>Production Resources:
https://dmpdoc.neocities.org/
https://pastebin.com/pYGCLu6q
https://pastebin.com/p2QUqMzj

>/prod/ wiki - still looking for contributors
http://mu-sic-production.wikia.com

Use Vocaroo to post WIPs.
https://vocaroo.com/

No self-promotion allowed (eg. sharing your soundcloud/youtube links).

Sister thread: >>>/g/dmp

Previous: >>127198135

how do we save /prod/?

>>127245144
Stop posting anime garbage, for starters.

>>127245144
it's too late to be saved, we have to embrace the corruption

i love parallel compression on drums

>>127245212
Anime website.

>>127245212
Nyooo

>>127245212
ironically all the western cartoons people would post are like a thousand times gayer

>>127245238
Never has been, never will be

>>127245130 (OP)
here's a shoegaze track i made, tell me if the composition is good or bad or if there are any mixing mistakes. plus a little animation i made to go with it.

https://vocaroo.com/1c4x6TLzFuOf

I'll ask again I guess
My Minilab MkII came with Ableton Live Lite
I never installed it
Is it any good?

>>127245345
Yeah, Live Lite is gud. MusicRadar has a good tutorial series on YouTube if you need help learning how to get started.

>>127245144
maybe fastman can do it

>>127245382
ok thanks, maybe i'll give it a try
I bought the Minilab just to test some software I was writing, but I haven't had time to work on that in a while. Maybe I can try making music the normal way

like 90% of my sampled drums are from one single pack and i fear one day somebody will call me on it

>>127245316
it's alright, i like the background vox maybe bring them a lil bit more to the front, but whole song is quite predictable. I'd notch it out around 2.5k or reduce the volume of the synth you're using at 03:10

>>127245237
Hey, im better than all of you. That's it. Goodbye.

>>127245691
nta but i'm the best itt actually

>>127245632
just layer them lmao

>>127245316
you're the guy that keeps posting about his bussing and panning?
i already knew based off your descriptions it was a likely to lead to issues, but hearing it now: your phase is fucked for sure- i can't tell if it's just straight up timing issues or not at some parts because it practically sounds like delay.

anyway i fixed it for you
https://vocaroo.com/13GnFcA782PP

>>127245691
>>127245699
all me by the way

>>127245685
its the first track i made fully. been doing covers for almost a year straight to learn how to make music. this track is basically taking everything i learned. also i knew the lead-like synth at the 2nd bridge was a bit too loud. i got like 4 synths in that section.

>>127245878
i don't post much here. its actually the first time i post on one of these threads. this is the 2nd time someone told me about how i got phase issues. i know its like sound waves cancelling out causing them to not make any sound, or something like that. i just don't really know how to fix that though. the youtube tutorials for it were terrible. i'd appreciate if you could show me how to fix phase issues, or some resource to learn about it. also, your fix makes it sound very loud and compressed. sounds like everything is mashed into the middle. could just be my untrained ears, but i really don't like how it sounds.

>>127246334
i only made it louder for the bit.

the advice “mix in mono” is helpful for many reasons.
applicable in this case: you’re not supposed to use the stereofield to “make room.” i.e a proper mix will have everything appropriately placed in the spectrum in mono.
likewise, a proper mix will not experience a significant balance/volume change when collapsed to mono, which yours does.

but anyway, download voxengo correlometer and use it to reference frequently.

>>127245878
>you're the guy that keeps posting about his bussing and panning?
you're referring to that cubase screenshot i posted the other day. i already cleaned that up. i just put my amp sims on the input buss instead of running three separate versions of amplitube. i needed to save cpu power. im not even considering reamping at this point in my production phase so i dont lose anything by baking the amp into the track.

>>127242681
>https://vocaroo.com/1fiwpjDIBrUS
expected a boring modular track, instead it's the coolest possible edm you could hear in 2012. impressive

>>127247362
> 2012
> it's riddim

Nah riddim didn't rear its ugly head until like 2014ish. I abhor it but I did enjoy your tune a lot, even the drops were cool. Defintiely feel those early 2010s vibes anyway

>>127245632
genuinely: nobody cares.
If it sounds good, use it. Only a turbo-autist would notice, much less give a shit

>>127248464
nooo then the other producers won’t think i’m cool anymore :(

Maybe I should start using loops

why do i have to like dream pop/shoegaze so much? its impossible to mix

>>127249046
git gud loser

>>127249055
im trying otherwise i wouldn't be in this thread

>>127249061
you say that as if there is a logical connection between those two things lol

