Thread 127386212

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>>127386212 (OP)
>desk is too small for his needs
>complains about price of new desks and doesn't want to spend money to solve his problem
>meanwhile he owns an OP-1

I wanna do a new music project and I'm torn between two directions:

A
>mythical black metal
>rough guitar, drum computer
>juno synth, folk instruments
>some uplift melodies where you can imagine dwarfs dancing around a fire, then tragedy and misery
>telling stories in a tolkien parallel universe
inspired by:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqiOZdH2w3A

B
>German lowfi ethno hip hop
>some sampling, old school
>uplifting, not gangster
>lyrics about life, nature, love
>featuring some local rappers I know
>insta channel with snippets of songs, giga comfy studio shots, nature
inspired by:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7TdOR2m1atM

I'm kinda leaning towards A because I feel that this kind of music is really rare nowadays. I find it hard to find something. And it's much easier to arrange some cool songs. What do you think?

My neighbor who is a 90 year grandma just gave me her Roland SH-101 for free because she is about to die. Crazy this really happened I swear.

https://voca.ro/12ahjmqluhDD
working on the second batch of acid music

>>127387056
>Acid
>Base
Now the term 'base music' makes sense!
I do dig it; reminds me of jams my friend Chris makes.

>>127387221
lol never thought about that. my brothers name is Chris lol

>>127386212 (OP)
reface cs chads assemble! lately ive been playing the yc but the cs is equally my fave

Anyone else have a weird special interest for music software lol. I like collecting DAW's, basically only missing Pro Tools but hoping to pick up a cheap copy of 9 soon so I have the option of upgrading. Just recently picked up Digital Performer 5 license from a boomer which I have the option of upgrading if I want. I never pay full price

Advice for when the music I write and the voice i have don't match?
I've been writing some really nice stuff that has a feel between Paramore and Flyleaf and I love the instrumentals but my voice is made for singing Slipknot, Hatebreed kinda stuff. At most I can do Staind or new Thrice sort of singing (gravelly Dustin voice, not early 2000s) but this just does not fit the style and no matter how hard I try to think "None of it existed before it existed" and try to put my mind out of the 'only certain voices fit this style' mentality I just can't accept it. Back on the subject of Thrice, I think the re-release of their early music with the new vocals is fucking terrible because it does not fuckin fit that shit anymore and that's where I'm kinda stuck. There's not a good enough vocal changing plugin yet to accurately switch my voice in real-time to a female one or even a higher octave without sounding like phasing digital bullshit is there? I tried Izotope Vocal Synth and Antares Harmony something or other a year ago and they did not work well.

>>127388601
WHEN DEADBOLTS AWAKE YOU FROM DEJA VU DREAMS
do do dododododo
do do dododododo
AT FOUR IN THE MORNING I KNOW WHERE YOU'LL BE
do do dododododo
do do dododododo
> just does not fit the style and no matter how hard I try to think "None of it existed before it existed" and try to put my mind out of the 'only certain voices fit this style' mentality I just can't accept it.
I think you should keep listening to your own sound to get used to your voice and that genre and one day it'll click. You don't want to keep MAKING COPIES OF COPIES OF COPIES (WHEN WILL IT END?)
PLEASE TAKE THESE HANDS
THROW ME IN THE RIVER
BUT DON'T LET ME DROWN
UNTIL THE WORK DAY ENDS
dadada~da da da da
dadada~da da da da

https://vocaroo.com/1fSPdHpqkujF

>house
>lo-fi

I think it takes me so long to commit to a project because I am after the perfect group of songs and consistency and minor set backs feel more significant than what they are that it discourages me way too much. I have to start "settling" or im never gonna release anything

>>127388351
Nah once I found the one I liked, I never looked back. I did try studio one but im far too used to the one I'm currently using. It has an immense toolset and workflow that I just don't see the point in trying others.

>>127389653
idk on one hand “settling” makes sense in many contexts:
when you’re aware that your standards are unreasonable, when accounting for how much time a return is really worth, when you’re aware of your own limitations (i.e it’s the best you can do and will be able to do for the foreseeable future).
if you’re really on your shit and you have a clear vision then it can make sense not to settle though.

that said i think 99% of people are probably kidding themselves.
THAT said, none of that should be used as an excuse to be lazy or put our mediocre tunes or put something out “just to have released music” etc

>>127389653
yeah i do that too

i just write tons of music and patterns emerge that make it obvious that groups of songs belong together

https://vocaroo.com/1jLBvv0T2dkz
some sound design bullshit in the drone/shoegaze genre. very heavy and loud. going for a more melodic sunn o))) sound. how is it?

Please watch this before producing music.

https://vimeo.com/channels/1864552/549715999

how do I achieve a mix like this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXcHeNJ-NoU
@19:45
crunchy, distorted drums and bass and everything in general
I'm very bad at mixing so it would be great if you explained it to me like I'm retarded

why is everyone so obsessed with pointing out that low/high pass filters can cause phase issues? surely everyone is aware of this by now and yet low/high pass filters are a necessary tool in music production. why is there always autists in the comment section of youtube always arguing the validity of pass filters vs shelves?

>>127386212 (OP)
>uses my pic as OP
lol
>>127386578
>meanwhile he owns an OP-1
I've been trying to sell it for like 2 years ;_;
>>127388299
something I didn't know about Omnisphere before I got it was that it actually has full Hardware integration with the Reface CS, meaning that the entire synth is fully modeled, mapped and available with it's og Waveforms inside Omnisphere, including its quirks (the cross-fade between filter and amp envelope). So now if I want to record my Reface CS I don't have to deal with audio cables and can just use the version inside of Omnisphere

>>127391924
finding things that you feel the need to learn and fully understand before you can seriously consider making music is a great way to procrastinate while telling yourself you're being productive somehow.

one of the appeals of making abrasive music is that it requires less technical aptitude than most other disciplines.
it is much easier to flatten sounds with lots of distortion or limiting and get some sort of minimum viable product, as opposed to learning how to actually produce and mix well.
this is why all 'industrialised' forms of music, particularly electronic music, should automatically be ranked lower than other types. the skill ceiling is just lower. it's music for impatient teenagers.

>>127392108
>particularly electronic music
i dont think its fair to generalise a whole genre when there are many sub genres of electronic music that require incredible talent and skill to produce

>>127392145
i'm talking about the abrasive ends of electronic music. whether it's the excesses of americanised dubstep, or more 'respectable' music like mills and birmingham sound derived industrial techno, or even fuzzy fennesz inspired ambient - the principle applies. the music is easier to make.
what's worse however is that people will listen to this abrasion and impart upon the music some sort of credibility - that the distortion speaks to something greater, that it elevates the music.
we must rid music of these childish ideas.

