Thread 127580702

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Previous: >>127524934

https://vocaroo.com/1hBcfkzKULey

i know the drop is only 8 bars so far, i shallst extend tonight

>no subject
rip thread

Extended my Sonic SFX >>127548895 track
https://voca.ro/1bp17Jt1ips6
I tried following some of the advice on here - added a bunch of guitars (I can play, so not having any was a waste I guess), a B section and some chords circling back to the chorus/drop. I doubled the chorus at the end but it might be too much of the same now - perhaps I can introduce some variations for the 2nd chorus before the halftime

>>127581071
How do I get biceps like his?

is it normal practice to sidechain a guitar bus to the whole drum bus or just the kick?

>>127580702 (OP)
Analog Love (2020)
https://youtu.be/tSoqwveuyg0?si=YM_gaE09IbTCnH10

>>127581685
Just the kick is the common way to do it
With the whole drums your guitar is going to be muted 90% of the time. What sound would you want to achieve?

>>127581720
im just doing very light sidechain to help the drums break through the mix a bit more. guitars are still very loud and i can barely notice the compression happening.

>>127581730
In that case I would just lower the guitars or play with EQ. Sidechaining the whole thing might give an irregular pumping effect on your guitars which I don't think would sound very good. You might not be noticing it if the gain is low but yeah I wouldn't recommend it.

>>127581852
oky doky ill keep playing around

>think i have a decent mix
>mixdown
>listen through regular headphones
>extreme earrape in the higher frequencies
i gotta start using reference tracks more

https://youtu.be/5cbCYwgQkTE
Do you guys think she regrets doing this now that so many people in the arts hate everything related to AI, and that AI voices are fully associated with low quality slop (even outside of TTS)?

Any tips/advice to how to get a 'Lead' sounding like this for a drop?
I've been trying to figure out these types of drops.

>So you have like a bass in the basement/subs
>Maybe some distorted white noise of the mix in the bottom as well
>And then a lead that follows a melody/is a melody.

The synth lead type sound is what I am looking for. I haven't been happy with my noise selection.Probably a me issue as I feel like I have enough sounds. Just not the right ones.. I don't know how you'd build the wave form or what you'd call it.
>Automated gates? I have a few guesses. too tired to test everything tonight but hoping someone knows a good play to look to.

It's probably simple but I don't know where to start.
What I am trying to accomplish/practice:
https://vocaroo.com/18LI6s1OptqG


https://youtu.be/JY76tO4qe8Q?si=nKMaH3GZ7b-LIqps&t=172
Like those punchy keys/synth for the chords that goes along with the kick.

>>127581656
For Kangaroomaxxing you need to
>spam overhead cable tricep extensions, lateral raises, facepulls, and shrugs
>avoid bending/closing your elbow against any type of resistance
>grip the handles as lightly as you can without losing your grip
>induce palumboism by abusing HGH
>starve yourself and use diuretics to lose all possible fat and water
>minoxidil and microneedling once a week on your entire body
>spray tan
Congratulations. You are now ready to terrorize Australian suburbs and fuck sheilas left and right like a sick cunt.

If im getting couple of sales on bandcamp does that mean my music is good?

>>127582334
how much are they paying?

>>127582353
Not much, minimum available figure

>>127581628
Way too busy now. The guitar has introduced loads of clashing and nasty frequencies that weren't there before. Mix in general sounds a lot worse. Hope you saved the other version as a seperate project.

>>127581071
That top loop is foul. Sounds like someone making wet mouth noises and smacking their lips over and over.

>Made first bar of melody over B-flat tonic
>Accidentally made the worst sounding thing I've ever heard
Maybe I should study melodies first

>>127581992
holly herndon has always been a forward thinker, so probably not on a moral regret but a “damn this is a bad look…” regret.

the take “ai has valid creative uses but only when…” isn’t a hot take when we’re talking about just the art in a vacuum. but gets a negative reaction *now* because it became immediately obvious to everybody even outside creative fields how naive it is to talk about it theoretically like that when the effects of its use have become so apparent so immediately- we can’t take the good without the “oh fuck we are not prepared as a society for this at all” stuff.

i have a soundcloud follower now it is over i am not a part of the /prod/ underground anymore.
it is lonely at the top

>>127582044
add some glide and make it dirty idk. play around with the resonance, cutoff, add a phaser, whatever.

>>127582971
there are just some notes like b6 which are very painful because they sit around 2k-3k that is where the pain occurs.
has more to do with the notes and where they sit in the spectrum and not so much with the notes you play or in what order.

i feel beginners always overlook this. like you can not make it sound good but play objectively awful notes.
b6 + 25 cents is around 3k. 3k is very offensive, sounds very piercing.
when i want to boost something 1k is usually the best area to get more sweetness and everything above tends to become too irritating.
the ear canal just amplifies certain frequencies that is why you lose hearing around those the easiest.
so it is basically louder but just in your ears not on the graph.

>>127582334
Yeah, I'd say it's indicative. Keep up the good work.

>>127582879
Oh no
Alright then I'll work on smoothing it out
I wouldn't roll it back though, as I'd lose the progress I've made on the composition

i wish playing and recording physical instruments wasn't so fucking annoying to do because resampling and morphing it all into something unrecognizable is super fun =(

also guitars need presets for tunings and every vst piano should cater specifically to my needs by not making me dive into the deep dark recesses of kontakt hell and detune every sample group manually

>>127582971
Haven't you heard, there is no such thing as a wrong note? Music is about the journey... where you came from and where you're going...
https://vocaroo.com/19CBkTvHDlFL

reminder

>>127584695
Post it to >>>/g/dmp

>>127583163
All true. Tbh all things considered, I would really like it to disappear, and let the world go back to pre-AI times for many reasons, but the chances of that happening are virtually zero. It's here and we can only accept it and deal with it, so IMO it's in our best interest to at least, while we endure its negatives, take advantage of its positives.
It's kinda like PEDs in cycling. It would be better if they didn't exist, but since they do and everybody else is using them, you'd essentially be sabotaging yourself not to use them too (as long as you don't get caught lol).
I get the people who don't want to participate in something they see as harmful, and I guess being so vocally anti-AI is contributing to companies and people choosing to hire humans instead of AI (for good optics or fear of backlash), but that's at best a short term win.