>>127249074
touche

>>127249078
yeah i can't claim to be an expert on mixing shoegaze but it is definitely a real bitch to get a hang of.
much more so imo becuase it's unintuitive compared to other genres (a lot of style dependent "rule breaking" further obfuscated by the air of "it's supposed to sound like shit bro") and many of the "template" bands having completely inconsistent recording and mixing techniques that don't sound similar at all unless you're going for that specifically amateur sound that every "lo-fi" band has, and that isn't even shoegaze exclusive...
idk man good luck, it's tough

why the flip would ableton make make hybrid reverb eq post-input that just destroys like 80% of its viability as a solo washer what the FUCK

>>127249203
You know you can just disable it, right

sorry that was mean

you automate the eq *into* the reverb that's the whole point of that effect. also fuck you
damn that was mean too FUCK

>>127245277
who cares? stop watching cartoons, you're not 12

>>127249359
only somebody who is mentally a child and emotionally immature would even type something like this bro lol

I just got a arturia keylab essential 61 MK3, any recommandation for a keyboard stand?

>>127249377
i really don't care anime homo

>>127249389
proving the point there mate

>>127249377
He's mentally a child for thinking that children's cartoons are for children?

>>127249424
Who cares so much about anyone else private shit anyhow? It is not ok to downgrade someone based on stereotypes, whats more important is a good keyboard stand for my newly bought Arturia Keylab essential 61 MK3.

Any recommendations, any tipps, what should i look for?

>>127249437
>It is not ok to downgrade someone based on stereotypes
it absolutely is lol

>>127249448
I watch animes too, am i a child now?

>>127249454
most likely

>>127249482
wrong, i might be retarded, a wage slave, most likely autist but at least i am not jewish or a faggot like you.

Beside your schizo bait postings, what is a good keyboard stand for the Arturia KeyLab Essential 61 MK-III

>>127249494
you sound like a pussy

>>127249437
So if I told you that I enjoy watching cocomelon as an adult you wouldn't see anything wrong with it?
What if I told you that I like laying on my back and looking at those hanging toys for babies?
Is it all equally ok or is there a point where it's too much?
Surely you must have a threshold where you start thinking that an adult enjoying something that a mentally sane adult could never enjoy, isn't the best way to spend your time (unless we're talking about someone who's actually mentally challenged).

I'm not shitting on Anime btw, I like it too, but most of it is very childish and if someone has a negative opinion of me for liking it I can't really blame them.
The idea that you can't have a negative opinion of someone's hobby doesn't make any sense.

>>127249504
>>127249513
yeah ok, but what about the Arturia KeyLab Essential 61 MK-III, any recommendation for a keystand?

>>127249523
jesus christ, just get any fucking stand, it's not that heavy

>>127245632
yeah that is lame. you're just an arranger.

>>127249563
Sound design is a waste of time until you get to the stage where you're an established artist who needs his own unique sound
Until then, just use whatever the fuck sounds good

>>127249622
>Sound design is a waste of time blah blah blah

I'm at the "only can make 20 second loops" phase. I used to be able to churn out a complete track out of a single idea pretty quickly but now I get stuck so often, it's over

>samefagging your own troll posts

/prod/ will go the way of /dump/

>wake up
>open /prod
>"How do we save prod?"
>50 subsequent posts about anime

>>127247362
How do I achieve this level of production anons
I'm genuinely too low IQ for 90% of these sounds

>render midi track
>audio track isn't routed properly and has no inserts
>check midi track
>insert disappeared
what the fuck, i dealt with that plugin like a surgeon and it just fucking disappears on me? i should've saved the track preset.

https://vocaroo.com/1bqQMYucEXLo
Is this any good?

>>127249380
fungeneration universal stand by thomann, dont get a X stand they suck.

>>127250148
i dont like what it becomes at 1:38. everything gets ugly there. the melodies dont pick up and the kick just deteriorates. before that i was bopping along. it also introduces unneccessary and unresolved blueballing. the part at 3:40~ should be a bit more enthusiastic. just my thoughts.

https://vocaroo.com/14pAAPFlUJ8T
From previous thread, no responses

retard beginner here. I'm making a little tune that's trying to get across some underwatery type effects and as such it seems there's a lot of low end shit going on. Do I need to supplement this with some high end, as in, if the main sound design of an arp is quite low and muted, should I also have a high end version of that layered over the top or something to compliment it? I kind of don't know if I'm asking the right question here, but just worried that my idea will sound like a low end mess otherwise (and probably does). Is there a preocess for mixing a low-end heavy track and making everything sound clear, or is this bad design from the outset and I need to reconsider the composition? Where can you learn about shit like this? I know this thread is probably one of the worst places on earth to ask, but you never know (plus i hate the rest of the internet even more).

