda 90s alternative mixed with emo vibes

https://vocaroo.com/19p8rofA6swk

Addictive Drums for the drums, guitar is a Jaguar HH Player Series. That's about all that's on the track. Lmk how the mix sounds.

>>127144610
No it's because the retard cranks up the LUFS so his slop sounds louder than regular stuff

I'm on a mission to map out every combination of notes to corresponding feelings.
AMA

>>127145828
But they post way louder stuff and it doesn't sound like this one

>>127146481
>they
Stop samefagging

>>127146617
This is nice anon but I feel like you lose a lot in the mix once the melody comes in full. Your hihats especially get lost and personally I feel like they can be tightened up a lot more and really made to pop and shimmer with some adequate ADSR adjustments and saturation/distortion

>>127146617
Pretty cool. I personally think the hi hats are fine.

>>127146573
Kys

Why does everything I make sound like garbage?
https://voca.ro/14KeMB4RExUF

>>127147085
>>127147446
i got two hihats, both were hitting at -18db combined. I boosted one of them(showing -11db) with what's shown in the pic (and changed the melody).
https://vocaroo.com/1eeWbhej8Bw5

>>127144610
hm, i did a massive x patch kinda diva styled with a lot of parallel hypeing that's kind of... a certain sound. lotta noise and low mid.
thanks i might dial that back.

>>127147797
Yeah theres a lot more transparency here. Idk how much time you spent on the project not knocking the fast dist or anything but if you had maybe Decapitator on it instead I think you could achieve even better results in the same amount of time. Decap is nuts on drums or anything you need to add a bit of oomph in a pinch

So since you can distort and dust up the sound of vinyls and casettes through manipulation of the signal (saturation, cracks and pops), does there exist a similiar way to meddle with the sound of a CD?

>>127148074
i spent less than 2hours on it, ill look into Decap thanks

full edit
thoughts?

https://vocaroo.com/1O7LtQESwviV

>>127147797
>>127148074
>>127147085
it's because the other hats and the synth are all fighting for the same spot.
adding more isn't the move when stuff isn't cutting through. if just boosting doesn't work you need to be looking at EQ, not more distortion.

I am looking for videos that compare demo tracks to studio versions, videos that showcase good musicians (ones I know, not literal who's on Youtube) using crap gear, basically trying to find comparisons that include songs/artists I actually fucking know so I can get a better idea of just how much 'the studio' mattered to their sound. I'm kinda trying to figure out if I wanna pull the trigger on funding a studio trip to record a few songs or not. I can't genuinely understand what difference it would create since I have never done "professional' recording. All my instruments are done line-in so the bass, guitars, drums are all in perfect quality and I don't imagine I'd get a different sound for those but the vocals I record on a ~$100 mic and I suck ass at mixing so I feel like it might be worth going to record all the vocals and getting it mixed but idk. Help me out, I tried some youtube searches and found nothing other than a few clickbait "Here's a 47 cent microphone vs a $90,000 one look how they sound the same because I actually just recorded both on the $90,000 one and then EQ'd it to sound shitty" videos.
Like, I don't have THE BEST ear or anything but I can listen to Kill Em All, even the remastered version, and notice that there is no fucking comparison between that audio crispness/quality and MoP; Kill Em All sounds like garage demo recordings, hell on a few songs you can even hear some fuck-ups on the rhythm guitar that just got overlooked. So like in that instance I can tell there is a HUGE improvement by using a great studio buuuuuuuut that's on gear from 40 years ago, my worst vocal tracks on this shit mic have crispier quality than KeA did and my instruments are much clearer. I'm not 1/10th the musician but from a quality perspective my ears know I have clearer and more defined recordings.
Thanks for reading my reddit blog or whatever, please help kappa