>>127392183
Distortion is in fact good

I like pushing the limiter to where it sounds like im tearing a hole in the cosmological fabric of space and time. Maybe with how we harness and manipulate frequencies, perhaps we are altering the universe in some way; taking that energy and transforming it. What if those oscillations reverberate throughout the galaxy and have contributed to vast and significant events like super novae or the formation of a star?

>>127392108
I used to think it would probably be super difficult until I saw that everyone who makes that kind of music just OTTs all the abrasive synth patches, including people who have made it like, ag cook, sophie, arca

damn I like this one
interpol like?
https://voca.ro/1blt1552kkUd

>>127392108
>>127392183
>dunny kroogy posting
cute

https://vocaroo.com/1gxjNJ9dFZCF

Work in progress - no effects or mixing or anything yet and more movements planned. The bass is a little out of time and needs to be re-recorded. Would love criticism!

>>127392652
same this is good

>>127392727
>no effects or mixing or anything yet
Then im not listening

>>127392652
Is this guitar pro?

>>127392737
Suit yourself. Instructions say to post WIPs so there ya go

>>127392703
Seriously lmao. People discussing music w a Reddit bot

>>127387056
Sounds cool, man. Reminds me of Cruelty Squad in a good way.

>>127389535
This absolutely made my morning man. Love it. Melody is stuck in my head. Thank you for posting

https://voca.ro/1aNSKGi2vB7x
more acid

>>127392331
of course, distortion is fantastic. most people in these threads do not infact distort their music enough. saturation is often the thing that separates an amateur mix (see: >>127392703 >>127392792 ) from a pro mix (mine).
what we're talking about is its (ab)use as an effect.

>>127393114
You faggots have to go back

drum sound selection is by far the hardest part of prodding... (unless you're going for acoustic drum sounds ofc)
fricking end me already.

>>127393114
>what we're talking about is its (ab)use as an effect.
any time anybody starts saying shit like this you know they're just trying to logically explain shit taste.

>abuse of quantization
>abuse of autotune
>abuse of reverb
>abuse of effects!
>"it's easy actually!"
>"this makes it bad actually!"

>>127393194
no it's easy actually git gud

>>127393206
i am explaining the semiotics of audible distortion and the traps it can create, both technical and also of taste.

watch this, it will explain some more:
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2qe112

>>127392743
just mashing on my computer keyboard with fl studio

>>127393250
you literally are not doing that at all

>daily motion
trolling

>>127393215
if you have to get good then it's not easy

how do you synthesize soft kicks?
when you use pitch envelopes to make a kick, they're always quite deep and massive, and using those for 4 on the floor or more eventually leads to ear fatigue imo, but if you just change the freq range of pitch envelope up, then the sound becomes way too tonal and doesn't sound like a kick anymore.
yet there are tons of synthesized soft kicks all over sophie's heaven suspended for example.

>>127393309
basically just a function of:
1. the distance in freq/notes between start and end pitch
2. the time it takes to travel from start pitch to end pitch (also the shape of the envelope)

>>127393309
heaven suspended fucked so hard fr

okay you know every basic bitch explanation about kicks/snares (click/transient, body, tail)?
do things that interfere with the click. that's it.
filters are the obvious thing.
all passes imo are like, it, but they're not super common obvs. notch, just low pass where the click is, bring in a separate oscillator and phase cancel... shit liike that. phaser...

there's also the obvious option of just resampling and fading the attack or stretching or whatever yk

>>127391046
Right-wing slop

>>127393309
>>127393431
noticed that sophie also pitched all kicks. they always follow the root notes of the chords.

>>127393278
ah i see the redditors still haven't grappled with ideas /mu/ explored 15 years ago. please, go back.

>>127392927
thanks for listening anon, appreciate you. my first time really kinda tackling lo-fi house, def need some work on the mastering to get the right sound

if any anons in here know the kind of VSTs that would be useful for that sort of thing, especially on the master bus, let me know

https://youtu.be/uTOsBk-V9uA
how do you drench things in reverb to this extent while avoiding creating total sonic mud?

>>127393742
>minimal arrangement
>actually touching the reverb settings

>>127393659
It’s a wonderful track. Can you post more in the shill thread? I know you said it’s your first in that style but I’d buy an album like that and I bet you’ve got some other good stuff

>>127393742
i wonder what andy's up to these days. never really reached these heights again. wonder if he's back in the machine shop.

>>127393742
>>127393884
i never got into him where do i start?
i prefer busier stuff and that one was pretty lowkey for me t b h

>>127393909
these if want. passed me by was what he made his mark with. luxury problems was probably the biggest one for him. he's not really a busy type of guy. just really grinding half-time stuff. luxury problems brightened things up with the vocals.
he was pretty unique for the time, but he got big on the tail end of the uk dubstep scene as it transitioned back into 130 techno territory

>>127393843
thanks anon, honestly a lot of my stuff is all over the place, been producing for a short time just kind of experimenting. but you can find me in the shill thread, recently posted. track name is "thirteen"

>>127393953
cool, ty

>>127394046
yw. the uk (and kinda drifting to berlin) scene during that period was basically a cambrian explosion of talent. i don't think anything like that will ever happen again in the internet age unfortunately. well worth putting some time in and look through the releases from back then.

not 100% feeling the guitar tone but its sounding alright
https://voca.ro/1dKTGUr3VhDp

supersaw go brr :)

https://vocaroo.com/14tIgAXh1FJR

making acid bass music has bee fun and imma continue. I wish I had some irl producer friends. but bless my friends for listening to this shit anyway
https://voca.ro/1mcubkj6vTio

how do you make a melody

Writing some grunge music and want it to sound like it was recorded in the 90s on available tech rather than on modern tech specifically to get more into the feel of the genre it's meant to be in. Alice in Chains/Jerry Cantrell is the only band from that era still putting out consistent releases and if you compare the sound of the recordings on Jerry's newest album and the 2018 AIC album to Dirt, Facelift and Jar of Flies the new recordings just sound too produced, too clean, too much clarity, a big chunk of the feeling in the music is missing. I don't have access to what they would've recorded on in 1990-1996 but I'm hoping someone has a plugin to suggest that can kinda degrade the audio just enough to make it sound older? Maybe I need to put a large room reverb on the whole mix and make it clip a bit? Trying to get some soul into my music, really not wanting these particular tracks to sound so perfectly done. I didn't play to a click and I'm using a pretty dated mic so it's all good in regards to playing and singing what I wrote to be played and sung but I can't stop getting a bright, happy sound out of the mix. Can't seem to find interviews about the production of the albums in this era either to figure out if they were doing something in the EQ that adjusted the sound down but it feels like they pulled a lot of mids out to remove some of that 'happy' and 'bright' feel but idk I'm just guessing here.