>>127250424
>if the main sound design of an arp is quite low and muted, should I also have a high end version of that layered over the top or something to compliment it?
Yes but keep it subtle to maintain the overall desired sound, and use countermelodies.
Percussive elements also work well for this imo.

>>127250393
I like it anon, great atmosphere in general.
Too much reverb on most of the leads, especially on the intro piano.
Also it starts dragging on a bit after 2 minutes and outstays its welcome. I would shorten the entire thing.

i kind of want to post my latest efforts but i took a vow to never post my mixes here again so im not going to.

>>127250424
mix with pinknoise

>want to make tech house
>i fail at coming up with a groovey bassline
i hate it man

>>127250742
adjust the lengths more

>>127250655
reads like a youtube channel recommendation
>yo wassup guys and welcome back to another episode of mix with pinknoise
>today we're covering endgame audio and how you can achieve this in just 5 simple steps

>>127250831
disable youtube recommendations and fix your mental health.

https://voca.ro/12wKy9VyasYk

Dungeon synth/neoclassical/dark ambient work in progress. I only have an iPad but i think the saying limitation breeds creativity is applicable, it’s got a great work flow and playing the touch screen is fun. Like having a better op1

>>127250742
just use more loops

>>127245130 (OP)
thoughts on structure before i rerecord everything? i want it to be loopy like most russian post punk or shoegaze but not too much.
https://vocaroo.com/1oIuGYtd0Woc
>>127245316
not a fan of drums desu, combined with melody it makes the track sound like something out of persona games. but i think it could fit in a game or a movie pretty well
>>127250393
atmosphere is very cool, but it's way too long. there's not enough going on. maybe you should try adding short snippets of random samples in the background, granular stuff, use sampled ambiance as chords etc. to add texture. i think it would immediately sound more interesting

what you think? what came out of my music work today

https://vocaroo.com/15i2PjXW51sd

>>127252446
Transpose it up 2 or 3 semitones, it's very muddy and busy in the mids.
Also get rid of the cheap sounding VHS/cassette effect you're using (asuming cymatics) and find a proper tape loop and just roll off the high end and smash it into a tape saturator.

For example here.
https://freesound.org/search/?q=cassette&f=&s=Automatic+by+relevance&si_tags=0&si_name=0&si_description=0&si_packname=0&si_sound_id=0&si_username=0&d0=0&d1=*&ig=0&r=0&g=1&dp=0&cm=0&mm=0

>>127254864
sounds like something that plays in the background of a beach segment in a jrpg
which is a good vibe

so APPARENTLY i was not noided and there is an unspecified "clip stage" in pro-l.
obviously there was *something* happening but honestly i thought it was happening after the limiting.
-attack is actually how long it takes to transition *haha) from clip>limit.

with that in mind, on the couple busses i've tried it on so far it actually sounds sounds a tad cleaner/louder at equivalent loudness compared to what i was doing before (saturation>limiting), even when seemingly pushing too hard.
quite unfortunate, as i've had my workflow pretty quickly on saturator mode and pro-l actually takes more than a second to dial in right. so be it ._.
i promise to not just spam the skrillex preset

What's a good vocal chain for recording droning vocals for shoegaze?

>>127249513
>What if I told you that I like laying on my back and looking at those hanging toys for babies?
kek

>>127254864
It made me smile

>>127249513
>So if I told you that I enjoy watching cocomelon as an adult you wouldn't see anything wrong with it?
>What if I told you that I like laying on my back and looking at those hanging toys for babies?
>Is it all equally ok or is there a point where it's too much?
this is a thing anon

do i find it weird as hell? yes
do i go out of my way to shit on people for it or otherwise judge them morally?
no, because i have the capacity to understand that that one weird thing isn't hurting anybody and doesn't define the rest of their character, and i don't make sweeping generalizations about things i don't understand.

seeing other people *lack that capacity* and go out of their way to berate others is something i will absolutely judge them for

>>127255518
lol homo

>>127255548
being called slurs is a kink of mine and by engaging in it and providing me sexual pleasure you're being literally gay

>>127249622
the solution is to never be "an established" artist, this gives you freedom to keep using packs and it doesn't lock you into a "sound"

>>127254957
>>127255431

thanks. maybe ill work on it some more and post here later

>>127245130 (OP)
beat inspried by postal/postal dude
https://voca.ro/1a9QKbisZnCv

also this wip
https://voca.ro/1896oM3a7Bh4

>>127255712
everyone locks themselves into a sound unwittingly

>>127249563
im just arranging my notes on this keyboard im not really a composer

I can't decide if I want my new hobby to be making terrible EDM or writing terrible erotic literature. I don't think I'll have time for both.