>>127584919
sure

>>127583759
thanks, i have couple of dozen free downloads already of my songs/ albums but only few actual purchases. maybe i should consider setting the minimum price, although it doesnt matter now that i still dont get much plays
thanks for the encouragement. i will keep producing and bettering my songwriting and production skills

>>127585791
Kek he jumped on it immediately.

https://vocaroo.com/1bBlGSOubG12

Trying out some kinda lofi shit. Let me know what needs fuckin with

>>127585972
adjust the voices of your piano chords or just shift it down an octave so they're not clashing with the synth and vocal

>>127585890
kek

>>127586025
Okay thanks anon. I’ll try that

>>127581685
why are you sidechaining in the first place? mix it better. unless your kick is a dance music kick you don't need to sc the audio out of the way.

>>127581730
no that is wrong. move the drums in placement. you are mixing it wrong

>>127586733
nta but sidechaining in that manner is super common in pop

>>127586733
If you want modern sounding drums you gotta sidechain bro, almost no matter the genre

i never sidechain i edit the volume manually

>residual guitar-player-itis making you overplay the melody in every take
frick

>>127585972
If you don't want to consider layering the kick, lower the volume a cunt hair and cut low frequencies and cut some of the highs from it for a matching low fi sound. Would give careful attention to it.

A drop is anticipated but I wouldn't do a drop either. Maybe a reversed symbol before i'd screw it up and put a club shaker sample and reverbed snap or something. dont' do that.

I don't agree with the another anon. Just worry about arrangement composition. I guess you are trying to have it sound good through phone speakers.

whose fucking retard idea was it to make the piano roll vertical instead of horizontal, and why did every other retard just to along with it? I never once faced my piano from the side and was like "wow man this is so much better". you sit in front of the fucker, not at a 90° angle.

>>127587812
Have no idea. Sometimes it's useful, sometimes it's not.

HAKKAR! Hear mi call! Bless me wit de mojo

>>127587812
Music notation is read left-to-right, not up-and-down.

I like mixing and playing with effects more than actually composing.

>>127588248
fair'n'fine

i hate recording guitar it always sounds so Shit

>>127587812
bro just like play the piano if it's more effort to use the piano roll

gimmicky idea: two producers on opposite stages, audience in the middle, both delivering one unified set but each handling different parts

>>127588248
opposite for me i hate producing i just want to make some cute compositions and beats

>>127588400
Let's be friends

https://vocaroo.com/1hWwPLnipyvn

i like the beat but no idea where to take it after this

>>127588412
sure thing, this is something i made see if flights your fancy

>>127588413

>>127587557
https://voca.ro/1aYrHtGTVC2h

Let me know what you think. I just saw your suggestions and I’m going to fuck w it more tonight/tomorrow

>>127588475
>https://voca.ro/1aYrHtGTVC2h
that transition in the middle is cool, add some mf bass my homie track is gaggin for it

>>127588506
All right like 808 shit or what are you thinking my man? I’m pretty new to prodoooooocing. It’s got a baseline should I just turn that up?? Thanks for listening

>>127588538
I only really noticed it at the end. Grab a bass and start poppin it senpai

>>127588213
music notation is actually legible though, unlike dogshit vertical piano rolls. maybe if the Ableton piano roll wasn't this dog shit low contrast grey on grey it would be almost usable.

https://youtu.be/ygCOLpZhWyg
anyone have an idea how to make this vocal effect? it's like a vocoder, except not shit sounding. i'm also wondering how you get the noise to interact with the audio signal like this. it's not just a white boise layer in the background, it actually interacts with the audio and they become a combined sound.

>>127588617
bro is NEW new

>>127588635
>it's not just a white noise layer in the background, it actually interacts with the audio and they become a combined sound.

That's exactly what vocoders do, they modulate a sound source using another sound source, maybe you've just heard versions that sound shit to you but the effect you want can be done with a vocoder

>>127584559
I read somewhere that someone's comp professor said "think horizontally, not vertically" when it comes to making music and I think your little ditty helped me get that. Thanks anon
I definitely get caught up in perfection, but I've found with other things just approaching it like a sandbox helps make it fun first and then some type of "thing" next. I want to make some sort of theme for an imaginary game but beyond that the goal shall be fun. Reminds me of college marching band, although less sweaty

>>127588593
Bassed

>>127588635
>>127588790
it’s a parallel bitcrusher you doofuses. then distort or otherwise upwardly compress

>>127589296
chimpy

>>127580702 (OP)
>can't sing worth shit
>be me
>have pretty good ideas
>can play guitar relatively well
>just jammin in ableton having a good time
>already wrote entire song in key i cant sing
fug lads. what do? I like my little island-esque jig I got going
>https://voca.ro/174rLNNuAwtT

>>127590066
Get a fuckin singer or maybe just kill yourself I guess

>>127588593
Did I overdo it with the bass now kek. Shits hard

>>127590126
that's not very kind

>>127590250
Sorry anon I'm just pissed off at antis attacking me for my writing so I'm trying to do music instead

>>127590303
That's alright, anon. No worries. I feel you there. Haters gonna hate.

>>127590066
I don't think it's bad. Your voice is fine.
>what do you do
Practice singing more
>Find a singer/ fiverr.

I don't know about ethics but you could always... if it so important. e.g.
https://vocaroo.com/14NTNeBIzWVk

>>127590480
Damn if only I could sing that well even if that is shitty AI. But that would be nice to get ideas and melodies down on paper. What did you do to make this?