>>127148503
Very cool things going on but when the drop finally comes through, all your bass sounds are fighting each other. Its feels like a crowd of people all shoving past each other for your attention. You have a long bass shot on the 1 that extends throughout the whole bar that I feel is causing the most offense. Its not letting your 16th note stabs do what they're supposed to do. They get lost in all the chaos from your bass sounds. You have a few choices in the matter but from my own experience this could be solved by taking your bass sounds and notching out with EQ, the space on the frequency spectrum where your other bass sounds will be landing. Essentially carving out a space on the frequency for each sound to be layered on top of one another. You want to use very precise notch cuts here because you're cutting small, fundamental frequencies. And you want your cuts to mirror each other. Ex: if Bass 1 fundamental is hitting 1.5k and you cut out 1.8k because that's where Bass 2 will be hitting, then Bass 2 will notch out 1.5k

>>127148708
The Decap stuff is mainly sound design advice but I feel like theres a few very minor mixing things he can do to make space for everything without having to rewrite the melody or change the composition entirely

>>127149255
>I can't genuinely understand what difference it would create since
You just established what your bottle neck is (not the gear).

*You* in a studio with a bunch of expensive toys will probably lead to a slight difference in quality.
You and *somebody who knows what they're doing* to "produce" you would be noticeable, but the difference in that scenario still isn't the gear.

There are like a million things to talk about with your request and why it's a pointless errand, but the main things are:
>asking for YouTube type content from non-YouTubers who you actually care about (they have no incentive to create this, and if it exist it's on pateron probably from somebody you don't care about *that much*).
>Every situation that you will fiind happened where the studio "made *the* difference* happened decades ago when good gear wasn't readily accessible to everybody and there dog

The easier not-quite red or even pinkish pill to seek out is listening to old demos, studio demos, and alternate mixes.
First one that comes to mind is Nirvana.
You can *hear* the songs are just fucking better than anybody else in Kurts shitty 4track demos.
The "quality" of all the (unmixed) band demos isn't "good" but they sound way better than any randoms produced and mixed bandcamp uploads.
The Albini mixes are clearly different and "rawly" produced compared to alternate commercial releases. (They aren't better idg why so many people want to be contrarian about that.)

anyway tl;dr don't bother unless you're paying somebody for creative input.

it probably would have been quicker to just point to any random studio and check their testimonies/output and then look at that same bands early releases to hear what difference there is (i.e there are always case in point examples where throwing money around made these bands sound "polished" but not good.)

>>127149470
Appreciate detailed response.
So it kinda circles back to the idea that painting a turd gold still doesn't change the fact that it's a turd? I feel like the stuff I make and the level of quality it is at currently is listenable for sure and I feel like an organic audience would definitely gravitate to it if released onto streaming/if I began playing out, I think my major concern with it all is just the idea that people won't appreciate music that is not super sparkly crystal clean and produced by expensive shit because they're so god damn used to it all being that way that when Spotify/etc shuffles to something of mine they'll be like "Did this guy record on a toaster" by comparison and even though the chord progressions, lyrics and vocal melodies, riffs and drum beats are at minimum up to par it might still just make the musician thing seem like a waste of time. Idk, I have a lot of fuckin tism and constantly worry about what people are thinking even though their brain probably never has a sentient thought and they run on impulse and just do what [flavor of the week influencer] tells them to do.
I should probably just put my shit out there and let it sink or swim on it's own and stop caring I'd imagine.

>>127149642
>So it kinda circles back to the idea that painting a turd gold still doesn't change the fact that it's a turd?
Pretty much. Some people will disagree, and of course one could argue that so long as a certain standard of quality is met that polished turds can still make a career if your marketing is good (imo in todays climate that's kind of a different career path than "musician" and is more of an influencer, but that's a different conversation).

>people won't appreciate music that is not super sparkly crystal clean
I mean there are like a million examples of that not being the case at all spanning back decades; even now stuff that isn't supposed to be explicitly lo-fi gets popular even when it sounds like shit.

if you're not heavily lurking social media (tiktok) to see what newer bands are getting popular, both sparkly and not, i highly recommend it.
obviously most stuff that gets popular is relatively well made but i promise there are still bands gaining traction who don't sound that great but just have good songs that people gravitate to regardless.