>>127256058
Left AI do the hard work for you, that way you'll have time for both.

>>127255518
Sure, you don't need to be mean about it and hurt their feelings for no reason. I'm not advocating for that.
But whether I say it or keep it to myself, I will judge someone doing something that is X, as someone who has whatever set of requirements for wanting to do X, and that judgment will happen pretty much automatically.
For example, if I see someone with dumb shit tattooed on his face, I'm going to think that this person is either taking a high-risk/high-reward approach to stardom (in hip-hop or adjacent scenes), or is a retard who fell for dumb trends that will (because of the way society is, whether we like it or not) significantly reduce the quality of his life pretty much for no reason. In this case the requirements for getting those tattoos is to be someone that I don't want in my life and will happily discriminate against, even if they don't hurt anybody. Not because of the tattoos, but because of the kind of person that you need to be in order to get them.


>one weird thing isn't hurting anybody
Watching anime is pretty mild so it doesn't really apply here, but I'm arguing against the underlying logic in general.
Things that people get judged for are often hurting *them*. Should we pretend that self-destructive behavior is ok? Even when its normalization is effectively hurting others by spreading the idea that they're ok? (examples of this are various forms of addiction such as drugs, porn, gambling, food, etc).
If everyone, when seeing someone happily engaging in such degenerate and self-destructive behaviors, doesn't say anything (and defends them as "harmless"), the result is their proliferation, which increases suffering.
If everyone called them out, the number of people doing it would be lower, so even if it's not nice to the "degenerates", it results in less suffering (and fewer "degenerates" to be offended by a society that isn't ok with self-destructive behaviors).
IMO, a bit of gossip and shaming is a society's immune system.

>>127256489
>reduce the quality of his life pretty much for no reason
it looks cool

>>127256544
To a pretty small percentage of the population, likely for a short window of time.
Also it's not the only thing you can do to look cool.
If you're not using it to become famous, I think the pros are negligible.

Obviously there are exceptions, like if you're a tattoo artist or have some life arrangement that minimizes the downsides or something, but that's besides the point.

>>127256646
>To a pretty small percentage of the population
yeah see the thing is for *certain* people that's actually part of the appeal.
not in a "to be different and piss off other people xD" way- it's a filter for the kind of people you do and don't want to interact with.
it's a social signal. etc etc

you pityful peasants take your fallacious debates elsewhere this is no place for your sophistic cacophony.

>>127256741
you're just mad i made you gay

>>127256686
That's not really the type of person I was talking about, but sure, the same mostly applies to them as well.
If it's really that important for you to avoid most people outside of your circle (and doing it in such a permanent and consequence-heavy way), there's most likely some serious underlying issue that's making you that way.
I don't see a scenario in which being like that is positive in any way. At best I'm going to feel compassion for such person, but I'm not going to think their choice is anything other than crazy (even when they're justified in their craziness).

Unfortunately real life isn't like in video games where you can have a list of random unrelated stats.
In the real world everything about you has one or more reasons for being that way and is an indicator of other things about you, some positive, some negative, some neutral, and some unknown/unknowable.
If you're "weird" it means that there's something unusual about you that's different from the norm. That something isn't necessarily negative, but it usually is, at least a little (if you're different in a positive way you're typically not considered "weird", but exceptional).

If you're weird in a harmless way, for example if you have dorky mannerisms (maybe caused by some kind of shyness/insecurity making you tense, or some posture issue), it's pretty negligible and harmless so I'm going to judge you in my mind as someone who has these slightly negative traits (if I identify the underlying cause I can't avoid doing do, as it's basically objective fact), but in this case it's not going to make me change how I treat you (this is my subjective decision, like others would judge face tattoo people positively and dorky people negatively).

TL;DR:
The only way you can avoid judging someone is to look at them superficially. As soon as you stop ignoring the inextricable implications and ramifications of their traits, judgement can't not happen.

TL;DR for the TL;DR:
Bullying is good.