>>127590066
Bro I don't think your vocals are bad. I was expecting much worse. I think it sounds cooler than the AI singer. Reminded me of les claypool. I think you just need some practice and maybe you can hide behind some effects (like recent les claypool lmao)

>>127590603
It's SUNO AI
You can upload your songs and get the isolated stems.

It'll changes the instrumental but clearly you can just get the vocal stem if you sing the melody well enough.

>>127590192
You had me thinking you knew what you were doing.

>>127590678
Based. I will have to experiment with this lol.

>>127590693
It would help if I posted the fucking song. I’m a retard anon my bad

https://voca.ro/1lK4b9u9m90s

so im regularly playing in drop c for my shoegaze/doom stuff but the bass guitars dont quite have the scale or sound i want for drop c. any bass enthusiasts able to recommend me some types of bass? im thinking a warwick or ibanez of some kind, probably active pickups.

>>127589086
but there's still a vocoder right? but no matter what I do, the vocoder always has this hollow sound like it's playing from a cheap battery powered bathroom radio

>>127590804
I like it, the track has some more low end now. Still quite low on the low end, but personally i love bass so im always biased

>>127588413
Nobody r8 my beat? Screw u guise

i think my mixing skills are coming along. ive finally made some progress. i just wanted to thank the anon in this general the other day who told me simply my drums were taking up too much headroom where the guitars could be sitting. it has been the number one factor in fixing my tracks.

>>127593030
no, there’s no vocoder. there’s auto tune.

>>127589296
Cool sound. Did you make this in a daw or are those actual guitars? You can’t just repeat the same shit over and over for a song kek

>>127590804
>https://voca.ro/1lK4b9u9m90s
That's totally different from the initial post. You don't need any more help. You know the rest is just icing on the cake. Good job.

>listen to newest kream song
>it has one of the most basic splice latin tech vocals

How is this real

>>127594220
they look like your basic edmbro
I also dislike the "drone filmed landscape mix set" trend, comes off as inorganic(irony)

whats the secret to a filth reese bass that not only sounds deep and fat, but can also be felt?

>>127594154
Wow dude thanks a lot. I’ve only been producing for a few weeks I really appreciate it.

Mixed my one of my mates live shows he did, just a fun wee project... Good Lord did the main vocal have bleed...

>>127594537
>felt
either layer a clean sub or do stupid multiband compression like the cool kids (me).
also another case for bouncing to audio- you control exactly what's playing, how it's going to phase and wobble and so on.

good morning m- wait who tf is that...

https://vocaroo.com/1bseRvjTJ2BN

>>127594745
great tip thank you anon

I should've started beat boxing my drums and percussion and ear candy way earlier
>beat box the rhythm and elements
>now you just have to line up your samples with the transients, then delete or mute the beat box
>profit

>>127595148
use the beatbox coward

https://youtu.be/NvsvBL7b8Dg?si=V3Om-LDt2obhfDmi
Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck

>>127595263
2hollis unbirthing ritual at the blaccent cafe

>>127595263
not quite on the level of heaven suspended but still crazy good. i just wish those two were less gooner core. but I suppose if dudes are allowed to rape about fucking bitches and getting their dick sucked, then women are allowed to sing about squirting

>>127595263
Sterile post-african repetitions

>>127595288
Good name for an indie band

>>127595408
How about neither

>>127595415
yea would be ideal

>>127594154
>>127593764
https://voca.ro/18Zh1WsHh0fO

Made a slowed down bassier version. Sounds dreamy

>>127595263
Sounds like shit desu. Did this need to be 10 minutes long…?

>>127595046
Yesterday I saw a bird flying around in my kitchen and thought “how tf did a bat get in here?” and as I approached to let it out I realized it was a GOD DAMN BAT. Fuckin nightmare.


The drums sound off in this. Glad to see you in this thread tranny-kun

>>127595536
you were in the same room with a bat, that means you prob have rabies now

>>127595570
I’m vaccinated fucko

>>127595521
The sound design elements taken individually are mostly simple enough at their core but in terms of refinement, range, mixing, and the micro-level arrangements lending themselves to an "organic" feel, this remix/Sweat/Forever/Heav3n Suspended (basically Sophie's 'late' period in the year or so leading up to her death) is some of the most meticulous and bouncing electronic production of the past 6 years, I can understand the aesthetic not being to peoples' personal tastes but I think people playing down her skill level just don't have an ear for fine detail frankly

>>127581992
It was acceptable in the 80s

>>127595577
not how it works

>>127595611
it's funny because she abandoned the monomachine for her best work but somehow that thing is seen as her defining instrument. lots of analog rytm on heaven suspended and this one though. pretty much every single traditional drum sound of which there are much more on those projects

>>127595536
th- thanks dad...

>>127595636
It was acceptable at the time

>>127595659
What did she use the Monomachine for?
To my understanding it was mostly a workflow tool for getting ideas down, and the actual production was pretty much all in the box.
The in the studio interview shows her using Serum, and the Tzef Montana article mentions her being "Obsessed with her laptop" and working 17-hour stretches (not sure how trustworthy this is).
Are there sources showing what she actually did on the Monomachine?

>>127595641
Explain

>>127592507
Do D instead

>>127595769
her early stuff like "nothing more to say" was 100% monomachine.
on product, only the squelches, bubbles etc. were monomachine. basically anything that had fast alterations of different sounds because of how the monomachine's p locks and arpeggiator interacted with each other. vroom vroom ep was probably the last thing that had a lot of monomachine on it. i know because I have a monomachine and I recognise the kick and snap samples from the drum machine inside the mono (Sophie said all her stuff was synthesized but the monomachine did come with some 12 bit drum samples she used.)
other than that, as you said, it was a sketching tool. oil of and everything that came after had no monomachine on them whatsoever. on those it was Ableton session view + Ableton Push set up in a way to work similar to the mono machine workflow, sequencer style. Her main synths were Serum and Errorsmith Razor

>>127595860
Thank you.
Where does this information come from?