>>127390813
Based.

>>127398285
Appreciate it

>>127398203
Try tape simulators, saturate the overall mix, add distortion. These will add character to the recording and not make it sound so sterile and clean. Also I dont know what I'm talking about so good luck

https://voca.ro/1owGfnjLaCqU

how do i made better acid?

>>127399360
maybe stop trolling and making the same daily joke post idk

>>127399499
What is a joke about this to you? I'm literally just building acid tracks and you are hatin for no reason.If you don't like the music say why.

>>127386212 (OP)
solo bm project: im from bergen, norway, i used old folk music , say what you think https://youtu.be/t3xhfv6WjBs?si=uD-p3MtDrIczxmv7

>>127399840
væri kuul

>>127400085
Thœnks mœn

https://voca.ro/1jDn7zyjrczi
What kind of setting would work this kind of style? Was going for a farmland or woodsy day type of feeling

>>127386212 (OP)
Why do I not know how to create new sounds on a synth? Even when I watch YouTube videos learning how to create a sound , which usually takes like 20 steps by the way, I have no idea what to do when left to my own devices and I want to figure out how to make the right sound for my current project. Everything I come up with just sounds like a modified saw waves.

I've been trying to learn Vital by the way because apparently it's good and free but I'm starting to feel like I'm too stupid to be able to make my own sounds to match my own projects without searching through my list of presets.

>>127401182
not enough practice clearly

>listening to some tracks i made 4+ years ago
>they sound really good
what the fuck

>>127386772
I’m definitely biased but I say A, sounds much more interesting

https://vocaroo.com/1clziG8IgV9P

anyone else slap sampled vocals on the track and call it done
anyone else have 0 clue how to mix vocals
anyone else actually hate music

>>127401182
just do syntorial 2

i wish DAWs had a 2nd view or a 3rd one in Ableton's case that's just an empty place to design and bounce sounds in. I find it really annoying that you have to do that stuff on the same timeline where the actual music is going to be. right now what's holding me back is that it's like the DAW wants me to immediately commit everything to song, when the thing one really should be doing is to record sounds, bounce them to audio and then hand place them around or sequence them to create the arrangement.

>>127402028
ableton session view is my clipboard and current project is my drag spot to hold pre bounced ideas and clips.

but yeah i agree. my workflow largely revolves around this thinking

>>127401182
the fuck is your problem? would you watch a youtube video on breakdancing and expect to just bust out whatever moves you want afterwards? No, you gotta practice over and over and over and study references then practice over and over and over, repeat forever. It's going to take you months or years to get truly comfortable with learning any new technichal skill and to set unrealistic expectations otherwise is just your lack of experience and patience. Part of the problem might also be how YT videos will often try to sell you the idea that you can shortcut yourself to being experienced and it's bullshit, they are a good point of reference or starting point at best. Keep grinding, stop whining.

>>127402028
Wut?
Ableton is the one daw famous for having that.
This is like saying "man I wish Reaper was customizable" lol

Would anyone want tog give it a shot to better master/mmix my songs if I upload the stems? Last time I had really good results from you guys that I still use now as I'm clueless.
I'm the guy who sounds a bit like Beirut.

>>127402087
session view doesn't really solve that problem for me. The way I imagine it would just be a big empty space, unrelated to any track or bus in which I can create a node that is an instrument, then another node that's an effect or whatever, and then I connect them, make the sound I want and immediately commit the result to a sample clip on the side bar that I can just drag and drop painlessly whenever. And then of course I can wipe the nodes, or even create different nodes on the same empty space, without any consideration for "tracks" or a "timeline".

>>127402190
Mmh I see...
Have you looked into node-based modulars like Bespoke, Noisecraft, Alpha Forever, etc?
Maybe you can somehow integrate them in your Ableton workflow.
Or if you're willing to change DAWs, Bitwig has its own stock node-based modular platform.

>>127402268
changing daws is out of the question for me because m4l exists but I was thinking about using a second daw for the sole purpose of doing that, maybe even just audacity (idk if that supports vst) since that software is as straightforward as it gets, but ideally I'd ofc like it to just be an integrated thing a daw has. but really, I just need to get over myself and deal with the annoyances/get used to working around them instead of being a pussy and getting overwhelmed.
but a man can dream... there's an experimental daw called blockhead that kinda leans into that direction. seems to be made more for sound creation than song creation.

>>127402359
The only way to be sure is to try them for a bit and see how the different workflows end up working out.

on the topic of daws, I wish other daws had the varispeed feature from logic. that shit is amazing.
>slow project down to 80% or so
>record something new at the pitch and speed of the 80% slowed project
>speed it back up and get all the interesting timbre changes you get from speeding up a tape recorder on the newly recorded track while everything else is just back at normal speed
>or speed the project up to 50% record something, slow the project back down and get the timbral changes that come from slowing down stuff
no other daw has anything like that

>>127402442
>timbre changes
Are those changes from the mere pitch-shifting, or are they actually emulating the specific sound of speeding up or slowing down tape?

>>127402468
the latter. if it was just pitch shifting, then you could easily do it in any daw.

>>127402529
Yeah that's what I was thinking.
Pretty cool, thanks for sharing.

>https://vocaroo.com/11yEPEfAmpla

ignore the mix, i only started this a couple hours ago
is there a vibe hidden in here somewhere?

>>127392108
You are retarded.

>>127402442
>varispeed
i HATE people that use it actually because there tempo is always fucked.

i saw someone claim with zero proof that my IDM guardian angel Q***** uses logic and i had zero reason to believe it until i started doing light remakes of his stuff and saw that very obvious mark-
contrary to what you hear it's all often extremely on (a) grid but you'll randomly see these inserted like 4 or even 1 bars where a similarish but more fucked up sound is but the timing just destroyed.
yes i want it.
actually i vaguely recall a m4l device(s) specifically for that.

>>127403240
all the vocals on Sophie's Product were done with varispeed. seems to work just fine, the problem you're describing would be especially noticeable there.

>>127403268
i can't pretend to know how it would work, all i know is i've checked multiple hyperpop tracks that would obviously use it and the tempo shifts throughout what would otherwise seem like rigid music

>>127392108
>one of the appeals of making abrasive music is that it requires less technical aptitude
The appeal is that it sounds good not that it was hard to make, retard. People like you will never make anything worth listening so you try to make up for it with muh technical proficiency and "debating" instead of actually posting your music. Really sad.