>>127257238
anon i'm sorry but i haven't been reading any of the conversation so idk what yall were talking about anyway

>>127257294
Tldr at the end

Have you figured out you're crazy yet

>>127257510
>>127257510
crazy for feeling so lonelyyyy

>>127257238
Don't tell ME bullying is good.

>>127254935
Thanks for the advice I will try them out

>>127257623

Awwww. that's touching.

You're gonna fuck off and make somebody else's dream come true. So unselfish.

Yall need Jesus.
No kidding.

can't we just talk about music production? maybe someone offer tips on buss compression and parallel compression? the various uses of saturation? just anything to fill the void

>>127257956
SURE. THATS A GOOD IDEA.

How well do you know you're audience. Are they Expecting new music? What do they want. Do you talk to them?

>>127257956
>Can we talk about the geopolitical and economic state of the world

you can any time you want anon

>>127257970
i don't have an audience apart from some friends i hang with in discord
>>127257975
huh?

>>127257970
I'm gonna tell you get the facts. be true to yourself, don't be selfish, but there's no friends when you have a product to offer.

The VST game is RIDICULOUS.

Don't use a daw AT ALL.

If you got it free... DON'T USE IT.

Learn from it.

It WILL take a lot of time and planning.
YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR.

When you buy an instrument, or amp.. whatever it is: Understand what you are buying.

OWN YOUR OWN WORK, but don't be a prick.

Put others needs FIRST, NOT YOURSELF.


NEVER, NEVER TAKE ADVICE ON THE INTERNET. There's a lot of nuts out there.

The less you say, THE BETTER.

But engage appropriately.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHsjigrnGBo

>>127258222
kys

>>127258236
NO YOU

>>127258236
imagine a homosexual telling to kys irl and not kicking him in the kidneys.

>>127258222
>NEVER, NEVER TAKE ADVICE ON THE INTERNET. There's a lot of nuts out there
I'm replying to one

You're all a bunch of socialist.

Always know you're audience. You're the biggest nut on here. GET BUSY. GO ON.

>>127258308
ur mum :)

>>127258339
Your ass. You people are delusional

>>127258339
You're mama WILL tell you "he's telling the truth"

>>127258363
>you people
Wut you mean YOU people?

>>127258308
i am unironically a member of a socialist political party here

can I be millionaire with this hit
https://voca.ro/1nmWIBCMrHWP

>>127258453
This but ironically

>>127258236
Don't talk to me like that, pos. I'll put a whole in your ass.

>>127258528
I will plug the hole in your ass <3
;)

>>127258532
I'mma plug you're fucking mouth and mom can watch.

looks like im gonna have to stop coming here for a while again. enjoy the dead general i guess

>>127258539
Kinky <3

THE KITCHEN IS FUCKING CLOSED.

WE HAVE ENOUGH CLOWNS.

DON'T WASTE YOUR TIME.

GET REAL.

YOU WANT MY COMPRESSION SECRETS GET YOUR OWN. NOT FOR SALE.

YOU SOCIALIST POS ARE FUCKING PEOPLE EVERY NIGHT

WELL THIS IS THE LAST FUCKING NIGHT.

YOU SHOULD HAVE KEPT YOUR MOUTH SHUT.>>127257238

WHO DO YOU THINK YOU ARE.

>>127257238
>Everyone must be as insecure as I am. That's just the way it is because... it is, okay???

>>127258552
MEDS.

IT'S NOT FOR CHILDREN.

>>127258589
I got the viagra lets get down <3

stop it with this faggotry
discuss or post /prod/

>>127258655
i was going to but this and the last thread had too much schizo posting so it doesn’t seem worth the time anymore

Everything about some of you is so egregious and cursed. And you still want to sing to some stranger for free. Get real.

You're the scitzo. You hate the facts.

>>127258655
>>127258687
>>127258695
Don't be homophobic :'(
I can plug each of your anuses too <3

You're gonna be pluggin a tomb

>>127258714
What happens if you permanently plug people's buttholes? Do their rectums explode or do they start shitting out of their mouths?

Niggers

>>127258737
Sexually of course <3
>>127258769
Their rectums leak my cum and their mouths shoot my pee <3
Wanna find out? ;)-|-^-<
>>127258791
They tounged my anus <3

>>127258810
No, a tomb implies you would be found.

They wouldn't find you.

I don't really wish that.

Do you make music or are you hear to make an ass out of yourself. Both huh.

>>127258831
Im here to plug your asses [in the butt (with my dick)] <3

See, you all play all the crazy screaming shit and then go watch every yell and scream. and you just love it and laugh.