>>127595917
like 100 different sources I compiled over the years but especially https://artsandculture.google.com/story/2wWx4L63W07OIQ

how do i get a waveform like the bottom one. what do i need to combine with a sine wave

is there a way in Ableton to live midi overdub parameter changes and not just notes? i thought I could just enable midi overdub, press record and then move the knobs around while the midi I previously recorded played, but after i end the recording it turns out none of those parameter changes were recorded.

>>127595964
sawtooth?

>>127594083
Yeah I record all guitars and bass. It's an outro and a closing of an LP, at the moment it's the only part that has blastbeats, need to make adjustments elsewhere

>>127595964
I think that's ring mod/amp mod. i mean bottom one looks like it'd be higher frequency than top one if that were the case, but off the top of my head that'd be my guess, sine wave RM'd/AM'd by a saw wave. many mainstream synths have ring mod, I know serum does, image-line sytrus, probably vital too.

either way hard to tell based on scribble drawing vs actual waveforms or sound examples

Something to bump tighten up the frequency based on the number of cycles you want per the original sin wave; ex sin(A*x) -- where A=3 or 4 or so.
Then multiply all that by a sawtooth wave to get that taper.
A year or so ago I watched a video of some dude writing a basic sound generator in C++ and he had a really good example that seems like it would be relevant here; he even shared a website that plots your equations to make it easy to visual.
Wish I could that video for you, but my bookmarks are an absolute mess.

>>127597237
Holy shit... just reread my post here. The brain damage. Hopefully this isn't an early sign of dementia or something.

>>127596200
almost. i had to multiply sine by saw and then subtracted the saw from that, now it's that shape

putting reverb and amp on all my subs
i think i might be getting sick :(
(you guys have no idea this is going to be so insane as i spend the last of my energy)

Why are there suddenly so many remixes of songs from the Interstellar soundtrack coming out?

>>127597946
>your algorithm
jk. maybe something to do with the preview for christopher nolans latest film getting the big preview slot before of the new Jurassic world (july 2025)

>>127598013
I don't really have an algorithm... I mostly subscribe on YT to some producers who put out videos of their sets or do weekly "radio" shows. So maybe I'm my own algorithm, idk. But over the past couple months, I've heard several remixes from that OST, i think.

>>127599005
hm, well everybody’s got *some* fingerprint unless you take extraordinary precautions, but either way yeah that’s weirdly specific lol

NEW /G/ ALBUM STREAMING NOW
LINK IN PICREL

was is worth it prod? picrel
https://vocaroo.com/12QCI9Fyq7zz

need some perspective, wrapping up this week.

>>127599966
before opening i was literally telling myself "i swear to god if I hear a fucking amen break after seeing those stats" and sure enough...

>dd/m/yy
not even dd/mm/yy
i ain't clickin that shit

>>127582044
Still trying.
>>127583727
Thank you. Yeah, I went through the basics again and figured it how to get that punch.

Anyone:
What I am trying to recreate for practice.
Original: https://vocaroo.com/18LI6s1OptqG

I've figured how to make the synth. Mostly. Kinda. Sorta.
>mixing could be a lot better but one step at a time
Recreation: https://vocaroo.com/11ewp1qZVnSp

Does anyone have a way to figure out melody or the notes from a sample?
>I am using Reaper
>I am still trying to figure out the main synth line. Chords are G D Em C.

>Also I think the stutter effect on the original might just be like 8th/16th notes on another layer but if anyone has stutter advice. I'll try it.
>I know FL Studio has a few Gate plugins e.g. Gross beat iirc
Any recommendations for Reaper?

>>127590066
>https://voca.ro/13QWa59nm8ni
Changed the verse key to B which helped and added a sick slow section bridge thing and a key change at the end. And harmony guitar solo cuz why not. I think I am happy with my arrangement now. Thanks to the anons who helped.

>>127580702 (OP)
Anyone got a link to an insanely barebones
>Guitars go in this frequency, snare goes in this frequency
etc guide? I just want to put really simple demos down but I'm so hopelessly retarded I always end up with one drowned or bad sounding element and I realised I've never actually learned what frequency each instrument roughly should occupy

>>127600208
>Does anyone have a way to figure out melody or the notes from a sample?
You can use your ears if you're not a pleb :p Around the 4 second mark it's G, D, G, A, B, F#, E, G. For the second ending it's just G, F#, G

https://vocaroo.com/1fTkMOrRmrPf

thoughts on this dnb chorus? does the bass actually hit right?

>>127600630
Yes.

>>127600001
>>127599966
Lol it's still sounds good.

Some drunken raw stuff...also my first attempts to record and mix shit for myself
https://voca.ro/1n6JTrjnZQlt
https://voca.ro/1azohuCWkJIJ
https://voca.ro/18aTGvs9dsdz
https://voca.ro/1jcBAcMqkZOM

>>127582334
How do you get yourself known? I've done a couple of songs, even posted on the soundcloud shill thing but I've never had anything

>>127600554
I'll try it.
Yeah by ear seems to be the best way.

https://vocaroo.com/1jJETB1xkhqP

>house

thanks for listening frens

>>127582334
I have made nine dollars off bandcamp and my shit sounds pretty amateur. Getting sales is a good sign that you’re no longer a beginner at music production, but it doesn’t mean much more than some people liked your music enough to buy it.

>>127601929
The bassline in your house track need more groove if you want people to dance to it, everything else in your song seems fine but the rhythm in the drums and bass feel too static to make me want to dance.

>>127601356
There are some interesting ideas in those demos, you should keep making more.

>>127601929
>https://vocaroo.com/1jJETB1xkhqP
boost the vox at 1:30 ish.

Suggest looking at the level of your highs in the hats. Don't cut them, at least not all but lower them just a bit. Find a way to bring out the natural ambiance to make it more full without squashing.

https://voca.ro/1jVikhLCo7mg a reggaeton tune
https://voca.ro/1i0vehO060Ew a reggaeton/shatta tune

Trying to step out of my usual music
Any pointers?