I've reined in my template slightly to start from the very basics; a gluey compressor on the mix buss with slight eq and limiter, compressed drums and saturation on guitar and bass. What else should I include for top down mixing? I'm thinking tape saturation on the mix buss too

>>127149255
You’re asking if recording and mixing professionally matters or not. You could spend 5 years learning yourself or pay a pro. I would say it does matter, ‘cause there’s a likely danger your mixes and DIY stuff is unpleasant / harsh/ annoying to listen to because it isn’t treated well as a production. You think kill em all is bad? Your mix can be way worse and you won’t know what’s wrong with it to fix it, meanwhile it doesn’t matter if your music is good, when the sound is bad

>>127150116
>saturation on guitar and bass
Why not just increase the gain on the amp or through the knobs on the instrument slightly?
For drums it might just be a personal thing I can't get away from but I don't think compression is necessary and I think it takes the human element out of the sound. Sometimes the hits are lighter or harder, same with acoustic guitars and strum/pick intensity, and if you level it off you're making it seem robotic. I can understand if something is inaudible entirely but otherwise I'd just run room mics and let it be. Disregard this if you're using programmed stuff or an electronic kit I guess, different shit then.

>>127150306
The saturation is less about making it loud and moreso toneshaping. They sound decent without saturation but just adds a bit of warmth to both. As for compression on drums, I can't seem to get them to pump or shine without compression. Distortion or saturation could also work here but its mostly just a work in progress. I am using a drum program that has a few different acoustic agents which my brother can use via a midi connection to his electric drum kit so im trying to consider live jam sessions too. We also play live on twitch sometimes

>>127148503
NGL I was vibing along. The percussion in the intro however sound like they're playing in a different room.

>>127150296
I don't think it's bad at all I just know there's a huge difference in the gear it was recorded on compared to every album after it, and I feel like my current sound quality with my bedroom recording setup is hovering around 1999-2004 levels. If you put Seek And Destroy on then switch to Cyanide for example it's like a demo tape vs a finished mastered product, and in the modern era it feels like people won't be as likely to listen to something that's fuzzy and at times hard to discern the words or exact licks played (like in some KeA tracks such as Whiplash, Jump In The Fire, Phantom Lord most noticeably) in favor of listening to perfectly crafted radio-ready stuff that's all pretty and such. I'm not sure how to really explain this, my mind has the idea but the words to describe it correctly probably aren't what I'm using. I guess I could hope to appeal to people in my own age range since I and all the people I know have no issue with listening to older music, but the path to getting booked for shows seems to be that you have to appeal to the majority of people which means the 'modern audience' of zoomzooms and younger millennials and those types flock to heavily processed, heavily produced music it seems and not anything that has a shred of the grit that went into the playing performance left in it. I'm trying not to sound like a cliche old angry rock guy but I probably still do.

how are trent and atticus this consistent?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Sj-FmI5JfA

>ballad
https://voca.ro/11LTxaFgtvBJ

>>127113514 (OP)
Doggy dog trip hop to go with the OP
https://voca.ro/1feYu0tfHWOk

>>127113514 (OP)
i just bought my first violin, it's arriving in a few days, pretty exited.

>>127151331
Very nice. I woulkd love to learn violin and wish I had when I was in school.

>>127150780
>consistent?
repeating the same things over and over lol

>>127151508
no
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rL0s_pJVpYU

i now know why my bass tone and general presence has been so shit, the jaguar bass i have actually sucks and the pickups need to be changed. you get what you pay for i suppose

>>127151696
80 percent of guitar problems can be solved by installing decent pickups

>>127151684
The NIN song absolutely is a repetition of sounds they already covered- down to the chord progression even.
I don't have any thoughts on half~ of his soundtrack work because I haven't listened to it because i'm not interested, but the good among it was also the same sound found on ghost, and the fragile to some extent.

I fucking love Tront but he hasn't done anything amazing (that i've heard) since Bad Witch.
Please do recommend something if I'm wrong though lol.

>>127151696
Does it..?