Nobody gives a shit if you use bass loops

If it works and sounds good its good

>>127403624
people care when you sound like every other splice slop “producer”

nobody cares about you personally though

>>127403645
Nobody in the real world knows about splice

>plug in old hdd
>find this project
never finished it
wdyt

https://voca.ro/1kpUwvwOeIK4

>>127403647
great but real world people know what “generic” sounds like

>>127403662
No they don't if it sounds good it sounds good, this place here is a cesspool of 1,2 retards telling everyone you gotta make your own music from the ground up lmao.

>>127403675
> if it sounds good it sounds good
yes that negates what i said

nobody cares that you want to make your slop anon you don’t have to cry about it every time

>>127403681
And you clearly have no idea what the real world out there actually listens to lmao

>>127403688
uh huh sure, justify your shitty music however you want.

people that use loops and make actual art that people enjoy exist.
you’re not one of them though and you make it worse by whining about it

>>127403726
It's clear you never produce music yourself

>>127403732
>non-sequitir
yes i’m right and you’re wrong, it’s been fun playing

>>127403624
Grimes' most famous song Oblivion with over 1 bil views on YouTube uses a Juno G preset for the bass line, and even the sequence itself is part of said preset.

>>127403660
>wdyt
pretty boring and kind of weird, makes me feel slightly uncomfortable. not terrible, though.

so can i use presets now or not i am confused

>>127403874
why would you not lol

>>127403874
most of your favourite music utilizes presets.
pic related is nothing presets but it doesn't matter because the way they're arranged and edited turns them into something new even though the core sound isn't altered.
arrangement and audio editing is much more important than what sounds you use.

nobody cares if you use (pre-made thing)

if you *rely* on said thing, consistently, and you can't even get close yourself though: there's an exponentially greater chance that you're shit.

every example that has been or will be listed saying "but so and so used..." will omit the fact that they've already otherwise shown their own competence and don't *need* that thing.
is that the case for the anons you're talking to? be for real

all acoustic instruments are technically presets

>>127403874
if people are telling you presets should be avoided completely, they are probably the type of person that this anon described here >>127403514, and you shouldn't care what they think. It's usually advised that you shouldn't solely use them, cause it's good to experiment yourself, to learn and understand how things were created, which will help your own creative decisions and growth, and while that is true, who actually fucking cares. Go ham and make an album using presets. Call yourself The Preset Prince and make a career off it.

>>127404038
>Call yourself The Preset Prince and make a career off it.
actually don't do this I quite like this idea and I'm trying to copyright it as we speak

>>127404038
Good post anon. These threads are helpful if you’re willing to filter out the autism, crabs in a bucket, and ego tripping

>>127386772
I think you're limiting yourself creatively and putting yourself in a box, or rather, giving yourself a choice of 5 boxes. Why not make something that encompasses all these themes, transcending microgenre and creating something truly memorable? It doesn't have to be some kind of concept album, necessarily, but if you could eclectically tie all those elements into something coherent, it would be a unique and worthwhile effort I think. I'd give it a try.

>>127388351
I collected and pirated literal terabytes of music software. Became obsessed with all the different kinds of music environments. At one point at I had all last generation's DAWs installed, an Amiga emulator for OctaMED, etc. but the problem is you need to actually make music. That kind of collection should grow rather slowly in my opinion unless it is there for purely archival purposes.
How deeply do you already know what you have? DAWs are almost like programming languages today, in that they all do essentially the same thing (sequence and edit audio/midi) but do it in different ways with different focuses for workflow and results. Ableton Live for example can and does carry people through their entire musical lives, and most of the time functions you think you can only get from something else can be integrated or approximated into the environment you already understand.
I think you understand by now what I'm trying to say/advocating

>>127388351
>>127405048
cont.
That being said I have four or five separate DAWs/plugin hosts installed by deleted almost all my VSTs yesterday aside from basic signal analysis stuff. Why do I need all of this shit and to spend all of this time learning to use all of this shit if I don't need it for a real purpose, if the end goal is to actually make and finish compositions?

>>127388351
https://llllllll.co/t/non-daw-computer-music-environments/58289
check this out though.

reverb shimmer is cool and all, but it's also a one trick pony that always sounds the same regardless of sound source, is there anything of similar nature that has a different character?

>>127405160
literally wrong you’re just not creative

recorded this today after a long break
https://vocaroo.com/1f4o7lTSbkB2

>>127396160
I like the guitar, but I ain't keen on those drums, too hissy.
>>127400484
makes me think of a desert level

I don't find note probability to be a very useful feature for production work. Adding this to Ableton live seemed like more wishful thinking on the part of the Devs - that live performance is still a core feature people go to Ableton live for. What would have been more useful is a simple modulo function, but we can have actually good features. Is there a modulo note gate Max for live device? I would pay for it.
I make a live device on every 5 years. Maybe this is my next one.

drums feelin bland on this but it's coming together
https://voca.ro/143GuEcTY97c

>>127405275
lovin that bass. the keys are a little claustrophobic.

probability is not meant for producers.
it's meant for the 80% of customers who never create anything.

I think what would make probability actually useful would be letting users specify the random seed, exposing the deterministic nature of 'random' to the user, but the cognitive load of that for the average Ableton user would be too much I fear.

If you make music I would encourage you to also take up a more technically demanding and analytical hobby - one of the stem disciplines? Why? Because it will make you a better engineer. Because that technical aspects of production lie squarely in the realm of the midwit. None of this is complicated at all. Doing something actually demanding will make all this much easier for you.

>>127405998
Shut up fag

>>127405716
>143GuEcTY97c
drums needs more oomph, snare especially imo, maybe try some parrallel compression on it, or layering another snare sound. Also, I'm not sure the drums entirely fit with the guitar in terms of rhythmic energy, I feel like a 16th pattern on hihats (or something else providing 16ths to the beat) may help, as right now the guitar feels too fast as it isn't following the groove of the drums. It's also a bit too loud compared to the drum mix.

I ain't an expert on drums tho. Really hard to get drums to feel right, imo.


>lovin that bass. the keys are a little claustrophobic.
thanks.
I improvised most of it. I think I held some of the chords for too long, and my timing was sloppy. I might try something on the guitar instead, not sure keys are right for the idea I have in mind.

>>127405998
This. The /dmp/ stack (music production + programming) is unbeatable.
You listen to music while coding the software you'll use to make bangers.
When you get tired of one you switch to the other. It's perfect.

>>127386212 (OP)
>he actually bought omnisphere
https://youtu.be/gTojrRmULEw

>>127406834
thank you

>>127403874
use presets and tweak them and process them

is mixing literally just trial and error for the rest of your life?