>>127601382
theres bandcamp discover feature where your new release shows up on the list for certain genres and through that people check it out. On soundcloud there are track stations, related tracks and other algorithms but that one depends on whether algorithm picks it up, it looks usually for something catchy and well produced. Or maybe it picks it up when sc detects that people listen to your track more than the usual and they like/repost/ comment on it
so you just have to get better and keep posting your stuff

>>127602874
> but it doesn’t mean much more than some people liked your music enough to buy it.
that's my goal anyway so it means a lot. i mean that people like my music so much they are willing to pay for it

>>127601356
That's freakin great. good job

>>127595784
nah

>>127588413
It's good just how it is. Just master it for loudness.

anyone got some hard science in relation to music production to share?

let us spread the word of the shameless plugin shills of youtube in this thread. these people prey on the innocent and the ignorant to make a quick buck. capitalism has infected their minds and have taken the music production hobby to exploitative grounds.

raytown shills the most needless plugins on earth

>>127604074
Everyone here pirates.
It's essentially all freeware lol

Lets talk about something else ha ha

https://www.ableton.com/en/release-notes/live-12-beta/

Ableton 12.3 is in beta

>>127604047
only useless information. conductors have special brains (superhuman brains)
chart songs are brighter, more resolved and happier than non chart songs.
musicians are 3x more likely to suffer from mental illness, most likely depression.

i watched something by a music professor and he said that there are hit chord songs that are usually the same, just stepwise motion, lots of common tones.

>>127604266
>musicians are 3x more likely to suffer from mental illness, most likely depression.
Is it being a musician that causes mental illness or the opposite?
Reading these threads I really can't tell desu.

>>127604257
https://youtu.be/pWxHHT7CAqk

>>127604257
>>127604314
quite a lot for a minor update. not bad. i don't use splice but some people are gonna be happy about that.

>>127601356
>https://voca.ro/1azohuCWkJIJ
>In the jungle, the migh...
Cannot unhear

Otherwise, I find the chord progressions a bit simplistic and unsurprising, you could work on that. There's something out of tune in the last one.

>>127604301
its both but people with mental health issues tend to gravitate towards creative hobbies as a means of expression as they feel regular communication doesn't quite express enough what they feel

https://vocaroo.com/159zue142i3g
here's a WIP track
i'd classify it as ambient track though i tried to make it more interesting and engaging than some usual ambient track
the lead is in form of a string chord progression. theres also other soundscape stuff and some bell arpeggio melody
any input is welcome

guys pls respond >>127596193 I'm gonna cry

>>127604861
It's nice, but even for ambient music you could do with some kind of melody, even if the melody is kept simple. Without a melody, it becomes muzak-tier.

>>127604979
yeah, my favourite ambient is when there's a melody but its also fine when there's enough interesting soundscape-y elements. i planned anyway to work on this track a bit more
though there already is bell melody in the 2nd part of the track

>>127605088
>though there already is bell melody in the 2nd part of the track
That isn't a melody

>>127605100
what is it then, arpeggio?

>>127604932
i am delegating this question to ai.

>>127605104
more of an ostinato

>>127580702 (OP)
https://voca.ro/1h6slfEImkCS

>>127596193
i don't know ableton. sorry.

>>127600001
Oh stfu faggot

>>127605441
The arp sucks. I think you did that deliberately.

>>127605441
nice i just dont like the hihats too sharp.

No reggaetonis here? :(
>>127603006

>>127605562
Why does it suck

>>127604161
I've been pirating my whole life, but usually not executables aside from a game every once in a blue moon. I've always figured it's safe to avoid them as much as possible, as I can't really get malware from just playing a movie file. How can I be safe downloading plugins??

>>127606597
Use trusted websites.
I like audioz.download, rutracker.org (i always check the comments), and if I can't find it on the previous two, I go to audionews.org, which probably has it but will affect your ratio.

>>127592507
>im thinking a warwick or ibanez of some kind, probably active pickups.
This has nothing to do with the tuning.
I have an active 5 string Soundgear but I'd never get another active or 5 string again. The new mixed scale 5s play and tune a lot better though nowadays. Warwicks are some of the worst feeling basses I've ever played aside from Rickenbackers.

>>127604257
>Live Suite now features built-in stem separation that runs locally. A song can be separated into four stems: Vocals, Drums, Bass, and Other. Other includes all parts of the song that are not recognized as vocals, drums, or bass.
FL has had this for years at this point, needing Suite is more insulting.

And the channel state A/B is more convenient in FL as well, another years old feature. Still impressed by how stagnant Live has been.

>>127607067
You have to understand, they're running on a shoestring budget.
They can't afford that many developers when so much of the budget is getting eaten up by the rage ritual retreats and the mandatory fellatio workshops. You have to understand.

>>127606597
>How can I be safe downloading plugins??
You can never fully be safe and have to accept the risk. There's plenty you can do to mitigate it, mostly doing as anon said here >>127606640 and if you are really unsure, go the extra mile and run through stuff like VirusTotal. If it's too big for that, then you could always test within VM's and such before installing on your machine. Make sure you back up your shit regularly as well just in case the worst happens, but for the most part you can rely on the trusted sources + comments.

>>127580702 (OP)
>64 steps
Why can't i just do 256? i demand 512 sterps!
https://vocaroo.com/1fsk6bhJyxoL
How's the mix?

>>127604301
Neurotics trend towards the arts as an outlet for their internal turmoil. It doesn't have to be music.

A Q for guitarists using modellers, specifically the quad cortex. I'm happy with the sound and feel of it running 4CM through a tube combo amp, but also slightly disappointed as my speakers color all the models and captures over as same ish sounding (1x12 V30). Would FRFRs (say the Laney one) loaded with IRs or the cab emulation come close to the feel of the sound and feel of the real thing? /gg/ is ass TIA

>>127606597
>Besides having experience torrenting/common sense
I just run them through Totalvirus to check.
Saves a lot of money.