You ever watch those “squirt vs fender vs (vintage/luxury) “ videos on YouTube?
There’s a noticeable difference past the lowest models but it becomes negligible very quickly as you climb price

>>127150893
beautiful bassline

I've got to make it

>>127152234
The humbuckers sound very muddy and uncharacteristic. I've heightened the pick ups and got rid of some fret buzz but it struggles to compete with my squire jazz bass. I was hoping for something aggressive with the jaguar but it sounds extremely muted

>>127151342
i'm 27, i haven't played once.
it's never too late !

i'm just excited.

i also regret not getting one sooner, but i'd regret not getting one today in a decade.

ngl i totes forgot you could do this since i stopped tryharding wavetables

https://vocaroo.com/11BBXXIz9g1j

I love using clips from movies but I struggle to find perfect ones. My favorite quotes are from comedies that when placed in a different atmosphere hit a little harder. I’ve used the clip from Tommy Boy where Richard breaks down and yells at Tommy saying he didn’t have a dad and Tommy took it for granted. I’m working on a song now with the napoleon dynamite clip with the uncle talking about throwing the football over the mountains. Any other movie clips along these lines that would work well?

Don't you think the best song will cut through everything

>>127153306
ya duh

>>127153311
Proceed

>>127153348
with what?
i already know. i don't know what you don't know.

my synth won't stay in tune bls halp ;~;

https://vocaroo.com/18v7DshH3qrl

>>127153673
This is what the new Bieber album should have sounded like.
Cool seaguls too :3

>>127153685
maybe. i quite liked (these) + the overall sound it went for but the songwriting just fell of a cliff after that first leg and i could definitely hear it going more... like that.

there have been like a hundred *main stream* pop stars that went rogue and came up with way more interesting sounds in the past few years, as well as a lot of other r&b and ex soundcloud stars in that area that he could have followed or even collaborated with....
like dude if selena gomez and addison can do shit like that i can't believe anybody operating on the level he does would see that shit and make a fucking "no i'm black on the inside!" skit like bro what are you doing lol.

... sorry i loved those few songs but it's *worse* when you can see a vision for somebody than if they were just straight up bad...

>>127153784
MM, perhaps I'll give them another shot since I only listened to the album once.
Is that Thursday's Full Collapse that I spy in one of those 4-album images? Very nice (the live album is better) :)

>>127153810
Idk im just pop brained lately, and clearly a sucker for dx7 piano lol

yeah it is :p
I’ll have to check them out. I started listening occasionally again for the first time since high school after you got me into glass jaw

>>127153842
>them
that* (I didn’t know they had live albums :()

>>127153842
>after you got me into glass jaw
lol, you got me 8) I'm also a sucker for pop, but I mainly just listen to that kind of music when I'm driving and sometimes on Saturday nights when my local station has DJs play uninterrupted mixes.
Good night, friend.
>>127152991
>it's never too late !
Hell yeah, dude. I agree with this as well and am hooked on always learning new things. I've got a decade on you, but even I feel like I have a good twenty years before the arthritis would set in.
Enjoy your new musical journey!

i feel like im going around in circles with this fucking shit

>>127088734
does this rar file not work or is linux just acting up?

>>127154665
so just do a 360 and walk away STUPID

you're supposed to pick a spot in the distance and focus on it

>>127154737
thats the thing, i have no idea what i need to focus on anymore. i keep fucking things up and making no progress

>>127154746
pick big goal break down into small goal :thumbs_up:

>>127154757
i dont want to be an embarrassment to myself and others

>>127154780
embarrassment is a choice or something

i know you're maybe half joking but i saw like a 240 p self help clip on old youtube where the guy said something like "[insults] aren't what hurt you, it's your own belief that what people say may be right that hurts you" and then i watched idioterne and fell off the wagon. wait

uh, believe in yourself

>>127154805
>i know you're maybe half joking
im not, im frustrated at always hitting a brick wall when i think im making incremental progress and i just dont have any direction or guide on where to go. there's a endless stream of information for mixing, recording and songwriting and i have no idea where i am (or who i am). im stuck and i can't break free
>"[insults] aren't what hurt you, it's your own belief that what people say may be right that hurts you"
makes sense