>>127258861
fuck off

>>127258861
go to jail.

>>127258874
I plug your anus and you just love it and laugh. UwU

>>127258861
Federal Prison.

You belong in federal prison.

>>127258903
>>127258913
Im sure you would see alot of asses getting plugged in jail <3

>>127245130 (OP)

is there a stock pro tools compressor that will work well on a clean guitar solo? It's one of this shitty mini orange amps but I'm committed to the take at this point.

>>127258861
There should not be another point in your life where you are allowed to be anywhere near a computer, let alone communication with another human being of any kind. You're completely zoo. You belong in federal prison.

>>127258924
You're gonna see alot of beige colored cinder blocks.

>>127258930
yes just learn the stock one you goof ball

>>127258924
You are.

I just can't stop wanting to do what is right.

It's so funny seeing criminals brought to justice.

I can't stop. It's so funny when it's so right. You're insane. the things you say are insane and should never be heard from any one. You'll never stop either. Because you're sick. You will be till the day you die. Turn yourself in to the police and confess.

>>127258924
I said, the things you say, are insane. Full blown, sociopath , and beyond schizophrenia.

There's no one on the face of the earth who should be subjected to the things you have to say.

Bring yourself to justice and tell somebody competent that you need some help.

Because you're saying these things publicly, but it's insane. It's not ok. It will never be ok. You're stone cold nuts. You had no problem proving that. Get help.

>>127258924
Identify yourself.

Not joking.

You're not ever doing this again. You need to leave these people alone and get some treatment.

You're not competent to communicate in a public forum. You're insane.

You're stone cold crazy.

>>127258861
I disagree and oppose. You're insane. But your insanity is clearly irreversible. But it's your SICK.

You have a sickness. What you said was sick and insane.

You understand that that's not right. What you said is sick. But.. it's sick but it's insane.

Turn yourself in to the police.

SEEKING ADVICE:
want to create a classical music piece in FL
where to find the best instruments?

I had such high hopes for /prod/. What the fuck is this cunty shit? Did cia take one of you off their leash or something?

>>127259123
just use midi imo

>>127259141
somebody tried to bring back vaporwave. It's ok. You can enjoy this thread again.

/prod/ being mentally ill is expected.

>>127259179
>/prod/ is just one mentally ill chud
yeah i guess

>>127259141
relax chud just had an episode because someone triggered something by posting anime. just pretend all the idiotic posts are samefagging, makes no difference.
all the good posts are written by me.

>>127259179
Then therefore why would anyone in their right mind listen to the music made by such people.

That graph only speaks of musicians in general not users from this cesspool of insanity.

>>127259198
>samefagging this hard
>"d- definitely not talking about myself!"

okay i'll just close the thread again

a homosexual predatory non musician said he was here for the sole purpose of "plugging everyone's holes"

He thought that was "funny"

so anyone who stood up to him was called "insane"

But he was the one who was insane.

It was so egregious everyone was disinterested.

>>127259219
It's disgusting, vile, and counterproductive.

>>127259123
rutracker

where’s the fucking janny

i don't really know this genre at all, so this is a bit shit but heres a indie'y WIP

https://vocaroo.com/1jXNrgcnA6db

>>127259412
The guitar is nice.

Then vocals hit.
and how i can i say this so your not scared for the rest of your life.. i can't

Don't... You know what you did. Don't do that.

>>127259476
say whats on your mind fella, I don't care

>>127259412
this would actually be really good if it was produced well

>>127259508
thats fair, the bass and drums are pretty shit right now and ive flooded the mix a bit. ive only spent a couple hours on it so it'll get cleaned up tomorrow

heres another one i made recently as a bonus
https://vocaroo.com/16fX0H8UK70m

>>127259589
you can't just copy quannnic anon

>>127259595
>quannnic
no idea who that is but i'll check him/her out

>>127259589
>https://vocaroo.com/16fX0H8UK70m
Do you like your drums.

>>127259589
sounds very derivative of incubus ngl

>>127259717
i'd say when it comes to my drums those are like a 5.5/10 compared to other tracks i've made
the drums are where i struggle the most because i don't listen to this genre or anything close to it
>>127259735
dunno who that is either but i'll check em out

>>127259412
Well i care. you made the track. So don't say.. listen.. don't say you don't know what genre it is and it clearly has a genre.