>>127608947
That's not necessarily going to reveal modern malware. They're pretty sophisticated nowadays and in many cases they're not going to show up until you actually install/run them.
But music production programs, especially VSTs, are an unusual vector, so you're generally pretty safe regardless.

>>127609059
True. I do know it's gambling but it makes me feel better haha

>>127603281
Thanks, but i would really like to make it longer somehow

>>127606597
There's no reason to pirate plugins as an adult. You probably don't need them at all and if yo're an adult, buy them. Way more pain than it's worth, constantly see the roaches in here fiending over "safe" links and then they whine about time bombs

>>127610229
>installs ilok
pathetic

in reality it goes:
>there is no reason to buy software. vsts are inherently flawed reconstructions of their analog counterparts and will always just emulate and never replicate the "real" analog sound.
it is a different thing, still capabable but with compression it gets more obvious that a 3k compressor sounds a little bit better than a 30$ vst.

>>127606597
I've been using r2r cracks since like 2018 and I produce on a pc that's connected to the internet where I also do personal things like logging into amazon or paypal and I've never once had anything happen.
as long as you get them from trusted sources, you're gonna be fine. worst thing that's gonna happen is that the crack is improper and it's gonna be a mess to clean up when you want to get rid of it, but it's not gonna dox you and sell your kidneys or anything. or the plugin might call home and time bomb, but I don't think anything problematic can come or that really. that said, I stay away from anything VR or no-name teams I've never heard of before. with VR their cracks are often improper and use some registry fuckery to circumvent protection which afaik is difficult to revert, so the altered registry entries are gonna be on your pc forever and might cause problems if you ever want to update the plugin or buy and install a legit version.

>>127610278
I don't buy plugins with ilok or always on DRM

>>127610278
i eventually caved and bought an ilok dongle on sale. fuck ilok cloud.

AC/DC hum, aka Mains hum. Can it be used to add flavor or texture? Heinous, I know. All the advancements in home studio to remove hum and anon wants to put it back. But I feel like there are some definite arguments for it especially in dance music. What do you guys think?

calamity bell slop
god i wish dm dokuro wasnt such a massive faggot, such is life desu
https://vocaroo.com/1jGneVVdDjxw

>>127611065
are you refering to like ground loop buzzing or more like the sound you get when you insert a 1/4 inch into a guitar with the amp on? the latter has been used musically by tim hecker quite a few times

>>127605441
pretty fun i dont like the female vocals though because i am a mysogynist

>>127611124
Precisely. I feel like anons in this sub are so obsessed with sounding clean. Where's the grit? Where's the character?

>>127611154
the only grit these fuckers know about is smashing some drums into a limiter

burial was onto something when he said he used the sounds of rain and vinyl just as a means of masking the shittiness. been listening to biosphere - substrata and that album just wouldn't be the same without all the different kinds of noise in the background

>>127611306
I'm saying man

>>127609942
>https://vocaroo.com/15W5wULKu8lv
cool ambience. needs an arp or some melodic thingamajig to keep me interested though

>>127611306
that's all ear candy, really

>>127611350
you could call it ear candy but I think what it's really comparable to is the concept of setting a toned ground in drawing. basically, before you start drawing, you just rub a graphite stick all over the paper you're gonna be drawing on, and then smudge it into an even, silvery tone using some paper towels or similar, and that kinda makes it so that you start with some basic shading already in place that helps unifying everything else. even if you have to erase some lines, you can simply smudge the tones ground and cover it up, it's very forgiving in that way. and in that same way using these kinds of noises in the background can by itself help glue together a track.

Any of you guys upload your stuff to sc/bc in 32/192k?
Is 32 bit noticeable difference than 16 bit? Same question about 192k sample rate?
I gotta say i hear the difference with sample rate but i have pretty good speakers. Music is more alive and more detailed
Is it worth it for uploading on sites? Im worried the streaming would be slow because such a track has around 100mb size. Also, maybe most people wont listen on quality speakers but on some shitty headphones or even mobile phone speaker

>>127611675
Neither is noticeable, you're crazy

>>127611953
i just saw a video of an acclaimed and professional electronic music producer saying that you "get better results" with 192k
in all honesty, i don't see a point or a reason for insulting my reasoning abilities just based on what i said. i think that says more about you than it does about me. some people just can't grasp that different people experience different things, i guess. i dont think its a stretch that 44.1k samples of audio per second could sound different than 192k audio samples per second, its around 4x the difference

N64 video game conversations be like
https://voca.ro/11ifyuwCtdpD

>>127602874
>you should keep making more.
I do have one other track mostly complete. It kinda sucks but I'll post it anyway.
https://voca.ro/1ejra95QckWN
>>127603113
Thanks anon
>>127604751
>>In the jungle, the migh...
Yeah, yeah, I realized that too, but not until long after I had already tracked everything
>There's something out of tune in the last one.
Did you think it was throughout the entire track? There are a couple spots I'm aware of where it's a little off sounding but if the whole thing sounds fucked I guess I'll have some rerecording to do

>>127613433
h3h3

>>127609942
The audio quality is fine but it feels like it's missing something, even if your goal was making minimal background music I feel like you can add one more element to keep it engaging.

>>127611102
I thought the first 18 seconds were great, and then the rest of the instruments came in and it stopped sounding good. The drums and guitars feel artificial in a way that detracts from the track, and the arrangement/track structure feels random and hard to follow. That piano sounds pretty sick though, I'm going to sample it and not give any credit

>>127613775
I guess only the clean guitar is at fault

About the unsurprisingness, have you learned chord functions? Allows for chord substitution. You keep the spirit but change the color a bit.

Do you have a band or do you do that alone?