>>127154844
>i have no idea where i am (or who i am)
mmm, i feel like it rarely comes up in this general, but for an artist that's extremely problematic imo.

if you don't have a strongly established sense of taste and self (and an understanding of *why* you feel a certain way or why things affect you) then it's very difficult to make art with conviction, or have the sense to arrive at anything that you would think is good, because.... well how could you if you don't even know what you're aiming for or have any conscious thoughts about it?
maybe i'm reaching, but that all needs to be sorted first imo.

>>127154905
i completely agree. and you know maybe im just clinging onto a dream that died long ago and im lying to myself. a wasted youth now in adulthood with no higher education or sought after skills, just a dumb prole withering away. an extra in my own life

>>127154942
maybe...

or maybe you can still just have fun making music and stop putting pressure on yourself to reach some nebulous goal that's just a black cloud hanging over you ruining something that's supposed to bring joy idk tho

match EQ'ing by ear makes me feel like a fucking neanderthal will pro-q4 fix me? 8(

https://vocaroo.com/11uIQzrOfxtm
updated the mix a bit lmk what you think

master is overrated

>>127154110
thank you, it arrives on monday apparently.
i'm so excited the instrument seems so fun.

i do play a little guitar too but violin seems like it's the instrument that has what guitar was missing for me.

though, it'll probably sound like a dying cat for a little while hahaha

>>127154959
You are right but a habit of mine is to carry the corpses of my lost opportunities and use them as a shield against maturing and self actualising. I'm not sure I'll ever get out of this self loathing

arrangement is like creating your own puzzle and then trying to solve it

https://voca.ro/15CD2tQvkdJZ
Voice warning?
First time ever posting here. After uploading to vocaroo i realised holy fuck i fucked up huge with eq haha. Anyways i have a huge question to ask as a beginner. I always start with synth and go from it but i have no idea how to put drums or samples or voices or any other thing over my synth. How do i come over this hurdle? So the beat goes nowhere because i feel like i have no idea what to do next really.

>>127156041
Love it. The GSYBE and have a nice life influence is recognizable.

>>127156041
>All about the rhythm guitar
Guitar sounds pretty out of tune; I get leaving it a bit out of tune as an effect but sounds bad on the current recording imo. Also, the tremolo on the guitar is ducking the guitar at the worst time, try adjusting the speed or maybe just switching effects. The setting your tremolo is at would work well with long drawn out notes but you are strumming on every beat and the tremolo is also trying to go every beat. Also the guitar is super dull, it needs more highs. Go and listen to the rhythm guitar in a Red House Painters or Galaxie 500 song (literally put one of their songs in your mixing project file) and compare.

>>127157148
Cool melodies. get a drum sample pack / drum machine / drum library, and layer your synths with rhythms that move with the phrasing of your melodies

i need a fucking miracle man

>>127157200
thanks bro thats a huge compliment

>>127157760
not sure how it sounds out of tune i tuned right before recording? i don't really hear it but maybe i'm just deaf. i'll look into it. i'm going to try and EQ the guitar or change some of the amp sim settings to bring more highs out of the guitar and see what i can do about the tremolo. i really appreciate the input dude.

https://vocaroo.com/15VoQTgcaUDX
rough mix

>>127157148
Learn drum fundamentals. Here's the babby basics (in a 4/4 context)
>beats 1 & 2 are your DOWNBEATS, usually your kick will play on one or both of these
>beats 3 & 4 are your BACKBEATS, usually your snare will play on one or both of them
>8th beats (1 - and - 2 - and - 3 - and - 4 - and - ) are played by your HiHats, but there's room to experiment with groove a lot; 16th-beat hats are also common for a more upbeat (faster) feel
>velocity (intensity) of drum hits are extremely important. The same rhythmic pattern can have a very different feel simply by changing velocity of the hits
The above should give a good starting point for most things, then you can adjust to taste.
Note that this is NOT a one-size-fits all guide, there are many types of drum patterns out there. Depending on the style of music you're making, the strongest beats (DOWNBEATS) may lie elsewhere.