The sound of the lyrics is clearly a specific genre. The tonality... You must distinguish sharply from who you might want listening... who might listen... to who your target primary listener is. You clearly have made music before and you had something in mind, so listen... Don't do that.. don't be modest. Don't be modest... say what your genre is. If it's a new genre, listen... just make it up.. but be specifc. because that vocal tonality has a reference point. and it's clearly urban. You know what to do. But you need to say it for yourself. You need to say what you're going for. Because you have the skill to know to know who you want listening... but you need to name the genre. make it clear. Keep going and focus on clarity. You really do already know but you need to focus on clarity. Why? it helps the listener know what they are hearing. It's helps them put their faith in you. You need that. But the vocals sound too stylized. I feel you know what you were doing and you did it deliberate. Be clear, state your genre and your listeners find you. Because.. don't confuse them. I hope that helps, but it makes sense. but when you do that, it feel like that same old.. "you already know" it doesn't fit there.

if i die, s0ichan is the shitposter

https://vocaroo.com/14Nod7Wt9MHP

>>127259771
it took a lot of time for you to make this track. It's so good. You worked so hard. Have you watched tutorials on YouTube about drums? if so what did you learn.

>>127259820
im a goat farmer at this point, but i dunno how to goat farm this genre

>>127259832
I'll tell you strait. you like your drums, then it's nobody's business but yours how they sound. If you just want attention, i'm not giving that out.

>>127259856
dont really know what you want from me. you've clearly got a point to say but youre going about it in a very low-test way

>>127259832
But there's distorted. Why. You're doing yourself an injustice.

>>127259142
>>127259286

>>127259871
What do you want from me. Who are you making this music for. You drums are distorted. Is that deliberate?

>>127259884
kontakt. the answers kontakt.

>>127258576
>insecure
Please explain

>>127259884
If you can play, no one cares about your mix. seriously might as well use midi. Because piano teq 8 cost about $800

>>127259903
Nobodys insecure. You want to hear my music you can pay first.

>>127259884
Holy hana...

>>127259476
>scared for the rest of your life.. i can't
the fucking ego on this girl lol
quit the passive powertrip and give your opinion, cunt

>>127259967
I DID. YOU SOUND LIKE A NIGGA.

>>127259412
>https://vocaroo.com/1jXNrgcnA6db
pretty cool
i think production is not the issue, you need it mixed better - find somepne on Fiver or wherever people go now and you'll hear it the way it should sound.
'but you're onto something nice imo

>>127259967
YOU SOUND EXTRAORDINARILY GAY.

THERE'S A PLACE FOR THAT.

BUT WHAT YOU DID IS EXCRUCIATING.

LET ME WRITE THE GENRE FOR YOU.

Let me write me name spontaneously here.

NEO ILLITERATE PRIMITIVE SOUL PUNK KOREAN GAZE.

HOW'S THAT NICE RIGHT

So don't talk about people fucking with you.

You fuck with other people.

That's how you people are.

>>127259771
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKYGZxPF0yA

>>127259894
that looks amazing - tho expensive
have you used it?

just to be clear, I stopped replying a while ago - people be impersonating me (me, the shit punk track poster)

>>127259908
I can't play well, i'm a visual artist.
But long ago I did a similar project and it turned out well, so I know what I have to to do, and enjoy it.

There is no hope for you people in this life time. God damn you

>>127260023
Ok well tell somebody who cares, like yourself.

>>127260017
nobody in their right mind would impersonate you. You dressed up like a dog and were drinking out of a dog bowl.

You smart people, but you're conniving. You're messages are childish. and that's disgusting. Don't make any more any more threads. You want attention and you're behavior is despicable, Disingenuous and insincere, so why would anyone listen to you. It's a wonder you're allowed on the internet. I will be reporting every last one of you. This is clearly your first time here.

Excruciatingly snide and petulant. How in the hell can you live your life like that. Disgusting.

>>127260112
>>127260121
sounds like liquid courage. coming into the thread after a night out are ya chap?

>>127259884
You're insane. YOU ARE INSANE. IN NO LIFE TIME WILL THAT BE A COMPETENT MESSAGE

WHY IN THE HELL WOULD ANY BODY MAKE MUSIC FOR YOU

LET ALONE LISTEN TO YOUR INSANE UNSKILLED GARBAGE

WAKE UP.

>>127260129
Sounds like the facts ain't it.

>>127260045
sorry to have disturbed you, i thought this thread was about making music - like the old ones were.
you can go back to what you were doing now; i'll try again during worthwhile people hours.

>>127260172
Respond the right way. Don't throw away your talents. From people like the ones who responded... there's never going to be a worthwhile hour for them. Only a professional educator can help them. They think they don't NEED to learn. They know everything. They keep going like that, it's curtains.