>>127586739
if it sounds good it's not wrong

>>127612495
>i just saw a video of an acclaimed and professional electronic music producer saying that you "get better results" with 192k
I don't think you need the whole audio at 192kHz for that. Just oversample and remove everything above target Nyquist for your synths and fxs producing high spectral content (more subject to aliasing).

>>127603062
>and keep posting your stuff
But where?

>>127611102
いいね!
The chuggy guitar is, uh, ちょっと, otherwise, rippin'.

How can I orchestrate this:

https://voca.ro/15NUtJk4JMng

>does it make your pussy wet?

>>127616661
I miss the days when cars had these instead of just Bluetooth and a jack for your phone

>>127616984
cars had MIDI synth racks?

https://voca.ro/13S8VkX2DuDD fuck wanted to do something like inertia creeps. the last chop is forcing me to do a breakcore. what should i do. also trashy guitars are fillers on last part

>>127616857
who are you quoting?

https://vocaroo.com/11HI3WBbQqRE
ambient track in F major. really happy with this one. hopefully its engaging enough for an ambient track
any feedback is welcome

>>127615295
it doesn't sound good. if it did the guy wouldn't be asking for advice

>>127617653
Thanks for posting anon I really like it. I don’t have any real feedback other than I was glad the noise that came in a little over halfway didn’t stick around haha it gave me the heeby jeebies.

Beautiful little track tho

only realised now how good reverbed kicks are.

>>127587812
The influence of sheet music staff notation I guess: lows down, highs up. Though, considering the demographics, a vertical tracker style piano roll could find its niche users. But piano players usually read sheet music.

>>127618780
Thanks mate, glad you like it. I feel like im making progress with my production skills so im really glad you like it cause it makes me happy when people like my music
To me the foley is really pleasant, though i guess i have to watch out that it doesnt last for too long so that it becomes bothersome

https://voca.ro/1ifS9xTzjfMV
rediscovered this Air-esque downtempo beat I made some time ago
it's got double drums and a fake trumpet sampled from Miles Davis

keep/scratch?

>>127619370
its a good start but it really is just a loop at the moment. 4 bars are repeating for the whole track. its a good loop but you really need to figure out some A/B/C parts with different sounds and melodies

>>127619370
nice
needs a groovy bassline to really hold it together
maybe the drums are just a little too dry as well, a touch of added reverb on them might be good

are my hats too loud? vocals too loud? what do I need to fix here?

https://voca.ro/1lMOq5u0lb4j

>>127619925
did you even side chain the bass to the kick?
i would perhaps prefer the classic electronic sounding hats, with more crisp and a bit more in the mid range as opposed to just high range
bass is getting out of hand on my speakers but my speakers are notorious for having bass too loud, so the bass might be fine. i love the variety and the progressions of the bass
sounds like radiohead a bit, in a good way
really good work

>>127619513
Technically 16 bars but I see your point
I want to keep it a chill instrumental jam like https://youtu.be/JX1EfZnJcHE?si=BXWHxDnmHrHZqMlD
But it would indeed benefit from different textures and moods, even with minimal melody
>>127619542
Noted, thanks!

>>127620028
Can you review my song??
https://voca.ro/15d4Gam8JUXc

>>127620149
bass patch is fine but the bassline is a bit overdeveloped. the lead melody mimics the bassline, you want to make some movement there and you get that by having lead melody different from bassline melody. the track is too repetetive, 8/16 bars repeating ad infinitum, you need to ommit/ add some elements here and there, some space, some pauses with silence on some tracks, silence is a powerful tool in a song, even if its just there for a bit. mix up the drums, they are way too repetetive

>>127620265
It’s not that repetitive

>>127620464
mate you asked me for a review
you got it and i wrote what i honestly think

completely re-recorded

https://vocaroo.com/19nh8UMkheG2

>>127619216
I'm a piano player and I read sheet music, and if I could enter notes using a staff, I'd vastly prefer that over the retarded piano roll we got right now. And I'd prefer a horizontal piano roll even more because that's actually how I look at my piano when sitting >in front< of it. idk why people are acting like the staff in sheet music represents the piano in the first place. it does not, otherwise you wouldn't have to read the treble and bass clef differently because the piano's layout is uniform

>>127620745
cool, i have a kawaii too- kawaii es4
got any advice for a relative beginner for learning piano? i rarely play my kawaii, i know basic major and minor scales and chords in a scale, i know how to figure them out though i dont have muscle memory for all of them
i get bored and agitated really quickly while playing piano, got any advice how should i approach my studying so that i stick to it?

>>127619370
>>127619542
https://vocaroo.com/1eHEN9ry5lqc
picked up my bass and started jamming
bit sloppy, I just really liked your beat

>>127620782
do hanon while working through the book series piano adventures (for adults) would be my advice. learning how to read sheet music is gonna make you like 500 times more likely to wanna sit down and play, so do that. i personally do like 20 minutes of sight reading exercises every morning by connecting my midi controller to the complete music reading trainer app on my phone.

lastly and probably the thing nobody would want to hear, get a teacher. before I started taking lessons I kinda falsely assumed that there wasn't really more to playing piano than "hitting the keys at the right time" but in order to develop correct technique, a teacher is indispensable. even if you only take lessons 1 time per week, that's already good enough because the teacher exists to point out flaws in your posture and technique that you basically wouldn't be able to notice by yourself. where I live taking piano lessons once a week for 25 min costs about 40€ a month. also, you're more likely to practise regularly when you have to "present in front of your teacher" once a week.

>>127620850
Ill check it out, thanks
I was actually planning on taking up piano lessons but im broke at the moment but when i find a job i will very probably take up piano lessons. here they are 25e per 1 hour, you probably live in Paris or something like that, thats very very expensive

>>127620882
Nvm i thought it was 40 per lesson.
Here its 80e per month, 1 per week for 1 hour. So its similar price to yours, though 25min lesson sounds too short

>get idea for a new track
>tech-houes into drum and bass

the bpm transition would have do really good if this should work

>>127620898
>though 25min lesson sounds too short
not like it equates to practicing 25 minutes per week. like I said the primary function of lessons is to have your mistakes corrected, and be reminded to be mindful about certain things you might be overlooking. it's actually enough I'd say.

of course the rest of the time you'll be practising on your own preferably every day and preferably at least 30 minutes per day, though I'd recommend at least 1 hour minimum, but you will make progress even at 30 mins.