PROTIP:
>beatbox into a mic over your own music
Even if you're shit at beatboxing it can help you figure out where the "strong" beats lie and what sort of groove you might need, you can use this as a guide to arrange your drum patterns
It takes practice to get good at beatmaking.

>>127149255
you should go to a studio in your city to do it instead of wondering. the difference is partly the gear and partly having a guy who has much more experience than you and knows what they are doing. just get one track or one session mixed by the engineer. such things used to relatively cheap but who knows these days. do some research though about which studio fits the sound you want.

>>127154665
list your failings and mistakes. be explicit.

>>127157827
>>127159313
thanks a lot for the suggestions.
tried to come up with a really short section to implement this. https://voca.ro/191ptd0VUqRB i think i still dont understand the velocity stuff and need to check some stuff. is there any free drum machine vst? also i searched for guitar ones but i dont what i should look for i know its not gonna be good to implement guitar sounds in a daw but what do you guys suggest?

>>127150893
Incredible composition

>>127159969
Velocity means how hard the thing is hit, 128 being hit hard 1 hit soft. It is de facto volume usually within a daw, but some instruments have more than one sample within a note to show the hitting hard transition in tone and oomph, like piano

playback hell

>>127161708
literally just don’t baka

how the track transitions at 0:31 and 1:34
vocaroo.com/13bh5B0ZxN7u
>>127160892
fucking cool, there's a click sound at 1:07 and 3:00

RIP to a good chunk of /prod/ history

native instruments effects are SO good wtf

i just wish they paid me more to talk about it all the time

>>127162439
i did not need this nostalgia pain man wtf

i trust there is already a demarcus archive...

>>127162439
;_;
logged in just so I could share this guy's profile: https://clyp.it/user/jkx2r0jf

>>127162439
One of the last things I uploaded was a joke Covid song in early 2020. RIP. I will have to archive everything because why not.

https://clyp.it/p1y1k2zm?token=a40b340a6d6492f68cb0c771cd71782d

>>127164262
>clyp.it
Holy shit I just unearthed a bunch of old fucking demos from five fucking years ago I forgot they existed

https://clyp.it/aar1p15x
I dont even think I knew how to sidechain correctly here

https://vocaroo.com/12bDqvnrQW9l

I feel like it's missing something. Also, are any of the elements too harsh for the rest of the song?

Here's another version I tried:

https://vocaroo.com/16BSKU6Tx0S7

I personally like 2 better, but I also have shit opinions, as evidenced by my thought that sampling is fun as fuck.

>>127117257
My special needs friend (not even shitting you) said he wanted to rap to improve his speech impediment. He asked me to make beats for him since I played guitar. I didn't know shit about it, but I pirated FL Studio and tried. He eventually stopped trying to rap (meth will do that to you), but I kept making my shitty beats. Still fun.

>>127128071
It's a fun sampler. I used to take it on trips and shit. Hammering out a beat in an airport feels like the ultimate hipster activity.

>>127165512
my friend got into a "rap beef" online against a guy who was famous on worldstar due to their looking extremely similar.
...
the beef ended when it came out that the guy was some kind of special needs (and purportedly taking the disses seriously, as he was legitimately trying to rap and *not* turn himself into the lolcow he was) so obviously he felt bad.
damn...

totally didn't steal anything

https://vocaroo.com/1nUsBjm8Q45f

bump

how the fuck pendulum made those bangers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yw0y5GuepU

b the lick giving advice again

warning: unbelievably gay

https://vocaroo.com/116ZjR9acvyS

how unbearable is the clashing?
how too loud is the bass?
these headphones cost 4 dollars idk what i'm doing anymore

i like the vibe i had going here and the overall texture but not sure how to structure it into a cohesive song
https://voca.ro/16zfeEjyXWnW

Opinions on instruments / effects from D16?