>>127408385
Not really

>>127408400
but what if you have a thorough understanding of the toolset available but dont know how to approach a certain mix? what if you want to try a multi-band compressor based on previous successes but this time it doesn't quite work out? so you've gotta go through the various tools to see which one is going to best suit the project at the time.

>>127408426
With experience you'll know what to use for a given mix.

first time using a sample where i actually like how it turned out :]

https://voca.ro/1mVYQlrZCet8

>>127408426
yeah but like it's not like you're having to choose tools blindly if you understand what they are. You arent going to pick a reverb when you want a compressor, you might try different compressors and that's trial and error i guess but so is most of stuff in life idk

https://voca.ro/195i5BGKPVfl

>>127408449
>>127408467
maybe trial and error isn't the most apt description but im thinking: when a mechanic diagnoses an issue with a car engine, they can pinpoint the fault and know what needs to be done, what tools are required and what the finished result will be. do professional producers actually attain this sort of level when it comes to music? this is probably a terrible analogy

>>127408467
>https://voca.ro/195i5BGKPVfl
sounds cool. are you dan worrall?

>>127408486
Yes.

>>127408492
idk who that is but ill check them out thx

>>127408486
i think music is just a problem with many solutions

https://voca.ro/1jDGo4pd4Gk3
Was trying to figure out the strings to this song as a kind of melody study and ended up turning it into a strings vst/production exercise.
Unfortunately I suck.
og song: https://youtu.be/9jL4t8ABGmI

https://voca.ro/1gl8gv5yJCpv i think i'll just stick with preset drums for a while until i can learn it.

https://voca.ro/1lqtt5p8g60o
Trying to mix some kind of shoegaze thing for the first time, this shit is fucking filtering me, how 2 get it raw and loud and pumping but not too much when there's a billion layers from ultra distorted lows to washed out reverb highs
It's just pumpy and quiet right now

Plus I still gotta track vocals and make room for them, gonna be working on figuring this out for awhile

>>127386212 (OP)
Based K120 enjoyer.

>>127389668
What one do you use now?

https://vocaroo.com/1gJVohXUn4C5

is this bass too aggressive?

>>127409095
i liked it anon. I think the strings took too long to come in... but they maybe just sound a bit too vst

>>127409215
bruh, the problem isnt the drums, its how you treat it. You have to use clipping and saturation. Overdrive that kick and give it a good thump. While at it, make the highs ring like they are so desperately yearning to do so. You have the groove, just find the sauce with experimentation.

>>127409291
https://vocaroo.com/1jLx99mswL5Y

Is this what you were looking for? I can tell you my chain if you think so otherwise ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

>>127408460
wavy but feels muffled(?). Idk if you scooped for a vocal eventually, but it feels like it needs it. Either way, its a slapper. I like. I dig. I fuck with. Its like elevator sex music.

>>127410741
Not gonna be on my monitors again until tomorrow but it's got energy on phone speakers
Probably dirtier than it needs to be since it's mastering on top of my poor mastering attempt instead of having a clean base
But yeah let me know what you use, I need to check out more mastering strats

https://vocaroo.com/1ljbhY2VCyX2

>electronic

Still learning to work w vocals. Having a lot of fun but I’ve definitely got a lot to learn.

>>127411733
>soothe2 to dampen snare (4%)
>overdrive waveshaper (23%)
>mid-side eq
>compressor with slow settings
>eq to roll off mids and a lot of top
>mid-side saturator, mostly tape sat on sides 300hz +
>clipper to take off top
>soothe2 to de mud the bass (22%)

Any good resources/tutorials you would recommend for trying to make like Industrial beats/NiN sounding kinda vibes?

>>127409291
https://vocaroo.com/1oNrbC9y4MHQ

>>127412032
Don't make a busy bass line, can be a synth, add distortion. Try to replicate a song you like

ignore the lack of intro if you can
>https://vocaroo.com/13vly7q13mUJ

>>127412032
desu just reading his interviews and about the production of his early albums, and knowing a bit about the tech helped me a lot.
also ditto on remaking his songs.
last i checked years ago the year zero remix thing disappeared and then was brought back somewhere else maybe..?
either way just being able to isolate and hear how much is truly shifting every 4 bars on that one is insane

>>127411767
bit too heavy on the reverb

>>127410265
nah its fine

>>127408460
i like the vibe. kick feels a bit too loud in the mix, and i think you should try to "dusty" your hats because they feel a bit too clean at the moment

>>127410405
>I think the strings took too long to come in
was just minickin the oiginal. yea, even though I made use of expression curves, vibrato and velocity and even bow pressure modulation it sounds bad. I think it's the note starts that ruin it. i don't know how to make that realistic... i know strings have to rebow, include slurs and all that. these are SWAM so you have to do everything from scratch to get a realistic sound compared to samples.

>>127403869
that bad?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1EPMcxw4M4
ONE OF US
ONE OF US

>>127412829
Thanks for the tip. I think you’re right. I’m gonna play w the reverb today but then I’m just going to start a new song desu. Sometimes it’s just best to move on

any good/successful music that you can download the stems of? the Charli XCX vroom vroom ep had the stems available online for example.

>>127415534
GEC GEC GEC

>>127410405
i have no idea what are you talking about by overdrive, clipping or saturation

today i will make bass music and NOT use wavetables

it's going to be so crazy bros. nobody has ever done this before

>>127415727
anything else? not hating but gecs just smash everything into a flat ott sausages with no dynamics so there's not much to learn there

https://youtu.be/sG8M_YPOzTU
unironically the best producer right now... so much to learn from him. everything is so transparent and effective man. (ok he makes a bunch of duds too but his good songs have the best production in the industry)

>>127417796
What's so great about this exactly?
Serious question?

>>127417771
>so there's not much to learn there
even if you dislike that style of mixing that's just objectively false.
also if you listened to any of their stems or put any of their tracks under analysis you'd be surprised how dynamic they are.

>>127417841
your brain is just too small to hear it anon

for one every percussion and drum hit is as effective as occasional ear candy in other music. dude also has a fantastic sense for when to create pockets where percussion drops out or it goes into full drive just a bar or two early and they creates a momentum that takes you into the chorus as opposed to waiting for the chorus so it picks back up. idk, hard to explain how something is "tastefully crafted" without sounding like you're explaining some basic thing because the legitimate interest also has to come from the party you're explaining it to, which often isn't the case to begin with when someone asks you to explain why something is supposedly good

>>127417943
so just normal things that everybody does basically

>>127418045
exactly what the average person would respond and why most producers cannot reach that level, cause they cannot even tell what's different.

My drums fucking ruin everything, on top of not being good with bass and stereo work. I am a fcking disappointment. No, I will NEVA use drum loops. I love you guys tho.