Having a private tutor who drills you 8 hours a day would lead to incredible gains though simply because without one you just wouldn't practise that much.

https://vocaroo.com/1lHKCmuRArx5
https://vocaroo.com/1f5ivi1QEchp
some unfinished junk

>>127620827
Haha very cool anon, thanks a lot for posting this!
Might record some bass in that style for the 2nd repetition, it does switch up the vibe!

>>127614614
>>127611344
https://vocaroo.com/18Y1Yw9wqMnS
mb this i know it still needs something :(
i want full rave and hypnoticism

>>127617515
>who are you quoting

I’ll take that as a compliment

I didn’t quote anyone other than working with rolled chords and a cheesy Replacements progression (The C ->D), then I wanted it sound like Lubomyr Melnyk going through a cinematic jazz ballad.

Should I add thundering rhythm section, like M83?

>>127580702 (OP)
How hard is it to learn producing for fun? I just want to make some trippy vaporwave stuff for myself as a hobby.

>>127623555
Retard

>>127623678
Just start messing around. Music is just a toy to play around with, just be patient and enjoy yourself.

>>127623555
i can't even imagine what kind of a person is behind these posts
if i had to i'd imagine some some scrawny lanklet snotty american, around 23 years old

>>127623854
You jelly .o.

>>127623889
You're an embarrassment

>>127623889
there is really nothing to be jealous about your rotten brain

Vibrato is the thinking man's modulation effect followed closely by tremelo

>>127623924
>>127623949
I’ll take a fair critique. I think it can use some concision for a dance remix like St. Etienne

How do I start experimenting production methods? Just start parallel processing and sidechaining literally anything i can think of?

>>127624889
Yes

>>127624889
literally just start experimenting you dunce what the fuck

>>127624960
Chill daddy

>>127580702 (OP)
What about this as a spy theme from outer space?

https://voca.ro/1ozVu5KUs7kB

I did it on my iPhone, but I’ll redo it in Ableton if it has potential

>>127624979
>dumb fuck who can't figure out how to "experiment" calling other people a dumb fuck

>>127625119
Post song then talk

https://vocaroo.com/1lrx99ygrUt2 i think i kind of start to enjoy chopping samples. but still i have no idea how to come up with any idea out of this. how do people form ideas on their music? i can come up with "sounds" yet i still cant fucking do it geez.

What's your favorite drum machine?

>>127615245
>have you learned chord functions?
Maybe. I took a couple theory classes when I was in college a couple years ago but I only remember the more basic stuff. I guess you can do things like sixth chords or dominant/diminished chords built on other scale degrees to make things more interesting but I don't remember how to use these things and my old notes are vague.
>Do you have a band or do you do that alone?
The stuff I've posted in here is just myself. I used to play for a couple bands but since I'm a drummer primarily I hadn't written much for other instruments until this year when I started these.

>>127610229
True. Even Ableton Standard has enough stuff in it, but if you feel like you're missing something there's most likely a decent freeware option. Plugin piracy is absolute niggerdom and people with any decent experience with production don't seem to do it.
>>127625331
Like anyone here has experience with multiple (if any) real drum machines to make a comparison. I only had a Drumbrute Impact but except for the kick it sucked so I got rid of it.

I want to analyse synplant 2 patches created with geno patches in the gene modification view and then recreate them in other synths for learning purposes, but the way envelopes and shit work in this synth is not really normal... also I can't tell if the reverb is even real, or if it's some kinda noise trick like on the elektron model cycles

>>127625214
Think if the sounds as melody notes and texture. Think if Depeche Mode “Strange Love”.

Act accordingly

>>127625936
>Depeche Mode “Strange Love
based
>AI
kys

>>127625592
kys

>>127623695
Ritardando

>>127624960
I dont know how

>>127624805
FAX

>>127626030
thats the spirit

SM57 for things other than guitar cab or snare?

>>127626092
ya that's okay i think you may want to cross reference 20 different youtube tutorials from experts to see if that's okay to try or not though

>>127626092
sucks cock for anything quieter than a plane

>>127625331
syncussion but not a drum machine and i have only listened to NO TALKING youtube demonstrations of it but i do that a lot and it sounds cool and drummachines are useless

>>127626113
thanks, it's a rare item and I don't want to break it

>>127626128
lmao

im splitting my drum buss into hpf and lpf. i dont wanna see anyone stop me either

>>127626074
i dont drink

>>127626256
nigga what DO you do lmao

>>127626328
i am sober and dont intend substances probably for the rest of my life. i am not a good person when im under the influence. although i wouldn't say no to LSD or mushrooms, but its been 10 years since my last acid trip

>just discovered desert rock
ive been making desert rock off and on for over 10 years and never knew this name or about the josh homme desert sessions. what the hell is wrong with me

>>127626355
pretty impressive that he just come up with his scale thing when he was that young.

>>127626362
its always the rich kids imbued with innate talent. i wonder why that is. its almost as if the brain develops properly when it has all needs accounted for

>//<

https://vocaroo.com/1Km0wkQGuDG7

>>127626535
>>127626535
>>127626535
>>127626535
NEW

>>127625468
Even though I personally don't like your music very much because it's too simplistic to my taste, I'm very impressed by the fact that you did all that alone. I feel mogged. I don't know whether you should persist alone or find bandmates, but if you just started guitar and bass you have a huge progression margin.

>>127625468
>>127628453
*Also you should take those classes again now that you play melodic instruments. And maybe classes for those if you go alone to expand your musical horizon.