prod

>>127170702
I mean yeah. Don’t know why anyone would use a retro drum machine in this day and age when great new drum sounds are easy to come by. Their analogue tone eq shaper effect boxes are really cool. Like if you want your track to sound like different kinds of cassette tapes. But they are alll quite old now and maybe have been improved

>>127170702
people cared about anything they did other than decimort?
honestly i don't even know why that one picked up popularity- i've never heard or seen anything about it that sticks out

What is the most common genre posted in here? I feel like theres definitely a /prod/ genre and it isn't dance music. Though there is the odd "EDM Broducer" in here it feels like thread leans into more shoegazey, soft-rock, emo adjacent stuff. Some heady electronic stuff more often too, but usually more indie dance oriented or lofi or synthwave. I dont think I've never heard someone try and make pop or hiphop here.

>>127150893
Very nice actually

>>127173986
>shoegazey, soft-rock, emo adjacent
bro where lmao
you've noted a handful of people who just do the most consistent posting

imo it's more of a genreless "new producer xD" sound

>>127174033
>imo it's more of a genreless "new producer xD" sound
This hurts more than I'd like to admit

>>127174033
Eh just my observations, namely Source: My Ass. Just feels like /prod/ucers are usually trying to incorporate real instruments, namely, guitars. People who've come in here with their "i bought ableton 3 months ago here's my first song" either figure it out or they dont. I think most of those posters probably quit within a year

this is sounding quite good. first time ive directed all time based effects to a dedicated buss. it cleared up the mix significantly.

>>127173986
ive posted a few shoegaze/post rock projects here before

i'm making an indie album. i'm still writing lyrics, that's by far the hardest thing to do
https://vocaroo.com/17k5jJihP9mi
https://vocaroo.com/19Dt6K2P2NYY
https://vocaroo.com/1e5CcBkqpjaf
https://vocaroo.com/17S87GQWLp6g

trying something new

>>127174858
wtf bro lol

>>127175227
i'd offer an explanation but i dont care enough to really justify why

>>127175236
the only way i can imagine this organized seems like a mistake honestly

>>127175290
nope, it cleared up my mix pretty nicely after routing the reverbs and delays a bit differently.

>>127175327
well whatever gets you there huh

>sync delay
>displays in ms but snaps to make you "just use your ears bro xDDD!!!"

Massive X is goated but NI pmo so fucking hard with random shit like this like what is your fucking problem it's CURRENT YEAR stop being like this wtf

>>127175332
thanks zou

Made this tonight. Normally don't make things like this.
https://voca.ro/13gEKtqUafVs

not much today not much imma sleep so hard tho

https://vocaroo.com/1fHh1NEAmyGU

*pees selr*

Thoughts on my damaskas-hardcore-baroquecore music??

https://vocaroo.com/1bwy8bymLnXP

Why not use dynamic eq 100% of the time?

>>127177233
because it's a different result

>>127177267
Right, the normal eq is static and doesn't shift the frequency under certain conditions whereas the dynamic eq responds to the song in real time. Are there any specific instances where one is required over the other no matter what or is it more of a matter of taste in regards to sound and workflow?

>>127177293
>doesn't shift the frequency under certain conditions
other way around- normal eq is *always* shifting the frequency.

use this as your rule of thumb:
is there *overall* too much (or too little) of a certain frequency, or do you only want that frequency ducked at specific moments? (eq vs dynamic eq respectively).
do you want the sound more "even"? (dynamic eq).

controversial for some people, but the more experienced i become the less i use dynamic eq for mixing.
*that said* it's not because it's not useful, obviously it is, but i find that every instance where i would have formerly used dynamic eq there was a cleaner and more predictable solution.

i mult and comp recordings *a lot* and that will supersede anything done with dynamic eq (e.g say a track playing a part is split into section abcd- i'll split it into those components and eq them statically as needed if they need noticably different eq's, or re-record the whole thing with automated eq(s) to be reassembled so no dynamic eq is needed).

there is also what may be referred to as "pre-production" where sounds are prepared in anticipation of where they're going to sit in a mix (e.g the most common thing i find myself doing is re-eq-ing any break i'm going to use to take out any part of the spectrum where i know other stuff will be playing in this song (doubly important because any pitch shifting will fuck with that) pre-eq-ing snares that are way too bright, resonances on cymbals that 100% will not be useful.