>>127418037
that's kind of good but at the same time harmonically too milquetoast to be repeated the entire time. also imo the brass blares a bit too hard and gets annoying. the string arpeggios sound nice though, if that's SWAM, teach me. the string chords on the other hand use a bit of strange voicing and feel more pad like than organic.

>>127418087
dunning kruger response

these things are extremely obvious to everybody but you

>>127418202
yea that's why most people make bad music instead of just the minority, and that's also why this person does it better than other producers who have the awareness.

>>127418227
lol yes that’s totally the logical reason why.

however, what logically follows from what you just wrote is that YOU with your keen ear possess the talent over everybody else to make amazing music.

>>127418389
it's not a matter of talent. i think what often gets left out during discussions about how to create something great is that you need good taste. arguably, having good taste is more important than any other technical or perceptive skill you could develop while pursuing the arts. the thing is though that subjectively speaking everyone of course thinks their taste is good, because it doesn't really check out for a person's ego that something they enjoy could be anything but good. i think developing an ear for what's tasteful is just as big a skill as some other things, and some people who do not develop this skill kind of become the equivalent of someone who never got past the symbol drawing stage of a 10 year old. so yes I do think that having a keen awareness of these things, which I'm convinced most people do not (and you think everyone does have) gives you the POTENTIAL to create amazing art, music or otherwise.

>>127418529
completely agree ya

>>127418529
Anon you don’t make good music. Nobody is reading all your gay reddit shit. Please kys or just go away and try making your own songs

https://voca.ro/1o0iTw28QyUC
Acid poster of the last few days here, this time with something that's not acid. I would really like to rap on this or find someone else to idk. I'm staying away from home tonight so I don't have most of my gear but I like this beat anyway.

i dont get why my mixdowns sound so different to when im listening to the project in the daw itself/ what could be a possible explanation? everything sounds balanced and cooperating with each other in the daw but then i mixdown and listen back, suddenly the bass is too loud, the reverb is unnatural, the guitars are quiet, the drums are sterile. it doesn't sound like this at all in the project itself.

>>127420343
I've been through that.the solution I think was to just mix ur way through it

>>127420383
nah i dont buy this solution, because it sounds way too different. theres something happening during the mixdown

>>127393309
Why not use a good kick sample or just turn the thing down a lot

>>127420343
are you redlining?

>>127420396
What Daw? What bit rate?

>>127420416
no

>>127420423
cubase, 24

>>127402028
In ableton I just put stuff way over to the right, but I agree that’s untidy

>>127420450
I don't know Cubase at all, but in FL studio theres a setting where when it exports your track it uses HQ processing for your plugins, but during normal editing flows your plugins are operating at like 50% quality.
maybe something similar?

>>127420471
>In ableton I just put stuff way over to the right,
i do this as well and just name the project "playground"

>>127403647
Nobody knows or cares about your music either

>>127405160
Air windows reverbs, like galactic, or galacticvibe

>>127420545
based sharer of magic
will check these out

unpopular opinion: all delays should be run before distortion

>>127420552
I think galactic 2 and 3 are the ones that choke notes which is great when you don’t want a whole wash

>>127420343
Are you mixing down to mono?? Are you keeping the same resolution your project is in? Are you normalising

>>127420834
>Are you mixing down to mono??
no
>Are you keeping the same resolution your project is in?
not sure what you mean. i have a few options when mixing down and i simply mixdown into the stereo out where all busses are ultimately directed. if you mean sample rate and bit depth, these are all aligned with my interface.
>Are you normalising
no, but i normally dont need to because this template ive made has been meticulously gain staged.

>>127420845
Some of your instruments / tracks could be 24/ 48khz and is you’re downsampling them to say 16b /44.1 kHz they may sound different

Remember you can ask ChatGPT anything prod related and it’ll answer with something

>>127420886
>"""AI"""
no thanks

>>127420889
I asked it how much gain reduction for bass compression is typical on a pop song and it gave me a few pages, in detail of the stages you take, it was TMI and unexpected

>>127420889
This guy >>127420343 should ask ChatGPT

https://vocaroo.com/19E2lNdmDLTp

>feel good

>late night

>soul

I know the bass is heavy and it's probably too much reverb but I'm happy w this

>>127420959
yeah i’m sure it was all accurate

>>127420991
i am this guy but i refuse to use """AI"""

Sometimes I like to pretend I am a spy from gg and I'm here to be a mole and deconstruct the society of prod

>>127421742
>”pretend”

>>127421742
prod is an anarcho communist society

I gave up trying to rap on that 10 minute vocarroo and released it. Now I'm trying to decide what approach to take to make music the rest of the night and tomorrow while I'm still here with just limited gear. If anyone has any ideas le.me know

How do I stop smoking weed?

>>127422527
Dig deep and just stop.

>>127421742
/gg/ wouldn't betray us. Would they?

Here is a script that helps you make better drums Logic:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ukthmcvkznk&t=1s

>>127422527
cold turkey is the best method. just stop buying it and dont smoke it anymore. you might feel like shit for a week or two depending on how much you have smoked and for how long, but it wont be hard to maintain sobriety afterwards. it's definitely worth quitting by the way, its not a good habit to have.

>>127421570
Cool.
Why did you end with 2 minutes of silence?

>>127423722
I’m retarded anon, my bad. I trimmed it down. I’m genuinely not sure how that happened. Thanks for listening

>>127422527
You know man I couldn’t quit for the longest time even though I really wanted to. I started taking Prozac and quit the same day and I’m 21 days sober now. I’m not necessarily saying you should do the same but my anxiety was out of control and I self medicated with weed. I’m feeling better than I have in years and quitting/starting Prozac was what caused me to start making music.

The first week or two will be slightly uncomfy with trouble sleeping and dealing with emotions. My appetite took almost two weeks to get to normal too. Overall really not that bad and 100% worth it though.

Not knocking weed at all it’s just time to quit/get some distance sometimes.

>>127424163
What's the name of the character in your gif?

https://voca.ro/1n5re0rROqEH

How's the mix here?

>>127424484
I like it anon. The bass seems too loud to me and the delay is a little wild on some of it but it’s a vibe

i need a partner to make bass music

>>127425278
So do I but I wish it were an entourage and it was irl

>>127425642
same. except the secret minecraft server

that would be fun...

>>127425278
Once BTC hits $1M...
>secret minecraft server
lol

>>127425939
i know for a fact that every clique that's worth talking about has one.
it's where all the serious discussions happen.

Airwindows TapeHack

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n02zrDDtJ7Q

https://voca.ro/1hN3wW1OyoET
please tear to shreads.