I'm trying to HELP not hurt.

Thank fuck my mixes have progressed without the help of anyone here so I dont have to keep coming back

>>127260227
if you want to help just stop posting you jackass.
nobody wants you here

>>127260273
I neither want you idiots nor do i want to be here. What you do here is BEYOND RIDICULOUS. YOU'RE INSANE LOOK AT THIS SHIT. You have got to be ashamed of yourselves. Kiss my ass

>>127260272
>le spite post
you've definitely moved on anon

>>127260273
And FUCK YOU. YOUR ATTITUDE AND DISPOSITION RELAY SUCK.

WE DON'T NEED ANY MORE OF YOU PEOPLE.

GET LOST.

YOU'RE RUDE, VILE, BUT YOU HAVE NO ABILITY TO LEARN.

EVERYTHING'S A JOKE

YOU'RE A JACK ASS

>>127260361
thank you, yes i have

>>127260273
I want to help you stfu. Fuck i'll pay

>>127259412
the fuck are those vocals

>>127259412

>>127254623
fixed this a bit
https://vocaroo.com/1fAuJjlJuPFT

I use Fruity Blood Overdrive on almost everything
Instead of gainstaging I just adjust how much Blood Overdrive is on each track

>>127261402
hell, I still use sausage fattener, but I use like 2-4% at the end of the chain.

>>127260367
do you even have a keyboard?

>>127260353
You don't need to use a name fella, we can tell which posts are yours lmao

>>127258495
easy hit

now I am just jamming with myself
https://voca.ro/1fhfAxRBjdiE

I feel like actually writing a full song takes so much effort

>>127259814
goodie

https://vocaroo.com/1ejJSmMENVkk
Working on this melodic death/gothenburg metal song I wrote the other day. I used to write a lot of music in this style but haven't written one for years now, I think it turned out pretty ok. I've only laid down some quick vocals on the chorus and copy pasted it to the other ones for now until I finish writing all of it. I'm actually feeling very happy about the mix, what do you think?

Not sure if production issue or singing technique issue: When I sing music that has gritty, distorted vocals in the vain of bands like Chevelle, Three Days Grace, I can't figure out how to get the grit to sound less like a fucking fry scream and more appropriate for the genre. Those bands and similar ones seem to have juuuust enough distortion in the vocal to add that angsty, angry sound but it doesn't into like a fuckin Bullet For My Valentine/Trivium/Killswitch Engage full-on _scream_. When I try to sing this stuff it's like all or nothing, either I sound like I'm trying to make intense metal vocals or I sound sparkly clean and I don't understand how to find an in-between spot. I do notice live some of these bands sound like they've got a lot more of a scream sound but I'm looking for the album sounds where you primarily hear the clean vocal but then the screamed/distorted bit is still present enough to kind of wrap around that clean and give it more body and aggression. Help?

>>127262790
In the first verse section, I am assuming it's the first verse anyway, it sounds like the guitar is off time with the drums around 15-18 seconds or so. It's good, I'm just noticing that feels oddly off-time.
Also your section before the 'chorus' (as defined by your singing) sounds more chorus-y, or like it should at least be the first half of the whole overall chorus. Begins at 1min mark roughly. That riff personally feels like it should repeat again, and then your current chorus section becomes a post-chor/pre-verse interlude or again just a 2 part chorus.

>>127262821
go to a vocal coach or just accept that you cant sing the way you want to.
That shit is 90% genetics and 10% work

>>127262854
Thanks for checking it out. Ah, do you mean the riff with the hertas,16th-16th-8th-8th notes? It might sound a bit weird since the guitars start out following the drums/bass in the herta pattern one bar, then next bar break off to only 8ths while the drums/bass continue, then the guitars come back in following the pattern, and since the herta pattern results in a 3/4 and the actual time signature is 4/4 the pattern is "placed" differently during the third bar compared to the first. Or maybe you just meant the playing is sloppy lmao.

Interesting thoughts on the pre-chorus, I really like that one too. I cut it in half before the second chorus because I wanted to try to not make the song too long (I usually have a hard time writing shorter songs so trying to restrain myself), but maybe I'll allow it to be in full that time too.

>>127263014
I don't understand odd time signatures well enough to know if it's intentional or not desu, I only play in 4/4, 7/8. To non-drummer ears it just makes an odd clash, like when you see a band live and the drummer or guitarist accidentally plays the section too quick or too slow then everyone gets back in the groove properly