... there's just so many situations where dynamic eq is actually a bandaid solution or the laziest option. not always the case of course but yeah

anyway idk about that one part yet and missing fx obvs but i need to go to sleep probably i think l8r h8rs
~//~

https://vocaroo.com/1jVCWiVh8E8E

i make tracks only with splice samples

nobody bats n eye

Pultec? More like pull on my dick.

Puigtec? More like puig on my dick.

>>127179860
And nobody is enthused either

>>127177233
Uses too much cpu and sometimes the tone is good without it and consistent

>>127127796
instagram targeted ads for your metal niche genre. sad but that is the reality.

>>127167996
bthelick acolytes need to post their music. b can make a track but splice arranging and talking about it isn't BENeficial to people.

>>127170702
everything can be found better elsewhere. they were a good choice years ago

Made a new piano sound. I can't play piano though, sorry.
https://voca.ro/1nb9fPDkDUFP

>>127182582
sounds kind of like a cp-80

>>127183081
It is an SQ80 V blended with Noire piano on Kontakt with effects. Here it is in action:
https://voca.ro/1ag2TnoLrrmL

mastering is jewish.

been relearning guitar and trying out garageband lately, does this sound too messy?

https://vocaroo.com/1b9xLw7OolmG

my sister said it sounds annoying

>>127150893
What show is that?

i am incapable of making my kicks sound fat, clean, thumpy and banging

>>127183435
Just use a better kick and turn it up baka

>>127183556
then my kick overpowers everything even with sidechaining and compressing / limiting
the rest

>>127183571
sound selection and balancing issue

attempt at making a boss track. the sample pack didn't have any boss music so had to improvise

https://voca.ro/1d1el0XpLM9K

>>127183435
>909 kick + high-passed layer for character
It's really that simple, unless you're a headphonefag!

https://vocaroo.com/18QWFCD0l56r
CLONK

Reminder to cut off your kick at the sub "boom" level so your sub wont interfere with it

>>127183828
No it depends on the arrangement don’t be stupid

also if you find yourself having to highpass your kick you picked the wrong kick bro lol

and that’s only serious advice for sub heavy genres in the first place

reminder to stop listening to blanket advice from randoms online

>>127183828
no seban says in an interview that some of his mixes are too much in phase. like it is too good and loud and then his sub bursts.

>>127183936
for clarification i meant the mixes he receives

>>127183435
Just put a saturate on it and crank it, and eq the lows heavily. That beefs up the lower mids while still maintaining order

>plugindoctor can load another instance of itself
nice

>>127185208
snapheap and multipass

>>127136965
each individual section sounds good its just disjointed, like it randomly goes from part to part with no reason or build so its hard to catch a groove. Like its very adhd and you keep creating more when you should be stopping and arranging what you have and working on transitions

>>127185255
playing snake in plugindoctor

>>127185523
truly the superior plugin…

eq test kek
https://www.masteringthemix.com/products/eq-academy
>>127185487
love it

>>127185778
>love it
very happy to hear that. it was a rip off of atdi's first album and wanting it to sound like some kids practicing in their parents' kitchen (semi-autobiographical)

How's the vocal mixing? I think I'm getting better than I used to be, it kinda seems like it is glued together. Idk if the reverb is still too much, or if the vocals are too damn loud but I think I am better than I have been on any previous song. It's hard rock/grungey stuff, shouldn't be too oppressive to the ears and the static in the intro is on purpose I think it adds some nice ambience/mood
https://voca.ro/1n7YxiE4b4s2

>>127150893
Very nice

>>127185778
>eq-academy
a neato tip: instead of referencing first, EQ the track to your liking first, and then bring in the reference track

>>127150893
responding to epic meme post