>>127426228
ty for reminding me

so much cool shit has come out since i last updated consolidated waow

>>127426228
Channel9 was one I liked

>>127421104
This is certainly something. I don't know what but something

>>127421570
I do like this.
You are right about the bass but you probably eq or round it out. It's not too bad.

>>127421668
Same can be said for you but you were probably trying to.

All my ideas immediately leave me the moment I open the DAW

I've made 60 plus minutes in the past week, some people even liked some of it, and I feel kinda empty about it wishing the music was better.

Found this in a junk shop warehouse and got it for $150. People didn't really know what it was. Akai GX-625 reel to reel tape machine. Never really wanted a tape machine. Knew they were crazy expensive and basically always broken down or needed service. Couldn't pass this one up for $150 though.

lowest sub in my track is D# around 35-40hz, is this audible on consumer headphones? i feel like consumer hifi might add some saturation or something around those frequences so you can hear them but i might be wrong.. i only have monitoring headphones

>>127428352
>is this audible on consumer headphones?
Yes. Even cheap low end headphones go to 30 hz, unless you're going really fucking cheap like koss porta pro's or some no name cheap china shit made out of recycled garbage bags.

I advice most producers to not go lower than 30-35hz with their basses unless they know what they're doing. Most home HI-FI equipment doesnt go much lower than 40hz unless they have a dedicated subwoofer or large floorstanding speakers. Same thing with most blutooth speakers, doesnt go much lower than 40-50hz unless they're one of those bigass JBL ultimate ones or something.

Even most concert PA/line array systems doesnt go much lower than 35hz, sure they can push probably down into the high 20's, but most engineers dont like doing that with equipment that cost as much or more than your house.

The safe area for bass is 35 - 120 hz, thats where most subwoofers and bassy speakers perform best.

>>127426436
this was nice, but
>frog_croaking_in_anons_moms_giant_vagina_sfx.wav
why

>>127424484
transpose the bass down an octave or turn it down some in the mix, it's very loud and boomy

Made some house/basshouse I dont even know what genre of house this is, I dont keep up with that shit anymore. Anyway, never going to get to release this due to the sample, but it I think it has potential. Any feedback appreciated.

https://vocaroo.com/1f3XGmpvdL0x

>>127429624
it sounded cute and playful, i hope.

>>127429871
yeh it as cute, but it caught me off guard. Nothing wrong with the sound itself, but just the way it's utilized, front and center, really loud in the mix. Same with the bird chirp at the end, just really loud.

>>127429920
thanks for the advice, i should put sfx like that in the background?

>>127429966
unless you want to bring attention to it, yes.
If you just want it like a part of the ambiance of the rainforest, then put it further back in the mix. If you want to bring attention to it, leave it as is.

>more fun than anything itt

>and it’s not even close

https://vocaroo.com/1gjfZYf1LIKc

i just slept for like 12 hours and amid the violent dreams i was on the shoegaze project.
maybe that’s a sign

>>127431419
Do it.

>>127398203
>Can't seem to find interviews about the production of the albums in this era either to figure out if they were doing
The wikipedia article for Dirt links to an article with a bunch of information. The wiki for Jar of Flies lists a bunch of equipment and the recording. You're completely useless

It's not just a little EQ and some magic plugin that will make your music sound "old" lmao. Record and mix a bunch to get experience, coming close to sounding anything like the 90s rock records is going to be incredibly hard without thousands of hours of experience getting those sounds and knowing what you're listening for.

https://vocaroo.com/1cSWLumogtKO

>house

thanks for the listen frens

>>127431576
Oooooooh it sounds goooooood
I’m vibing

>>127431576
>>127431637
Man... what was the name of that one YouTube channel that had tons of indie house music set to retro home video clips? I think YouTube took his channel down and people tried to bring it back, and maybe it's been brought back, but I just completely forgot about it.
Pretty sure there was in anon in /prod/ who mentioned that his track got uploaded to that channel at some point.

>>127431576
Dude how the FUCK do you sync up that rap verse so well with your song?

>>127431712
Eelf?

>>127431886
YES! Wow, looks like he's been back since Oct 2020. I've been out of the loop.

>>127431576 here

>>127431637
appreciate u anon

>>127431712
yeah i dig those channels but i feel like they always focus on lo-fi house

>>127431727
Quantized + Stretched + Sidechained (I use Kickstart 2)

blew off head tonight from my cute vietnamese gf to make this so i'm glad to hear from yall. one love

I saw Dillinger escape plan last night now i want to make grindcore music but I'm not talented enough

alcohol vs sleep ? (i slept all day)
hm...,,

https://vocaroo.com/1dZwaIwHPxfk

>>127426436
I'm sure you can do better than FL Studios stock sounds for ambient animal sounds. I do love these fuckers, though. I'm gonna make a small track using nothing but these sounds.

fooling around with presets, wasting time
https://vocaroo.com/1ayQWgKN80gE
>>127433307
unloading clips

>making
if your music is a bunch of loops, presets and samples smashed together you should just be making AI music.
its going to be very sad in the future when AI can make every detail you want in a track and all our production skills will be useless

Niche question but have any of you used a cracked version of FL through Wine on Linux? I know there’s native DAWs on Linux but I feel like if I deleted all my work from FL I’d feel real sad.

>>127433571
>our
>your
>you should
>sad
>AI
>AI
>you want
lmaoing at you, and only you.

>>127433561
oh

why is grindcore so underrated? is it because im just severely depressed and feeling exceptionally misanthropic recently that it sounds more appealing than usual? or am i evolving?

>>127433845
because metal ain’t it right now

people who have been tapped in to rock know bro

>>127433561
>https://vocaroo.com/1ayQWgKN80gE
unsettling how low in the mix the melodic bits are from the synth and how overwhelming the bass is. Is that intentional?

You might find it foolish to essentially troll myself by making shitpost music no one wants to listen to.
https://voca.ro/1mEIlJ4EGwNn
But that aside are the congas too loud? They're rhythmically important but they start to grate on me before it's over.

>>127434041
yeah i just used a soundgoodizer-like comp on the master that wrecks the low end (dirty job, bad habit)

>>127429583
Dan Sorell has a video explaining mixing bass and kick and he shared an interesting technique - exclude the fundamental harmonic in your bass when you sound design it. I tried it and as long as you have other harmonics going in it worked terrifically. Your ear perceives the bass as very low and fills in the gap of that low fundamental without it existing, like an optical illusion in sound. Then in your mix there are less problems to worry about.

On another note I listened to Sun is Shining bob marley. - dub music which is renowned for good bass- and it took me a while to realise they didn’t use a kick drum - still sounds great

>>127432279
Can you post in the shill thread? Would love a Bandcamp or youtube or something

Imbred fucking sucks dick. I’ve had to look at that dudes ads for years and accidentally clicked one day so I checked it out. Awful

>>127434870
make a thousands tracks first then talk
im a retard

>>127434787
yeah, stop doing that it sounds fucking awful

>>127434890
You can make 10,000 tracks and your voice will still sound like balls slapping on asshole. Your ads are the only reason I feel the need to talk shit. Fuck you

>>127434041
>https://voca.ro/1mEIlJ4EGwNn
This is pretty comfy and reminds me of PS1 era stuff and visual novel music from that kind of time, especially with the sound choices. You using soundfonts from something? For the congas maybe lower them just a little. They'd probably benefit from a bit of reverb and playing with velocity a little as well (if that's an option). Could find some parts to give them a small break or mix up the rhythm here and there as well so it's not so monotonous, they don't need to be playing the whole time. I would also get rid of that drum opening, it's not very good and nearly made me close the vocaroo window immediately.

>>127434615
>https://voca.ro/1mEIlJ4EGwNn
This is pretty comfy and reminds me of PS1 era stuff and visual novel music from that kind of time, especially with the sound choices. You using soundfonts from something? For the congas maybe lower them just a little. They'd probably benefit from a bit of reverb and playing with velocity a little as well (if that's an option). Could find some parts to give them a small break or mix up the rhythm here and there as well so it's not so monotonous, they don't need to be playing the whole time. I would also get rid of that drum opening, it's not very good and nearly made me close the vocaroo window immediately.

>>127386212 (OP)
tranny setup in the picture

>>127433571
it isn't sad currently because blacks and women can make music so i don't know why it would be sad because a computer can make music. none of them have any thought.

>>127435075
>You using soundfonts from something?
A lot of the sounds are coming out of the korg wavestation, and the drum sounds were ripped out of a vangelis track from the 80s so it's all rompler sounds except the saxophone which is actually coming out of vital.
Thanks, good to know it isn't just me, I'll do something with them to keep them congas grooving but I'll come up with a different rhythm for the B section or something. After a while I feel like I completely lose the ability to hear the track like someone else would.
>drum opening
Lmao. It was the cheesiest thing I could think of, but if it's that bad I can live without it.

Also my method for comf is to only use a single reverb (well usually a convolver) on a mixer channel and route everything through it, although usually the drums usually get a mix of the verb channel and the dry drums because there is such a thing as too much drum reverb. Which is probably not like a big secret justu or anything but I've had people comment on it before so I thought I'd share in case you were interested in trying it.

>>127435382
Ah nice, I have the Wavestation VST as well. I got kind of frustrated with it as it doesn't save your own sounds very easily, but maybe I just need to read up a bit and try again. The sax coming from Vital is surprising, cause I would have assumed it was just another wavestation preset. Nice job if you dialled that one in yourself, fits well with the other sounds.
>Also my method for comf....etc.
I always tend to give individual stuff their own reverb, but that's cause I'm pretty basic bitch beginner, so haven't experimented much with buses and other options, but it sounds quite nice on your track so maybe I'll give it a go.

>>127435516
>I got kind of frustrated with it as it doesn't save your own sounds very easily,
I can't speak to other DAWs but in FL you can save the current state of any plugin as a preset for that plugin at the FL level by clicking the arrow in the top left. That will let you bypass the wavestation VST's arcane memory system, keep all the original sounds right where they are, and create your own system for sorting them in whatever you OS is instead of the wavestation interface.
It will also enable you to participate in the greatest of past times: unhallowed patcher spaghetti.

~670 TB presets (out of 3k+) put together from various free packs I dug, (+ a less horrendous skin).
https://files.catbox.moe/n3kvba.7z

>>127435717
Thanks for the offer anon but honestly that's way more than I could possibly need I think downloading all that would probably harm me more than help me.

>>127435838
i agree that more options usually do more harm than good. the thing is, i wanted a large stash of presets mainly to use them as layers for the main ones.
the synth is really light on CPU/Ram for a 6xOSC, though you’d rarely need all of them unless you’re doing heavy FM. it also has a thrashy sound to it, especially in the high

>>127435675
oh fuck, I actually have FL as well and I really feel like I should have known this - thank you, anon! Time to make some crazy shit that I'll never use.

when the days start getting shorter
https://voca.ro/1cduPqUnfYkG

>>127434801
>they didn’t use a kick drum
They did: it's a one drop classic rhythm, simultaneous kick and rim shot.

>>127434801
wouldn't the fundamental change based on which note is played, how do you sound design each out separately? or am i applying this to recording real bass where that wouldn't work and you just mean synth

>>127434859
sure anon, just posted it in the shill thread. accompanying pic is me smoking a cig. i'll warn you though, i haven't been producing very long so my shit is kind of all over the place. cheers.

>>127428352
F1 is the lowest note that is generally reproducible across systems, hence Fm's popularity in electronic music. Tuned kicks tend to be between F1 and E2, sometimes up to around 100hz but I wouldn't put a sub that as low as 35-40. Do as the other said, you distort and focus on the first harmonic an octave up and that phantoms in the harmonic below, plus it's able to be heard on worse equipment. Don't try designing subs if you can't reproduce it on your end.

https://voca.ro/1owc2IacB5ZX i dont know how to continue with this, can you guys give me any heads up, anyone?

>>127438690
:00 - :06 cool
:07 - :12 ehh (timing is bad)
:13 - :19 awful, sound isn't suitable and timing is whack

What's the goal here?
The beginning makes me think it's desert level music for a video game.

>>127438955
i have no idea where to go with these patterns so i just listed them as is. i cant correlate any of them too or i dont know how to put them through the music. i am struggling with also continuing this.

>>127409095
https://voca.ro/1g1XHcfgubD2
updated marginally better version

>>127433346
ha, i didnt know it was a stock FL sound. I just searched for animal sfx, i have a bunch of samples so I just assumed it was from there.

>>127436529
Now go my son and wave to the extreme!

>>127438064
God damn that was you again UMOS? What a banger. This is the same anon who was listening to your shit the other day haha. Not trying to be a dick order but man your music is good

Dick rider**

>>127436529
Do you know about putting things in patcher and adding controllers for last tweaked parameter?

>>127439675
:') thanks anon, no problem at all, i just like /prod/ because of the anonymity. always learning here

>>127433307
Shit is dope anon. Get a full length track together from that.

>>127436703
best shit I've heard in /prod/ in a while
only gripe I have is that it gets a bit monotenous after a while, like it needs a new element that comes in or a change in the dynamics of the guitar playing, maybe take everything else out but the guitar and then bring it all back in again (really nice tone btw) A little muddy in the low end, but just a little bit.

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